Good job Kirk and Ray! Keep spreading the good news! You are doing God's will by sharing his word, what people do or don't do with that knowledge is now up to them as individuals..That is why he gave us free will and we are not his slaves, it is our choice to have a relationship with him. I have only been saved for 5 years and I have seen his incredible work in my life. I Pray that everyone gets to know Jesus and the joy he brings to our lives! Remember you have FREE WILL he didn't make robots.
A better second absolute statement woulda been "there is a god" But he cant say that cuz then he would be fucked. For some reason when i look at these two i cant help but imagine that Ray keeps Kirk in a cage at his home and they live out some sort of S&M Master/slave relationship. I think both of them are just in it for the money. They know how to sell a product well and they know their aduiance.
@thenoaha9999 So, you should believe in "the flying spegetti monster" (but you won do beacouse your mind can't think it, is illogical and you know it) I believe in Jesús.
Nope your not free your a slave anyone who sins is a slave to sin and your enjoying the pleasures of it. But remember it's only for a season. Life could end tomorrow and without the righteousness of Christ you'll end up in hell forever.
@cplagoons Next, on to Ray's arguments. Firstly, I see my car and Mechanics almost everyday. Thus I know my car was made. I see the world everyday, but no creator. Thus it is reasonable to assume the world was not made by a consciece creator. Again with gravity. We see the effects of gravity everyday. If I jump I will fall, whether i believe it or not. We do not see the effects of God everyday. God only takes effect after death. NOT when we can see him. Convenient eh?
@cplagoons I beg to differ. If you have 25,000+ reasons, please share a source. I will rattle a few off the top of my head. Firstly, the bible is the only known source to claim that the entire people of israel were held in slavery by egyptions. Thats kinda big. I want more evidence. Secondly, though it seems silly to refute, If the entire world flooded in the time of Noah, the entire world would be covered in saltwater. How did fresh water animals survive?
@cplagoons It does not disregard any findings from history except for the supernatural. Turning water into wine etc. is comic bookish. Some guy getting crucified because he was viewed as a threat is believable. So when we find ancient site that lines up with your idol it is real but when we find one of the Greeks it is not? This is a double standard. If we used your logic we would have to believe everything that was ever written, as long as we could find New York, Superman is real and can fly.
@cplagoons Achilles fought in Troy. They found the real city of Troy therefore Achilles is a real person with magic powers. Here is a more common one, Superman lives in New York.. You know the rest. The Statue of Zeus at Olympia was rediscovered in 1954 does that make Zeus real. Just because you find a location does not mean that it confirms that magic and gods are real.
@cplagoons With that kind of logic you could prove the Greek gods are real. Finding cities and artifacts does not prove miracles happen or prove gods are real.
...this guy is not much of an atheist.... looks more like one of kirk's acting buddies trying to pretend he's an atheist for the show...lame attempt... but that's how dishonest they are...
i see alot of running. if fear. indeed if they do not gather wirth him they scatter. and are deeply afraid to look into the other side adn as could it be right.
Atheists do not claim that there is no God. They do not believe in God. Agnostics and atheists are not 2 separate groups. I am an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in a God, but I accept that I do not know for sure that one does not exist.
WE cant SAVE anybody people!!! You make the decisions we just spread the truth wether you believe in it or not... your decsion just like its my decision to believe and love jesus :D
How can Kirk Cameroon actually be so damn stupid? According to his logic he can't be sure there are no tooth fairies! By 1) claiming that there are no tooth fairies you make an absolute statement but since 2) no one has absolute knowledge you cant make an absolute statement. So because 3) We can't know that there are no tooth fairies all people that dont believe in tooth fairies are stupid. Aaahh! Don't we humans have this beautiful thing called brain that enables us to draw logical conclusions?
Here's the deal: even if they can convince someone that there's a god that created everything, that doesn't equate to a god that authored the bible and did everything it claims. That's the same kind of conclusion jumping that leads them to thinking that evolution (and science in general, it seems) and god can't co-exist.
Well done Kirk and Ray for picking the dumbest "atheists" you can find to represent us all. If you simply switch all your arguments FOR god and substitute NO GOD, all arguments can be justified. Another note, painters and builders are listed in the yellow pages, call them and get a building built. Where is the listing for universe creators? Exactly! my example is as pathetic as yours....
Atheists claim no knowledge outside our physical perspective. We are humble enough to say that all things are possible but some things, based on current evidence, are highly unlikely. Christians and other religions are arrogant enough to claim knowledge of what they do not and cannot know based on individual faith. I'm siding with the men in white coats.
Of course we don't know everything about everything. We know nothing about the outer reaches of the universe, the depths of the oceans and many other things. But we (atheists) don't make up shit or believe in stupid bullshit to fill those gaps in our knowledge. I don't know is a viable answer to a scientest
The same argument can be used against those religious people who claim that there's a god. In addition, most atheists, at least the ones I know, only claim that there isn't any empirical eveidence to warrant the belief in a god or gods. If "god" is defined in ways that contradicts well established facts about reality, then it's perfectly reasonable to deny the existence of such a god.
most of the people don´t like this video... im not surprised... bible says a lot of people will hate who shares that jesus died on the cross, good news.
Why does god make all of us poo everyday ??? Really, Why ? I mean, If we're so far above and greater than the animals, why do we have to poo ? I'm tired of it. Please god, make it to where you don't force us to poo anymore.
hey guys if you dont agree , you better keep your thoughts to yourself, noone is forcing you to believe. Its so clear and simple, who could be dumber to deny the truth, sadly, the 238 and more dislikes.
@sruthiize A lot of these video's have the ratings disabled specifically for that reason. You know, open forum, freedom of speach and all that. Apparently it's pretty incompatible with religion. If the ratings are disabled I will let people know I don't like them telling me (with a smile) that I'm going to hell. Or that gay people should have less rights etc. The ratings just show that most people don't like this video. Deal with it.
@FHomeBrew well why do you always think you are not going to heaven, if you want to know more about Christianity, dont just stick with one video, you have to expand your knowledge about it before denying it. Being gay is immoral according to Christian standards, but that doesn't mean you have to shut those people and talk trash about them all day. Jesus loves all sinners but hates their sins. But at the end of the day it is their choice to change and accept him, Jesus in my life is everything.
@sruthiize I don't think I'm going to heaven or hell, the christians think that about me. I've read enough of the bible and heard enough of the arguments to tell I don't have to believe it. I'm not talking trash about them I think, but we probably do need to do something about people who discriminate based on their beliefs (discrimination against gays for instance). Why do you worship the guy who created the place where most people will be tortured forever?
Wait, so you're saying it's not okay to say you don't believe in something which there is NO evidence for, but you close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears when presented with any evidence that goes against your blinkered world view?
they dont know .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
and based of what we do know there is know proof of god and most of what a person doesnt know has nothing to do with god and if you can see at what we cant see in space their wouldnt be a god and saying that their is this much we dont know is an uneducated guess (and "the maker" is the laws of physics dipshit)
they dont know .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
and based of what we do know there is know proof of god and most of what a person doesnt know has nothing to do with god and if you can see at what we cant see in space their wouldnt be a god and saying that their is this much we dont know is an uneducated guess
Agnostic isn't a religion, it's a state of your religious being.
If I'm an Atheist, then I do not believe in god, but this isn't very specific. Therefore, the terms GNOSTIC and AGNOSTIC are used to classify my knowledge of my beliefs.
AGNOSTIC means that you aren't fully knowledgable.
GNOSTIC means you are all knowing.
There are no true gnostics in the world, it is literally impossible.
I would call myself an Agnostic Atheist, I don't believe in God, but it's possible there MAY be a God.
Frogs cannot fly. I know very little about Frogs yet I can say that statement with complete certainty. I don't have to check every frog. Frogs can't fly. Even flying frogs don't fly.
It's funny how they say that people can't have all the knowledge, and yet they act like they know everything and are the absolute owners of all reason.
he argues well, none of the other interviewed ppl have made me think. when he said that if none of us are good, then that means everyone goes to hell?
@bellacinderellakk No. If you don't accept Jesus' payment for your sin, you pay for your sins in Hell. I accepted Jesus' payment, so I ain't going to Hell. God won't allow innocent blood to go to Hell, so babies and mentally challenged people will be spared from Hell. But all those that have a fully functional brain and full awareness of right and wrong need Jesus' gift of salvation. It's free. You don't need a priest or a church or religion or baptism to accept the gift.Just "Romans 10:9"
These guys do an absolutely wonderful job of showing the incredible ignorance of Christianity. Keep it up guys, and we'll be free of the evil of religion in no time.
@bmorgan2814 Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is you accepting salvation from your sins through Jesus the Christ. That the true definition of Christianity. YOU making a choice to be cleansed of your sins by the blood that Jesus shed on the cross. No religion needed. Ignorance is something like believing the words of Darwin and rejecting the power of the God. Ignorance is something like looking like you got it all together on the outside when your life is hell on the inside.
@icemikeguard I was an evangelical christian and a paid church staff member for twenty years. I do not need a lesson on what Christianity is (especially from someone who doesn't even know the meaning of the word religion). And as a matter of fact, it is supreme ignorance to believe in something for which there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER, like god for example, and totally ignore scientific fact, which proves evidience for anything it postulates.
@icemikeguard And for the record, my life was a total hell until I stopped chasing a God that wasn't there and took responsibility for my own life. I have been happy and fufilled ever since the day I stopped believing in the Christian fairy-tale. Here's hoping you'll one day come to know the peace I know and have that can only come from believing in NO god.
@bmorgan2814 Technically there is no such thing as an evangelical Christian. It just Christian - a true believer and follower of Jesus Christ. Just because you worked in the church doesn't mean that the church was in your heart. How can you serve and worship amoung God's people for 20 years and now have a personal crusade to discourge others who want to establish a relationship with God? Was the church you worshipped at for 20 years a complete phoney? Was your pastor a liar? Did they hate?
@icemikeguard The "Evangelical" reference is merely a distinction. In other words, I was not a "passive" christian like, say, a Methodist or Presbyterian, I was a member of a fundamental Baptist church. And no, they weren't phony, they were sincere in their beliefs as much as you are, and most of them did their very best to live in accordance to Christian doctrine.
@icemikeguard And as far as I know none of them ever hated anyone (outside of the normal prejudices so often associated with christianity). I still have friends from the church days, although a few of them lament my current world view. I suppose the case could be made that I "never had Jesus in my heart," but if that is the case, then it would be impossible for him to EVER be there. I gave myself to the church as much as is humanly possible, and you will find no one who would dispute this.
Respond to this video... And I have no personal crusade, except to be honest with anyone I meet. I read the Bible cover to cover, studied every commentary I could get my hands on, prayed and sought as much as I knew how. But the more I studied, the more it became clear that the Bible is not only inaccurate in terms of history and science, it is also not a very good basis for morality.
@bmorgan2814 I, I, I, I. That's all you seem to focus on. Why don't you reflect on all of the times God saved your life? Why don't you reflect on how many times God blessed you in spite of the bad things you've done? Why don't you reflect on the prayers ANSWERED? You've been hurt and you've hurt quite a few people, but God has always protected you. You should read the bible so the bible can show you who you are (the good, the bad, the ugly). The bible is first a mirror, not clear glass
@icemikeguard What makes you think I am hurt? And what you think I am focused on myself? You questioned me, and I gave the appropriate response. If you paid any attention to what I said earlier, I HAVE read the bible, cover to cover. And I would be willing to bet, judging from what you type, that I know far more about your bible than you do. And you don't know anything about me. I am not hurt, and I have hurt no one. I have no enemies. I have a happy life. You don't sound very happy.
@bmorgan2814 You called Christianity ignorance and implied it was evil. See how it feels when you make generalizations and put people in a category they don't deserve to be in. And the irony of it is, you admitted you are friends with Christians and you know that many of us are nice people. There are bad people, who do bad things in all walks of life. But a Christian's first mandate is to love God, love your neighbor, love yourself.
come on now people. SO many of you are complaining about an "absolute" statement and making up all kinds of silly things. I KNOW for sure that 1 + 1 =2. I can say that with absolute proof, but I do NOT know everything about every mathematical problem in the world. One CAN know that math is an abosulte science, just like one can know that God is absolute, and not know EVERY detail about all of the innerworkings thereof.
@sylvanha - TRUE - but one CAN make an absolute statement when one knows for a fact that that statement is absolutely true. It is EASY to know for sure that God is absolutely real. Just like we know that the force of gravity is absolutely REAL and TRUE even though we cannot recreate or fully understand the force.
@jesusiseverything2me Unlike gravity, your christian God manifests itself in no measurable way. Same goes for all the rest of the gods, old and new ones, as well as for ghosts, spirits or unicorns. Until we have physical evidence, god (whichever one you pick) remains a fictionnal character. The existence of such an entity wouldn't even be considered a valid theory, such as the dark matter theory or the strings theory. Theories are supported by facts.
@sylvanha - your argument is so silly. There is SO MUCH evidence of God being exactly whom He is, was and has always claimed to be that it's just ignorant and stupid to not see it. You need to actually READ the bible and use it as the basis for then studying logic, REAL science, history, archaeology, etc After that if you still deny your creator, then I can't help you. When you face your creator at the moment of death, claiming innocence by ignorance won't help you.
If every time you don't lie and steal and everytime you do a good deed it's so you can go to heaven, then each good deed is inherently selfish because your doing it for the sake of your own soul. If you don't believe in heaven, then you can be sure that you are truly honest and moral because you have no alterior motive to being a good person.
@Crentist45 - that is incorrect. We who are IN Christ display these good/moral behaviors because we are ALREADY saved and ALREADY have the promise of Heaven! We do good/moral things because it is our new nature ... we have become that "new creature" with the "new heart and new mind" that Christ gave us when we chose to receive Him. We do good because we WANT to, to glorify our God!
@GreatAuntCayce That's my point. If you DO believe in heaven then you could be making those decisions so that you can end up there not necessarily because you're a good person. If you DONT believe in heaven then there's no uncertainty because you're not worried about passing the After Life entrance exam.
So. To continue these guys logic if I don't everything about everything I should believe in aliens, witches, elfs, fairies, santa claus, zeus, vampires, that you can cure cancer with stones, that we actually live in a matrix, that reptilians rule the world, allah, reincarnation etc. And I'm not agnostic because I DO think it's possible to prove if there is or isn't a god. Just hasn't happened yet althought the knowlegde we have today doesn't point towards the god of the bible.
The more I listen to The Way of the Master, the more I'm beginning to hate the christian version of God. Why can't God be something that represents goodness?
@wikuk - you've completely missed the whole point! God is ALWAYS good, he is perfect and holy and loving and merciful. BUT, He MUST punish sin, and CANNOT allow disgusting, filthy, and unholy sinners into his PERFECT Kingdom! He loves you SO much that He (Jesus) took YOUR punishment for you! Isn't that loving? I'd sure say so!
@jesusiseverything2me We do not care which supreme being has a quality. In fact, The Bible, like most other religions out there is nothing more than a story alluding astrological patterns.
@SlimeTron5000 The Bible is the word of God. The living word of God is Jesus the Christ. God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are one. Trust in astrology leads you to Satan. Satan provokes you to sin. Sin leads to death. Putting your trust in Jesus will deliver you from the clutches of Satan. Satan is powerless against Jesus. Jesus is the King of kings, and Lord of lords. Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess, Jesus is Lord. Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD!
I know god exists because I'm looking at my new anal beads. Now these anal beads didn't just create themselves. In fact, they say "Made in Thailand". Our Belly buttons are proof that we were made by god.
If your newborn dies of cancer because of our omniscient vengeful god, would you deny that cancer exists? You can't see it? Oh wait... You can see it? Who cares, you're missing my point? You can't see the cancer physically killing your completely innocent newborn baby, while simultaneously
letting child molesters, murderers, theives, and bigots roam the Earth while your baby dies. If that happened, would you say Cancer doesn't exist? That's the same as saying God doesn't exist. That god that let your baby die.
Finally. Look at this picture, it's a picture of a spider llama. Now if Darwin was right, how come there are no spider llamas? How come my great grandfather who just died wasn't a monkey.
Watch 2girls1cup. That clip was filmed with a camera. But someone had to build and
sell that camera for drug money, so they can support their sinful habits, while innocent people die. If there was a director who found two whores to digest each others bodily fluids, then surely there is a god who created the Director himself.
god made us all, from the gay people that are an abomination to the creator that made them, to the retarded people that will go to hell because they have no concept of god. Tune in next week, when I show you how an otterpop is an Atheist's worst nightmare
Oh tushee, Kirk but I know there are no penguins in the North Pole and, does that mean I know everything about the North Pole. Or there are no more Tazmanian Tigers does that mean I know everything about Australia.
An absolute statement of an Absolute truth. If I say there are no such things as Unicorns. Are you going to argue that there might be unicorns that have never been found.
Ok I told a lie, that makes me a liar. I stole a pencil from someone's desk, that makes me a thief. I baked a cake, that makes me a baker. I saved a person from drowning, surely I'm a saviour. What a stupid, childish way of arguing that proves absolutely nothing.
Actually, you've got no idea what I was talking about. I was using the saviour thing as an example to show what a pointless method of arguing that is.
Yes I did hear what he was saying, but that doesnt make it any more coherent or relevant to reality. Why the hell do we need a 'saviour' for? Surely we should sort out our own shit, rather than relying on fairy tales?
ok. one day u walk along a pavement. a car lost its control and crashed to u. but b4 everything happens a guy came from nowhere took ur place.
then what would u do?
by what u said, sound like u're just gonna leave him and walk away...
U Hyppcrite! We all need a saviour. We just deny it, those who listens to the words of God will understand but those who denies everything will lose everything.
You speak absolute garbage. I have no idea what you are trying to say, simply because it makes no logical sense. You make me tired and weary and i need to go to work in the morning.
Peace out or whatever, just read a book that isn't 2000 years old. I recommend 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'.
Wow, being called 'thick' by a guy who doesn't know how to spell 'really'. Irony never tasted so sweet.
Go on believing that you're part of the special few if it gives you wood in the morning. Just don't shove that stupid belief in people's faces. Many thanks.
Theism is belief in god, it is blind faith, if it isnt it isnt faith, therefore it cant be investigated, this means it isnt falsifiable, this means it is not a valid theory. I can play word games to FU
Let's stop being nice to people like Ray and Kirk. If they'd actually run the world, we would basically be living in a Christian Saudi Arabia equivalent. Let's shut these people down and ridicule their stupid, backward, dangerous ideas.
Ray really is a piece of shit. His rhetoric is effective only because most atheists are too nice to shut him down when he starts spewing fallacies and starts looking like the snake he is..
Very few atheists make such statements. Most of us keep the possibility open for a god, but don't spend our lives pursuing such since there is no absolute evidence for it except for a collection of ancient scriptures.
How can Christians say that there is no Valhalla or Hades? They really don't have any authority to say such, since they are really on the same level in terms of evidence. But they still do. So the absolute statement thing is really among the Christians.
So we only know 1% of the pie chart. Look at all the unknown things that actually exist in the Universe. Amazing... so we can just insert our unfalsifiable god into that space and say "you can't prove it's not there"... Now image the pie chart swimming in a massive ocean of the possible things that don't exist in the universe. These things are infinite. Now when God is inserted randomly where is he likely to land, in the infinitesimally small chart or in the sea of non-existent possibilities.
I can't believe they put that atheist in there, he was so polite, reasonable and correct that he made Ray just appear like a rude, unreasonable idiot. I wonder if Ray thought he won that argument?
Ray, I know exactly how many grains of sand comprise the islands of Hawaii, the answer is: 3,455,966,943,356,456 and the number of hair on the back of a fully grown male Tibetan Yak: 6,098,243.
How do I know? I just do. Can you prove that I don't know? I'll tell you what, you start counting now and I'll come back in 50 years and see if you've proven me wrong.
Ray, human ignorance is no excuse to posit your imaginary friend. Positions should come from knowledge not from lack there of.
Yes Kirk so the statement "there IS Gold in China" Is an unfalsifiable one. Which, if no evidence is provided is a bad assertion, and one for which an absence of evidence IS evidence of absence.
Of course, if there is gold in China you should easily be able to prove that there is, all you have to find is one piece of evidence. In the case of God, the same applies, if he did exist it would be easy to prove this. So in the case of an unfalsifiable God, absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
No, atheists don't "know it all", atheists are trying to figure out why and how things are the way they are. They're just isn't any evidence to suggest that God exists.
If all you non-christian believers think that this video is a joke and don't believe in God then why are you watching the video...Just keeping living your empty lives and stop hating on us--the Christians!
we dont hate you, we hate your religion ,,,,, sorry!!! no ,,, I ,,, jajajajaa its not like a sindicate of atheist and we have vision and mission xD ,,, I hate your religion and church, because they are bad , and evil .... and scary and death treathing, and civilisation cant go on with them, watch some patcondel mologes, ..
Uhh.. no. That guy's answers were quite intelligent. He was, however, not confrontational and was apparently not familiar with the niceties of Christian doctrine.
If atheists were that commited to not changing their minds, and said "Yes even though I don't know 99 percent of the universes knowledge, i am sure there is no God and there's no way you'd ever be able to prove a God to me" They'd be as bad as christians.
Absolute statements don't require complete knowledge of the universe. For example, I don't need complete knowledge of the universe to prove that there is no such thing as a cubic sphere. Cubes have 8 corners, and spheres have none. It's impossible for a shape to have both of those qualities at the same time, therefore cubic spheres do not exist. God is a cubic sphere.
If you atheists don't believe in a "creator", then I pity you. You don't know what your purpose in life is. U don't even know why u were created for. And if u don't know why u were created for, then what is your reason for living?
There isn't a purpose or plan in life, life is what you make it. You can do great things, you could just be an Average Joe, or you could be a criminal. What you do is up to you. That's what free will is about, after all.
Reason and logic are noticeably absent in these poorly produced videos. Only the uneducated and/or misinformed will buy what these two buffoons are selling.
Cameron talks about absolute statement and absolute truth, yet he's one of the most ignorant individual when it comes to science.
@FartVandelay The Bible is the most reasonable and logical, and unreasonable and unlogical book you will ever read. You need Jesus too. How to change.
1.) Accept Jesus as Lord 2.) Pray - ask God for "revelation knowledge" of His word, then read the bible 3.) Consistently attend a spirit-filled, bible based church where the power of God is welcome 3.) Love the right way (I Corin 13). God will give you peace. You no longer will do the terrible things you have been doing. Terrible things.
The true biblical answer is that God is the Creator not the created. God is eternal.
In order to comprehend this consider the universe. The Bible says clearly that God's creation reflects his divine nature (See Romans Ch. 1). Therefore God MUST have created something which reflects his own eternal nature.
Now consdier the LENGTH of the universe. "HOW FAR DOES IT GO?"
We can't comprehend it. I believe God reflects his eternal nature in the very 'body' or spectrum of the universe itself.
Atheists don't appreciate the influence religion has on the world we live in. How would you feel if politics and laws and wars were the result of people arguing over varying beliefs in unicorns? Would you want your president to say "Unicorns Bless America" every time they appear in public? Would you enjoy being told you deserve to be tortured for eternity for not believing in or worshipping unicorns? Think about it honestly, and you'll understand why atheists need to speak out.
Under the same idea that they start with, any christian must accept that in the 99% on knowledge that they don't have there could be ample truth against gods against.
Yes, the universe had a creator, and since there is no evidence of anything but nature, it must have been a natural one. The Big Bang thorugh M theory is the best going hypothesis with evidence. Not a God and his son that were selected by a commitee of theosophers. Thereis a minute chance there may be a deist God, like that of Spinoza, but I guarantee you, 100% it was not the Judeo-Christian God or any God contained on texts on Earth, all of these myths have been disproven with actual evidence.
Good job Kirk and Ray! Keep spreading the good news! You are doing God's will by sharing his word, what people do or don't do with that knowledge is now up to them as individuals..That is why he gave us free will and we are not his slaves, it is our choice to have a relationship with him. I have only been saved for 5 years and I have seen his incredible work in my life. I Pray that everyone gets to know Jesus and the joy he brings to our lives! Remember you have FREE WILL he didn't make robots.
BeckeyGirard 4 weeks ago
Jehová ha ganado a un sin número de dioses, por eso Él es el verdadero, cada milagro que ha hecho ha comprobado su deidad.
piratobatrava 1 month ago in playlist Más vídeos de zonkas
i can make a car, thefore I AM GOD
Chrisaerozepath 1 month ago
A better second absolute statement woulda been "there is a god" But he cant say that cuz then he would be fucked. For some reason when i look at these two i cant help but imagine that Ray keeps Kirk in a cage at his home and they live out some sort of S&M Master/slave relationship. I think both of them are just in it for the money. They know how to sell a product well and they know their aduiance.
ILikeCaseyAnthony 1 month ago
Then how do you know it's not the flying spegetti monster
thenoaha9999 1 month ago
@thenoaha9999 So, you should believe in "the flying spegetti monster" (but you won do beacouse your mind can't think it, is illogical and you know it) I believe in Jesús.
piratobatrava 1 month ago in playlist Más vídeos de zonkas
"brainery" LMFAO
CriminalBabies 1 month ago
Nope your not free your a slave anyone who sins is a slave to sin and your enjoying the pleasures of it. But remember it's only for a season. Life could end tomorrow and without the righteousness of Christ you'll end up in hell forever.
mamainmancj 2 months ago
I believe in Zeus. Prove there is no Zeus.
megaj1964 3 months ago
@megaj1964, I can't prove there is no Zeus, I can only dismiss it because of a lack of empirical evidence to justify or prove Zeus' existence.
Nashhinton 3 months ago
@megaj1964 yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thenoaha9999 1 month ago
@cplagoons If you wish to challenge me further, I will send you my reasons against God's existence.
silenthitman94 4 months ago
@cplagoons Next, on to Ray's arguments. Firstly, I see my car and Mechanics almost everyday. Thus I know my car was made. I see the world everyday, but no creator. Thus it is reasonable to assume the world was not made by a consciece creator. Again with gravity. We see the effects of gravity everyday. If I jump I will fall, whether i believe it or not. We do not see the effects of God everyday. God only takes effect after death. NOT when we can see him. Convenient eh?
silenthitman94 4 months ago
@cplagoons I beg to differ. If you have 25,000+ reasons, please share a source. I will rattle a few off the top of my head. Firstly, the bible is the only known source to claim that the entire people of israel were held in slavery by egyptions. Thats kinda big. I want more evidence. Secondly, though it seems silly to refute, If the entire world flooded in the time of Noah, the entire world would be covered in saltwater. How did fresh water animals survive?
silenthitman94 4 months ago
@cplagoons It does not disregard any findings from history except for the supernatural. Turning water into wine etc. is comic bookish. Some guy getting crucified because he was viewed as a threat is believable. So when we find ancient site that lines up with your idol it is real but when we find one of the Greeks it is not? This is a double standard. If we used your logic we would have to believe everything that was ever written, as long as we could find New York, Superman is real and can fly.
whaddyta 4 months ago
@cplagoons Achilles fought in Troy. They found the real city of Troy therefore Achilles is a real person with magic powers. Here is a more common one, Superman lives in New York.. You know the rest. The Statue of Zeus at Olympia was rediscovered in 1954 does that make Zeus real. Just because you find a location does not mean that it confirms that magic and gods are real.
whaddyta 4 months ago
@cplagoons With that kind of logic you could prove the Greek gods are real. Finding cities and artifacts does not prove miracles happen or prove gods are real.
whaddyta 4 months ago
...this guy is not much of an atheist.... looks more like one of kirk's acting buddies trying to pretend he's an atheist for the show...lame attempt... but that's how dishonest they are...
compvm33 6 months ago
i see alot of running. if fear. indeed if they do not gather wirth him they scatter. and are deeply afraid to look into the other side adn as could it be right.
flippinburger777 6 months ago
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Atheists do not claim that there is no God. They do not believe in God. Agnostics and atheists are not 2 separate groups. I am an agnostic atheist. I do not believe in a God, but I accept that I do not know for sure that one does not exist.
Cream147player 6 months ago
WE cant SAVE anybody people!!! You make the decisions we just spread the truth wether you believe in it or not... your decsion just like its my decision to believe and love jesus :D
oemmao18 6 months ago in playlist Religion
How can Kirk Cameroon actually be so damn stupid? According to his logic he can't be sure there are no tooth fairies! By 1) claiming that there are no tooth fairies you make an absolute statement but since 2) no one has absolute knowledge you cant make an absolute statement. So because 3) We can't know that there are no tooth fairies all people that dont believe in tooth fairies are stupid. Aaahh! Don't we humans have this beautiful thing called brain that enables us to draw logical conclusions?
EickhorstPokerPro 7 months ago
Watching this makes me wish these people would come after me so I could crush their ridiculous arguments.
silenthitman94 7 months ago
Here's the deal: even if they can convince someone that there's a god that created everything, that doesn't equate to a god that authored the bible and did everything it claims. That's the same kind of conclusion jumping that leads them to thinking that evolution (and science in general, it seems) and god can't co-exist.
multitudeofidols 7 months ago
"Humans have limited knowledge of the universe, therefore God!" yeah, ok Ray.
hec231 7 months ago
These 2 are an insult to intelligent people everywhere!! To watch tis video turn the mute button on! Your brain will thank you!
Allanfries 7 months ago
Well done Kirk and Ray for picking the dumbest "atheists" you can find to represent us all. If you simply switch all your arguments FOR god and substitute NO GOD, all arguments can be justified. Another note, painters and builders are listed in the yellow pages, call them and get a building built. Where is the listing for universe creators? Exactly! my example is as pathetic as yours....
Ryallsy79 7 months ago
Atheists claim no knowledge outside our physical perspective. We are humble enough to say that all things are possible but some things, based on current evidence, are highly unlikely. Christians and other religions are arrogant enough to claim knowledge of what they do not and cannot know based on individual faith. I'm siding with the men in white coats.
Braveanglo 8 months ago
Jesus died for his own sins. Not mine.
jankendorf 8 months ago
Kurt and ray are so slimy. How much money do you two make to be so dishonest.
19josh71 8 months ago
Lev 25 44-46. Your a racist
19josh71 8 months ago
Of course we don't know everything about everything. We know nothing about the outer reaches of the universe, the depths of the oceans and many other things. But we (atheists) don't make up shit or believe in stupid bullshit to fill those gaps in our knowledge. I don't know is a viable answer to a scientest
ZomborContra 8 months ago
The same argument can be used against those religious people who claim that there's a god. In addition, most atheists, at least the ones I know, only claim that there isn't any empirical eveidence to warrant the belief in a god or gods. If "god" is defined in ways that contradicts well established facts about reality, then it's perfectly reasonable to deny the existence of such a god.
pedrom41 8 months ago
most of the people don´t like this video... im not surprised... bible says a lot of people will hate who shares that jesus died on the cross, good news.
marianahi15 8 months ago
Lol agnosticism and atheism actually go hand in hand and are certainly not mutually exclusive.
FHomeBrew 8 months ago
Has a terror toons feel
CupisHomines 8 months ago
one thing i have to say is that there is gold in CHina
davidleny58 9 months ago
Why does god make all of us poo everyday ??? Really, Why ? I mean, If we're so far above and greater than the animals, why do we have to poo ? I'm tired of it. Please god, make it to where you don't force us to poo anymore.
MrBeautifulba1 11 months ago
@MrBeautifulba1 very funny
sruthiize 8 months ago
wow, 3:07 I've never heard of an athiest. Have you?
magichristo 11 months ago
hey guys if you dont agree , you better keep your thoughts to yourself, noone is forcing you to believe. Its so clear and simple, who could be dumber to deny the truth, sadly, the 238 and more dislikes.
sruthiize 1 year ago
@sruthiize A lot of these video's have the ratings disabled specifically for that reason. You know, open forum, freedom of speach and all that. Apparently it's pretty incompatible with religion. If the ratings are disabled I will let people know I don't like them telling me (with a smile) that I'm going to hell. Or that gay people should have less rights etc. The ratings just show that most people don't like this video. Deal with it.
FHomeBrew 8 months ago
@FHomeBrew well why do you always think you are not going to heaven, if you want to know more about Christianity, dont just stick with one video, you have to expand your knowledge about it before denying it. Being gay is immoral according to Christian standards, but that doesn't mean you have to shut those people and talk trash about them all day. Jesus loves all sinners but hates their sins. But at the end of the day it is their choice to change and accept him, Jesus in my life is everything.
sruthiize 8 months ago
@sruthiize I don't think I'm going to heaven or hell, the christians think that about me. I've read enough of the bible and heard enough of the arguments to tell I don't have to believe it. I'm not talking trash about them I think, but we probably do need to do something about people who discriminate based on their beliefs (discrimination against gays for instance). Why do you worship the guy who created the place where most people will be tortured forever?
FHomeBrew 8 months ago
@FHomeBrew my reply is too long so I posted it on your channel :)
sruthiize 8 months ago
@sruthiize Thanks but... I think there's a bit missing. A link for instance. You mention a website but I can't find what you meant...
FHomeBrew 8 months ago
@FHomeBrew lol i dont know why it didnt appear but i posted on your wall again. :)
sruthiize 8 months ago
@sruthiize Try a pm, that should work. I'm not deleting anything from my channel...
FHomeBrew 8 months ago
@FHomeBrew its okay, let it be.
sruthiize 8 months ago
Wait, so you're saying it's not okay to say you don't believe in something which there is NO evidence for, but you close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears when presented with any evidence that goes against your blinkered world view?
MrSmirker 1 year ago
they dont know .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
and based of what we do know there is know proof of god and most of what a person doesnt know has nothing to do with god and if you can see at what we cant see in space their wouldnt be a god and saying that their is this much we dont know is an uneducated guess (and "the maker" is the laws of physics dipshit)
bigboyconour 1 year ago
they dont know .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%
and based of what we do know there is know proof of god and most of what a person doesnt know has nothing to do with god and if you can see at what we cant see in space their wouldnt be a god and saying that their is this much we dont know is an uneducated guess
bigboyconour 1 year ago
By trying to prove the existence of God, you deny His existence. For proof denies faith, and without faith, God is nothing.
So, logically speaking, would you want to prove the existence of God? Short answer - 'Yes', with an 'if...'. Long answer, 'No' with a 'but...'.
ThePhonyAccount 1 year ago 12
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Most theists (such as Christians) tend to be GNOSTIC.
A Gnostic Theist will say, there IS a God, and there is no questioning it.
To be a gnostic theist is completely absurd (just like Kirk and Ray in this video).
However, agnostic theists are another story. They say "well, I believe in a God or Gods, but I'm not entirely sure".
THIS is the way both Atheists and Theists should go about life, you can never be a true gnostic, it is literally impossible.
warlord90210 1 year ago
Agnostic isn't a religion, it's a state of your religious being.
If I'm an Atheist, then I do not believe in god, but this isn't very specific. Therefore, the terms GNOSTIC and AGNOSTIC are used to classify my knowledge of my beliefs.
AGNOSTIC means that you aren't fully knowledgable.
GNOSTIC means you are all knowing.
There are no true gnostics in the world, it is literally impossible.
I would call myself an Agnostic Atheist, I don't believe in God, but it's possible there MAY be a God.
warlord90210 1 year ago
Frogs cannot fly. I know very little about Frogs yet I can say that statement with complete certainty. I don't have to check every frog. Frogs can't fly. Even flying frogs don't fly.
SapphireMist888 1 year ago
It's funny how they say that people can't have all the knowledge, and yet they act like they know everything and are the absolute owners of all reason.
LenaTRG 1 year ago 4
I stopped at, "even the brilliant scientists, Thomas Eddison, said..."
trecool9992 1 year ago 2
"With the measure you use, it will be measured to you" Mark 4:24
Clearly, the interviewer needs to read scripture.
JohnPaulWiggin 1 year ago
he argues well, none of the other interviewed ppl have made me think. when he said that if none of us are good, then that means everyone goes to hell?
bellacinderellakk 1 year ago
@bellacinderellakk No. If you don't accept Jesus' payment for your sin, you pay for your sins in Hell. I accepted Jesus' payment, so I ain't going to Hell. God won't allow innocent blood to go to Hell, so babies and mentally challenged people will be spared from Hell. But all those that have a fully functional brain and full awareness of right and wrong need Jesus' gift of salvation. It's free. You don't need a priest or a church or religion or baptism to accept the gift.Just "Romans 10:9"
icemikeguard 1 year ago
Actually they do a great job of explaining christianity in a great way and is easily applicable to the modern generation.
HaWkBeAtLeSnElSoN 1 year ago
These guys do an absolutely wonderful job of showing the incredible ignorance of Christianity. Keep it up guys, and we'll be free of the evil of religion in no time.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
@bmorgan2814 Christianity is not a religion. Christianity is you accepting salvation from your sins through Jesus the Christ. That the true definition of Christianity. YOU making a choice to be cleansed of your sins by the blood that Jesus shed on the cross. No religion needed. Ignorance is something like believing the words of Darwin and rejecting the power of the God. Ignorance is something like looking like you got it all together on the outside when your life is hell on the inside.
icemikeguard 1 year ago
@icemikeguard I was an evangelical christian and a paid church staff member for twenty years. I do not need a lesson on what Christianity is (especially from someone who doesn't even know the meaning of the word religion). And as a matter of fact, it is supreme ignorance to believe in something for which there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER, like god for example, and totally ignore scientific fact, which proves evidience for anything it postulates.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
@icemikeguard And for the record, my life was a total hell until I stopped chasing a God that wasn't there and took responsibility for my own life. I have been happy and fufilled ever since the day I stopped believing in the Christian fairy-tale. Here's hoping you'll one day come to know the peace I know and have that can only come from believing in NO god.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
@bmorgan2814 Technically there is no such thing as an evangelical Christian. It just Christian - a true believer and follower of Jesus Christ. Just because you worked in the church doesn't mean that the church was in your heart. How can you serve and worship amoung God's people for 20 years and now have a personal crusade to discourge others who want to establish a relationship with God? Was the church you worshipped at for 20 years a complete phoney? Was your pastor a liar? Did they hate?
icemikeguard 1 year ago
@icemikeguard The "Evangelical" reference is merely a distinction. In other words, I was not a "passive" christian like, say, a Methodist or Presbyterian, I was a member of a fundamental Baptist church. And no, they weren't phony, they were sincere in their beliefs as much as you are, and most of them did their very best to live in accordance to Christian doctrine.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
@icemikeguard And as far as I know none of them ever hated anyone (outside of the normal prejudices so often associated with christianity). I still have friends from the church days, although a few of them lament my current world view. I suppose the case could be made that I "never had Jesus in my heart," but if that is the case, then it would be impossible for him to EVER be there. I gave myself to the church as much as is humanly possible, and you will find no one who would dispute this.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
Respond to this video... And I have no personal crusade, except to be honest with anyone I meet. I read the Bible cover to cover, studied every commentary I could get my hands on, prayed and sought as much as I knew how. But the more I studied, the more it became clear that the Bible is not only inaccurate in terms of history and science, it is also not a very good basis for morality.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
@bmorgan2814 I, I, I, I. That's all you seem to focus on. Why don't you reflect on all of the times God saved your life? Why don't you reflect on how many times God blessed you in spite of the bad things you've done? Why don't you reflect on the prayers ANSWERED? You've been hurt and you've hurt quite a few people, but God has always protected you. You should read the bible so the bible can show you who you are (the good, the bad, the ugly). The bible is first a mirror, not clear glass
icemikeguard 1 year ago
@icemikeguard What makes you think I am hurt? And what you think I am focused on myself? You questioned me, and I gave the appropriate response. If you paid any attention to what I said earlier, I HAVE read the bible, cover to cover. And I would be willing to bet, judging from what you type, that I know far more about your bible than you do. And you don't know anything about me. I am not hurt, and I have hurt no one. I have no enemies. I have a happy life. You don't sound very happy.
bmorgan2814 1 year ago
@bmorgan2814 You called Christianity ignorance and implied it was evil. See how it feels when you make generalizations and put people in a category they don't deserve to be in. And the irony of it is, you admitted you are friends with Christians and you know that many of us are nice people. There are bad people, who do bad things in all walks of life. But a Christian's first mandate is to love God, love your neighbor, love yourself.
icemikeguard 1 year ago
This video is infinitely more logical (and bearable) with the vuvuzela button turned on.
GhostsInTheNight 1 year ago 15
5:20 "Lacking in brainery"
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drgodsauce 1 year ago
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Amaru19 1 year ago
come on now people. SO many of you are complaining about an "absolute" statement and making up all kinds of silly things. I KNOW for sure that 1 + 1 =2. I can say that with absolute proof, but I do NOT know everything about every mathematical problem in the world. One CAN know that math is an abosulte science, just like one can know that God is absolute, and not know EVERY detail about all of the innerworkings thereof.
jesusiseverything2me 1 year ago
@jesusiseverything2me
Too bad there is no proof of god anywhere. Show me one single evidence of god and I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Adveloq 1 year ago
@jesusiseverything2me ...and that is why we partake in a dynamic process called Learning.
SlimeTron5000 1 year ago
But saying there is a God is also an absolute statement... FAIL
sylvanha 1 year ago
@sylvanha - TRUE - but one CAN make an absolute statement when one knows for a fact that that statement is absolutely true. It is EASY to know for sure that God is absolutely real. Just like we know that the force of gravity is absolutely REAL and TRUE even though we cannot recreate or fully understand the force.
jesusiseverything2me 1 year ago
@jesusiseverything2me Unlike gravity, your christian God manifests itself in no measurable way. Same goes for all the rest of the gods, old and new ones, as well as for ghosts, spirits or unicorns. Until we have physical evidence, god (whichever one you pick) remains a fictionnal character. The existence of such an entity wouldn't even be considered a valid theory, such as the dark matter theory or the strings theory. Theories are supported by facts.
sylvanha 1 year ago
@sylvanha - your argument is so silly. There is SO MUCH evidence of God being exactly whom He is, was and has always claimed to be that it's just ignorant and stupid to not see it. You need to actually READ the bible and use it as the basis for then studying logic, REAL science, history, archaeology, etc After that if you still deny your creator, then I can't help you. When you face your creator at the moment of death, claiming innocence by ignorance won't help you.
jesusiseverything2me 1 year ago
If every time you don't lie and steal and everytime you do a good deed it's so you can go to heaven, then each good deed is inherently selfish because your doing it for the sake of your own soul. If you don't believe in heaven, then you can be sure that you are truly honest and moral because you have no alterior motive to being a good person.
Crentist45 1 year ago 2
@Crentist45 - that is incorrect. We who are IN Christ display these good/moral behaviors because we are ALREADY saved and ALREADY have the promise of Heaven! We do good/moral things because it is our new nature ... we have become that "new creature" with the "new heart and new mind" that Christ gave us when we chose to receive Him. We do good because we WANT to, to glorify our God!
jesusiseverything2me 1 year ago
@Crentist45 What if you do believe in Heaven and you decide not to lie and steal?
GreatAuntCayce 1 year ago
@GreatAuntCayce That's my point. If you DO believe in heaven then you could be making those decisions so that you can end up there not necessarily because you're a good person. If you DONT believe in heaven then there's no uncertainty because you're not worried about passing the After Life entrance exam.
Crentist45 1 year ago
So. To continue these guys logic if I don't everything about everything I should believe in aliens, witches, elfs, fairies, santa claus, zeus, vampires, that you can cure cancer with stones, that we actually live in a matrix, that reptilians rule the world, allah, reincarnation etc. And I'm not agnostic because I DO think it's possible to prove if there is or isn't a god. Just hasn't happened yet althought the knowlegde we have today doesn't point towards the god of the bible.
MsGrrargh 1 year ago
The more I listen to The Way of the Master, the more I'm beginning to hate the christian version of God. Why can't God be something that represents goodness?
wikuk 1 year ago
@wikuk - you've completely missed the whole point! God is ALWAYS good, he is perfect and holy and loving and merciful. BUT, He MUST punish sin, and CANNOT allow disgusting, filthy, and unholy sinners into his PERFECT Kingdom! He loves you SO much that He (Jesus) took YOUR punishment for you! Isn't that loving? I'd sure say so!
jesusiseverything2me 1 year ago
@wikuk - and BTW, there is no "version" of God. There is only one and He is who He is. Anything else is just a figment of someone's imagination!
jesusiseverything2me 1 year ago
@jesusiseverything2me We do not care which supreme being has a quality. In fact, The Bible, like most other religions out there is nothing more than a story alluding astrological patterns.
SlimeTron5000 1 year ago
@SlimeTron5000 The Bible is the word of God. The living word of God is Jesus the Christ. God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are one. Trust in astrology leads you to Satan. Satan provokes you to sin. Sin leads to death. Putting your trust in Jesus will deliver you from the clutches of Satan. Satan is powerless against Jesus. Jesus is the King of kings, and Lord of lords. Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess, Jesus is Lord. Jesus! Jesus! Jesus! THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD!
icemikeguard 1 year ago
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wikuk 1 year ago
I lost count of the strawmans.
s4stem 1 year ago
I know god exists because I'm looking at my new anal beads. Now these anal beads didn't just create themselves. In fact, they say "Made in Thailand". Our Belly buttons are proof that we were made by god.
If your newborn dies of cancer because of our omniscient vengeful god, would you deny that cancer exists? You can't see it? Oh wait... You can see it? Who cares, you're missing my point? You can't see the cancer physically killing your completely innocent newborn baby, while simultaneously
D4MVP 1 year ago
letting child molesters, murderers, theives, and bigots roam the Earth while your baby dies. If that happened, would you say Cancer doesn't exist? That's the same as saying God doesn't exist. That god that let your baby die.
Finally. Look at this picture, it's a picture of a spider llama. Now if Darwin was right, how come there are no spider llamas? How come my great grandfather who just died wasn't a monkey.
Watch 2girls1cup. That clip was filmed with a camera. But someone had to build and
D4MVP 1 year ago
sell that camera for drug money, so they can support their sinful habits, while innocent people die. If there was a director who found two whores to digest each others bodily fluids, then surely there is a god who created the Director himself.
god made us all, from the gay people that are an abomination to the creator that made them, to the retarded people that will go to hell because they have no concept of god. Tune in next week, when I show you how an otterpop is an Atheist's worst nightmare
D4MVP 1 year ago
Oh tushee, Kirk but I know there are no penguins in the North Pole and, does that mean I know everything about the North Pole. Or there are no more Tazmanian Tigers does that mean I know everything about Australia.
slicingwater 1 year ago
An absolute statement of an Absolute truth. If I say there are no such things as Unicorns. Are you going to argue that there might be unicorns that have never been found.
slicingwater 1 year ago
Ok I told a lie, that makes me a liar. I stole a pencil from someone's desk, that makes me a thief. I baked a cake, that makes me a baker. I saved a person from drowning, surely I'm a saviour. What a stupid, childish way of arguing that proves absolutely nothing.
LostSubsForever 1 year ago
wow, dude. u have absolutely no clue what they were talking about at all!?
Ray already said that we ALL NEED A SAVIOUR bro. did u not hear him or u just dont want to hear him?
lThellRockl 1 year ago
Actually, you've got no idea what I was talking about. I was using the saviour thing as an example to show what a pointless method of arguing that is.
Yes I did hear what he was saying, but that doesnt make it any more coherent or relevant to reality. Why the hell do we need a 'saviour' for? Surely we should sort out our own shit, rather than relying on fairy tales?
LostSubsForever 1 year ago
ok. one day u walk along a pavement. a car lost its control and crashed to u. but b4 everything happens a guy came from nowhere took ur place.
then what would u do?
by what u said, sound like u're just gonna leave him and walk away...
U Hyppcrite! We all need a saviour. We just deny it, those who listens to the words of God will understand but those who denies everything will lose everything.
God bless those who asks, seeks and knocks.
lThellRockl 1 year ago
Sigh, this is so tedious.
You speak absolute garbage. I have no idea what you are trying to say, simply because it makes no logical sense. You make me tired and weary and i need to go to work in the morning.
Peace out or whatever, just read a book that isn't 2000 years old. I recommend 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy'.
LostSubsForever 1 year ago
? same here dude. i cant get any sense out of u at all.
oh well. thats just how thick u rily r.
lThellRockl 1 year ago
Wow, being called 'thick' by a guy who doesn't know how to spell 'really'. Irony never tasted so sweet.
Go on believing that you're part of the special few if it gives you wood in the morning. Just don't shove that stupid belief in people's faces. Many thanks.
LostSubsForever 1 year ago
Theism is belief in god, it is blind faith, if it isnt it isnt faith, therefore it cant be investigated, this means it isnt falsifiable, this means it is not a valid theory. I can play word games to FU
Davnios 1 year ago 2
Staged interview!
Let's stop being nice to people like Ray and Kirk. If they'd actually run the world, we would basically be living in a Christian Saudi Arabia equivalent. Let's shut these people down and ridicule their stupid, backward, dangerous ideas.
ataras1980 2 years ago 2
It's so obviously fake I want to smask something
Davnios 1 year ago
Ray really is a piece of shit. His rhetoric is effective only because most atheists are too nice to shut him down when he starts spewing fallacies and starts looking like the snake he is..
jwissick 2 years ago
Very few atheists make such statements. Most of us keep the possibility open for a god, but don't spend our lives pursuing such since there is no absolute evidence for it except for a collection of ancient scriptures.
How can Christians say that there is no Valhalla or Hades? They really don't have any authority to say such, since they are really on the same level in terms of evidence. But they still do. So the absolute statement thing is really among the Christians.
HimmiJoe 2 years ago
So we only know 1% of the pie chart. Look at all the unknown things that actually exist in the Universe. Amazing... so we can just insert our unfalsifiable god into that space and say "you can't prove it's not there"... Now image the pie chart swimming in a massive ocean of the possible things that don't exist in the universe. These things are infinite. Now when God is inserted randomly where is he likely to land, in the infinitesimally small chart or in the sea of non-existent possibilities.
jamesstephenbrown 2 years ago
I can't believe they put that atheist in there, he was so polite, reasonable and correct that he made Ray just appear like a rude, unreasonable idiot. I wonder if Ray thought he won that argument?
jamesstephenbrown 2 years ago
Ray, I know exactly how many grains of sand comprise the islands of Hawaii, the answer is: 3,455,966,943,356,456 and the number of hair on the back of a fully grown male Tibetan Yak: 6,098,243.
How do I know? I just do. Can you prove that I don't know? I'll tell you what, you start counting now and I'll come back in 50 years and see if you've proven me wrong.
Ray, human ignorance is no excuse to posit your imaginary friend. Positions should come from knowledge not from lack there of.
jamesstephenbrown 2 years ago 2
Yes Kirk so the statement "there IS Gold in China" Is an unfalsifiable one. Which, if no evidence is provided is a bad assertion, and one for which an absence of evidence IS evidence of absence.
Of course, if there is gold in China you should easily be able to prove that there is, all you have to find is one piece of evidence. In the case of God, the same applies, if he did exist it would be easy to prove this. So in the case of an unfalsifiable God, absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
jamesstephenbrown 2 years ago
this interview is staged...this kirk guy and comfort guy are pricks...god would not like this
ladyboylizard 2 years ago
Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort are making a lot of money off this. That is a absolute truth.
liz1234p 2 years ago
No, atheists don't "know it all", atheists are trying to figure out why and how things are the way they are. They're just isn't any evidence to suggest that God exists.
MrXmyselfx 2 years ago
...i meant find someone who is not pretending to be an atheist because they work for you...
compvm33 2 years ago
agnostic is an atheist with no balls-
compvm33 2 years ago
if i say there is no god, then all you have to do is find a god to disprove the statement- is it just me?
compvm33 2 years ago
I think it may be, because you would have to find a god to prove that there is one.
MrXmyselfx 2 years ago
ats swat ahm sayn
compvm33 2 years ago
those mother fuckers... trying to implant theyr frucking religion using fear... that fucking terrorism.
juguetemalo 2 years ago
5:55 - 6:35
Wow i better stop watching right now, this is just incredibly fucked up
merzer131 2 years ago
these guys are retarded and piss me off
merzer131 2 years ago
9:33 way to tell some stranger that his kids are going to hell. This is why religion is dying.
FarBeyondSYL 2 years ago
You Christians need to humble yourselves before the absence of God or burn forever in a pit of fiery salvation.
FarBeyondSYL 2 years ago
That was sooooo set up.
anurre5 2 years ago
If all you non-christian believers think that this video is a joke and don't believe in God then why are you watching the video...Just keeping living your empty lives and stop hating on us--the Christians!
tramaine1981 2 years ago
I think you are a joke. You, not all christians. Just you.
crumbinator 2 years ago
cool...And Jesus loves me--joke and all! *kisses to ya*....
tramaine1981 2 years ago
we dont hate you, we hate your religion ,,,,, sorry!!! no ,,, I ,,, jajajajaa its not like a sindicate of atheist and we have vision and mission xD ,,, I hate your religion and church, because they are bad , and evil .... and scary and death treathing, and civilisation cant go on with them, watch some patcondel mologes, ..
zerstorenx 2 years ago
its funny when he goes on about absolute knowledge, after his escapade with the "athiests nightmare" i.e. a bannana
gaelicscots 2 years ago
Lol at Ray and Kirk, always good for a laugh.
666Decius 2 years ago 2
Pretty sure the "atheist" was reading a script.
theumph 2 years ago
Why the Ignorent person on the face og the earth?o:
Christians here's a question: Could god himself microwave a borrto so hot, that he himself could not tuch it? :P
Craledude 2 years ago
Yes. He'd split himself in two, one half to microwave the burrito insanely hot, and the other half to be unable to eat it.
But Im an agnostic, so I don't think my answer counts.
monkeypickle23 2 years ago
praise your gord@
Zentz29 2 years ago
LOL Cameron and Comfort is clowns..
always entertaining
blackcrossunited666 2 years ago
They picked one of the stupidest atheists to interview. Where did they get this guy, a church picnic?
egocentress 2 years ago
Uhh.. no. That guy's answers were quite intelligent. He was, however, not confrontational and was apparently not familiar with the niceties of Christian doctrine.
jonnniefivemiles 2 years ago
about the "atheist/agnostic" statement...LOL again.
an atheist doesn't BELIEVE in a god. an agnostic isn't sure.
there's a difference between not being able to prove something, and not believing it.
i absoutly admit that i can't prove that god doesn't exist, but i don't believe he/it does.
that makes me an atheist.
if i say i think there might be a god, but i need more evidence, i'd be an agnostic.
simple deffinitions...
nobody knows. you think you do, but so do hindus.
Zentz29 2 years ago
If atheists were that commited to not changing their minds, and said "Yes even though I don't know 99 percent of the universes knowledge, i am sure there is no God and there's no way you'd ever be able to prove a God to me" They'd be as bad as christians.
egocentress 2 years ago
i'm confused about the content of your reply to me.
i guess the first place to start is...do you believe in a god? if so which one?
Zentz29 2 years ago
lmao! this just goes to show how these people think, and the examples that they use.
NO! you don't have to know everything about china. how many tigers are there in china? DOESN"T MATTER if you want to prove that there's gold.
here's one for ya...how many different religions are there in china?
if you want gold...IT DOESN"T MATTER!
if you claim that your god is the "one true god" do you have to have "absolute knowledge" of religion?
if so...you fail!
Zentz29 2 years ago
There might not be any righteous men alive, but there are self-righteous men like Kirk and Ray.
MarowakDidIt 2 years ago
Absolute statements don't require complete knowledge of the universe. For example, I don't need complete knowledge of the universe to prove that there is no such thing as a cubic sphere. Cubes have 8 corners, and spheres have none. It's impossible for a shape to have both of those qualities at the same time, therefore cubic spheres do not exist. God is a cubic sphere.
MarowakDidIt 2 years ago
There is no evidence to suggest anyone ever lived that long, it was hyperbole used to describe wise men.
stevenweir76 2 years ago 3
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kamalgilkesk 2 years ago
"... Every thought of every heart..."
Fool. The heart doesn't have thoughts, the brain does!
MarowakDidIt 2 years ago
These people are proof we evolved from lower life forms.
TheDarkKnight987 2 years ago
If you atheists don't believe in a "creator", then I pity you. You don't know what your purpose in life is. U don't even know why u were created for. And if u don't know why u were created for, then what is your reason for living?
yurama2001 2 years ago
There isn't a purpose or plan in life, life is what you make it. You can do great things, you could just be an Average Joe, or you could be a criminal. What you do is up to you. That's what free will is about, after all.
MarowakDidIt 2 years ago
You can use the omniscient argument in the opposite fashion just as easily.
Absurd, they plucked some poor poltroon off of the street who obviously isn't interested in religion in the least bit, and bother him.. twats.
HannibalFL86 2 years ago
6-54 to 6-57 is great lol
duracellaltoids 2 years ago
Reason and logic are noticeably absent in these poorly produced videos. Only the uneducated and/or misinformed will buy what these two buffoons are selling.
Cameron talks about absolute statement and absolute truth, yet he's one of the most ignorant individual when it comes to science.
Hypocrite much?
FartVandelay 2 years ago 11
@FartVandelay The Bible is the most reasonable and logical, and unreasonable and unlogical book you will ever read. You need Jesus too. How to change.
1.) Accept Jesus as Lord 2.) Pray - ask God for "revelation knowledge" of His word, then read the bible 3.) Consistently attend a spirit-filled, bible based church where the power of God is welcome 3.) Love the right way (I Corin 13). God will give you peace. You no longer will do the terrible things you have been doing. Terrible things.
icemikeguard 1 year ago
If there is a God then who created her?
T0X0PHILUS 2 years ago
"If there is a God then who created her?"
Excellent question!!!
FartVandelay 2 years ago
her...?
kamalgilkesk 2 years ago
HUH?
FartVandelay 2 years ago
The true biblical answer is that God is the Creator not the created. God is eternal.
In order to comprehend this consider the universe. The Bible says clearly that God's creation reflects his divine nature (See Romans Ch. 1). Therefore God MUST have created something which reflects his own eternal nature.
Now consdier the LENGTH of the universe. "HOW FAR DOES IT GO?"
We can't comprehend it. I believe God reflects his eternal nature in the very 'body' or spectrum of the universe itself.
Brightstar27 2 years ago
Atheists don't appreciate the influence religion has on the world we live in. How would you feel if politics and laws and wars were the result of people arguing over varying beliefs in unicorns? Would you want your president to say "Unicorns Bless America" every time they appear in public? Would you enjoy being told you deserve to be tortured for eternity for not believing in or worshipping unicorns? Think about it honestly, and you'll understand why atheists need to speak out.
worldsworstjukebox 2 years ago
that "atheists" is a actor
Th3chozen1 2 years ago 3
3:11 Atheist spelled wrong
MORONS!!!!!
mooglebee 2 years ago
OH NO!!! THE GREAT MOOGLEBEE HAS POINTED OUT THE HORRENDOUS SPELLING ERROR!!! CHRISTIANITY MUST BE INCORRECT!!!
Geez... T.T
Brightstar27 2 years ago
Under the same idea that they start with, any christian must accept that in the 99% on knowledge that they don't have there could be ample truth against gods against.
BigPete18 2 years ago
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Prove to me there is no Pink Unicorn that pisses on Jesus every day and every night. Stupid Morons.
stevenweir76 2 years ago
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kamalgilkesk 2 years ago
Yes, the universe had a creator, and since there is no evidence of anything but nature, it must have been a natural one. The Big Bang thorugh M theory is the best going hypothesis with evidence. Not a God and his son that were selected by a commitee of theosophers. Thereis a minute chance there may be a deist God, like that of Spinoza, but I guarantee you, 100% it was not the Judeo-Christian God or any God contained on texts on Earth, all of these myths have been disproven with actual evidence.
stevenweir76 2 years ago 2
you see the thing is that those fools aren't actually philosophers. They probably never went to college.
And their arguments are so flawed that you should just let the 12 year olds have a debate with them. I think they will lose.
ps3jamesman666 2 years ago
they completely skewed their definition of atheism