I'm studying medicine now in my high school (biomedical ethics), and Female Circumcision/mutilation is proven to have no real medical benefits for the patients. Actually, there are ZERO medical benefits for Female Circumcision/mutilation. Except that it will keep girls chaste..which is more for the peace of mind than of medical benefit.-__-
wow.... make circumcision: okay... but female: hell no. i mean dang ppl if ur gonna do it then freaken use pain killers. i aint against ur beliefe, but know what ur freeking doing! dont just start cutting off body parts with out proper equiptment. goodness ppl... b smart about the stupid sh++ u do.
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in those countries instead of thinking their daughters future for education better life and progress they just think of marrying them as soon as possible and make them housewives and make children! the story continues for years! you are just so unlucky if you are born in savage culture!
How ignorant this human can be!? what a savage way of thinking! if woman has suffered its just because Women themselves havent got their right! they all think for the sake of Guys! that is SICK.
I am a Muslim and i had no clue that anything like this was possible let alone done in the Islamic culture, the Qur'an was written in 610CE & does not state for people to do such things to women, it teaches the same thing a bible does about adultery, theft and lying...for those of you to solely blame one culture and it religion on something as horrid as this is not right also i did some research and mgf was not preformed until 2000 years ago,
@ballm0use ...yeah what about the tests hilter did on people, the things americans did on people, remember slavery? oh yeah i saw this on tyra banks show, apparently muslims are not the only religion that does this, and get your facts straight, am a muslim, but there are several difference between bosnian, and pakistan, iraq,etc... just like christains and catholics, same exact thing, just a little itty bitty difference, both that little difference can make everyone hate on one religion.
@nibrahimovic19 nibrahimovic, i guess you are bosnian? you are right in saying that the quran does not speak about mutilation.. but islam is the only monotheistic/world religion where its mainstream teachigns have carried it on and allowed it for millenia now. there is a hadith of prophet mohammed not stopping a "circumcision"/mutilation and saying to cut "as little as possible, for the benefit of the girl and the husband". so if you believe this hadith (whcih many did over the
centuries) you'll say its sunna to do so (but to cut little). it is an african practice over millenia most likely and over many different faiths. egypt is an african country, with an arabic culture but also with many elements and ethnic minorities of african culture. it is not by coincidence i think that the most mutilating form of fgm is called "pharaonic circumcision" where practically all female genitalia is cut off. so ya unfortunately there is some reference in islamic sources
I am so sick of hearing about talking snakes and all of this superhero worship shit. I am so happy that my children will not have to suffer from any mutilation or any of this bullshit.
@ballm0use actually mainstream islam does not allow you to get a tattoo, piercing not even to pluck your eyebrows (!) not to alter gods creation.. it is beyond my understanding why so many scholars dedicate ridiculous amounts of energy to banning eyebrow pluckin and tattoos citing long lists of hadiths for it - but so relatively little energy goes in a simple analogy not to alter gods creation by cutting off body parts! what alters it more some ink or mutilation?!
what a fkn backward practice. Islam is nothing but a cult that preaches violence and hatered. Thiscult is designed to brainwash young men into believing that they are superior to women. As for the Quoraan, I would not call it Holy. Muzzies get yourself some brains and stop torturing young women.
what a fkn backward practice. Islam is nothing but a cult that preaches violence and hatered. Thiscult is designed to brainwash young men into believing that they are superior to women. As for the Quoraan, I would not call it Holy. Muzzies get yourself some brains and stop torturing young women.
This totally destroys the ability of a woman's body to properly function during the act of sex making it a very unpleasant experience. Its anything but of God, and goes against the very intended design of the creator.
These women do not love their children. How could you do that to your child? I'm at awe with this and in my own culture where people around me decide to hurt young boys in the same manner in the name of "religion."
I agree that this practice needs to end, as a man the majority of my sexual pleasure comes from pleasuring my partner through oral sex and this practice makes it impossible to pleasure a woman orally
They circumcise them because they're insecure and would rather make sure she gets no pleasure, and thus 'wont cheat'. They COULD become good husbands and satisfy their wives' emotional and physical needs, but thats probably too difficult compared to mutilating them.
.. why are people comparing the removal of the clitoris to the removal of the foreskin? Cutting the clitoris, is like cutting the entire penis off. Women cannot experience arousal or be sexually satisfied. But if you remove the foreskin, men are still able to be aroused and experience sexual pleasure. Come on people.
the body was made the way god intended so i dont kno why men think its ok to mutilate a womans body, its about suppression and control of women. and the women are brainwashed to think that its wat they have to do. ppl r fucked
Muhammad said not to cut too much off which means he allowed to take the hood that covers the clitoris off. The hood is like the male foreskin. Women can still have pleasure with a missing hood but she can't get a cool hood piercing.
Men's foreskin can get dirty with smegham if he doesn't keep it clean and so in the days before everyone bathed daily they wanted to take all the foreskins off. I don't think women get the same health concerns so no real reason to remove the hood.
Because men know the anger and outrage you feel when you hear about this. We know on some level, we will receive flak from this, something we had nothing to do with. (referring of course, to men and women in other countries)
All im saying is make sure you know where the blame lies.
Why is it in every western movie, show, or commercial the man is always portraid as a fool. So here it is, the reason I can't say anything about that, because worse things are happeneing to women somewhere else in the world, that not too surprisingly, "educated" women do pretty much nothing about. (You want to earn another dollar an hour? Fine. Just don't call yourself a femenist when you know this crap is going on.) My point is, It isnt a cruade of the phalic.
The reason why men comment on this is because anytime some moron does crap like this men who had nothing to do with it still get the blame and get labled. We have to say something because the shame is immense, we need to make it look at least somehow men don't have it "So much easier" as the common femenist phrase goes. I will say it now. I am a man, I will never accept a woman in charge and I am ashamed that this goes on. I am ashamed that I can't stop it. But that doesnt mean I'm a femenist.
The foreskin contains over 20,000 nerve endings and is analogous to the female clitoris according to the British Medical Journal and others. I know this video is exclusive to FGM, but I only brought it up because the top comments are full of ignorant drivel and typical cultural babble here in the U.S.
@DJacqu8351 I think they believe that by cutting off the source of pleasure you also cut off the woman's potential to cheat thus the man can leave the house and feel his wife is not shaming him by having an orgy with everyone because she won't want to have sex. It reduces her to the status of property, like castrating your slave to keep him from doing aggressive things like running away or stealing your property
@ChannelingusXIV This is a crime against humamity and women everywhere. Thanks for informing me, and I plan to become more fully informed and become involved in some :)
@ChannelingusXIV this is disgusting women are not objects. i mean "the man might get her circumcised on the wedding night" she's not a bloody dog eugh!
male genital mutilation is worse because it happens every day in a big minority of western countries. stop it now! you are born this way for a reason! you think nature made a mistake?
being a male, I have to say you're a shameless misogynist to compare the horrors of FGM to male circumcision, which obviously shouldn't be done too, but is nowhere near as harmful, painful and hardly robs you of your sexuality, unlike the mutilation of girls
@Ramironin circumcision is a human rights violation, male or female. I ask you to please look it up. Both practises are extremely cruel. The foreskin contains an unusually high concentration of nerves and amputation is extremely painful too (it is not because it's a baby that it is not). Removal of the foreskin prevents a full erection for the rest of your life. Both male and female practices were made to reduce sexual pleasure.
@artsHscience trust me your member could be longer. The foreskin compensates the length, that is its function, apart from giving a pleasant gliding motion on the male equivalent of the clitoris, increasing sexual satisfaction. That is why so many men go for surgery for restoration of the foreskin.
Islam has beeen a curce upon humanity ,this is what happens when people follow a false prophet . Jesus christ said ;"beware of false prophets you will recocnize them by their fruits and what are the fruits of islam ??
This is the Culture of their country not Islam. This tradition existed before Islam came. Islam tried to stop this sick torment on women but these people never let go & brought to Muslims. They slandered Islam for their old ugly culture. Islam does not teach this type of tradition. You sick people stop accusing of Islam for your ignorance. I hate these sick Arabs. They never will stop accusing Islam for their sick tradition. God brought Islam for them to stop their sick culture.
الختان هي ابشع جريمة في حق الفتاة وعقوبتها في اوروبا هي ٢٠ عاما من السجن . لو كانت هناك حكومة في مصر تهتم بالمصريين لكانت تللك الجريمة اختفت من عشرات السنين. يجب ان تكون عقوبة هذه الجريمة هي الاعدام لانهم قتلوا الفتاة وكل احساسها الجنسي وهي جريمة ابشع من الاغتصاب لان اثرها يستمر حتي الموت
just to clear the air it is not a part of a religion belief. I'm muslim and in Koran or any Holy text there is no text written telling women to do these and this is purely cultural.
Even some argued that Muhammad (may peace be upon him) our prophet said that it should only be for male.
It's good to hear that Islam doesn't promote female "circumcision," but if Muhammad indeed thought it should be only for men, well, I don't respect that either. There is absolutely no point to circumcision. Why inflict the pain, why mutilate a God-given body, why take away a piece of flesh that provides a little extra pleasure?
@arc27 Muhammad (may peace be upon him) said that it is better cut for men because it is said that the foreskin on the male's genitals keep bacterias that could harm his health and overall cleanliness. However, I believe he inflicted as a sunnah and it is necessary in those times where proper hygienic tools are not available. It is only recommended so to promote hygiene. Besides all my brothers are circumcised and with all the technology, he said he could barely feel it.
@mrsnbross hygiene is a cheap excuse to justify what has happened to us in the past. armpits need washing, no cutting there. teeth need brushing, we don't rip those out. nature provides us with baby boys and girls in this way for a reason. saying that nature is flawed is a bold statement. watch a circumcision of a baby boy and you will know.
Here is what I wonder, if you alter the clitoris of a woman, you alter her ability to feel pleasure.... then... what good is it for the man if he wants only a wife that has no clitoris.... The way I understand male sexuality, is that most men want to be "good in bed", and being good at it involves getting your female partner / wife an orgasm.
I just don't get this female mutilation practice....
I don't get it either. The only thing I can conclude is that societies that perform it don't think it's important that women get to have as much pleasure during sex as men get. Plain and simple inequality.
PLEASE THUMBS UP THIS SO FUTURE READERS CAN GET THE INFO THEY NEED TO HELP. If you would like to know more about this horrible horriffic inhumane and barbaric act then you should visit the Desert Flower foundation which you can google. The book and film will give you a true account of this sadistic process and show you how you can help put a stop to it. It happens all over the world, everyday
I wonder if Iman, David Bowie''s beautiful, super model and Somolian (African) wife, was circumsized? If so, I wonder why she doesn't speak against it..
I always thought a man, a sensual man, enjoyed pleasing his woman.. It makes the man feel good to see his lover pleased. I also cannot begin to imagine the pain involved..
@TheAlysheba Go to the desert flower foundation. Waris dire is a famous model and is fighting this act as it happens all over the world. Estimates say that around 2'000 young girls endure this act in the UK every year. You can get lots more info on the foundation's website. Hope that helps.
@roush26 go read up on a males foreskin,, u dont kno what shit ur talkin about,,, alot of nerve endings are cut off with it, along with vain, and it makes the head of the penis more sensitive, since its protected most of the time, untill its time for sex, which causes the skin to go back,, sooo do some research dude ,, many people are against male circumcision also
@JOKAWILD26 well MY foreskin is a source of pain, like touching an open wound, and it makes the head of the penis feel like an open wound too, getting a descent blowjob is hard cuz it makes it more odorous and distasteful, i have to clean it everyday in the shower to get the smell out and its like a deoderant, its only good for a few hours, age reduces sensitivity anyway
@roush26 well sounds like u need to see a doctor, cuz that aint normal at all,,, i dont have none of those problems, with mine, ,, so your shit must be fucked up, forrealz
@JOKAWILD26 overly sensitive and bad odor r common, thats y they say circumcision is good, u and i r not here to see who's telling the truth nor do i wanna look n smell ur junk so....someone is in denial, age reduces sensitivty, so the "open wound" feeling is gone, n if u rub the inner foreskin wit ur finger back in forth, i promise u i does not feel good, do it enough n it will feel like ur rubbing a cut is wat im saying
@roush26 u need to see a doctor seriously dude,, becouse first off having ODER is not common,, its not common for a vagina to have oder iether,, so if you have an oder on your penis,, u need to see a doctor, along with if you say it hurts u & shit,, cuz my dick is just fine, i never have no Pain on my dick at all, i dont have none of those problems u have, & if i did, i WOULD go to the doctor and tell him whats up,, so i suggest u go to the doctor,, i dont wanna hear no more tho, tell the doc
couldnt have said it better myself...a lot of idiots excuse this sick horrid "tradition" by using dumb excuses that have nothing to do with the problem itself
"male circumcision is removal of foreskin that serves no value in procreation or pleasure"
Umm... no. Wrong. The foreskin contains nerve endings that contribute to pleasure. I don't know from personal experience because my parents, IGNORANTLY, had me circumcised, but I've read about the subject.
@roush26 you dumb mouse....what you dont kniow is older than you are....im sure alot people reading this are fat as fuck....its no problem to them because its ok to be a big fat truck in our america but its a damn shame elsewhere....shut ur mouth you dumb american moue
@roush26 But don't forget, if this is about eliminating pleasure for women then its ignorant to do this procedure. What about the g spot? They can't get rid of that. The clitoris isn't the only way a woman can feel pleasure, but yes this is still unacceptable.
@roush26 It's not okay to remove any part of a woman's genitals. I was not trying to imply that it was okay just because I said that there are other forms of pleasure for a woman. Sorry if I was unclear on where I stand with this issue. What I meant was that there are alterior motives to the reason behind doing this to women other than "taking pleasure away from women."
@jimdraven4 actually the g spot is just a mythical fairytale. there is no basis in reality for this claim and there never has been. the clitoris is a very concrete part of the female anatomy. sorry, but truth is truth.
@TheHuntress144 I understand. Still, my girlfriend is the one that posted the original comment. I am just supporting her and have discussed with her the dispelling of the g spot rumor. Yet, I am firm on the notion that taking any part from a woman is simply unacceptable.
@roush26 The foreskin is actually critical to protection and pleasure. It serves the same purpose as the clitoral hood. In case you didn't realize this, amputation of the clitoral hood is the most common form of FGM. The main difference is that the foreskin contains more nerve ending than the clitoral hood and glans clitoris combined. Removing part of someone's genitals without their consent is wrong; it shouldn't matter whether the victim is male or female.
@roush26 The area where the penile skin meets the glans is the inner foreskin. It is mucosal tissue and is very sensitive. The frenulum is also highly erogenous. Some or all of the frenulum is removed during circumcision. The most sensitive part of the intact penis is the transitional area between inner and outer foreskin. This area is always lost due to circumcision. Circumcision removes the most sensitive parts of the penis and impacts the functions of the foreskin--both protective and sexual.
@roush26 Men are born with several G spots: The Lips of the Foreskin (prepucial orifice), Frenar Band Ridged Mucosa (located on the foreskin's inner lining), the frenulum (like the one under your tongue), and the Glans Penis. Circumcision of the male removes the foreskin and very often the frenulum. It also impairs a man's ability to lubricate on his own causing the Glans to keretinze. Foreskin and Frenulum: Fine touch sensation; Glans Penis: Pressure sensation
@secretp101 You've got it all wrong. This issue is about genital mutilation. Both males and females are suffering from it. I care about the women. But you don't seem to care about the men. That would make you sexist. How dare you think that a vagina is more important than a penis?! They deserve equal consideration.
@secretp101 So you think FGM is bad, but you won't acknowledge that MGM is a worse problem in the USA? This isn't about dividing genital mutilation along male and female gender lines, it should be about protecting everyone.
@utoobmark Since male MGM is legal in the US, why not introduce large scale FGM that involves amputation of the clitoral hood? It would be covered by health insurance and performed in a sterile surgical environment with the supervision of trained medical professionals. Currently, women do not have as many surgical rights as men as cosmetic genital surgery on infant girls is illegal in the US.
@secretp101 Yes, and I certainly feel sympathy for the women subjected to FGM everywhere. But a very large portion of the Youtube audience lives in the US. If they see this video it is important for them to remember what goes on in their own country.
@secretp101 I'm confused why it should matter if someone talks about a penis or a clit. I am a female and I refuse to go so far as to only acknowledge injustices done to my own gender and deny the suffering of others. Equal rights. Genitals are being mutilated and it is wrong. Why do people get bent out of shape if you're an inny versus an outty? Both genders are being abused and it's wrong. Stop fighting amongst ourselves and take down the idiots who are doing this.
Lol. How about chopping their balls off for being cowards? Or chop off their extra "nose" for being so nosy going into female's "business". Maybe females should look at males one day and go "Hmm, they have an extra nose", and take out a saw or something.
I don't believe the lady at the end that says they perform the act differently now. I feel that is perhaps not an outright lie, but a deception, I DON'T believe they use anethesia on every little girl having this done. I don't believe there are enough doctors to do so, and I think the utensils they use are still old and painful. I honestly don't think the people that perform this barbaric cruel act on innocent little girls really care because they are self righteous in the name of their religion
only absent minded Arabs that still think through those lines and afair the world is changing around them at faster rate, because of some women sicking and pursuing education outside the country, its evident already in some areas of closet minded Arabs that want to deny opportunities for rights to improve oneself and that's a crime as women.
END ALL GENITAL MUTILATION OF BOYS AND GIRLS NOW! More and more parents in the United States are making the right decision to keep their sons intact - NOT circumcising (70% as of 2010.) Female genital mutilation is already illegal in United States.
Most muslims have never heard about female circumcision, elhamdulillah I am a muslim female and like most I didn't get mutilated!!! accourding to a hadith, mutilating a vagina is even against islam!
FGM IS AGAINST THE RELIGION, HUMAN RIGHTS AND A CRIME. everybody saying something else is just in desperate need of education.
@yanniskusogaki well, I don't have a penis to understand weather and how circumcision harms a male lol. I have never heard a guy complaining about his circumcision, but to be honest I haven't talked to a lot about this topic ;))) so what's your opinion?
@secretp101 Hahaha,that's true.Well it does hurt the baby,that's for sure.And what they cut off is there for a reason (keeping it moist and clean from outside stuff,same as the female labia majora).They did it back in the day because of poor hygiene.They wouldn't wash so in time it would get infected and close up causing problems.Plus it contains thousands of nerve endings,if you cut it off you take a big part of the feel away and sex becomes duller for the man.So I think it should stop.
@yanniskusogaki I think you are right, but the reason why it didn't get banned or considered as a crime is that unlike fgm it is a religious must for jews and muslims. plus if you life in a society where everyone is circumcised you get teased by other boys if you don't get it done. that's why my brother who didn't get circumcised until the age of 14 or 15 got to a hospital on his own an got it done, because he was just fed up with being teased and thought he had to do his duty lol..
@yanniskusogaki so, yeah I think we should wait until the person is old enough to decide on his own. that way he would keep his integrity over his body. but I know that jews have to do it to newborns.. so religious people unfortunately will never stop.
@secretp101 I'm not particularly in favor of male circumcision either, but male circumcision isn't harmful. It causes pain to the baby and MAY change the sexual experience as an adult slightly. Female circumcision on the other hand is often done when the child is older and it's more painful and memorable, and usually leaves them totally unable to enjoy sexual relations. It's not a religious practice either, it's about control. A woman who doesn't enjoy sex won't cheat. So very wrong.
@hzuiel Male circumcision is intrinsically harmful. It involves cutting healthy functional tissue and ripping off and amputating protective erogenous skin. It removes thousands of nerve-endings (much more than FGM) and a large amount of penile skin. And this is to say nothing of the botched jobs or the ones that result in death.
You cannot say that it "May change the sexual experience as an adult slightly" because you don't know. You cannot say it is more painful for an older child either.
@smokydave It's not hillarious at all. The male foreskin contains 20.000 nerve-endings. The female clitoris contains 8000. The foreskin comprises an area greater than the clitoris - more tissue and more nerve-endings and more blood-vessels are removed in male circumcision. There are of course different types of female circumcision; those removing the clitoris don't usually remove the whole clitoris but rather a part of the clitoris or the glans clitoris.
@endofscene That is completely wrong, there are no facts to back up, nor any way to convince me that male circumcision removes more nerve endings than female circumcision that often involves cutting the clitoris off, along with the labia majora. It may not be preferable, but the fact is that male circumcision unless it's carried out by a blind man, should leave the child capable of enjoying sex and achieving orgasm 99.99% of the time. Female circumcision, not so much.
@hzuiel This is so false. Females who have their clitoris cut off can still have G-spot orgasms 99.99% of the time. Most circumcised women report that they still enjoy sex. However, this does not in any way make female circumcision acceptable. Male circumcision is not acceptable at all. It is still a heinous violation of a boy's body. The fact that a circumcised man can still orgasm is irrelevant to the gross human rights violation that was perpetrated against him.
@utoobmark If you know anything about sexuality in humans you'd know that even without factoring in female circumcision, it's still nowhere near 99.99% of women that can achieve orgasm through penetration only. Women vary a LOT, and many women never achieve an orgasm in their entire life, so you add in outright mutiliation of their genitals and it makes that even more likely.
And when I think of a heinous or gross violation of human rights, circumcision is not the first thing that pops into my
@utoobmark mind. I'm a man, and I have a penis too, but i'm sorry, guys getting all bent out of shape about this aren't being realistic. An entire nation of people(israel) and most countries that have ever been under the influence of christianity have practiced circumcision and they've still had sex, made babies, and enjoyed themselves. Foreskin or no foreskin, the vast majority of guys still put their dicks in places and enjoy themselves, you're living in a fantasy land if you think otherwise.
@utoobmark And this is coming from someone who doesn't believe in circumcision and wouldn't chose it for his children. However that's me personally, I'm not going to worry about someone else choosing it for their child because I can be reasonably sure that the child isn't going to suffer as a result of it. Something may be different, but even that is conjecture because the only people who really know are late in life jews that got circumcised AFTER they'd been sexually active already.
@utoobmark Anyone who is either uncircumcised or circumcised has no clue what the difference would be. If you're currently circumcised you have no idea whether or not you'd have been better off with a foreskin. I have one, and I can tell you it's not the greatest thing ever. Probably the only thing it does for me is make it easier to jerk off without lotion. There isn't even a common consensus among doctors about male circumcision and it's effects.
@hzuiel It is a man's right to have a foreskin. Nobody has the right to take it away from his body without consent, not parents or doctors. It doesn't matter whether you personally believe it affects his sexual pleasure or not.
@hzuiel "No facts to back up, nor any way to convince me..". Have you done any research on the subject? And are you saying that even if there were demonstrable facts that you would still remain unconvinced?
There are different types of FGM, as I have already said. How bad a socalled female circumcision depends on the kind and the individual case. Many circumcised women still report satsifying sex lives.
@endofscene There aren't demonstrable facts though, that was the whole point of my statement. The facts aren't there, and so all you could do is try to convince me with words, and I'm not gullible enough to fall for that. And yes, I have done research on the subject. The clitoris DOES contain more nerve endings than the foreskin, and even numbers don't mean anything in and of themselves. Do some research on human sexuality, some women can achieve orgasm through penetration only, and don't even
@hzuiel You're not getting the point. Only the man himself should decide whether to get circumcised. In the USA, it is illegal to tattoo a baby, even though a tattoo is arguably less of a mutilation than a circumcision. You can't do it because it is an uneccessary violation of that person's body.
@hzuiel "The clitoris DOES contain more nerve endings than the foreskin,"
You are making this up. The neural density is higher on a clitoris only because it is a smaller piece of skin.
The male perspective on female orgasm is generally : who cares? Many women are completely incapable of orgasm with intact genitals, and even so, it is a fleeting affair. As long as women continue to ask men to earn more money to pay for sexual access, female sexual gratification is secondary.
@feministsAreCorrupt@hzuiel You are a sad and shallow man. How dare you speak on behalf of men? You have no idea what a man wants or thinks. It's obvious from that comment that you made that you never left boyhood you sad pathetic self centered shallow little boy. Get a life and stop being so evil, Real men do care about FGM and are doing a lot about it. You would not know because you obviously never leave your bedroom. I bet you still live with Mummy too. You sad shithead. Grow up.
@hzuiel I don't know where you get the figure of 99.99% from, but many men have had their sex lives negatively impacted by circumcision. You only need do a bit of research on the net to discover this. However, just because most circumcised men are capable of enjoying sex and achieving orgasm in no way means that (1) circumcision is okay, and (2) that they have had a reduction and alteration in sensation as a result of circumcision.
@endofscene enjoy the stimulation of the outer genitals. Wheras some women fail to ever achieve orgasm in their entire lives through penetration only. Women are complex sexually and you simply can't deny that cutting off certain parts like the clitoris, would denying many women the chance of ever being sexually satisfied. Men on the other hand are almost always capable of enjoying sex regardless. Whether or not they enjoy it more or less is a matter of conjecture as my previous comments explain.
@hzuiel In the USA, it is illegal to cut or prick ANY PART of a woman's vagina, even a ritual pinprick that leaves no pemanent damage. You cannot draw a drop of blood, you cannot cut off the clitoral hood and you cannot slice a piece of the labia. Obviously, if you cut off just part of the labia or part of the skin that covers the clit, it may not affect that woman's sexual pleasure, but it it still illegal to do it.
@hzuiel While you argue a difference of sexual pleasure, the primary sexual function of reproduction is marginally-affected by either FGM or MGM.
So, you are arguing that it is completely OK to crush an American infant male's genitals, with or without topical anesthetic that lasts a few hours, but it is not OK to perform a genital surgery of any kind, including the amputation of only the clitoral hood, on a woman?
@feministsAreCorrupt FGM procedures intend to remove the entire clitoris, and they do so without anesthetics. I disagree with both FGM and MGM, and I think it should be left for the individual to decide when they're old enough. What bothers me is your statement "As long as women continue to ask men to earn more money to pay for sexual access, female gratification is SECONDARY." This isn't the 1950's. A lot of women go off and earn their own income. Sounds like you hate golddiggers (I do, too).
@endofscene You add to this the fact that the practice is almost always done on older girls who have physically matured more than an infant and feel much more physical pain as a result, plus emotional trauma that infants don't have, and the unsanitary manner in which many of these female circumcisions are carried out that can result in bacterial infections and even the transfer of the HIV virus and you arrive at the main point....which is.....
@endofscene Male circumcision may be wrong, but the consequences do not warrant the same consideration or action. It's something that is still a choice of parents, just like other potentially harmful choices parents make, such as what and how they team them about sex, what recreation they allow them to participate in, etc, and if it takes some time for the practice to come to an end, and it's not important enough to infringe on people's religious rights to stop. Female circumcision on the other
@hzuiel WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! It is extremely important that non-adult male circumcision gets stopped! It is extremely sexist that male children are not protected by law in Westernized countries but their female counterparts are protected. It distorts our ability to understand human rights and compassion when people like you stand by and condone male circumcision.
@hzuiel If you see genital mutilation as something that only affects females, then you are wrong and you are getting a distorted picture of the truth. It is hypocritical for Americans to be telling Egypt to stop genital mutilation when there is so much heinous genital mutilation going on in America.
@utoobmark Agreed. Feminist Activists do everything to shift all money and attention to women's issues because they believe that only women need more help as women are more important. That is a social policy of supremacy.
@feministsAreCorrupt That's true to an extent. It's the same thing with the civil rights movement, however. Since women and minorities used to be treated as secondary citizens, you see a trend of over reparation (affirmative action, man-hating feminists). But there are a lot of feminists who simply believe men and women should be treated equally, or merit should win over gender. They just happen to be less outspoken than the "feminazis" whose sole aim is to be "better than men".
@emilyj1987 Your points are important, but I don't see any change in sexual currency. Women continue their monopoly on sex and repro. This is biology. The Feminist version of social equalityis to provide women with safe, clean, fixed hour day-time jobs while men continue to perform the hard manual labor and dangerous, dirty, odd and night-time hour jobs. If anything, the 6 year American marriage increases the cost of sex for men when women file for 70% of divorces.
@feministsAreCorrupt I believe most people don't take marriage seriously anymore, and I certainly have a deep contempt for the women who seek to profit from it, or even just try to "stick it" to their ex-husbands. Very un-utilitarian. I understand your displeasure with the current feminist movement, but just be aware that not all feminists are like that. I am a self-proclaimed feminist, but in the sense that I believe in pure merit-based compensation and a mutual respect between men and women.
@feministsAreCorrupt Just a side note, I'm also aware that a contributing factor to the wage disparity between men and women may be attributable to mandated maternity benefits that women receive. Clearly it's a gender-based form of compensation, hence creating a wage gap in the jobs that fall under the legislation (see "The Incidence of Mandated Maternity Benefits", Jonathan Gruber, 1994).
@hzuiel Despite much research and ownership of half a shelf of books on MGM and FGM, I fail to see any difference between male circumcision in the US and female genital mutilation in Africa. While more female tissue is removed, guess what, a female uses less tissue to function sexually. If a male was unable to have an orgasm, then humans would go extinct. All genital mutilation should be abolished.
The only difference you see is that women's issues matter and males issues do not.
@feministsAreCorrupt---Feminists are not attempting to deny any rights of the male population, merely to defend their own. FGM is not cosmetic, it does not only remove the clitoral hood as you say, it removes the entire organ--equivalent to removing the entire penis. The girls who are victims of this horror are not gaining any financial rewards, merely the social acceptance associated with their mutilation. You are sorely misinformed.
@feministsAreCorrupt Why are idiots like you always looking for differences? I'll tell you the difference. When a man is circumsised he loses a small part of his foreskin, usualy in a sterile environment. The baby girl has her outer laibia, inner labia and clitoris chopped off without any pain relief, usually with a piece of dirty glass and is then sewn up for the next 10-15 yrs causing severe infections. This is barbaric, that's it, help stop it and stop talking shit. It happens in the US too
@endofscene hand is very harmful in many ways, and isn't even a religious practice, it's just practice that became so widespread that it became customary and often is done for very impure purposes, such as being able to get a larger dowry for your daughter because you can guarantee she is a virgin, and control because it discourages infidelity from women. And additionally it is a prime example of the kind of rampant ignorance that needs to be eradicated from the people's of africa. Nowhere else
@hzuiel Male circumcision is the kind of rampant ignorance that needs to be eradicated from the USA, Canada, UK, and Australia, countries who should know better.
@utoobmark The circumcision rate in Canada, UK, Australia and Germany has fallen below 5%. The cosmetic surgery quickly fell out of favor in countries that required that parents pay out of their own pocket. The US circumcision rate remains stubbornly high at 33% in 2009, down from 90% in 1960s.
@endofscene in the world sees some of the things that happen in africa. Brutal coos that often result in little more than one warlord taking over another's territory and turning those citizens into slaves for their gold mine. The president of south africa was reported to have said during a public address that hiv could be cured by having sex with a virgin. In the light of all the weight that surrounds female circumcision itself and the ignorance that it exhibits, the importance of male
@hzuiel circumcision simply pales. It's just not that big of a deal. Certainly not worth arguing about on a comment section of a youtube video about female circumcision, and in my opinion, not worth wasting everyone's time in the political realm either. It will work itself out in time.
You saying that foreskin restoration surgery is available???
artsHscience 19 hours ago
Also, I think male circumcision is just as unnecessary
KikiKiwi32 3 days ago
I'm studying medicine now in my high school (biomedical ethics), and Female Circumcision/mutilation is proven to have no real medical benefits for the patients. Actually, there are ZERO medical benefits for Female Circumcision/mutilation. Except that it will keep girls chaste..which is more for the peace of mind than of medical benefit.-__-
KikiKiwi32 3 days ago
They should start cutting penises off and asking this jackasses: How does it feel now jerk?
ateodeponce 5 days ago
wow.... make circumcision: okay... but female: hell no. i mean dang ppl if ur gonna do it then freaken use pain killers. i aint against ur beliefe, but know what ur freeking doing! dont just start cutting off body parts with out proper equiptment. goodness ppl... b smart about the stupid sh++ u do.
VampireNinja007 2 weeks ago
ewww that's terrible. Poor women.
coquinat 1 month ago
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jesylgonzer 1 month ago
barbaric izlam
mvp111MCA 2 months ago
@mvp111MCA this has nothing to do with islam FGM was not mentioned in the quran its a n african culture thing!!
unachable 3 weeks ago
@unachable that s a poor understanding of islam,,,, in Islam u have hadith and koran ..u cannot sperate both. your prophet agreeed to it.
mvp111MCA 2 weeks ago
in those countries instead of thinking their daughters future for education better life and progress they just think of marrying them as soon as possible and make them housewives and make children! the story continues for years! you are just so unlucky if you are born in savage culture!
TheAamasa 2 months ago
How ignorant this human can be!? what a savage way of thinking! if woman has suffered its just because Women themselves havent got their right! they all think for the sake of Guys! that is SICK.
TheAamasa 2 months ago
What a disgusting excuse for a religion.
MrJohnnyrace 2 months ago
I am a Muslim and i had no clue that anything like this was possible let alone done in the Islamic culture, the Qur'an was written in 610CE & does not state for people to do such things to women, it teaches the same thing a bible does about adultery, theft and lying...for those of you to solely blame one culture and it religion on something as horrid as this is not right also i did some research and mgf was not preformed until 2000 years ago,
nibrahimovic19 3 months ago
@nibrahimovic19 what you missed is that it says no such thing about doing mutilation to MEN EITHER. YEP! look it up man!
ballm0use 2 months ago
@ballm0use ...yeah what about the tests hilter did on people, the things americans did on people, remember slavery? oh yeah i saw this on tyra banks show, apparently muslims are not the only religion that does this, and get your facts straight, am a muslim, but there are several difference between bosnian, and pakistan, iraq,etc... just like christains and catholics, same exact thing, just a little itty bitty difference, both that little difference can make everyone hate on one religion.
nibrahimovic19 2 months ago
@nibrahimovic19 nibrahimovic, i guess you are bosnian? you are right in saying that the quran does not speak about mutilation.. but islam is the only monotheistic/world religion where its mainstream teachigns have carried it on and allowed it for millenia now. there is a hadith of prophet mohammed not stopping a "circumcision"/mutilation and saying to cut "as little as possible, for the benefit of the girl and the husband". so if you believe this hadith (whcih many did over the
dinavienna 1 month ago
centuries) you'll say its sunna to do so (but to cut little). it is an african practice over millenia most likely and over many different faiths. egypt is an african country, with an arabic culture but also with many elements and ethnic minorities of african culture. it is not by coincidence i think that the most mutilating form of fgm is called "pharaonic circumcision" where practically all female genitalia is cut off. so ya unfortunately there is some reference in islamic sources
dinavienna 1 month ago
I am so sick of hearing about talking snakes and all of this superhero worship shit. I am so happy that my children will not have to suffer from any mutilation or any of this bullshit.
Brilliantatheist 3 months ago
This just makes me sick to my stomach that stuff like this actually happens. Now that's a form of torture. Glad many countries have made it illegal.
newfful 3 months ago
all circumcision is genital mutilation, male or female.
BolnoyBratchny 4 months ago 3
@BolnoyBratchny I agree! GENITAL INTEGRITY FOR MALES AND FEMALES! WE ARE BORN THIS WAY FOR A REASON!
ballm0use 2 months ago 4
@ballm0use actually mainstream islam does not allow you to get a tattoo, piercing not even to pluck your eyebrows (!) not to alter gods creation.. it is beyond my understanding why so many scholars dedicate ridiculous amounts of energy to banning eyebrow pluckin and tattoos citing long lists of hadiths for it - but so relatively little energy goes in a simple analogy not to alter gods creation by cutting off body parts! what alters it more some ink or mutilation?!
dinavienna 1 month ago
@BolnoyBratchny Society doesnt give a fuck about young boys however my friend.
ITHEREONETHATHASNT 2 days ago
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Fucking backwards farmers. May Allah punish them and clean Egypt from this sick barbarian custom.
EgyptianKhedive 4 months ago
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what a fkn backward practice. Islam is nothing but a cult that preaches violence and hatered. Thiscult is designed to brainwash young men into believing that they are superior to women. As for the Quoraan, I would not call it Holy. Muzzies get yourself some brains and stop torturing young women.
sweetpandora77 5 months ago in playlist Egyptian and African Women Circumcised Warning Graphic Video
what a fkn backward practice. Islam is nothing but a cult that preaches violence and hatered. Thiscult is designed to brainwash young men into believing that they are superior to women. As for the Quoraan, I would not call it Holy. Muzzies get yourself some brains and stop torturing young women.
sweetpandora77 5 months ago in playlist Egyptian and African Women Circumcised Warning Graphic Video
@sweetpandora77 I can't believe there are stupid people like you XD
EgyptianKhedive 4 months ago
This totally destroys the ability of a woman's body to properly function during the act of sex making it a very unpleasant experience. Its anything but of God, and goes against the very intended design of the creator.
KamaraSune 5 months ago
These women do not love their children. How could you do that to your child? I'm at awe with this and in my own culture where people around me decide to hurt young boys in the same manner in the name of "religion."
SStrongIsNeverWrong 6 months ago
I agree that this practice needs to end, as a man the majority of my sexual pleasure comes from pleasuring my partner through oral sex and this practice makes it impossible to pleasure a woman orally
Maurice1469 6 months ago
They circumcise them because they're insecure and would rather make sure she gets no pleasure, and thus 'wont cheat'. They COULD become good husbands and satisfy their wives' emotional and physical needs, but thats probably too difficult compared to mutilating them.
jerz211 6 months ago
I don't know the specifics of the cultural aspect of this but I do think female genital mutilation is quite fabulous!
Just the thought of it being all closed up.
Razlo5000 6 months ago
.. why are people comparing the removal of the clitoris to the removal of the foreskin? Cutting the clitoris, is like cutting the entire penis off. Women cannot experience arousal or be sexually satisfied. But if you remove the foreskin, men are still able to be aroused and experience sexual pleasure. Come on people.
mmsanthuru 6 months ago 2
the body was made the way god intended so i dont kno why men think its ok to mutilate a womans body, its about suppression and control of women. and the women are brainwashed to think that its wat they have to do. ppl r fucked
stephanie8701usher 6 months ago 2
Muhammad said not to cut too much off which means he allowed to take the hood that covers the clitoris off. The hood is like the male foreskin. Women can still have pleasure with a missing hood but she can't get a cool hood piercing.
Men's foreskin can get dirty with smegham if he doesn't keep it clean and so in the days before everyone bathed daily they wanted to take all the foreskins off. I don't think women get the same health concerns so no real reason to remove the hood.
artsHscience 6 months ago
Why do they sit so close together. lol
bushbarnes 7 months ago
Its not religion, its a stupid culture.
Leonce62 7 months ago
Because men know the anger and outrage you feel when you hear about this. We know on some level, we will receive flak from this, something we had nothing to do with. (referring of course, to men and women in other countries)
All im saying is make sure you know where the blame lies.
MagnusCattus 7 months ago
Why is it in every western movie, show, or commercial the man is always portraid as a fool. So here it is, the reason I can't say anything about that, because worse things are happeneing to women somewhere else in the world, that not too surprisingly, "educated" women do pretty much nothing about. (You want to earn another dollar an hour? Fine. Just don't call yourself a femenist when you know this crap is going on.) My point is, It isnt a cruade of the phalic.
MagnusCattus 7 months ago
The reason why men comment on this is because anytime some moron does crap like this men who had nothing to do with it still get the blame and get labled. We have to say something because the shame is immense, we need to make it look at least somehow men don't have it "So much easier" as the common femenist phrase goes. I will say it now. I am a man, I will never accept a woman in charge and I am ashamed that this goes on. I am ashamed that I can't stop it. But that doesnt mean I'm a femenist.
MagnusCattus 7 months ago
@jimdraven4 its been medically proven that the gspot doesnt exist!!
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Boris82much 8 months ago
The foreskin contains over 20,000 nerve endings and is analogous to the female clitoris according to the British Medical Journal and others. I know this video is exclusive to FGM, but I only brought it up because the top comments are full of ignorant drivel and typical cultural babble here in the U.S.
EnthalpyH 8 months ago
What is the reason for this tradition? Why is it done?
DJacqu8351 9 months ago
@DJacqu8351 I think they believe that by cutting off the source of pleasure you also cut off the woman's potential to cheat thus the man can leave the house and feel his wife is not shaming him by having an orgy with everyone because she won't want to have sex. It reduces her to the status of property, like castrating your slave to keep him from doing aggressive things like running away or stealing your property
ChannelingusXIV 8 months ago 17
@ChannelingusXIV This is a crime against humamity and women everywhere. Thanks for informing me, and I plan to become more fully informed and become involved in some :)
DJacqu8351 8 months ago
@ChannelingusXIV this is disgusting women are not objects. i mean "the man might get her circumcised on the wedding night" she's not a bloody dog eugh!
milkywaighbar 5 months ago
holy crap, people are crazy.. doing this. I'M HAPPY I LIVE IN AMERICA. lmao
UNOfreak 9 months ago
male genital mutilation is worse because it happens every day in a big minority of western countries. stop it now! you are born this way for a reason! you think nature made a mistake?
ballm0use 9 months ago
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being a male, I have to say you're a shameless misogynist to compare the horrors of FGM to male circumcision, which obviously shouldn't be done too, but is nowhere near as harmful, painful and hardly robs you of your sexuality, unlike the mutilation of girls
get a life
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this was in response to ballm0use's allegations that 'male genital mutilation is worse' and so on
Ramironin 7 months ago
@Ramironin circumcision is a human rights violation, male or female. I ask you to please look it up. Both practises are extremely cruel. The foreskin contains an unusually high concentration of nerves and amputation is extremely painful too (it is not because it's a baby that it is not). Removal of the foreskin prevents a full erection for the rest of your life. Both male and female practices were made to reduce sexual pleasure.
MsWildtiger 7 months ago
@MsWildtiger I get a full erection with no foreskin. Not sure where you get your info but it's incorrect.
artsHscience 6 months ago
@artsHscience trust me your member could be longer. The foreskin compensates the length, that is its function, apart from giving a pleasant gliding motion on the male equivalent of the clitoris, increasing sexual satisfaction. That is why so many men go for surgery for restoration of the foreskin.
MsWildtiger 6 months ago
@Ramironin see circumstitions webpage
ballm0use 6 months ago
Islam has beeen a curce upon humanity ,this is what happens when people follow a false prophet . Jesus christ said ;"beware of false prophets you will recocnize them by their fruits and what are the fruits of islam ??
nedboer 9 months ago
they paid this bitch to do this an interview with one old hag with some backround music is what your falling for
mrkhristoff 9 months ago
WOW I am ashamed they exist among us.Fuck religion!
lilprincy17 9 months ago
This is the Culture of their country not Islam. This tradition existed before Islam came. Islam tried to stop this sick torment on women but these people never let go & brought to Muslims. They slandered Islam for their old ugly culture. Islam does not teach this type of tradition. You sick people stop accusing of Islam for your ignorance. I hate these sick Arabs. They never will stop accusing Islam for their sick tradition. God brought Islam for them to stop their sick culture.
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truthorterror 9 months ago
Islam = Savages = Satan
ZionIDF 9 months ago
just to clear the air it is not a part of a religion belief. I'm muslim and in Koran or any Holy text there is no text written telling women to do these and this is purely cultural.
Even some argued that Muhammad (may peace be upon him) our prophet said that it should only be for male.
mrsnbross 9 months ago 4
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It's good to hear that Islam doesn't promote female "circumcision," but if Muhammad indeed thought it should be only for men, well, I don't respect that either. There is absolutely no point to circumcision. Why inflict the pain, why mutilate a God-given body, why take away a piece of flesh that provides a little extra pleasure?
arc27 9 months ago
@arc27 Muhammad (may peace be upon him) said that it is better cut for men because it is said that the foreskin on the male's genitals keep bacterias that could harm his health and overall cleanliness. However, I believe he inflicted as a sunnah and it is necessary in those times where proper hygienic tools are not available. It is only recommended so to promote hygiene. Besides all my brothers are circumcised and with all the technology, he said he could barely feel it.
mrsnbross 9 months ago
@mrsnbross I feel such pity for your circed brothers,theey are lying to you and themselves.This is a bad practice for men and women.
bebetigre12 9 months ago
@mrsnbross hygiene is a cheap excuse to justify what has happened to us in the past. armpits need washing, no cutting there. teeth need brushing, we don't rip those out. nature provides us with baby boys and girls in this way for a reason. saying that nature is flawed is a bold statement. watch a circumcision of a baby boy and you will know.
ballm0use 9 months ago
@OBSysteme In these countries, sex isn't for the purpose of pleasure. It's just to get the woman pregnant.
These guys are sick and stupid. They should have their dicks cut off. No one deserves this, it's terrible.
paislitaaa 10 months ago
Here is what I wonder, if you alter the clitoris of a woman, you alter her ability to feel pleasure.... then... what good is it for the man if he wants only a wife that has no clitoris.... The way I understand male sexuality, is that most men want to be "good in bed", and being good at it involves getting your female partner / wife an orgasm.
I just don't get this female mutilation practice....
OBSysteme 10 months ago 2
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I don't get it either. The only thing I can conclude is that societies that perform it don't think it's important that women get to have as much pleasure during sex as men get. Plain and simple inequality.
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PLEASE THUMBS UP THIS SO FUTURE READERS CAN GET THE INFO THEY NEED TO HELP. If you would like to know more about this horrible horriffic inhumane and barbaric act then you should visit the Desert Flower foundation which you can google. The book and film will give you a true account of this sadistic process and show you how you can help put a stop to it. It happens all over the world, everyday
fadmucker08 10 months ago
I wonder if Iman, David Bowie''s beautiful, super model and Somolian (African) wife, was circumsized? If so, I wonder why she doesn't speak against it..
I always thought a man, a sensual man, enjoyed pleasing his woman.. It makes the man feel good to see his lover pleased. I also cannot begin to imagine the pain involved..
TheAlysheba 11 months ago
@TheAlysheba Go to the desert flower foundation. Waris dire is a famous model and is fighting this act as it happens all over the world. Estimates say that around 2'000 young girls endure this act in the UK every year. You can get lots more info on the foundation's website. Hope that helps.
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roush26 11 months ago 43
@roush26 go read up on a males foreskin,, u dont kno what shit ur talkin about,,, alot of nerve endings are cut off with it, along with vain, and it makes the head of the penis more sensitive, since its protected most of the time, untill its time for sex, which causes the skin to go back,, sooo do some research dude ,, many people are against male circumcision also
JOKAWILD26 10 months ago
@JOKAWILD26 well MY foreskin is a source of pain, like touching an open wound, and it makes the head of the penis feel like an open wound too, getting a descent blowjob is hard cuz it makes it more odorous and distasteful, i have to clean it everyday in the shower to get the smell out and its like a deoderant, its only good for a few hours, age reduces sensitivity anyway
roush26 10 months ago
@roush26 well sounds like u need to see a doctor, cuz that aint normal at all,,, i dont have none of those problems, with mine, ,, so your shit must be fucked up, forrealz
JOKAWILD26 10 months ago
@JOKAWILD26 overly sensitive and bad odor r common, thats y they say circumcision is good, u and i r not here to see who's telling the truth nor do i wanna look n smell ur junk so....someone is in denial, age reduces sensitivty, so the "open wound" feeling is gone, n if u rub the inner foreskin wit ur finger back in forth, i promise u i does not feel good, do it enough n it will feel like ur rubbing a cut is wat im saying
roush26 10 months ago
@roush26 u need to see a doctor seriously dude,, becouse first off having ODER is not common,, its not common for a vagina to have oder iether,, so if you have an oder on your penis,, u need to see a doctor, along with if you say it hurts u & shit,, cuz my dick is just fine, i never have no Pain on my dick at all, i dont have none of those problems u have, & if i did, i WOULD go to the doctor and tell him whats up,, so i suggest u go to the doctor,, i dont wanna hear no more tho, tell the doc
JOKAWILD26 10 months ago
@roush26 Foreskin serves no value!?
The fuck wrong with you people?
dilmo22 10 months ago 3
@roush26 MGM is still wrong. And yes, it does promote pleasure with the foreskin. Just wanted to say.
To anyone else reading this, FGM is 10x worse. But don't think MGM isn't bad either.
angus7021 10 months ago 2
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couldnt have said it better myself...a lot of idiots excuse this sick horrid "tradition" by using dumb excuses that have nothing to do with the problem itself
DaCatOnTop 10 months ago
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"male circumcision is removal of foreskin that serves no value in procreation or pleasure"
Umm... no. Wrong. The foreskin contains nerve endings that contribute to pleasure. I don't know from personal experience because my parents, IGNORANTLY, had me circumcised, but I've read about the subject.
arc27 9 months ago 2
@roush26 you dumb mouse....what you dont kniow is older than you are....im sure alot people reading this are fat as fuck....its no problem to them because its ok to be a big fat truck in our america but its a damn shame elsewhere....shut ur mouth you dumb american moue
mrkhristoff 9 months ago
@mrkhristoff okay ill never talk to you again. thats one internet victory for you : )
roush26 9 months ago
@roush26 But don't forget, if this is about eliminating pleasure for women then its ignorant to do this procedure. What about the g spot? They can't get rid of that. The clitoris isn't the only way a woman can feel pleasure, but yes this is still unacceptable.
jimdraven4 8 months ago
@jimdraven4 yea i know the g spot is there but most women get the most out of the clitoris, so its not ok to remove the clitoris
roush26 8 months ago
@roush26 It's not okay to remove any part of a woman's genitals. I was not trying to imply that it was okay just because I said that there are other forms of pleasure for a woman. Sorry if I was unclear on where I stand with this issue. What I meant was that there are alterior motives to the reason behind doing this to women other than "taking pleasure away from women."
jimdraven4 8 months ago
@jimdraven4 actually the g spot is just a mythical fairytale. there is no basis in reality for this claim and there never has been. the clitoris is a very concrete part of the female anatomy. sorry, but truth is truth.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@TheHuntress144 I understand. Still, my girlfriend is the one that posted the original comment. I am just supporting her and have discussed with her the dispelling of the g spot rumor. Yet, I am firm on the notion that taking any part from a woman is simply unacceptable.
jimdraven4 8 months ago
@jimdraven4 i am not an advocate for fgm (being a woman). i was just correcting a factual error. i don't care who made it.
TheHuntress144 8 months ago
@roush26 The foreskin is actually critical to protection and pleasure. It serves the same purpose as the clitoral hood. In case you didn't realize this, amputation of the clitoral hood is the most common form of FGM. The main difference is that the foreskin contains more nerve ending than the clitoral hood and glans clitoris combined. Removing part of someone's genitals without their consent is wrong; it shouldn't matter whether the victim is male or female.
Mystoksor 8 months ago
@roush26 The area where the penile skin meets the glans is the inner foreskin. It is mucosal tissue and is very sensitive. The frenulum is also highly erogenous. Some or all of the frenulum is removed during circumcision. The most sensitive part of the intact penis is the transitional area between inner and outer foreskin. This area is always lost due to circumcision. Circumcision removes the most sensitive parts of the penis and impacts the functions of the foreskin--both protective and sexual.
MelancholyLogic 7 months ago
@roush26 Men are born with several G spots: The Lips of the Foreskin (prepucial orifice), Frenar Band Ridged Mucosa (located on the foreskin's inner lining), the frenulum (like the one under your tongue), and the Glans Penis. Circumcision of the male removes the foreskin and very often the frenulum. It also impairs a man's ability to lubricate on his own causing the Glans to keretinze. Foreskin and Frenulum: Fine touch sensation; Glans Penis: Pressure sensation
MsJalpal 6 months ago
@MsJalpal ok, i removed my comment because of all these experts on the male penis wont leave me alone
roush26 6 months ago
When they stop both this and MGM, I'll say "YAY!".
LannaDru 11 months ago
Islam ,the religion of fucking peace they say,more like the religion of "piss"
hayden50 11 months ago
Sick fucks
hardcorenyc 11 months ago
some people try to talk about their penisses wherever they can,
go argue where people do listen!
this isn't about male circumcision THIS IS ABOUT FGM
secretp101 11 months ago 25
@secretp101 You've got it all wrong. This issue is about genital mutilation. Both males and females are suffering from it. I care about the women. But you don't seem to care about the men. That would make you sexist. How dare you think that a vagina is more important than a penis?! They deserve equal consideration.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@secretp101 So you think FGM is bad, but you won't acknowledge that MGM is a worse problem in the USA? This isn't about dividing genital mutilation along male and female gender lines, it should be about protecting everyone.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@utoobmark Since male MGM is legal in the US, why not introduce large scale FGM that involves amputation of the clitoral hood? It would be covered by health insurance and performed in a sterile surgical environment with the supervision of trained medical professionals. Currently, women do not have as many surgical rights as men as cosmetic genital surgery on infant girls is illegal in the US.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@utoobmark of course I do acknowledge that "mgm" is a worse problem in the US. but the world doesn't consist of the US.
secretp101 11 months ago
@secretp101 Yes, and I certainly feel sympathy for the women subjected to FGM everywhere. But a very large portion of the Youtube audience lives in the US. If they see this video it is important for them to remember what goes on in their own country.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@utoobmark This also happens across the US, everyday. Visit the desert flower foundationswebsite for details.
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@secretp101 I'm confused why it should matter if someone talks about a penis or a clit. I am a female and I refuse to go so far as to only acknowledge injustices done to my own gender and deny the suffering of others. Equal rights. Genitals are being mutilated and it is wrong. Why do people get bent out of shape if you're an inny versus an outty? Both genders are being abused and it's wrong. Stop fighting amongst ourselves and take down the idiots who are doing this.
Aurra994 11 months ago
@secretp101 The US is the last Western nation with legal large scale genital mutilation of infants.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@secretp101 MGM and FGM, what's the difference? Both are horrible crimes against children.
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cobra09006 11 months ago
Lol. How about chopping their balls off for being cowards? Or chop off their extra "nose" for being so nosy going into female's "business". Maybe females should look at males one day and go "Hmm, they have an extra nose", and take out a saw or something.
Okay. Just being sarcastic. This is very sick.
spiritfired 1 year ago
This is sad and sick.
samsta001 1 year ago
I don't believe the lady at the end that says they perform the act differently now. I feel that is perhaps not an outright lie, but a deception, I DON'T believe they use anethesia on every little girl having this done. I don't believe there are enough doctors to do so, and I think the utensils they use are still old and painful. I honestly don't think the people that perform this barbaric cruel act on innocent little girls really care because they are self righteous in the name of their religion
beejaayee 1 year ago
I'm a guy and i find this horrific...........
whisperingdeath308 1 year ago 8
@whisperingdeath308 yesss! Cheers.
LazyChristy 1 year ago
@LazyChristy It's sad that the girl has no say in what is done to her!
whisperingdeath308 1 year ago
@whisperingdeath308 Just like routine infant male circumcision in your country.
endofscene 11 months ago
only absent minded Arabs that still think through those lines and afair the world is changing around them at faster rate, because of some women sicking and pursuing education outside the country, its evident already in some areas of closet minded Arabs that want to deny opportunities for rights to improve oneself and that's a crime as women.
oct1984 1 year ago
END ALL GENITAL MUTILATION OF BOYS AND GIRLS NOW! More and more parents in the United States are making the right decision to keep their sons intact - NOT circumcising (70% as of 2010.) Female genital mutilation is already illegal in United States.
Chadolution 1 year ago 3
Most muslims have never heard about female circumcision, elhamdulillah I am a muslim female and like most I didn't get mutilated!!! accourding to a hadith, mutilating a vagina is even against islam!
FGM IS AGAINST THE RELIGION, HUMAN RIGHTS AND A CRIME. everybody saying something else is just in desperate need of education.
sick fuck!
secretp101 1 year ago 3
@secretp101 Agreed...What about male circumcision?
yanniskusogaki 1 year ago
@yanniskusogaki well, I don't have a penis to understand weather and how circumcision harms a male lol. I have never heard a guy complaining about his circumcision, but to be honest I haven't talked to a lot about this topic ;))) so what's your opinion?
secretp101 1 year ago
@secretp101 Hahaha,that's true.Well it does hurt the baby,that's for sure.And what they cut off is there for a reason (keeping it moist and clean from outside stuff,same as the female labia majora).They did it back in the day because of poor hygiene.They wouldn't wash so in time it would get infected and close up causing problems.Plus it contains thousands of nerve endings,if you cut it off you take a big part of the feel away and sex becomes duller for the man.So I think it should stop.
yanniskusogaki 1 year ago
@yanniskusogaki I think you are right, but the reason why it didn't get banned or considered as a crime is that unlike fgm it is a religious must for jews and muslims. plus if you life in a society where everyone is circumcised you get teased by other boys if you don't get it done. that's why my brother who didn't get circumcised until the age of 14 or 15 got to a hospital on his own an got it done, because he was just fed up with being teased and thought he had to do his duty lol..
secretp101 1 year ago
@yanniskusogaki so, yeah I think we should wait until the person is old enough to decide on his own. that way he would keep his integrity over his body. but I know that jews have to do it to newborns.. so religious people unfortunately will never stop.
secretp101 1 year ago
@secretp101 I'm not particularly in favor of male circumcision either, but male circumcision isn't harmful. It causes pain to the baby and MAY change the sexual experience as an adult slightly. Female circumcision on the other hand is often done when the child is older and it's more painful and memorable, and usually leaves them totally unable to enjoy sexual relations. It's not a religious practice either, it's about control. A woman who doesn't enjoy sex won't cheat. So very wrong.
hzuiel 1 year ago 2
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@hzuiel if you would have read all of my comments then you would have seen that I agree with you.. ;)
but unlike fgm male circumcision IS a religious practice for muslims and jews.
secretp101 1 year ago
@hzuiel Male circumcision is intrinsically harmful. It involves cutting healthy functional tissue and ripping off and amputating protective erogenous skin. It removes thousands of nerve-endings (much more than FGM) and a large amount of penile skin. And this is to say nothing of the botched jobs or the ones that result in death.
You cannot say that it "May change the sexual experience as an adult slightly" because you don't know. You cannot say it is more painful for an older child either.
endofscene 11 months ago
@endofscene you're comparing removal of the foreskin to removal of the clitrorus.. hilarious.
smokydave 11 months ago
@smokydave It's not hillarious at all. The male foreskin contains 20.000 nerve-endings. The female clitoris contains 8000. The foreskin comprises an area greater than the clitoris - more tissue and more nerve-endings and more blood-vessels are removed in male circumcision. There are of course different types of female circumcision; those removing the clitoris don't usually remove the whole clitoris but rather a part of the clitoris or the glans clitoris.
endofscene 11 months ago
@smokydave I would venture to guess that you're a circumcised male and know very little about the intact penis and its anatomy and physiology.
endofscene 11 months ago
@endofscene That is completely wrong, there are no facts to back up, nor any way to convince me that male circumcision removes more nerve endings than female circumcision that often involves cutting the clitoris off, along with the labia majora. It may not be preferable, but the fact is that male circumcision unless it's carried out by a blind man, should leave the child capable of enjoying sex and achieving orgasm 99.99% of the time. Female circumcision, not so much.
hzuiel 11 months ago 2
@hzuiel This is so false. Females who have their clitoris cut off can still have G-spot orgasms 99.99% of the time. Most circumcised women report that they still enjoy sex. However, this does not in any way make female circumcision acceptable. Male circumcision is not acceptable at all. It is still a heinous violation of a boy's body. The fact that a circumcised man can still orgasm is irrelevant to the gross human rights violation that was perpetrated against him.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@utoobmark If you know anything about sexuality in humans you'd know that even without factoring in female circumcision, it's still nowhere near 99.99% of women that can achieve orgasm through penetration only. Women vary a LOT, and many women never achieve an orgasm in their entire life, so you add in outright mutiliation of their genitals and it makes that even more likely.
And when I think of a heinous or gross violation of human rights, circumcision is not the first thing that pops into my
hzuiel 11 months ago
@utoobmark mind. I'm a man, and I have a penis too, but i'm sorry, guys getting all bent out of shape about this aren't being realistic. An entire nation of people(israel) and most countries that have ever been under the influence of christianity have practiced circumcision and they've still had sex, made babies, and enjoyed themselves. Foreskin or no foreskin, the vast majority of guys still put their dicks in places and enjoy themselves, you're living in a fantasy land if you think otherwise.
hzuiel 11 months ago
@utoobmark And this is coming from someone who doesn't believe in circumcision and wouldn't chose it for his children. However that's me personally, I'm not going to worry about someone else choosing it for their child because I can be reasonably sure that the child isn't going to suffer as a result of it. Something may be different, but even that is conjecture because the only people who really know are late in life jews that got circumcised AFTER they'd been sexually active already.
hzuiel 11 months ago
@utoobmark Anyone who is either uncircumcised or circumcised has no clue what the difference would be. If you're currently circumcised you have no idea whether or not you'd have been better off with a foreskin. I have one, and I can tell you it's not the greatest thing ever. Probably the only thing it does for me is make it easier to jerk off without lotion. There isn't even a common consensus among doctors about male circumcision and it's effects.
hzuiel 11 months ago
@hzuiel It is a man's right to have a foreskin. Nobody has the right to take it away from his body without consent, not parents or doctors. It doesn't matter whether you personally believe it affects his sexual pleasure or not.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@hzuiel "No facts to back up, nor any way to convince me..". Have you done any research on the subject? And are you saying that even if there were demonstrable facts that you would still remain unconvinced?
There are different types of FGM, as I have already said. How bad a socalled female circumcision depends on the kind and the individual case. Many circumcised women still report satsifying sex lives.
endofscene 11 months ago
@endofscene There aren't demonstrable facts though, that was the whole point of my statement. The facts aren't there, and so all you could do is try to convince me with words, and I'm not gullible enough to fall for that. And yes, I have done research on the subject. The clitoris DOES contain more nerve endings than the foreskin, and even numbers don't mean anything in and of themselves. Do some research on human sexuality, some women can achieve orgasm through penetration only, and don't even
hzuiel 11 months ago
@hzuiel You're not getting the point. Only the man himself should decide whether to get circumcised. In the USA, it is illegal to tattoo a baby, even though a tattoo is arguably less of a mutilation than a circumcision. You can't do it because it is an uneccessary violation of that person's body.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@utoobmark hzuil does not get the point because of an ideology of female supremacy which disregards male circumcision as unimportant.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@hzuiel "The clitoris DOES contain more nerve endings than the foreskin,"
You are making this up. The neural density is higher on a clitoris only because it is a smaller piece of skin.
The male perspective on female orgasm is generally : who cares? Many women are completely incapable of orgasm with intact genitals, and even so, it is a fleeting affair. As long as women continue to ask men to earn more money to pay for sexual access, female sexual gratification is secondary.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt @hzuiel You are a sad and shallow man. How dare you speak on behalf of men? You have no idea what a man wants or thinks. It's obvious from that comment that you made that you never left boyhood you sad pathetic self centered shallow little boy. Get a life and stop being so evil, Real men do care about FGM and are doing a lot about it. You would not know because you obviously never leave your bedroom. I bet you still live with Mummy too. You sad shithead. Grow up.
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@hzuiel I don't know where you get the figure of 99.99% from, but many men have had their sex lives negatively impacted by circumcision. You only need do a bit of research on the net to discover this. However, just because most circumcised men are capable of enjoying sex and achieving orgasm in no way means that (1) circumcision is okay, and (2) that they have had a reduction and alteration in sensation as a result of circumcision.
endofscene 11 months ago
@endofscene enjoy the stimulation of the outer genitals. Wheras some women fail to ever achieve orgasm in their entire lives through penetration only. Women are complex sexually and you simply can't deny that cutting off certain parts like the clitoris, would denying many women the chance of ever being sexually satisfied. Men on the other hand are almost always capable of enjoying sex regardless. Whether or not they enjoy it more or less is a matter of conjecture as my previous comments explain.
hzuiel 11 months ago
@hzuiel In the USA, it is illegal to cut or prick ANY PART of a woman's vagina, even a ritual pinprick that leaves no pemanent damage. You cannot draw a drop of blood, you cannot cut off the clitoral hood and you cannot slice a piece of the labia. Obviously, if you cut off just part of the labia or part of the skin that covers the clit, it may not affect that woman's sexual pleasure, but it it still illegal to do it.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@hzuiel While you argue a difference of sexual pleasure, the primary sexual function of reproduction is marginally-affected by either FGM or MGM.
So, you are arguing that it is completely OK to crush an American infant male's genitals, with or without topical anesthetic that lasts a few hours, but it is not OK to perform a genital surgery of any kind, including the amputation of only the clitoral hood, on a woman?
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt FGM procedures intend to remove the entire clitoris, and they do so without anesthetics. I disagree with both FGM and MGM, and I think it should be left for the individual to decide when they're old enough. What bothers me is your statement "As long as women continue to ask men to earn more money to pay for sexual access, female gratification is SECONDARY." This isn't the 1950's. A lot of women go off and earn their own income. Sounds like you hate golddiggers (I do, too).
emilyj1987 10 months ago
@endofscene You add to this the fact that the practice is almost always done on older girls who have physically matured more than an infant and feel much more physical pain as a result, plus emotional trauma that infants don't have, and the unsanitary manner in which many of these female circumcisions are carried out that can result in bacterial infections and even the transfer of the HIV virus and you arrive at the main point....which is.....
hzuiel 11 months ago
@endofscene Male circumcision may be wrong, but the consequences do not warrant the same consideration or action. It's something that is still a choice of parents, just like other potentially harmful choices parents make, such as what and how they team them about sex, what recreation they allow them to participate in, etc, and if it takes some time for the practice to come to an end, and it's not important enough to infringe on people's religious rights to stop. Female circumcision on the other
hzuiel 11 months ago
@hzuiel WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! It is extremely important that non-adult male circumcision gets stopped! It is extremely sexist that male children are not protected by law in Westernized countries but their female counterparts are protected. It distorts our ability to understand human rights and compassion when people like you stand by and condone male circumcision.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@hzuiel If you see genital mutilation as something that only affects females, then you are wrong and you are getting a distorted picture of the truth. It is hypocritical for Americans to be telling Egypt to stop genital mutilation when there is so much heinous genital mutilation going on in America.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@utoobmark Agreed. Feminist Activists do everything to shift all money and attention to women's issues because they believe that only women need more help as women are more important. That is a social policy of supremacy.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt That's true to an extent. It's the same thing with the civil rights movement, however. Since women and minorities used to be treated as secondary citizens, you see a trend of over reparation (affirmative action, man-hating feminists). But there are a lot of feminists who simply believe men and women should be treated equally, or merit should win over gender. They just happen to be less outspoken than the "feminazis" whose sole aim is to be "better than men".
emilyj1987 10 months ago
@emilyj1987 Your points are important, but I don't see any change in sexual currency. Women continue their monopoly on sex and repro. This is biology. The Feminist version of social equalityis to provide women with safe, clean, fixed hour day-time jobs while men continue to perform the hard manual labor and dangerous, dirty, odd and night-time hour jobs. If anything, the 6 year American marriage increases the cost of sex for men when women file for 70% of divorces.
feministsAreCorrupt 10 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt I believe most people don't take marriage seriously anymore, and I certainly have a deep contempt for the women who seek to profit from it, or even just try to "stick it" to their ex-husbands. Very un-utilitarian. I understand your displeasure with the current feminist movement, but just be aware that not all feminists are like that. I am a self-proclaimed feminist, but in the sense that I believe in pure merit-based compensation and a mutual respect between men and women.
emilyj1987 10 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt Just a side note, I'm also aware that a contributing factor to the wage disparity between men and women may be attributable to mandated maternity benefits that women receive. Clearly it's a gender-based form of compensation, hence creating a wage gap in the jobs that fall under the legislation (see "The Incidence of Mandated Maternity Benefits", Jonathan Gruber, 1994).
emilyj1987 10 months ago
@hzuiel Despite much research and ownership of half a shelf of books on MGM and FGM, I fail to see any difference between male circumcision in the US and female genital mutilation in Africa. While more female tissue is removed, guess what, a female uses less tissue to function sexually. If a male was unable to have an orgasm, then humans would go extinct. All genital mutilation should be abolished.
The only difference you see is that women's issues matter and males issues do not.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt---Feminists are not attempting to deny any rights of the male population, merely to defend their own. FGM is not cosmetic, it does not only remove the clitoral hood as you say, it removes the entire organ--equivalent to removing the entire penis. The girls who are victims of this horror are not gaining any financial rewards, merely the social acceptance associated with their mutilation. You are sorely misinformed.
Ailing84 10 months ago
@feministsAreCorrupt Why are idiots like you always looking for differences? I'll tell you the difference. When a man is circumsised he loses a small part of his foreskin, usualy in a sterile environment. The baby girl has her outer laibia, inner labia and clitoris chopped off without any pain relief, usually with a piece of dirty glass and is then sewn up for the next 10-15 yrs causing severe infections. This is barbaric, that's it, help stop it and stop talking shit. It happens in the US too
fadmucker08 10 months ago
@endofscene hand is very harmful in many ways, and isn't even a religious practice, it's just practice that became so widespread that it became customary and often is done for very impure purposes, such as being able to get a larger dowry for your daughter because you can guarantee she is a virgin, and control because it discourages infidelity from women. And additionally it is a prime example of the kind of rampant ignorance that needs to be eradicated from the people's of africa. Nowhere else
hzuiel 11 months ago
@hzuiel Male circumcision is the kind of rampant ignorance that needs to be eradicated from the USA, Canada, UK, and Australia, countries who should know better.
utoobmark 11 months ago
@utoobmark The circumcision rate in Canada, UK, Australia and Germany has fallen below 5%. The cosmetic surgery quickly fell out of favor in countries that required that parents pay out of their own pocket. The US circumcision rate remains stubbornly high at 33% in 2009, down from 90% in 1960s.
feministsAreCorrupt 11 months ago
@endofscene in the world sees some of the things that happen in africa. Brutal coos that often result in little more than one warlord taking over another's territory and turning those citizens into slaves for their gold mine. The president of south africa was reported to have said during a public address that hiv could be cured by having sex with a virgin. In the light of all the weight that surrounds female circumcision itself and the ignorance that it exhibits, the importance of male
hzuiel 11 months ago
@hzuiel circumcision simply pales. It's just not that big of a deal. Certainly not worth arguing about on a comment section of a youtube video about female circumcision, and in my opinion, not worth wasting everyone's time in the political realm either. It will work itself out in time.
hzuiel 11 months ago