bullshit things to know...dude get a better lesson than that "principles"...even kids knows what the position will its just they dont know how to control the cue ball yet...but once u know how to control the cue ball "the speed" "draw, stop & follow up...u dont need no principles like that...its better to learn how to control the cue ball and pocketing than that principles....
when playing pool why pot the balls further from the black at first and leave the balls near the black last to pot i think its good idea but what if you need to do cannons how can i juge postion then can you help me
@gateopenope Im assuming youre playing 8 ball. That's generally a good idea but sometimes it's harder to hit the balls in the order you want. Learning how to play position and taking what the table gives you will be the most effective way in the long run. If it's easier to hit balls closer to the 8 first, get the further ones later and then play position back to the 8, that's probably the best way. It may be harder to hit the further balls first but it is ideal.
you didnt say how you would hit the cue ball to position the cue ball in the wedges, you just said that you would make the cue ball land in the wedges. we know that ideally you want the cue ball to land in that area, what we don't know is how to make the cue ball land in that area...
That is going to greatly depend from shot to shot. Ideally you would leave yourself with an angle which would allow you to use a center ball strike on the cue ball. If you're interested, forcefollow has a good video on tangent lines just do a search for "forcefollow tangent lines" and also check out "FargoBilliards cue ball control"
Also, big thanks to forcefollow for all the informative videos.
yea your right it takes lots of practice. But I do think these vids help even without practice because that is going to be one less cue ball that somebody or something getting hit. some people just cant help themselves jade and if you have to play 10 hours a day to get good then you would hate the fact i could run you with one hand.
you could practice for 18 hours a day for 10 years, but if you do not know the principles behind what you are trying to do, you can get smoked by someone who does know the principles and practices half as much
dude..ok your videos are good, but you really need to reduce unnecessary talking. its very distracting. Just say what you are doing, and do it. thats all people need.
I agree has a flat voice needs to do a few takes an edit. BUT everything he said is true. 3 stages of learning 1 learn how to sink. 2 learn how to set the next shot up. 3 tactics ........ practice practice PRACTICE.. if you enjoy the game its fun. set em up 2 bucks a lesion.
Forcefollow, I respect your videos and appreciate all that you do for beginners and honestly there isn't much to critique other than your transition from the 5 to the 7. You said you would just leave it "somewhere on the wedge" but I think you might want to instruct people to leave it on the upper half of the wedge to make the transition from the 7 to the 9 easier. Nevertheless, great video!
From the 3 to the 4 ball. Even draw is going to cross the center line of the position zone, the real underlying idea is that the line you take from one ball to another maximises your margin of error and obviously the line which has maximal distance is often the prefered option but is not all you take into account. For example - speed control with follow will always be more accurate than draw so even if you have 'more line' in the position zone with draw, it might be easier to play with follow.
At about 5:40 into the video you talk about drawing the ball into the position zone rather than stunning into it. This stunning into the zone is called crossing the line to position. The rule is never cross the line when you can run up the line. When you run up the line the cue ball stays in the position zone much longer in its travel than when crossing the line. Just my $.02 Renard
That's interesting. I noticed pros doing this a couple years back and saw the strength of it but haven't heard anyone talk about it or give it a name. I've been working on playing position this way when possible and have been talking to my teammates about it as well.
These Zones are explained very well on Volume 10 of the Billiard Sanctuary Finer Points DVD's. Highly Recommend taking a look at them for a very detailed explanation of this. Keep up the Great Video Instruction here on ebay.
This will help me alot.. ive always tried to look 2 balls ahead and it works decent for me but the way you explain the zones will hopefully give me a drill to work on. thanx again
EXCELLENT DEMONSTRATION. tHANX.
FarmaNap 2 months ago
Very good video for starting discussion. Looking forward to your "principles of cat skinning."
kashifize 4 months ago
bullshit things to know...dude get a better lesson than that "principles"...even kids knows what the position will its just they dont know how to control the cue ball yet...but once u know how to control the cue ball "the speed" "draw, stop & follow up...u dont need no principles like that...its better to learn how to control the cue ball and pocketing than that principles....
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frogkitten123 1 year ago
ur table looks so small maybe caz its overhead
MRCALIfornyay 1 year ago
este grindo imbecil mas de lo ke habla ... gringo idiotaa
elkemolider 1 year ago
@elkemolider Very nice.
interloperftv 6 months ago
Good advice.
donutedvd 1 year ago
when playing pool why pot the balls further from the black at first and leave the balls near the black last to pot i think its good idea but what if you need to do cannons how can i juge postion then can you help me
gateopenope 2 years ago
@gateopenope Im assuming youre playing 8 ball. That's generally a good idea but sometimes it's harder to hit the balls in the order you want. Learning how to play position and taking what the table gives you will be the most effective way in the long run. If it's easier to hit balls closer to the 8 first, get the further ones later and then play position back to the 8, that's probably the best way. It may be harder to hit the further balls first but it is ideal.
ProdigyKimXP 1 year ago
goodvideo
runoutman 2 years ago
you didnt say how you would hit the cue ball to position the cue ball in the wedges, you just said that you would make the cue ball land in the wedges. we know that ideally you want the cue ball to land in that area, what we don't know is how to make the cue ball land in that area...
tong2thong 2 years ago 9
this is at the end of your video. nevertheless, good video.
tong2thong 2 years ago
Get a good understanding of deflection and spin. Then you will be able to place that ball where you want to.
Sh0nuff71 1 year ago
@tong2thong
That is going to greatly depend from shot to shot. Ideally you would leave yourself with an angle which would allow you to use a center ball strike on the cue ball. If you're interested, forcefollow has a good video on tangent lines just do a search for "forcefollow tangent lines" and also check out "FargoBilliards cue ball control"
Also, big thanks to forcefollow for all the informative videos.
Best of luck!
BegleySteve 10 months ago
thanks for the vid very helpful.
wadecix 2 years ago
Great video. The only thing is I would like to see demonstrations of you preforming the shots. But other then that loved the video.
bryced32 2 years ago 2
Do u think that reading books is better than actually visualizing a video or dvd?
Beanerballer21 2 years ago
yeah beaner books have way more info than videos
runoutman 2 years ago
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i dont think he could have made one of those shots. what a geek!
markarney 2 years ago
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can this guy evon play pool
mayortonyhall 3 years ago
Yeah. He's hell of good.
bobbico03 3 years ago 4
this stuff really means nothing.
why i say that?
cause you need to practice 10 hours aday for years to get good at pool..
anyone thinking they become better by watching tips is fooling themselves.
you still need to be able to do it
that takes practice.
LOTS
JadeTomZ 3 years ago
I actually watch some pool vids if I do not have time to warm up. Imitation works wonders kid.
201392197 2 years ago
yea your right it takes lots of practice. But I do think these vids help even without practice because that is going to be one less cue ball that somebody or something getting hit. some people just cant help themselves jade and if you have to play 10 hours a day to get good then you would hate the fact i could run you with one hand.
que1910 2 years ago
you could practice for 18 hours a day for 10 years, but if you do not know the principles behind what you are trying to do, you can get smoked by someone who does know the principles and practices half as much
paroxysm419 2 years ago 6
an angle for an angle :)
Never end up with a straight shot.
MacManLtd 3 years ago
dude..ok your videos are good, but you really need to reduce unnecessary talking. its very distracting. Just say what you are doing, and do it. thats all people need.
deepesh911 3 years ago
I agree has a flat voice needs to do a few takes an edit. BUT everything he said is true. 3 stages of learning 1 learn how to sink. 2 learn how to set the next shot up. 3 tactics ........ practice practice PRACTICE.. if you enjoy the game its fun. set em up 2 bucks a lesion.
kirkowoop 2 years ago
nice video first one i see from you nice man gonna keep watching
mmx327 3 years ago
the mess in your your taking my focus away of the table :-)tell the bambino to clean :-) very good video dude.
BartjeOstend 3 years ago
stewsere
Ermeneutico1 3 years ago
Forcefollow, I respect your videos and appreciate all that you do for beginners and honestly there isn't much to critique other than your transition from the 5 to the 7. You said you would just leave it "somewhere on the wedge" but I think you might want to instruct people to leave it on the upper half of the wedge to make the transition from the 7 to the 9 easier. Nevertheless, great video!
JLack84 3 years ago
From the 3 to the 4 ball. Even draw is going to cross the center line of the position zone, the real underlying idea is that the line you take from one ball to another maximises your margin of error and obviously the line which has maximal distance is often the prefered option but is not all you take into account. For example - speed control with follow will always be more accurate than draw so even if you have 'more line' in the position zone with draw, it might be easier to play with follow.
mtb2004uk 3 years ago
Very nice explanation of where to leave the cue ball. Thanks for taking the time to post this informative video.
HoeleeSmoke 3 years ago
Thank u so much 4 ur videos! They are really helpful! I'm trying to use ur tips to learn how 2 get really good! Plez make more! Thanks! (^_^)
teenytainytz 3 years ago
i like how you leave your hand in the picture, moving it while you speak. it really explains alot more.
dupeddavid 3 years ago
At about 5:40 into the video you talk about drawing the ball into the position zone rather than stunning into it. This stunning into the zone is called crossing the line to position. The rule is never cross the line when you can run up the line. When you run up the line the cue ball stays in the position zone much longer in its travel than when crossing the line. Just my $.02 Renard
renard24 4 years ago
That's interesting. I noticed pros doing this a couple years back and saw the strength of it but haven't heard anyone talk about it or give it a name. I've been working on playing position this way when possible and have been talking to my teammates about it as well.
CrankyxPants 4 years ago
These Zones are explained very well on Volume 10 of the Billiard Sanctuary Finer Points DVD's. Highly Recommend taking a look at them for a very detailed explanation of this. Keep up the Great Video Instruction here on ebay.
StanShuffett 4 years ago
MAan, you need to clean up your basement...j/k. Thanks for the vid!
wikkidthoughts 4 years ago
can u beat the "magician" using this principle.
corkdots 5 years ago 2
That would be a quick "no." But this is some of the things that are a part of his game.
forcefollow 5 years ago
It seems obvious, but infact this makes it really clear!
DiFontaine365 5 years ago
This will help me alot.. ive always tried to look 2 balls ahead and it works decent for me but the way you explain the zones will hopefully give me a drill to work on. thanx again
rotinknee2 5 years ago