Yeah, but the American version messed it up and kept her name Moonlight like Margaret's.Her real last name is Twilight. If you look closely in the cutscene before the fight, however, one of the pictures Alice is burning depicts both her and Margaret, so it's believed that they knew each other.
People say that they had to make jasper bat jr. the fanal boss because if they didn't it would have ruined the moral of the game. If the final boss was smooth and cool, it would go against the "Revenge Destroys you" lesson. Which explains JBJ. But, if Alice was the final boss It could express how she lost so much chasing after something legendary (Travis) Doesn't exactly fit does it? But Jasper is broken and cheap, so Alice will always be the better boss.
there's probably an assasin right behind Travis in the rankings shitting himself right now as he reaches the third spot, realising that his rank means more dangerous assasins and the fact he never made it very high being a pain in the ass.
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5:00 ...What the fuck are you talking about?! It's a videogame, Asshole! Videogames aren't real! None of that is real! You're a fucking voice actor in a booth right now!
This is one reason why this game is stupid to me, despite being potentially fucking amazing. That scene would've be incredible if it wasn't for the idiotic decision to become self-referential at that moment. Way to undermine the point of the scene, Suda. Why don't you have him look into the camera and shrug while you're at it?
I like this game a lot more than NMH1 for this reason. In NMH1 you didn't really see Travis regretting or showing any mercy towards his opponents but in this game the ranking battles seem to be really taking affect on his brain, making him think that the ranking battles are just fucked up. You also learn that not every assassin wants to fight and they think they can't leave. It's a more emotional game than the first and thats why NMH2 is my favorite between the two.
Wow. Just imagine that Travis is talking to you instead of Sylvia, and it doesn't stop his argument from making sense. Hell, this argument makes even MORE sense when associated with the player.
This part of No More Heroes 2 is totally aw inspiring. I can see the symbolism of the character, the greatness of the battle and the epicness of the end of the battle.
BTW: Way to go Travis, tell Sylvia about who we are as humans!!!
He killed Alice because of his previous situation with Holly Summers. He dishonored Holly by not wanting to kill her, so similar things probably would've happened with Alice. She would've killed herself, or got gunned down by Sylvia. Also she told him to release her from the cycle. Travis granted her wish and he gave her such an intense and satisfying battle that her words after words sounded like something you'd say after sex. His actions were justified I think.
I know this game isn't supposed to be a serious one, but I wish there had been more conclusion to the story. Travis seems reluctant to fight, and I feel like the designers didn't develop on that quite enough in the ending. There is also lack of resolution between Henry and Travis, as well as Shinobu and Travis. Even if the resolution was silly, I would not care.
@Laxanii, you are not alone believe me. The game has been out for some time now so there's probably less discussion, but man, I remember posts about how people wanted Alice to be the final boss, myself included. Her story feels like it would have been far more conclusive, or otherwise fitting. To believe that she would kill Bishop just to get Travis's attention would make sense as well, though it might eliminate some of the "respect" this fight has.
@Ironcomics I think rules are you're supposed to kill your opponent. I think Shinobu was the only acception because she was 16 at the time, too young.
You know, at some point, at the latest after having the battle with Holly Summers in No More Heroes 1, I'd just give a shit on this whole competition, kill Sylvia and rip the entire UAA apart
Always telling Travis that he can't defeat the association is bullshit, he is capable of doing it easily
@sunjack8745 If you go back to the motel from the map screen after you Rank 25th you get a letter that you've been challenged by Kimmy Howell. You can skip the fight, by not going to the motel at all from the map screen.
apparently alice and margaret knew each other fucking awsome if you ask me, if you look reallllly closly at the pictures they are pictures of alice and margaret if you dont believe me look them up on google.... im pretty sure they're going to make a comeback in NMH3 FUCKING epic since they were the best bosses in this game in my opinion
@shunstar102521 Marluxia is definitely a male. I don't know any woman who can have such a manly voice. He was supposed to be a female at first, though. They changed it because they didn't wanted the traitors to be both female.
@lordoYYH255 So true. That's one of the biggest reasons I prefer the first game. But I do love Alice. Much like Holly Summers, she puts up good, challenging and fair fight. They're my two favourite assassins of the series. Pizza Batt is such a cheap little bitch, bouncing around and punching you out the window. I hate everything about him, but I guess that was pretty much his intended reception.
@redsquarenine That's true but it was really really annoying when you only had to hit her two or three more times to win and she kept on sending off those missiles over and over again.
alice was a woman travis coulve actually loved. sylvia was just a cock-tease and fucking. albeit travis and alice would be like mr. and mrs. smith, both wanted out of ranks, and use katanas. she shouldve gotten more appearance.
i wish she didn't get sliced in half but if they make a NMH3 i bet she would be like the new destroyman if only he had impaled her so it wouldn't be so gruesome
As much as I wanted to feel for Alice, I couldn't. Like Travis, I objectively saw her as the last obstacle to the end.
It didn't help that plotwise, we don't learn jack squat about too many of these killers as is, so it's left up to interpretation or speculation. NMH isn't meant to be TOO deep, but you'd THINK a little elaborating wouldn't hurt.
All else we know is some connection she has with Margaret, look for Blitzmage's vid of this, he has a photobucket link to the photos she's burning.
aww...she reminds me holly summers
sanbikai 2 weeks ago 2
Travis kills Alice
Travis:... RRRAAAAAAAAGH (IF I HAVE TO DRY CLEAN THIS SHIRT ONE MORE TIME ILL START A MISSION ON MYSELF)
elixa4 1 month ago
I could just imagine.
New Alice Moonlight.
Just like New Destroymen.
Ahiboa 1 month ago
Kills Alice. Travis: WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR?
mooganify 1 month ago
hey if destroyman got cut in half and came then so should alice
Marioisawesome22 1 month ago
She looks like Marluxia from kingdom hearts
srnefe 1 month ago
Travis Touchdown vs General Grievous it shall be o_o
HollowIchigo3D 1 month ago
Alice Moonlight? wasn't Margeret the one who's last name was Moonlight?
Bridgettefan231 1 month ago
@Bridgettefan231
Yeah, but the American version messed it up and kept her name Moonlight like Margaret's.Her real last name is Twilight. If you look closely in the cutscene before the fight, however, one of the pictures Alice is burning depicts both her and Margaret, so it's believed that they knew each other.
freebird2468 1 month ago
General Grevious and Doctor Octogonopus in a chick.
SO AWESOME
Pikazilla 2 months ago
I know this doesn't matter as much, but that's the shittiest fire crackle I've ever heard.
maggosh 2 months ago
:( Only if Travis leaves Alice alive.
razorbataa 2 months ago
there were so many bosses in this game that I didn't want to kill >o< they were so honorable.
z3Carlos 2 months ago
Marluxia's wife? She's got the hair, thats for sure.
TheAdventGhost 3 months ago
@TheAdventGhost Malurixia's straight
Plazoblock12 3 months ago
@TheAdventGhost Malurixia's straight?
Plazoblock12 3 months ago
@Plazoblock12 Vexen is a PEDO. I know that. Marluxia has a possibility.
TheAdventGhost 3 months ago
@TheAdventGhost Finally. Someone sees the resemblance.
TehFinalFantasygurl 1 month ago
Hate when good people die.
yooo9999 4 months ago
People say that they had to make jasper bat jr. the fanal boss because if they didn't it would have ruined the moral of the game. If the final boss was smooth and cool, it would go against the "Revenge Destroys you" lesson. Which explains JBJ. But, if Alice was the final boss It could express how she lost so much chasing after something legendary (Travis) Doesn't exactly fit does it? But Jasper is broken and cheap, so Alice will always be the better boss.
KingClockwork 4 months ago
She reminds me of Eva from MGS:Snake Eater and Lien Neville from KOF Maximum Impact.
InquisitorSledge 5 months ago
She's Margaret's sis. Look closely at the pictures she was burning.
Risingkiwi 5 months ago 5
@Risingkiwi Actually judging by the pictures id say She's Margaret's MOTHER
navarrobrian92 3 months ago
@navarrobrian92 Actually, judging by their different surnames, id say she is JUST A GOOD FRIEND.
smbzfan2 2 months ago
Is that Jennifer Hale playing Alice?
Dang0mon 5 months ago 15
@Dang0mon Yeah, it is.
TheWillowfur 5 months ago
@Dang0mon yep she also voices Kimmy
Clickykid 2 months ago
@Dang0mon yep X)
murosteel 1 month ago
Breaking the forth wall is and always has been a big part of the NMH franchise so if you don't like it then quit your bitching and try a new game
Alkeracs 5 months ago
there's probably an assasin right behind Travis in the rankings shitting himself right now as he reaches the third spot, realising that his rank means more dangerous assasins and the fact he never made it very high being a pain in the ass.
thebladeofchaos 6 months ago
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5:00 ...What the fuck are you talking about?! It's a videogame, Asshole! Videogames aren't real! None of that is real! You're a fucking voice actor in a booth right now!
This is one reason why this game is stupid to me, despite being potentially fucking amazing. That scene would've be incredible if it wasn't for the idiotic decision to become self-referential at that moment. Way to undermine the point of the scene, Suda. Why don't you have him look into the camera and shrug while you're at it?
IanCaronia 6 months ago
@IanCaronia ...guess you dont like movies with quotes like that too huh .? :{
saturdays1000 6 months ago
@IanCaronia It's No More Heroes, both games are FULL of self-referential stuff.
Hylian100 5 months ago
Sylvia, code name QB >=(
Trickster0514 6 months ago
I like this game a lot more than NMH1 for this reason. In NMH1 you didn't really see Travis regretting or showing any mercy towards his opponents but in this game the ranking battles seem to be really taking affect on his brain, making him think that the ranking battles are just fucked up. You also learn that not every assassin wants to fight and they think they can't leave. It's a more emotional game than the first and thats why NMH2 is my favorite between the two.
AshXXMayftw 6 months ago 2
This whole game is a commentary on games. I remember Bad Girl too, one of the most poignant examples of implicit criticism.
markthewhalekiller 6 months ago
Alice = Marluxia and Lightning's unholy child
DeviledX 6 months ago
Just as an idea, did he really have to kill her?
muratira 6 months ago
*Travis kills Alice*
Travis: Wha-what did I... RAAAA...
(We Interrupt this Broadcast for a Guitar RIFF!)
ZacksQuest 7 months ago 13
Whoops...I mean Alice Moonlight. XD
Sutcliffefever 7 months ago
I realised when you said that the rankings call her Alicew Moonlight. When I beat her, the rankings said Alice Twilight. :/ Possible cock-up.
Sutcliffefever 7 months ago
@TheSuperMarioMaster1 yep
lordoYYH255 7 months ago
@TheSuperMarioMaster1 you mean him lol? he does act a bit feminine tho.... but yeah he was the main villain of Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
lordoYYH255 7 months ago
Woah Woah Woah!!! Alice is related to Margret?!
Zetsuuga 7 months ago
the heros face is bloody nosed travis lol.
TheShumdog 7 months ago
"Doesn't matter if this is a viswo game, movie, drama, anime, manga"
MY FAVROTIE FUCKING LINE OF ALL TIME.
RequiemPwnagePSN 7 months ago
can u kill me?
sure. :3
ok (attacks)
the fuck was that for!?
i want to die.
volker136 8 months ago
I heard her name was Alice Twilight.. but at 5:53, what, the fuck
Dimentio63 8 months ago
I know this is a parody game, but even so the story is amazing.
chibirobo99999 8 months ago
lol These scenes are so meta.
yanipheonu 8 months ago
Wow. Just imagine that Travis is talking to you instead of Sylvia, and it doesn't stop his argument from making sense. Hell, this argument makes even MORE sense when associated with the player.
JojengaLPer 8 months ago
she looks like someone from an anime i know
unitedoverload2 8 months ago
ok i will admit this battle mad me kinda sad
saltireBLACKOPS 9 months ago
femme Commander Shepperd has a sister
jacqueshauer 9 months ago
What's the song in the back round?
thedarkmasters 10 months ago
Anyone notice Travis' beam katana is red until 4:06 ?
thedarkmasters 10 months ago
@thedarkmasters its a different katana you can change during the battle, and you can see the red one on travis's belt
123themysteryman789 10 months ago
@123themysteryman789 thanks
thedarkmasters 10 months ago
@thedarkmasters no prob:)
123themysteryman789 10 months ago
@123themysteryman789 Song in back round of beginning?
thedarkmasters 10 months ago
@thedarkmasters huh?
123themysteryman789 10 months ago
@123themysteryman789 What soung is in the back round at the begining when silvia talks to travis?
thedarkmasters 10 months ago
@thedarkmasters i think its called kill or be killed
123themysteryman789 10 months ago
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@123themysteryman789 What song is in the back round at the begining when silvia talks to travis?
thedarkmasters 10 months ago
This part of No More Heroes 2 is totally aw inspiring. I can see the symbolism of the character, the greatness of the battle and the epicness of the end of the battle.
BTW: Way to go Travis, tell Sylvia about who we are as humans!!!
joaoruy 10 months ago
I always thought that, 1 Marluxia should be in this game, and 2, Marluxia should be in his/her original gender.
I actually thought "Marluxia!?!?!?" when I got to this fight.
lunos219 11 months ago
The Hero's face=Travis's Face lol!
SuperPhoenixDragon 11 months ago
That was a lame cutscene towards the end... bad directing, really bad this time.
And bad Travis's voice actor as always. If he so "humanly" then why did he finishes his opponents at all? Fuck it.
Cellesse 11 months ago
@Cellesse your points are so invalid and your grammar kinda sucks, i mean so bad its noticeable
lordoYYH255 11 months ago
@lordoYYH255 and yours is too short to defend.
Cellesse 11 months ago
@Cellesse It's most likley because he didn't want her to be gunned down by Sylvia, like Ryuji was.
TheLonghairedfreak 11 months ago
@TheLonghairedfreak Well, if she is that strong as Travis, then she can take advantage at the situation.
Cellesse 11 months ago
@TheLonghairedfreak Well, if she is that strong as Travis, then she can take advantage at the situation.
Cellesse 11 months ago
@Cellesse
He killed Alice because of his previous situation with Holly Summers. He dishonored Holly by not wanting to kill her, so similar things probably would've happened with Alice. She would've killed herself, or got gunned down by Sylvia. Also she told him to release her from the cycle. Travis granted her wish and he gave her such an intense and satisfying battle that her words after words sounded like something you'd say after sex. His actions were justified I think.
dragonbladeclock 11 months ago
0:41
Doesn't Travis looks too big comparing to those houses and thinking how small travis should be, or is that some kind of small town?
IndexTyrzi 1 year ago
@IndexTyrzi I think this is just perspective
Asderuki 1 year ago
@Asderuki It looks that way, given the angle.
TheShadowXChaos 1 year ago
@Asderuki I don't think so look carefully.
think travis going now some of those buildings, he is not far away from those buildings.
or take an attention to that car 1:30 it's even closer. damn I want that big toy car. no seriously I do.
IndexTyrzi 1 year ago
i just watched a minute of travis walk on the sildwalk
4megatiger 1 year ago
Travis just beat someone with like 8 katanas... with ONE Katana.
Momentum139 1 year ago
It is said in the wikia is that Alice Twilight and Margaret Moonlight are suppose to be sisters
Lemurboy871 1 year ago
I know this game isn't supposed to be a serious one, but I wish there had been more conclusion to the story. Travis seems reluctant to fight, and I feel like the designers didn't develop on that quite enough in the ending. There is also lack of resolution between Henry and Travis, as well as Shinobu and Travis. Even if the resolution was silly, I would not care.
Laxanii 1 year ago 2
@Laxanii, you are not alone believe me. The game has been out for some time now so there's probably less discussion, but man, I remember posts about how people wanted Alice to be the final boss, myself included. Her story feels like it would have been far more conclusive, or otherwise fitting. To believe that she would kill Bishop just to get Travis's attention would make sense as well, though it might eliminate some of the "respect" this fight has.
Momentum139 1 year ago 17
1:27 Travis for President.
MoeGangsta 1 year ago
I swear when i see the jap, words pop out when the boss dies i always think it says "FUCKED" lol
juventinorocks 1 year ago 2
He's an idiot. If he's going to get mad that he killed her than why did he kill her..
Ironcomics 1 year ago
@Ironcomics I think rules are you're supposed to kill your opponent. I think Shinobu was the only acception because she was 16 at the time, too young.
DarnellHightower13 1 year ago
Fuck that I want to be a hero by my own standards.
cybrog9 1 year ago
You know, at some point, at the latest after having the battle with Holly Summers in No More Heroes 1, I'd just give a shit on this whole competition, kill Sylvia and rip the entire UAA apart
Always telling Travis that he can't defeat the association is bullshit, he is capable of doing it easily
Gamefreak175 1 year ago
@Gamefreak175
I don't think Travis or anyone could kill Sylvia if they wanted to lol. She is one cold muthafucka.
Himyvideoisthis 1 year ago
That was deep.
Brawler243 1 year ago
this is off topic but was kimmy howell in your guys games? she's in my boss deathmatch mode, but i never fought her in the main game...
sunjack8745 1 year ago
@sunjack8745 If you go back to the motel from the map screen after you Rank 25th you get a letter that you've been challenged by Kimmy Howell. You can skip the fight, by not going to the motel at all from the map screen.
minsengo 1 year ago
Bout time he told Sylvia off...every other cool girl except Shinobu dies, and Travis is left with that b*tch! Can't stand her!
TresBS1 1 year ago
Finally! A girl with pink hair who /isn't/ a bimbo.
BohemianScandalous 1 year ago
well, that place was hard to find :P
jishido614 1 year ago
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jishido614 1 year ago
thats not a secret place i went there last week
panashe00 1 year ago
apparently alice and margaret knew each other fucking awsome if you ask me, if you look reallllly closly at the pictures they are pictures of alice and margaret if you dont believe me look them up on google.... im pretty sure they're going to make a comeback in NMH3 FUCKING epic since they were the best bosses in this game in my opinion
fullm3tal90 1 year ago 2
@fullm3tal90
Yeah they were either Sisters or Cousins. hence the names Alice Twilight and Margaret Moonlight.
1Bullet2Ki11s 1 year ago
is silvia human
she got burned by the beam katana but didnt so much as flinch
WTF
jhnwasher 1 year ago
@jhnwasher no shes a psycho bitch.
jcudal32 1 year ago
@jhnwasher This reminds me what she told to Shinobu: "You can't kill me, silly".
Pangyarthur 1 year ago
great little quote he had there
shadowlizard4sauke 1 year ago
what i don't understand travis didn't want to kill her... but he kills her. does anybody else wonder why this happened?
volker136 1 year ago
@volker136 he doesnt like killing chix
shadowlizard4sauke 1 year ago
@shadowlizard4sauke
you sure? think about it. margaret, cloe, every oe of those fucking annoying cheerleaders.
volker136 1 year ago
@volker136 she wanted to go to paridise so travis sent her there
southparkdudz 1 year ago
Marluxia+General Grievous=Alice Twilight
StrangeClams 1 year ago 37
teaser trailer :D
pwnagebbqftw 1 year ago
Secret? I don't have time for guessing games.
BEST LINE EVER.
St3p7up 1 year ago
the walking bords me
mastervincent777 1 year ago
OMG GENERAL GRIEVOUS HAD A BABY!!!!
prixcn 1 year ago 2
its pronounced "mah-n-ga". robin downes has a habit of ignoring how foreign words are pronounced
SuperDawgE 1 year ago
What a game, huh
JeReL19 1 year ago
Marluxia has a sister lol
lordoYYH255 1 year ago 96
@lordoYYH255 lololol
DinosaurHunter10 1 year ago
@lordoYYH255 lightning and marluxia had a daughter. check out the clothing. reminds me of lightning's
OmegaKaras9 1 year ago 2
@lordoYYH255 My thoughts exactly
HatredEternal 1 year ago
@lordoYYH255 thats his name right from kingdom hearts cm right??
dragonblaster 1 year ago
@dragonblaster yeah the guy with the pink hair, black coathe, and scythe. His name is Marluxia
lordoYYH255 1 year ago
@lordoYYH255 HAD a sister :p
DaisukeOblivion 1 year ago
@DaisukeOblivion yea they're both Xd
lordoYYH255 1 year ago
@lordoYYH255 Finally someone notices the hair resembalance... xD
busoLostop 9 months ago
@lordoYYH255 dont you mean a twin sister, after all, there the same gender
shunstar102521 9 months ago
@shunstar102521 nah, no homo but Marluxia seems rather big and cut to be female. Look at him and look at Larxene
lordoYYH255 9 months ago
@shunstar102521 Marluxia is definitely a male. I don't know any woman who can have such a manly voice. He was supposed to be a female at first, though. They changed it because they didn't wanted the traitors to be both female.
Persian1313 9 months ago
she is more respectable then that Pizza Batt bitch. He is a sucky final boss compared to Jeane
lordoYYH255 1 year ago
@lordoYYH255 So true. That's one of the biggest reasons I prefer the first game. But I do love Alice. Much like Holly Summers, she puts up good, challenging and fair fight. They're my two favourite assassins of the series. Pizza Batt is such a cheap little bitch, bouncing around and punching you out the window. I hate everything about him, but I guess that was pretty much his intended reception.
redsquarenine 1 year ago
My favorite No More heroes assasins are Shinobu, Bad Girl, and Jeane
No More Heroes Despearate struggle are New Destroyman, Margaret, and Alice
lordoYYH255 1 year ago
look at the pics she throws away... shes related to margaret! look it up on google if you cant see
theelectroniczombie 1 year ago
I've seen them but that doesn't necessarily mean they're blood related though
lordoYYH255 1 year ago
@redsquarenine You actually thought Holly Summers put up fair fight!? Did you forget about all of those holes and the homing missiles or something?
Croner1 1 year ago
@Croner1 You can avoid them easily enough...
redsquarenine 1 year ago
@redsquarenine That's true but it was really really annoying when you only had to hit her two or three more times to win and she kept on sending off those missiles over and over again.
Croner1 1 year ago
is it me or i can see Bruce Campbell playing him.
lordjin 1 year ago
@lordjin right fucking on
Persona4fan75 1 year ago
5:03 WOW! travis almost discovers that his universe is just a videogame! maybe his telling that to the player who is controling him!
MrShapiroman 1 year ago
@MrShapiroman they already know they are a video game they mention it at the beggining
southparkdudz 1 year ago
Alive or a Lie?
4462892Perez 1 year ago
alice was a woman travis coulve actually loved. sylvia was just a cock-tease and fucking. albeit travis and alice would be like mr. and mrs. smith, both wanted out of ranks, and use katanas. she shouldve gotten more appearance.
InvaderSlusk1994 1 year ago 5
im guessing her last name is twilight or she would be related to margaret
zeldamaster52 1 year ago 2
Can't find the exit...
gijter 1 year ago
i wish she didn't get sliced in half but if they make a NMH3 i bet she would be like the new destroyman if only he had impaled her so it wouldn't be so gruesome
rubensolis13 1 year ago
As much as I wanted to feel for Alice, I couldn't. Like Travis, I objectively saw her as the last obstacle to the end.
It didn't help that plotwise, we don't learn jack squat about too many of these killers as is, so it's left up to interpretation or speculation. NMH isn't meant to be TOO deep, but you'd THINK a little elaborating wouldn't hurt.
All else we know is some connection she has with Margaret, look for Blitzmage's vid of this, he has a photobucket link to the photos she's burning.
SeoulMan 1 year ago
Sylvia doesn't feel pain? That.. might have some meaning.
SketchRoomAccount 2 years ago
it'd be awesome if in the end of one of the games she would be ranked 0 and you would have to kill her =)
theretardedfriends 1 year ago
Poor, poor Alice.
Ozimul 2 years ago
The interaction here reminds me of the interaction between Travis and Holly Summers.
zer0mission 2 years ago 63
@zer0mission But Alice is cooler !
ATrippToWonderland 1 year ago
yeah travis is growing up
XSeed8 2 years ago