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  • This is... scary.

  • Hillary's negatives are too high to win a general election; Obama can attract independent voters. McCain can attract independent voters to the Republican side, but he has too much internal opposition within his own party. Romney has really pissed people off within his party, plus he is too ideological (albeit he is a phony ideologue) to win the general election. Only Gravel, Ron Paul, and Kucinich (now out of the race) are telling us the truth. But Obama inspires, which is important.

  • Does Obama tell us only the truth we can handle. It seems that do tell more of the truth(Paul/Kucinich) never get above 10%. If you follow old reports of Obama in the Late 90's he "got" Israel but had to dispose of those views to run nationally. We can't handle the truth.

  • Yes, snarkwaupaca -- There is a certain vagueness to Obama that allows people to make of his message whatever they want to hear in it. He inspires people to believe in themselves in the same way that Bobby Kennedy once did, and, in the same way, motivates them to shake off their apathy and to get involved in the political process. Fighting apathy is a good thing in my opinion, but it can also set them up to be disillusioned during the inevitable political horse-trading and compromise.

  • And I don't want to disparage Obama. He is the ONLY canidate I ever gave money to, and will likely give more. He has the best chance of manifesting our dreams for a better country.

  • BAAAA BAAAAA Baaa BaAAA SHEEP

  • You guys are just as biased as the rest of the main stream media. I'm over it

  • What are you talking about? How is TPM biased in this video?

  • Hillary claims "experience" in Bill's White House. Yet she claims he will not play a big role in hers. I can't believe she has so many people (you) sold on her after she sold us to China by voting for the war. It's the WAR stupid.

    And Why do people not recognize that Obama has more experience as an ELECTED official? And he's a better person. And he's beating her in general election polls. And with him, the future of Dems is assured. It shouldn't even be this close.

  • Experience is one thing, but the question is, was it good or bad experience. I see Hillary as having failed in two key issues: health care reform and Iraq. She couldn't do the former and had a blatant misjudgement in the latter. And it doesn't seem that she has smartened up. It's a personality problem.

  • as Obama said, it's important to be RIGHT on day one.

    and if I hear her say ""day one" one more time..... grrrr.

    (like Giulliani & 9/11). A funny poll I saw today is that she does better with high school degrees (they said Wal Mart shoppers) & Obama does better with college educated people. in other words smart people.

  • What if Clinton and Obama ran together? Then you get both! I wonder who Hillary and Obama are thinking about for running mates?

  • Does Hillary add more votes to the race than she takes away? That is a job for the pollsters and Veracifier, Or real media if we had it.

  • Not gonna happen.

  • No joke here, but Romney would be a real good running mate for Obama. He's got the hands on experience as a CEO and as a governor to balance the budget, get health care going, etc. Obama is the inspirational and visionary leader who could fix foreign relations and the country. They'd be a good, complementary team and it would be a good example of bridging the partisan divide. Of course whether it's politically possible is another question.

  • As for Hillary, I just hope she doesn't get involved in the next government at all. She is authoritarian, evil, destructive. I see a very bad karma with her in the White House.

  • And it would give some crazy racist from Alabama another reason to shoot Obama and ensure a republican president and Supreme Court. Probably the only good reason to add Hill to the ticket for him is so that those same guys prefer Obama to Hill and will put away the high powered rifle. Do you think we cannot find a managerial Democrat Governor who is not pro-torture and pro-war? Start with Mark Warner in Virginia.

  • 1. As I said, Hillary would in *my* opinion stall progress with her personality 2. the assassination argument cannot really play a role in the decision, that's the job of the Secret Service to worry about that, 3. Romney is not the only choice, I just pointed out, that he has a very good record as a CEO and as governor, 4. the fact, that he is Republican adds to his appeal in my opinion, in terms of overcoming partisan thinking.

  • 5. I don't think Romney is strictly pro torture, but positions such as this can be bridged, same as his war stance. An Obama presidency would certainly entail a no torture policy (how progressive) and a pullout from Iraq. At least Romney doesn't proclaim he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. He talks about security and dealing with terrorism.

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