Whats with the shedder mindlesssly moving up and down scales! OK a bit better by 2.10 but really! Then the mockney fool turns it into a knees up 'down the local' Poor.
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Os comentários que leio são miseráveis. Escrevo no meu bom português para não ter insultar em inglês alguns dos que opinaram de forma infame quase todos os elementos dos Genesis e seus fieis seguidores. São eles que nos fazem sonhar ao longo de décadas e mais nada interessa.... E eu a julgar que era só por aqui... Obrigado GENESIS!!!!!!!!!!!
I think they are in good form. Perhaps in a lower key. Are any of us the same, we all change and move on. People do age. Phil also has back problems that were flaring up, I am sure during this tour. Enjoy one of the greatest bands of the 70's. This was probably their last tour. God bless them all!!!
@PeterMayer Hendrix never got near approaching his 60th birthday.
The years affect different people in different ways, and sadly .. or not, Phil Collins' voice has changed, so a lot of Genesis tunes had to be performed in dropped tuning. Peter Gabriel has said himself that his voice has altered and he would struggle to perform old Genesis tunes as they once were ( as he did, in parts, at the 1982 reunion show ). But luckily for him, he doesn't have too.
i love genesis, but i think they should have practiced a little more before they did this tour. they sounded pretty decent by the time they got to l.a though!They shoulda recorded that show for dvd.
I agree after gabriel and hackett left, the band moved away from prog in the true sense, but it was uncool at that time anyway, but now hey the world is your oyster, there is a huge revival going on, and not many left to fill those old boots, should be interesting to see it they could pull it off though !!!!
I saw an interview where Banks said Genesis would consider getting together with Gabriel and Hacket for a Lamb Lies Down on Broadway tour. That would be awesome if it ever happened.
The initial idea that led to the "Turn It On Again" tour WAS a full piece reuniion, with messers Gabriel & Hackett on board. And whilst this is great, a reunion of the 5 piece era Genesis would be supreme
Hackett is up for it. It's only Gabriel who is being indecisive about it. I'm def up for seeing that, but if they're going to do it, I still like the idea of having 2 drummers. That's one thing about the "Phil Collins Genesis" that shouldn't change if they are going to perform live. I also would like to see Anthony Phillips as part of that reunion. I'm also would be even more interesting if all 6 of them got together and did some new writing/studio recording.I wonder what that would sound like?
When Hackett left, the last remnants of prog-rock aura left as well. Daryl is a fantastic piece for the band. Hey, I would have LOVED to see them do 'Harold the Barrel','Eleventh Earl of Mar', the entire "Slippermen" piece and "Mad Man Moon" - But they have to appease a;; different groups now. I would have loved to see Stuermer do Hackett's "Horizons" as well!
ed io ero li!!!!! mi vengono i brividi anche se vederli con Peter Gabriel sarebbe stato completo...ma bisogna contentarsi...altro non resta che aspettare la porossima...
the anser is very very simple, about stuermer on guitar, that is not about taste or some comparing with original "sacred" version ... he is stuermer not hackett, why he should play in another way ?
the miracle is to listen to something of early period, considering a record like invisible touch is today considered classic ... (tragically hehe)
I just can't help but comment on this. I have seen this band a few times and once with steve hackett and I don't remember this beautiful guitar solo ever being massacred like this before. I know that he is putting his own stamp on it but christ it's just guitar masterbation. Tragic.
God I hate Daryl Sturmer's playing. He over-compensates for his poor taste by inserting a blister of notes. Compare to Steve just a decade ago on the Tokyo Tapes DVD. Steve embelishes here and there, but still plays it the way he did 35 years ago. Quite a testament to the legendary status of this solo and Steve's confidence in it. I creamed my shorts the first time I listened to Selling England by the Pound. Why can't they put the full band back together? Why, God! Why!!!.
Good effort Daryl, this is the reason I stopped buying the post Master Hackett era Genesis albums, and sorry Phill but at least you should sound like in Seconds out with your drumming, I know that this a free concert, believe me after being a Genesis fan and an admirer for many many years I only yearn and dream to see Steve and Pete and you Tony, Mike and of course you Phill play together, the way it must be played, the perfect calssical Genesis way. Long live Genesis.
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A great band isn't one that never screws up, it's one that can get back on the same page and finish the rest of the song (and in this case flawlessly).
Either Tony rushed or Phil just got on the wrong beat at :14, but they both tried to fix it, and then they got back at :24. It sounds like the rest of the band was with Tony. Chester is not playing at this point.
Where did they get the audio for the DVD, as this does not appear?
Well we can clearly see that Daryl can play scales up and down, but nothing will change the fact that Steve was the master of this melody, his solo didn't have to have all the extra shredding to sound stunning... Steve just knows what is important for a great melody (it's a composer thing...) nevertheless I wouldn't say this solo is butchered (well except Tony's part before LOL) I think Daryl did a great job to make it sound like it did using a Strat...
funny how some people complain about the sound, please bear in mind this clip was probably recorded on a mobile phone, or at best a hand held video camera, you aint gonna get no 5.1 dolby stereo from that, not happy with the sound ? buy the DVD
I still love them. They are still Gods among men. I did notice the screw up at beginning and Daryl's ultra-thin guitar sound. But there are few bands in this world, of any genre, with near the talent and wonderful music. God Bless Them. Think I'll put on Trick Of The Tail and smoke a joint now.
My only issue with Daryl's guitar playing is that he sometimes plays like he's still auditioning for the gig, with all of the fast fretwork and embellishments. He's a great guitarist and bassist, sometimes I wish he didn't try so hard, and just let it happen. I do agree that the keyboards don't sound right at all. The programming was way off.
edsongs thats correct firth of fifth IS from SEBTP and for thatstankanator they need two sets because phil is the drummer on studio and he is lefty so for chester is imposible to use phils drumkit an over the years that has been his trademark on genesis and on his solo career
what were u checking, a handwritten note to yourself in which you had written "Dear Suqonkman94, firth of fifth comes right after cinema show, love from baby"
I see what you mean by too many notes and Shredding. A lot of Whammy Bar. Each note Hackett played was crafted and had feeling. Daryl is a great player but I think maybe he is not that interested in being identical. Remember Chester is also suppose to be Phil when he is playing and he isn't as great as he is. He is his own player so there you go. The band does not expect them to be clones. If they did they would have them look like them as well and Chester does not look like Phil.
fantastic guitar solo on firth of fifth. diferent style and yet gets to the point. he's not hackett,hackett is not steumer, they're both amazing. having two different versions/syles of the guitar solo only enriches the song.
If any1 wants to know the Rome DVD comes out February 2008. I highly suggest that you also get the 2 cd set of "Genesis Live over Europe." You'll love it.
well your off. toronto was played and rehearsed during the first week of september. if your from toronto you should've known that, they were in your city for a week.
As John Wayne would say "listen and listen tight". For all you nay sayers out there do me a favor and don't watch, just go out and throw bread to the ducks instead. This is 2007 so back off these guys. I can't play softball or raquetball any more at 51 because of back issues, so why bag Genesis for going out and playing THEIR music if they still can and want to. I saw them in Sacramento 10/10 and plucked down $450 for two floor seats dead center, fifth row and had a great time.
As someone who actually attended a number of shows on the tour, including this one, let me point two things out: (a) the sound was superb, and (b) the "Firth Of Fifth" screw-up was most definitely a one-off...every other time they played it flawlessly.
not bad just wish phil would warm up quicker in his singing, they need to put more effort into it and stop cutting the best bits out, plus the old fogey is being a bit lazey on the drums but what do you expect hes getting on a bit lol, at least they got back together for a jam
And that's just what it was: a jam. Most of their great songs were stuck together in lazy medleys. They really are a pale shadow of their 70s greatness.
If genesis stayed a prog rock group, they wouldnt have been around as long as they had. Music changed and they changed. They still made good music, and live there isnt a band around that can compete
They were just a band of musicians who "played 12 string guitar related music". Prog? We never used that term in the 70s. I still do not know what it means, do you? They always were changing. Like Led Zeppelin for an example. I just love music. Peace
why do not enjoy the moment, live the present!!!!!! get away from the past, or view the videos with Peter Gabriel , this is GENESIS 2007, they trying to be happy ,be happy and think is Phil Collins , Mike Routerford and Tony Banks playing my favourites songs of genesis, i´m not in a bar , hearing a tribute band I´m Looking A PART OF GENESIS!!!!!! ,and what a part!!!!!!
Genesis went through different periods which I call transitions...Personally after Hacket left Genesis turned into a Business oriented Group. I will stay with the group until 1975....Peter and Steve were great contributors. Now we could see what Peter achieved and Steve is doing what he wants to do...
These guys still fucking rock. I cant believe some of the posts "Phils singing in D instead of E" "Sounds Strained" Yada Yada. Give me a fucking break! These guys arent 24 years old anymore... not too shabby for a bunch of 50 something year olds that havent played together in 15 years. Awesome visually... stage set & design is sick - just what they've always been known for. Cant wait till they hit the states in Sept! Got floor seats for the Hartford CT show.
That's why you shouldn't; just take each work for what it is, period. They had amazing stuff with Gabriel, and they had some with Collins, just different. And no, they did NOT have only crappy albums among the 7 albums or so they did without Gabriel. To think so is stupid snobiness.
They've said this many times in interviews. Chester does a great job, but it can never be good as Collins. I am sure that was Chester's problems. And yes, the solo, but Daryl needs to try new guitar effects. He has been playing with this effect for more than 30 years.
trà gli altri video che ho visto questo è il migliore....grazie!!!peccato che non ho provato le stesse tue sensazioni nel vederli ed ascoltarli dal vivo........comunque grazie!!!ciao!!!
Actually, now that I hear it again, nobody else went off beat. 1 drummer screwed up and other kept playing on (you can hear 2 snares 1 beat apart somewhere in there).
I think that the problem is in the bass, for me, the drums and the keyboard together, but I hear that the bass is a little slow..out of tempo...Any way the show was incredible!!! And I am very lucky because I was there!!
Partenza con pullman da Chieti nonostante alcuni giorni di discussione con la mia consorte...erano 18 anni che attendevo questo momento...rimasi già scottato quando saltò il concerto di Torino del '92...grazie Genesis per avermi dato questa forse ultima chance di vedervi, piango ancora come un bambino: Nessuno come voi! No one like you!
OH!!!! cant wait,Roma looked awsome but the Hollywood Bowl will be the best concert of my life! Thank you Genesis for all the great memories!Peace from Big Al in Big Bear Lake,California!
This small mistake shows that after all they are human too!
I was at the concert as well, and I must say they made a fantastic show! Even most recent songs which normally I dont like, in this show have something spciel (I liked Mama and I can dance which normally I dont like!)
As I said, is nice to see these guys playing together in Rome after so many years.
Dont care if Peter and Steve were not there.
I am sorry for those who have rejected being there...You missed a big occasion!
sono curioso di sapere come faranno con il dvd, lo correggeranno in studio, o magari lasciano l'errore mah ...è molto improbabile, vedremo! comunque anche se hanno "steccato" (anche i + grandi lo fanno soprattutto se le cose sono difficili!) dobbiamo ringraziarli x questo fantastico ritorno.Grazie Tony,grazie Phill, grazie Mike un grazie anche a Daril e a Chester. Grazie anche a Peter e Steve x quello che hanno fatto dal 70 al 75 con loro 3!
grazie x il fantastico video del più bel medley della storia dela musica, peccato l'errore di tony? mah bisognerebbe studiarlo attentamente x me ha "perso" una nota o è andato troppo veloce però si sono riprendersi quasi subito, io li ho visti a berna xchè, sapevo che a roma c sarebbe stato il mondo e..anche se mi sarebbe piaciuto rivederli e esserci in mezzo ai 500.000 non li avrei goduti come ho fatto là, seduto di fronte a loro: MAGNIFICO, IL CONCERTO PIù BELLO DELLA MIA VITA!
When I look through the other gigs this mistake only happend in Rome. Sorry for the fans in Rome. I saw them in Hamburg and they were absolutly brilliant.
it does sound strange,and its unusual for genesis to make a mistake but they are at the end of the tour now and i guess they are tired,saw em at manchester and they were perfect!
I originally heard this song live a few days ago at another stadium, i thought wat the fuck the video must be playing up, then i hear this version..... it happens again, i now realise that phil and tony fucked up. Thats weird for genesis.
VALLISEASONS1 your so young but have great taste.did you see them in rome?or do you live in canada and thats why your off to ottawa? when i saw them in manchester 7.7.7 it was an absalute fantastic show it realy was!iv liked genesis for 30yrs and im only 41!my eldest daughter is 16 and shows no interest in genesis!which is wierd coz im always playing them ha! ha!
selling is a great album,along with foxtrot,trespas.........they are all great arnt they? think my fav would be (sittin here 10mins and cant decide as they are all my favs)!
um is it just me or do they all loose their place at around 10 sec on for a few secs. the instrument are all off. anyways 500000 people is alot and its great to see that genesis is still loved in rome! great show, thanks for posting!
starts around 10 sec and last till 20 or so. im seeing them in ottawa sept 15, i cant wait, im a young fan (18) and ive admired phil since i was 8 or 9! best drummer ever! great guy all around
Cool. Only reason I ask, is because for the Chicago show here in America, I have seats in this EXACT same spot, pretty much. So it'd be cool to see more angles :)
a 14 anni ero con gamba fratturata a letto. Mia madre non so perchè e come, mi porta una cassetta: Foxtrot. Sono 25 anni che vivo con loro. Il 14 si è realizzato un sogno ed è stato meraviglioso. Queste immagini sono stupende Grazie
Grazie per averci regalato questa fantastica registrazione e grazie per esserti sacrificato ed esserti negato: i salti di gioia, i battiti di mani, le piroette, le urla di partecipazione e ... il pianto di gioa! Grazie, davvero emozionante!!!
Che meraviglia...! Ero addirittura più emozionato di 25 anni fa quando li vidi a Tirrenia...i Genesis hanno accompagnato la mia vita sin da bambino.... Il concerto di Sabato è stato MAGNIFICO...! Grazie ai "ragazzi" per aver riproposto la loro grande musica del passato ed in particolare questo medley spaventosamente bello...e grazie per avercelo riproposto integrale (da tramandare ai posteri, con outsync incorporato...!...ma anche i più grandi possono sbagliare.....)
E'stato il concerto che piu' desideravo vivere.A 40 anni suonati io e mio fratello alla fine avevamole lacrime agli occhi x aver assistito a qualcosa che per noi era imperdibile.Da Firenze in auto dalle 5 del mattino x rivederli ancora,loro che hanno accompagnato con la loro musica,la nostra vita.grazie a loro ho conosciuto la musica.grazie ai 500mila presenti x aver cantato con loro.una giornata idelebile della nostra vita.
Anche io c'ero e sono stato felicissimo di esserci stato...Credo sia stato l'ultimo grande concerto che potranno mai più fare nella storia della musica...i gruppi di una volta non ci sono più.---e lo dico io che ho soli 20 anni...Ero un po titubante dei componenti affiancati ai genesis(daryl e thompson) e invece devo essere onesto sono stato soddisfattissimo...Poi Daryl ha un po personalizzato l'assolo di Firth of fifth ma devo essere sincero è stato bravissimo...mi è piaciuto molto...
semplicemente stupendo...io c'ero ma alcune volte mi sembra come se fosse stato un sogno...ho come dei vuoti assurdi...come se non l'avessi mai visto...grazie per il video !!!
It seems like a dream...i was there but i don't remember well all the beautiful performance of the band...thanks a lot for the video !!!
Whats with the shedder mindlesssly moving up and down scales! OK a bit better by 2.10 but really! Then the mockney fool turns it into a knees up 'down the local' Poor.
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Tommygun1028 1 year ago
Totally agree with you arank1rs Steve HAckett was one of the greatest members of the band, he brought some melody and some fineness in their music
mario94parrain 1 year ago
Os comentários que leio são miseráveis. Escrevo no meu bom português para não ter insultar em inglês alguns dos que opinaram de forma infame quase todos os elementos dos Genesis e seus fieis seguidores. São eles que nos fazem sonhar ao longo de décadas e mais nada interessa.... E eu a julgar que era só por aqui... Obrigado GENESIS!!!!!!!!!!!
Manotorras 1 year ago
The best band ever
Dree53 1 year ago
peter gabriel.altro feeling
marinettabella 1 year ago
good video satcine, thank you from Chile. Nosfer
renatomoya 1 year ago
I think they are in good form. Perhaps in a lower key. Are any of us the same, we all change and move on. People do age. Phil also has back problems that were flaring up, I am sure during this tour. Enjoy one of the greatest bands of the 70's. This was probably their last tour. God bless them all!!!
sjnorman2 1 year ago
This is the part where they get out of measure but every other concert was without any flews
PhilCollins93 2 years ago
what a shitty version of this guitar solo, steve hackett would comit suicide if he heard this... :S
angusyoung98 2 years ago
@angusyoung98 It's another interpretation
PhilCollins93 2 years ago
it's still being shitty
angusyoung98 2 years ago
yes, the solo is good ,but if you want to see the real solo look for "steve hacket live in bucharest"
lufc58 2 years ago 3
The guitar solo is great!
LesPaulGoldTop21 2 years ago
i can't believe that there are people complaining about phil's voice and that they played the songs in a lower key, this is genesis at top form.
lesassassins 2 years ago 6
i agree with you... some people just don't allow themselves to enjoy stuff.
kakofatus 2 years ago 6
they did play most of the songs in a lower key thats just the truth but they wrote the songs they can play them how ever they want!
dasoxfan88 2 years ago 4
God, how I *wish* it were Steve Hackett playing that solo there. I wonder if we'll ever see that again :(
zenstain 2 years ago 2
Steve was very underrated with Genesis.
arank1rs 2 years ago 6
@arank1rs Maestro Steve Hackett is the most underrated guitarist of rock!
mirobaldo 5 months ago
who plays guitar here?
fugoy 2 years ago 3
Daryl Stürmer
hullaboinger 2 years ago 4
Mike Rutherford is lead guitarist for Genesis.
noskire1 2 years ago 3
He does play guitar, but in this tour, Daryl Sturmer played the lead guitar. Mike is playing bass on this medly.
Nadroc516 2 years ago
esto es música,esto es genialidad...GENESIS...!!
DRATORARENA 2 years ago
Prog rock is "the" absolute music and Genesis 1969-1973 were its best heralds.
panovideo 2 years ago
Lots of bands tune down 1/2 step or whole step to help the vocals..Metallica,Hendrix,Malmsteen
xtremeshredder 2 years ago 2
A lot don't. Name me an entire set that Hendrix did a whole step down....I'm sorry, but I'd rather see The Musical Box.
PeterMayer 2 years ago
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@PeterMayer Hendrix never got near approaching his 60th birthday.
The years affect different people in different ways, and sadly .. or not, Phil Collins' voice has changed, so a lot of Genesis tunes had to be performed in dropped tuning. Peter Gabriel has said himself that his voice has altered and he would struggle to perform old Genesis tunes as they once were ( as he did, in parts, at the 1982 reunion show ). But luckily for him, he doesn't have too.
CompanyGimp 1 year ago
This tour was amazing (was at the manchester and london dates)
Doesn't sound as good on this recording, but I can tell you, live, it was mindblowing!
EffTeeDoubleU 2 years ago
I can't listen to this. Everything a whole step down....
PeterMayer 2 years ago
It does take some getting used to.
Philmacrakken 2 years ago
io c'ero..i was there!! it was amazing!!! i saw GENESIS!!WOW
giorgio2390 2 years ago
i love genesis, but i think they should have practiced a little more before they did this tour. they sounded pretty decent by the time they got to l.a though!They shoulda recorded that show for dvd.
videokills13 3 years ago
They played a kickass show! The reason for why you think they should practiced some more is because the quality on this video sucks.
crapcramer 2 years ago
Remember there are millions of rock loving teenagers out there who don't have a clue what prog rock is anyway?
sonicx2001 3 years ago
I agree after gabriel and hackett left, the band moved away from prog in the true sense, but it was uncool at that time anyway, but now hey the world is your oyster, there is a huge revival going on, and not many left to fill those old boots, should be interesting to see it they could pull it off though !!!!
sonicx2001 3 years ago
i would like that hackett and gabriel join genesis to revival progressive music
doremi5002 3 years ago
lol XD i woould b affraid t be deceived
borealien 3 years ago
I saw an interview where Banks said Genesis would consider getting together with Gabriel and Hacket for a Lamb Lies Down on Broadway tour. That would be awesome if it ever happened.
argonnj 3 years ago
The initial idea that led to the "Turn It On Again" tour WAS a full piece reuniion, with messers Gabriel & Hackett on board. And whilst this is great, a reunion of the 5 piece era Genesis would be supreme
slavemale2 2 years ago
Hackett is up for it. It's only Gabriel who is being indecisive about it. I'm def up for seeing that, but if they're going to do it, I still like the idea of having 2 drummers. That's one thing about the "Phil Collins Genesis" that shouldn't change if they are going to perform live. I also would like to see Anthony Phillips as part of that reunion. I'm also would be even more interesting if all 6 of them got together and did some new writing/studio recording.I wonder what that would sound like?
funk7000 2 years ago 2
it would be very nice, but you ask for too much my friend....
rafa1969 2 years ago
When Hackett left, the last remnants of prog-rock aura left as well. Daryl is a fantastic piece for the band. Hey, I would have LOVED to see them do 'Harold the Barrel','Eleventh Earl of Mar', the entire "Slippermen" piece and "Mad Man Moon" - But they have to appease a;; different groups now. I would have loved to see Stuermer do Hackett's "Horizons" as well!
danastev924 3 years ago
ed io ero li!!!!! mi vengono i brividi anche se vederli con Peter Gabriel sarebbe stato completo...ma bisogna contentarsi...altro non resta che aspettare la porossima...
esserelibera 3 years ago
the anser is very very simple, about stuermer on guitar, that is not about taste or some comparing with original "sacred" version ... he is stuermer not hackett, why he should play in another way ?
the miracle is to listen to something of early period, considering a record like invisible touch is today considered classic ... (tragically hehe)
XanAxDdu 3 years ago
Damnit LOL i cant understand why pples here critics the guitarist, the solo sounds really great to me
looney1233 3 years ago
I just can't help but comment on this. I have seen this band a few times and once with steve hackett and I don't remember this beautiful guitar solo ever being massacred like this before. I know that he is putting his own stamp on it but christ it's just guitar masterbation. Tragic.
strawhouse65 3 years ago
God I hate Daryl Sturmer's playing. He over-compensates for his poor taste by inserting a blister of notes. Compare to Steve just a decade ago on the Tokyo Tapes DVD. Steve embelishes here and there, but still plays it the way he did 35 years ago. Quite a testament to the legendary status of this solo and Steve's confidence in it. I creamed my shorts the first time I listened to Selling England by the Pound. Why can't they put the full band back together? Why, God! Why!!!.
samtheguitarman1975 3 years ago
Good effort Daryl, this is the reason I stopped buying the post Master Hackett era Genesis albums, and sorry Phill but at least you should sound like in Seconds out with your drumming, I know that this a free concert, believe me after being a Genesis fan and an admirer for many many years I only yearn and dream to see Steve and Pete and you Tony, Mike and of course you Phill play together, the way it must be played, the perfect calssical Genesis way. Long live Genesis.
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rjuyal 3 years ago
A great band isn't one that never screws up, it's one that can get back on the same page and finish the rest of the song (and in this case flawlessly).
Either Tony rushed or Phil just got on the wrong beat at :14, but they both tried to fix it, and then they got back at :24. It sounds like the rest of the band was with Tony. Chester is not playing at this point.
Where did they get the audio for the DVD, as this does not appear?
BaronvonCase 3 years ago
genial como siempre
otoya2006 3 years ago
Well we can clearly see that Daryl can play scales up and down, but nothing will change the fact that Steve was the master of this melody, his solo didn't have to have all the extra shredding to sound stunning... Steve just knows what is important for a great melody (it's a composer thing...) nevertheless I wouldn't say this solo is butchered (well except Tony's part before LOL) I think Daryl did a great job to make it sound like it did using a Strat...
ueffect 3 years ago
I don't think Daryl wants it to sound like Steve's solo, out of respect for Hackett - no one can make it sustain and sing like Hackett, so why try?
bassidol 3 years ago
Senza parole...
real1960 3 years ago
io c'eroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ancarano 3 years ago
It's the way Mike is handling the bass line
fcernig33 3 years ago
whoever that was butchered the solo
juanpcarvin 3 years ago
i know, didn't sound a thing like hackett.
machetemirage71 3 years ago
Them boys were off from each other the first 10 seconds or so. They need Hackett for that solo.
eartopsy 3 years ago
Mike can still play that cut time funk lick
fcernig33 3 years ago
What is a "cut/time funk lick"? I'd hate to think any older Genesis would have anything "funk" about it.
eartopsy 3 years ago
I bought DVD "When in Rome 2007" and I haven't heard the problem in Firth of Fifth. Digital sound power.
soulbluesjazzman 3 years ago
Eh ehù ;-)
satcine 3 years ago
Best video on Youtube. Hi Mr. Satcine.
soulbluesjazzman 3 years ago
@soulbluesjazzman On the DVD the audio part was taken from the Duesseldorf broacast.
mirobaldo 5 months ago
is hacket there...?
jarretaderas 3 years ago
STRUEMER RUINS THE SOLO
beatlesdylanyes 3 years ago
funny how some people complain about the sound, please bear in mind this clip was probably recorded on a mobile phone, or at best a hand held video camera, you aint gonna get no 5.1 dolby stereo from that, not happy with the sound ? buy the DVD
casiolump 3 years ago
Amen brother! And while you people are at it... lay of DS already! ENOUGH IS E-F**KING-NUFF ALREADY!
JFoxman 3 years ago
ero la e non immaginavo tutta quella gente bellissimo come la vittoria della magica 1983
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gaardie 3 years ago
Good piece of music.
Genesis should go back to the melodic sound of the 70s and diminish their drum-based sound
steffenfelix 3 years ago
The keyboard programming in the beginning is definately off, otherwise a great performance...
eelco74 3 years ago
I still love them. They are still Gods among men. I did notice the screw up at beginning and Daryl's ultra-thin guitar sound. But there are few bands in this world, of any genre, with near the talent and wonderful music. God Bless Them. Think I'll put on Trick Of The Tail and smoke a joint now.
Raughwe 3 years ago
I like it genesis..I have the CD LIVE OVER EUROPE..is so so great.....greetings from Lima, Peru!!
amigoperu76 3 years ago
My only issue with Daryl's guitar playing is that he sometimes plays like he's still auditioning for the gig, with all of the fast fretwork and embellishments. He's a great guitarist and bassist, sometimes I wish he didn't try so hard, and just let it happen. I do agree that the keyboards don't sound right at all. The programming was way off.
knouraee 3 years ago
edsongs thats correct firth of fifth IS from SEBTP and for thatstankanator they need two sets because phil is the drummer on studio and he is lefty so for chester is imposible to use phils drumkit an over the years that has been his trademark on genesis and on his solo career
junito52 3 years ago
Why do they need two drum sets?
thastankanator 3 years ago
perché altrimenti chi cazzo suona i tamburi,
quando phil si alza per cantare?
carognedentro 3 years ago
Why do they need two drumkits?
Because there are two drummers!
Chester Thompson and Phil Collins!
australisman 3 years ago
Ja passou da hora deles chamarem o Steve Hacket e o Peter Gabriel para tocarem numa tour e assim fazerem o show do seculo. Eu amo todos eles.
Edsongs1964 3 years ago
The last time I checked firth of fith was not from Selling England by the Pound. I thought it came on Foxtrot
squonkman94 3 years ago
wrong it is on sebtp in fact after cinema show
jacklaw3232 3 years ago
before cinema show actually
theorytest5 3 years ago
"firth" is third ,after "what i like "
before "more fool me"
theilster 3 years ago
"firth" is third ,after "what i like "
before "more fool me"
theilster 3 years ago
you're trippin'
darcsaster 3 years ago
what were u checking, a handwritten note to yourself in which you had written "Dear Suqonkman94, firth of fifth comes right after cinema show, love from baby"
theorytest5 3 years ago
Keep doing the tambourine dance Phil! Maybe you'll lose some weight!
blarefax 4 years ago
At least Phil only needs to lose it from his body, which is possible.
You have to lose it from your brains!
Not possible.You're stuck with it!
australisman 3 years ago
I see what you mean by too many notes and Shredding. A lot of Whammy Bar. Each note Hackett played was crafted and had feeling. Daryl is a great player but I think maybe he is not that interested in being identical. Remember Chester is also suppose to be Phil when he is playing and he isn't as great as he is. He is his own player so there you go. The band does not expect them to be clones. If they did they would have them look like them as well and Chester does not look like Phil.
ceazea 4 years ago
Che notte romana!!
Mitici, splendidi, fantastici, uomini perdinci!!!
E' stato bellissimo rivedervi dopo 24 anni!!!
grey62tex 4 years ago
Daryl I can tolerate, though I prefer Steve. That keyboard sound Tony is using I cannot! What was he thinking?
ProgEars2006 4 years ago
The sound still great - fantastic song and album! I prefer 70's Genesis!
666Blitzkrieg666 4 years ago 2
Daryl : what a great guitarist!!! magnificiant!!!!!!
saga55 4 years ago
If I had not heard him before in Genesis, I would assume that he just had dropped acid and thought he was sitting in with Van Halen.
helmuthb 4 years ago
fantastic guitar solo on firth of fifth. diferent style and yet gets to the point. he's not hackett,hackett is not steumer, they're both amazing. having two different versions/syles of the guitar solo only enriches the song.
josecastroa123 4 years ago
dude the song is incredibly well composed and played, god bless genesis. Just the quality of the recording isnt that good
Compaq224 4 years ago 2
the guitar do too many notes.
traffic34 4 years ago 2
Davvero grandi!(ma che erroraccio in Firth of fifht!)
daddo94thebest 4 years ago
If any1 wants to know the Rome DVD comes out February 2008. I highly suggest that you also get the 2 cd set of "Genesis Live over Europe." You'll love it.
buckeyesrule10 4 years ago
Great guitarist they got, but Firth of Fifth is nothing if not played by Hackett
JohnyVirgil 4 years ago
Will they play Toronto soon?
vostromusic 4 years ago
well your off. toronto was played and rehearsed during the first week of september. if your from toronto you should've known that, they were in your city for a week.
valliseasons1 4 years ago
guys i saw genesis in 1975 in cascais portugal with peter gabriel,amazing...
almost 20 years later i saw them again in lisbon,this time with phil,amazing again...
i hope they come to portugal again in this tour.
talibe801 4 years ago
Genesis Vi amo e sempre vi amerò siete i migliori.. Io c'ero e mi per la prima volta nella mia vita ho sognato come non mai ( ps ho solo 18 anni )
Banks1970 4 years ago
splendidi, sono più di 30 anni che vi amo,
per me sono sempre i migliori anche dopo tanto tempo non c'è stata band che ha preso il suo posto
istria61 4 years ago
Phew!
somethingyettocome 4 years ago
se solo ci fosse stato anche il protagonista di questo gruppo!!! Ovviamente intendo dire Peter Gabriel...
dadogranata1 4 years ago
As John Wayne would say "listen and listen tight". For all you nay sayers out there do me a favor and don't watch, just go out and throw bread to the ducks instead. This is 2007 so back off these guys. I can't play softball or raquetball any more at 51 because of back issues, so why bag Genesis for going out and playing THEIR music if they still can and want to. I saw them in Sacramento 10/10 and plucked down $450 for two floor seats dead center, fifth row and had a great time.
mikelmart 4 years ago
As Yoda said to Luke "when 900 years you reach. Look as good, you will not".
They are all pushing 60 and I think they sound good at their age. I do hate the modern keyboards though.
smadurski 4 years ago
Thanks for a great reply to all those people who think that they will be the same in their 50's as they were in their 20's.
What a shock they are in for!!!:)
Great music will always be great music!
I saw them in 1977 and 1986.
I am still getting over the concerts!!!
australisman 3 years ago
As someone who actually attended a number of shows on the tour, including this one, let me point two things out: (a) the sound was superb, and (b) the "Firth Of Fifth" screw-up was most definitely a one-off...every other time they played it flawlessly.
kylehudson00 4 years ago
not bad just wish phil would warm up quicker in his singing, they need to put more effort into it and stop cutting the best bits out, plus the old fogey is being a bit lazey on the drums but what do you expect hes getting on a bit lol, at least they got back together for a jam
GLICKTON 4 years ago
And that's just what it was: a jam. Most of their great songs were stuck together in lazy medleys. They really are a pale shadow of their 70s greatness.
cleaverp 4 years ago
I thought Phil was retired. I heard he could be deaf if he continued playing
alcantara06 4 years ago
I saw then in Chicago yesterday... the best concert in my life!!!! simply fabulous! I love GENESIS
karejimenez 4 years ago 2
Maestros!
luis734 4 years ago 2
That is certainly the best clip from the European tour that Ive seen yet
john4592 4 years ago
If genesis stayed a prog rock group, they wouldnt have been around as long as they had. Music changed and they changed. They still made good music, and live there isnt a band around that can compete
danapointkid 4 years ago 2
They were just a band of musicians who "played 12 string guitar related music". Prog? We never used that term in the 70s. I still do not know what it means, do you? They always were changing. Like Led Zeppelin for an example. I just love music. Peace
hamwinkie 4 years ago
why do not enjoy the moment, live the present!!!!!! get away from the past, or view the videos with Peter Gabriel , this is GENESIS 2007, they trying to be happy ,be happy and think is Phil Collins , Mike Routerford and Tony Banks playing my favourites songs of genesis, i´m not in a bar , hearing a tribute band I´m Looking A PART OF GENESIS!!!!!! ,and what a part!!!!!!
samo987 4 years ago
Genesis Was Freakin AWesome!
I love all Genesis, With and Without Gabriel/Hackett
During this part of the concert I seriously cried
deathmetalhippy 4 years ago 2
Nooooooooooooooo...I hate this guitar!!!
Give me my Hackett.. with his gibson/fernandes les paul...
A commercial Fifth of fifth, doesn't like well...
Phil good at drums but too much "not Peter" at vocals... Sorry,
These aren't genesis.
vincenzogiannella 4 years ago
Why should we turn back time 30 years. My live experience of Genesis 2007 was very positive although I don't like a single song made after 1980.
markkupaivarinta 4 years ago
Genesis went through different periods which I call transitions...Personally after Hacket left Genesis turned into a Business oriented Group. I will stay with the group until 1975....Peter and Steve were great contributors. Now we could see what Peter achieved and Steve is doing what he wants to do...
josegasu 4 years ago
More like "Selling Prog-Rock By The Ice Cold Sound", if you ask me(but you probably don`t).
helmuthb 4 years ago
These guys still fucking rock. I cant believe some of the posts "Phils singing in D instead of E" "Sounds Strained" Yada Yada. Give me a fucking break! These guys arent 24 years old anymore... not too shabby for a bunch of 50 something year olds that havent played together in 15 years. Awesome visually... stage set & design is sick - just what they've always been known for. Cant wait till they hit the states in Sept! Got floor seats for the Hartford CT show.
rosperro 4 years ago 2
Amen ...
nwyard 4 years ago
can you compare any of phils work to selling england or to foxtrot? i don't think so...
pixiepik 4 years ago
That's why you shouldn't; just take each work for what it is, period. They had amazing stuff with Gabriel, and they had some with Collins, just different. And no, they did NOT have only crappy albums among the 7 albums or so they did without Gabriel. To think so is stupid snobiness.
Fairlight60 4 years ago
love that they are still using the taurus moog pedals
cindyyouask 4 years ago
They've said this many times in interviews. Chester does a great job, but it can never be good as Collins. I am sure that was Chester's problems. And yes, the solo, but Daryl needs to try new guitar effects. He has been playing with this effect for more than 30 years.
HanyMust 4 years ago
trà gli altri video che ho visto questo è il migliore....grazie!!!peccato che non ho provato le stesse tue sensazioni nel vederli ed ascoltarli dal vivo........comunque grazie!!!ciao!!!
tartaruga9966 4 years ago
they're not that good with out peter...
pixiepik 4 years ago
I think phil threw tony...fact is if the drummer loses it....it throws everyone.
Shoregrey 4 years ago
Actually, now that I hear it again, nobody else went off beat. 1 drummer screwed up and other kept playing on (you can hear 2 snares 1 beat apart somewhere in there).
MyNameIsBucket 4 years ago
I think that the problem is in the bass, for me, the drums and the keyboard together, but I hear that the bass is a little slow..out of tempo...Any way the show was incredible!!! And I am very lucky because I was there!!
pmp79 4 years ago
the solo sucks so bad, sounds 80ish
mizmite 4 years ago
Partenza con pullman da Chieti nonostante alcuni giorni di discussione con la mia consorte...erano 18 anni che attendevo questo momento...rimasi già scottato quando saltò il concerto di Torino del '92...grazie Genesis per avermi dato questa forse ultima chance di vedervi, piango ancora come un bambino: Nessuno come voi! No one like you!
srappose 4 years ago
Canon or else? please mr. satcine tell me the brand of your camera. Wonderful machine.
soulbluesjazzman 4 years ago
Sei un grandissimo. Me la sto rivivendo con brividi e tutto. GRAZIE!
ladystardust60 4 years ago
is the DVD going to be from Rome?
spudifornication 4 years ago
It would be wonderful
Soundgargle 4 years ago
OH!!!! cant wait,Roma looked awsome but the Hollywood Bowl will be the best concert of my life! Thank you Genesis for all the great memories!Peace from Big Al in Big Bear Lake,California!
bigalbear24 4 years ago
Mistake 11 seconds in mate.
robbiemoulding 4 years ago
Did anybody know when will be realased the DVD??
peter3569 4 years ago
This small mistake shows that after all they are human too!
I was at the concert as well, and I must say they made a fantastic show! Even most recent songs which normally I dont like, in this show have something spciel (I liked Mama and I can dance which normally I dont like!)
As I said, is nice to see these guys playing together in Rome after so many years.
Dont care if Peter and Steve were not there.
I am sorry for those who have rejected being there...You missed a big occasion!
Ciao
luc4prog 4 years ago
where is the mistake i can't hear it
is there really one?
theeone123 4 years ago
sono curioso di sapere come faranno con il dvd, lo correggeranno in studio, o magari lasciano l'errore mah ...è molto improbabile, vedremo! comunque anche se hanno "steccato" (anche i + grandi lo fanno soprattutto se le cose sono difficili!) dobbiamo ringraziarli x questo fantastico ritorno.Grazie Tony,grazie Phill, grazie Mike un grazie anche a Daril e a Chester. Grazie anche a Peter e Steve x quello che hanno fatto dal 70 al 75 con loro 3!
ernestodoc 4 years ago
grazie x il fantastico video del più bel medley della storia dela musica, peccato l'errore di tony? mah bisognerebbe studiarlo attentamente x me ha "perso" una nota o è andato troppo veloce però si sono riprendersi quasi subito, io li ho visti a berna xchè, sapevo che a roma c sarebbe stato il mondo e..anche se mi sarebbe piaciuto rivederli e esserci in mezzo ai 500.000 non li avrei goduti come ho fatto là, seduto di fronte a loro: MAGNIFICO, IL CONCERTO PIù BELLO DELLA MIA VITA!
ernestodoc 4 years ago
When I look through the other gigs this mistake only happend in Rome. Sorry for the fans in Rome. I saw them in Hamburg and they were absolutly brilliant.
ObiWan314159 4 years ago 2
it does sound strange,and its unusual for genesis to make a mistake but they are at the end of the tour now and i guess they are tired,saw em at manchester and they were perfect!
annejim5 4 years ago
I originally heard this song live a few days ago at another stadium, i thought wat the fuck the video must be playing up, then i hear this version..... it happens again, i now realise that phil and tony fucked up. Thats weird for genesis.
volendos2 4 years ago
Bellissimo.
Commovente.
Strepitoso anche per il momento di indecisione in "Firth Of The Fifth".
Mancavano Peter e Steve ma i tre sopravissuti del piu' grande gruppo rock progressivo di tutti i tempi hanno offerto uno spettacolo indimenticabile.
Una serata stupenda.
Pigione 4 years ago
Tony was rushing ... that was the problem!
nwyard 4 years ago
/watch?v=WFj1z9HPk0Q
wowowow
Boto1981 4 years ago
VALLISEASONS1 your so young but have great taste.did you see them in rome?or do you live in canada and thats why your off to ottawa? when i saw them in manchester 7.7.7 it was an absalute fantastic show it realy was!iv liked genesis for 30yrs and im only 41!my eldest daughter is 16 and shows no interest in genesis!which is wierd coz im always playing them ha! ha!
annejim5 4 years ago
This is the best video that I saw. Thank you very much Mr. satcine. Wonderful medley. Selling is the best album by Genesis
soulbluesjazzman 4 years ago
selling is a great album,along with foxtrot,trespas.........they are all great arnt they? think my fav would be (sittin here 10mins and cant decide as they are all my favs)!
annejim5 4 years ago
che meraviglia... penso che di non avere mai urlato così in vita mia... mi deve ancora tornare la voce!
GWDDUE 4 years ago
um is it just me or do they all loose their place at around 10 sec on for a few secs. the instrument are all off. anyways 500000 people is alot and its great to see that genesis is still loved in rome! great show, thanks for posting!
valliseasons1 4 years ago
heard that phil lost it for a few seconds, but i cant hear where, u? 500.000 impressive, think there was about 90.000 at manchester when i saw them.
annejim5 4 years ago
starts around 10 sec and last till 20 or so. im seeing them in ottawa sept 15, i cant wait, im a young fan (18) and ive admired phil since i was 8 or 9! best drummer ever! great guy all around
valliseasons1 4 years ago
Very cool. Anymore vids? I love the camera work and angle you had here.
AeroZach1029 4 years ago
I've other videos but not for the entire long of the songs. Soon on this channel ;-)
satcine 4 years ago
Cool. Only reason I ask, is because for the Chicago show here in America, I have seats in this EXACT same spot, pretty much. So it'd be cool to see more angles :)
AeroZach1029 4 years ago
a 14 anni ero con gamba fratturata a letto. Mia madre non so perchè e come, mi porta una cassetta: Foxtrot. Sono 25 anni che vivo con loro. Il 14 si è realizzato un sogno ed è stato meraviglioso. Queste immagini sono stupende Grazie
mimmopapp 4 years ago
Grazie per averci regalato questa fantastica registrazione e grazie per esserti sacrificato ed esserti negato: i salti di gioia, i battiti di mani, le piroette, le urla di partecipazione e ... il pianto di gioa! Grazie, davvero emozionante!!!
mille962 4 years ago
Che meraviglia...! Ero addirittura più emozionato di 25 anni fa quando li vidi a Tirrenia...i Genesis hanno accompagnato la mia vita sin da bambino.... Il concerto di Sabato è stato MAGNIFICO...! Grazie ai "ragazzi" per aver riproposto la loro grande musica del passato ed in particolare questo medley spaventosamente bello...e grazie per avercelo riproposto integrale (da tramandare ai posteri, con outsync incorporato...!...ma anche i più grandi possono sbagliare.....)
ziofaber 4 years ago
E'stato il concerto che piu' desideravo vivere.A 40 anni suonati io e mio fratello alla fine avevamole lacrime agli occhi x aver assistito a qualcosa che per noi era imperdibile.Da Firenze in auto dalle 5 del mattino x rivederli ancora,loro che hanno accompagnato con la loro musica,la nostra vita.grazie a loro ho conosciuto la musica.grazie ai 500mila presenti x aver cantato con loro.una giornata idelebile della nostra vita.
ELENETTA 4 years ago
Anche io c'ero e sono stato felicissimo di esserci stato...Credo sia stato l'ultimo grande concerto che potranno mai più fare nella storia della musica...i gruppi di una volta non ci sono più.---e lo dico io che ho soli 20 anni...Ero un po titubante dei componenti affiancati ai genesis(daryl e thompson) e invece devo essere onesto sono stato soddisfattissimo...Poi Daryl ha un po personalizzato l'assolo di Firth of fifth ma devo essere sincero è stato bravissimo...mi è piaciuto molto...
farese1 4 years ago
Chester ha quasi sempre suonato con i Genesis dal vivo anche in quel capolavoro che è Seconds Out. (Uno con l'età di tuo padre).
mille962 4 years ago
semplicemente stupendo...io c'ero ma alcune volte mi sembra come se fosse stato un sogno...ho come dei vuoti assurdi...come se non l'avessi mai visto...grazie per il video !!!
It seems like a dream...i was there but i don't remember well all the beautiful performance of the band...thanks a lot for the video !!!
gix1965 4 years ago
Chi può dire "io c'ero" si può dire fortunato. Io c'ero... ;-)
break9away 4 years ago
What camera did you use? Great quality!! Thanks for sharing.
CaptainSlow87 4 years ago
Hell of a time for a train wreck.
stevedrums 4 years ago