"Why does China have a 25% tariff on american made goods, but we have a 2% tariff on their goods?"
Why does the US have a 70% income tax when the Cayman Islands has an income tax of 0%? Why do you keep avoiding the point that ALL TAXES ARE STEALING AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM IS A THEIF? Oh that's right... because you're a sociopath and a schizophrenic who would rather avoid than accept reality.
If individual A buys a consumer good from individual B then A is investing in C.
Not only is the purchase of a consumer good not an investment, party C has nothing to do with the transaction between A and B. Schizophrenia on stilts.
@sanitydotorg Hey ignorant traitorous pig, why doesn't the Chinese subsistence worker own those U.S T-Bills, instead of the Communist Chinese Government.
Wow the schizophrenia gets even deeper. How do treasury notes have anything to do with it? That's parties C and D. I.e. The Chinese government (C) buys those from the US government (D). That has even less to do with A and B than your original raving whackjobbery. The more you talk, the more unstable you become.
@sanitydotorg Listen traitorous pig, and I will explain to you China's industrialization policy. Listen real close you ignorant pig, I will make it so simple that a 40 IQ like yourself can understand it. The Communist Chinese Government, having full control over their populous offered these peasants to multinational corporations as cheap labor. Not to help the peasant, but to encourage foreign investment. I will stop there- when you acknowledge that you understand that much, I will add more.
"The Communist Chinese Government, having full control over their populous offered these peasants to multinational corporations as cheap labor."
LOL. Yes. I'm sure individual choice has absolutely nothing to do with it. Do you have any points or coherent thoughts or are you just going to keep running around in contradictory circles?
@AndroidGZS The Communist Chinese government has total control over the Chinese worker. Workers have no rights, the unions in China are state controlled. The best example of the Chinese government is Tiananmen Square tin 1989. There is a well connected class in China that is making out like bandits by the influx of western capital. But the Chinese peasant is just as poor now as they ever were. The only change that took place was, they went form subsistence farmer to subsistence factory worker.
@AndroidGZS Did you know that Protectionist Capitalism was the economic ideology that created the american middle class. Did you know that laissez-faire capitalism, and neo-liberalism is the political ideology that is destroying the american middle class. Did you know that the 400 ultra rich, in the U.S. owned more wealth than the bottom 50% of America.
@sanitydotorg Hey traitorous pig, I take it that your 40 IQ has difficulty understanding my last post. Only stupid, stupid people would deny their own countrymen jobs, while happily encouraging investment in a communist economy. You are a sick puppy.
Actually, I'm supporting free markets and voluntary association. You're the one who is supporting communism by wanting to enforce government controls on trade. Everything you say is completely contradictory. You're the socialist, not me. You might recognize that if you weren't a raving schizophrenic. And for the record, when a job moves to China, all it does is create higher paying jobs in the US. Look up Comparative Advantage some time jackass.
@sanitydotorg Actually you traitorous pig, you are supporting a brutal Communist Government, who exercises total control over their populous. You may call me a protectionist capitalist after the tradition of Alexander Hamilton if you do not mind. Concerning comparative advantage. Japan has no coal or iron ore, yet they manufacture more steel than the U.S. does. Even though their economy is much smaller than the U.S. The built the entire industry by state subsidy and large tariffs.
"protectionist capitalist" is an oxymoron. The fact that you believe that there is such a thing is again a symptom of your schizophrenia, as oxymorons only exist in hallucinations. Capitalism is about freedom. Tarriffs are anti-freedom and jingoistic nationalistic fantasies. Goverment is the opposite of capitalism. There is no such thing as a capitalist country. You can either have capitalism or a country, but you cannot have both.
@sanit NO, NO moron traitorous pig, I am a protectionist capitalist, you are a laissez-faire capitalist who does not hold loyalties to any country. You world eagerly trade your american citizenship for a global one. You are saying Alexander Hamilton who passed the first tariff laws in 1789, thirteen years after he signed the constitution. Wow do you stay up nights dreaming this stuff up. Did you dream that Hamilton and Washington didn't want a country, WELL to be expected from a traitorous pig.
Capitalism: Social system based on private property, freedom and voluntary exchange.
Protectionism: Social system based on terrorism and retarding voluntary exchange, in order to prevent competition so that some special interest group of incompetents can extract extortion prices at the expense of the general public. See also, patents, copyright, tariffs, etc.
You're schizophrenic. These two things are not compatible. They are polar opposites.
@sani Hey, did you know that Apple computer via Steve Jobs created 200,000 to 250,000 jobs in China. However Apple only employed 47,000 in the U.S. All of them low paying jobs in retail or the service sector.
How do you figure that every job created in China creates one in the U.S. This is just another example of how dense and ignorant you are.
You should be aware that Protectionist Capitalism and union activity created the american middle class, and you are probably a product of that class.
Oh really? So I suppose that the Chinese are writing all of Apple software, doing the EE work, the marketing, the management, doing the QA testing, sales, etc.
If you lost your job to someone who didnt even speak English, you should fucking kill yourself. In any case, you and everyone else who support the existence of government ought to be put to death like the murderers that you are. Fuck off swine. It's obvious that you will never be a human being.
@louiethegreater Did you know that one of Apple's suppliers in China has had a few employees commit suicide at the work site by jumping from windows? That's how bad the working conditions are at that particular place. People this that idiot you were trading comments with would happily turn the US into such a place as well. The average US wage has been on a downward slide for the last 3 decades or so. He's a know nothing. He can't even have a rational exchange.
@njanovic1980 Thanks for you acknowledging the facts njanovic. Yes I heard in on the news , I believe the companies name is Foxconn Technology Group. They are a Chinese company that has one million employees who work long hours under the most adverse conditions. They are usually young women who live in dorms, five to a room.
@louiethegreater Yes, Foxconn is correct. That guy you had the exchange with in a nutcase. Like any fanatic he can't have a rational exchange of ideas. You disagree & he goes nuts, yet accuses others of mental problems. I wish every one in the world well, but my first priority is the well being of my own country, as is the case w/ other people in their own countries as well. There's nothing wrong with some protectionism. Hell, China places a tariff on US goods imported into China.
@louiethegreater Just saw a report on the news tonight about Foxconn using child labor. Apparently that other guy you had the exchange with thinks a person's life is only worth as much or as little as their bank account. The high end of the Mac Pro desktop cost around $3,000. I wonder how much it actually cost them to make that? It's a shame and such a contridiction for me as I prefer Mac OS over Windows and work w/ a lot of graphics so Mac software is better for that...but.
@njanovic I believe most of the neo-liberals have sit in the classroom just long enough to have every morsel of common sense trained out of them. How could anyone actually believe that American workers should be placed in direct competition with third world labor. They actually believe that america should become third world. Their heroes are those who make money off money, they make nothing useful for society, their purpose is to gain more and more wealth for themselves. The Gorden Gekko types.
yeah. we used to have lots of hard workers coming into the US every year...until the unions started passing immigration laws. Anytime that a law gets passed you can bet that it's done to give someone a monopoly. The only reason prostitution is illegal is so the IRS can be the only ones to fuck people out of their money.
How about we stop outsourcing jobs altogether, or raise import taxes. Incase everyone doesnt notice, paying outside workers .30 an hour is unfair. And its a slap in the face to every american. Know why? Because they dont want to pay you what you deserve or earn. Theyd rather do it to someone outside the country who cant fight it for decent pay.
The American people can get their jobs back to America if they wake up and stop buying foreign products. How many American consumers even look on the products that they are buying to see where it was made. It is disloyal to buy a foreign made product when an American product can be bought. The American people forgot the pride of good workmanship and quality products "MADE IN AMERICA". The media and their billionaire owners made fashionable the treasonous "GLOBALIZATION" and "FREE MARKET" scams.
When the U.S realizes that israel is preparing for a attack on iran this spring, its no question they'll leave their dinner half eaten to save room for dessert.
Tarriffs? Brilliant idea there Adolf. So... dont build computers in overseas so that we can build them in the us. Except for that no one will be able to afford a computer anymore...which will create hundreds of jobs when we all go back to using filing cabinets. Then everyone will have a job ..of course, we will all have to go back to living like medieval serfs...
@sanitydotorg You are wrong, build all the computers overseas the multinational corporations can sell oversees. However when they want to ship them back to the U.S they should be met with a healthy 50% protective tariff.
Did you know that from the 1893 to 1967 the US. never had a merchandise trade deficit. Do you know that in the 1950s and 1960s all TV were made in the U.S., and furthermore eveyone owned one.
More good news for you, did you know that those T.Vs lasted for 20+ years.
You're mentally ill. You're nothing but a common terrorist who cant do things on a level playing field so you use violence to force others to comply. What you have is called and anti-social personality disorder. If you are in favor of imposing taxes on anyone for any purpose you are a thief and you should be dealt with accordingly.
@sanitydotorg Well, another chicken rooting for colonel sanders heard from. Not to mention a traitorous un-american globalist pig. You mean placing American Labor in direct competition with .50/hr third world labor is a level playing field, you mean forcing U.S labor to compete with controlled, populations in communist China where no worker protections of any kind are in place, is a level playing field. How about subsidized state run industries. You are a big mouth, dim witted moron.
So..the answer to communism in China is more communism in the US. Brilliant. Your intelligence like your morality, is first class.
Youre a real winner. No wonder no legitimate business wants to hire you. But if youre going to be a sociopath, why stop at half measures? Instead of just imposing tarriffs, how about the state just seizes control of everything? It's screamingly obvious that what you would really prefer to be doing is shoving people into ovens.
@sanitydotorg So you believe that investing in Communist China, giving them plenty of resources, to build infrastructure, military, and supply them with the latest state of the art production equipment, give them the research of our aeronautical and weapons industries is the answer to defeating communism.
For your information, ignorant the U.S. was always a protected economy, tariffs were always in place since Alexander Hamilton. You are just to morbidly stupid to know that, you are a chicken.
"So you believe that investing in Communist China,"
Uhhhh... What? No, I believe in free trade in between individuals free from government interference. Paying a worker in China for a product they produced is not giving money to the CCP. It's giving money to the worker. You think that it is giving money to the CCP because you are a SOCIOPATH and a SCHIZOPHRENIC who is too mindfucked to see that there is a difference between the individual and the state.
@sanit NO, giving money to a worker in China for a product they produce is destroying the economy of your own country you dingbat moron.
China tariffs U.S. products 25% we tariff theirs 2%.
Yes, ignorant taking jobs away from your own countrymen and sending them to China is giving wealth the the Communist Chines Government, you treasonous pig. Is it possible you could be that stupid. You didn't hear me subsistence wages is no different than subsistence farmers. You invest in a communist state.
"Yes, ignorant taking jobs away from your own countrymen and sending them to China is giving wealth the the Communist Chines Government,"
Youre schizophrenic. They are two separate things. So instead of of giving the money to the worker in China I should give the money to the worker in the US in order to give wealth to the Communist Amerikan Government. By the same logic, I suppose I am supporting the war in Libya every time I buy a donut a Krispy Kreme.
@sanitydotorg You mean you believe multinational corporations using .50/hr. labor and then shipping the product back across the pond is free trade. Hey, if you are such a believer in providing jobs in China instead of your own countrymen, why don't those multinationals sell the product in China. Those workers make products for export to the west instead of offering them for sale in Asia. Chinese workers are a controlled society they are subject to the worse treatment by the Communist Government.
"Chinese workers are a controlled society they are subject to the worse treatment by the Communist Government."
Yep. And the solution to that is to what? Impose tariffs? Funny...that didn't work with Cuba. In fact, restricting trade with Cuba has propped up the Communists.
@sanitydotorg That is exactly right, the Chinese peasant simply went from subsistence farmer to subsistence factory worker, the multinational corporations and Wall Street make the profits, off cheap labor.
You stupid traitor, concerning Cuba you should really learn the difference between isolationism and protectionism. You are apparently to stupid to know the difference. Isolation was forced on the Cuban people. Hey ignorant does China own our T-Bills our or do we own theirs.
@sanitydotorg Hey stupid one Hitler was a National Socialist , not a communist. You are the only communist here. You prefer to prop up a communist government by investing in it. The Chinese worker has no labor protections, and does not earn on cent more than they did as peasant farmers. Their economies were converted to cash economies so they could serve the communist state by working as subsistence factory workers. Lay down and go back to sleep, you are much to ignorant to understand that.
"Hey stupid one Hitler was a National Socialist , not a communist. "
Actually, anyone who supports the existence of any government is a communist. Communism and socialism are both synonymous for government, a.k.a. forcing people to do what you want via violence. Youre a communist, but I'm not. Im an anarchist. That's someone who believes in freedom as opposed to statism (aka communism).
@sanitydotorg Taxes is a form of communism, Wow do you make this stuff up as you go along. The most I can say for you is that you are morbidly stupid.
The Afghan war ending early is probably in preparation for a Syria or Iran action. I think they are feeling the pinch of resources, human, materielle and financial.
It's ok for chinese to make stuff for the chinese. But you could blockade the ports banning incoming finished goods and permitting incoming raw materials.You could deregister outsourcing companies from the stock market downgrade their credit scores ?
Americans are mostly lazy and dumb. People in other countries work harder and they're smarter and better educated. Just look at the spelling from the yanks here, and you can see what I mean. No wonder jobs are outsourced - they are looking for better employees than they can find in the USA.
Yep. Well done. People that post here are allergic to work. That pretty much sums it up. There are plenty of high-paying jobs in the U.S. in IT and the sciences, but the illiterate and hateful cock suckers who post their dumb ass opinions here want to make $40/hr for the same thing that a more moral chinese person will do for $0.40 rather than learn a skill that someone would actually pay money for voluntarily. It's extortion and terrorism pure and simple.
@MoscowMaestro Wow your a douche if i have ever met one. Classifying all of us together is the most ignorant stereotype that makes you as bad as the "lazy and dumb"
@Tmanda1 You're the douche you ignorant ugly yankee whore. Your SCUM country invades other countries using drone weapons and murders the civilian population - and you expect you'll be 'loved'? WE ALL FUCKING HATE YOU, DOUCHEBAG.
@MoscowMaestro Your such an idiot. Do you even know what a yankee is? Im from the south anyway. Do you see me sending my drones to the us? Nah I dont think so. Half of the american people hate or dislike our government too. Do you research or ask around. We dont expect to be loved, but we ARE not all the same. WE DO NOT ALL MURDER PEOPLE. And we sure as hell dont all pick fights. If you truly knew anything, you could dig and find that most people are sick of the war. What now?
@Tmanda1 Using my drones to send from the US*^ Suck it. I actually agreed to what russias leader even said about the us being a leech. And someone like you. You can stay in your home. You must be jealous. It has to be. Too afraid to walk outside because you dont even have control of your own country
@Tmanda1 A YANKEE is a piece of SHIT who lives in the UNITED SHITS OF AMERICA. YOU FUCKING MURDERED HALF A MILLION CIVILIANS IN IRAQ YOU DUMBFUCK WHORE. I hope someone beats you to a fucking pulp, because you really deserve it, WHORE.
@MoscowMaestro Yeah i totally did, And you know what? I get to wake up and walk outside, and i get to do my nails and dye my hair and not have to worry. I get a semi decent education, and I love people from ALL COUNTRIES, and all nations who even slightly attempt to reason back. How would you like if i spread lies about your country? Huh mabe i should go troll on it too. Go to hell.
@Tmanda1 SO ALL THAT BOTHERS A WHORE LIKE YOU IS THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR NAILS AND DYE YOUR FUCKIN' HAIR?? AND YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCKIN' *SHIT* THAT YOU'VE MURDERED HALF A MILLION PEOPLE IN IRAQ, YOU OBESE FUCKING WHORE???????
THAT"S NOT A LIE, SWEETHEART. THAT'S THE FUCKIN' TRUTH, YOU DUMB, ILLITERATE RETARDED GUTLESS FUCKING YANKEE WHORE
@MoscowMaestro People like you are who we kill gtfover it. Step on my land and in my country and say that shit to my face you will get pumped full of lead. :) Send my regards to your failing piece of shit friends too.
@Tmanda1 I WOULDN'T STEP ON YOUR WORTHLESS CUNT COUNTRY IF I WAS DROWING OFF ITS FUCKING COAST - I'D SOONER DIE THAN GO TO YOUR SHITVILLE ASSHOLE COUNTRY.
I SEE YOUR ONLY REACTION, LIKE A TYPICAL YANKEE FUCKTARD WHORE, IS TO THREATEN TO SHOOT ME. JUST LIKE YOU SHOT HALF A MILLION INNOCENT IRAQI CIVILIANS YOU FUCKTARD YANKEE WHORE
@MoscowMaestro You made the threats first so of course im going to respond with hostility. Our government kills people, not us.GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Ive already said we dont want to be at war, we dont like it, and yet your still on and on ab how we kill people. Its quite sad. I DID NOT SHOOT HALF A MILLION IRAQIS.im not the one on the frontline, im not the one giving orders. You dont listen. Your ignorance and failing to LISTEN or COMMUNICATE is whats going to cost you
@MoscowMaestro People like you who harass people who arent killing people, makes us hate you. So i suppose slamming airplanes in our towers and killing our people makes yall the good guys? Give it a rest already. You dont hit someone and expect us to just stand there and take it. I know MANY troops who had families left behind fighting for YOUR freedom as well as ours. And this is how you act? May we kill all like you
@Tmanda1 You must be really fucking dumb, right? I mean - did you graduate from school, or just flunk it all? You're aware that the USA murdered half a million civilians in Iraq, are you? Or did you put a bucket on your head? You know fuck all about my country so don't write your fucking shit about what your troops did for me, you ignorant whore. You did NOTHING for my freedom, FUCKING NOTHING.
Obama said the other day that there's going to be an American troop presence in Afghanistan deep into the future, in exactly the style of permanent bases housing US military that Obama left in Iraq. Why are they bringing the troops home from Afghanistan early? Get the troops discharged as I'm sure many are anxious, plus have the murderous psychos the war bred promoted and made shallow happy to be in the military, send them a bunch of agent hoes to convince them murder is great fun.
We should tax outsourcing of jobs, just like tax on importation of goods. Get rid of things like corprate tax, so corprations will do business in the US, and attract foreign corprations to the US.
Your country is religion > science. Some dark age shit are still creeping back, and evolution is still argued not by a better model but some lame ass faith/thought based ideals.
The chinese will give you 30,000 electrical engineering job, ask you and your citizen to hold a piece of silicon in your head and pray that it will becomes a chipset that is designed based on the concept of quantum mechanics.
Of course the obvious answer is, "They were never yours to bein with". This notion of "American" jobs has to stop... it's like the schoolkid going "you're in my seat"
There is no fix, The Corporations don't care about the U.S. So their puppets in D.C. don't care, The average American wants to fill their homes with tons of crap from China and put it on the card,pay 18% and pray they win the lotto when they max their cards out. The Corporations and Banks want to wipe out the middle class and still have the U.S. a super power, if there ever is change in this market it will have to come after the collapse of the U.S. Empire in 2020.
I think we're at a point where hoping big business is going to come back is just that. HOPING! The government has used our tax dollars to pay these guys not to produce here. And to eliminate competition they have instituted regulations and tax laws to make it near impossible for a person to start a small business with any hope of surviving without having a chain wrapped around their neck tied to the government or the banks.
it isn't corp. America that made America what it is..it was the small business owners , let's get ron paul in office and he'll get America back on track , all others are paid off by the corporates and us main stream media , and the Zionist ,
It's simple. Make the corporate tax the same as the percentage of workers overseas. If you have 50% of your workforce OS, the your tax would be 50%, if you have 5% of your workforce overseas, then your tax would be 5%.
Well, the troop redraw from Afghanistan can't be due to defense contractors not wanting the military to stay. The only reason I can find is a need for troops elsewhere, but where?
The problem with the whole society in America is that people hate each other, deep down inside. They just don't want the other person to be happy. So they actually try hard to make sure others don't get a job, ever. This of course need to be reconized first and then dealt with. I think most people still think the people are normal in America, since America's economy is so strong blah blah blah, to be honest, it is just the industries and manufacturing. Rest are 3rd world equivalent.
The US government could very easily create at least 3000 jobs per city district, so that is paroximately 3000* 600 = 1800000 jobs already. Call those guys city workers, let them go around street, cleaning up parks, garbages,wash dirty bus windows, clear dust in subway. Plant trees next to highways. Easy, and done! Pay them 3$ per hour. I am sure people would do it, as long as you let them do the job with friends and create better working condition. 3$ is a lot u know. In China, 3$ is huge buffet
Brilliant genius. And how will the government get the money to create all of those jackassed and wasteful make-work jobs? By sucking more money out of the productive private sector from people who actually do create things of value. If you want to improve the economy the government needs to go away. Making it bigger will only exacerbate the problems that they have already caused. If you really wanted to make the world a better place, you would be out shooting cops.
@sanitydotorg I was not talking about those wasteful jobs. I was in fact saying the opposite. I said meaningful 3$ per hour jobs. Cleaning up garbages, 3 tonne of it for 40$ I think is better than having no one cleaning them up. Those jobs already exist in China and these jobs do not "suck" from productive sectors. The reason these jobs don't exist in many countries is because of the overburden of job creation/payment procedures and forms. Jackassed jobs would be something else
Those are wasteful jobs. Everything the government does is wasteful. If they werent wastes of resources, the private sector would have done them already. If you want to create jobs, the key to doing that is to produce things that are of value and people are willing to pay for voluntarily. Not things that are financed at gunpoint. For every dollar the government spends, it destroys two dollars (see private product remaining).
@sanitydotorg Please do not disrupt my conversation with much more important individuals, and espeically individuals that acutally care about this topic. Do not waste my and others' time again.
I have repeatedly said it is productive work, as I have calculated it in my 180 page document. You are not reading it right.
It isn't productive work. If it was productive work, the government wouldn't be doing it. Production produces something. You can keep claiming that it will work, but all you are doing is spitting in the face of reality. The only thing you are proving is that you are a raving psychotic who knows nothing about economics.
I disagree with one of the viewer's point. Increasing tax on imports would work a bit, but not gonna happen. The products that America put tax on that get imported are designed by American companies, so those products are not completely foreign made. The American companies would be unhappy if government puts tax on their goods. Also, it is hard to put tax on certain type of goods such as electronic products, there are too many kinds. It is easy to put tax on barley, pulp, sugar, oil or aluminum
One reason outsourcing jobs hurt Americans is because there is barely enough jobs to be truthful. Most of the jobs, espeically those business degree jobs are actually more like "welfare" jobs given by the government. To stop outsourcing of jobs, the nation must shut down all interactions, both visible and invisible and black market with that country or exert heavy tax and have navy to patrol the water routes OR set the minimum wage of this country to 0.3 dollar per hour.
(CONTINUED).. birth to corporate expansion and undercutting of prices. Small local companies, some of them, quickly grew into national corporations that were focused on killing other businesses through violent undercutting of prices. Those corporations killed thosuands of businesses and therefore jobs,and replace those people with a machine so they could continue to expand and undercut.People can't just grow food and live anymore, they have to have currencies now,since food is even sold in that.
I will provide a bit of briefing I guess (out of my more than 180 pages analysis): The question How to stop outsourcing of jobs brings the question How did the jobs dissapear in the first place. In ancient times, and also in the medieval times, everyone had a job, there were rarily homeless people. If someone was homeless he was either blind or some adventuerer relaxing. People's jobs started dissapearing after the introduction of modern currency and factories. Those two things gave (CONTINUED)
I disagree with Sayeed, and also, I cannot fully say how to stop outsourcing jobs, as I have written over 180 pages of analysis on it and the content is reactive, meaning if exposed to the public, it will dilute it and create unwanted biproducts. If Russian officials would like to reach me privately, we could negotiate a deal. I have analyzed everything from currency systems, old Soviet ticket systems, buyer behaviour, properties of a bank, flow of cash, cash routes, job losses to corporations.
I have written over 180 pages on how to stop outsourcing of jobs in America and in other nations. And my basic basic conclusion is that it is impossible to stop with any new "plan" or modifications of the currency regulations/laws. Outsourcing of jobs can only be stopped with vast changes in the fundamental rules/regulations of not just the job system but the other stuff that ties along with it, such as, social security, secondary education, import/export, tax, banking system, loan system, etc..
I think students aren't getting decrees in subjects that make us competitive like engineering ! The number of american students taking these coarses has dropped .
My wife and i recently bought a new bedroom set, we went to 5 stores before finally at the 5th store they sold American made stuff and thats what we bought.
It doesnt seem like alot but if more people did this it would make a difference, there is still American made products out there, you just have to look for them. Stop endorsing "made in China" stuff by buying American Made whenever you can.
Someone...ANYONE...give Ms. Vicente a sandwich. I'll pay for it. Just send me the bill.
As far as outsourcing jobs...STOP STIFLING INGENUITY! Is it NOT patently clear, that ingenuity is stifled? ...that any opportunity to shed the dependence upon Oil and Combustion engines, ends in the death of the inventor?
That alternative energy sources are hindered by big business interests that have no desire to end their dependence upon the U$D? Seriously?
It would be cool if, like nutrition facts, there was information about labor cost percentage. Like how much was the labor cost of this $25 shirt? Was it $1? Also, if it said what percentage of that company was domestic labor and foreign labor. I don't know if it would help but it would be cool to know.
when they close plants to get cheap slave labor ..there is no such thing as free trade.. it is all rigged to destroy US industry / organized labor which is hated by the corporate wealthy elite...how dare workers demand a living wage and not be treated as slaves
Education is great for a good job. Turning out manufacturing - which is where the majority of jobs seem to have gone- does not require a genius. Only a good government plan to keep some of that work in the US
Regulations has the negative effect of the business environment.
ltmikepowell 2 weeks ago
Why does China have a 25% tariff on american made goods, but we have a 2% tariff on their goods?
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
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"Why does China have a 25% tariff on american made goods, but we have a 2% tariff on their goods?"
Why does the US have a 70% income tax when the Cayman Islands has an income tax of 0%? Why do you keep avoiding the point that ALL TAXES ARE STEALING AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM IS A THEIF? Oh that's right... because you're a sociopath and a schizophrenic who would rather avoid than accept reality.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
The logic of louiethegreater:
If individual A buys a consumer good from individual B then A is investing in C.
Not only is the purchase of a consumer good not an investment, party C has nothing to do with the transaction between A and B. Schizophrenia on stilts.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Hey ignorant traitorous pig, why doesn't the Chinese subsistence worker own those U.S T-Bills, instead of the Communist Chinese Government.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
Wow the schizophrenia gets even deeper. How do treasury notes have anything to do with it? That's parties C and D. I.e. The Chinese government (C) buys those from the US government (D). That has even less to do with A and B than your original raving whackjobbery. The more you talk, the more unstable you become.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Listen traitorous pig, and I will explain to you China's industrialization policy. Listen real close you ignorant pig, I will make it so simple that a 40 IQ like yourself can understand it. The Communist Chinese Government, having full control over their populous offered these peasants to multinational corporations as cheap labor. Not to help the peasant, but to encourage foreign investment. I will stop there- when you acknowledge that you understand that much, I will add more.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
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"The Communist Chinese Government, having full control over their populous offered these peasants to multinational corporations as cheap labor."
LOL. Yes. I'm sure individual choice has absolutely nothing to do with it. Do you have any points or coherent thoughts or are you just going to keep running around in contradictory circles?
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater coz the communist chinese government IS the Chinese subsistence worker.
AndroidGZS 2 weeks ago
@AndroidGZS The Communist Chinese government has total control over the Chinese worker. Workers have no rights, the unions in China are state controlled. The best example of the Chinese government is Tiananmen Square tin 1989. There is a well connected class in China that is making out like bandits by the influx of western capital. But the Chinese peasant is just as poor now as they ever were. The only change that took place was, they went form subsistence farmer to subsistence factory worker.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater but initially, the communist party was formed fromm subsistence farmers and peasants, and the remainders became factory workers.
AndroidGZS 2 weeks ago
@AndroidGZS Did you know that Protectionist Capitalism was the economic ideology that created the american middle class. Did you know that laissez-faire capitalism, and neo-liberalism is the political ideology that is destroying the american middle class. Did you know that the 400 ultra rich, in the U.S. owned more wealth than the bottom 50% of America.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater i knew something like that, but now that youve told me yes i do know.
AndroidGZS 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Hey traitorous pig, I take it that your 40 IQ has difficulty understanding my last post. Only stupid, stupid people would deny their own countrymen jobs, while happily encouraging investment in a communist economy. You are a sick puppy.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
Actually, I'm supporting free markets and voluntary association. You're the one who is supporting communism by wanting to enforce government controls on trade. Everything you say is completely contradictory. You're the socialist, not me. You might recognize that if you weren't a raving schizophrenic. And for the record, when a job moves to China, all it does is create higher paying jobs in the US. Look up Comparative Advantage some time jackass.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Actually you traitorous pig, you are supporting a brutal Communist Government, who exercises total control over their populous. You may call me a protectionist capitalist after the tradition of Alexander Hamilton if you do not mind. Concerning comparative advantage. Japan has no coal or iron ore, yet they manufacture more steel than the U.S. does. Even though their economy is much smaller than the U.S. The built the entire industry by state subsidy and large tariffs.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
"protectionist capitalist" is an oxymoron. The fact that you believe that there is such a thing is again a symptom of your schizophrenia, as oxymorons only exist in hallucinations. Capitalism is about freedom. Tarriffs are anti-freedom and jingoistic nationalistic fantasies. Goverment is the opposite of capitalism. There is no such thing as a capitalist country. You can either have capitalism or a country, but you cannot have both.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanit NO, NO moron traitorous pig, I am a protectionist capitalist, you are a laissez-faire capitalist who does not hold loyalties to any country. You world eagerly trade your american citizenship for a global one. You are saying Alexander Hamilton who passed the first tariff laws in 1789, thirteen years after he signed the constitution. Wow do you stay up nights dreaming this stuff up. Did you dream that Hamilton and Washington didn't want a country, WELL to be expected from a traitorous pig.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
Capitalism: Social system based on private property, freedom and voluntary exchange.
Protectionism: Social system based on terrorism and retarding voluntary exchange, in order to prevent competition so that some special interest group of incompetents can extract extortion prices at the expense of the general public. See also, patents, copyright, tariffs, etc.
You're schizophrenic. These two things are not compatible. They are polar opposites.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sani Hey, did you know that Apple computer via Steve Jobs created 200,000 to 250,000 jobs in China. However Apple only employed 47,000 in the U.S. All of them low paying jobs in retail or the service sector.
How do you figure that every job created in China creates one in the U.S. This is just another example of how dense and ignorant you are.
You should be aware that Protectionist Capitalism and union activity created the american middle class, and you are probably a product of that class.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
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@louiethegreater
Oh really? So I suppose that the Chinese are writing all of Apple software, doing the EE work, the marketing, the management, doing the QA testing, sales, etc.
If you lost your job to someone who didnt even speak English, you should fucking kill yourself. In any case, you and everyone else who support the existence of government ought to be put to death like the murderers that you are. Fuck off swine. It's obvious that you will never be a human being.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater Did you know that one of Apple's suppliers in China has had a few employees commit suicide at the work site by jumping from windows? That's how bad the working conditions are at that particular place. People this that idiot you were trading comments with would happily turn the US into such a place as well. The average US wage has been on a downward slide for the last 3 decades or so. He's a know nothing. He can't even have a rational exchange.
njanovic1980 1 week ago
@njanovic1980 Thanks for you acknowledging the facts njanovic. Yes I heard in on the news , I believe the companies name is Foxconn Technology Group. They are a Chinese company that has one million employees who work long hours under the most adverse conditions. They are usually young women who live in dorms, five to a room.
louiethegreater 1 week ago
@louiethegreater Yes, Foxconn is correct. That guy you had the exchange with in a nutcase. Like any fanatic he can't have a rational exchange of ideas. You disagree & he goes nuts, yet accuses others of mental problems. I wish every one in the world well, but my first priority is the well being of my own country, as is the case w/ other people in their own countries as well. There's nothing wrong with some protectionism. Hell, China places a tariff on US goods imported into China.
njanovic1980 1 week ago
@louiethegreater Just saw a report on the news tonight about Foxconn using child labor. Apparently that other guy you had the exchange with thinks a person's life is only worth as much or as little as their bank account. The high end of the Mac Pro desktop cost around $3,000. I wonder how much it actually cost them to make that? It's a shame and such a contridiction for me as I prefer Mac OS over Windows and work w/ a lot of graphics so Mac software is better for that...but.
njanovic1980 1 week ago
@njanovic I believe most of the neo-liberals have sit in the classroom just long enough to have every morsel of common sense trained out of them. How could anyone actually believe that American workers should be placed in direct competition with third world labor. They actually believe that america should become third world. Their heroes are those who make money off money, they make nothing useful for society, their purpose is to gain more and more wealth for themselves. The Gorden Gekko types.
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@louiethegreater In their twisted world view a person's life and worth as a human being is only as valuable as their bank account.
njanovic1980 1 week ago
they should import those cheap worker in the US and lower the minimum wage.
problem solve.
fuck im so smart
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yeah. we used to have lots of hard workers coming into the US every year...until the unions started passing immigration laws. Anytime that a law gets passed you can bet that it's done to give someone a monopoly. The only reason prostitution is illegal is so the IRS can be the only ones to fuck people out of their money.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
How about we stop outsourcing jobs altogether, or raise import taxes. Incase everyone doesnt notice, paying outside workers .30 an hour is unfair. And its a slap in the face to every american. Know why? Because they dont want to pay you what you deserve or earn. Theyd rather do it to someone outside the country who cant fight it for decent pay.
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
The American people can get their jobs back to America if they wake up and stop buying foreign products. How many American consumers even look on the products that they are buying to see where it was made. It is disloyal to buy a foreign made product when an American product can be bought. The American people forgot the pride of good workmanship and quality products "MADE IN AMERICA". The media and their billionaire owners made fashionable the treasonous "GLOBALIZATION" and "FREE MARKET" scams.
veniceit1 2 weeks ago
When the U.S realizes that israel is preparing for a attack on iran this spring, its no question they'll leave their dinner half eaten to save room for dessert.
progresIVOMind 3 weeks ago
TARIFFS, TARIFFS , TARIFFS
louiethegreater 3 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
Tarriffs? Brilliant idea there Adolf. So... dont build computers in overseas so that we can build them in the us. Except for that no one will be able to afford a computer anymore...which will create hundreds of jobs when we all go back to using filing cabinets. Then everyone will have a job ..of course, we will all have to go back to living like medieval serfs...
sanitydotorg 3 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg You are wrong, build all the computers overseas the multinational corporations can sell oversees. However when they want to ship them back to the U.S they should be met with a healthy 50% protective tariff.
Did you know that from the 1893 to 1967 the US. never had a merchandise trade deficit. Do you know that in the 1950s and 1960s all TV were made in the U.S., and furthermore eveyone owned one.
More good news for you, did you know that those T.Vs lasted for 20+ years.
louiethegreater 3 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
You're mentally ill. You're nothing but a common terrorist who cant do things on a level playing field so you use violence to force others to comply. What you have is called and anti-social personality disorder. If you are in favor of imposing taxes on anyone for any purpose you are a thief and you should be dealt with accordingly.
sanitydotorg 3 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Well, another chicken rooting for colonel sanders heard from. Not to mention a traitorous un-american globalist pig. You mean placing American Labor in direct competition with .50/hr third world labor is a level playing field, you mean forcing U.S labor to compete with controlled, populations in communist China where no worker protections of any kind are in place, is a level playing field. How about subsidized state run industries. You are a big mouth, dim witted moron.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
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sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
So..the answer to communism in China is more communism in the US. Brilliant. Your intelligence like your morality, is first class.
Youre a real winner. No wonder no legitimate business wants to hire you. But if youre going to be a sociopath, why stop at half measures? Instead of just imposing tarriffs, how about the state just seizes control of everything? It's screamingly obvious that what you would really prefer to be doing is shoving people into ovens.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg So you believe that investing in Communist China, giving them plenty of resources, to build infrastructure, military, and supply them with the latest state of the art production equipment, give them the research of our aeronautical and weapons industries is the answer to defeating communism.
For your information, ignorant the U.S. was always a protected economy, tariffs were always in place since Alexander Hamilton. You are just to morbidly stupid to know that, you are a chicken.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
"So you believe that investing in Communist China,"
Uhhhh... What? No, I believe in free trade in between individuals free from government interference. Paying a worker in China for a product they produced is not giving money to the CCP. It's giving money to the worker. You think that it is giving money to the CCP because you are a SOCIOPATH and a SCHIZOPHRENIC who is too mindfucked to see that there is a difference between the individual and the state.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanit NO, giving money to a worker in China for a product they produce is destroying the economy of your own country you dingbat moron.
China tariffs U.S. products 25% we tariff theirs 2%.
Yes, ignorant taking jobs away from your own countrymen and sending them to China is giving wealth the the Communist Chines Government, you treasonous pig. Is it possible you could be that stupid. You didn't hear me subsistence wages is no different than subsistence farmers. You invest in a communist state.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
"Yes, ignorant taking jobs away from your own countrymen and sending them to China is giving wealth the the Communist Chines Government,"
Youre schizophrenic. They are two separate things. So instead of of giving the money to the worker in China I should give the money to the worker in the US in order to give wealth to the Communist Amerikan Government. By the same logic, I suppose I am supporting the war in Libya every time I buy a donut a Krispy Kreme.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg You mean you believe multinational corporations using .50/hr. labor and then shipping the product back across the pond is free trade. Hey, if you are such a believer in providing jobs in China instead of your own countrymen, why don't those multinationals sell the product in China. Those workers make products for export to the west instead of offering them for sale in Asia. Chinese workers are a controlled society they are subject to the worse treatment by the Communist Government.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
"Chinese workers are a controlled society they are subject to the worse treatment by the Communist Government."
Yep. And the solution to that is to what? Impose tariffs? Funny...that didn't work with Cuba. In fact, restricting trade with Cuba has propped up the Communists.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg That is exactly right, the Chinese peasant simply went from subsistence farmer to subsistence factory worker, the multinational corporations and Wall Street make the profits, off cheap labor.
You stupid traitor, concerning Cuba you should really learn the difference between isolationism and protectionism. You are apparently to stupid to know the difference. Isolation was forced on the Cuban people. Hey ignorant does China own our T-Bills our or do we own theirs.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Hey ignorant does the Chinese peasant factory worker own American T-Bills or does the communist Chinese government own them.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Hey stupid one Hitler was a National Socialist , not a communist. You are the only communist here. You prefer to prop up a communist government by investing in it. The Chinese worker has no labor protections, and does not earn on cent more than they did as peasant farmers. Their economies were converted to cash economies so they could serve the communist state by working as subsistence factory workers. Lay down and go back to sleep, you are much to ignorant to understand that.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
"Hey stupid one Hitler was a National Socialist , not a communist. "
Actually, anyone who supports the existence of any government is a communist. Communism and socialism are both synonymous for government, a.k.a. forcing people to do what you want via violence. Youre a communist, but I'm not. Im an anarchist. That's someone who believes in freedom as opposed to statism (aka communism).
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
Tarriffs, like all taxation is a form of Communism. Communism is just another word for government.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Taxes is a form of communism, Wow do you make this stuff up as you go along. The most I can say for you is that you are morbidly stupid.
louiethegreater 2 weeks ago
@louiethegreater
Communism is just another word for government.
sanitydotorg 2 weeks ago
The Afghan war ending early is probably in preparation for a Syria or Iran action. I think they are feeling the pinch of resources, human, materielle and financial.
tenagliac 3 weeks ago
@tenagliac That wouldn't stop them. They would just cry "WE NEED MORE MILITARY SPENDING!"
lazyperfectionist1 3 weeks ago
It's ok for chinese to make stuff for the chinese. But you could blockade the ports banning incoming finished goods and permitting incoming raw materials.You could deregister outsourcing companies from the stock market downgrade their credit scores ?
tenagliac 3 weeks ago
Americans are mostly lazy and dumb. People in other countries work harder and they're smarter and better educated. Just look at the spelling from the yanks here, and you can see what I mean. No wonder jobs are outsourced - they are looking for better employees than they can find in the USA.
MoscowMaestro 3 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro
Yep. Well done. People that post here are allergic to work. That pretty much sums it up. There are plenty of high-paying jobs in the U.S. in IT and the sciences, but the illiterate and hateful cock suckers who post their dumb ass opinions here want to make $40/hr for the same thing that a more moral chinese person will do for $0.40 rather than learn a skill that someone would actually pay money for voluntarily. It's extortion and terrorism pure and simple.
sanitydotorg 3 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro Wow your a douche if i have ever met one. Classifying all of us together is the most ignorant stereotype that makes you as bad as the "lazy and dumb"
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 You're the douche you ignorant ugly yankee whore. Your SCUM country invades other countries using drone weapons and murders the civilian population - and you expect you'll be 'loved'? WE ALL FUCKING HATE YOU, DOUCHEBAG.
MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro Your such an idiot. Do you even know what a yankee is? Im from the south anyway. Do you see me sending my drones to the us? Nah I dont think so. Half of the american people hate or dislike our government too. Do you research or ask around. We dont expect to be loved, but we ARE not all the same. WE DO NOT ALL MURDER PEOPLE. And we sure as hell dont all pick fights. If you truly knew anything, you could dig and find that most people are sick of the war. What now?
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 Using my drones to send from the US*^ Suck it. I actually agreed to what russias leader even said about the us being a leech. And someone like you. You can stay in your home. You must be jealous. It has to be. Too afraid to walk outside because you dont even have control of your own country
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 A YANKEE is a piece of SHIT who lives in the UNITED SHITS OF AMERICA. YOU FUCKING MURDERED HALF A MILLION CIVILIANS IN IRAQ YOU DUMBFUCK WHORE. I hope someone beats you to a fucking pulp, because you really deserve it, WHORE.
MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro Yeah i totally did, And you know what? I get to wake up and walk outside, and i get to do my nails and dye my hair and not have to worry. I get a semi decent education, and I love people from ALL COUNTRIES, and all nations who even slightly attempt to reason back. How would you like if i spread lies about your country? Huh mabe i should go troll on it too. Go to hell.
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 SO ALL THAT BOTHERS A WHORE LIKE YOU IS THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR NAILS AND DYE YOUR FUCKIN' HAIR?? AND YOU DON'T GIVE A FUCKIN' *SHIT* THAT YOU'VE MURDERED HALF A MILLION PEOPLE IN IRAQ, YOU OBESE FUCKING WHORE???????
THAT"S NOT A LIE, SWEETHEART. THAT'S THE FUCKIN' TRUTH, YOU DUMB, ILLITERATE RETARDED GUTLESS FUCKING YANKEE WHORE
MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 DUMBFUCK, DUMBFUCK WHORE!!!
MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro People like you are who we kill gtfover it. Step on my land and in my country and say that shit to my face you will get pumped full of lead. :) Send my regards to your failing piece of shit friends too.
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 I WOULDN'T STEP ON YOUR WORTHLESS CUNT COUNTRY IF I WAS DROWING OFF ITS FUCKING COAST - I'D SOONER DIE THAN GO TO YOUR SHITVILLE ASSHOLE COUNTRY.
I SEE YOUR ONLY REACTION, LIKE A TYPICAL YANKEE FUCKTARD WHORE, IS TO THREATEN TO SHOOT ME. JUST LIKE YOU SHOT HALF A MILLION INNOCENT IRAQI CIVILIANS YOU FUCKTARD YANKEE WHORE
MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro .....Thank you for that wonderful and kind comment mate!
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MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro You made the threats first so of course im going to respond with hostility. Our government kills people, not us.GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Ive already said we dont want to be at war, we dont like it, and yet your still on and on ab how we kill people. Its quite sad. I DID NOT SHOOT HALF A MILLION IRAQIS.im not the one on the frontline, im not the one giving orders. You dont listen. Your ignorance and failing to LISTEN or COMMUNICATE is whats going to cost you
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@MoscowMaestro People like you who harass people who arent killing people, makes us hate you. So i suppose slamming airplanes in our towers and killing our people makes yall the good guys? Give it a rest already. You dont hit someone and expect us to just stand there and take it. I know MANY troops who had families left behind fighting for YOUR freedom as well as ours. And this is how you act? May we kill all like you
Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
@Tmanda1 You must be really fucking dumb, right? I mean - did you graduate from school, or just flunk it all? You're aware that the USA murdered half a million civilians in Iraq, are you? Or did you put a bucket on your head? You know fuck all about my country so don't write your fucking shit about what your troops did for me, you ignorant whore. You did NOTHING for my freedom, FUCKING NOTHING.
MoscowMaestro 2 weeks ago
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Tmanda1 2 weeks ago
Obama said the other day that there's going to be an American troop presence in Afghanistan deep into the future, in exactly the style of permanent bases housing US military that Obama left in Iraq. Why are they bringing the troops home from Afghanistan early? Get the troops discharged as I'm sure many are anxious, plus have the murderous psychos the war bred promoted and made shallow happy to be in the military, send them a bunch of agent hoes to convince them murder is great fun.
danielvincentkelley 3 weeks ago
We should tax outsourcing of jobs, just like tax on importation of goods. Get rid of things like corprate tax, so corprations will do business in the US, and attract foreign corprations to the US.
recordmanful 3 weeks ago
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Stevie68000 3 weeks ago
Your country is religion > science. Some dark age shit are still creeping back, and evolution is still argued not by a better model but some lame ass faith/thought based ideals.
The chinese will give you 30,000 electrical engineering job, ask you and your citizen to hold a piece of silicon in your head and pray that it will becomes a chipset that is designed based on the concept of quantum mechanics.
garytcw 3 weeks ago
Of course the obvious answer is, "They were never yours to bein with". This notion of "American" jobs has to stop... it's like the schoolkid going "you're in my seat"
LeClassics 3 weeks ago
There is no fix, The Corporations don't care about the U.S. So their puppets in D.C. don't care, The average American wants to fill their homes with tons of crap from China and put it on the card,pay 18% and pray they win the lotto when they max their cards out. The Corporations and Banks want to wipe out the middle class and still have the U.S. a super power, if there ever is change in this market it will have to come after the collapse of the U.S. Empire in 2020.
Autojones 3 weeks ago
I think we're at a point where hoping big business is going to come back is just that. HOPING! The government has used our tax dollars to pay these guys not to produce here. And to eliminate competition they have instituted regulations and tax laws to make it near impossible for a person to start a small business with any hope of surviving without having a chain wrapped around their neck tied to the government or the banks.
Erik22552 3 weeks ago
it isn't corp. America that made America what it is..it was the small business owners , let's get ron paul in office and he'll get America back on track , all others are paid off by the corporates and us main stream media , and the Zionist ,
RON PAUL 2012
DOCSAFETUBE 3 weeks ago
Nuke China, the third world and anywhere else where the standard of living/average salary is lower than America's, and no more outsourcing, yay!
LeClassics 3 weeks ago
It's simple. Make the corporate tax the same as the percentage of workers overseas. If you have 50% of your workforce OS, the your tax would be 50%, if you have 5% of your workforce overseas, then your tax would be 5%.
coffeebuzzz 3 weeks ago 2
Well, the troop redraw from Afghanistan can't be due to defense contractors not wanting the military to stay. The only reason I can find is a need for troops elsewhere, but where?
barba3gr 3 weeks ago
@barba3gr *cough* Iran *cough*
PeoplesGeneral 3 weeks ago
@PeoplesGeneral Understand completely. I had heard about an incident in the Philippines involving a drone(?), so I was leaving it open.
barba3gr 3 weeks ago
The problem with the whole society in America is that people hate each other, deep down inside. They just don't want the other person to be happy. So they actually try hard to make sure others don't get a job, ever. This of course need to be reconized first and then dealt with. I think most people still think the people are normal in America, since America's economy is so strong blah blah blah, to be honest, it is just the industries and manufacturing. Rest are 3rd world equivalent.
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
The US government could very easily create at least 3000 jobs per city district, so that is paroximately 3000* 600 = 1800000 jobs already. Call those guys city workers, let them go around street, cleaning up parks, garbages,wash dirty bus windows, clear dust in subway. Plant trees next to highways. Easy, and done! Pay them 3$ per hour. I am sure people would do it, as long as you let them do the job with friends and create better working condition. 3$ is a lot u know. In China, 3$ is huge buffet
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
@SpicyHam
Brilliant genius. And how will the government get the money to create all of those jackassed and wasteful make-work jobs? By sucking more money out of the productive private sector from people who actually do create things of value. If you want to improve the economy the government needs to go away. Making it bigger will only exacerbate the problems that they have already caused. If you really wanted to make the world a better place, you would be out shooting cops.
sanitydotorg 3 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg I was not talking about those wasteful jobs. I was in fact saying the opposite. I said meaningful 3$ per hour jobs. Cleaning up garbages, 3 tonne of it for 40$ I think is better than having no one cleaning them up. Those jobs already exist in China and these jobs do not "suck" from productive sectors. The reason these jobs don't exist in many countries is because of the overburden of job creation/payment procedures and forms. Jackassed jobs would be something else
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
Those are wasteful jobs. Everything the government does is wasteful. If they werent wastes of resources, the private sector would have done them already. If you want to create jobs, the key to doing that is to produce things that are of value and people are willing to pay for voluntarily. Not things that are financed at gunpoint. For every dollar the government spends, it destroys two dollars (see private product remaining).
sanitydotorg 3 weeks ago
@sanitydotorg Please do not disrupt my conversation with much more important individuals, and espeically individuals that acutally care about this topic. Do not waste my and others' time again.
I have repeatedly said it is productive work, as I have calculated it in my 180 page document. You are not reading it right.
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
@SpicyHam
It isn't productive work. If it was productive work, the government wouldn't be doing it. Production produces something. You can keep claiming that it will work, but all you are doing is spitting in the face of reality. The only thing you are proving is that you are a raving psychotic who knows nothing about economics.
sanitydotorg 3 weeks ago
I disagree with one of the viewer's point. Increasing tax on imports would work a bit, but not gonna happen. The products that America put tax on that get imported are designed by American companies, so those products are not completely foreign made. The American companies would be unhappy if government puts tax on their goods. Also, it is hard to put tax on certain type of goods such as electronic products, there are too many kinds. It is easy to put tax on barley, pulp, sugar, oil or aluminum
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
Alyona is a mix of Miley Cyrus and Eva Angelina , she just needs glasses
TheEricleeparker 3 weeks ago
One reason outsourcing jobs hurt Americans is because there is barely enough jobs to be truthful. Most of the jobs, espeically those business degree jobs are actually more like "welfare" jobs given by the government. To stop outsourcing of jobs, the nation must shut down all interactions, both visible and invisible and black market with that country or exert heavy tax and have navy to patrol the water routes OR set the minimum wage of this country to 0.3 dollar per hour.
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
Question of the day? If you could rape Alyona's beautiful butthole and get away with it. Would you do it ?
TheEricleeparker 3 weeks ago
(CONTINUED).. birth to corporate expansion and undercutting of prices. Small local companies, some of them, quickly grew into national corporations that were focused on killing other businesses through violent undercutting of prices. Those corporations killed thosuands of businesses and therefore jobs,and replace those people with a machine so they could continue to expand and undercut.People can't just grow food and live anymore, they have to have currencies now,since food is even sold in that.
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
I will provide a bit of briefing I guess (out of my more than 180 pages analysis): The question How to stop outsourcing of jobs brings the question How did the jobs dissapear in the first place. In ancient times, and also in the medieval times, everyone had a job, there were rarily homeless people. If someone was homeless he was either blind or some adventuerer relaxing. People's jobs started dissapearing after the introduction of modern currency and factories. Those two things gave (CONTINUED)
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
I disagree with Sayeed, and also, I cannot fully say how to stop outsourcing jobs, as I have written over 180 pages of analysis on it and the content is reactive, meaning if exposed to the public, it will dilute it and create unwanted biproducts. If Russian officials would like to reach me privately, we could negotiate a deal. I have analyzed everything from currency systems, old Soviet ticket systems, buyer behaviour, properties of a bank, flow of cash, cash routes, job losses to corporations.
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
I have written over 180 pages on how to stop outsourcing of jobs in America and in other nations. And my basic basic conclusion is that it is impossible to stop with any new "plan" or modifications of the currency regulations/laws. Outsourcing of jobs can only be stopped with vast changes in the fundamental rules/regulations of not just the job system but the other stuff that ties along with it, such as, social security, secondary education, import/export, tax, banking system, loan system, etc..
SpicyHam 3 weeks ago
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I think students aren't getting decrees in subjects that make us competitive like engineering ! The number of american students taking these coarses has dropped .
420gma 3 weeks ago
My wife and i recently bought a new bedroom set, we went to 5 stores before finally at the 5th store they sold American made stuff and thats what we bought.
It doesnt seem like alot but if more people did this it would make a difference, there is still American made products out there, you just have to look for them. Stop endorsing "made in China" stuff by buying American Made whenever you can.
Pissedoffpeasant 3 weeks ago
Someone...ANYONE...give Ms. Vicente a sandwich. I'll pay for it. Just send me the bill.
As far as outsourcing jobs...STOP STIFLING INGENUITY! Is it NOT patently clear, that ingenuity is stifled? ...that any opportunity to shed the dependence upon Oil and Combustion engines, ends in the death of the inventor?
That alternative energy sources are hindered by big business interests that have no desire to end their dependence upon the U$D? Seriously?
I guess I expect too much from RT.
Frequencitee 3 weeks ago
It would be cool if, like nutrition facts, there was information about labor cost percentage. Like how much was the labor cost of this $25 shirt? Was it $1? Also, if it said what percentage of that company was domestic labor and foreign labor. I don't know if it would help but it would be cool to know.
twistfinger 3 weeks ago
when they close plants to get cheap slave labor ..there is no such thing as free trade.. it is all rigged to destroy US industry / organized labor which is hated by the corporate wealthy elite...how dare workers demand a living wage and not be treated as slaves
xadam2dudex 3 weeks ago
Education is great for a good job. Turning out manufacturing - which is where the majority of jobs seem to have gone- does not require a genius. Only a good government plan to keep some of that work in the US
donbase1 3 weeks ago