I'm so disgusted by some of these comments. "Oh it was a parasite" "Oh its not a human" "Oh its gross." This was a child that could blink, suckle, sleep etc. People are treating both Islam and Manar like a freak show. Do I believe the parents did the right thing? Sadly yes but that's because if they didn't go through with the surgery they would have lost both babies. And one person made an interesting comment. They left Islam bare and didnt bother to make her a shirt
tell me please, did islam have a brain? or only manar? because i'm confused if they cut the scond twin that had he feelings or not? i'm not a medician just asking
In my opinion, they shouldn't have tried to remove the other half, he/she had the same right to live as the complete half. And to what end? Both dying? That was murder in my opinion.
@Tchon Ill informed and uneducated statement. Have you read the top comment? Clearly states that the "other half" is under complete control of Manar. It was piggybacking off her Manars own organs. It was, in every way, a parasite that needed to be culled.
im sorry, this may be an inappropriate question but how on earth did the mother give birth to her? i dont think it would be possible for vaginal birth... sorry just curious maybe a ceesecction? i feel so badly for Manar :*( life can be so cruel and unfair its so horrible. *cries*
What I think is really scary is how she had another head that would almost develop into her 'twin sister'. Its really sad that they had to remove it. For me, it felt like they were killing her supposed 'twin sister'. Really sad.
there's obviously no god...get over it...this is just a genetic malformation, neither of them are supposed to have lived for long...that's how nature is
@PRchica101 Islaam didn't have a heart to live. She was surviving on the heart and lungs of Manar. She was getting nutrition from Manar. She was exchanging gases through Manar's lungs. And she was having blood supplied from Manar's heart.
I want say something too .... Congratulations to the Mayor Doctor and his team they were amazing... R.I.P. little girl ... we know you soffer a lots... God bless you.
I wonder why God does this to people. If we wants to create people he should make healthy people, or atleast let them live longer. This should have been me, not the poor baby's. She is soo cute! I love her and always will. I just pray to god to not let anyone go through this. She couldn't even start talking. She was so young
@TheTacoLadyMusic I'm not trying to start any sort of religious argument, but do you ever think it's not God that does this? That maybe this is the result of the sin in our lives? Just a point to think on.
2 beatiful people and dear why not? In my opinion matter who it hurts the heat could have caused a stronger blood circulation and lack harm If the food does not go down come out in top If a caif would not have commercial value because Cowardly assassination
Islaam had no chance of life, what do you expect doctors to do, build a bunch of organs for a baby which would of killed manar anyways? Sheesh people, doctors are not God, they cant work miracles all the time
@TheMimiWeeny docters dnt do miracles ut they have to try to save thier patient cuz thats wat they do thats thier job and they have to keep tryin until the patient goes to heaven with god
you idiots need to understand that just because the head is moving and looks like it is alive and well... it isn't!!! it is Manar who is controlling the head!! it is apart of him. iit is an extreme abnormality but still a parasite none the less. get over the face and the "oh their killing an innocent baby" the parasite was Manar and is a piece that has been removed. Some people have two mouths and can control them both.
@THURO4EVER You are wrong....the "parasite" had higher brain function....emotions and response. Manar only perfused the other head ...it did not control it
@THURO4EVER Do you understand anatomy at all? She is considered a parasite, but she has a brain also. It was taking nutrients and oxygen from Manar. That being said, what was done had to be done. I'm just glad they were too young to comprehend the matter.
I cant believe the comments on how everyone felt sorry for the twin. It was a parasite!!! It's like taking out a cancerous tumor and naming it. Wake up!!! The twin sucked the life out of Manar. There were no feelings no soul.
@Tidfall1 Which one of your children do you want to kill to save the other....oh let me guess, you'll kill the girl to save the boy. You are a sick person. Let nature take it's course. You don't know what that means, do you. You're all about saving the boy. Is that it? OR the one who will support your dead ass when you are old. I guess it doesn't matter because Karma got the parents---they both died.
They tried to save the life of one of the children, you idiot. Only an ignorant, uneducated loser such as yourself calls these doctors 'murders'. Go get a life.
OK, this may be real, but I am officially disturbed to the core by seeing this. Is the (feel bad writing this) second/extra head really alive or is it 2 people in one body?
thats fucking freaky! imagine giving birth to that and being like OMFG WTF IS THAT?!?!?! but then for the actual baby to die as well...............thats so sad! i cant even imagine how the parents must have felt =(
there was a story like this called the two headed boy of bengal...the head would respond to stimuli independently of the boys actualy head....the facial features changed, and when the boy was asleep, the other head would sometimes be awake with the eyes darting around the room.
A number of you have responded from what might be called a pragmatic, or "common sense" point of view. The "ethics" of the situation are not straight forward. From an "ethical" point of view, the decision was not simple. It was because of the "ethics" of the situation that the doctors referred to Islaam only as "the head' or "the parasite". If you think the choice was simple and obvious, then you don't comprehend the "ethics" of the situation and what it meant to the doctors.
puunig, randompanda89, this is not simply a matter of whether I (personally) would have attempted to save the child with a full set of organs. The ethical questions are highly complex and you are missing them.
....Continued.... The doctors have sworn an oath to protect life. If they acknowledge that Islaam lives, them they cannot destroy her. So they cannot even begin to treat her as a sensient being who can laugh, cry and feel fear. So the doctors do not at any time acknowledge Islaam as a "person", or speak of her by name. It is a strategy used to avoid ethical conflict.
Cont. 2.... The doctors spoke of these two children as a baby (ie ONE baby) with a parasitic head, or ONE baby with two heads. But despite this decision, the ethical conflict remains clear. Islaam was plainly alive and showing brain activity, until they killed her.
KiIlling this person raises question not only in the medical profession, but also of religion. In the faith of the mother, this was a child made this way by God. The doctors had to find a way around this stumbling-block.
Cont. 3.... I have an ethical interest in these separations. A doctor's comment after one separation in which both children died was "Even when the children die, the operation can't be regarded as a failure, because we always learn from it." In that case they were two otherwise healthy and delightful little girls that the family were encouraged (by the doctors) to have separated.
This is why it offends me that the doctors fail to acknowledge Islaam as a baby. It is unethical and dishonest.
But then the reason they separated them was because both were going to die for sure if they kept them together. With separating them, there was a chance of Manar living.
Yes, you are right, of course. But to actually make the cut that separated the children and killed Islaam meant taking a totally pragmatic approach, as in "Oh well, the parasite is going to die anyway." It was euthenasia in which the individual had not choice whatsoever. In fact neither individual had a choice. There are obvious reasons for what the doctors did. But it alarms me greatly that the doctors were so successful in denying that this was a living human brain/person that they destroyed.
It wasn't a difficult ethical question at all. It was either allow the twin to slowly "poison" Manar and thus herself both to death, or remove the twin and allow Manar to live. One dies or both die. In this situation, the obvious decision was to remove Islaam and let Manar keep living.
This video, beginning with its title, and its very first words, offends me greatly. This is NOT Manar Maged and her parasite head. This is Manar and Islaam Maged, both of who could smile and cry, and one of whom experienced the sheer terror of knowing that she was about to be removed, like a wart or a birthmark, so that her sister could be that thing that our society values so much, "normal".
what MandyJMaddison said was that this video is disgusting because it refers to Islaam as a parisite. and that they killed her because society wanted a "normal" child. They couldnt accept her for who she was, they couldnt accept Islaam as a part of her. "normal", in MandyJMaddison's veiw was sarcasm, not an acceptance of the terrible murder of Islaam.
Yes, they tried. They let Manar and Islaam live on for 11 months together before it was clear that Manar (and thus Islaam) would die. She had already had, what? 8 heart failures before the operation? They could save one life, or none. Islaam had no chance of survival from the moment she as born; she had no lungs, no heart, no stomach, no arms or legs, only a brain.
I know it's sad she had to die but seriously, you people act as if there was another choice that could have saved them both.
Would you rather attempt to save one child with a full set of organs and who actually had a chance to live a normal life or allow both to die without doing anything? The parasitic twin (and yes, I'm going to call it that - call me coldhearted, your words do not affect me in the slightest) was showing signs of gangrene due to a lack of proper blood supply. That's not a human, it's a highly-sophisticated tumor, if nothing else. And from a human perspective, it's not a life worth living.
Had they left both as is, they both would have died. Manar died a year or so later, unfortunately, but Manar at least had a better chance of survival by being separated. They call the other one a parasitic twin, because that twin was poisoning Manar to death, putting extra stress on Manar's organs, etc.
la madre de ellos es una hija de mil puta viste nada mas a el bebe y a el pedazo de bebe lo deja desnudose caga de frio el bebito el existe tmbn me da lastima ellos ivan a ser gemelos pero no se terminaron de formar...si yo tuviera eso de hijo aunq tengo 10 años y me falta pero si yo cuandoo sea grande tengo ese bebe con el pedazo de otro bebe los querria a los dos
has anyone ever seen the movie basket case when the siamese twins are like this except its sticking out the normal ones side and once they remove it they get their revenge for seperating them
There have only been 3 cases like this. All died early (for different reasons)so they weren't able to record much of the other twin's development. Islam did not show much reaction to people, but did cry and sleep on her own. Anyway, the mother would have lost both either way sadly. I saw in one picture they even dressed Islam. The mother said it hurt her to see the deceased baby after the surgery. They did not just disregard her. The mother had a hard time even going through with the surgery.
they would have surely died if they didnt atleast try to remove the parasite..
and it is a parasite. it couldnt live by itself, it was feeding off something else.
thats the definition of a parasite.
theres not even a question contemplating what you would do. ensure that both twins would die, or remove the parasite in hopes one would live. hmmm tough choice.
My friend has this same view of the fetus. When it comes to abortion debates, he sticks to the fact that until the fetus is no longer a parasite, abortion is okay.
it was the right thing to do, but please don't call her a parasite. She was a little girl, her situation was very sad, she didn't deserve to be in that situation. Neither did manar. She has a name, and it's not parasite, it's islam
Islam and Minar most likely would have looked like their twin sister. The three were to have been identical triplets if Islam had separated from Minar and developed normally in utero.
i remember this and i couldn't believe it the first time i saw it, either. that "head" was actually her twin sister...and the doctors and the family chose to believe that little islam was just a parasitic growth that needed to be removed. i can't imagine what i would do in this situation, so i can't judge them, but that little girl was a human baby, and she was sacrificed for her sister's sake. there's no getting around that. it's beyond sad.
@iheartjonasbros101 It's sad that both babies have now passed, but I definitely cried the most when little Islaam was gone. I didn't like when they referred to Islaam as just a head. Islaam cried, smiled, was awake independently of Manar, so I believe it had a soul and definitely its own personality, so too a consciousness. That's just my belief. I understand that one had to be sacrificed for the other to live, but still, very sad.
holy shit! so i guess that all of the head's systems run through both their heads so that the head can recieve all the nessasary nitrients. But still like how the fuck does it live, like i feel very srry and everything, it's just that its so interesting.
I saw this show...It was the second case in ALL of history, the other one was before J-C and it just died because of a snake bite and not of the other baby attached to it....but Manar had to get her twin detached because it was to hard on her heart and stuff
and that second baby should've had a shirt on she or he could breath and blink and all which means she or he could obviously think too and feel cold and pain.
If you'd actually lsitened to the video, the second head was poisoning the other one. She would have died anyway. The doctors were trying to save one at least.
It's very sad , because even though Islam didn't have a full body , if she had a brain then she was conscious hence , should have been treated like another human being .
I see her uncovered , they didn't even bother to make a little shirt for her to keep her warm , they just have her bare skin exposed , to the environment . Did they give her a proper burial ? Muslim burial ?
I saw some pictures where Manar wear a normal shirt. I don't understand this, Islaam was the big obstacle. I want to know how could Islaam blink, open "her" mouth or breathing because that body moved a little bit.
I can't read about the infection because everywhere I see the same, that a "severe infection", but want to know it, what kind of infection? What was Islaam's other problems? But hope I can read about this, soon. Yeah, I think she had a proper burial.
WoW, You love Islaam? Do you think Islaam had another personality? I'm sorry for Manar about the infection. She was quite different after the separation. I saw she was sadder than before with Islaam. It's so sad... Thanks for the comment! ;)
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willismicah 3 weeks ago
I saw this on TV when I was younger. Scared the shit outta me. Kill it with copious amounts of fire please...
What? It's already dead?
THANK HUMANITY!
warlordgorgutz1 3 weeks ago
WTF????
Drewnoish 3 weeks ago
That is the best that could happen to this baby! RIP
Stertje1979 1 month ago
I'm so disgusted by some of these comments. "Oh it was a parasite" "Oh its not a human" "Oh its gross." This was a child that could blink, suckle, sleep etc. People are treating both Islam and Manar like a freak show. Do I believe the parents did the right thing? Sadly yes but that's because if they didn't go through with the surgery they would have lost both babies. And one person made an interesting comment. They left Islam bare and didnt bother to make her a shirt
RisingStarFalls 1 month ago
its okay I didn't want to sleep tonight anyway
RaptorRoll 1 month ago
tell me please, did islam have a brain? or only manar? because i'm confused if they cut the scond twin that had he feelings or not? i'm not a medician just asking
lordaVadera 1 month ago
I'm just wondering, how the heart of the "main" baby can supply to an "extra body".
chetes15 2 months ago
In my opinion, they shouldn't have tried to remove the other half, he/she had the same right to live as the complete half. And to what end? Both dying? That was murder in my opinion.
Tchon 3 months ago
@Tchon Ill informed and uneducated statement. Have you read the top comment? Clearly states that the "other half" is under complete control of Manar. It was piggybacking off her Manars own organs. It was, in every way, a parasite that needed to be culled.
AlexPlaysGames 2 months ago
BURN IT WITH FIRE. OMFG. GETOUT THE HEAVY ARTILLERY.
Horiz0n7 4 months ago
@Horiz0n7 You are a MAJOR asshole, I hope you burn in hell.
TheHappytyler 1 day ago
which died :|
NyaanKun 5 months ago
im sorry, this may be an inappropriate question but how on earth did the mother give birth to her? i dont think it would be possible for vaginal birth... sorry just curious maybe a ceesecction? i feel so badly for Manar :*( life can be so cruel and unfair its so horrible. *cries*
amber9921 5 months ago
did the extra head have a brain
lokalllize 6 months ago
that's interesting, how their brains worked together. or the second head hadn't working brain or they had one brain for two?
really, if they grew up together for some years, it'll be really interesting
AsenniyElf 6 months ago
What I think is really scary is how she had another head that would almost develop into her 'twin sister'. Its really sad that they had to remove it. For me, it felt like they were killing her supposed 'twin sister'. Really sad.
Blueknightex 7 months ago
there's obviously no god...get over it...this is just a genetic malformation, neither of them are supposed to have lived for long...that's how nature is
citizenlizard 7 months ago
its sad that the baby died;
123nypd 7 months ago
Omg did he live because I cried and cried
danobeth 7 months ago
No heart and no lungs, how is that thing moving is it just nerves or something?
PRchica101 8 months ago 3
@PRchica101 Islaam didn't have a heart to live. She was surviving on the heart and lungs of Manar. She was getting nutrition from Manar. She was exchanging gases through Manar's lungs. And she was having blood supplied from Manar's heart.
SzChristie 7 months ago
@PRchica101 that thing had a human brain, is just that she was draining all the recourses from her sister, she was a parasite, like me
porkyminch01 5 months ago
@PRchica101 don't fucking call her a thing! that's fucked up.
brandeezy108 1 month ago
aww poor baby :(
ChrissAshProductions 8 months ago
Hit play, ad press"6" and "7" back and forth... "Kickin' You Slowly" lol
DamianEatsNails 8 months ago
1:03 doctors are like shit what the fuck am i supposed to do
rucula2 8 months ago
Let's play some foooootbaallllll!!!!! hahaha you know what i'm getting at.
h0wn0wbr0wnc0w95 10 months ago
Manaar was so beautiful. Too bad she had such a problem.
FUCKTHEREST92 10 months ago
the last second was really creepy :S
joker3029 10 months ago
Errr no baby of here kind ever survive? Well, good luck =/=
PQH1612 11 months ago
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SEE! I told you there's no such thing as god!
JonDeth 1 year ago
she didnt die she is alive with a disability!!
pearl1978wagner 1 year ago
@pearl1978wagner
she survived the surgery and had a disability afterwards, but she died shortly before her second birthday due to brain infection.
olabeach09 1 year ago
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@pearl1978wagner
she survived the surgery and had a disability afterwards, but she died shortly before her second birthday due to brain infection
olabeach09 1 year ago
wow, that is really bizarre
Marecitoo 1 year ago
I want say something too .... Congratulations to the Mayor Doctor and his team they were amazing... R.I.P. little girl ... we know you soffer a lots... God bless you.
rollindeperu 1 year ago
@rollindeperu And god bless the other head, since it was alive.
PinkyMagenta 1 year ago
I wonder why God does this to people. If we wants to create people he should make healthy people, or atleast let them live longer. This should have been me, not the poor baby's. She is soo cute! I love her and always will. I just pray to god to not let anyone go through this. She couldn't even start talking. She was so young
TheTacoLadyMusic 1 year ago
@TheTacoLadyMusic I'm not trying to start any sort of religious argument, but do you ever think it's not God that does this? That maybe this is the result of the sin in our lives? Just a point to think on.
diesoz 1 year ago
Manar..heavens wonderful angel! Rest n peace!
Hans021220 1 year ago
2 beatiful people and dear why not? In my opinion matter who it hurts the heat could have caused a stronger blood circulation and lack harm If the food does not go down come out in top If a caif would not have commercial value because Cowardly assassination
irene100001 1 year ago
honestly with all the children in the world it really doesnt make a difference. how about we worry about the children with no parents at all.
kerflop 1 year ago
Islaam had no chance of life, what do you expect doctors to do, build a bunch of organs for a baby which would of killed manar anyways? Sheesh people, doctors are not God, they cant work miracles all the time
TheMimiWeeny 1 year ago 38
@TheMimiWeeny She passed away due to a brain infection caused by
hydrocephalus. She would be 6 years old now.
SzChristie 1 year ago
@TheMimiWeeny neither can `god`
MrRadiohead1997 1 year ago
@TheMimiWeeny docters dnt do miracles ut they have to try to save thier patient cuz thats wat they do thats thier job and they have to keep tryin until the patient goes to heaven with god
529745VANESSA 7 months ago
@TheMimiWeeny Not god ? Then why did god make her like this in the first place? There is no god ..
MrDevilstreaker 2 weeks ago
@adidasman1234 fucking troll!!
cleric022684 1 year ago
@adidasman1234
funny ?
acidulatedCookie 1 year ago
And where is god? There is no god. So much pain in this world. So much sadness. An the people still believe in god.
dany348 1 year ago
you idiots need to understand that just because the head is moving and looks like it is alive and well... it isn't!!! it is Manar who is controlling the head!! it is apart of him. iit is an extreme abnormality but still a parasite none the less. get over the face and the "oh their killing an innocent baby" the parasite was Manar and is a piece that has been removed. Some people have two mouths and can control them both.
THURO4EVER 1 year ago 7
@THURO4EVER You are wrong....the "parasite" had higher brain function....emotions and response. Manar only perfused the other head ...it did not control it
corcaighabu88 1 year ago
@THURO4EVER it's a parasite but i think it had it's own brain, so it wasn't being controlled by the other one.
alejandro1192 1 month ago
@THURO4EVER Do you understand anatomy at all? She is considered a parasite, but she has a brain also. It was taking nutrients and oxygen from Manar. That being said, what was done had to be done. I'm just glad they were too young to comprehend the matter.
xnwn 2 weeks ago
thats not fair to her twin, i mean manar wanted to love a normal life but islam did too.
pepper12343 1 year ago
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tomprman 1 year ago
IN SPIRITUAL THINGS, SATAN IS THE PRINCE OF THIS EARTH, HE HAVE ALTER GENETICS. THE WORLD IS DAMNED, SO, THIS IS NOT A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE ANYMORE.
tomprman 1 year ago
@tomprman I don't see where else to live.
TaskForceAlliance 1 year ago
@tomprman I think your genetics are the only ones altered. Well yours and others who think like you. Tee hee. Go take your meds.
rondie54 1 year ago
I cant believe the comments on how everyone felt sorry for the twin. It was a parasite!!! It's like taking out a cancerous tumor and naming it. Wake up!!! The twin sucked the life out of Manar. There were no feelings no soul.
unchboy 1 year ago
holy shit.. they said.. the second body atached had no heart, no organs for transforming food into nutrients..
and they were feeding the second "manar"
T1nn3r 1 year ago
bless little Islaam xxxxx
with todays technology she should have lived... xxx
wishcard9 1 year ago
That is a separate child!!! They are murders!!!
maggiebridget09 1 year ago
IF you dont separate they both die, so kill one to save one. You tell me and dont throw around words before you know what your talking about.
Tidfall1 1 year ago
@Tidfall1 Which one of your children do you want to kill to save the other....oh let me guess, you'll kill the girl to save the boy. You are a sick person. Let nature take it's course. You don't know what that means, do you. You're all about saving the boy. Is that it? OR the one who will support your dead ass when you are old. I guess it doesn't matter because Karma got the parents---they both died.
maggiebridget09 1 year ago
@maggiebridget09
They tried to save the life of one of the children, you idiot. Only an ignorant, uneducated loser such as yourself calls these doctors 'murders'. Go get a life.
Zackerybob 1 year ago
OK, this may be real, but I am officially disturbed to the core by seeing this. Is the (feel bad writing this) second/extra head really alive or is it 2 people in one body?
MaybeYesNo90 1 year ago
thats fucking freaky! imagine giving birth to that and being like OMFG WTF IS THAT?!?!?! but then for the actual baby to die as well...............thats so sad! i cant even imagine how the parents must have felt =(
lilbeatch 1 year ago 2
@lilbeatch
there was a story like this called the two headed boy of bengal...the head would respond to stimuli independently of the boys actualy head....the facial features changed, and when the boy was asleep, the other head would sometimes be awake with the eyes darting around the room.
jsbeard18 1 year ago
heartbreaking
JohnnyFatSack 1 year ago
I think it's horrible, they are just talking about Manar and "the head".
WernerWonka 2 years ago
Well, that's what it is, a head.
Nollis 1 year ago
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fucking gross
blackcrowcam 2 years ago
LOL Sorry but it reminds me of the Nurse from Southpark, Excuse me if im offending anyone. Yes i Know this is accually very sad
kleinkopffff 2 years ago
A number of you have responded from what might be called a pragmatic, or "common sense" point of view. The "ethics" of the situation are not straight forward. From an "ethical" point of view, the decision was not simple. It was because of the "ethics" of the situation that the doctors referred to Islaam only as "the head' or "the parasite". If you think the choice was simple and obvious, then you don't comprehend the "ethics" of the situation and what it meant to the doctors.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
puunig, randompanda89, this is not simply a matter of whether I (personally) would have attempted to save the child with a full set of organs. The ethical questions are highly complex and you are missing them.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
....Continued.... The doctors have sworn an oath to protect life. If they acknowledge that Islaam lives, them they cannot destroy her. So they cannot even begin to treat her as a sensient being who can laugh, cry and feel fear. So the doctors do not at any time acknowledge Islaam as a "person", or speak of her by name. It is a strategy used to avoid ethical conflict.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
Cont. 2.... The doctors spoke of these two children as a baby (ie ONE baby) with a parasitic head, or ONE baby with two heads. But despite this decision, the ethical conflict remains clear. Islaam was plainly alive and showing brain activity, until they killed her.
KiIlling this person raises question not only in the medical profession, but also of religion. In the faith of the mother, this was a child made this way by God. The doctors had to find a way around this stumbling-block.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
Cont. 3.... I have an ethical interest in these separations. A doctor's comment after one separation in which both children died was "Even when the children die, the operation can't be regarded as a failure, because we always learn from it." In that case they were two otherwise healthy and delightful little girls that the family were encouraged (by the doctors) to have separated.
This is why it offends me that the doctors fail to acknowledge Islaam as a baby. It is unethical and dishonest.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
But then the reason they separated them was because both were going to die for sure if they kept them together. With separating them, there was a chance of Manar living.
godsfiddler 2 years ago
Yes, you are right, of course. But to actually make the cut that separated the children and killed Islaam meant taking a totally pragmatic approach, as in "Oh well, the parasite is going to die anyway." It was euthenasia in which the individual had not choice whatsoever. In fact neither individual had a choice. There are obvious reasons for what the doctors did. But it alarms me greatly that the doctors were so successful in denying that this was a living human brain/person that they destroyed.
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago
"But it alarms me greatly that the doctors were so successful in denying that this was a living human brain/person that they destroyed."
They didn't go into this thinking"oh well, no big deal".
This is a short clip, and I'm very sure this surgery really bothered the doctors knowing the one baby would die.
In this short clip, even the mother referred to them as ONE baby.
godsfiddler 2 years ago
It wasn't a difficult ethical question at all. It was either allow the twin to slowly "poison" Manar and thus herself both to death, or remove the twin and allow Manar to live. One dies or both die. In this situation, the obvious decision was to remove Islaam and let Manar keep living.
MiyasmaTube 2 years ago
If you watch the full documentary, there was an extremely well thought out religous desicion involved. learn you're facts, then comment.
cinnamoncandy674 2 years ago 2
This video, beginning with its title, and its very first words, offends me greatly. This is NOT Manar Maged and her parasite head. This is Manar and Islaam Maged, both of who could smile and cry, and one of whom experienced the sheer terror of knowing that she was about to be removed, like a wart or a birthmark, so that her sister could be that thing that our society values so much, "normal".
MandyJMaddison 2 years ago 3
"normal" as in, a synonym for "alive"?
watch the documentary and try to learn a thing or two before you go shitting up youtube comments.
puunig 2 years ago
what MandyJMaddison said was that this video is disgusting because it refers to Islaam as a parisite. and that they killed her because society wanted a "normal" child. They couldnt accept her for who she was, they couldnt accept Islaam as a part of her. "normal", in MandyJMaddison's veiw was sarcasm, not an acceptance of the terrible murder of Islaam.
UnpHotoGENiC 2 years ago
Yes, they tried. They let Manar and Islaam live on for 11 months together before it was clear that Manar (and thus Islaam) would die. She had already had, what? 8 heart failures before the operation? They could save one life, or none. Islaam had no chance of survival from the moment she as born; she had no lungs, no heart, no stomach, no arms or legs, only a brain.
I know it's sad she had to die but seriously, you people act as if there was another choice that could have saved them both.
puunig 2 years ago
Would you rather attempt to save one child with a full set of organs and who actually had a chance to live a normal life or allow both to die without doing anything? The parasitic twin (and yes, I'm going to call it that - call me coldhearted, your words do not affect me in the slightest) was showing signs of gangrene due to a lack of proper blood supply. That's not a human, it's a highly-sophisticated tumor, if nothing else. And from a human perspective, it's not a life worth living.
randompanda89 2 years ago
Had they left both as is, they both would have died. Manar died a year or so later, unfortunately, but Manar at least had a better chance of survival by being separated. They call the other one a parasitic twin, because that twin was poisoning Manar to death, putting extra stress on Manar's organs, etc.
godsfiddler 2 years ago
and also, of course she must have watched the whole documentary because nowhere in this does it mention Islaams name... dont be so quick to judge
UnpHotoGENiC 2 years ago
that has got to be the scariest video i have ever seen -
God is truly cruel sometimes
PetLadybug 2 years ago
Oh my God, I agree with you, this is sad and creeps me out.....
Sakuya727 2 years ago
la madre de ellos es una hija de mil puta viste nada mas a el bebe y a el pedazo de bebe lo deja desnudose caga de frio el bebito el existe tmbn me da lastima ellos ivan a ser gemelos pero no se terminaron de formar...si yo tuviera eso de hijo aunq tengo 10 años y me falta pero si yo cuandoo sea grande tengo ese bebe con el pedazo de otro bebe los querria a los dos
ThePauBe 2 years ago
has anyone ever seen the movie basket case when the siamese twins are like this except its sticking out the normal ones side and once they remove it they get their revenge for seperating them
delltardboy 2 years ago
ahh.....means they dont have to do the surgery.....now they was stil alive both.....sad
mylifeuae 2 years ago
they had to remove the twin otherwise manar would have died...but the sad thing is, they both died, anyway.
kakadoodoo3000 2 years ago
My choice for the single greatest video on YouTube!
Horrordomain 2 years ago
I thought Manar lived after surgery ;_;
So sad to hear that she died.
Decembirth 2 years ago
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Mwahohoho 2 years ago
There have only been 3 cases like this. All died early (for different reasons)so they weren't able to record much of the other twin's development. Islam did not show much reaction to people, but did cry and sleep on her own. Anyway, the mother would have lost both either way sadly. I saw in one picture they even dressed Islam. The mother said it hurt her to see the deceased baby after the surgery. They did not just disregard her. The mother had a hard time even going through with the surgery.
Mwahohoho 2 years ago
this was really sad
RisaLovelyComplex 2 years ago
uhh
islam had no BODY
couldnt live without manar
and was taking a HUGE toll on manars body
one blood supply going to two heads?
they would have surely died if they didnt atleast try to remove the parasite..
and it is a parasite. it couldnt live by itself, it was feeding off something else.
thats the definition of a parasite.
theres not even a question contemplating what you would do. ensure that both twins would die, or remove the parasite in hopes one would live. hmmm tough choice.
2010diva 2 years ago
My friend has this same view of the fetus. When it comes to abortion debates, he sticks to the fact that until the fetus is no longer a parasite, abortion is okay.
quitejaded 2 years ago
it was the right thing to do, but please don't call her a parasite. She was a little girl, her situation was very sad, she didn't deserve to be in that situation. Neither did manar. She has a name, and it's not parasite, it's islam
RisaLovelyComplex 2 years ago 17
Thank god :)
Angel214725 2 years ago
true. it broke my heart when they showed islam, dead. :(
kakadoodoo3000 2 years ago
they're both beautiful...i can only imagine how beautiful they wud've been if they survived ...well, they're both angels now, that's for sure..
redpunk87 2 years ago 2
Islam and Minar most likely would have looked like their twin sister. The three were to have been identical triplets if Islam had separated from Minar and developed normally in utero.
spicedjellybeans 2 years ago
Then cut off part of Manars body rather than Islaams head!
lostindreams3 2 years ago
i remember this and i couldn't believe it the first time i saw it, either. that "head" was actually her twin sister...and the doctors and the family chose to believe that little islam was just a parasitic growth that needed to be removed. i can't imagine what i would do in this situation, so i can't judge them, but that little girl was a human baby, and she was sacrificed for her sister's sake. there's no getting around that. it's beyond sad.
PeanutButterZombie00 2 years ago 6
i feel so sorry for islam, it was a person not just a worthless tumor that can be removed
brunettecherry23 2 years ago 8
manar this, manar that WHAT ABOUT ISLAAM poor baby (she wasn't a head she was a baby with a different personality and i think she counts to!)
iheartjonasbros101 2 years ago 24
i feel the same :(
brunettecherry23 2 years ago 13
@iheartjonasbros101 It's sad that both babies have now passed, but I definitely cried the most when little Islaam was gone. I didn't like when they referred to Islaam as just a head. Islaam cried, smiled, was awake independently of Manar, so I believe it had a soul and definitely its own personality, so too a consciousness. That's just my belief. I understand that one had to be sacrificed for the other to live, but still, very sad.
GogatsuGirl 1 year ago
I am glad she didn't survive. She was not meant to be.
RealmEternal 2 years ago
God just proved that abortion is wrong the child is alive without a heart, and lungs.
midwest26 2 years ago
Alive or not at the time of birth, they both ended up dying anyway.
SephieStrife 2 years ago
God messed up a bit on this one.
DadidiFTW 3 years ago
holy shit! so i guess that all of the head's systems run through both their heads so that the head can recieve all the nessasary nitrients. But still like how the fuck does it live, like i feel very srry and everything, it's just that its so interesting.
LavinaKina 3 years ago
so do they count it as 1 baby or as 2?
LILOREOHOTSTUFF1 3 years ago
OMG that is so scary
Xclgurlsmadison2X 3 years ago
I remember seeing this on TV!
XmadpkerX123 3 years ago
My heart goes out to the parents. HUGs XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
ironyd 3 years ago
The other head was moving... How is it possible? The head wasn't a full body.
xxBadluckCharmxx 3 years ago
Reflexes and such...no doubt the second part of the brain was malformed.
LadyRiwen 3 years ago
i like the atheist showdown here. please go on.
Kukident1 3 years ago
Intelligent design at its finest.
Tanjo22 3 years ago 3
With shit like this happening in the world, is there even a god? Because if there was why would this be?
RonaldJoseCarlos 3 years ago
It's not just a 'head' if it would have a whole body they would call it a 'twin' but she is just as much of a person as the other baby.
Nine00 3 years ago 4
interesting and shocking at same time.
too bad its shork. i would like to know how its ended.
Impulse116 3 years ago
what's disturbing is how the parasitic twin is simply referred to as "a head." what if she did feel emotion? sad.
trashywilma 3 years ago 6
Hellosztok van itt magyar ember is?
lengyelboy91 3 years ago
Hali! Igen, van itt sok magyar, csak keresni kell. :) Ettől függetlenül remélem valamennyire megtetszett a videóm, ha már ide írtál.
SzChristie 3 years ago
@SzChristie na, én most vettem észre, meglepődve, h. az infó először magyarul van:)
nagyon érdekes egyébkéént ezt a téma, megnéztem a born with two heads mind az öt részét is.
animacs1 2 years ago
I saw this show...It was the second case in ALL of history, the other one was before J-C and it just died because of a snake bite and not of the other baby attached to it....but Manar had to get her twin detached because it was to hard on her heart and stuff
loupwolfpower 3 years ago
The second twin, Islaam.
BenderRodriguezRox 3 years ago
why do they call the second baby "it" ???
chuibuh 3 years ago 5
Yeah! She's a human too! It's not like the person who posted this video is an "it" . You and me are not "its" :(
BenderRodriguezRox 3 years ago 5
I don't get what's wrong with our comments.
BenderRodriguezRox 3 years ago 3
thats wrong they murdered both babies.
and that second baby should've had a shirt on she or he could breath and blink and all which means she or he could obviously think too and feel cold and pain.
singingbabe26 3 years ago
If you'd actually lsitened to the video, the second head was poisoning the other one. She would have died anyway. The doctors were trying to save one at least.
splinterblade02 3 years ago 4
oh sorry. I just think it's sad though that they couldn't save manar
singingbabe26 3 years ago
Oh my God! God Bless everybody!
mhhm07 3 years ago
es para llorar q horrible
gatita547 3 years ago
It's very sad , because even though Islam didn't have a full body , if she had a brain then she was conscious hence , should have been treated like another human being .
I see her uncovered , they didn't even bother to make a little shirt for her to keep her warm , they just have her bare skin exposed , to the environment . Did they give her a proper burial ? Muslim burial ?
CureCorpsAfrica 3 years ago 7
I saw some pictures where Manar wear a normal shirt. I don't understand this, Islaam was the big obstacle. I want to know how could Islaam blink, open "her" mouth or breathing because that body moved a little bit.
I can't read about the infection because everywhere I see the same, that a "severe infection", but want to know it, what kind of infection? What was Islaam's other problems? But hope I can read about this, soon. Yeah, I think she had a proper burial.
Thanks for your comment!
SzChristie 3 years ago
@CureCorpsAfrica she did have a shirt, in the first video im pretty sure, but yes i agree with you
irawrsprinkles 1 year ago
wow-I love manar's twin islaam!Great job.I've sen this,and its so sad how they refer to only one baby.:(
BenderRodriguezRox 4 years ago 6
WoW, You love Islaam? Do you think Islaam had another personality? I'm sorry for Manar about the infection. She was quite different after the separation. I saw she was sadder than before with Islaam. It's so sad... Thanks for the comment! ;)
SzChristie 4 years ago