lordzentie's comment is worng. abraham eztablished kaba. and it has been established when solomon did pilgrimge. then ppl converted it to idols worshipers a
The story presented here is quite fascinating, as most such stories are. But it cannot be accurate. The Solomon of Judaic history was born in 1011 BC, and Muhammad was born in AD 570. It seems unlikely that a king of the Jews would travel to Mecca on a pilgrimage since the tradition of the Hajj was established by Muhammad. Before Muhammad, the Kaaba was home to several hundreds of gods, so Solomon could not have worshiped there, even assuming that it had been built so early.
Since your knowledge seems so limited, let me help you. Many people used to go on pilgrimage to Mecca as it was accepted to be a place where everyone could worship their God. It was also known to be the place of worship of the one God of Abraham so although there were many idols present, believers of Allah also performed their pilgrimage. It was not Hajj the way it is today. There is nothing in the Holy Quran that is in any way inaccurate so I hope Allah guides you someday.
That is not accurate. No historic accounts of Mecca exist prior to the time of Ptolemy, and no temple to the god of the Jews existed there. Nor would any Jew, let alone a Jewish king have worshiped at a polytheistic shrine. The inaccuracies of the Quran are abundant as with all other holy books.
There are no inaccuracies in the Holy Quran. The inaccuracies in the other Holy books are due to the corruption of religious officials. What you have no knowledge of, you should choose not to comment on. Our belief is that every Prophet was a Muslim including Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them). The truth is that if one truly learned about Islam with an open mind, he would find that there is no possibility of falsehood in this religion.
@hamzillionaire "There are no inaccuracies in the Holy Quran. The inaccuracies in the other Holy books are due to the corruption of religious officials."
Please spare me the spin. Do you honestly think I haven't heard all of this before? As for inaccuracies exist in the Quran? The claim that the universe is created from water, the fact that the Earth was created in six days (and at the same time that it was created in eight days) etc, etc. It's no different from all the rest.
@LordZentei U obviously have no idea about the meaning of the Quranic verses assuming u have read it. Translations from arabic to english are tricky. For one arabic word there could be many different english translations. if u read Maurice Bucaille's book "THE BIBLE, THE QUR'AN AND SCIENCE" you will see what I mean. It will clear things up for u inshaallah. Btw i have read the quran and never does it mention that the universe was created in eight days or from water. READ THE BOOK
Ah, the good old argument "you don't know the meaning/you haven't read it", used by all religions.
Sorry, but there is nothing scientific about the Quran, if you understood science, you would know that. BTW, you need to review your book if you think that it doesn't say that the world was created in six or eight days.
@LordZentei lol at u. i see u havent read the quran. If u had u would know there are scientific facts in it and none of them contradict modern day discoveries. i have read maurice's book and incase u didnt notice its divided into two parts: what the bible says and what the quran says. U obviuosly haven't read the whole book or u have misread it. Its the christians who belive that the universe was created in 6 days. If u read the book u will see the quran contradicts this idea.
You are either a liar or an idiot. In the event that it is the latter, read the following passages from your book: 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, 50:38, 57:4, 41:9-12.
@LordZentei omg u're either a dumbass or a dyslexic. havent u been reading what ive been writing? Do u know how to read? I said to read the book called "The Bible, The Qur'an And science" by Maurice Bucaille. It explains the meaning of the scienific quranic verses and compares them to modern day discoveries. Yes even the ones where it says six days. It'll clarify what I've been trying to tell u. READ THE BOOK.
@LordZentei OMG u rlly don't know how to read do u? In my last post this is what I said: "havent u been reading what ive been writing?" This obviously refers to ALL my previous comments not just the previous one. In pretty much all of them I have told u to read the book called "The Bible, The Qur'an And Science" by Maurice Bucaille because it explains to u the meaning of quranic verses and compares them to modern day science. Read where it discusses the quranic view of Creation of the universe.
"U obviuosly haven't read the whole book or u have misread it. Its the christians who belive that the universe was created in 6 days. If u read the book u will see the quran contradicts this idea."
i assumed that u were talking about maurice bucaille's book. b/c that is the one i told u to read not the quran. If u read my comments again u will see that.
btw don't bother replying back. I hate arguing with ppl who can't even read properly.
You persist in your bullshit. The crux of the problem is that the Quran doesn't say what you and this "maurice bucaille" say it does. Moreover, you DID specify the Quran earlier, you were not just talking about Bucaille's book, as is quite clear from your comments, so you can quit lying anytime. BTW, if you don't want to participate in the discussion any more, just stop responding rather than trying to have the last word and telling me to leave.
@LordZentei If u read maurice's book properly u will see that the quran does actually say those things. Anyways i can see that u won't be persuaded no matter what. i suppose we can agree to disagree. It has been...interesting having this argument.
For crying out lout, I CITED VERSES IN THE QURAN TO YOU. It doesn't matter what "maurice" claims it says if you can simply read the actual Quaran itself and see that he is full of shit.
"Anyways i can see that u won't be persuaded no matter what. i suppose we can agree to disagree."
Yes, it will be difficult to convince me that the Quran doesn't speak of six day creation when I can read multiple passages in it speaking of six day creation.
@LordZentei Dear friend Qur'an does say the Universe created in 6 days but you have to read full in context and correct meaning.in other verses it also says that a day of Allah is like thousand years of ours so you can't simply say that the universe created in our normal 6 days.and also Qur'an also indicates that universe is expanding, it means that Universe came to exist as it is today not in one or 6 days of our normal days.so Qur'an should be explored in correct way and seek true source
This is the exact same excuse some Christian people use when attempting to defend their Bible. In fact, they even use the same buzzwords. Sorry, context does not support the idea that the Quaran is scientific, any more than it supports the Bible. Going by what you said, the Universe should have been created in 6000 years, but of course, it's 13.7 billion years old. For more stuff like this, look at the passage where it is said that the Sun sets in a muddy spring, for example.
@LordZentei you are talking 13.7 billion years as total of existence..but Qur'an doesn't talk that instead it confirms the expansion of the univers so you can't simply say that it is as it is today withing 6 days lol.can't you understand what I say?also in some verses it is symbolic and the talking about the appearance.when the Qur'an talks about the Sun sets in muddy water it doesn't mean in reality but in appearance in other verse the Quran says that the all planets are moving on its own orbit
You are not making any sense. If you claim that the Quran grants scientific knowledge, you cannot justify the claim of 6 day creation, even if you say that "one day = a thousand years". If you instead say that it is symbolic, then you can't say that it is scientific either. It just isn't scientific at all. BTW: commenting on the fact that the planets move in their orbits isn't "scientific", it's mere observation. It doesn't describe these orbits or the laws that govern them.
@LordZentei I have already said what I have to say but you are simply clinging on ur statement....the creation of the universe is process of expansion it is already mentioned in the qur'an...another thing is that Qur'an was not revealed to prove what science says...science is study it can either be true or false.... but Qur'an is the word of Allah....you can either accept it reject it u have right for that but you will have to face the result of ur decision..
@LordZentei 6 days are among the process of the expansion of the universe and still the universe is expanding Qur'an never says the Universe doesn't expand..so a 6 day should be in which Universe expanded certain level.... but not as whole as today since Qur'an itself says that the Universe is expanding lol....
"To a certain level"? What are you talking about? Nothing of particular note happened when the universe was six days old. And no, the Quran says nothing about the universe expanding. If you're talking about verse 51:48, then the Quran is not talking about the expanding universe, but a flat Earth which is spread out.
@hamzillionaire Dammit.... if you learn Islam... you'll get biased shit saying Muhammad is the last prophet ; you study Christianity, you'll get em' saying Muhammad is a cruel political bastard that's full of lies. Lesson here is, DO YOUR OWN F**KING HOMEWORK.....
mecca was not known to be a place of the 1 GOD of Abraham it's but a crock and you ppl know it stop using taqiyya, Tzion in Jerusalem was where the 1 true GOD of Abraham was worshipped period
in this video, i could say that the Sulayman of Muslims is totally different to King Solomon of the Bible. funny but the stories are closer to a fable than a real historical event. King Solomon is a historical being- his existence is verifiable not only in the bible but also in other contemporary writings of the time... truly, Muhammad was just a misinformed guy...
unIslamic video.. some1 that wants to learn about mechanical engineering goes to a mechanical engineer, some1 that wants to learn about his health goes to a doctor.. makes sense?
if yes then, some1 who wants to understand islam should go to a muslim scholar... these videos are not from islamic sources.. too bad..
In islam we should not draw pictures of the prophets because we don't know what they look like.
For example in Christianity Jesus is often drawn as having long golden or light brown hair with WHITE skin. The bible even said his feet was "the colour of Brass" - (Dark brown!)
Also notice that Hazrat Suleiman is given know respect (As-Salat was-Salam) in the commentary.
The whole series in this line are the same. Seems very unislamic to me.
i know that we should draw pictures of the any prophets. and i am agree with u on that.
Thank you For explain this to me. i now see how is this unislamic. cuz there r stories in bible about prophets. if these stories r correct then they should be same sorties in the Quran as well. so in other words we should only follow the stories of prophet from quran.
Yes you are correct there are stories which are similar in teh Bible inand the Quaran. You are also correct we should accept the stories ONLY form teh Quran.
Allah Says teh Quran was sent to confirm what was said before and also correct what has changed.
In the Quran you will see many difference in the stories if you look at the finer details of the stories.
A Crazy King, Talking Birds, Mumbling Ants, Flying Donkeys,
Quran seems scientific indeed.
forgottenmemories63 5 months ago
How can you people use bad words where life of a prophet is being told
10chinmaya 10 months ago
lordzentie's comment is worng. abraham eztablished kaba. and it has been established when solomon did pilgrimge. then ppl converted it to idols worshipers a
empathy70 1 year ago
The story presented here is quite fascinating, as most such stories are. But it cannot be accurate. The Solomon of Judaic history was born in 1011 BC, and Muhammad was born in AD 570. It seems unlikely that a king of the Jews would travel to Mecca on a pilgrimage since the tradition of the Hajj was established by Muhammad. Before Muhammad, the Kaaba was home to several hundreds of gods, so Solomon could not have worshiped there, even assuming that it had been built so early.
LordZentei 1 year ago
@LordZentei
Since your knowledge seems so limited, let me help you. Many people used to go on pilgrimage to Mecca as it was accepted to be a place where everyone could worship their God. It was also known to be the place of worship of the one God of Abraham so although there were many idols present, believers of Allah also performed their pilgrimage. It was not Hajj the way it is today. There is nothing in the Holy Quran that is in any way inaccurate so I hope Allah guides you someday.
hamzillionaire 1 year ago
@hamzillionaire
That is not accurate. No historic accounts of Mecca exist prior to the time of Ptolemy, and no temple to the god of the Jews existed there. Nor would any Jew, let alone a Jewish king have worshiped at a polytheistic shrine. The inaccuracies of the Quran are abundant as with all other holy books.
LordZentei 1 year ago
@LordZentei
There are no inaccuracies in the Holy Quran. The inaccuracies in the other Holy books are due to the corruption of religious officials. What you have no knowledge of, you should choose not to comment on. Our belief is that every Prophet was a Muslim including Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them). The truth is that if one truly learned about Islam with an open mind, he would find that there is no possibility of falsehood in this religion.
hamzillionaire 1 year ago
@hamzillionaire "There are no inaccuracies in the Holy Quran. The inaccuracies in the other Holy books are due to the corruption of religious officials."
Please spare me the spin. Do you honestly think I haven't heard all of this before? As for inaccuracies exist in the Quran? The claim that the universe is created from water, the fact that the Earth was created in six days (and at the same time that it was created in eight days) etc, etc. It's no different from all the rest.
LordZentei 1 year ago
@LordZentei U obviously have no idea about the meaning of the Quranic verses assuming u have read it. Translations from arabic to english are tricky. For one arabic word there could be many different english translations. if u read Maurice Bucaille's book "THE BIBLE, THE QUR'AN AND SCIENCE" you will see what I mean. It will clear things up for u inshaallah. Btw i have read the quran and never does it mention that the universe was created in eight days or from water. READ THE BOOK
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@xxhaszeexx
Ah, the good old argument "you don't know the meaning/you haven't read it", used by all religions.
Sorry, but there is nothing scientific about the Quran, if you understood science, you would know that. BTW, you need to review your book if you think that it doesn't say that the world was created in six or eight days.
LordZentei 11 months ago
@LordZentei lol at u. i see u havent read the quran. If u had u would know there are scientific facts in it and none of them contradict modern day discoveries. i have read maurice's book and incase u didnt notice its divided into two parts: what the bible says and what the quran says. U obviuosly haven't read the whole book or u have misread it. Its the christians who belive that the universe was created in 6 days. If u read the book u will see the quran contradicts this idea.
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@xxhaszeexx
You are either a liar or an idiot. In the event that it is the latter, read the following passages from your book: 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, 50:38, 57:4, 41:9-12.
"none of them contradict modern day discoveries"
LMAO.
LordZentei 11 months ago
@LordZentei omg u're either a dumbass or a dyslexic. havent u been reading what ive been writing? Do u know how to read? I said to read the book called "The Bible, The Qur'an And science" by Maurice Bucaille. It explains the meaning of the scienific quranic verses and compares them to modern day discoveries. Yes even the ones where it says six days. It'll clarify what I've been trying to tell u. READ THE BOOK.
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@xxhaszeexx
Ah, so you are a liar, then. You explicitly spoke of the Quran in your most recent post. This is what you said:
"i see u havent read the quran. If u had u would know there are scientific facts in it and none of them contradict modern day discoveries"
And in addition, you said the following:
"Its the christians who belive that the universe was created in 6 days. If u read the book u will see the quran contradicts this idea."
Except the Quran doesn't do that. You lose.
LordZentei 11 months ago
@LordZentei OMG u rlly don't know how to read do u? In my last post this is what I said: "havent u been reading what ive been writing?" This obviously refers to ALL my previous comments not just the previous one. In pretty much all of them I have told u to read the book called "The Bible, The Qur'an And Science" by Maurice Bucaille because it explains to u the meaning of quranic verses and compares them to modern day science. Read where it discusses the quranic view of Creation of the universe.
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@LordZentei In the comment u were refering to
"U obviuosly haven't read the whole book or u have misread it. Its the christians who belive that the universe was created in 6 days. If u read the book u will see the quran contradicts this idea."
i assumed that u were talking about maurice bucaille's book. b/c that is the one i told u to read not the quran. If u read my comments again u will see that.
btw don't bother replying back. I hate arguing with ppl who can't even read properly.
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@xxhaszeexx
You persist in your bullshit. The crux of the problem is that the Quran doesn't say what you and this "maurice bucaille" say it does. Moreover, you DID specify the Quran earlier, you were not just talking about Bucaille's book, as is quite clear from your comments, so you can quit lying anytime. BTW, if you don't want to participate in the discussion any more, just stop responding rather than trying to have the last word and telling me to leave.
LordZentei 11 months ago
@LordZentei If u read maurice's book properly u will see that the quran does actually say those things. Anyways i can see that u won't be persuaded no matter what. i suppose we can agree to disagree. It has been...interesting having this argument.
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@xxhaszeexx
For crying out lout, I CITED VERSES IN THE QURAN TO YOU. It doesn't matter what "maurice" claims it says if you can simply read the actual Quaran itself and see that he is full of shit.
"Anyways i can see that u won't be persuaded no matter what. i suppose we can agree to disagree."
Yes, it will be difficult to convince me that the Quran doesn't speak of six day creation when I can read multiple passages in it speaking of six day creation.
LordZentei 11 months ago
@LordZentei Dear friend Qur'an does say the Universe created in 6 days but you have to read full in context and correct meaning.in other verses it also says that a day of Allah is like thousand years of ours so you can't simply say that the universe created in our normal 6 days.and also Qur'an also indicates that universe is expanding, it means that Universe came to exist as it is today not in one or 6 days of our normal days.so Qur'an should be explored in correct way and seek true source
jery61007 6 months ago
@jery61007
This is the exact same excuse some Christian people use when attempting to defend their Bible. In fact, they even use the same buzzwords. Sorry, context does not support the idea that the Quaran is scientific, any more than it supports the Bible. Going by what you said, the Universe should have been created in 6000 years, but of course, it's 13.7 billion years old. For more stuff like this, look at the passage where it is said that the Sun sets in a muddy spring, for example.
LordZentei 6 months ago
@LordZentei you are talking 13.7 billion years as total of existence..but Qur'an doesn't talk that instead it confirms the expansion of the univers so you can't simply say that it is as it is today withing 6 days lol.can't you understand what I say?also in some verses it is symbolic and the talking about the appearance.when the Qur'an talks about the Sun sets in muddy water it doesn't mean in reality but in appearance in other verse the Quran says that the all planets are moving on its own orbit
jery61007 6 months ago
@jery61007
You are not making any sense. If you claim that the Quran grants scientific knowledge, you cannot justify the claim of 6 day creation, even if you say that "one day = a thousand years". If you instead say that it is symbolic, then you can't say that it is scientific either. It just isn't scientific at all. BTW: commenting on the fact that the planets move in their orbits isn't "scientific", it's mere observation. It doesn't describe these orbits or the laws that govern them.
LordZentei 6 months ago
@LordZentei I have already said what I have to say but you are simply clinging on ur statement....the creation of the universe is process of expansion it is already mentioned in the qur'an...another thing is that Qur'an was not revealed to prove what science says...science is study it can either be true or false.... but Qur'an is the word of Allah....you can either accept it reject it u have right for that but you will have to face the result of ur decision..
jery61007 5 months ago
@LordZentei 6 days are among the process of the expansion of the universe and still the universe is expanding Qur'an never says the Universe doesn't expand..so a 6 day should be in which Universe expanded certain level.... but not as whole as today since Qur'an itself says that the Universe is expanding lol....
jery61007 5 months ago
@jery61007
"To a certain level"? What are you talking about? Nothing of particular note happened when the universe was six days old. And no, the Quran says nothing about the universe expanding. If you're talking about verse 51:48, then the Quran is not talking about the expanding universe, but a flat Earth which is spread out.
LordZentei 5 months ago
@LordZentei search the book on google and go to the first link
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@LordZentei
search the book on google if u want to read it ( I highly recommend it for u) and go to the first link
xxhaszeexx 11 months ago
@hamzillionaire Dammit.... if you learn Islam... you'll get biased shit saying Muhammad is the last prophet ; you study Christianity, you'll get em' saying Muhammad is a cruel political bastard that's full of lies. Lesson here is, DO YOUR OWN F**KING HOMEWORK.....
ClementIsInsane 1 year ago
@LordZentei
i love you.
alixinthemiddle 1 year ago
@hamzillionaire
mecca was not known to be a place of the 1 GOD of Abraham it's but a crock and you ppl know it stop using taqiyya, Tzion in Jerusalem was where the 1 true GOD of Abraham was worshipped period
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hamzillionaire
the remains of Solomons Temple have been found in YISRAEL not mecca
hannahr77 1 year ago
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MrCade2010 1 year ago
listen to a short video on Ramadan by ahmed moait
betruthfull 1 year ago
in this video, i could say that the Sulayman of Muslims is totally different to King Solomon of the Bible. funny but the stories are closer to a fable than a real historical event. King Solomon is a historical being- his existence is verifiable not only in the bible but also in other contemporary writings of the time... truly, Muhammad was just a misinformed guy...
ferdinand138799 1 year ago
Subhanallah
prepuce83 1 year ago
if u want soemthing like this... the videos on Harun yahaya's site are good!!
golguppy 2 years ago
this story iz true..and its writen in the holly book of god(Al-Quran)..
superfly666 3 years ago 14
@superfly666
and There's a Wocket in My Pocket by Dr. Seuss is absolute fact.
alixinthemiddle 1 year ago
unIslamic video.. some1 that wants to learn about mechanical engineering goes to a mechanical engineer, some1 that wants to learn about his health goes to a doctor.. makes sense?
if yes then, some1 who wants to understand islam should go to a muslim scholar... these videos are not from islamic sources.. too bad..
platinumplat 3 years ago
how is this unlslamic video ?
can you explain to me please.
psphunter1 3 years ago
In islam we should not draw pictures of the prophets because we don't know what they look like.
For example in Christianity Jesus is often drawn as having long golden or light brown hair with WHITE skin. The bible even said his feet was "the colour of Brass" - (Dark brown!)
Also notice that Hazrat Suleiman is given know respect (As-Salat was-Salam) in the commentary.
The whole series in this line are the same. Seems very unislamic to me.
SonnyCash1 2 years ago
i know that we should draw pictures of the any prophets. and i am agree with u on that.
Thank you For explain this to me. i now see how is this unislamic. cuz there r stories in bible about prophets. if these stories r correct then they should be same sorties in the Quran as well. so in other words we should only follow the stories of prophet from quran.
psphunter1 2 years ago
Yes you are correct there are stories which are similar in teh Bible inand the Quaran. You are also correct we should accept the stories ONLY form teh Quran.
Allah Says teh Quran was sent to confirm what was said before and also correct what has changed.
In the Quran you will see many difference in the stories if you look at the finer details of the stories.
SonnyCash1 2 years ago