Do a quick search for the name, Donna Ron. A few years ago she had the courage to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 60s. Today it's known as kidnapping and rape, gang rape. I admire her courage and thank her for shedding light on an arrogant and dangerous communist punk.
@Allisoninsky In lue of damoninsky, its getting out of control because of you Communist bastards who saught to destroy everything. To Allisoninsky: Elaborate. You don't have to respond, you could just look at my profile, and it says it all. : )
@j19527 FIrst of all, none of us are communist. Second of all, what evidence is there that we tried to "destroy everything"? It was the U.S. imperialistic actions that destroyed Vietnam and Cambodia, decimated nearly all Central American countries, the Philippines, killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan, and this list goes on and on.
@j19527 you're exactly right! The right-wing has said the word "communist" so many times and have pumped fear into Americans for so long...the U.S. is totally paranoid!
@Allisoninsky Web Search: "Yuri Bezmenov" young Saul Alinsky. It's not my fault that you have failed in a free society. You just want something to bitch at.
You leftists have instituted the "shock doctrine" and promoting "fear mongering." Provoking everything that was and is-reasonable, rational, and sane. You take your guilt-lie about it, and then blame it on us.
There is something very wrong with you in the head. Seriously.
@j19527 Nobody is preaching communism here. Have you even read Shock Doctrine? Our government (w/ Republicans especially, FOX news, Bush Co., McCain = prime examples) is notorious for instilling fear in its citizens. Why is it so hard for people to accept that the U.S. has committed (and still is) horrific acts of violence to ensure its imperialistic stance in the world? All Ayers did was to try to stop the biggest terrorist of anyone, the U.S.! YOUR ignorance fails and hurts society.
@j19527 Democrats are indeed guilty, but they are a lesser of two evils. Obviously, a secure economy is the reason for our historical Imperialist pursuits. It's not just oil, it's bananas, sugar, tin, copper, rubber, etc...so we make sure other countries don't exclude us from their resources by assassinating democratically elected leaders and instilling dictators. Just because professors agree with Marx, doesn't make them communists. You should read some of his works to see for yourself.
@Allisoninsky What makes Marx non-communist? Are other countries that different from us? We do not instill dictators. Even if we did, it would make things worse for our-as you say, "imperialistic pursuits." While this is happening, democrats raise taxes; Republicans are the lesser of the two evils here.
@j19527 Wow, you really don't know anything about our foreign policy. Time for a history lesson; go watch my other video American Imperialism Timeline (both parts). Marx wrote extensively on many subjects, not just communism. Just because he was wrong about communism actually working well, doesn't negate everything that he wrote. We made things worse for other countries, but not ourselves. Taxes are GOOD for society. They help pay for very necessary and important programs that help us.
@kaliediscope1 In light of MLK's B-Day, I encourage you to listen to his speech "Why I am Opposed the War in Vietnam". How many innocent people did our country kill again?
Google the name Donna Ron. She had the courage a few years ago to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 1960s. Today it's called kidnapping and rape.
Do a quick search for the name, Donna Ron. A few years ago she had the courage to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 1960s. Today it's called rape.
Here's a little sugar-coated piece of BS... private life is one thing, public life is quite another. He made you turkey burgers, great! I'm so happy for you...
@smileykermit "Public life is quite another"...indeed. Chicago's citizen of the year is pretty good...how about being an active citizen during the 60's to try to stop our hegemonic government to stop killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Maybe if there were more people like Ayers, then the two unjust wars started by the last Bush administration could have been prevented. We need more active citizens in this country. Maybe not as extreme as him.
@damoninsky I'm almost finished with Fugitive Days he comes across as an arrogant guy with a huge ego and somewhat holier-than-thou... Simple rule: You can't stop violence with violence and expect tranquility..., just like you can't wash blood off your hands with more blood. He may be a fine fellow and a good friend... enjoy his company while you can. Citizen of the Year? Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, which proves that these are empty accolades.... I'm no fan of either war, by the way.
@smileykermit I wouldn't say that violence can never produce peace; WWII ended through violence. However I do agree with you that it should be the last resort (which unfortunately it often never is). I also wouldn't say that Ayers committed "violence" as that vernacular is more associated with the harming of people. I don't think his actions could be seen as black or white; he went to extreme measures to help innocent people and since that time has been an important teacher and father.
@damoninsky Enough of this sugar coating... They didn't want to just end the war, but destroy the country they grew up in. They were a bunch of privileged brats, albeit intelligent and of the times they grew up in. They wanted a total revolution and used Mao, Che etc., as their role models. Let's not forget that they were also kids at the time. But had they succeeded they would have been the intelligentsia of a totalitarian regime just like China or Cuba. Worse than the US had ever been.
@smileykermit Come on, are you serious? "Destroy the country they grew up in"??? You are blindly regurgitating Fox News rhetoric word-for-word, how embarrassing. They were EDUCATED (most people with an education are "privileged") young adults and were trying to destroy the governments decision of slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent people. How could you support such a country? Go watch my other video called American Imperialism TImeline.
@damoninsky All "educated" people don't have the kind of privilege Ayers started out with... I have to wonder if you're serious. Their heroes were Mao, Che, Lenin, etc., they weren't interested in a constitutional government that would replace the dregs that were and are in charge. Because I disagree with his tactics you seem to think I'm blindly regurgitating Fox news and that I am in favor of unjust wars (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc). In your opinion, how were the Weathermen too extreme?
@smileykermit Please show me evidence that Mao was their hero. Che and Lenin I could understand (seeing as they were leading revolutions to help poor people from tyrants). I'm not sure why you think his privileged background is so out of the ordinary? Educated people are better informed about the world, and he knew how cruel his government was, so he was privileged to be in that position, so what? On a scale from 1-10 in terms of activism, the Weathermen were a 5.
@damoninsky Throughout Fugitive Days he cites "waving Mao's Little Red Book around". If they carried it, they read it. Even if ending the war was their prime goal, they favored total revolution. As did Che, as did Lenin. So called "educated people" are not necessarily better informed (you need to think seriously about that) Look up William Pierce - Rice University, Caltech, worked at Los Alamos, and taught Physics. He was also a Nazi. He had a worldview just as cohesive as Ayers & Co.
@smileykermit I definitely did not mean to imply that all educated people know best; but simply that his education was adequate enough to know what our government was up to. Most of this country hasn't a clue about our government's hegemonic actions (thus, NOT well educated). I would support the debate on this country having a revolution; if you watch my American Imperialism Timeline video, it will explain why a revolution may not be such a bad idea.
@damoninsky I watched you Timeline... there's nothing new there, typical fodder that's been detailed time and again. I would never defend any of their actions.... So we don't disagree. But so what? You'd be wise to listen to the likes of William Pierce. They work with the same information and have radically different outcomes. If you want a real education listen to people you disagree with. Pierce is sickening to listen to. But that's real diversity. I think we're done here.
@smileykermit I don't think it's that outrageous for someone to want to start a revolution if they knew that their government was committing such acts. U.S. actions led to the killings of millions of people. Ayers killed some bricks and mortar. I love listening to people who disagree with me, that's how I learn so much. I will look into Pierce, thanks.
@damoninsky Pierce was also anti-government and was motivated to do away with the US as we know it. Anyhow, you need to look beyond your turkey burgers and easy assumptions. So what if they wanted total revolution. They were kids... truth is, he's having more of an impact teaching leftist ideology than he ever would with a handful of bombs. Also, you rarely have a revolution without violence. Other WU sources don't paint such a cleaned up version as you do. 2011 is not 1968, 69. 70. etc...
I say 5, because they didn't go out killing government officials or police on purpose. They didn't preach violence and try to start a revolution to take over the government (like what happens in other countries). These are more extreme measures than the peaceful demonstrations we are used to. The Weatherman's actions were more extreme than what I could do (or many of us could), but not so extreme that they should be considered "terrorists".
@damoninsky Bernardine Dohrn had people plant bombs around a judge's home hoping to blow him and his wife and young children sky high. So what the fuck do you call that...playin' around? And don't start with the usual denial of it ever happening. She publically took responsibility for the attempted murders. I know this cause I was alive then. Were you? You and these despicable people you defend have situational ethics: your ethics change according to your circumstances and environment.
@kaliediscope1 We weren't alive back in the Civil War, but do we need to have been to know that it was gruesome as hell? Do you have any idea of what the U.S. was doing to the people of Vietnam? Your government slaughtered 100,000's of innocent people for a decade! You want to talk about terrorists? Your murderous country (which you were living in) was the biggest of them all! How can you even THINK to compare Dohrn to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Kissinger? 100,000's!
@Allisoninsky You liberal fucks all dodge the facts about Ayers and Dohrn by using Vietnam. How original. THE PEACE MOVEMENT HAD ME...UNTIL WE PULLED OUT OF VIETNAM AND OVER ONE MILLION INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, IN VIETNAM, THAILAND, LAOS AND CAMBODIA WERE MURDERED BY THE COMMUNISTS AND NO ONE, *NO ONE FROM THE DAMN PEACE MOVEMENT UTTER A PEEP ABOUT IT*. The U.S. was IN South Vietnam to stop the advancement of communism. You're a clueless, arrogant, liberal-marxist spoiled brat.
@Boris82much Please show me some evidence (site some sources) of how "over one million innocent...were murdered by communists." once we left Vietnam, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia. WE murdered millions of men, women and children!!! You're still believing those McCarthyism fear tactics? Hahaha. They had a democratically elected government until we came over. Aren't we supposed to SUPPORT democracy??? The U.S. is a million times the terrorist Bill Ayers is.
@damoninsky OMG are you serious???? Do you know how to read? Do you know how to read anything that wasn't authored by communist punks out of Chicago?????
I refuse to do the research YOU should and need to be doing before you shoot your mouth off. I can't believe you would actually reveal that you know next to nothing about South Vietnam and what came as a result of our pulling out.
Ayers never gave a shit for the Vietnamese. He wants to install communism in America.
@Boris82much Hahaha, you really can't give me a single source of how it got WORSE when we left Vietnam? Surely you have a title for me? No, of course you can't, you just made this idea up or just believed it because Glen Beck said so. I just finished Howard Zinn's Twentieth Century, he quotes many historians on Vietnam, you should try reading it (if you care for knowledge). Try reading Ayers' books on public education and teaching too, READ books, stop watching FOX.
@damoninsky I will let your totally clueless dum-ass statement above speak for itself. You refuse to read anything that does not support your communistic beliefs. Unlike you, I was an adult when the U.S. pulled out of Nam. Unlike you, I read extensively the pros and cons of being in S.E. Asia and the aftermath of leaving. Unlike you, I rely mainly on eyewitness accounts from those Asians who lived under and/or escaped the communists. Here's some help for you: Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot.
@Boris82much Are you kidding? You rely on eyewitness accounts? What personal ones? What's the sample size of that? Historians use massive amounts of data and statistics, you may want to consider them as an alternative source of knowledge. So you lived during the McCarthy communist fear mongering days, if you haven't learned, it was all a ploy! No doubt Rouge and Pot sucked ass, but so did OUR government. We attacked Vietnam, before that the Philippines, all for ECONOMIC purposes.
@damoninsky The post Nam genocides by the communists were TOTALLY IGNORED BY THE GLAMOROUS WEATHERMAN UNDERGROUND. If their true mission had been to STOP HUMANS FROM KILLING HUMANS, WHY DID THEY NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE ASIAN MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN FORCED INTO LABOR CAMPS AND MURDERED BY THE KHMER ROUGE???? NOT ONE OUT-CRY. NOT ONE W.U. PROTEST MARCH ABOUT WHAT STARTED HAPPENING AFTER WE LEFT THOSE POOR PEOPLE HIGH AND DRY. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE SUPPORTING, damoninsky.
@Boris82much We didn't invade Cambodia, U.S. was involved in the Vietnam War (even though we did bomb the hell out of Cambodia for no reason and continued through 75). We didn't leave Cambodians, we left Vietnam (after slaughtering MORE than Pol Pot did). We just killed Cambodians, then left them to die by the Rouge. Unfortunately, there was far too much injustice in the world back then for the Weatherman to take on alone. It's kinda hard with a U.S. imperialistic government on your ass too.
@Boris82much In addition, it was OUR bombing of Cambodia that CREATED the Khmer Rouge in the first place, and we even SUPPORTED them after the Vietnamese came in and kicked them out!
@Boris82much Maybe we should invade again since Vietnam is still governed by the Communist Party of Vietnam. Aren't you scared of them? Oooooo, communists....socialists....oooohhhh, scary. Why aren't you calling for all out war again? If communism is so bad (and so much worse than our foreign policies), then why aren't we attacking?
@damoninsky Back during their glamorous 'revolution', Dohrn publically admitted to having the W.U. place home-made bombs around the home of a judge presiding on a Black Panther case. One under a car in his driveway failed to launch and another outside a window failed as well. If successful, both would have gone off in the dead of night, WHILE THE JUDGE AND HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN WERE SLEEPING. They did indeed terrorize. Too many of us who were adults back then remember all too well.
@kaliediscope1 The U.S. was slaughtering millions of innocent people in East Asia and was letting murdering and unending vicious hate crimes against African Americans to continue at home in the U.S. Dohrn tried to stop the never-ending horrific U.S. terrorist acts. You think Dohrn was worse than the U.S.?
Do a quick search for the name, Donna Ron. A few years ago she had the courage to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 60s. Today it's known as kidnapping and rape, gang rape. I admire her courage and thank her for shedding light on an arrogant and dangerous communist punk.
We tried to help South Vietnam from falling to communist control. That's why we were there. Liberal dickheads like you never ever talk about THE MILLIONS OF LAOSIANS, THIAS, VIETNAMESE AND CAMBODIANS WHO WERE SLAUGHTERED BY THE COMMUNISTS AFTER WE LEFT. ALL OF THOSE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, EXECUTED, WHILE BACK HERE AYERS AND THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND ARROGANTLY CELEBRATED THE END OF THE WAR. WOW...I am sooo impressed!! I honor and thank all veterans, esp. Viet Nam vets.
@Boris82much First of all, going to Vietnam was to thwart revolutionary nationalism and was to ensure economic growth (for us) and was a colossal mistake, violating "the supreme law of the land". China was communist and 100X larger, the "domino effect" was BS. Your facts are so blatantly wrong, why on earth do you think "millions" died after we left? We killed millions while there! I feel sorry for the vets who were merely pawns over there dying for nothing but for American Imperialism.
Billy just got fired from his job. Castro has denounced marxism as it has done nothing...nothing, for Cuba and its people, according to him. Inept Obama (Billy's favorite pupil) is going down in flames.
@Boris82much You guys are hilarious. I'd bet $1,000,000 you got your info from Fox News. You know why? Because it's wrong, misleading and meant to trick you. First, he was not fired, he RETIRED. Second, Castro did NOT condemn Marxism (read the Guardian article, "Fidel Castro Says His Economic System is Failing"). 3rd, explain how increasing everyone's income is bad for the country. Go watch Rachel Maddow's "Why (all) Elections Matter" to see the graph on Income Growth Rates.
@damoninsky HE WAS DENIED HIS PROFESSORIAL STANDING because he dedicated one of his books to Robert F. Kennedy's assasin, Sirhan Sirhan...'member him
? I'll let your answer on Fidel stand on it's own (love it!). And on increasing everyone's income...YOU HAVE FALLEN FOR THAT MARXIST BULLSHIT? Didn't work in Cuba, did it? Aint worked in Venezuela (skyrocketing unemployment, one of the highest murder rates in the world). Canada's socialist healthcare is a joke (6+ mos. to see a doc for a cold).
@Boris82much YOU live in a fairytale world. And I haven't laughed so hard since I read the INCREDIBLE NEWS, THE RACHEL MADDOW INCOME GROWTH RATES CHART!!!! WhoooHooo!!!
NO ONE wins when you have to rely on any government for a job, when it takes most of your money and hands out promises it never keeps.
Why do I even talk with you? You are so naive and brainwashed with marxist idealogy.
Oh and by the way your mainstream corrupt news outlets reported the same on Ayers. Start reading.
@Boris82much So you admit your initial statement of him being "fired" was false, good. And what was the main reason for being denied emeritus? A family member of the Kennedy's who had the power to deny him this honor did so because Ayers (as he should have) criticized JFK and his role in the Vietnam war. Uh, if you look at Venezuela, their economy created 3x the jobs as U.S., their per capita income grew 50% and poverty was reduced by half since Chavez took control! Watch my Canada film.
@damoninsky He was fired you dirtbag and you know it. You split hairs like a hair-dresser with a hard-on. Why did the Kennedy's wait til NOW to exert their influence against Ayers??????? What a load of shit. And Chavez, oh gawd you are living in a fantasy world. The living situation in that poor country is just the opposite from your fluff piece. Why don't you go and live there. Or better yet, go to Cuba! Just another FAILED MARXIST debacle.
@Boris82much What? Where is your evidence of him being fired? You can't just make shit up or assume it. He's worked there for decades, if he got fired, there would be an obvious reason. Kennedy couldn't fire him for no reason, but after you retire there are certain privileges one can earn (emeritus status), so apparently he had the power to revoke that. How can you just ignore facts, why don't you go read up on Venezuela instead of ignoring knowledge repeating Fox news rhetoric.
@Aldebaron9 My supposed clogging problem is nothing compared to the back-up problemo you still have with that gerbil. PETA is gonna fire-bomb your house!!
Ayers did do one good thing: He helped wake this great nation UP. The Progressives still have Michael Moore, though. God I hope he runs in 2012 on their ticket. It'll be the last nail in the coffin of a socialistic take-over. Champagne anyone?
@mulhollanddose It's completely skewed! That idiot does NOT represent the Black Panther party, he represents the "NEW" Black Panther party (a violent extremist group). The original Black Panthers were accepting of diversity and preached PEACE. This asshole is absurdly racist and is NOT a true member of the panthers and should be completely ignored. Why did you make a video of this?
@mulhollanddose Yes I am. Show me where they preached violence! Why don't you find a book to read about them instead of watching Fox News for info. Just type in Black Panthers in Amazon and choose a few to read.
Damon, for future reference. If you are going to play this "if it originated with Fox News I will dismiss it out of hand", I will play the "If it originated with Robert Greenwald I will dismiss it out of hand."...Don't expect me to accept a hard left paid propaganda whore for expert opinion. Greenwald is a dirtbag and has no allegiance to facts or truth.
@mulhollanddose Evidence that his facts are wrong? Why are you so scared to watch it? You probably don't like Michael Moore either. You know he'll give you $10,000 if you can prove any of his evidence is wrong? Fine, let's play the Factcheck game then. If you won't look at evidence from a liberal stand point, then go to the BIPARTISAN Factcheck website and simply type in Fox in their search engine. Pages upon pages of exaggerated or simply completely false info. FactCheck
@mulhollanddose Hahahahaha...IT"S BIPARTISAN you twit! The volume of anti-Fox examples are there BECAUSE FOX IS BS. It's an entertaining, fear-mongering, hateful, anti-democratic, corporation-loving, propaganda machine that brainwashes the ignorant.
Damon, when somebody like you pushes "factcheck(dot)org" you know it is total bullshit. Why don't you link me to your terrorist mentor comrade. You are beginning to bore me.
Damon, you do know that the uber progressive disgusting propaganda arm called "moveon.org" produced Outfoxed, don't you? They are funded by the former Nazi collaborator George Soros. You know, the guy who is trying to collapse our economy?
@mulhollanddose Hahaha...Soros tried his best to stop Bush. You do realize that all of these budget cuts in every state is due to the Iraq war right? Due to Fox believers right? If Bush was never voted in, we wouldn't have had the unjust Iraq War and still have $750 Billion dollars. Our public school district can't afford a $1 million cut, so they're cutting out 12 days of school next year and losing 5 teachers. Yay Bush! Hawaii school district is down to 4 days of school a week.
So exactly what was Sandy Berger stealing from the National Archives? Bush didn't have Condoleeza Rice shoving top secret documents regarding 9/11 down her panties and in her panty-hose, but Clinton had Berger doing it...No biggy, right Damon? Berger's lawyers claim it wasn't a big deal, and the media buried it (except Fox of course), so Clinton surely was clean as the driven snow!
BTW, our public schools are a failure because of the corrupt teacher's unions.
@mulhollanddose You're too much of an idiot to talk to anymore. Go watch your Fox news and pretend to know both sides of the current issues. It's the easiest way for lazy Americans to pretend to learn and actually feel smart about knowing something. I gave you some great advice, I wish you'd take it. You hate unions but love corporations, I know this. You want to help the rich and hurt the poor. I know. You think liberals are the problem (hahahilarious), I know. Peace.
@mulhollanddose wait, last one, this is just so fitting...go watch Jon Stewart's latest segment. Just type in Jon Stewart and Blame in Google and you should find it no problem.
Damon, George Soros is a Nazi collaborator. He was far worse than Robert Byrd, the Democrat hero, who was just in charge of organizing lynchings of black people, but he was and is a POS just the same.
So, shithead, what and why do you think Clinton had Berger steal documents from the National Archives? If it wasn't just a wee bit humiliating, why did John Kerry jettison Berger and why has Berger disappeared from the public eye?
@mulhollanddose 99% of previous cabinet members are out of public eye. Sorry there was never enough evidence or even a possibility of this misdemeanor being remotely important for nearly every single media outlet to dwell on it. But you're doing great, keep up the conspiracy theories, you're sure to recruit more morons with it.
So why would Clinton send in Berger to steal documents from the National Archives? Why would it be so important to remove incriminating evidence before testifying before the 9/11 Commission? The misdemeanor plea was a sign of corruption in Washington D.C...The slap on the wrist Berger got was a sign of the reality that the powerful and rich get away with corruption, in this case corruption covering up Clinton regime incompetence and/or corruption.
You believe that a corrupt Justice Dept, full of Clinton era leftovers, giving Berger a misdemeanor, fining him $50,000, plus court costs, plus removing his security clearance, plus him being disbarred, somehow mitigates the fact that Sandy Berger conspired with Clinton to destroy incriminating evidence. You think it is acceptable for the 9/11 investigation to be defrauded and obstructed in their fact finding mission.
So, why did Berger steal and destroy top secret docs?
@mulhollanddose I'm not sure why; but obviously it wasn't that big of a deal since it was only a misdemeanor, slap on the wrist. But it's kinda hard to charge Bush for just being a stupid, lazy president who vacationed for 7 months and ignored every terrorist threat...the people get what they voted for. dumb, dumb, dumb. If McCain won, we'd be in a 3rd war with Iran right now.
Berger stealing top secret documents immediately before testifying in front of the 9/11 Commission was A VERY BIG DEAL. It was buried. There is no possible way to rationalize or defend such criminal behavior. The claims that it was no big deal came from the Berger/Clinton lawyers...Why Berger wasn't imprisoned can only be explained by a corrupted system. Obstruction of justice, especially in the matter of a public investigation regarding 9/11, is a very VERY serious crime.
damon...You are in denial. Sometimes in our lives (I am assuming you are in your 20s by your blind ignorance) that we come to understand that the people whom we highly revered are nothing but scumbags. I hope you wake up from your brainwashing and realize you have been duped...There is a reason why they don't want you watching Fox News, they don't want you to hear any beliefs that counter their beliefs...I'd be pissed at them if I was you...I'd never tell you to close your mind, they do.
@mulhollanddose What does age have anything to do with intelligence or wealth of knowledge? There are other ways of hearing both points of view rather than watching people who have an agenda to preach. Believing what Fox News says is equivalent to the brainwashing North Korea does to its people. Fox is the greatest spinner out there; how do you get the other point of view if you just watch Fox?
Damon, I am embarrasing you. I am making you look like a fool, which is appropos...You sit at the feet of an idiot (Ayers) and you become an idiot...Sorta like Obama.
"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu
@mulhollanddose The CIA declared there were no WMDs. Just because one person has their own interpretation doesn't make it a fact (kinda like how one climatologist disagreeing with climate change data doesn't make it true). There exists an entire consensus amongst all intelligence agencies. You are living in denial. Suck it up, everything you believed those 8 years were wrong; just admit you made a mistake and move on. It's OK, there are millions of you that voted for those jerks.
Actually poisonous chemicals such as nerve gas were found which where intended to be used as weapons.Last I checked,chemical warfare violates the Geneva Convention rules.Also diseases in container which could be used for the same purpose were also found,again in violation of the Geneva Convention.Short and intermediate range missles were also found and Sadam Hussien was not supposed to have those according to a treaty he signed.
@BobReidy The U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee, in 2008, determined that the administration "Misinterpreted the intelligence and the threat from Iraq". Even if there were some chemicals, the "imminent threat" fear they propagated into the public was FALSE. You miss the point entirely, that Saddam was NEVER A THREAT but used that red herring to get into Iraq for other reasons.
If this is true,I stand corrected.You do admitt Sadam was a bad guy though.However,the US has supported "bad guys" before I will admit.Ex:Marcos,Pinochet,the Sha of Iran and others I cant think of.
The U.S. Intelligence Committee was corrupted in 2008 by the Democrat takeover. Chemical, biological and yellow-cake WERE FOUND in Iraq. Case closed...Democrats made the case Saddam was an imminent threat FAR BEFORE Bush did:
@mulhollanddose Yeah, when Saddam didn't comply with UNSCOM, there was a MULTIlateral agreement to do something about it. So we bombed him for four days, "degrading" any capability he may have of making WMDs. MULTILATERAL. The world agreed. Bush acted ALONE, WITHOUT proof and AGAINST the world's consent...this is a major reason why the world hates us and how his actions have made us LESS SAFE!
The multi-lateral (a meaningless freaking term) bombing of Saddam DID NOTHING to degrade his WMD capacity. The DNC just claimed it did to cover their useless asses. Even after the four day bombing the Democrats were claiming Saddam was a grave threat, had WMD capabilities, and had connections to Al Qaeda.
@mulhollanddose but the 150 million people that voted war mongering republicans into office '00-'08 aren't? How many innocent people were killed under their watch?
Damon, since when have you liberals (communists in drag) been not the warmongerers? I won't go into foreign liberals (whom you liberals love), lets just stick with American liberals...Do you remember the Democrat wars? Do you remember those incompetent bloodbaths maiming millions, mass murdering millions, and leaving 100s of thousands of families with lost military family members?...Let me remind you: WWI, WW2, Korea and Vietnam.
@mulhollanddose There's no doubt democrats have been involved in some shit, but WWII was absolutely justified. I made another video (American Imperialism Timeline) that clearly shows American mistakes, not just republicans. I completely disagree for many of our reasons for war; and this video demonstrates this because Ayers was trying to STOP a stupid ass war (started by Dems, exacerbated by Reps); and this last Bush administration had the WORST reasons.
You say "this last Bush admin had the worst reasons" for war: How so? Every criticism I have seen has been either demolished or disspelled. It wasn't for the oil (we get our oil mostly from Canada and Mexico). It wasn't to avenge his daddy (this is just a lie)...Is there some other hidden agenda I have missed?
We were attacked on 9/11. The first time ever against a civilian target on U.S. soil. Bush inherited Democrat policies of regime change for Iraq.
@mulhollanddose Isn't it interesting the original operation name to going into Iraq was Operation Iraqi Liberation? You can hear Ari Fleicher say this. Why was Bush trying to get into Iraq only 10 days after being in office?
Damon, you either lied or were misinformed in your video apology of Ayers. He never expressed regret for his hatred of America and his terrorist actions. He slipped through the cracks due to a legal technicality. He has admitted that he felt like he could have done more (not peacefully) to kill Americans...How you, in good conscience, defend this dirtbag is astounding.
@mulhollanddose I don't know why this is so hard for people to accept; he says admits that he should have done more because SO many people were being unjustly murdered over in SE Asia. The Weatherman's methods were influential in bringing the Vietnam war to an end; "not peacefully" they might have been but many lives were saved. How can you sit there and say that we should have gone into Iraq? What was the purpose? 100,000 + lives were lost, for what?
One more thing: You liberals don't speak for our military. A vast majority of our soldiers that went to Iraq and Afghanistan knew the risks and actually joined after 9/11...Although the war was imperfect, as they will ALWAYS be, the results have been very positive. The Iraqi people (beyond the Baathist fascists and terrorists) are optimistic about their futures and the butcher Saddam is dead. Bush liberated 50,000,000 people, and this is what America is all about.
@mulhollanddose You are so brainwashed it's scary. Half the country thought Iraq had something to do with 9/11 (due to Bush propaganda of lies); that's why people joined. But what has happened since? Most of those soldiers have no idea why they are there and want to come back. You say "results have been very positive"? HAHAHA. There isn't a single Iraqi citizen that doesn't personally know a friend or family member who has been violently killed. You need to stop watching FOX.
Your party has lied to the world and to America. Before Bush took office the liberals were all absolutely convinced Saddam was our greatest threat. The liberals were all convinced that Saddam had WMD. They liberals were all convinced Saddam had direct ties to Al Qaeda (read the 1998 indictment of Osama Bin Laden online).
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Now only were the Dems claiming Saddam had WMD, but many other nations made the same claim. Whether he had them or not was irrelevant.
@mulhollanddose Hayes and Limbaugh FALSELY cited the 1998 bin Laden indictment as proof that Clinton administration had "connected" Iraq, Al Qaeda. You are sadly mistaken, it was the BUSH administration who tried to convince everyone that there was a link with Al Qaeda, hence their case for war. The Bush administration lied, lied, lied. It was BUSH that dropped the ball. He didn't have a single meeting about Osama before 9/11.
Damon, and of all those Iraqis that know someone violently killed during our liberation of the Iraqi people, the greatest amount were killed by either Saddam Hussein, his fascist party, or foreign terrorists...You are traitor, Damon, just like Bill Ayers.
@mulhollanddose Saddam was never committing genocide (as you stated earlier). He definitely was a fascist dick head that should have been removed from power, but NOT unilaterally and NOT under false pretenses (link with Al Qaeda and WMDs). He was nowhere near the worst dictator around (ie: Bugabe or Kim Jong Il); but we don't take those guys out, why not? Because they don't have any valuable resources (OIL).
Saddam did commit genocide. Some say over a million died due to multi-lateral UN sanctions via starvation. Actual mass graves were found, which you didn't see because you don't have a curious mind. Naturally the media buried the mass graves story as it leant more weight behind the liberation of the Iraqi people...We are America, we don't need to get the approval of worldwide dirrtbags to make a decision. Many countries opposed our operation because of their Iraqi oil contracts.
@mulhollanddose You're right, it was Clinton/Albright's influence in implementing those multilateral sanctions. You obviously don't have a clue of the death and destruction we have caused to their culture the last 7 years; you should look into what the people over there are saying instead of American Right pundits. I'm sorry you don't believe in a democratic world government and prefer to be a super power that should do whatever it wants. Most countries opposed due to insufficient evidence.
You haven't much credibility Damon. Your ideology, aside from Islam, has been the greatest evil mankind has ever seen. In the last 100 years over 100,000,000 were killed in the name of socialism. It is oppressive everywhere it is attempted, and for some reason blind fools such as yourself want to give in one more whirl, as if history will miraculously not repeat itself this time.
The Iraqi people are no longer under the brutal iron boot of Saddam Hussein.
@mulhollanddose You are terribly misinformed, millions were killed in the name of RELIGION (not just Islam); And it wasn't Socialism that killed those people, it was NATIONAL Socialism; big flippin difference! Currently, almost every country has universal Health Care, where is all the killing in Canada, Europe and S. America?
I'd say religion is "the greatest evil mankind has ever seen."
Bush inherited 9/11 from the Democrat party. It is a little suspicious that Clinton had his National Security Adviser conspire to destroy top-secret documents sensitive to their failed policy regarding Iraq and terrorism...Why do your conspiracy fruitcake buddies ever consider that?...You probably didn't know Sandy Berger entered the National Archives on multiple occasions and removed and destroyed evidence before testifying before the 9/11 Commission.
@mulhollanddose What is your source on Clinton destroying "top-secret documents"? I have never heard of this, where is your evidence? Even if this is true, Bush did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING his first 8 months in office regarding BinLaden (except take the longest vacation in presidential history) even though he was given multiple warnings terrorist strikes. You should really read Paul O'Neil or Richard Clark's book about this time period.
Why should I read Richard Clark's book. He was in charge of terrorist policy and 9/11 happened? Richard Clark okayed the Bin Laden's flying out of the country...Bush inherited a buried terrorist problem and by the time they realized the problems it was too late. Bush was given NO warnings other than the most common warnings such as "terrorists want to attack us", which is always true.
Clinton had Sandy Berger steal top-secret documents before testifying before the 9/11 Commis.
@mulhollanddose "No warnings"??? Are you kidding me? I just found this site titled The White House had (at least ) 28 Advanced Intelligence Warnings Prior to 9/11. You may want to READ Clark's book (don't forget about O'Neil too). Clark was trying to convince the administration to break up Al Qaeda immediately; all the while Rice/Bush sat on their damn hands. You're lack of knowledge or refusal to accept knowledge is embarrassing.
@mulhollanddose "No warnings"??? Are you kidding me? I just found this site titled The White House had (at least ) 28 Advanced Intelligence Warnings Prior to 9/11. You may want to READ Clark's book (don't forget about O'Neil too). Clark was trying to convince the administration to break up Al Qaeda immediately; all the while Rice/Bush sat on their damn hands. You're lack of knowledge or refusal to accept knowledge is embarrassing.
You are being a fool, Damon. The Clinton Administration did NOTHING to capture or kill Bin Laden. He had more than one chance to do so. He issued a bunch of useless PDBs that said things like "terrorists want to attack us." This was nothing new or unique. Bush had no reason to believe that this terrorist problem was so great as he claimed he had it under control...Seven months later we are bombed. We find out Sandy Berger was stealing documents before the 9/11 Commission...2+2=4
@mulhollanddose See, you continue to say this yet not having read Clark's or O'Neil's book. Clinton did everything he could to stop BinLaden, but his leads were fabricated. He beefed up military and intelligence over there beyond belief (so much evidence of this). Yet look at what Bush and Condi did! Vacation and No-bid energy contracts. READ CLARK'S and O'NEIL'S BOOK!
Clarke went into full cover his ass mode after 9/11. He wrote a book to make money off of his and Bill Clinton's gross negligence...According to the man in charge of capturing/killing Bin Laden, Bill Clinton is a lying POS, and Clinton refused to kill Bin Laden when he had a multitude of chances...Fast forward to the 9/11 Commission when Clinton sent Berger into the National Archives to destroy memos between Clinton and Richard Clarke.
@mulhollanddose You keep on saying the same lies that Clinton had these chances to kill Bin Laden. This is a repeated lie Fox and Friends said over and over again until they finally stopped because it was totally debunked. Just because you say a lie a million times, doesn't make it true. Regarding those Berger memos you keep on referring to, that's a conspiracy theory. Only the far right media reported that. An investigation proved nothing was destroyed.
Richard Clarke was the one common theme in the Clinton and Bush Administrations. It makes sense that he would write a book blaming other people. Democrats like Richard Clarke always blame other people when they screw up...If Richard Clarke did his job (WHICH HE DIDN'T) we wouldn't have been attacked...Unfortunately Clinton failed to kill or capture Bin Laden on multiple occasions.
@mulhollanddose Clark's job was to report to the president and staff on what they should do. There is documentation after documentation of Clark trying to get them to move on Al Qaeda without a budge from the greedy Bush administration. Please provide proof of these "multiple occasions" by citing legitimate media sources (and NOT your right-wing conspiracy fanatic ones).
Guess whose documents Clinton sent Sandy Berger in to steal? Richard Clarke's...Interesting that Richard Clarke would later get dismissed (fired) and then write a book blaming Bush, isn't it?...Thankfully George Bush was too nice of a man to hang Clarke, Berger and Clinton out to dry, as he should have.
@mulhollanddose HAHAHA! I love how you can totally disregard everything Clark says simply because he worked with a Democratic president. I also love Conodleezza Rice's memo "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S." yet thought nothing of it. How can you sit there and denounce Clinton when Bush vacationed for 4/8 months? Your account of history is alarmingly nebulous.
That PDB "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S." was buried in a mountain of memos. Not only was it not taken seriously by the Clinton Administration, but it said nothing. It didn't state anything new. I am sure Clinton left the country, the White House not only vandalized, in disarray. Clinton and Richard Clarke kicked the can forward, buried it, and then pretended as if the Clinton Administration had nothing to do with it...In comes Sandy Berger to destroy documents.
@mulhollanddose What are you talking about? That memo was given to the BUSH administration. And it wasn't buried, Condi knew it from heart, she was well aware of it. The Clinton vandalizing the White House...HAHAHA, you sure love your republican lies don't you. Please, I ask you again to provide your source of evidence (from a credible source, not your Fox News friends).
See, Damon. You are brainwashed. You have been mind controlled to dismiss anything that doesn't fit in to your brainwashing. Fox News is about the closest thing to objective journalism the world has. The rest are just DNC propaganda machines...The vandalizim of the White House by the Clinton regime has been reported and corroborated. Everything from stealing memorbilia, to tearing out the "W" keys from the White House keyboards, to general destruction of public property.
@mulhollanddose HOLY SHIT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious? You can't be...really? You just said Fox is "objective" and consider it to be the best in the world? It's not even real 'news'! But just a bunch of idiots believing the same thing and saying the same thing.
You clearly don't watch Fox, you just get your news from uber-leftist propaganda rags. I watch Fox for the left v right debate. Something you RARELY see anywhere else...The rest of the mainstream media is just a propaganda arm of the DNC.
@mulhollanddose I definitely don't watch Fox any more. It's too disturbing, it reminds me of North Korean propaganda. The Left vs Right debate? You mean the 4 conservatives vs 1 blue-dog? That doesn't count. NPR at least picks out the 2 most experienced people to debate/discuss a matter (senators, ambassadors, professors, etc...); Fox has religious nuts.
Damon, expecting the liberal media (whom you consider reputable) to spend more than a passing mention on anything destructive to the Democrat party is like expecting Josef Goebbels to talk trash on Adolph Hitler...I admit it is hard to find the establishment (read: liberal) media destroying the lies of Democrats, which illustrates how they are nothing more than a liberal whorehouse...That said, I don't need Fox to tell me what the Democrats said themselves.
@mulhollanddose Are you kidding? The Dems crap on each other all the time! They can't agree on anything and are always bashing each other; hence the whole reason why Obama can't pass anything he wants. Half the Dems are corporate owned (just like the Reps); your little book is a waste of time to refute.
Really Damon? Are you F'n serious? You pretend as if life was better under Saddam Hussein than the evil George Bush. Do you realize how asinine that is? You don't realize it do you? You are so entirely invested in the liberal propaganda that you can't accept that the liberation of the Iraqi people was at the very least a net positive for the Iraqi people (except of course the Baathist fascists).
Google "Saddam mass graves", "Iraqi rape rooms, "Saddam children prison."
@mulhollanddose I'm only repeating what the Iraqi citizens are repeating (the ones that are still alive that is). I really can't say how much better life is over there, only they can, and from what many have claimed, is that live was better for them under Saddam than this occupation. This isn't "liberal propaganda", this is basic journalism...just read what many of them have to say! Again, there's no doubt he was an evil Dictator, but why not take down Mugabe or Kim Jong Il?
At the most liberal estimates (not the horseshit you have probably ingested) the number of casualties in Iraq are around 120,000. Most of those were killed by Iraqis and Islamic terrorists...This is a far cry from the way FDR carpet bombed civilians in Germany...From all reports the Iraqi people are VERY optimistic about their future and they are no longer under an oppressive brutal dictator.
@mulhollanddose I have always stated 100,000 Iraqis killed (so don't presume I'm overestimating). Did you know there was never a known suicide bomber case in Iraq until we invaded??? Remember, it was our invasion that created this chaos, not just random civil/terrorist war fighting. After nearly a decade of unbelievable death and chaos in their country, I'm sure people have hope and are optimistic of the future (how could they get any worse?).
Before we invaded Iraq suicide bombers weren't the problem, Saddam was. Did you do that search on mass graves like I asked you to, or did you bury your fingers in your ears and loudly say "NA NA NA NA NA NA!!!" to block out reality?...If there was a suicide bomber in Iraq, he would have been killed...Did you know that Saddam harbored Abu Nidal and Abu Abbas???...That is the whole point -- Saddam was funding (Palestinian suicide bombers) and harboring terrorists...Truth hurts?
@mulhollanddose Dude, I know about the mass graves, I never denied it nor the fact that Saddam was utter shit. Sorry, your "truth" is so freaking skewed it's painful. There was absolutely NO link with Al Qaeda and NO WMDs (the entire case for war) ever found. The Bush administration milked every shred of possible evidence to propagate his intentions on invading (ie. listening to Chalabi), while disregarding the PLETHORA of intel that countered it. O-I-L.
No links between Saddam and Al Qaeda? Well Clinton and his brightest and best were making that claim before Bush took office, including your book writing hero Richard Clarke. I have pointed you to Clinton's 1998 indictment of Osama where he links Osama with Saddam.
WMD were one of many convincing justifications for bringing Saddam to justice and liberate his people. Bush just repeated the Democrat party's (including Clarke) claims Saddam had WMD.
@mulhollanddose You are embarrassing yourself every time you write. No serious person or intellectual believes there is still a link between Saddam and Al Qaeda or WMDs. These were BUSH's fabricated cases for war, and they have been debunked repeatedly. Clinton had NOTHING to do with this (apart from boosting up military in preparation).
Damon, you are a classic statist. It is not that you are too stupid to comprehend the facts, it is that you refuse to. In classic statist form you claim other people are the ignorant ones for not stumbling blindly along with you...I am going to attempt to get through your brainwashing one last time...Bush fabricated nothing regarding the lead up to the liberation of the Iraqi people. It was the Democrat party that first claimed Saddam had WMD and had connections to Al Qaeda.
@mulhollanddose Sorry, you are incorrect. I refuse to except YOUR facts, because YOUR facts are FOX NEWS facts, which AREN'T facts; but only snippets of the truth. I get my info from actual journalistic media (BBC, WSJ, NPR, Democracy Now, NY Times). Fox isn't "News", it's people with opinions. They even admit it. Watch Jon Stewart's For Fox Sake (it's hilarious).
Precisely which Fox News facts have I stated that are inherently wrong?...I have destroyed you in this debate and your best rebuttal is to attack Fox.
@mulhollanddose If all you are going to do is repeat Fox rhetoric without citing legitimate journals/media; the conversation ends. It's like asking a religious person for evidence of a god and they can only point to their book; that doesn't prove anything.
OK, I'm sick of all of these points being made without proper evidence. I'd prefer to stick to one subject at a time with as much evidence as possible. I could tear you apart on each of these topics, but considering you're continuing to state that Fox is the most objective news source in the world; all I should have to do is prove to you that it's completely biased, and that will save a heap of time refuting your other fallacious claims.
I reiterate. You have magically dismissed everything I have said because you think that anything that challenges you is immediately wrong and Fox related. As if Fox doesn't report facts...Please illustrate, or point to, one Fox news lie that I offered as evidence. You dismissed the Berger crimes as having origination in Fox News, then I offered the liberal Washington Post, and then you went silent.
@mulhollanddose I dismiss Fox facts because they only report a tiny portion that meets their agenda, leaving out all of the other facts. So when you reiterate that little portion, you entirely miss the big picture. Again, they claimed over and over that Berger was suspected of destroying docs, saying it so many times that their idiot audience believes it to be true; however nothing was ever destroyed. Your WP quote didn't prove anything.
"Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, a former White House national security adviser, plans to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, and will acknowledge intentionally removing and destroying copies of a classified document about the Clinton administration's record on terrorism."
For some unknown reason Bush forgave Berger and didn't make crucify him in the media and put him in prison. The 9/11 Commission NEVER asked why he stole and destroyed top-secret RICHARD CLARKE docs.
William Ayers is a scumbag traitor and deserves to die. He declared war on the same country that now enables his freedom of speech.... he makes money off the system he declares evil. He represents EVERYTHING wrong with the "anti-war" Socialist elements of the Baby-Boom generation. He has NO business teaching kids and deserves nothing less than to get his head bashed in until his cranium implodes and he dies in the street in a pool of his own blood.
That's because it's an irrelevant, petty point regarding how Bush did NOTHING before 9/11. Clinton at least was beefing up military and discussing Bin Laden; Bush did not a damn thing. How can you sit there and blame Clinton when he never had clear intel on where Bin Laden was? At least he was TRYING to do something. Bush got his no-bid energy policy going though.
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Do a quick search for the name, Donna Ron. A few years ago she had the courage to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 60s. Today it's known as kidnapping and rape, gang rape. I admire her courage and thank her for shedding light on an arrogant and dangerous communist punk.
Boris82much 3 weeks ago
Communist shuffle
j19527 1 month ago
@j19527 anti-US foreign policy shuffle
Allisoninsky 1 month ago
@Allisoninsky In lue of damoninsky, its getting out of control because of you Communist bastards who saught to destroy everything. To Allisoninsky: Elaborate. You don't have to respond, you could just look at my profile, and it says it all. : )
j19527 1 month ago
@j19527 FIrst of all, none of us are communist. Second of all, what evidence is there that we tried to "destroy everything"? It was the U.S. imperialistic actions that destroyed Vietnam and Cambodia, decimated nearly all Central American countries, the Philippines, killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq and Afghanistan, and this list goes on and on.
damoninsky 1 month ago
@damoninsky It is not what you think it is-it IS-psychological warfare.
j19527 1 month ago
@j19527 you're exactly right! The right-wing has said the word "communist" so many times and have pumped fear into Americans for so long...the U.S. is totally paranoid!
Allisoninsky 1 month ago
@Allisoninsky Web Search: "Yuri Bezmenov" young Saul Alinsky. It's not my fault that you have failed in a free society. You just want something to bitch at.
You leftists have instituted the "shock doctrine" and promoting "fear mongering." Provoking everything that was and is-reasonable, rational, and sane. You take your guilt-lie about it, and then blame it on us.
There is something very wrong with you in the head. Seriously.
You have failed.
j19527 1 month ago
@j19527 Nobody is preaching communism here. Have you even read Shock Doctrine? Our government (w/ Republicans especially, FOX news, Bush Co., McCain = prime examples) is notorious for instilling fear in its citizens. Why is it so hard for people to accept that the U.S. has committed (and still is) horrific acts of violence to ensure its imperialistic stance in the world? All Ayers did was to try to stop the biggest terrorist of anyone, the U.S.! YOUR ignorance fails and hurts society.
damoninsky 1 month ago
@damoninsky Imperialism? Democrats are guilty of it too. What are we as a people imperialistic about? -Don't say oil.
Plus, why do marxist/communists occupy professor-positions in Accredited four year institutions in the United States and in Europe?
j19527 1 month ago
@j19527 Democrats are indeed guilty, but they are a lesser of two evils. Obviously, a secure economy is the reason for our historical Imperialist pursuits. It's not just oil, it's bananas, sugar, tin, copper, rubber, etc...so we make sure other countries don't exclude us from their resources by assassinating democratically elected leaders and instilling dictators. Just because professors agree with Marx, doesn't make them communists. You should read some of his works to see for yourself.
Allisoninsky 1 month ago
@Allisoninsky What makes Marx non-communist? Are other countries that different from us? We do not instill dictators. Even if we did, it would make things worse for our-as you say, "imperialistic pursuits." While this is happening, democrats raise taxes; Republicans are the lesser of the two evils here.
j19527 1 month ago
@j19527 Wow, you really don't know anything about our foreign policy. Time for a history lesson; go watch my other video American Imperialism Timeline (both parts). Marx wrote extensively on many subjects, not just communism. Just because he was wrong about communism actually working well, doesn't negate everything that he wrote. We made things worse for other countries, but not ourselves. Taxes are GOOD for society. They help pay for very necessary and important programs that help us.
damoninsky 1 month ago
@damoninsky LMAOROF!!!!!!!! You aren't serious, riiiight???
kaliediscope1 1 week ago
@kaliediscope1 Do you seriously believe the U.S. isn't a bigger terrorist than Ayers?
damoninsky 1 week ago
@kaliediscope1 In light of MLK's B-Day, I encourage you to listen to his speech "Why I am Opposed the War in Vietnam". How many innocent people did our country kill again?
damoninsky 1 week ago
@damoninsky Plus, Larry Grathwohl contends otherwise.
j19527 1 month ago
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Google the name Donna Ron. She had the courage a few years ago to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 1960s. Today it's called kidnapping and rape.
Boris82much 1 month ago
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Do a quick search for the name, Donna Ron. A few years ago she had the courage to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 1960s. Today it's called rape.
Boris82much 3 months ago
Here's a little sugar-coated piece of BS... private life is one thing, public life is quite another. He made you turkey burgers, great! I'm so happy for you...
smileykermit 4 months ago
@smileykermit "Public life is quite another"...indeed. Chicago's citizen of the year is pretty good...how about being an active citizen during the 60's to try to stop our hegemonic government to stop killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Maybe if there were more people like Ayers, then the two unjust wars started by the last Bush administration could have been prevented. We need more active citizens in this country. Maybe not as extreme as him.
damoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky I'm almost finished with Fugitive Days he comes across as an arrogant guy with a huge ego and somewhat holier-than-thou... Simple rule: You can't stop violence with violence and expect tranquility..., just like you can't wash blood off your hands with more blood. He may be a fine fellow and a good friend... enjoy his company while you can. Citizen of the Year? Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, which proves that these are empty accolades.... I'm no fan of either war, by the way.
smileykermit 4 months ago
@smileykermit I wouldn't say that violence can never produce peace; WWII ended through violence. However I do agree with you that it should be the last resort (which unfortunately it often never is). I also wouldn't say that Ayers committed "violence" as that vernacular is more associated with the harming of people. I don't think his actions could be seen as black or white; he went to extreme measures to help innocent people and since that time has been an important teacher and father.
damoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky Enough of this sugar coating... They didn't want to just end the war, but destroy the country they grew up in. They were a bunch of privileged brats, albeit intelligent and of the times they grew up in. They wanted a total revolution and used Mao, Che etc., as their role models. Let's not forget that they were also kids at the time. But had they succeeded they would have been the intelligentsia of a totalitarian regime just like China or Cuba. Worse than the US had ever been.
smileykermit 4 months ago
@smileykermit Come on, are you serious? "Destroy the country they grew up in"??? You are blindly regurgitating Fox News rhetoric word-for-word, how embarrassing. They were EDUCATED (most people with an education are "privileged") young adults and were trying to destroy the governments decision of slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent people. How could you support such a country? Go watch my other video called American Imperialism TImeline.
damoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky All "educated" people don't have the kind of privilege Ayers started out with... I have to wonder if you're serious. Their heroes were Mao, Che, Lenin, etc., they weren't interested in a constitutional government that would replace the dregs that were and are in charge. Because I disagree with his tactics you seem to think I'm blindly regurgitating Fox news and that I am in favor of unjust wars (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc). In your opinion, how were the Weathermen too extreme?
smileykermit 4 months ago
@smileykermit Please show me evidence that Mao was their hero. Che and Lenin I could understand (seeing as they were leading revolutions to help poor people from tyrants). I'm not sure why you think his privileged background is so out of the ordinary? Educated people are better informed about the world, and he knew how cruel his government was, so he was privileged to be in that position, so what? On a scale from 1-10 in terms of activism, the Weathermen were a 5.
damoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky Throughout Fugitive Days he cites "waving Mao's Little Red Book around". If they carried it, they read it. Even if ending the war was their prime goal, they favored total revolution. As did Che, as did Lenin. So called "educated people" are not necessarily better informed (you need to think seriously about that) Look up William Pierce - Rice University, Caltech, worked at Los Alamos, and taught Physics. He was also a Nazi. He had a worldview just as cohesive as Ayers & Co.
smileykermit 4 months ago
@smileykermit I definitely did not mean to imply that all educated people know best; but simply that his education was adequate enough to know what our government was up to. Most of this country hasn't a clue about our government's hegemonic actions (thus, NOT well educated). I would support the debate on this country having a revolution; if you watch my American Imperialism Timeline video, it will explain why a revolution may not be such a bad idea.
damoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky I watched you Timeline... there's nothing new there, typical fodder that's been detailed time and again. I would never defend any of their actions.... So we don't disagree. But so what? You'd be wise to listen to the likes of William Pierce. They work with the same information and have radically different outcomes. If you want a real education listen to people you disagree with. Pierce is sickening to listen to. But that's real diversity. I think we're done here.
smileykermit 4 months ago
@smileykermit I don't think it's that outrageous for someone to want to start a revolution if they knew that their government was committing such acts. U.S. actions led to the killings of millions of people. Ayers killed some bricks and mortar. I love listening to people who disagree with me, that's how I learn so much. I will look into Pierce, thanks.
Allisoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky Pierce was also anti-government and was motivated to do away with the US as we know it. Anyhow, you need to look beyond your turkey burgers and easy assumptions. So what if they wanted total revolution. They were kids... truth is, he's having more of an impact teaching leftist ideology than he ever would with a handful of bombs. Also, you rarely have a revolution without violence. Other WU sources don't paint such a cleaned up version as you do. 2011 is not 1968, 69. 70. etc...
smileykermit 4 months ago
I say 5, because they didn't go out killing government officials or police on purpose. They didn't preach violence and try to start a revolution to take over the government (like what happens in other countries). These are more extreme measures than the peaceful demonstrations we are used to. The Weatherman's actions were more extreme than what I could do (or many of us could), but not so extreme that they should be considered "terrorists".
damoninsky 4 months ago
@damoninsky Bernardine Dohrn had people plant bombs around a judge's home hoping to blow him and his wife and young children sky high. So what the fuck do you call that...playin' around? And don't start with the usual denial of it ever happening. She publically took responsibility for the attempted murders. I know this cause I was alive then. Were you? You and these despicable people you defend have situational ethics: your ethics change according to your circumstances and environment.
kaliediscope1 2 months ago
@kaliediscope1 We weren't alive back in the Civil War, but do we need to have been to know that it was gruesome as hell? Do you have any idea of what the U.S. was doing to the people of Vietnam? Your government slaughtered 100,000's of innocent people for a decade! You want to talk about terrorists? Your murderous country (which you were living in) was the biggest of them all! How can you even THINK to compare Dohrn to Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon and Kissinger? 100,000's!
Allisoninsky 2 months ago
@Allisoninsky You liberal fucks all dodge the facts about Ayers and Dohrn by using Vietnam. How original. THE PEACE MOVEMENT HAD ME...UNTIL WE PULLED OUT OF VIETNAM AND OVER ONE MILLION INNOCENT MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, IN VIETNAM, THAILAND, LAOS AND CAMBODIA WERE MURDERED BY THE COMMUNISTS AND NO ONE, *NO ONE FROM THE DAMN PEACE MOVEMENT UTTER A PEEP ABOUT IT*. The U.S. was IN South Vietnam to stop the advancement of communism. You're a clueless, arrogant, liberal-marxist spoiled brat.
Boris82much 2 months ago
@Boris82much Please show me some evidence (site some sources) of how "over one million innocent...were murdered by communists." once we left Vietnam, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia. WE murdered millions of men, women and children!!! You're still believing those McCarthyism fear tactics? Hahaha. They had a democratically elected government until we came over. Aren't we supposed to SUPPORT democracy??? The U.S. is a million times the terrorist Bill Ayers is.
damoninsky 2 months ago
@damoninsky OMG are you serious???? Do you know how to read? Do you know how to read anything that wasn't authored by communist punks out of Chicago?????
I refuse to do the research YOU should and need to be doing before you shoot your mouth off. I can't believe you would actually reveal that you know next to nothing about South Vietnam and what came as a result of our pulling out.
Ayers never gave a shit for the Vietnamese. He wants to install communism in America.
*Over my dead body*.
Boris82much 2 months ago
@Boris82much Hahaha, you really can't give me a single source of how it got WORSE when we left Vietnam? Surely you have a title for me? No, of course you can't, you just made this idea up or just believed it because Glen Beck said so. I just finished Howard Zinn's Twentieth Century, he quotes many historians on Vietnam, you should try reading it (if you care for knowledge). Try reading Ayers' books on public education and teaching too, READ books, stop watching FOX.
damoninsky 2 months ago
@damoninsky I will let your totally clueless dum-ass statement above speak for itself. You refuse to read anything that does not support your communistic beliefs. Unlike you, I was an adult when the U.S. pulled out of Nam. Unlike you, I read extensively the pros and cons of being in S.E. Asia and the aftermath of leaving. Unlike you, I rely mainly on eyewitness accounts from those Asians who lived under and/or escaped the communists. Here's some help for you: Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot.
Boris82much 1 month ago
@Boris82much Are you kidding? You rely on eyewitness accounts? What personal ones? What's the sample size of that? Historians use massive amounts of data and statistics, you may want to consider them as an alternative source of knowledge. So you lived during the McCarthy communist fear mongering days, if you haven't learned, it was all a ploy! No doubt Rouge and Pot sucked ass, but so did OUR government. We attacked Vietnam, before that the Philippines, all for ECONOMIC purposes.
damoninsky 1 month ago
@damoninsky The post Nam genocides by the communists were TOTALLY IGNORED BY THE GLAMOROUS WEATHERMAN UNDERGROUND. If their true mission had been to STOP HUMANS FROM KILLING HUMANS, WHY DID THEY NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE ASIAN MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN FORCED INTO LABOR CAMPS AND MURDERED BY THE KHMER ROUGE???? NOT ONE OUT-CRY. NOT ONE W.U. PROTEST MARCH ABOUT WHAT STARTED HAPPENING AFTER WE LEFT THOSE POOR PEOPLE HIGH AND DRY. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE SUPPORTING, damoninsky.
Boris82much 1 month ago
@Boris82much We didn't invade Cambodia, U.S. was involved in the Vietnam War (even though we did bomb the hell out of Cambodia for no reason and continued through 75). We didn't leave Cambodians, we left Vietnam (after slaughtering MORE than Pol Pot did). We just killed Cambodians, then left them to die by the Rouge. Unfortunately, there was far too much injustice in the world back then for the Weatherman to take on alone. It's kinda hard with a U.S. imperialistic government on your ass too.
damoninsky 1 month ago
@Boris82much In addition, it was OUR bombing of Cambodia that CREATED the Khmer Rouge in the first place, and we even SUPPORTED them after the Vietnamese came in and kicked them out!
damoninsky 1 month ago
@Boris82much Maybe we should invade again since Vietnam is still governed by the Communist Party of Vietnam. Aren't you scared of them? Oooooo, communists....socialists....oooohhhh, scary. Why aren't you calling for all out war again? If communism is so bad (and so much worse than our foreign policies), then why aren't we attacking?
damoninsky 1 month ago
@damoninsky Back during their glamorous 'revolution', Dohrn publically admitted to having the W.U. place home-made bombs around the home of a judge presiding on a Black Panther case. One under a car in his driveway failed to launch and another outside a window failed as well. If successful, both would have gone off in the dead of night, WHILE THE JUDGE AND HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN WERE SLEEPING. They did indeed terrorize. Too many of us who were adults back then remember all too well.
kaliediscope1 2 months ago
@kaliediscope1 The U.S. was slaughtering millions of innocent people in East Asia and was letting murdering and unending vicious hate crimes against African Americans to continue at home in the U.S. Dohrn tried to stop the never-ending horrific U.S. terrorist acts. You think Dohrn was worse than the U.S.?
damoninsky 2 months ago
Do a quick search for the name, Donna Ron. A few years ago she had the courage to post to the internet what Ayers did to her back in the 60s. Today it's known as kidnapping and rape, gang rape. I admire her courage and thank her for shedding light on an arrogant and dangerous communist punk.
Boris82much 5 months ago
@Boris82much No trial, no conviction, nothing mentioned for 40 years? please.
damoninsky 5 months ago
We tried to help South Vietnam from falling to communist control. That's why we were there. Liberal dickheads like you never ever talk about THE MILLIONS OF LAOSIANS, THIAS, VIETNAMESE AND CAMBODIANS WHO WERE SLAUGHTERED BY THE COMMUNISTS AFTER WE LEFT. ALL OF THOSE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, EXECUTED, WHILE BACK HERE AYERS AND THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND ARROGANTLY CELEBRATED THE END OF THE WAR. WOW...I am sooo impressed!! I honor and thank all veterans, esp. Viet Nam vets.
Boris82much 5 months ago
@Boris82much First of all, going to Vietnam was to thwart revolutionary nationalism and was to ensure economic growth (for us) and was a colossal mistake, violating "the supreme law of the land". China was communist and 100X larger, the "domino effect" was BS. Your facts are so blatantly wrong, why on earth do you think "millions" died after we left? We killed millions while there! I feel sorry for the vets who were merely pawns over there dying for nothing but for American Imperialism.
Allisoninsky 5 months ago
@Allisoninsky What a load of horse shit...your typical dull witted, socialistic, lazy propaganda. You are not worth talking with.
Boris82much 5 months ago
@Boris82much Yeah socialism! The Fox News Crap you watch is propaganda. Try reading books instead.
damoninsky 5 months ago
@Boris82much You were a tool used in an attempt to conquer Vietnam unsuccessfully; we killed so many people trying to liberate them.
RPenta 5 months ago
No defense for this MOTHERFUCKER!
DavidLJarvis 1 year ago
@DavidLJarvis No respect to your intelligence then.
damoninsky 1 year ago
Billy just got fired from his job. Castro has denounced marxism as it has done nothing...nothing, for Cuba and its people, according to him. Inept Obama (Billy's favorite pupil) is going down in flames.
Champagne anyone?
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much You guys are hilarious. I'd bet $1,000,000 you got your info from Fox News. You know why? Because it's wrong, misleading and meant to trick you. First, he was not fired, he RETIRED. Second, Castro did NOT condemn Marxism (read the Guardian article, "Fidel Castro Says His Economic System is Failing"). 3rd, explain how increasing everyone's income is bad for the country. Go watch Rachel Maddow's "Why (all) Elections Matter" to see the graph on Income Growth Rates.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky HE WAS DENIED HIS PROFESSORIAL STANDING because he dedicated one of his books to Robert F. Kennedy's assasin, Sirhan Sirhan...'member him
? I'll let your answer on Fidel stand on it's own (love it!). And on increasing everyone's income...YOU HAVE FALLEN FOR THAT MARXIST BULLSHIT? Didn't work in Cuba, did it? Aint worked in Venezuela (skyrocketing unemployment, one of the highest murder rates in the world). Canada's socialist healthcare is a joke (6+ mos. to see a doc for a cold).
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much YOU live in a fairytale world. And I haven't laughed so hard since I read the INCREDIBLE NEWS, THE RACHEL MADDOW INCOME GROWTH RATES CHART!!!! WhoooHooo!!!
NO ONE wins when you have to rely on any government for a job, when it takes most of your money and hands out promises it never keeps.
Why do I even talk with you? You are so naive and brainwashed with marxist idealogy.
Oh and by the way your mainstream corrupt news outlets reported the same on Ayers. Start reading.
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much So you admit your initial statement of him being "fired" was false, good. And what was the main reason for being denied emeritus? A family member of the Kennedy's who had the power to deny him this honor did so because Ayers (as he should have) criticized JFK and his role in the Vietnam war. Uh, if you look at Venezuela, their economy created 3x the jobs as U.S., their per capita income grew 50% and poverty was reduced by half since Chavez took control! Watch my Canada film.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky He was fired you dirtbag and you know it. You split hairs like a hair-dresser with a hard-on. Why did the Kennedy's wait til NOW to exert their influence against Ayers??????? What a load of shit. And Chavez, oh gawd you are living in a fantasy world. The living situation in that poor country is just the opposite from your fluff piece. Why don't you go and live there. Or better yet, go to Cuba! Just another FAILED MARXIST debacle.
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much What? Where is your evidence of him being fired? You can't just make shit up or assume it. He's worked there for decades, if he got fired, there would be an obvious reason. Kennedy couldn't fire him for no reason, but after you retire there are certain privileges one can earn (emeritus status), so apparently he had the power to revoke that. How can you just ignore facts, why don't you go read up on Venezuela instead of ignoring knowledge repeating Fox news rhetoric.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@Boris82much Yea right...suuuure.
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much you have a champagne bottle up your ass, boy and it's clogging your mind
Aldebaron9 1 year ago
@Aldebaron9 My supposed clogging problem is nothing compared to the back-up problemo you still have with that gerbil. PETA is gonna fire-bomb your house!!
Ayers did do one good thing: He helped wake this great nation UP. The Progressives still have Michael Moore, though. God I hope he runs in 2012 on their ticket. It'll be the last nail in the coffin of a socialistic take-over. Champagne anyone?
Boris82much 1 year ago
@Boris82much get off the planet.
Aldebaron9 1 year ago
You'll love my new video:
watch?v=mw_RKFB1z9E
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose It's completely skewed! That idiot does NOT represent the Black Panther party, he represents the "NEW" Black Panther party (a violent extremist group). The original Black Panthers were accepting of diversity and preached PEACE. This asshole is absurdly racist and is NOT a true member of the panthers and should be completely ignored. Why did you make a video of this?
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Are you asserting that the old Black Panther Party WAS NOT a violent extremist group?...lol...Have you a fucking clue Damon?
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Yes I am. Show me where they preached violence! Why don't you find a book to read about them instead of watching Fox News for info. Just type in Black Panthers in Amazon and choose a few to read.
damoninsky 1 year ago
Damon, for future reference. If you are going to play this "if it originated with Fox News I will dismiss it out of hand", I will play the "If it originated with Robert Greenwald I will dismiss it out of hand."...Don't expect me to accept a hard left paid propaganda whore for expert opinion. Greenwald is a dirtbag and has no allegiance to facts or truth.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Evidence that his facts are wrong? Why are you so scared to watch it? You probably don't like Michael Moore either. You know he'll give you $10,000 if you can prove any of his evidence is wrong? Fine, let's play the Factcheck game then. If you won't look at evidence from a liberal stand point, then go to the BIPARTISAN Factcheck website and simply type in Fox in their search engine. Pages upon pages of exaggerated or simply completely false info. FactCheck
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Facecheck is a liberal front. The proof is the sheer volume of anti-Fox horseshit.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Hahahahaha...IT"S BIPARTISAN you twit! The volume of anti-Fox examples are there BECAUSE FOX IS BS. It's an entertaining, fear-mongering, hateful, anti-democratic, corporation-loving, propaganda machine that brainwashes the ignorant.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, when somebody like you pushes "factcheck(dot)org" you know it is total bullshit. Why don't you link me to your terrorist mentor comrade. You are beginning to bore me.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Then stop making comments.
damoninsky 1 year ago
Damon, you do know that the uber progressive disgusting propaganda arm called "moveon.org" produced Outfoxed, don't you? They are funded by the former Nazi collaborator George Soros. You know, the guy who is trying to collapse our economy?
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Hahaha...Soros tried his best to stop Bush. You do realize that all of these budget cuts in every state is due to the Iraq war right? Due to Fox believers right? If Bush was never voted in, we wouldn't have had the unjust Iraq War and still have $750 Billion dollars. Our public school district can't afford a $1 million cut, so they're cutting out 12 days of school next year and losing 5 teachers. Yay Bush! Hawaii school district is down to 4 days of school a week.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
So exactly what was Sandy Berger stealing from the National Archives? Bush didn't have Condoleeza Rice shoving top secret documents regarding 9/11 down her panties and in her panty-hose, but Clinton had Berger doing it...No biggy, right Damon? Berger's lawyers claim it wasn't a big deal, and the media buried it (except Fox of course), so Clinton surely was clean as the driven snow!
BTW, our public schools are a failure because of the corrupt teacher's unions.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You're too much of an idiot to talk to anymore. Go watch your Fox news and pretend to know both sides of the current issues. It's the easiest way for lazy Americans to pretend to learn and actually feel smart about knowing something. I gave you some great advice, I wish you'd take it. You hate unions but love corporations, I know this. You want to help the rich and hurt the poor. I know. You think liberals are the problem (hahahilarious), I know. Peace.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose wait, last one, this is just so fitting...go watch Jon Stewart's latest segment. Just type in Jon Stewart and Blame in Google and you should find it no problem.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, George Soros is a Nazi collaborator. He was far worse than Robert Byrd, the Democrat hero, who was just in charge of organizing lynchings of black people, but he was and is a POS just the same.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
Damon, you are a nutsack washer of a terrorist. Your opinions are a joke.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
So, shithead, what and why do you think Clinton had Berger steal documents from the National Archives? If it wasn't just a wee bit humiliating, why did John Kerry jettison Berger and why has Berger disappeared from the public eye?
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose 99% of previous cabinet members are out of public eye. Sorry there was never enough evidence or even a possibility of this misdemeanor being remotely important for nearly every single media outlet to dwell on it. But you're doing great, keep up the conspiracy theories, you're sure to recruit more morons with it.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
So why would Clinton send in Berger to steal documents from the National Archives? Why would it be so important to remove incriminating evidence before testifying before the 9/11 Commission? The misdemeanor plea was a sign of corruption in Washington D.C...The slap on the wrist Berger got was a sign of the reality that the powerful and rich get away with corruption, in this case corruption covering up Clinton regime incompetence and/or corruption.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You lost on Berger. Give it up. What else do you have? Anything?
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
You believe that a corrupt Justice Dept, full of Clinton era leftovers, giving Berger a misdemeanor, fining him $50,000, plus court costs, plus removing his security clearance, plus him being disbarred, somehow mitigates the fact that Sandy Berger conspired with Clinton to destroy incriminating evidence. You think it is acceptable for the 9/11 investigation to be defrauded and obstructed in their fact finding mission.
So, why did Berger steal and destroy top secret docs?
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose I'm not sure why; but obviously it wasn't that big of a deal since it was only a misdemeanor, slap on the wrist. But it's kinda hard to charge Bush for just being a stupid, lazy president who vacationed for 7 months and ignored every terrorist threat...the people get what they voted for. dumb, dumb, dumb. If McCain won, we'd be in a 3rd war with Iran right now.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Berger stealing top secret documents immediately before testifying in front of the 9/11 Commission was A VERY BIG DEAL. It was buried. There is no possible way to rationalize or defend such criminal behavior. The claims that it was no big deal came from the Berger/Clinton lawyers...Why Berger wasn't imprisoned can only be explained by a corrupted system. Obstruction of justice, especially in the matter of a public investigation regarding 9/11, is a very VERY serious crime.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose you are relentless and hopelessly lost in conspiracy theory land.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Says the guy that claims Sandy Berger stealing documents before testifying in front of the 9/11 Commission is no big deal?...Your word is shit.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
Sandy Bergler:
watch?v=Pu0ailujqmk
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
damon...You are in denial. Sometimes in our lives (I am assuming you are in your 20s by your blind ignorance) that we come to understand that the people whom we highly revered are nothing but scumbags. I hope you wake up from your brainwashing and realize you have been duped...There is a reason why they don't want you watching Fox News, they don't want you to hear any beliefs that counter their beliefs...I'd be pissed at them if I was you...I'd never tell you to close your mind, they do.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose What does age have anything to do with intelligence or wealth of knowledge? There are other ways of hearing both points of view rather than watching people who have an agenda to preach. Believing what Fox News says is equivalent to the brainwashing North Korea does to its people. Fox is the greatest spinner out there; how do you get the other point of view if you just watch Fox?
damoninsky 1 year ago
Damon, I am embarrasing you. I am making you look like a fool, which is appropos...You sit at the feet of an idiot (Ayers) and you become an idiot...Sorta like Obama.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose (says the person who still supports the Bush administration)
damoninsky 1 year ago
WMD were found in Iraq:
"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose The CIA declared there were no WMDs. Just because one person has their own interpretation doesn't make it a fact (kinda like how one climatologist disagreeing with climate change data doesn't make it true). There exists an entire consensus amongst all intelligence agencies. You are living in denial. Suck it up, everything you believed those 8 years were wrong; just admit you made a mistake and move on. It's OK, there are millions of you that voted for those jerks.
damoninsky 1 year ago
Actually poisonous chemicals such as nerve gas were found which where intended to be used as weapons.Last I checked,chemical warfare violates the Geneva Convention rules.Also diseases in container which could be used for the same purpose were also found,again in violation of the Geneva Convention.Short and intermediate range missles were also found and Sadam Hussien was not supposed to have those according to a treaty he signed.
BobReidy 1 year ago
@BobReidy The U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee, in 2008, determined that the administration "Misinterpreted the intelligence and the threat from Iraq". Even if there were some chemicals, the "imminent threat" fear they propagated into the public was FALSE. You miss the point entirely, that Saddam was NEVER A THREAT but used that red herring to get into Iraq for other reasons.
damoninsky 1 year ago
If this is true,I stand corrected.You do admitt Sadam was a bad guy though.However,the US has supported "bad guys" before I will admit.Ex:Marcos,Pinochet,the Sha of Iran and others I cant think of.
BobReidy 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
The U.S. Intelligence Committee was corrupted in 2008 by the Democrat takeover. Chemical, biological and yellow-cake WERE FOUND in Iraq. Case closed...Democrats made the case Saddam was an imminent threat FAR BEFORE Bush did:
/watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Yeah, when Saddam didn't comply with UNSCOM, there was a MULTIlateral agreement to do something about it. So we bombed him for four days, "degrading" any capability he may have of making WMDs. MULTILATERAL. The world agreed. Bush acted ALONE, WITHOUT proof and AGAINST the world's consent...this is a major reason why the world hates us and how his actions have made us LESS SAFE!
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
The multi-lateral (a meaningless freaking term) bombing of Saddam DID NOTHING to degrade his WMD capacity. The DNC just claimed it did to cover their useless asses. Even after the four day bombing the Democrats were claiming Saddam was a grave threat, had WMD capabilities, and had connections to Al Qaeda.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
Bill Ayers is a piece of shit, and so must the narrator of this video be.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose but the 150 million people that voted war mongering republicans into office '00-'08 aren't? How many innocent people were killed under their watch?
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, since when have you liberals (communists in drag) been not the warmongerers? I won't go into foreign liberals (whom you liberals love), lets just stick with American liberals...Do you remember the Democrat wars? Do you remember those incompetent bloodbaths maiming millions, mass murdering millions, and leaving 100s of thousands of families with lost military family members?...Let me remind you: WWI, WW2, Korea and Vietnam.
Iraq and Afghanistan were child's play.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose There's no doubt democrats have been involved in some shit, but WWII was absolutely justified. I made another video (American Imperialism Timeline) that clearly shows American mistakes, not just republicans. I completely disagree for many of our reasons for war; and this video demonstrates this because Ayers was trying to STOP a stupid ass war (started by Dems, exacerbated by Reps); and this last Bush administration had the WORST reasons.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
You say "this last Bush admin had the worst reasons" for war: How so? Every criticism I have seen has been either demolished or disspelled. It wasn't for the oil (we get our oil mostly from Canada and Mexico). It wasn't to avenge his daddy (this is just a lie)...Is there some other hidden agenda I have missed?
We were attacked on 9/11. The first time ever against a civilian target on U.S. soil. Bush inherited Democrat policies of regime change for Iraq.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Isn't it interesting the original operation name to going into Iraq was Operation Iraqi Liberation? You can hear Ari Fleicher say this. Why was Bush trying to get into Iraq only 10 days after being in office?
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, you either lied or were misinformed in your video apology of Ayers. He never expressed regret for his hatred of America and his terrorist actions. He slipped through the cracks due to a legal technicality. He has admitted that he felt like he could have done more (not peacefully) to kill Americans...How you, in good conscience, defend this dirtbag is astounding.
Are you a communist (or some variant of Marxism)?
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose I don't know why this is so hard for people to accept; he says admits that he should have done more because SO many people were being unjustly murdered over in SE Asia. The Weatherman's methods were influential in bringing the Vietnam war to an end; "not peacefully" they might have been but many lives were saved. How can you sit there and say that we should have gone into Iraq? What was the purpose? 100,000 + lives were lost, for what?
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
One more thing: You liberals don't speak for our military. A vast majority of our soldiers that went to Iraq and Afghanistan knew the risks and actually joined after 9/11...Although the war was imperfect, as they will ALWAYS be, the results have been very positive. The Iraqi people (beyond the Baathist fascists and terrorists) are optimistic about their futures and the butcher Saddam is dead. Bush liberated 50,000,000 people, and this is what America is all about.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You are so brainwashed it's scary. Half the country thought Iraq had something to do with 9/11 (due to Bush propaganda of lies); that's why people joined. But what has happened since? Most of those soldiers have no idea why they are there and want to come back. You say "results have been very positive"? HAHAHA. There isn't a single Iraqi citizen that doesn't personally know a friend or family member who has been violently killed. You need to stop watching FOX.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Your party has lied to the world and to America. Before Bush took office the liberals were all absolutely convinced Saddam was our greatest threat. The liberals were all convinced that Saddam had WMD. They liberals were all convinced Saddam had direct ties to Al Qaeda (read the 1998 indictment of Osama Bin Laden online).
watch?v=i87cZ3Og6ts
Now only were the Dems claiming Saddam had WMD, but many other nations made the same claim. Whether he had them or not was irrelevant.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Hayes and Limbaugh FALSELY cited the 1998 bin Laden indictment as proof that Clinton administration had "connected" Iraq, Al Qaeda. You are sadly mistaken, it was the BUSH administration who tried to convince everyone that there was a link with Al Qaeda, hence their case for war. The Bush administration lied, lied, lied. It was BUSH that dropped the ball. He didn't have a single meeting about Osama before 9/11.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, and of all those Iraqis that know someone violently killed during our liberation of the Iraqi people, the greatest amount were killed by either Saddam Hussein, his fascist party, or foreign terrorists...You are traitor, Damon, just like Bill Ayers.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Saddam was never committing genocide (as you stated earlier). He definitely was a fascist dick head that should have been removed from power, but NOT unilaterally and NOT under false pretenses (link with Al Qaeda and WMDs). He was nowhere near the worst dictator around (ie: Bugabe or Kim Jong Il); but we don't take those guys out, why not? Because they don't have any valuable resources (OIL).
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Saddam did commit genocide. Some say over a million died due to multi-lateral UN sanctions via starvation. Actual mass graves were found, which you didn't see because you don't have a curious mind. Naturally the media buried the mass graves story as it leant more weight behind the liberation of the Iraqi people...We are America, we don't need to get the approval of worldwide dirrtbags to make a decision. Many countries opposed our operation because of their Iraqi oil contracts.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You're right, it was Clinton/Albright's influence in implementing those multilateral sanctions. You obviously don't have a clue of the death and destruction we have caused to their culture the last 7 years; you should look into what the people over there are saying instead of American Right pundits. I'm sorry you don't believe in a democratic world government and prefer to be a super power that should do whatever it wants. Most countries opposed due to insufficient evidence.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky, @mulhollanddose,
You haven't much credibility Damon. Your ideology, aside from Islam, has been the greatest evil mankind has ever seen. In the last 100 years over 100,000,000 were killed in the name of socialism. It is oppressive everywhere it is attempted, and for some reason blind fools such as yourself want to give in one more whirl, as if history will miraculously not repeat itself this time.
The Iraqi people are no longer under the brutal iron boot of Saddam Hussein.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You are terribly misinformed, millions were killed in the name of RELIGION (not just Islam); And it wasn't Socialism that killed those people, it was NATIONAL Socialism; big flippin difference! Currently, almost every country has universal Health Care, where is all the killing in Canada, Europe and S. America?
I'd say religion is "the greatest evil mankind has ever seen."
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Bush inherited 9/11 from the Democrat party. It is a little suspicious that Clinton had his National Security Adviser conspire to destroy top-secret documents sensitive to their failed policy regarding Iraq and terrorism...Why do your conspiracy fruitcake buddies ever consider that?...You probably didn't know Sandy Berger entered the National Archives on multiple occasions and removed and destroyed evidence before testifying before the 9/11 Commission.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose What is your source on Clinton destroying "top-secret documents"? I have never heard of this, where is your evidence? Even if this is true, Bush did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING his first 8 months in office regarding BinLaden (except take the longest vacation in presidential history) even though he was given multiple warnings terrorist strikes. You should really read Paul O'Neil or Richard Clark's book about this time period.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Why should I read Richard Clark's book. He was in charge of terrorist policy and 9/11 happened? Richard Clark okayed the Bin Laden's flying out of the country...Bush inherited a buried terrorist problem and by the time they realized the problems it was too late. Bush was given NO warnings other than the most common warnings such as "terrorists want to attack us", which is always true.
Clinton had Sandy Berger steal top-secret documents before testifying before the 9/11 Commis.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose "No warnings"??? Are you kidding me? I just found this site titled The White House had (at least ) 28 Advanced Intelligence Warnings Prior to 9/11. You may want to READ Clark's book (don't forget about O'Neil too). Clark was trying to convince the administration to break up Al Qaeda immediately; all the while Rice/Bush sat on their damn hands. You're lack of knowledge or refusal to accept knowledge is embarrassing.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose "No warnings"??? Are you kidding me? I just found this site titled The White House had (at least ) 28 Advanced Intelligence Warnings Prior to 9/11. You may want to READ Clark's book (don't forget about O'Neil too). Clark was trying to convince the administration to break up Al Qaeda immediately; all the while Rice/Bush sat on their damn hands. You're lack of knowledge or refusal to accept knowledge is embarrassing.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
You are being a fool, Damon. The Clinton Administration did NOTHING to capture or kill Bin Laden. He had more than one chance to do so. He issued a bunch of useless PDBs that said things like "terrorists want to attack us." This was nothing new or unique. Bush had no reason to believe that this terrorist problem was so great as he claimed he had it under control...Seven months later we are bombed. We find out Sandy Berger was stealing documents before the 9/11 Commission...2+2=4
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose See, you continue to say this yet not having read Clark's or O'Neil's book. Clinton did everything he could to stop BinLaden, but his leads were fabricated. He beefed up military and intelligence over there beyond belief (so much evidence of this). Yet look at what Bush and Condi did! Vacation and No-bid energy contracts. READ CLARK'S and O'NEIL'S BOOK!
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Clarke went into full cover his ass mode after 9/11. He wrote a book to make money off of his and Bill Clinton's gross negligence...According to the man in charge of capturing/killing Bin Laden, Bill Clinton is a lying POS, and Clinton refused to kill Bin Laden when he had a multitude of chances...Fast forward to the 9/11 Commission when Clinton sent Berger into the National Archives to destroy memos between Clinton and Richard Clarke.
Damon, you are so misinformed.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You keep on saying the same lies that Clinton had these chances to kill Bin Laden. This is a repeated lie Fox and Friends said over and over again until they finally stopped because it was totally debunked. Just because you say a lie a million times, doesn't make it true. Regarding those Berger memos you keep on referring to, that's a conspiracy theory. Only the far right media reported that. An investigation proved nothing was destroyed.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Richard Clarke was the one common theme in the Clinton and Bush Administrations. It makes sense that he would write a book blaming other people. Democrats like Richard Clarke always blame other people when they screw up...If Richard Clarke did his job (WHICH HE DIDN'T) we wouldn't have been attacked...Unfortunately Clinton failed to kill or capture Bin Laden on multiple occasions.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Clark's job was to report to the president and staff on what they should do. There is documentation after documentation of Clark trying to get them to move on Al Qaeda without a budge from the greedy Bush administration. Please provide proof of these "multiple occasions" by citing legitimate media sources (and NOT your right-wing conspiracy fanatic ones).
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Guess whose documents Clinton sent Sandy Berger in to steal? Richard Clarke's...Interesting that Richard Clarke would later get dismissed (fired) and then write a book blaming Bush, isn't it?...Thankfully George Bush was too nice of a man to hang Clarke, Berger and Clinton out to dry, as he should have.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose HAHAHA! I love how you can totally disregard everything Clark says simply because he worked with a Democratic president. I also love Conodleezza Rice's memo "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S." yet thought nothing of it. How can you sit there and denounce Clinton when Bush vacationed for 4/8 months? Your account of history is alarmingly nebulous.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
That PDB "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S." was buried in a mountain of memos. Not only was it not taken seriously by the Clinton Administration, but it said nothing. It didn't state anything new. I am sure Clinton left the country, the White House not only vandalized, in disarray. Clinton and Richard Clarke kicked the can forward, buried it, and then pretended as if the Clinton Administration had nothing to do with it...In comes Sandy Berger to destroy documents.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose What are you talking about? That memo was given to the BUSH administration. And it wasn't buried, Condi knew it from heart, she was well aware of it. The Clinton vandalizing the White House...HAHAHA, you sure love your republican lies don't you. Please, I ask you again to provide your source of evidence (from a credible source, not your Fox News friends).
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
See, Damon. You are brainwashed. You have been mind controlled to dismiss anything that doesn't fit in to your brainwashing. Fox News is about the closest thing to objective journalism the world has. The rest are just DNC propaganda machines...The vandalizim of the White House by the Clinton regime has been reported and corroborated. Everything from stealing memorbilia, to tearing out the "W" keys from the White House keyboards, to general destruction of public property.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose HOLY SHIT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Are you serious? You can't be...really? You just said Fox is "objective" and consider it to be the best in the world? It's not even real 'news'! But just a bunch of idiots believing the same thing and saying the same thing.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
You clearly don't watch Fox, you just get your news from uber-leftist propaganda rags. I watch Fox for the left v right debate. Something you RARELY see anywhere else...The rest of the mainstream media is just a propaganda arm of the DNC.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose I definitely don't watch Fox any more. It's too disturbing, it reminds me of North Korean propaganda. The Left vs Right debate? You mean the 4 conservatives vs 1 blue-dog? That doesn't count. NPR at least picks out the 2 most experienced people to debate/discuss a matter (senators, ambassadors, professors, etc...); Fox has religious nuts.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, expecting the liberal media (whom you consider reputable) to spend more than a passing mention on anything destructive to the Democrat party is like expecting Josef Goebbels to talk trash on Adolph Hitler...I admit it is hard to find the establishment (read: liberal) media destroying the lies of Democrats, which illustrates how they are nothing more than a liberal whorehouse...That said, I don't need Fox to tell me what the Democrats said themselves.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Are you kidding? The Dems crap on each other all the time! They can't agree on anything and are always bashing each other; hence the whole reason why Obama can't pass anything he wants. Half the Dems are corporate owned (just like the Reps); your little book is a waste of time to refute.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Really Damon? Are you F'n serious? You pretend as if life was better under Saddam Hussein than the evil George Bush. Do you realize how asinine that is? You don't realize it do you? You are so entirely invested in the liberal propaganda that you can't accept that the liberation of the Iraqi people was at the very least a net positive for the Iraqi people (except of course the Baathist fascists).
Google "Saddam mass graves", "Iraqi rape rooms, "Saddam children prison."
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose I'm only repeating what the Iraqi citizens are repeating (the ones that are still alive that is). I really can't say how much better life is over there, only they can, and from what many have claimed, is that live was better for them under Saddam than this occupation. This isn't "liberal propaganda", this is basic journalism...just read what many of them have to say! Again, there's no doubt he was an evil Dictator, but why not take down Mugabe or Kim Jong Il?
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
At the most liberal estimates (not the horseshit you have probably ingested) the number of casualties in Iraq are around 120,000. Most of those were killed by Iraqis and Islamic terrorists...This is a far cry from the way FDR carpet bombed civilians in Germany...From all reports the Iraqi people are VERY optimistic about their future and they are no longer under an oppressive brutal dictator.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose I have always stated 100,000 Iraqis killed (so don't presume I'm overestimating). Did you know there was never a known suicide bomber case in Iraq until we invaded??? Remember, it was our invasion that created this chaos, not just random civil/terrorist war fighting. After nearly a decade of unbelievable death and chaos in their country, I'm sure people have hope and are optimistic of the future (how could they get any worse?).
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Before we invaded Iraq suicide bombers weren't the problem, Saddam was. Did you do that search on mass graves like I asked you to, or did you bury your fingers in your ears and loudly say "NA NA NA NA NA NA!!!" to block out reality?...If there was a suicide bomber in Iraq, he would have been killed...Did you know that Saddam harbored Abu Nidal and Abu Abbas???...That is the whole point -- Saddam was funding (Palestinian suicide bombers) and harboring terrorists...Truth hurts?
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Dude, I know about the mass graves, I never denied it nor the fact that Saddam was utter shit. Sorry, your "truth" is so freaking skewed it's painful. There was absolutely NO link with Al Qaeda and NO WMDs (the entire case for war) ever found. The Bush administration milked every shred of possible evidence to propagate his intentions on invading (ie. listening to Chalabi), while disregarding the PLETHORA of intel that countered it. O-I-L.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
No links between Saddam and Al Qaeda? Well Clinton and his brightest and best were making that claim before Bush took office, including your book writing hero Richard Clarke. I have pointed you to Clinton's 1998 indictment of Osama where he links Osama with Saddam.
WMD were one of many convincing justifications for bringing Saddam to justice and liberate his people. Bush just repeated the Democrat party's (including Clarke) claims Saddam had WMD.
Stay in denial if you must.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose You are embarrassing yourself every time you write. No serious person or intellectual believes there is still a link between Saddam and Al Qaeda or WMDs. These were BUSH's fabricated cases for war, and they have been debunked repeatedly. Clinton had NOTHING to do with this (apart from boosting up military in preparation).
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Damon, you are a classic statist. It is not that you are too stupid to comprehend the facts, it is that you refuse to. In classic statist form you claim other people are the ignorant ones for not stumbling blindly along with you...I am going to attempt to get through your brainwashing one last time...Bush fabricated nothing regarding the lead up to the liberation of the Iraqi people. It was the Democrat party that first claimed Saddam had WMD and had connections to Al Qaeda.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose Sorry, you are incorrect. I refuse to except YOUR facts, because YOUR facts are FOX NEWS facts, which AREN'T facts; but only snippets of the truth. I get my info from actual journalistic media (BBC, WSJ, NPR, Democracy Now, NY Times). Fox isn't "News", it's people with opinions. They even admit it. Watch Jon Stewart's For Fox Sake (it's hilarious).
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Precisely which Fox News facts have I stated that are inherently wrong?...I have destroyed you in this debate and your best rebuttal is to attack Fox.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose If all you are going to do is repeat Fox rhetoric without citing legitimate journals/media; the conversation ends. It's like asking a religious person for evidence of a god and they can only point to their book; that doesn't prove anything.
1. Al Qaeda + Saddam link WRONG.
2. WMDs + Saddam WRONG
3. Sandy Berger destroys docs WRONG
4. Not crediting Clarke or O'Neil WRONG
5. Clinton had BinLaden WRONG
6. Fox is "objective" WRONGO BONGO
7. Ayers to kill 25 million WRONG
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
1. Al Qaeda + Saddam link -- Clinton's assertion
2. WMD + Saddam link -- Democrat assertion and worldwide belief
3. Sandy Berger destroyed docs (confessed) -- Beyond a shadow of a doubt
4. Clarke and O'Neill were both incompetent and butthurt rejects.
5. Clinton had Bin Laden -- So says the Sudan and Clinton himself
6. Fox is "objective" -- "Wrong" is your opinion and nothing more
7. Ayers to kill 25 million -- It was a final solution of the Weather Underground
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose
OK, I'm sick of all of these points being made without proper evidence. I'd prefer to stick to one subject at a time with as much evidence as possible. I could tear you apart on each of these topics, but considering you're continuing to state that Fox is the most objective news source in the world; all I should have to do is prove to you that it's completely biased, and that will save a heap of time refuting your other fallacious claims.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
I reiterate. You have magically dismissed everything I have said because you think that anything that challenges you is immediately wrong and Fox related. As if Fox doesn't report facts...Please illustrate, or point to, one Fox news lie that I offered as evidence. You dismissed the Berger crimes as having origination in Fox News, then I offered the liberal Washington Post, and then you went silent.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose I dismiss Fox facts because they only report a tiny portion that meets their agenda, leaving out all of the other facts. So when you reiterate that little portion, you entirely miss the big picture. Again, they claimed over and over that Berger was suspected of destroying docs, saying it so many times that their idiot audience believes it to be true; however nothing was ever destroyed. Your WP quote didn't prove anything.
damoninsky 1 year ago
@damoninsky,
Washington Post
"Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, a former White House national security adviser, plans to plead guilty to a misdemeanor, and will acknowledge intentionally removing and destroying copies of a classified document about the Clinton administration's record on terrorism."
For some unknown reason Bush forgave Berger and didn't make crucify him in the media and put him in prison. The 9/11 Commission NEVER asked why he stole and destroyed top-secret RICHARD CLARKE docs.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
Richard Clarke NEVER mentioned it.
mulhollanddose 1 year ago
@mulhollanddose
William Ayers is a scumbag traitor and deserves to die. He declared war on the same country that now enables his freedom of speech.... he makes money off the system he declares evil. He represents EVERYTHING wrong with the "anti-war" Socialist elements of the Baby-Boom generation. He has NO business teaching kids and deserves nothing less than to get his head bashed in until his cranium implodes and he dies in the street in a pool of his own blood.
PatriotHammer 1 year ago
That's because it's an irrelevant, petty point regarding how Bush did NOTHING before 9/11. Clinton at least was beefing up military and discussing Bin Laden; Bush did not a damn thing. How can you sit there and blame Clinton when he never had clear intel on where Bin Laden was? At least he was TRYING to do something. Bush got his no-bid energy policy going though.