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  • CarbonMods - best Carbonproducts ever!

  • How long do these molds last actually ? How many times can i re-use them?

    I'm planning on ordering these products probably , together with the infusion-starterkit .

    Lovely products and kits you guys offer, especially for 'beginners' like me ...

    Would be nice to know if these molds are rigid enough to last for some time .

  • thanks for sharing your knowlege..where can i buy large amounts of mold putty or can i make my own?

  • How much is this?

    I live in Taiwan. Can I buy this products?

  • Can i make a hood for a volvo 740? And how?

  • I was wanting to do a dash insert in my 96 supra. My question is how would I make this work and have the clips made from the fibre? I don't want a "shell" that goes over the original. Thanks.

  • @Takeoverartist1987 : Generally you wouldn't make the clips from carbon fibre, you woule part from carbon fibre (by making a mould and then the part itself, like in this and our laminating video) and then you would bond clips onto the back of the part using adhesive. Often the clips can be made from aluminium angle or folded aluminium sheet to be whatever shape you need them.

  • @carbonmods Can i use t-cut wax to polish it or do i hve to buy a special wax?

  • @kassop : You can use T-Cut to polish - it's pretty fine (it's designed for soft paint not hard plastic) so progress won't be too fast but it will make some progress into the job.

  • @carbonmods Thanks mate

  • If I mold the backplate of an iPod touch and then out carbon fiber around side the mold, will it be the right size to fit around the iPod as a case??

  • @TheMowingking: No, if you take a mould straight off your iPod then the inside of the mould (which will be out outside of your part) will be the same size as the outside of your iPod meaning that the inside will be smaller (by the thickness of the material). What you need to do is apply 'sheet wax' to your iPod (you can get 1mm sheetwax for example) and then take your mould off that (the iPod plus wax). That way, the case will be 1mm bigger than the iPod so that it will fit over it.

  • I'd like to make a faring for a motorcycle. would it be more appropriate to construct a frame instead of a mould?

  • @antiBomeR : I don't know what you mean by a frame, therefore, I guess not. Pretty much any panel or part you want to make out of a composite material starts off with a mould. You would use the original fairings as a pattern (like we do in this video) and then make the new fairings using those moulds. You may choose to stiffen the moulds using wooden battons or similar (though probably not neccessary) but you would still start off making moulds, just like we do here.

  • wow man, I see why this is so expensive now! very nice work friend

  • I've Used Parafin Wax and plaster of Paris or papier mache as a cheap Alternative.

  • Could you use a saddle from a bike as a mould?

  • @WagnerPictures : Well, when you take an original part (like a bike saddle) then that's a pattern, not a mould. A mould is the negative version of the part, the saddle itself is the original part, not a mould. You could mould a mould of a saddle using the technique shown in this video (i.e. use the saddle as a pattern) but you couldn't use the saddle itself *as* a mould.

  • @carbonmods Oh, okay, i will try it out, thanks for the reply!

  • can i use vaseline ? don't like that you are using the term "wax"

  • @stene12345 : No, you can't use vaseline as mould release wax, you should use a dedeicated mould release wax otherwise you're very likely to have some kind of problem with the part sticking in the mould. The term 'wax' is correct and is the time honoured name for wax based mould release (such as Honeywax or Meguire's #8).

  • is there a vid showing this part been made in carbon??

  • @ricspeed1971 : No, not this exact part but one not so dissimilar in size and complexity.

  • What words of advice would you have for me doing my door panel? The ones i have are leather- now I don't care about ruining them as they are old but i wonder if i will run into problems with the mold sticking? does the object being molded have to be nice and smooth (plastic) or would a leather door panel be do-able?

  • @emartin8907 : Leather is quite a porous material and will be especially porous around seams and stitching which are likely to present quite a problem when it comes to release the mould. I would recommend smoothing over and filling any seams, holes or stitches with some polyester bodyfiller, sanding smooth and then spraying the whole panel in a heavy coat of filler primer (maybe a few layers) which you could then flat and polish before release coating and making the mould.

  • How should i go about wrapping something in carbon fiber rather then making a mold for it.(Im thinking of wrapping a zippo lighter)

  • How do you make a mold for a bigger part. Like a car door, or a car hood?

  • @xzu : Well, in theory this exact process would be fine, although it would be quite expensive. We know of one sportscar company that made a full set of car moulds using this exact material. If it was us, we would make a large mould using a vinylester gelcoat (vinylester is compatible with the epoxy you'll use to make the part itself) reinforced with polyester resin glass tissue then chopped strand mat however you do need to know what you're doing to make a good job of it, unlike the putty system

  • You see the mould after, how strong would it be, as im looking to build a costume and the mould seems hard enough, how long does it last and does it deteriate after time or does it stay solid?

  • @g6mediaie : The mould is solid and will stay that way indefinately so you could use it to make parts for years. I'm assuming that for your costume you will make a mould and then make parts using the mould - you would't want to use the mould *as* part of the costume (i.e. the finished part); making the mould is part fo the process, not the end result.

  • Thank you for very informative and helpful video.

    But i have one little concern.

    if i make a carbon fiber part myself, how do i then attach it to to car, i mean how do i reproduce or something those little details that help us attach the part to the car.

  • @gon6ik001 : This is the thing we get asked the most often. There isn't one asnwer, it's a case of looking at the clips or mounting points and working out how you can make something of your own that will function in the same way. At Carbon Mods we often us pieces of carbon fibre angle bonded on to the inside, BigHead fasteners (again, bonded onto the inside) or we see if we can buy the parts fo rthe original fixings. In all cases, it's always something that's bonded on afterwards.

  • Where did buy the fiber carbon??

  • @siickgil18 : We actually sell carbon fibre and ship it all over the world so if you're after the carbon fabric then you can either use your normal supplier (providing their quality is right) or get in touch with us. Like I say, we ship worldwide and carbon fabric is always in stock. For even more supplies try easycomposites.co.uk which is our advanced materials division.

  • Can this be used to make a mold of ones foot for light weight shoes?

  • @PD19954 : Light-weight shoes: yes, your own foot: not directly. If you want to make a mould of your own foot you would need to use something that's skin safe and faster curing than this, or none-curing like plasticine, and then make maybe a plaster cast from that mould (so now you have a plaster version of your foot) and now you can use this system to make an epoxy mould.

  • that link is dead!

    

  • where do you find a big piece of plastic for the base board like the one in the video?

  • Could you use this for something as large as a Dodge Challenger hood.....maybe a crazy question I'm not sure...

  • I'm planning to make a carbon fiber motorcycle chain guard..how do I cover all the empty spaces on the side of the part?

  • Can i do This with my foot for boots?

  • wouldn't it be better to have a brider border, so when you infuse the epoxy you can tape the vacuum bag on the border? Since two days I try to figur out how you use this mold for a infusion. would be nice, if you could answer that question. thank you

  • Hello , i want to make a mould for rc chassis , would that be possible?

    and what would roughly be the cost of the process , making the mould and the CF piece?

    thanks

  • What Sort Of Material Could Be Used To Make A Mould For Larger Objects.

  • Would something like this work for making bullet-proof armor?

  • @kittykawaiix3tr Carbon fiber would make excellent armor... problem is most politicians have stock in current armor/ weapons companies. So if they were to approve carbon fiber or any other armor for that matter they would loose their money, seems like conflict of interest to me but if your a politician you make the rules.

  • Great vid man!! Just wondering, but how would u do this kind of thing for a longboard?? Would u just put the carbon fibre on to the board itself or put it in a mold??

  • would this work to make a carbon fiber engine bay for my car?

  • An informative video, thanks. We are interested in making moulds from some plastic parts so that we can make some carbon fiber parts from them. The parts form leg armour and are basically half a cylinder in shape and have 4 small holes (4.7X5.7 mm and 6.7X14.4 mm) in them on either side for the fasteners to go through. How can we do this to get a precise and smooth shape?

  • is it possible to make a 2x4' mold

  • could this be used to make a mold of a jet ski hull

  • @909tbrown : Yes, definately but for large projects the difference in cost between the putty system and normal fibreglass would make it an expensive way to go. A jet-ski hull might be large but it's a relatively simple shape and I think I would suggest using a more conventional mould making system that's compatible with epoxy resin. Get in touch with us directly if you'd like more info on this - I can't fit it all in the comments box!

  • Instead of pulling mould of baseboard  why not twist the board slightly and mould will basically release itself

  • @bhelpurii : No reason; feel free to release it any way that works for you. In the case of this part it wouldn't have released itself (pretty much parallel sides on the part) but other parts will release a lot more easilly.

  • I've just started looking into carbon fibre molding because I want to make a Formula One steering wheel for my computer, I was just wondering, how many time could you use one of these molds over? Can you use them over and over relentlessly? Or just a few times before they start to show wear?

  • @acid4444 : We use moulds made in this way in our workshop and providing they arn't broken in an accident we would expect to get about 20-30 'pulls' from a mould before it would need a bit of a polish up. A once over with some polishing compound and new coat of release agent and it should be fully restored. The only thing that will knock a mould out of service is damage caused trying to remove a part that's stuck because of a release problem.

  • @carbonmods - Cool, thanks a lot for the reply, in the next couple months or so I'll probably be getting a couple kits from the site :)

  • Lets just say i wanted to make a mold for Game controller " PS3 or Xbox 360 " how would i go about doing that? do you have a few tips before i purchase this kit ? i want to make a carbon fiber controller

  • @groundhabit : Ok, well, a game controller is a fidly shape to make. You'd need to make it in two halves (which is fine because the plastic moulding is already two halves). You'd blank off all the button holes so that it's a solid shape and then follow the steps in this video. When you make the actual parts by laying carbon fibre and resin into the mould the tricky part will be reproducing all the clips on the inside which you'll have to make out of bits of metal or plastic bracket bonded in.

  • What type of clay do you use (air drying)? Do you allow the clay to dry at all?

    I had difficulty with the clay drying and pulling away from the part and causing an issue.

  • @MrPikeRider : The 'clay' is epoxy putty. It's very special stuff and is designed to work with the epoxy gel-coat. I'm not sure if you're using our kit or not but if you're not then a normal air drying clay is very different and won't work. If you're using our kit and had this problem then the only explaination is that you let the gel-coat cure too far. You need to add the putty whilst the gel coat is still 'tacky'. This detail is very important and will ensure a solid bond between the two.

  • how much better is carbon fiber that fiber glass?

  • @kallevigabc12 : Carbon fibres are 30%-50% stronger than the best glass fibres and so you can gave 30-50% less of them for the same strength, meaning a part that's 30-50% lighter. On top of that with fibreglass people normally use Polyester resin. With carbon (and included in all our kits) it's epoxy resin which is a lot stronger than polyester. This combines to make a much stronger composite. After that additional advantages can come from the laminating process (resin infusion, pre-preg etc).

  • Is the techno music really necessary? Since we're from different parts of the world your English is already hard for me to understand. Otherwise, great video, and thank you.

  • @kendigjl : Our new videos don't use any music but there's not a lot I can do about the old ones, sorry. Maybe when we get chance we'll remake the videos from scratch without the annoying music, bad sound and bad lighting!

  • @carbonmods Love the music but i found the video really helpful, thanks.

  • Hi Can you make a video for the manufacturing of complex parts of carbon for example steering wheel. From create the matrix, prior to installation of the car. Sorry, my English is bad

  • If part of the product i want to use to create my mould is flat, do i still have to apply modeling clay around the edges?

  • @kassop : You don't have to although you might find it useful to add flanges around the edges at 90 degrees. These help to make the mould stiffer and less likely to distort.

  • hi.what would be the best way to make a mould of something that is made from foam? i will then use carbon fiber to make my object, but ive made it first from foam.

    thanks

  • @antoinehad : Hi, the process most people use is to get the foam to the right shape and then coat it in a very thin layer of epoxy resin and light woven glass (like a 160gsm glass fabric). When this cures you can smooth and sand it to get a nice finish. For the the ultimate finish in the workshop we would then spray it with polyurethane paint and then smooth and polish that, although this step could be skipped. After that you're ready to follow the tips in this video.

  • I was wondering could you use CF for a substitute for Vinyl on a top of a car and then Clear coat it???? or something along that lines .....just thought that would match my 3 inch CF cowl hood......any feedback would be nice.....and to clarify this would be a CF vinyl top or a CFV top.....lol.....but I am being serious let me know

  • great video...

    i want to make an engine cover but has a lot of clips on it....

    how should i make a mold for that?

    thank you

  • hi.i want to make a mold from foam for use later to make a carbon fiber product.i was watching the video and in it you wax the plastic, but as my object is make from foam how do i go about doing that? do you have any recommendations or products that can help me make a mold of a foam object that i can use to make carbon fiber products? i have small details in the foam as well.i am actually making a f1 steering wheel in2pieces, front and back if that helps. thanks for your time in advance.

  • Hi. i have object that i want to make into carbon fiber and it is really detailed and has to be exact, therefore i am making it out of foam first then going to make a mold from that. How do i do that? because in your video you wax the plastic, and i cant do that to foam so how would i go about making a mold that i can later use for carbon fiber? do you have any products for that as well? thanks in advance.

  • Am I the only one that can barely understand this guy?

  • i wanna try this on rc helicopter blades but how? how do i do the mold for blades?

  • @Azer831 You would probably be better off not making a mould, but buying a sheet of 2m-3m carbon fiber, cutting out the size - and then sanding it down to get the trim of the blades correct, and finally clearcoating it to seal it from weather.

  • @Azer831 Helecopter blades are so thin (and actually are normally made out of unidirection carbon) that they're not so suitable for making yourself in this way. If you really want to make your own blades then like Azer831 says you'd be better off starting with some unidirectional carbon fibre bar and then shaping them by hand.

  • do you need to vaccum bag this to get good results?

  • @mchugh69: Well, the part we make in the video is absolutely fine without vacuum bagging or any equipment, we just made it exactly as you see. Larger parts or very complicated parts sometimes require a more sophisticated process (like vacuum bagging, resin infusion, matched moulding or even pre-preg) but there's a lot you can make just using open layup so it's a great place to start.

  • If there are small holes in the part, do you stuff them with plasticine?

  • @HPISavageXSS46 : Yes, definately, this stops the Tooling Gelcoat from running into the holes and makes the finished mould a simpler shape to get a release from.

  • would it be possible to make a mold of a blackberry housing to make it carbon fiber?

  • @thugtasticmatty : Yes, certainly. This mould making process is particularly suited to smaller, more fiddly parts. You could mould a blackberry, iPad, iPhone... The process is just the same as you see here, just on a smaller scale.

  • @thugtasticmatty i'd like to make a mold for my iphone to eventually make a carbon fiber iphone case but i don't want to get any chemicals or residue on my iphone. what would be the best way to make a mold, but in a way that wont damage my iphone?

  • @snowboardfreak572 : You could actually carefully wrap the phone in something like clingfilm (food wrap) and then apply the PVA to that. Test that the alcohol in the PVA won't react with the food wrap on a sample first but if it works then it should be fine for your phone. That way there's no danger of anything sticking to or damaging your phone.

  • @snowboardfreak572 : We've actually done an iPhone case project and the starting point isn't to actually pull a mould directly off the iPhone but instead to make a 'pattern' (or copy) of the iPhone, perfectly to scale, which you can smooth out, fractionally enlarge (about 0.5mm all round) and then use this to pull a mould off. We use polyurethane tooling block to make the pattern but you could use something as simple as MDF and then seal and polish it. No risk to your iPhone this way.

  • @snowboardfreak572 Maybe you could buy a cheap hard case and take a mold of it? Just an idea. And if you get it from walmart....you could even return it when you're done because they're dumb asses :)

  • @snowboardfreak572 Maybe get a cheap iphone case then make a mould off that?

  • @snowboardfreak572 you could buy it on ebay but if you want to make it yourself i am not sure

  • so you can make anything out of carbon fiber? can i make a carbon fiber faceplate for my psp? please reply back.

  • @777Knightrider : Yes, you could make a faceplate. It's another fiddly item so you'd have to do very careful trimming of the finished part in order to make it fit properly and with a faceplate you'd also need to lay-up the faceplate very light and try to ensure a consistent thickness of the reinforcement so that it sat on the PSP properly but if you've got the patience and some skill it's perfectly possible.

  • @777Knightrider pretty much if you can make a mold for you then you can make a carbon fiber duplicate

  • how would you do this for a gear?

  • @Waggyjrjr : You wouldn't really want to make a carbon fibre gear would you?

  • @Waggyjrjr Structural and mechanical parts usually require an autoclave.

    Paul Danger Kile

  • @carbonmods How big is the sheet of carbon fiber that comes with a kit?

    is there enough there to remake a car hood?(on a 2003 vx220)

  • @redghost105 The piece of fabric in the kit is 1m x 30cm (about 3' x 1') so it's not big enough to do a full vehicle hood. We do, however, have a "Bonnet/Hood Skinning Kit" which is designed specifically for what you want to do. The fabric in that kit is 1.5m x 1.25m (59" x 49"). It's listed in the Starter Kits section of our website and available for worldwide shipping.

  • @redghost105 The piece of fabric in the kit in our Laminating Kit is 1m x 30cm (about 3' x 1') so it's not big enough to do a full vehicle hood. If you want to make a hood (out of pure carbon fibre) then you're going to need something like 6 square yards of fabric. We sell fabric and resins in larger quantities separately on our site so this would be the way to go for something the size of a hood.

  • @carbonmods how much would 6 square yards cost?

  • For the fabric alone, 6 square metres (pretty close to 6 square yards) would be £114 ($178 USD).

  • @carbonmods for using in RC cars and stuff like that

  • Why is there a piece of potty under the finished product at 6:13?

  • What a huge amount of work this looks like to someone like me who's not into cars.

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  • This is fantastic! Are these mold durable and reusable?

  • @nettyft : Yes, absolutely. You have made a permenant mould that can be used for numerous releases and then re-polished if it gets scratched or faded. It's a very good system.

  • are the finished moulds suitable to use in an oven/autoclave and are you able to apply release agents such as freecoate or chemlease to them? also are they just one shot use or multiple cures at high temp? thanks

  • @pc1987pc : This is an ambient temperature system and so not designed for elevated temnperature cure (like in an autoclave). We do actually have a high temperature system that we use in our autoclave but given how specialist that is it's not something we have in a retail kit. This system would be OK up to about 70 degrees though so you could accellerate the cure in a composites oven up to about this temp. All chemical release (freecote, chemlease, etc.) agents work fine with this system.

  • would the finished mould be suitable to use in an oven/autoclave and with pre-preg? can you use release agents on them such as freecoat or chemlease? thanks

  • are these moulds suitable to use in an oven/autoclave and is it ok to use pre-preg carbon on them? thanks

  • what kind of modeling clay did you use? And just wanna ask if you know how to make a positive mold using cheap materials that are easy to find?

  • @123renigade : Well, in the UK most people know it as Plasticine, we actually buy it in bulk from a composites supplier which makes it even cheaper but it is just the type of cheap basic modelling clay for kids that never cures. - As for making the pattern (the positive) in the first place you can use just about anything. Often we use bits of MDF board glued and screwed and then smoothed with bodyfiller. PU foam (like for dry flower arranging) is another option but needs coating to seal it.

  • what kind of modeling clay did you use? And just wanna ask if you know how to make a positive mold using cheap materials that are easy to find?

  • What if you want to do this to a much bigger part? What do you need?

  • @warman0712 : We have a 'Large' versio of the kit which has 6 times the material for about 3 times the price. If you're making something much bigger than that (whole care body panels) then the advantages of this material (quick to use, void free mouds especially in difficult areas) are probably outweighed by the cost compared to conventional fibreglass moulds.

  • get a mic! ;)

  • I'm impressed.

  • how much would this kit run me plus shipping? i live in Los Angeles CA.

  • @BYCURE213 : Shipping to the US is £16 ($23) so it would be $67 on your doorstep. Shipping takes about 7 days. We send our kits your way every day!

  • @carbonmods oh ok, beautiful, thanks alot

  • I would like to make a functional custom hood [not scoop, the whole hood] for an 07 dodge charger. My plan is to buy a scoop and temporarily attach it to my stock hood with 2 sided tape. I will use it as a base to make a rough plug. From there I am guessing on how to make a mold and then the actual hood. Please Help with a video showing everything and I do mean everything. I am a complete beginner here. Thanks

  • Very sexy mold! Good Job. 5 out of 5.

  • Note to carbon mods. Transfer mix into new cup to continue mixing, to avoid applying unmixed material from cup sides and bottom, to mold surface and dealing with uncured epoxy which is a pain. It is a basic concept.

  • I think it would be better to fully mix the epoxy rather than dealing with another cup. Generally it takes 24hrs or more for a carbon fiber part to cure, and the less epoxy resin you use the stronger the part will be.

  • @maverick1552 : Quite right. If you read the instructions that accompany the kit (which anyone who actually buys the kit will surely do) then you'll see that's exactly what we tell people to do, along with lots of other things that are too numerous to all be included in this simple video. The instructions can be freely downloaded from our website whether you buy the kit or not, as they can be for a whole range of other carbon fibre topics. Don't worry Maverick, we know the basics 'and some'.

  • how can i make a mold of a side mirror?

  • Nice video my friend

    But i have a question.

    If we have a ring for example how can we make the mould?

  • If you want to make a ring, a good suggestion is to use a pipe or tube as your mould. Haven't tried it yet, but it seems simple enough. Just apply a release agent on the tube, cut out a strip of carbon fiber at the desired width, tack one end of your strip onto the tube with epoxy resin, wrap the carbon fiber as you apply the spoxy, vacuum bag it, and let it cure for 24hrs or more. Haven't seen a 100% carbon fiber ring before. Only a silver ring with a carbon fiber insert.

  • @tsoliashellas : You would need to make a 'split moud'. This is where you make tow halves of the mould with flanges that come together (and are generally then bolted together). You laminate into the inside of the two moulds and then when the part has cured you take the to halves of the mould apart to release the part.

  • is it possible to build a mould for a carpet or maybe a headliner for my camaro? i don't know if if would work with the cloth is why I ask. if anyone could answer my question that would be awesome! thanks

  • is there any way i can make dry carbon fiber at home without the massive vacuum room?

  • @dj7310 :The 'massive vacuum room' you refer to is an autoclave and it's actually a pressure vessel. There are ways to do dry carbon (pre-preg) without an autoclave but there arn't really ways to do it without a vacuum pump and a composites oven at the very least. We sell composites vacuum pumps and could point you in the right direction for your oven and pre-pregs but beyond that it's reasonably advanced stuff and a little beyond most home enthusiasts.

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  • awesome video!

    looking to make a carbon fibre part myself soon, that putty is a good idea, is it basically the same as the fibreglass filler paste stuff you get from the likes of halfords?

  • Hi Blakep82,

    The Putty is very different from the fibreglass filler, it is an epoxy base rather than polyester, and has a high-modulus reinforcement integrated in, which makes the cured material very strong and tough. It is also designed to bond perfectly to the tooling gel-coat. Thanks for the question.

    Carbon Mods

  • you can mix fiberglass and epoxy....i mean u can use both poliester based and epoxy based resin

  • @blakep82 : I wouldn't suggest using polyester filler as the reinforcement for your mould. For starters, dispite its name filler isn't really filled anywhere near enough for this kind of work and would distort and contract if you tried to biuld up a thick layer to use as reinforcement in the way we can with the mould making putty. Also, the epoxy tooling gel coat is a crucial part of this kit ensuring that you have a compatible mould surface suitable for taking epoxy parts from.

  • wow ok A* tutorial impressed

  • Thats just awesome :) ... can you ship this to Mexico???? It would be great

  • Hi Axelvader,

    There is no problem shipping to mexico, we ship worldwide everyday, our website will give you the exact shipping price to mexico. I hope this helps.

    CarbonMods

  • because of the echo i didn't understand some words, can you write what products exactly did you use to make a mould? I only undestood that the green thing is gelcoat

  • Hi Olsen, If you got to our website you can see the full list of materials used there.

    Thanks CarbonMods

  • After you finish Putting the carbon fiber from the skinning starter kit on your item, how far does it stick out?

  • Hi JaimeDame,

    It Depends on how many layers of top-coat you build on, but it is normally between 0.5mm and 0.75mm. Hope this Helps.

    Carbon Mods

  • Are there more than these 3 videos? I just ordered the mold making starter kit, hope I can get it before Wednesday next week in Germany?

  • Hi Hordakker,

    We are working on more videosall of the time , simply subscribe to us to get updates when they are released.

    Delivery will normally take about 4 days to Germany, so you should get it in plenty of time. Thanks, Carbon Mods.

  • great video, but the echo makes it hard to hear

  • Agreed. We're still better at making kits and parts than videos. We bought a new mic but it came after we made this video. Hopefully our next ones will sound much better!

  • @pixuma : We've got a new studio set-up which will hoefully improve the sound for future videos. We're not video experts, we just know our composites so sorry about the iffy sound!

  • @carbonmods  Cool!!

  • what a great product.

  • what happened to your nails !!

  • I know! that's the hands hands of someone who spends all day every day making carbon fibre parts.

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