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  • @lease2coach Glad you thought so.  Thanks.

  • just a quick note, love the vids.... by the way F Y I agape is always used wrong, it is greek and literaly means the love of or for a god. this is not the love of any thing else. it is a love in the same way a battered wife loves her abusing husband.

  • I've already answered the Mt-Lk "contradiction" on one of your "Biblical Contradictions" vids, and shown that there is none, as Jesus' family returned to Jerusalem YEARLY for Passover. As for the crucifixion, you need to supply better references here, namely the verses in the Synoptics which contradict with that in John. God bless.

  • @ChristusVlCTOR I do that in another video. And, no, you didn't really solve the problems plaguing the infancy narratives. But I've responded to your comment there.

  • @ProfMTH I feel that the Infancy narrative is reasonably resolved, Luke notes that Jesus' family was at Jerusalem when He was, 1, when He was 2, when He was 3, and 4, and 5, all the way till He was ATLEAST 12. This puts Him close to the danger.

  • @ChristusVlCTOR "I feel that the Infancy narrative is reasonably resolved...."

    Well, we can agree to disagree.

  • @ProfMTH Not sure you will respond to this I can not send links through here but I am going to send you a message with a link in it. This goes to another scholar discussing "misquoting Jesus". If you would like to read it I think it is one of the better answers to your questions.

  • Excellent! Great videos. I was wondering if you would include in your videos--if you haven't yet--a response to the relatively new concept that some Christians are leaning towards that frees them from any connection to anything really. They are now saying, "The bible is man-written, through God's inspirations, and therefore has flaws, so what really matters is one's 'personal relationship' with God." These Christians are believers in their internal connection with God who bestows good unto them.

  • @kmcd7 Well, I've addressed similar claims from moderate, liberal, and progressive Christians in various videos--see, e.g., /watch?v=iErLsmU_y4U Are you specifically pointing to what one hears from the so-called "Emergent Church" now?

  • Love U! Great points here! I'm using ur vid in a debate I'm having with a Xtian. ;)

  • @julzabro Hope you find it useful. Thanks. :-)

  • A better comparison would have been scripture with Homer's Illiad, likely written around the same time, both by mythical figures.

    It is utterly frustrating when somebody says, 'you only think that because you don't want to believe in a God!' Have they ever listened to a deconversion story? I would never say to them, you only believe the Bible because you are emotionally dependent upon Jesus (which is probably true)! I've seen people break down and cry, saying 'I NEED JESUS!' in argument.

  • The events Luke has described in the previous verses took place forty days after Jesus' birth. Luke subsequently skips a great deal of history and takes up the narration when Jesus was twelve.

    Matthew describes the period between the purification of Mary and the return of Joseph and Mary to Nazareth in more detail and from him we learn that they returned to Bethlehem after the purification of Mary and stayed there until they had to flee to Egypt.

  • After Herod's dead they went back to Nazareth, completing the journey they started seven years earlier.

    John uses the Roman hour counting while Mark follows the Jewish tradition

    The third hour given here by Mark is our nine o'clock in the morning. Note that Mark gives a few more hours, the sixth hour (verse 33) and the ninth hour (verse 34), and the even (verse 42) (which is the twelfth hour).

  • So Mark neatly divides the days into the four customary parts using Jewish reckoning. John uses the Roman reckoning (John 19:14). His six o'clock in the morning is our six o'clock.

  • @FarAwayTheBest All four gospels use Roman time.

  • @ProfMTH

    What makes you so sure all gospels use roman time?

    There's no indication of this in the text but that doesn't mean this isn't what happened, if a contradiction can be solved in any way then it's not a contradiction

  • @FarAwayTheBest "What makes you so sure all gospels use roman time?"

    They were all written in the Roman world for audiences living in the Roman world. Moreover, it was the Romans who divided the night into watches, which the gospels refer to--see, e.g., Matthew 14:25, Mark 6:48, Luke 12:38. This is not a controversial matter at all.

  • @FarAwayTheBest

    "if a contradiction can be solved in any way then it's not a contradiction"

    True, but if the only way to solve it is with something stupid or illogical, then it's either a guarantee that at least one of the conflicting statements is false or that something stupid or illogical is required to explain it.

  • @FarAwayTheBest "Matthew describes the period between the purification of Mary and the return of Joseph and Mary to Nazareth in more detail and from him we learn that they returned to Bethlehem after the purification of Mary and stayed there until they had to flee to Egypt."

    There's no indication of this in the text. The author of Matthew has Mary and Joseph taking up residence in Nazareth for the first time *after* they returned from Egypt and only because they feared being further south.

  • @ProfMTH Allah is Loving (Al-Habeeb,Al-Wadud)but also Hating,he's Peace(Al-Salam)and Agressive.He's Both.Allah is not all-loving ,nor does he have to be.i mean Allah ordered Genocide,Enslavement and other things ,well he's The King,So he decides what he wants to do.He Can't Steal as everything is his possession,can't murder as he gives life and takes it,i hate apologism,just be honest,The Prophetic morality does not have to fit in your 21st century way of thnking.it's Good PERIOD.

  • @sepasgozaram Basically, what you've asserte here is that your god is good because he's good and that whatever he does is OK because 'everything is his"--translation "might makes right." That is neither valid nor persuasive.

  • @ProfMTH Nope,im Saying Allah does whatever he wants,even if its Evil in our eyes,its not,because he is the one who scales good and evil,and even if it were evil,if allah wanted to do evil,then that´s perfectly fine.and i as his slave won´t Question that.im sick and Tired of Beleivers making apolegetic excuses for allah and the israelite prophets.he decides whats oke not Us.this is what i mean.

    Allah didn´t Tell me to think about why he ordered something,he just tells me to do it and it´s Oke.

  • @sepasgozaram ",im Saying Allah does whatever he wants,even if its Evil in our eyes"

    I know what you're saying. And it's neither valid nor persuasive.

    "evil,if allah wanted to do evil,then that´s perfectly fine"

    At least you're honest about the necessary implications of your view.

  • The God of Judo-Christianity is the REAL devil. Satan, a.k.a., Pan is the spirit of Life and the personification of the male principle, Yang---and that's all. God is the Virgin Mother of the universe and exists for the sake of humanity, not the other way around. YAY, ProfMTH, slayer of stupidity.

  • @ChurchOfKali66619 You make a lot of claims, but you have 0 evidence to back them up. Quite the contrary, there is evidence stacked up against your claims.

  • @LukeShetler If you're really gullible enough to believe that there is ANY verifiable physical evidence for Jesus Christ, Ressurected Redeemer i.e., you think that the forgery about "Jesus the Messiah" in Josephus is real or believe in the pre-millenial existence of "Nazareth" or---oh, wait: Christian. Never mind.

    It's not NICE to pick on the handicapped. My bad.

  • Christians would be well advised to let go of the "Bible is the perfect word of God" idea because it's like shooting fish in a barrel proving them wrong. This hilarious video from nonstampcollector should remove any doubt:

    /watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&playnext_­from=TL&videos=VBi3UevDCag&fea­ture=sub

  • Your video is immediately awesome because of the "boos" in the beginning. =]

  • @Yoshiling ;-)  Thanks.

  • Error free? Ya think so? The Bible says that humans are made of dirt. And that snakes and donkeys talk. And that insects have 4 legs. And that bats are birds. And that the earth is flat. And that the sun revolves around the earth. And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman. If the the parts we can verify are false, how can we rationally rely upon the parts that are not verifiable?
  • 4:37 - LOL! I've never seen anyone use G.W. Bush for his sake of argument like that! I take my hat of for your rhetoric skills!

  • @VicTheVicar

    ;-) Thanks a lot.

  • don't even waste your time with a debate cos not all the time you are correct. these wise have already made up there minds to live a life of faith and truth. keep making absurd videos!

  • with some commentaries

  • What?

  • sorry prof, I just realized that all that I typed here didn't show up, i can't remember what I wrote. lol stupid me.

  • lol  No worries.

  • he is saying you are wrong prof!

  • don't even waste your time with a debate cos not all the time you are correct. these wise have already made up there minds to live a life of faith and truth. keep making absurd videos!

  • how can u become prof, if small things you can't understand!? ha!

  • don't even waste your time with a debate cos not all the time you are correct. these wise have already made up there minds to live a life of faith and truth. keep making absurd videos!

  • TheDarkchchl8, you have been posting the same comments all over this channel. Consider yourself banned for spamming. Have a nice life, jerk.

  • good vdo..........jeremiah also wrote that scribes have changed the scriptures.

  • I've never come across that passage (or at least don't remember it). Do you have the chapter and verse, Monumonu? If so, please share it. Thanks a lot.

  • sure i will give it to u............i dont have it readily right now but ill try to find it right now if not ill give u very soon.

  • Excellent. I appreciate it.

  • prof.......its jeremiah chapter 8 verse 8 thank u.....ur vdos r very informative n u talk logical.

  • Here's the funny thing. I just cracked open my New American Standard Version ot have a look at the passage and saw that at some point I'd underlined it. Not only did I underline it, but I also put a star next to it. I totally forgot about it.  lol Thanks for reminding me. And thanks for the nice words. I'm glad you like the videos. Please comment any time. :-)

  • thank u very much prof. ..........like u quoted bart ehrman for the story of the prostitute there are other things which r not supposed to b in bible today like john 3;16 and john 1;5;7 and chunks and chunks in luke.coz they r not to b found in the "most ancient manuscripts"......

  • Great job and I just finished, Misquoting Jesus. Great book and Keep up the good work.

  • Thanks very much.

  • I'm a woman FOR polygamy. :-) I don't understand why some people are against it.

  • I believe you have the right to make any choice you want as long as it is truley what you want.

    The goverment shouldn't impose it's will on individual rights that aren't harming anyone

  • I'm for polygamy, but my fiance is against it, so I guess he won't be taking any other wives. :P So. That's that.

  • He sounds like quite a catch in any case, Gbjew. You don't want to be sharing him around. ;-)

  • haha, I guess. Though I think that's a somewhat selfish attitude...imo. but he's great, I adore him. :-D

  • Ain't nothin' selfish about wantin' your man for yourself. ;-)

  • heh, if you say so professor.

  • Of course Jesus could have been crucified twice. He could have been crucified the day of the meal, died, resurect, and be crucified again the next day.

  • I really hope you're joking.

  • the bible is bullshit

  • I'm getting better at this, because I immediately got the fact that Rev Hanlon's definition of "authentic" is the real problem.

    Of course, the bible is "authentic" in the sense that it's an accurate-enough representation of an ancient text.

    Whether the stories within them are true or just fanciful tales is the REAL issue.

    Who cares if the book was copied with 100% accuracy? The stories within the book are myths, legends, fiction, wishful thinking, etc.

  • "Who cares if the book was copied with 100% accuracy? The stories within the book are myths, legends, fiction, wishful thinking, etc."

    Yes, this is the heart of the matter.

    Beautifully elucidated!

  • The bible is bullshit..case closed

  • who is rev jim hansen? I searched you tube but I didn't find anything?

  • He was here on YouTube when I made this video over a year ago, but he may not be around any longer.

  • ProfMTH. You are excellent, likable, seemingly logical, but I must finally agree with some others who have commented about you, that you seem far more an Ex-Creationist than a true atheist. Your dismissals of the Bible are biased and too often fall flat against the more critical apologists. Maybe your problem is being too intellectual--can't see the forrest for the trees, etc. ?? I've resolved every single one of your "contradiction" issues so far. ?? Lots of smoke..but little fire PMTH. ??

  • "I've resolved every single one of your "contradiction" issues so far"

    Hmm, I'd like to see some proof of that...

  • lol, rureel's account is closed.

  • "lol, rureel's account is closed."

    Perhaps YouTube has finally adopted a rule against being "all hat and no cattle." ;-)

  • "all hat and no cattle."

    Lol, where do you get these. Have you got a book of unusual jibes? If not you should write one.

  • ;-)

  • On "God is JEALOUS": Again, you don't know how to interpret the Bible correctly. LOVE is not jealous is a reference to the object of love. God is JEALOUS in relation to idol worshippers who steal his glory. He later kills them, including their children. Does God kill the ones he LOVES? No. Does God kill the ones he hates? Yes. Does God HATE anyone? Yes. He hates liars and the wicked whom he exterminates. NO CONTRADICTION, well no "intellectual" contradiction...(smile). Thanks.

  • @RUREELYDATZMART

    Saying "love is not jealous" means "the one who loves does not get jealous of the one loved."

    Now, tell me, if someone saw someone they proposed love to cheating on them with others who "steal their glory," and then killed the one they proposed love to, "including their children," would you say they were jealous?

    You are trying to say that God is Love but at the same time that he does not love all of his people.

  • @RUREELYDATZMART

    Let's use another example. Suppose a father (biological, adopted the kid from Egypt, whatever) said to a child, "I, and I alone, am your parent. Don't call anyone else your parent except me." Then, the child found a woman who had something to offer and called her "mother." Then, the father killed his child. Would you say that the father embodied love and was not jealous?

  • Well one of the problems with many christians is they have books that have excuses for everything.

    Take the two different genologies for jesus being a descendant of david, I asked my mom about this, and Jesus having two different fathers. She looked it up in one of her answer books,a nd the claim was that one is his divine claim, and the other is his inheirent claim to the throne of david. Not sure what that means....though.

  • 5 stars

  • Haha, why?

  • It's deceptive to boast that the Bible was written over 1500 years and without contradiction.

    There are many scriptures referenced in the Bible that are either lost or omitted (Book of Jasher, Book of Enoch, Acts of Solomon, etc.). There are dozens of gospels, as well. So of course, when the OT and NT canons were being compiled, certain books were excised- those that did not agree with the rest, and therefore considered "not-inspired."

  • The reasoning is circular- if a text was inspired, it would have to agree with the rest of scripture, because scripture is inspired. If it didn't agree, it wasn't inspired, because it didn't agree with scripture.

    It's no wonder that the Bible is "without contradiction' (in the minds of some, at least). Books that didn't fit in were omitted.

  • Essentially, to boast about the miracle of the Bible's cohesiveness despite its long history is to say, "Isn't it amazing that the books we decided were true all agree with each other!"

    It's like taking a poll and then disqualifying all the participants who had the "wrong opinion," then pretending that Bush's approval rating is 100%.

    It's like expelling all but the best students from a school and then bragging about the school's high academic achievement.

  • Id also like to add to shawdowtitus' comment that I do believe the homophobic aspect of the bible is the making of prejudice authors. For the evidence of this we need only look at our biological make-up. Without being crude, if homesexual intercourse was not intended, why do men have a G spot in their anus. Also, women have one in the clitoris which makes it possible. This was the way God made us.

  • The reverand is only one man with "all of his faults and all of his frailty" he is asserting his personal belief on what the bible is. The bible, overall, promotes kindly behaviour and a selfless lifestyle. It's message has oscillated through time. Irregardless of the minor details, it was perhaps God's will for the Bible to be know, with all it's human-made flaws encompassed. Without it, there are those who would not be compelled to treat their neighbour in the godly way they do today.

  • TIMELINE TUTOR FOR LAST WEEK: 33CE

    Eats passover on sabbath of 1st day of unfermented cakes, Nisan 14/15; official date changes at midnight.

    Arrested that night. Sanhedrin at daybreak. Before pilate "de early"=before "early" watch=noon. Sent to Herod that afternoon (Sat). Herod keeps Jesus until Wed, 19th. Trial at noon. Jesus impaled 9pm that night. Darkness at noon on 20th 3 hours, dies 3pm. In tomb 3 nights:Thu, Fri, Sat. Rises. Ascends after 40 days. Pentecost 3 days. NO CONTRADICTIONS.

  • When did Jesus die? John 19:14 is specific that the trial at noon was the day before "preparation for PASSOVER." There are TWO sabbaths of "passover" and two preparation days before each. Nisan 14th and Nisan 20th prior to the 15th and 21st. Since passover is eaten after Nisan 14th preparation, John 19:14 is a reference to the afternoon "before"(de) preparation of the 20th. Thus Jesus died on (sans "de") preparation, Nisan 20. COMPLETE HARMONY. See timeline outline.

  • Great issues ProfMTH! Quick rebuttals/FYO:

    John 19:14 uses a syntax of "de"(but) to indicate "before" with preparation. Thus John 19:14 should read: "It was BEFORE preparation for passover." Fortunately you are a professor so can quickly do the text comparisons for the use of "preparation" at the time Jesus was placed in the tomb which do not use "de." John 19:14 is exceptional. Thus this is a reference to Wednesday, Nisan 19 and harmonizes the gospels. No contradiction.

  • Why doesn't religious folks consider these faults in the bible? It's as if they just nit-pick what sounds good and go with that, ignoring the errors; I think the deepest literalists of the holy bible are those like the asshole Phelps family, who go around picketing "god hates fags" at soldier's funerals. (sadly, the bible does say god views gay persons as abominations)...so is the bible the word of god, or just prejudice authors?

  • Well, Shadowtitus, whatever the Bible is, I don't believe it's the word of any god.

  • Excellent video ... interestingly there is one church that claims that the New Testament is not without flaw.

  • Great video!

    But I do believe in God. I believe there is one divine book left without flaws in its original Arabic form. Yeah, you guessed it- the Quran.

  • WOGI5M, a reason for the lack of criticism on the Koran may be that it was only written by ONE person, sort of like the book of Mormon, and also [afaik] there has not been an enlightenment period in that world, so scholarship on the history of this book was not healthy.

  • It wasn't written a person or man, so the criticism is baseless.

  • "It wasn't written a person or man, so the criticism is baseless."

    Well, that's very much a matter of your faith, W0GI5M, not a matter of fact, correct?

  • SORRY:

    It wasn't written by man, so the criticism is baseless.

    And I guess it is my personal opinion, which may also be a fact. I guess only time will tell unless you believe that once you die it truly is the end of your life and therefore your life has been pointless.

  • "...unless you believe that once you die it truly is the end of your life and therefore your life has been pointless."

    Well, I *do* believe that when one dies it is the end of one's life. That does *not* mean that one's life has been pointless; not at all. And, of course, none of this has anything to do with evidence for the claim that your holy book was written by anyone other than a human being.

  • Please don't compare the Quran to the book of Mormon, the two are worlds apart.

  • LOL, sorry mate. As I'm outside your group of Quranists, to me they look mighty similar, but I know I am terribly wrong.

  • the name of that book is not bible. nowhere in the bible it is called bible. if God is its author then why He did not name that book?

  • It's not A book, but a collection of books.

  • Right on, man.

  • Thanks.

  • I am dealing with time. The history of babe Ex 2:6 Lk 1:41 Ps 8:2 Mt 11:25 The prophecy of babe Ex2:6 Heb 5:13 Is 3:4 1 pet 2:2 history of hell deut32:22 Mt 5:22 Prophecy of hell Hab 2:5 Rev 20:14

  • The history of laws Gen 26:5 Heb 8:10 The procecy of laws Eze 44:24 Heb 10:16 The history of sacrifices Gen 46:1 Mk 12:33 The prophecy of sacrifices Amos 5:25 1Pet 2:5

  • I know that people wether they be english or Anglo saxon,Israelites,Ethiopians,et­c by experience are not authentic. They lie,steal,murder,etc. So is the 1611 English version of the bible authentic. It all depends on whether his god is true or authentic,etc.

  • Are the Israelites and Greeks of the present Authentic? Do they speak the truth or tell lies or do bad stuff etc. Now you have to find out if jehovah whom the Israelites call there God authentic or true. What about Zeus and the other Greek Gods are they authentic or true. what kind of personality do they have were they good just or evil and unjust.

  • Does love and jealousy have diffrent meanings or definitions. The history of love Gen 27:4 Mt 5:43 The Prophecy of love Zec 8:19 Rev 3:19 The History of Jealous Ex 20:5 2Cor 11:2 The prophecy of jealous Zec 8:2 2cor 11:2. Compare these verses also compare versions. I use the king james

  • Stella, I'm sure the little children and babies who were slaughtered on God's order in 1 Samuel 15 learnt a lot about love from the God that claims he created them.

  • Wow i love this video.

    And i love that you put the definition of authentic.

    nice touch =]

    and i agree with Krazzylad when they said you were "exposing the bible for what it is"

    KUDOS!

  • Thanks very much, ShuShirlee. :-)

  • Great video, Its great to see someone out there exposing the bible for what it is. I grew up very religious but once i opend my eyes and started using my brain ive come to the same conclusion as you.

  • Thanks very much, Krazzylad. I appreciate your taking the time to comment.

  • You are awesome!

  • Wow. Well, thank you very much.

  • excellent video yet again.

  • Thanks very much, good sir.  :-)

  • hi this was well done and well argued. I dont believe in Biblical inerancy. I do however believe that the texts of the bible are very special, and that at least some of it is inspired. And I believe God uses scripture to nspire and challange us. Iam a liberal christian ! John

  • Hey, John. Thanks for your comment and your nice words. Your position on the Bible is approximately the same as mine was for a good bit of my life as a theist, although when I was younger I had a more conservative view of biblical inspiration.

  • I just watched your video response and plan to respond soon.

    Your video was well made and I can tell that you are very knowledgeable. The one thing that I don't like about posting videos (and it is even worse in text comments) is that we can make such bold claims without setting forth any of our sources. I will try to do this so our conversation can remain relevant.

  • I look forward to your response. Thanks a lot.

  • Again I applaud you, ProfMTH. I greatly enjoy the clarity in your videos. *high five* Keep up the great work.

  • Thanks very much, TruthBlazer. I appreciate the feedback very much.

  • You're pretty good at this, who are you?. Where you a priest before or something?

    Could you please make a video regarding the old testament laws or human sacrifices in the bible?, these might be more interesting and are more challenging

  • I'm quite interested in the subjects I've covered in my videos. The only subjects I do videos about are ones that interest me. I *have* talked about the laws in the Hebrew scriptures.

  • in which videos?

  • The ones about homosexuality and a couple of others.

  • Do you also have a video of wether babies go to hell or not?, if you don't have then could you make one?

  • No, I don't have a video on that topic. It doesn't strike me as a topic I'd want to spend time making a video on.  But I'll keep the suggestion in mind.

  • Pious fraud was a common practice with the early church fathers, mixed with the schisms and Constantine's dictates, Eusebius as the less than honorable historian, leave one to wonder if a person claiming authenticity knows anything about the historicity of the bible beginnings at all. Arguing that it is flawless after knowing this would be frivolous.

  • The Reverend deleted my video response from his page. :: shrug ::

  • Of course he did. There might be a few people in possession of some small intelligence watching his video, and if they didn't see for themselves that what he was saying was untrue, a look at your video would surely have sent them over the edge and into heresy. ::GASP!::

    Once again, great video!

  • Thanks, Largo.

  • la verdad te liberá!

  • Tis twue.  ;-)

  • Very interesting. I'm so glad I subscribed to this channel. There's a freshness about your videos that I haven't seen in a long time on youtube, and I think your presentation is top notch.

  • Well, thank you very much, my friend. Most appreciated.

  • I have read "misquoting jesus". The protestants have put so much of their faith tied up into the Bible. The catholic theologians warned them centuries ago this was a mistake. The Catholic's faith is not based on an inerrant bible and in fact they freely admit that the bible DOES contain errors. The "rock" of the catholic's faith is the unbroken apostolic succession from the current Pope all the way back to Jesus through Peter. Great Video! I always look forward to your videos with relish.

  • It's an interesting distinction between Catholics and Protestants on this point, Kaspar. While it holds true for the most part, as a former Catholic I can tell you that some Catholics have been wooed towards the literalist, inerrantist approach to the Bible. In any case, thank you very much for your very nice words.

  • It's interesting to hear that you are a former Catholic. I'm always interested in hearing how and why the "deconverted" eventually rejected the religion they were brought up with; it might even make a good video, if you're interested in doing something more personal. By the way, I'm amused to see you used a portion of my message to you in this video :)

  • I take it you mean the reference to agape. Yes, after your message and a few others I received had mentioned this, it seemed important to emphasize that agape is the word used both in 1 John and 1 Corinthians. Thanks for helping me to clarify that. Also, sure, I'll consider doing a video discussing my "deconversion." I suspect I'll have to change some names to protect the innocent, but that shouldn't be too hard. ;-)

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