In vent and in team speak there are different codecs that can be used for better latency. By default it is set up for Quality. I've set up channels on server with the better latency codec for tournaments and the difference is small but it puts it up there with mumble.
@M3G4G0TH I'm sorry, but if you're going to compare, you need a control variable. Being from different server locations can be vastly different. How servers are set up, quality of servers, etc. savasfreeman didn't bitch, he just stated a fact about your flawed test so you can (if you want, out of your free will) redo it with proper set ups.
wow wow wow wow... WAIT JUST A FREAKIN MINUTE!!!! I defiantly saw that Mumble was a HELL of a lot better... but did you say it was FREE?!?!?!?!!? That was the reason I used Skype! Does this mean no more super late "LEFT LEFT YOU STUPID IDIOTS!!! YOUR IN THE FUCKING FIRE" echoing around the raid AFTER my off tank and 3 of my DPS are dead??? ( mah guild fucking sucks but I love um' :D)
@SturFriedBrains of course its free. its open source. just google "sourceforge mumble" and download. getting a server is kinda iffy because mmble is not as popular BUT there are shit tons of public servers out there. just hop onto one of those and you will be fine. :)
@M3G4G0TH but if its a public server cant anyone just hop on it... so if im trying to say... make a machinima with people I know from the other side of the country, or I am trying to get my raid group to in line so we don't wipe... some troll can hop on and f*ck my sh!t up?
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haha. latency for what? localhost server mumble VS dedicated too far-placed ventrilo and teamspeek? stupid fake statistic, not real result. and bad GUI. author not right
@JMTCCM First of all, your sentence structure blows. Second of all, mumble is faster. Ask your mother to up your allowance so you can purchase a server and test yourself.
Also the worse your ping to them servers ofc you are going to have sound feedback. It is like if you used a cell phone and called someone in the united states. There is for sure going to be a dely because of distance. Just because you are on the net does not mean everythign is instant.
Ok I just have to as but where are all these servers located? Is the TS server and Vent server you are connection to in the United States or in some other country in Europe? Are you running Mumble off your own computer since you can run Murmur on host your own server? What you have shown really proves very little. Now if each and every one of them servers were in the same town on the same speed backbone and service providers then they can truly be compared.
@kilithmpv you obviously cant read... or you have disabled annotations. in that case, enable them again and see for yourself. the all-explaining annotation is the very first one and goes for ca 10 sek.
If any of you guys are looking for cheap ventrilo, mumble, or ts3 servers, check out v8servers(dot)com. 15 slot mumble for $2.02. 10 slot vent/ts3 for $2.24.
ditched vent today for mumble, i was Really suprised with the quality of the customer service aswell. i used the chat service and in less then 5min all my question were answered, and everything was perfect. Thanks for that video. made my guild switch and so far its amazing. TY m3g3g0th
@m43lgods glad u like it, spread it! many people still think TS3/vent is the real deal. and yes, for moderating servers etc TS3 is great but if you want a rough straight-to-the-deal VOIP solution mumble is the way to go. :)
@sfield86 i am so glad to hear that man! :) have you noticed that with the new mumble version the voice quality is even better? almost like sitting in the same room with the people! astonishing!
@M3G4G0TH Yeah :P I hardly ever hear the 'robot' voices anymore. And sometimes my roomate leaves his speakers on instead of his headset, so I hear myself talking, and most of the time I don't notice it because it's playing as I'm talking.
@Asgardinho skype, i dunno. i think its okay but its not really useful for VOIP in games because ot eats up a lot of bandwidth, especially if you have like a 5 people conversation. :)
there is mumblex.de , you an create your own mumble server for 48 hours and if you want you can reset the timer to 48 again, so mumble is really the VOIP tool of choice.
This video is a bit old, but I'm curious what your latency was with each individual server. As you said to Xipkore, if the server was local, there would be zero latency, but that's for every program: vent, TS, mumble. If you connected to a vent server with a latency of 10 and a mumble server with a latency of 200, vent would be faster -- or am I missing something?
I know how to get two running at the same time, but when I try to connect to the same server with both clients, the one I connected with first always gets disconnected and replaced with the second one. Even when I rename one of them to a different name.
The website is called multiplaygameservers(dot)com and I didn't see this, but you automatically get a free mumble server when you order a game server! I'm gonna split it with 5 friends too so it'll be dirt cheap!
@M3G4G0TH Oh good. I wasn't completely sure about if the site was legit because of how sweet the deals were. Let me know if you wanna play Minecraft any time lol
I like mumbles latency, it is great for competitive gaming. But I prefer ventrilos sound quality. I can't say I like mumbles auto-sound adjustment that much either, it has been buggy for some of my members and a bit for myself aswell.
I've seen these results myself, but just for the sake of curiosity... were these servers all run on the same machine or similar machines with similar connectivity roughly the same distance away?
@yanautopia the vent & TS servers are in UK (ca. 35ms), mumble server is in germany (25ms), not much of a difference, you wont notice a 10ms difference anyway, i promise. :)
@Andymanse8 well if you just want to have a good game with your friends, register at www_ mumblex_ de and create your own server. it stay on for 48 hours, you can reset the timer if you want to.
this video is the truth..my guild switched from Vent to Mumble..wayyyyy better. You can hear the person actually speaking while hes queing...instead of seconds later like shitty ass vent.
Think link is such fail. Ventrilo dont have any delay at all, only morons write that and only morons that dont know how to setup a VT get the delay that he trys to show.
Mumble are ok but sound setup etc. will NEVER beat ventrilo. So please this vidio, Delete it, u know shit about Ventrilo over mumble.
the vent & TS servers are in UK (ca. 35ms), mumble server is in germany (25ms), the mumble server was a clean install, thats why there are no channels etc.
The one second difference doesn't mean anything really. All this is, is another way for people to try and min/max everything. Simply put, any real gamer with a brain knows how to adjust themselves accordingly to response time. Because despite weather you remove the voip latency you can't remove thier game latency. Which causes more issues on calling shit out than the voip does. It's all about preference, like buying a car. All are going to have a plus and a minus and your opinion.
@xavier0307 if i understand you correctly you say : "low latency = high latency, it does not matter" ?
it does. if you call out an incoming grenade via teamspeak, the others will hear it when it explodes, on mumble though they will have 1sec, mayb half a sec to duck etc.
if mumble & game servers are in the same country, mumble is ingame-real time. if you shoot in the air and say "bam!" at the same time, the others will hear and see it at the same time on their end. thats "real time"
@M3G4G0TH I didn't say it didn't matter. What I said was the difference is minor compared to game latency. We can use, wow, eq, age of conan, and alot of other mmo's in which your movement is controlled client side. You can say bam all you want, but if they are running a game latency of 2k (obvious fake number just used for example) then the one second voice is not going matter as they are not going to see it in time regardless.In FPS it has it plus, but I guarantee you theres a minus as well.
@M3G4G0TH Well even then in an FPS not all latency is low. And depending on the game such as UT3 where the movement is still controlled client side. But even then, it's still something uncontrollable. I just wish people would stop swinging on mumble so hard as if it will solve all thier issues. Because it just wont. Some reality that it would help is fantastic, just dont portray it as the holy grail (not saying you did just in general).
normal conversations are easier too (im thinking of wow since u got videos of that game up) - how often does it happen that people try to speak at the same time? its easier with mumble due to shorter reaction time, less waiting. try it out. :)
if you want fast clear voip for efficient comms-use mumble, its the best tool for that purpose. if you have other purposes, dont use mumble.
if you want extra user management and all the extra stuff, use TS/vent etc. but have a laggy sound.
@Mropticalgreen you are wrong my friend. the distance to the server sure means something, but most of the time it's not important. not at all, 120ms to 20ms, its not much.
the way the tools handle audio-packaging, compressing and sending, the way the server proceeds the data and then the decompressing etc. that is what matters and teamspeak and ventrillo fail against mumble, its faster than sound itself. :)
wow, thats great.. the only problem is that vent has been around for so long (especially for cs 1.6) that you find it extremely hard to get people to switch to mumble :/
@M3G4G0TH 44.1 kHz bandwidth improves the ability to understand people quite a bit in my exp., especially when multiple people are talking/interrupting simultaneously, as it makes it easier to distinguish them; the voice sounds more natural. you can compare this by comparing Ventrilo with the Speex codec (32 kHz maximum) and the GSM codec (44 kHz maximum). It's sad that Mumble/Speex don't support 44.1 khz, since the Speex preprocessor (which Mumble & TS3 use, Vent doesn't) improves quality a LOT
Higher quality sound forces the computer to record bigger chunks, and then use more CPU power compressing it, more bandwidth to send it and on the other side more bandwidth recieving it, more cpu decompressing it and finally more cpu and memory playing it.
And that is probably one of the reasons why mumble is much faster. Because it uses a good mixture between sound quality and compression method. Leaving up more resources for gaming and keeping the latency down.
I will, without a doubt, choose the "lower quality" sound of someone saying, "Take cover grenade!" over the high quality version that comes 1 second after I died.
@sageinit and I don't see any of them supporting 96kHz or 192kHz ... because you don't speak with Hi Frequencies, in gaming quality don't mean frequencies but latency... and 32kHz (can represent frequencies between 20Hz and 16kHz) is better than a phone, usually we (99% of the earth human population) speak under 5000Hz (depend of languages and regions) so you can see that your lame comment is irrelevant
Ach ja, immer diese Mumble Hater... xD Jaja TS3 ist natürlich das beste, besonders weil sie alle Funktionen haben die Mumble nicht hat weil sie Scheisse sind xD
Super ist auch das jeder der <6000er DSL ist anfängt zu laggen bei hoher Qualität...
I have produced a very similar video, that has the Vent and Mumble servers running on the exact same physical server (possibly a more meaningful test). Should be able to find it in my videos.
I just made the switch, I was a long time user of Teamspeak, back in the old days. From there on I used Ventrilo up until this very day, my friend and I did the same count down test and Mumble is indeed as fast as it is in this video.
tl;dr: MUMBLE ROOLZ. OPEN SOURES, FREE, GO DOWNLOAD IT.
poor test, vent / ts could be on a server and mumble could of been on local server hosted on his comp. i could do same with either or client and have same effect for w/e client i liked the most.
@xipkore nope, the server was not local, with local there would have been NO latency at all. dont pretend to be clever, this test is to show legit facts. why should i cheat like that? :) the tool pwns without cheating.
His statement is perfectly valid and relevant since the TS server you are connecting to seems to be in Houston, TX and the Mumble server you are connecting to in Amsterdam or Germany (can't tell Vent.)
The latency does not have to come from Vent/TS/Mumble it can be your connection to the servers. A valid test show the IPs of the servers you are connecting to and your PING to those servers. A true test would have all 3 programs connecting to servers at the same location/server.
@TynieWoW i understand your argument, its not perfect. try this. get TS2 get vent get mumble try yourself :) i am sorry the test is so crappy but as i said, try yourself. TS2 server is in UK, forgottenhonor community vent was 12th IR somewhere western europe and mumble was germany. all pings are from 30(germany)-50(western europe) you will not notice 20ms ingame.
Mumble is the best so far. if you played a couple of different games where people communication is so importand on all 3 types of tools you know what I mean. I couldn't life withouth my guilds mumble server anymore. its just the best ;)
@aciddustify yes of course man... yesterday i was playing with a guy and we rolled over that hill in our tank, desert map... i shout over BF2 VOIP "HALT" since i could not aim while moving...
he heard it 1.5 sec too late... bam, the first hit came just when he stopped.
this would not have happened with mumble.
i was so mad :D hahaha everyone has to use mumble FFS!
@Luxverus nah dude, the TS and ventrilo servers were in the UK, ping is around 30. the mumble server was in west-germany, i live in east, ping -> 20ms.
you wont hear a difference of 10ms. never ever. its about how the VOIP tools compress and send the sound away. mumble is best.
Great Video. The new Mumble with the CELT codec promises even lower latency. I suggest anyone who might make a comparison video like this again, try "counting". Such as "Check, 1, 2, 3". That way, people can watch the video and get a better gauge of how long the delay is (users can hear you get cut off mid-sentence).
Thanks for the comparison. I'll definitely forward this video and try to convert some TS2/3 and Ventrilo people into Mumble.
yea but, we have to check if the mumble doesn't give more ping in game.. I play Cod4 and I use TS2. I never use mamble, in fact, I start knowing it since 5 minutes ago.. I'm going to try it. Personaly I don't like TS3, It give me more ping. It have a better quality, but I'm accustomed to use TS2 :D Nice vid.
@die2know nope mate sorry, my hardware does not support that. also - i just installed TS3 and jesus christ, if you are looking for SIMPLE and EASY voip, take mumble. TS3 is waaaay to overloaded. the new mumble clients do all the same. its enough to get along really nice.
@Yoonjin90 no its it not, it sounds perfect actually. watch my "rocks and caves" video answer, the people talking are talking on mumble. it sounds good, right? ;)
its all about clean and efficient programming, the mumble team made it perfect.
I used to like ventrilo more than ts2 because of the apparently limited features in ts2. But just recently I've ditched ventrilo because they haven't made much progress in years. I've had a little go with ts3 but can't really comment on although I do like it better than ts2. In the end I fired up mumble and wow I like what i see. I'm not expert or anything but mumble seems futuristic compared with the old voip titans.
@Sharft6 hell dude, its just because some dude said "fuck all that shit!" and hooked up with some friends to make a small programm which is made to DO ITS JOB - send VOIP information from A to B super fast with the best quality. no bullshit.
this is why the very first mumbles were super-simple and now they add stuff like registering, user systems etc.
@xxxED14THxxx sorry man, i dont have the possibility to do that beacuse of that crappy creative soundcard i have, it can not record mic and output at the same time, fucking shame dude. :/
TS3 has become pretty good, i think latency is not that much of an issue anymore, since the people at TS are not stupid and know whats going on in the underground! ;)
In vent and in team speak there are different codecs that can be used for better latency. By default it is set up for Quality. I've set up channels on server with the better latency codec for tournaments and the difference is small but it puts it up there with mumble.
walterj89 2 weeks ago
Seriously.. You test all 3, and put the other two servers in another country? That's not a proper test.
savasfreeman 1 month ago
@savasfreeman short: dont bitch, look how many people love it, go try yourself.
long: latency difference between germany (ca. 20ms) and UK (ca. 40ms) is .... 20ms!!! and you will NOT notice it at all.
what you WILL notice though isssss -> that fuckin half a second/full second delay.
again. go try yourself. again.
M3G4G0TH 1 month ago
@M3G4G0TH I'm sorry, but if you're going to compare, you need a control variable. Being from different server locations can be vastly different. How servers are set up, quality of servers, etc. savasfreeman didn't bitch, he just stated a fact about your flawed test so you can (if you want, out of your free will) redo it with proper set ups.
doubler3dpanda 1 week ago
@doubler3dpanda bullshit. the difference in servers is about 20ms.
i get your point but 20ms are not worth testing.
just try it yourself. if you live in europe an american mumble server will do better than a european TS server.
M3G4G0TH 1 week ago
I prefer Skype!
TITANKILLER335 1 month ago
wow wow wow wow... WAIT JUST A FREAKIN MINUTE!!!! I defiantly saw that Mumble was a HELL of a lot better... but did you say it was FREE?!?!?!?!!? That was the reason I used Skype! Does this mean no more super late "LEFT LEFT YOU STUPID IDIOTS!!! YOUR IN THE FUCKING FIRE" echoing around the raid AFTER my off tank and 3 of my DPS are dead??? ( mah guild fucking sucks but I love um' :D)
SturFriedBrains 1 month ago
@SturFriedBrains of course its free. its open source. just google "sourceforge mumble" and download. getting a server is kinda iffy because mmble is not as popular BUT there are shit tons of public servers out there. just hop onto one of those and you will be fine. :)
M3G4G0TH 1 month ago
@M3G4G0TH but if its a public server cant anyone just hop on it... so if im trying to say... make a machinima with people I know from the other side of the country, or I am trying to get my raid group to in line so we don't wipe... some troll can hop on and f*ck my sh!t up?
SturFriedBrains 1 month ago
@SturFriedBrains public = anyone can hop on.
mumble is pretty troll free. i have never experienced one. and if there is one - just quickly switch server :)
M3G4G0TH 1 month ago
thanks niggergoth
ROBLOXingHabbo 1 month ago
Check
AsianBoyzThai 2 months ago
cool:d
warriorLAN 2 months ago
Mumble is the way to go....love the way it evens everyone voices out with not adjustment of volume sliders! I <3 Mumble.
Dragmedown87 3 months ago
What about Xfire and Skype?
synix09 3 months ago
@synix09 Way, way slower.
goodandy3787 3 months ago
Fuck Trollers they can suck my left testicle.
eastsidebeastkidx 4 months ago
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eastsidebeastkidx 4 months ago
is it just me or did this dude say "Hello This is nigger god/goth" at the beginning?
KvltKommando 5 months ago in playlist Mumble
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He said Megagoth.
youtabeer 3 months ago
@KvltKommando Yes he said that.
andriksbeaver 1 month ago
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haha. latency for what? localhost server mumble VS dedicated too far-placed ventrilo and teamspeek? stupid fake statistic, not real result. and bad GUI. author not right
JMTCCM 5 months ago
@JMTCCM idiot, read the NOTES. i write there where the servers were!
M3G4G0TH 5 months ago
@M3G4G0TH you are idiot, where is on video config and IP's of servers? hostname's may be fake, if use "hosts" file. stop to deceive peoples
JMTCCM 5 months ago
@M3G4G0TH you are idiot, where is on video config and IP's of servers? hostname's may be fake, if use "hosts" file. stop to deceive peoples
JMTCCM 5 months ago
@JMTCCM 80.000 people are happy with my test. you are not. why not just try it yourself instead of fanboying around with no reason?
M3G4G0TH 5 months ago 4
@M3G4G0TH it's not fanboying. i have maked some tests, and i can tell you: mumble have same or large latency with normal setting in quality.
mumble and murmur is under GPL, but not better than ventrilo in latency, quality and usability
JMTCCM 4 months ago
@JMTCCM First of all, your sentence structure blows. Second of all, mumble is faster. Ask your mother to up your allowance so you can purchase a server and test yourself.
anonEmis 4 months ago
@anonEmis get away and tell it to your parents. if u can't think, it's so bad...
JMTCCM 4 months ago
@JMTCCM Point proven.
anonEmis 4 months ago
Also the worse your ping to them servers ofc you are going to have sound feedback. It is like if you used a cell phone and called someone in the united states. There is for sure going to be a dely because of distance. Just because you are on the net does not mean everythign is instant.
kilithmpv 6 months ago
Ok I just have to as but where are all these servers located? Is the TS server and Vent server you are connection to in the United States or in some other country in Europe? Are you running Mumble off your own computer since you can run Murmur on host your own server? What you have shown really proves very little. Now if each and every one of them servers were in the same town on the same speed backbone and service providers then they can truly be compared.
kilithmpv 6 months ago
@kilithmpv you obviously cant read... or you have disabled annotations. in that case, enable them again and see for yourself. the all-explaining annotation is the very first one and goes for ca 10 sek.
M3G4G0TH 6 months ago
fuck mumbles GUI
lSeKToRl 6 months ago
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If any of you guys are looking for cheap ventrilo, mumble, or ts3 servers, check out v8servers(dot)com. 15 slot mumble for $2.02. 10 slot vent/ts3 for $2.24.
bballplayer313 6 months ago
ditched vent today for mumble, i was Really suprised with the quality of the customer service aswell. i used the chat service and in less then 5min all my question were answered, and everything was perfect. Thanks for that video. made my guild switch and so far its amazing. TY m3g3g0th
m43lgods 7 months ago
M3g4g0th*
m43lgods 7 months ago
@m43lgods glad u like it, spread it! many people still think TS3/vent is the real deal. and yes, for moderating servers etc TS3 is great but if you want a rough straight-to-the-deal VOIP solution mumble is the way to go. :)
M3G4G0TH 7 months ago
yes but f.....k the latency if the sound quality is horrible same like in-game voip communication...TS is have a perfect clean sound!
simpsonbanz 7 months ago
@simpsonbanz mumble is better :) hands down.
M3G4G0TH 7 months ago
This video made me switch my guild's VOIP from ventrilo to mumble last fall. It's been my VOIP client of choice since then.
sfield86 7 months ago
@sfield86 i am so glad to hear that man! :) have you noticed that with the new mumble version the voice quality is even better? almost like sitting in the same room with the people! astonishing!
M3G4G0TH 7 months ago
@M3G4G0TH Yeah :P I hardly ever hear the 'robot' voices anymore. And sometimes my roomate leaves his speakers on instead of his headset, so I hear myself talking, and most of the time I don't notice it because it's playing as I'm talking.
sfield86 7 months ago
Check out my video reply or my channel, talking about another VOIP server / client
TheNoodlecups 7 months ago
what are steam?
LouieBravo1 7 months ago
Mumble is greater then ventrilo!
ShammyWoWLoL 8 months ago
I thought he said N****r goth. :O Not racist
TNRSparkster 8 months ago
how did you open two same programs at the same time?
efastMixer 8 months ago
@efastMixer type -m in the target
Keep3rz 8 months ago
what about skype
Asgardinho 10 months ago
@Asgardinho skype, i dunno. i think its okay but its not really useful for VOIP in games because ot eats up a lot of bandwidth, especially if you have like a 5 people conversation. :)
there is mumblex.de , you an create your own mumble server for 48 hours and if you want you can reset the timer to 48 again, so mumble is really the VOIP tool of choice.
M3G4G0TH 10 months ago 2
This video is a bit old, but I'm curious what your latency was with each individual server. As you said to Xipkore, if the server was local, there would be zero latency, but that's for every program: vent, TS, mumble. If you connected to a vent server with a latency of 10 and a mumble server with a latency of 200, vent would be faster -- or am I missing something?
Jaenus80 11 months ago
@Jaenus80 sorry to disappoint - mumble would be faster. still.
i just dont know what to say man, just try it.
maybe, but JUST MAYBE vent is faster is now. but i know for sure that TS3 is NOT since i am using it a lot. still feels like baaah... :(
as i said tens of time - latency to vent server was like 25 (normal german->german latency) and to TS2 was like 35 (normal germany->UK latency).
M3G4G0TH 11 months ago
@M3G4G0TH ive used all 3 there all the same its just the distance from the server which makes the delay on the voices
mikobean12 11 months ago
es mejor mumble, como se hace un servervidor propio ayuda!!!!
PerformanceMixs 11 months ago
M3G4G0TH, how did you connect to the same mumble server twice with 2 different names?
Jartvitogwaa 1 year ago
@Jartvitogwaa hey mate! :)
mhh, let me think, there was a file you should replace and then it would be possible. hold on...
i found it. its easier now!
google
"run multiple mumble instances"
:) first entry on the mumble wiki.
enjoy it! :)
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH
I know how to get two running at the same time, but when I try to connect to the same server with both clients, the one I connected with first always gets disconnected and replaced with the second one. Even when I rename one of them to a different name.
Jartvitogwaa 1 year ago
@Jartvitogwaa oh, well ... mh, i dont really know, sorry... try the mumble forums.
i did this video a long time ago, long before 1.2 cane out. already back then it was a great tool.
maybe they made a protection so no spam bots can join from same IP? or maybe its a server sided setting?
sorry mate, cant really help out here, as i said, try the forums. :(
i wish you good luck!
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
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mumble= trash cant even adjust individual volume, if you lag at anytime people will sound like robot...
who the fuck uses mumble anyway
qbthething 1 year ago
@qbthething keep trolling. :)
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago 5
The website is called multiplaygameservers(dot)com and I didn't see this, but you automatically get a free mumble server when you order a game server! I'm gonna split it with 5 friends too so it'll be dirt cheap!
OcloOppo 1 year ago
@OcloOppo i know that site. :) mumble is gonna do you well! so quick! enjoy the combat! ;D
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH Oh good. I wasn't completely sure about if the site was legit because of how sweet the deals were. Let me know if you wanna play Minecraft any time lol
OcloOppo 1 year ago
Wow. And I can rent a 10 slot, 12 month mumble server for $10 dollars on my favorite server hosting site.
OcloOppo 1 year ago
@OcloOppo oh wow, mate, do it! :)
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
mumble pwns...
CookieOnMyShoulder 1 year ago
I like mumbles latency, it is great for competitive gaming. But I prefer ventrilos sound quality. I can't say I like mumbles auto-sound adjustment that much either, it has been buggy for some of my members and a bit for myself aswell.
Eddii3 1 year ago
mumble rapes
YourNumber1Choice 1 year ago
mumble<333
jrrangry 1 year ago
We offer a free chanel on our public server to ANYONE that does understand RESPECT you can join us on 208.89.208.140 (64738) come see tamagotchy
QuebecGaming 1 year ago
I've seen these results myself, but just for the sake of curiosity... were these servers all run on the same machine or similar machines with similar connectivity roughly the same distance away?
yanautopia 1 year ago
@yanautopia the vent & TS servers are in UK (ca. 35ms), mumble server is in germany (25ms), not much of a difference, you wont notice a 10ms difference anyway, i promise. :)
mumble is the shit!
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
wow, I'm convined.
fuglypump 1 year ago
lol
1..2...6.. B1tch
TheHIdDenAc3 1 year ago 62
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xvuu 1 year ago
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Andymanse8 1 year ago
@Andymanse8 no, of course not. just like TS has its own servers and ventrilo has its own servers
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
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Andymanse8 1 year ago
@Andymanse8 well if you just want to have a good game with your friends, register at www_ mumblex_ de and create your own server. it stay on for 48 hours, you can reset the timer if you want to.
best solution imo. :)
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH Wow, thanks!
Andymanse8 1 year ago
@Andymanse8 have fun!
if you have translation troubles - write me a message.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH Yeah lol, I have to use Google Translator.
Andymanse8 1 year ago
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Andymanse8 1 year ago
does any one know if mumble is free
walkingman32 1 year ago
@walkingman32 of course its free dude, its open source! check the link in the "more info" box, ;)
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
this video is the truth..my guild switched from Vent to Mumble..wayyyyy better. You can hear the person actually speaking while hes queing...instead of seconds later like shitty ass vent.
Thramkar 1 year ago
@Thramkar glad you like it :)
spread mumble!
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
This link*
crydkk 1 year ago
Think link is such fail. Ventrilo dont have any delay at all, only morons write that and only morons that dont know how to setup a VT get the delay that he trys to show.
Mumble are ok but sound setup etc. will NEVER beat ventrilo. So please this vidio, Delete it, u know shit about Ventrilo over mumble.
crydkk 1 year ago
@crydkk give proof.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@crydkk ventrilo has delay. lol @ you thinking it has no delay. dumb fuck
rsxhitman 1 year ago
Yeah, but what about the servers? If all is run on localhost I doubt it will take 1 second for TS and vent...
EmilDavil 1 year ago
@EmilDavil there is no local server.
the vent & TS servers are in UK (ca. 35ms), mumble server is in germany (25ms), the mumble server was a clean install, thats why there are no channels etc.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
The one second difference doesn't mean anything really. All this is, is another way for people to try and min/max everything. Simply put, any real gamer with a brain knows how to adjust themselves accordingly to response time. Because despite weather you remove the voip latency you can't remove thier game latency. Which causes more issues on calling shit out than the voip does. It's all about preference, like buying a car. All are going to have a plus and a minus and your opinion.
xavier0307 1 year ago
@xavier0307 if i understand you correctly you say : "low latency = high latency, it does not matter" ?
it does. if you call out an incoming grenade via teamspeak, the others will hear it when it explodes, on mumble though they will have 1sec, mayb half a sec to duck etc.
if mumble & game servers are in the same country, mumble is ingame-real time. if you shoot in the air and say "bam!" at the same time, the others will hear and see it at the same time on their end. thats "real time"
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH I didn't say it didn't matter. What I said was the difference is minor compared to game latency. We can use, wow, eq, age of conan, and alot of other mmo's in which your movement is controlled client side. You can say bam all you want, but if they are running a game latency of 2k (obvious fake number just used for example) then the one second voice is not going matter as they are not going to see it in time regardless.In FPS it has it plus, but I guarantee you theres a minus as well.
xavier0307 1 year ago
@xavier0307 ah, now i understand. right. :)
sure, there are slow-paced games. i was thinking of first person shooters where latency is low and fast reaction and communication matters.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH Well even then in an FPS not all latency is low. And depending on the game such as UT3 where the movement is still controlled client side. But even then, it's still something uncontrollable. I just wish people would stop swinging on mumble so hard as if it will solve all thier issues. Because it just wont. Some reality that it would help is fantastic, just dont portray it as the holy grail (not saying you did just in general).
xavier0307 1 year ago
normal conversations are easier too (im thinking of wow since u got videos of that game up) - how often does it happen that people try to speak at the same time? its easier with mumble due to shorter reaction time, less waiting. try it out. :)
if you want fast clear voip for efficient comms-use mumble, its the best tool for that purpose. if you have other purposes, dont use mumble.
if you want extra user management and all the extra stuff, use TS/vent etc. but have a laggy sound.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH We currently use mumble, I'm just saying it's not the holy grail. Don't play wow anymore either but it's all good man.
xavier0307 1 year ago
wtf it does not have anything to do with mumble ventrilo or teamspeak it's about the distance from the server
Mropticalgreen 1 year ago
@Mropticalgreen you are wrong my friend. the distance to the server sure means something, but most of the time it's not important. not at all, 120ms to 20ms, its not much.
the way the tools handle audio-packaging, compressing and sending, the way the server proceeds the data and then the decompressing etc. that is what matters and teamspeak and ventrillo fail against mumble, its faster than sound itself. :)
look here:
blog*mumble*info/oh-no-weve-made-a-buzzword/
replace the * with a dot.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I assume all three VoIP software products are installed and running in the same geographic location and/or server. Please confirm. Danke.
cencolt 1 year ago
I assume all three VoIP software products are installed and running in the same geographic location and/or server. Please confirm. Danke.
cencolt 1 year ago
wow, thats great.. the only problem is that vent has been around for so long (especially for cs 1.6) that you find it extremely hard to get people to switch to mumble :/
xCraZykAi 1 year ago
Too bad Mumble still doesn't support 44.1 kHz Bandwidth, only 32 kHz, just like Teamspeak 3, it's really a shame.
sageinit 1 year ago
@sageinit apparently for such a "plain" thing as "voice" you dont need 44.1 khz.
its about being able to understand what the other person is saying and mumble is doing a great job at that in my opinion. :)
or maybe you could tell me an example of 44.1 being useful for VOIP
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago 2
@M3G4G0TH 44.1 kHz bandwidth improves the ability to understand people quite a bit in my exp., especially when multiple people are talking/interrupting simultaneously, as it makes it easier to distinguish them; the voice sounds more natural. you can compare this by comparing Ventrilo with the Speex codec (32 kHz maximum) and the GSM codec (44 kHz maximum). It's sad that Mumble/Speex don't support 44.1 khz, since the Speex preprocessor (which Mumble & TS3 use, Vent doesn't) improves quality a LOT
sageinit 1 year ago
@sageinit
Higher quality sound forces the computer to record bigger chunks, and then use more CPU power compressing it, more bandwidth to send it and on the other side more bandwidth recieving it, more cpu decompressing it and finally more cpu and memory playing it.
And that is probably one of the reasons why mumble is much faster. Because it uses a good mixture between sound quality and compression method. Leaving up more resources for gaming and keeping the latency down.
Paskatomten 1 year ago
@sageinit
I will, without a doubt, choose the "lower quality" sound of someone saying, "Take cover grenade!" over the high quality version that comes 1 second after I died.
sodacan187 1 year ago
@sageinit and I don't see any of them supporting 96kHz or 192kHz ... because you don't speak with Hi Frequencies, in gaming quality don't mean frequencies but latency... and 32kHz (can represent frequencies between 20Hz and 16kHz) is better than a phone, usually we (99% of the earth human population) speak under 5000Hz (depend of languages and regions) so you can see that your lame comment is irrelevant
gglobot 1 year ago
@sageinit mumble is much cheaper also
BetterDayz19 1 year ago
mumble <3 :)
NicolasPoonz 1 year ago
LMFAO!
"One two six BITCH!"
gamergg 1 year ago
Han f0skar jue!
TankAbbott000 1 year ago
Ach ja, immer diese Mumble Hater... xD Jaja TS3 ist natürlich das beste, besonders weil sie alle Funktionen haben die Mumble nicht hat weil sie Scheisse sind xD
Super ist auch das jeder der <6000er DSL ist anfängt zu laggen bei hoher Qualität...
RaZorWoW 1 year ago
mumble,ventrilo is alles schrott,benutz TS3 ;)
T1ms3rul3zZ 1 year ago
@T1ms3rul3zZ nö, TS3 is ein lahmes stück.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH tja dann kauf dir besseres internet oder nen besseren PC ;)
T1ms3rul3zZ 1 year ago
@T1ms3rul3zZ depp, latenzzeiten haben nichts mit der hardware des clients zu tun.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH sicher sicher,musst dich ja auskennen vogel!!!
T1ms3rul3zZ 1 year ago
shutdown your ventrilo server. your ventrilo hoster - shit
madmaximkaz 1 year ago
@madmaximkaz explain
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@madmaximkaz
watch the video response, my friend.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
I have produced a very similar video, that has the Vent and Mumble servers running on the exact same physical server (possibly a more meaningful test). Should be able to find it in my videos.
TradeMarkNZ 1 year ago
compare with teamspeak 3 please
Ch1llCS 1 year ago
Mumble is good 4 gaming of Shooter games, cuz is fast
NMblindBBC 1 year ago
Great Vid man oh and 1-2-6 BITCH!!! lol
XxErinelxX 1 year ago
did you say bitch at the end of mumble xDDD
BBvez 1 year ago
Nice! Mby I switch then :)
melsody 1 year ago
Sounds very good. Gotta try Mumble now.
Revooolt 1 year ago
I <3 Mumble
tupa28 1 year ago
I just made the switch, I was a long time user of Teamspeak, back in the old days. From there on I used Ventrilo up until this very day, my friend and I did the same count down test and Mumble is indeed as fast as it is in this video.
tl;dr: MUMBLE ROOLZ. OPEN SOURES, FREE, GO DOWNLOAD IT.
ballacaust 1 year ago
@ballacaust am happy, really really happy that you are happy with mumble. :)
its fast indeed and with the right settings the best sounding VOIP tool.
have a very nice day and keep posting this video and your comment, this is what makes people think, personal experience!
spread mumble! open source ftw!
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
Screw all these. Roger Wilco FTW noobs
lurtiskoe 1 year ago
one, two, six, bitch loled
hartertobak 1 year ago 2
poor test, vent / ts could be on a server and mumble could of been on local server hosted on his comp. i could do same with either or client and have same effect for w/e client i liked the most.
xipkore 1 year ago
@xipkore nope, the server was not local, with local there would have been NO latency at all. dont pretend to be clever, this test is to show legit facts. why should i cheat like that? :) the tool pwns without cheating.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago 13
@M3G4G0TH
His statement is perfectly valid and relevant since the TS server you are connecting to seems to be in Houston, TX and the Mumble server you are connecting to in Amsterdam or Germany (can't tell Vent.)
The latency does not have to come from Vent/TS/Mumble it can be your connection to the servers. A valid test show the IPs of the servers you are connecting to and your PING to those servers. A true test would have all 3 programs connecting to servers at the same location/server.
TynieWoW 1 year ago
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
Mumble is the best so far. if you played a couple of different games where people communication is so importand on all 3 types of tools you know what I mean. I couldn't life withouth my guilds mumble server anymore. its just the best ;)
aciddustify 1 year ago
@aciddustify yes of course man... yesterday i was playing with a guy and we rolled over that hill in our tank, desert map... i shout over BF2 VOIP "HALT" since i could not aim while moving...
he heard it 1.5 sec too late... bam, the first hit came just when he stopped.
this would not have happened with mumble.
i was so mad :D hahaha everyone has to use mumble FFS!
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
Poor testing method
its just sooooooooooooo dependable on wich server you conected for each TS2, V, and mumble that i wont counter argue the vid
Luxverus 1 year ago
@Luxverus nah dude, the TS and ventrilo servers were in the UK, ping is around 30. the mumble server was in west-germany, i live in east, ping -> 20ms.
you wont hear a difference of 10ms. never ever. its about how the VOIP tools compress and send the sound away. mumble is best.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
Great Video. The new Mumble with the CELT codec promises even lower latency. I suggest anyone who might make a comparison video like this again, try "counting". Such as "Check, 1, 2, 3". That way, people can watch the video and get a better gauge of how long the delay is (users can hear you get cut off mid-sentence).
Thanks for the comparison. I'll definitely forward this video and try to convert some TS2/3 and Ventrilo people into Mumble.
MonkRX 1 year ago 2
@MonkRX thanks for the comment. the new mumble is pure love dude... i tried it.
its just sad that i cant record input&output at the same time on win7 anymore with my xfi.
used to have an audigy for that... :/
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
yea but, we have to check if the mumble doesn't give more ping in game.. I play Cod4 and I use TS2. I never use mamble, in fact, I start knowing it since 5 minutes ago.. I'm going to try it. Personaly I don't like TS3, It give me more ping. It have a better quality, but I'm accustomed to use TS2 :D Nice vid.
Agus4815 1 year ago
@Agus4815 mumble gives high quality without eaiting your internet too much. ;D
you will love it.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
@M3G4G0TH Jaja! thx, I will try it :D
Agus4815 1 year ago
Can you test ts3 vs mumble? :)
die2know 1 year ago
@die2know nope mate sorry, my hardware does not support that. also - i just installed TS3 and jesus christ, if you are looking for SIMPLE and EASY voip, take mumble. TS3 is waaaay to overloaded. the new mumble clients do all the same. its enough to get along really nice.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
k tipo de programa usas tu para esto
molleta89 1 year ago
Ventrilo doesn't need "at least 1 sec", not when you have a reasonably fast connection to the server. This is a ridiculous generalisation ...
digitalnexus 1 year ago
is the quailty worsened to get that latency?
Yoonjin90 1 year ago
@Yoonjin90 no its it not, it sounds perfect actually. watch my "rocks and caves" video answer, the people talking are talking on mumble. it sounds good, right? ;)
its all about clean and efficient programming, the mumble team made it perfect.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
I used to like ventrilo more than ts2 because of the apparently limited features in ts2. But just recently I've ditched ventrilo because they haven't made much progress in years. I've had a little go with ts3 but can't really comment on although I do like it better than ts2. In the end I fired up mumble and wow I like what i see. I'm not expert or anything but mumble seems futuristic compared with the old voip titans.
Sharft6 1 year ago
@Sharft6 hell dude, its just because some dude said "fuck all that shit!" and hooked up with some friends to make a small programm which is made to DO ITS JOB - send VOIP information from A to B super fast with the best quality. no bullshit.
this is why the very first mumbles were super-simple and now they add stuff like registering, user systems etc.
:) happy you like it!
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
Skype for the win.
markooo01 1 year ago
@markooo01 skype is cool but it eats waaay too much bandwith.
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
I'm want retest :)
xxxED14THxxx 1 year ago
TS2 lol, why not TS3 it's better in much times
xxxED14THxxx 1 year ago
@xxxED14THxxx sorry man, i dont have the possibility to do that beacuse of that crappy creative soundcard i have, it can not record mic and output at the same time, fucking shame dude. :/
TS3 has become pretty good, i think latency is not that much of an issue anymore, since the people at TS are not stupid and know whats going on in the underground! ;)
M3G4G0TH 1 year ago
Mumble ftw :)
Sanfthauch 1 year ago
MUMBLE knockdown ts 2 and ventrilo
bejkolczasty 1 year ago
"Check, check, 1, 2, 6.. bitch" lol
Marksman42 1 year ago
You could do a test to TS3 and upload?
fiury69 1 year ago
Thats the reason why our clan is having a mumble server
daphilmc2 1 year ago
Thank you very mutch, thats realy amazing... hard to see how long the time is from player to player...
In Games like CounterStrike is that sooo important.
THANKS! *****
DragonBrut 1 year ago
Thank you
rostenyto 1 year ago
mumble ftw
pkrebsen 1 year ago