George Hargreaves has the face of a turtle and his brain is concealed within the shell skilfully hidden by clever tailoring . He with a lot of training could pass for human but sadly his learning ability ceased in his formative years a century ago . bless him for trying.
@clifran He's a very intelligent man and I wish him all the best. He's one of the view voices left for Christian values which are gradually being swept aside by the pro-secular propaganda.
Science has neither proven or disproven religion; whatever way you look at is. God is the supernatural, as in he is beyond science. There might not be a huge lot of scientific evidence, but it is all about FAITH.
@DigitizedSoul (Continued) are telling me that you are a thiest, you are simply saying you believe in a god. That is the issue I have here. The truth is, it's been proven that prodominantly athiest countries have the best education rates and lowest crime rates in the world. I'm not making that up for my own convinience, it's a proven fact.
Religion does not bring about technological advancements. Einstein and all the great minds were athiests. The rest were closet atheists.
Let me be clear.. because in fairness my last comment was not. I am Atheist.
I am not only Atheist but I believe strongly in secularism, and think that for modern society it is crucial. You can be stupid and still not believe in god. How many stupid people do you know that believe in faries? It is not clever to be atheist, only .. in my opinion, a mistake not to be.
I know some people with some REALLY stupid ideas...
Some of these stupid ideas are Christianity, "Spiritualism", Islam...
I dont think they are stupid people, only that somehow they compartmentalize their thinking and somehow do not apply the same logic and intelligence to "Faith" issues as everything else. this is a shame.
My comment about wars was supposed to be a bit tongue in cheek, sorry that was unclear.
40% of people in polls say they're atheist and less than 10% of the population goes to church. How could they ever win on an evangelical ticket? All the atheists (humanists/agnostics), liberal and moderate Christians, and other religious voters won't support them if they have any sense. So how can they win seats?
I just heard an interview with Nick in which he paid tribute to Reverend Hargreaves and said that the Christian party and the BNP would work together for the people of Barking and the restoration of Christian and British values there. So I take back what I said in the earlier deleted comment. We need truth from politicians now and bithe the BNP and the Christian party should refuse to sink to the level the other parties have and remain united.
@blenkarni So do you think Jesus would tell his flock to vote for the BNP then? Do the values of Christianity and a far right-wing Neo Nazi group match?
@jatt440 Both the BNP and the Christian party are a pile of shite. Both wish to impose one narrow minded way of thinking on the whole country and both are never, in a million years run the country. Even if they have one seat in parliament, they go against the best intrests of the general public.
@jatt440 Yes, Christian fundamentalists are always extremely right wing and racist, that's just a fact. Normal Christians are just deluded, but hardcore ones that believe in ending abortion rights are all racist fascists who deserve to be deported.
@SammyCool321 Ha ha ha, you religious cunt. Religion should be banned. It is the worst thing that has ever happened. The christian party is exactly the same as the BNP.
@ToaJoe A cunt for being religious? Well, good luck getting into heaven mate. I won't call you one back because I am better than you. The Christian Party is based on Christian values, but the BNP on Nazi values. They are completely different.
@SammyCool321 I LOLED at that. I'll rephrase the whole thing. If you were born a Christian, I feel sorry for you. You are the product of repulsive brainwashing. If you converted, I don't pity you, I simply think you're a fool.
Nazi values and Christian values different? Not really. Hitler was a roman catholic. Christians believe in persecution of jews, muslims and all the other bullshit religions- so did Hitler. That's just one example. I could go on.
@ToaJoe I found Jesus for myself thank you, and I am glad I did. Hitler was not a proper Christian, nor are Nazis. Christians don't believe in discriminating against people based on what they look like. Every ethnicity of the human race is created in the image of God. So for example, if someone is offending someone because they are white, black or Asian, then they are offending God. As for the persecuting Jews bit... did you know that Jesus was Jewish?
@SammyCool321 You see? There you go. "Not REAL Christians."
You're wrong. This is just like my Muslim friend who said that Bin Laden wasn't a 'REAL Muslim'. Christians DO believe in discrmination- that is why they have spent the last thousand years slaughtering every other fantasy story religion like Islam.
All these things, like charity and caring for the elderly, are not RELIGIOUS values. You stick your repulsive christian name on it, but it has nothing to do with religion.
@ToaJoe The last thousand years? That barely describes contemporary Christianity at all. The vast majority of Christians are peaceful, as are Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus etc.
You can be charitable and caring without being a Christian, but the bible still teaches to be charitable and caring for others. Anyone that does follow the bible should be charitable and caring.
@SammyCool321 You don't understand. Of course most religious folk are peaceful. I don't have an issue with religious folk. It's religion itself I have an issue with. None of the holy books are peaceful. They preach hatred and death. That is why creationists are insane. All this 'peaceful' and 'giving to the poor' positive influences in the holy books have NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. That is simply good human nature. The bible is evil.
@ToaJoe I admit that the bible does show God as angry a lot of the time, but it also shows him loving a lot of the time. But it isn't his fault, but it is our fault for doing some sinful things. But most importantly in Christianity there is Christ, who is very loving, and God sent him because he loves us. So that we can have eternal life with him. In heaven there is no death.
@SammyCool321 That's a great fantasy story you came up with there. Maybe you should publish it.
The bible also says that you will burn in hell for being an athiest, yet if you rape or murder someone, and ask for forgiveness, you will go to heaven. In fact, it says that if a rapist marries the rape victim and apologizes, they are forgiven by god. Half the bible preaches goodness- which has nothing to do with religion, it's simply good human nature- the other half is pure evil.
@ToaJoe I didn't just come up with it. It is in the bible. Who says humans are naturally good natured? Naturally, humans are both good and evil. People have to accept God and try to overcome all evil. And you are right, by asking for forgiveness, you can get into heaven.
@SammyCool321 Religion is the cancer of history. The worst thing to ever exist. A rapist can talk to a fantasy man in the sky and be forgiven, therefore go to heaven, yet an athiest who has done nothing wrong at all will burn in hell? That sums up your god- violent, hateful, angry, racist, homophobic etc.
Sorry, but athiests are always more clever than that. We can (and have) destroyed all of your arguments. But scientific proof means nothing to religion- rather stupidly.
@ToaJoe Anyone who believe in Jesus Christ and asks for forgiveness will be forgiven, and instead of dying, they will have eternal life. We are all sinful, so if Jesus wasn't there to forgive us, then yes, none of us would enter heaven. It is through the grace of God that we can enter. If you hear the Christian message and reject it completely, then that is your choice to reject God. You could easily believe and accept God/Jesus if you wanted. God does love us. That is why he sent his only son.
@SammyCool321 Well already I have proven the bible wrong. God is not omnipotent, because he hates athiests. So your bible is wrong.
Science cannot disprove god- no more so than it can disprove a flying rabbit as a universal creator- but it has 100% disproven every holy book created.
@ToaJoe Firstly, I should say there are plenty of stupid Atheists - just as there are some genius Creationists. Being horribly wrong about one thing doesn't invalidate your opinion about everything else.
Secondly, until recently I would suggest that most of our largest technological advancements have come from war. So there is a silver lining to religion :)
@DigitizedSoul I strongly dispute that. To be an athiest, you require intelligence, because you are rejecting a fantasy story. There is a difference between simply being a theist (which doesn't make you stupid), and being a Christian/Muslim. You see, every single story in the Quarran and Bible can be disproven. It has nothing to do with belief in god. When you say you follow the bible, you are telling me that you support rape, the killing of homosexuals, and sexism. If, on the other hand, you
I was very dissapointed that the Reverered Hargreaves whom I thought to be a friend of the BNP is endorsing the leftist fascist thugs 'Hope Not Hate' who barracked outside the Christian Debate on Genesis TV, on his election poster.
George Hargreaves has the face of a turtle and his brain is concealed within the shell skilfully hidden by clever tailoring . He with a lot of training could pass for human but sadly his learning ability ceased in his formative years a century ago . bless him for trying.
clifran 6 months ago
@clifran He's a very intelligent man and I wish him all the best. He's one of the view voices left for Christian values which are gradually being swept aside by the pro-secular propaganda.
MrEnlighteneddespot 5 months ago
This guy wrote the song "So Macho", a gay pride anthem. LOL
Udany147 6 months ago
Science has neither proven or disproven religion; whatever way you look at is. God is the supernatural, as in he is beyond science. There might not be a huge lot of scientific evidence, but it is all about FAITH.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 you could say the same about faeries at the bottom of the garden though... it doesn't make for an argument.
DigitizedSoul 1 year ago
@DigitizedSoul (Continued) are telling me that you are a thiest, you are simply saying you believe in a god. That is the issue I have here. The truth is, it's been proven that prodominantly athiest countries have the best education rates and lowest crime rates in the world. I'm not making that up for my own convinience, it's a proven fact.
Religion does not bring about technological advancements. Einstein and all the great minds were athiests. The rest were closet atheists.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe
Let me be clear.. because in fairness my last comment was not. I am Atheist.
I am not only Atheist but I believe strongly in secularism, and think that for modern society it is crucial. You can be stupid and still not believe in god. How many stupid people do you know that believe in faries? It is not clever to be atheist, only .. in my opinion, a mistake not to be.
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@ToaJoe (continued)
I know some people with some REALLY stupid ideas...
Some of these stupid ideas are Christianity, "Spiritualism", Islam...
I dont think they are stupid people, only that somehow they compartmentalize their thinking and somehow do not apply the same logic and intelligence to "Faith" issues as everything else. this is a shame.
My comment about wars was supposed to be a bit tongue in cheek, sorry that was unclear.
DigitizedSoul 1 year ago 4
@DigitizedSoul If you believe in faries and want to support a fairy political party, then you have the right to do that.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
thank you, but that dont make it right. I was just arguing that making something "a matter of faith" does not really make much sense.
DigitizedSoul 1 year ago
If christians would unite we could have
George as our next priminister.
Such a shame that there is no unity within the body.
ogiaag5m 1 year ago
40% of people in polls say they're atheist and less than 10% of the population goes to church. How could they ever win on an evangelical ticket? All the atheists (humanists/agnostics), liberal and moderate Christians, and other religious voters won't support them if they have any sense. So how can they win seats?
BungleZippie 1 year ago
The Christian party could well be more vile and disgusting than the BNP
ToaJoe 1 year ago
I just heard an interview with Nick in which he paid tribute to Reverend Hargreaves and said that the Christian party and the BNP would work together for the people of Barking and the restoration of Christian and British values there. So I take back what I said in the earlier deleted comment. We need truth from politicians now and bithe the BNP and the Christian party should refuse to sink to the level the other parties have and remain united.
blenkarni 1 year ago
@blenkarni So do you think Jesus would tell his flock to vote for the BNP then? Do the values of Christianity and a far right-wing Neo Nazi group match?
Would be interested to know ur views on this
jatt440 1 year ago
@jatt440 Both the BNP and the Christian party are a pile of shite. Both wish to impose one narrow minded way of thinking on the whole country and both are never, in a million years run the country. Even if they have one seat in parliament, they go against the best intrests of the general public.
urtv1 1 year ago
@jatt440 Yes, Christian fundamentalists are always extremely right wing and racist, that's just a fact. Normal Christians are just deluded, but hardcore ones that believe in ending abortion rights are all racist fascists who deserve to be deported.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I don't see how being against a baby being murdered makes you a racist
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 Ha ha ha, you religious cunt. Religion should be banned. It is the worst thing that has ever happened. The christian party is exactly the same as the BNP.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe A cunt for being religious? Well, good luck getting into heaven mate. I won't call you one back because I am better than you. The Christian Party is based on Christian values, but the BNP on Nazi values. They are completely different.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 I LOLED at that. I'll rephrase the whole thing. If you were born a Christian, I feel sorry for you. You are the product of repulsive brainwashing. If you converted, I don't pity you, I simply think you're a fool.
Nazi values and Christian values different? Not really. Hitler was a roman catholic. Christians believe in persecution of jews, muslims and all the other bullshit religions- so did Hitler. That's just one example. I could go on.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I found Jesus for myself thank you, and I am glad I did. Hitler was not a proper Christian, nor are Nazis. Christians don't believe in discriminating against people based on what they look like. Every ethnicity of the human race is created in the image of God. So for example, if someone is offending someone because they are white, black or Asian, then they are offending God. As for the persecuting Jews bit... did you know that Jesus was Jewish?
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 You see? There you go. "Not REAL Christians."
You're wrong. This is just like my Muslim friend who said that Bin Laden wasn't a 'REAL Muslim'. Christians DO believe in discrmination- that is why they have spent the last thousand years slaughtering every other fantasy story religion like Islam.
All these things, like charity and caring for the elderly, are not RELIGIOUS values. You stick your repulsive christian name on it, but it has nothing to do with religion.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe The last thousand years? That barely describes contemporary Christianity at all. The vast majority of Christians are peaceful, as are Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus etc.
You can be charitable and caring without being a Christian, but the bible still teaches to be charitable and caring for others. Anyone that does follow the bible should be charitable and caring.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 You don't understand. Of course most religious folk are peaceful. I don't have an issue with religious folk. It's religion itself I have an issue with. None of the holy books are peaceful. They preach hatred and death. That is why creationists are insane. All this 'peaceful' and 'giving to the poor' positive influences in the holy books have NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION. That is simply good human nature. The bible is evil.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I admit that the bible does show God as angry a lot of the time, but it also shows him loving a lot of the time. But it isn't his fault, but it is our fault for doing some sinful things. But most importantly in Christianity there is Christ, who is very loving, and God sent him because he loves us. So that we can have eternal life with him. In heaven there is no death.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 That's a great fantasy story you came up with there. Maybe you should publish it.
The bible also says that you will burn in hell for being an athiest, yet if you rape or murder someone, and ask for forgiveness, you will go to heaven. In fact, it says that if a rapist marries the rape victim and apologizes, they are forgiven by god. Half the bible preaches goodness- which has nothing to do with religion, it's simply good human nature- the other half is pure evil.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe I didn't just come up with it. It is in the bible. Who says humans are naturally good natured? Naturally, humans are both good and evil. People have to accept God and try to overcome all evil. And you are right, by asking for forgiveness, you can get into heaven.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 Religion is the cancer of history. The worst thing to ever exist. A rapist can talk to a fantasy man in the sky and be forgiven, therefore go to heaven, yet an athiest who has done nothing wrong at all will burn in hell? That sums up your god- violent, hateful, angry, racist, homophobic etc.
Sorry, but athiests are always more clever than that. We can (and have) destroyed all of your arguments. But scientific proof means nothing to religion- rather stupidly.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Anyone who believe in Jesus Christ and asks for forgiveness will be forgiven, and instead of dying, they will have eternal life. We are all sinful, so if Jesus wasn't there to forgive us, then yes, none of us would enter heaven. It is through the grace of God that we can enter. If you hear the Christian message and reject it completely, then that is your choice to reject God. You could easily believe and accept God/Jesus if you wanted. God does love us. That is why he sent his only son.
SammyCool321 1 year ago
@SammyCool321 Well already I have proven the bible wrong. God is not omnipotent, because he hates athiests. So your bible is wrong.
Science cannot disprove god- no more so than it can disprove a flying rabbit as a universal creator- but it has 100% disproven every holy book created.
ToaJoe 1 year ago
@ToaJoe Firstly, I should say there are plenty of stupid Atheists - just as there are some genius Creationists. Being horribly wrong about one thing doesn't invalidate your opinion about everything else.
Secondly, until recently I would suggest that most of our largest technological advancements have come from war. So there is a silver lining to religion :)
DigitizedSoul 1 year ago
@DigitizedSoul I strongly dispute that. To be an athiest, you require intelligence, because you are rejecting a fantasy story. There is a difference between simply being a theist (which doesn't make you stupid), and being a Christian/Muslim. You see, every single story in the Quarran and Bible can be disproven. It has nothing to do with belief in god. When you say you follow the bible, you are telling me that you support rape, the killing of homosexuals, and sexism. If, on the other hand, you
ToaJoe 1 year ago
Very nice chap.
GoodFightLad 1 year ago
I was very dissapointed that the Reverered Hargreaves whom I thought to be a friend of the BNP is endorsing the leftist fascist thugs 'Hope Not Hate' who barracked outside the Christian Debate on Genesis TV, on his election poster.
thoughtly 1 year ago