shut up bitch. you spineless no real opinion just going with the typical always stating the obvious because he wants to be safe and get likes and thumbs up. you're the worst.
@cyrus138 - Nah dude it's basically because, through intention or not, you really should be paying attention to what words you use and know the full extent of their meaning. It kind of comes across like you don't care about what you're saying, because you can't be bothered to articulate your point properly.
And if you can't be bothered to articulate it, why should we be bothered to receive it? Anyway, don't worry about it, this is just stuff you learn as you get older.
Apparently Rorshach's a delicious gumbo of A: the speech patterns of Herbie Popnecker. B: the visuals of Steve Ditko's Mr. A and C: the letters of David Berkowitz. All these influenced Alan Moore's writing of the character.
I don't think of Rorschach as a phycopath, a lot of what he says makes sense and I respect and admire him in many ways. He's been through hell and at the end of the story. He's my hero
I still remember the first time I say down and read Watchmen and V For Vendetta. I was literally speechless. They were just so dense, so intelligent, so complex, and so challenging, I'd rarely seen anything like that in any medium, least of all comics. It really did change me as a person in ways, and change my perceptions of things.
@MrEpiclyrandom Jackie Earle Haley was flawless, while its almost impossible to cast comic characters perfectly almost the entire cast embraced the roles and should be credited as such.
@RS1Comedy1Vids the philosophical aspect was definately inspired by Batman, but his physical inspiration came from the superhero The Question (whos also a DC character.) so I'd say 50/50
Mexicanman221: just completed a Professional Writing degree, Watchmen, Maid, V for Vendetta and Arkham Asylum are all required reading on the sequential art module. Look to Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics for a sound argument base.
My english extension teacher of two degrees told me today i cant write a critical analyses on Alan Moore's Watchmen because he said they have no real meaning and there are no real themes in comic books (he has never read the book) what should i say to him so that he wil let me do it??
Superheroes in the real world would be a joke...not so sure. If a guy like Roscharch came at me or I upset someone who could fry me into a crisp with his laser vision I wouldn't have much reason to be amused.
I don't know why society is bothered by the idea of a vigilante so much; we accept them in criminals We all feel and bemoan how concepts of honour and justice decline. Yet we happily vote people into power who are no more qualified than you or me to make decisions for us all.
I just finished reading Watchmen, and it was incredible. I have NEVER read ANY book that made me think so much. It really challenges you on so many different levels. I can't wait to go through it again.
@cha5 Although the government got all sorts of halfassed ideas on how to deal with Castro in the 1960s, everything from spraying his shoes with LSD, to poisoning his cigars, to an exploding conch shell :-P
Yet you're going to tell me this same government could suddenly grow a brain back then, and carry out a presidential assassination flawlessly? I'll believe that when I see something concrete from you, but I'm not holding my breath, Nappy.
@Hoppus217 So the American government was also behind JFK's assasination eh? well at least you didn't pin it on The Comedian, This was the same government that got the idea of having Castro's beard falling out on Cuban TV thanks to some tainted cigars, in case you've never studied your history sunshine.
@Hoppus217 If the label fits wear it, I've seen nothing from you that I haven't heard time and again from your basic conspiracy nutjob, the ones who arranged 9/11 were Osama bin-Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.
bin-Laden himself boasted "There is America, hit by god in one of its softest spots"
And I didn't call you a muslim lover, I called you an Al-Qaeda apologist which you are.
@Hoppus217 And the Pentagon got hit with a plane on Sept 11 and everyone in the military in the know just put up and shut up at the cost of the lives of all their brothers in arms and nobody ever breathed a word huh? that's not how it works sunshine, but I don't expect rational thought from your basic conspiracy Al Qaeda apologist.
@Hoppus217 Either give us some concrete evidence that 9/11 was a government plot outside of your masturbatory fantasies, or go take it to the prison planet message board.
@Hoppus217 Like I said something other than you can get on a basic Alex Jones show, calling for the mass execution of brokers is the equvalent of yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre, (even though I dislike brokers for their pissant Wall St shenanigans)
@Hoppus217 No he wouldn't :-P, Moore has a low tolerance for conspiracy/religious scapegoating wheither it's from Christians or Muslims read his story 'This Is Information'. Plus one of his closest friends Neil Gaiman is Jewish.
Very interesting points were made in Watchmen, I just loved the whole Superhero in reality perspective. Alan Moore was right, if superheroes did exist then would not everyone find them scary? Look at superman. I know I would be scared if a man could be capable of such destruction by himself. People would worship him as a god. People would label him as a threat to humanity. Governments would use him as like an ICBM. That's what Dr Manhattan represented.
That motherfucking accent makes me have eargasms... and of course Watchmen V and Ligue of extraordinary men, Awesome! Alan Moore you are a Genius and you taught me about life :)!
The pseudo myths which make up the entertainment industry always reinforces the basic plan of civilizing people, which is to reaffirm the need for power. I think that people cannot create their own myths, or carry them down from parent to child because it would undermine the establishment's ability to control us by controlling the content of our souls.
Moore really underplays the true madness behind rorscach's character whilst reading, sounds much more sinister and realistic than Jackie Earle Haley's depiction in the movie.
Moore really underplays the true madness behind rorscach's character whilst reading, sounds much more sinister and realistic than Jackie Earle Haley's depiction in the movie.
@daimyoyo Well it's still a subject that comes up, Moore had mentioned recently in an interview that one of the most popular subjects his magazine Dodgem Logic gets by e-mail is ideas for a prequel/sequel to Watchmen, Of course Moore doesn't even own a copy of the book anymore. (I think he gave it to some charity or something)
>Implying Dark Knight Returns and Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle didn't challenge the notion that superheroes are happy happy long and shortly before Watchmen
@KozmikPariah There were also works like the O'Neil and Adams Green Lantern & Green Arrow drug stories and Frank Miller's DareDevil stories. It's not like there were never any works prior to Watchmen that took a long hard look at superheroes, but I don't think there were any that took a scalpel to the whole concept of the superhero quite like Moore and Gibbons did, not even The Dark Knight returns.
@cha5 Yeah... I am not saying WM is bad, just it has been done. I think TDKR came pretty close to doing this as well. Milligan's Enigma is pretty good, too.
@KozmikPariah Well for me the closest thing to compare to Watchmen would be Harvey Kurtzman's Superduperman satire for MAD which was a complete deconstruction of the entire superhero concept, Watchmen however was a drama as opposed to a humorous satire like Kurtzman gave us, plus Moore gave us an entire world in which the real life presence of beings like superheros would be an absolute nightmare with their impact on our world.
@KozmikPariah Also another source for Watchmen was the 1970s novel 'Superfolks' although I don't think Superfolks went quite as far as Watchmen did in having a character like Dr Manhattan changing our course of history like having America win the Vietnam war and having Nixon winning the presidency again not to mention advancing our technology and having The Comedian killing JFK and Woodward and Bernstein and Veidt and his dreams of utopia for all mankind,
But I'd say TDKR went nearly as far, although of coruse it didn't have the same plot as WM.
If you ask Grant Morrison, he'd say Enigma is Watchmen x 15
Another fairly interesting yarn is Brat Pack by Veitch, who was buddy buddy with Moore for much of his Swamp Thing run (and a really swell writer in his own right)
@KozmikPariah We'll just have to agree to disagree about TDKR and Enigma,
but you're absolutely right that Brat Pack is a great read and a memorable twist on the superhero sidekick.
A book of Veitch's I like even better than Brat Pack is his followup to that story
The Maximortal which offers a memorable take on the history of Superman's creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. (although their real life story is sad and touching enough without any need for embellishment.)
@cha5 Maximortal and really anything by RV is great.
American Flagg is also great, the series is collected in two hc's (and reprinted in two tpb's) from Image, so now's a pretty good time to get into it :)
@KozmikPariah One other comic that kind of went into the same territory as some of Frank Miller's earlier work like his DareDevil stories and Elektra plus TDKR in the 1980s was Howard Chaykin's American Flagg (although I never followed it at the time like I should have, sad to say) Michael Chabon (The Amazing Adventures Of Kavalier And Clay) has even gone on record as calling it a pivotal comicbook of the 1980s.
@KozmikPariah For me Watchmen is a pretty high watermark to reach and most basic superhero books don't come close to creating a fictional world on the scale that Moore and Gibbons did back in 1986-1987 and asking questions like what kind of an impact would an actual all powerful super powered being with the powers of a god who could rearrange atomic structure actually have on our world? would people worship a being like this? how would he affect world politics and technology? & that's just Dr M
@matrixlone Moore mentioned in a recent Comedy Central UK podcast that one of the most constant messages he gets from e-mails from fans to his magazine Dodgem-Logic are ideas and proposals for prequels and sequels to Watchmen,
Believe it or not he actually sounded pretty good humored about it, at least in this podcast, kind of like something he just takes in stride being as it's probably something he's heard ever since Watchmen was first published.
i was gonna make a comment about the Rorschach voice but i don't want an angry mob to find me and sacrifice me in the streets. soooo i'll keep it to myself tyvm
I'm interested to see how a graphic novel focussing in on the Minutemen would go. The details hinted at in Watchmen - Silhoette's sexuality, Mothman's decent into madness and the whole corperate identity of Dollar Bill (created by a bank for it's own protection) would be brilliant, all before a back drop of a slightly skewed 1930s/40s
@cha5 I dont understand, unless he just called Rorchach a nutcase because he didnt feel the need to go into detail about the charachter still though its disrespect to rorshach.
@dangel6667 Moore pretty well went into all the details of what shaped Rorschach in chapter VI of Watchmen, and I have no problem with him calling Rorschach a nutcase, anymore than I would have with Martin Scorsese calling Travis Bickle a psychopath.
@dangel6667 In case you haven't noticed most of the superheros in Watchmen have a pretty extreme POV and Moore doesn't really have sympathy for Rorschach's black and white view of the world anymore than he does for Ozymandias's justification for killing off the entire population of NYC in order to advance his utopia vision for the world.
One of Moore's most basic themes in Watchmen is "It's dangerous to have heroes"
@cha5 Yes I have realized that before about how it challenges what it means to be a hero though I had never imagined that the writer had seen superheros as a very dangerous idea. I had to seen both of them as the most human charachters after awile and realized it was the question of how Adrians plan could have been prevented and not how right he was.
@dangel6667 Remember what Dan tells Laurie in the restaurant about the do-gooder trying to help Rorschach: he pushed him down an elevator shaft! There isn't actually much difference between black and white in Rorschachs worldview. The black tends to see more of his dark side is all!
@mrkeogh He wasn't a do-gooder... he was this A-whole wannabe bad guy, always crossing paths with the watchmen. Trying to make them beat him up.. wasting their time. That's why Rorschach threw him down the elevator... because Rorschach is a "Don't Fuck with Me type of guy". Well, that's how it was in the movie anyway.
@ChrisGofMMTV meh, it is not like he explains how he dies. There are lots of great works of literature where the audience already knew the outcome. The enjoyment was in appreciating how the characters sink to such desperate extremes, not in being surprised by it. Just look at any Greek tragedy as well as any of the great epic poems. Shoot, even most of the Shakespearean tragedies explain exactly what is going to happen right at the start of the play.
@racinggreg2011 Dr. Manhatten secretly didn't kill Rorschach instead ethier put him in suspended animation somewhere or sent him to the DC universe so he can at least have his own comic and he could live without being compromised
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Phi1eap 4 days ago
shut up bitch. you spineless no real opinion just going with the typical always stating the obvious because he wants to be safe and get likes and thumbs up. you're the worst.
cyrus138 1 week ago
@cyrus138 - Nah dude it's basically because, through intention or not, you really should be paying attention to what words you use and know the full extent of their meaning. It kind of comes across like you don't care about what you're saying, because you can't be bothered to articulate your point properly.
And if you can't be bothered to articulate it, why should we be bothered to receive it? Anyway, don't worry about it, this is just stuff you learn as you get older.
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Its awesome to hear him read Watchmen
TheOwnerofFightClub 2 weeks ago
Apparently Rorshach's a delicious gumbo of A: the speech patterns of Herbie Popnecker. B: the visuals of Steve Ditko's Mr. A and C: the letters of David Berkowitz. All these influenced Alan Moore's writing of the character.
allaboutdmagic 2 weeks ago
Apparently 45 people haven't read watchmen...
geoffbferguson 2 months ago 5
I don't think of Rorschach as a phycopath, a lot of what he says makes sense and I respect and admire him in many ways. He's been through hell and at the end of the story. He's my hero
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ZADER4427 2 months ago
I still remember the first time I say down and read Watchmen and V For Vendetta. I was literally speechless. They were just so dense, so intelligent, so complex, and so challenging, I'd rarely seen anything like that in any medium, least of all comics. It really did change me as a person in ways, and change my perceptions of things.
hanshotfirst1138 2 months ago
@MrEpiclyrandom Jackie Earle Haley was flawless, while its almost impossible to cast comic characters perfectly almost the entire cast embraced the roles and should be credited as such.
tiemedown 2 months ago
So Rorschach was inspired by Batman? Huh, should have seen it from the start. No wonder I got completely pissed off at Dr. Manhattan.
RS1Comedy1Vids 2 months ago
@RS1Comedy1Vids the philosophical aspect was definately inspired by Batman, but his physical inspiration came from the superhero The Question (whos also a DC character.) so I'd say 50/50
87Firebane 1 month ago
@87Firebane I'm kinda surprised Alan Moore did'nt mention that....
87Firebane 1 month ago
God, I love the sound of this man's voice.
SwampLord9 3 months ago
I know Rorschach isn't english but when Alan Moore did his voice it felt....right.
MujaheedMopeme 5 months ago 9
@ThaPoopa yeah but niteowl didnt care that rorschach died either in the GN
thats what pissed me off the most. He just came of as a pussywhiped careless douchebag.
oh hey rorschach, i got pus- laurie now, good luck getting back to new york or whatever...
Headphoneguy92 5 months ago
Rorschach= best masked vigilante ever. Watchmen= best graphic novel ever. Alan Moore= best comic book writer ever.
sidecar23 5 months ago 39
@sidecar23 Watchmen Movie= Gayest and lamest superhero movie ever
cyrus138 2 weeks ago
@cyrus138 cyrus138=most ignorant motherfucker ever
ShangTsung917 2 weeks ago 5
@ShangTsung917 ShangTsung917 = a bitch
cyrus138 2 weeks ago
@cyrus138 that's real original, equating the words gayest and lamest as insults to what watchmen is, to its core shows your ignorance
ShangTsung917 1 week ago
@cyrus138 Sorry but equations from simple-minded homophobes do not have a bearing on me :)
sidecar23 2 weeks ago
@sidecar23 No apologies needed from a pretentious wuss like you :)
cyrus138 2 weeks ago
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sidecar23 2 weeks ago
*Maus.
WRITETRACK76 5 months ago
Mexicanman221: just completed a Professional Writing degree, Watchmen, Maid, V for Vendetta and Arkham Asylum are all required reading on the sequential art module. Look to Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics for a sound argument base.
WRITETRACK76 5 months ago
He sounds australian when he does rorschach's voice
HellCatFury12 6 months ago
This is fucking awesome, just watching this makes me want to buy this graphic novel even more.
lukerr87 6 months ago
My english extension teacher of two degrees told me today i cant write a critical analyses on Alan Moore's Watchmen because he said they have no real meaning and there are no real themes in comic books (he has never read the book) what should i say to him so that he wil let me do it??
mexicanman221 6 months ago
@mexicanman221 Well he's not going to change his mind unless he ACUTALLY reads one. Maybe you should let him borrow it or something idk.
CloneCommandos101 6 months ago
@mexicanman221 Tell him he's an effing ignoramus for disapproving something he has no idea of.
sidecar23 5 months ago
@mexicanman221 tell him to fuck off.
TheCrimsonNutcase 4 months ago
who also had goosebumps when moore read rorschach's journal?
ahmedhow 6 months ago 5
huh at 4:22, where is that in the comic book? :-/
ninnypiggy 7 months ago
@ninnypiggy Chapter II 'Absent Friends' page 25
cha5 7 months ago
@cha5
cheers! I thought I knew every page out of my head so this surprised me :p
ninnypiggy 7 months ago
Superheroes in the real world would be a joke...not so sure. If a guy like Roscharch came at me or I upset someone who could fry me into a crisp with his laser vision I wouldn't have much reason to be amused.
I don't know why society is bothered by the idea of a vigilante so much; we accept them in criminals We all feel and bemoan how concepts of honour and justice decline. Yet we happily vote people into power who are no more qualified than you or me to make decisions for us all.
peri2502 7 months ago
shit yeah this guy is in every word a true legend
JMAN19851 7 months ago
was the film watchmen truthful to the comic. i know things are left out or slightly changed for screen but the heart of the story was there??
defmouse14 7 months ago
@defmouse14 Yes but the theme of the comic, that being moral ambiguity and the like, is not as important in the movie.
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WaltonFowler 8 months ago
You kids say twilight is the best book of all time...us Adults say watchmen is the best book of all time
whywhybother 8 months ago
@whywhybother I like both, and I'm an adult. :/
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whywhybother 5 months ago
hey Alan Moore.... Jesus loves you!!! give your life to Christ....
zoltron30 8 months ago
watchmen is my second favorite book I've ever read. right behind 1984
keEinn45 8 months ago
44 people were the whores that looked up to the sky and were whispered "NO"
onslaught119 9 months ago
His Rorschach voice is just EPIC
TheUndeadMouse 10 months ago 40
@TheUndeadMouse I was just gonna write that comment! :P
themilkmon 9 months ago
If Watchmen was set in England, I'd like to see Moore play Rorschach. Sounds more psychotic than Haley, who did an excellent job, by the way.
Metamorp8 11 months ago 4
I just finished reading Watchmen, and it was incredible. I have NEVER read ANY book that made me think so much. It really challenges you on so many different levels. I can't wait to go through it again.
peerpressure1999 11 months ago
How do YouTube discussions always get off topic like this? Oh and good interview
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cha5 11 months ago
@cha5 Although the government got all sorts of halfassed ideas on how to deal with Castro in the 1960s, everything from spraying his shoes with LSD, to poisoning his cigars, to an exploding conch shell :-P
Yet you're going to tell me this same government could suddenly grow a brain back then, and carry out a presidential assassination flawlessly? I'll believe that when I see something concrete from you, but I'm not holding my breath, Nappy.
cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 So the American government was also behind JFK's assasination eh? well at least you didn't pin it on The Comedian, This was the same government that got the idea of having Castro's beard falling out on Cuban TV thanks to some tainted cigars, in case you've never studied your history sunshine.
cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 If the label fits wear it, I've seen nothing from you that I haven't heard time and again from your basic conspiracy nutjob, the ones who arranged 9/11 were Osama bin-Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.
bin-Laden himself boasted "There is America, hit by god in one of its softest spots"
And I didn't call you a muslim lover, I called you an Al-Qaeda apologist which you are.
cha5 11 months ago
Who Watches The Watchmen?
ReverseNegativeTV 11 months ago 4
@Hoppus217 And the Pentagon got hit with a plane on Sept 11 and everyone in the military in the know just put up and shut up at the cost of the lives of all their brothers in arms and nobody ever breathed a word huh? that's not how it works sunshine, but I don't expect rational thought from your basic conspiracy Al Qaeda apologist.
cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 Either give us some concrete evidence that 9/11 was a government plot outside of your masturbatory fantasies, or go take it to the prison planet message board.
cha5 11 months ago
@cha5 well i heard it was an insurance job.....
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@Hoppus217 Like I said something other than you can get on a basic Alex Jones show, calling for the mass execution of brokers is the equvalent of yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre, (even though I dislike brokers for their pissant Wall St shenanigans)
cha5 11 months ago
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cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 Well ignorance is universal and it sticks out like a sore thumb, moron.
cha5 11 months ago
43 people got raped by rorschach
thendisnigh1 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 And it's 'hoax', try basic spell check.
cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 No it wasn't try something besides the basic conspiracy crap.
cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 But I'll grant that being a muslim doesn't automatically make you a wannabe neo-nazi
or a bin laden sympathizer either.
cha5 11 months ago
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cha5 11 months ago
@Hoppus217 No he wouldn't :-P, Moore has a low tolerance for conspiracy/religious scapegoating wheither it's from Christians or Muslims read his story 'This Is Information'. Plus one of his closest friends Neil Gaiman is Jewish.
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Very interesting points were made in Watchmen, I just loved the whole Superhero in reality perspective. Alan Moore was right, if superheroes did exist then would not everyone find them scary? Look at superman. I know I would be scared if a man could be capable of such destruction by himself. People would worship him as a god. People would label him as a threat to humanity. Governments would use him as like an ICBM. That's what Dr Manhattan represented.
atomicbreaker 11 months ago
That motherfucking accent makes me have eargasms... and of course Watchmen V and Ligue of extraordinary men, Awesome! Alan Moore you are a Genius and you taught me about life :)!
fsfsfsfsfsfsg 1 year ago
@Hoppus217 LOL WUT?
morpDprime 1 year ago
The pseudo myths which make up the entertainment industry always reinforces the basic plan of civilizing people, which is to reaffirm the need for power. I think that people cannot create their own myths, or carry them down from parent to child because it would undermine the establishment's ability to control us by controlling the content of our souls.
JasonDamisch 1 year ago
I dont get the american love part
cikasba 1 year ago
that Rorschach voice Alan Moore did was haunting. I felt it to be perfect.
SuperBadCharles 1 year ago
It's hard to imagine the same Alan Moore in all the disputes he's been involved in.
ruinawish 1 year ago
soleman177 fails
nver comprimise
not even in the face of aramgaddeon
PrivateandtheGunny 1 year ago
This guy is a national treasure he makes me proud to be british!
metaldonut1214 1 year ago
Is he still friend of the snake-god-thingy? Nah, just joking. I have to agree, this man is awesome and a freaking legend.
ColonelLarfleeze 1 year ago
I guess this guy gets more pussy than any of you guys on youtube
erlendpeder 1 year ago
This man is a genius.
Period.
hv07120 1 year ago
SO...what's with the ring-thing?
ShadowDJ94 1 year ago
damn. how does he sound like that when he's reading as rorschach?
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Moore really underplays the true madness behind rorscach's character whilst reading, sounds much more sinister and realistic than Jackie Earle Haley's depiction in the movie.
Bicycle1800s 1 year ago
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Moore really underplays the true madness behind rorscach's character whilst reading, sounds much more sinister and realistic than Jackie Earle Haley's depiction in the movie.
Bicycle1800s 1 year ago
Alan Moore is one of my favourite authors of all time, if you count him as a proper author.
Maximillionaire666 1 year ago
alan fucking moore everyone.
prinny081 1 year ago 2
How did the get him to talk about this book after so many years? I'd thought he'd disowned it.
daimyoyo 1 year ago 2
@daimyoyo Well it's still a subject that comes up, Moore had mentioned recently in an interview that one of the most popular subjects his magazine Dodgem Logic gets by e-mail is ideas for a prequel/sequel to Watchmen, Of course Moore doesn't even own a copy of the book anymore. (I think he gave it to some charity or something)
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hasanlolane 1 year ago
Even in the face of Aramgaddeon,
Never Compromise.
SoleMan117 1 year ago 80
@SoleMan117 aramgaddeon.
petticordr 1 year ago
@SoleMan117 Way to completely butcher an amazing quote.
TheRealEzzy 1 year ago
@SoleMan117 That is a suicidal level of inflexability. Failure to compromise is infantile and shows a lack of perspective.
sciencedoggy 1 year ago 2
@sciencedoggy Um...
You do realize why I made that statement, don't you?
SoleMan117 1 year ago
V for Vendetta and a Watchmen had many parts that made me cry.. Those were the best books I've ever read. Thank you Alan Moore.
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shellicreed 1 year ago
If Alan Moore saw even two of the Watchmen parodies on youtube, he'd probably unleash his alien squiddies on us all.
TSHTSMusic 1 year ago 2
Anybody know the name of the song that starts around 2:36 until the end?
KarlTX1000 1 year ago
>Implying Dark Knight Returns and Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle didn't challenge the notion that superheroes are happy happy long and shortly before Watchmen
lol Alan Moore
KozmikPariah 1 year ago
@KozmikPariah There were also works like the O'Neil and Adams Green Lantern & Green Arrow drug stories and Frank Miller's DareDevil stories. It's not like there were never any works prior to Watchmen that took a long hard look at superheroes, but I don't think there were any that took a scalpel to the whole concept of the superhero quite like Moore and Gibbons did, not even The Dark Knight returns.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Yeah... I am not saying WM is bad, just it has been done. I think TDKR came pretty close to doing this as well. Milligan's Enigma is pretty good, too.
KozmikPariah 1 year ago
@KozmikPariah Well for me the closest thing to compare to Watchmen would be Harvey Kurtzman's Superduperman satire for MAD which was a complete deconstruction of the entire superhero concept, Watchmen however was a drama as opposed to a humorous satire like Kurtzman gave us, plus Moore gave us an entire world in which the real life presence of beings like superheros would be an absolute nightmare with their impact on our world.
cha5 1 year ago
@KozmikPariah Also another source for Watchmen was the 1970s novel 'Superfolks' although I don't think Superfolks went quite as far as Watchmen did in having a character like Dr Manhattan changing our course of history like having America win the Vietnam war and having Nixon winning the presidency again not to mention advancing our technology and having The Comedian killing JFK and Woodward and Bernstein and Veidt and his dreams of utopia for all mankind,
nor did TDKR and Enigma, sorry.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Superfolks isn't too bad
But I'd say TDKR went nearly as far, although of coruse it didn't have the same plot as WM.
If you ask Grant Morrison, he'd say Enigma is Watchmen x 15
Another fairly interesting yarn is Brat Pack by Veitch, who was buddy buddy with Moore for much of his Swamp Thing run (and a really swell writer in his own right)
KozmikPariah 1 year ago
@KozmikPariah We'll just have to agree to disagree about TDKR and Enigma,
but you're absolutely right that Brat Pack is a great read and a memorable twist on the superhero sidekick.
A book of Veitch's I like even better than Brat Pack is his followup to that story
The Maximortal which offers a memorable take on the history of Superman's creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. (although their real life story is sad and touching enough without any need for embellishment.)
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Maximortal and really anything by RV is great.
American Flagg is also great, the series is collected in two hc's (and reprinted in two tpb's) from Image, so now's a pretty good time to get into it :)
KozmikPariah 1 year ago
@KozmikPariah One other comic that kind of went into the same territory as some of Frank Miller's earlier work like his DareDevil stories and Elektra plus TDKR in the 1980s was Howard Chaykin's American Flagg (although I never followed it at the time like I should have, sad to say) Michael Chabon (The Amazing Adventures Of Kavalier And Clay) has even gone on record as calling it a pivotal comicbook of the 1980s.
cha5 1 year ago
@KozmikPariah For me Watchmen is a pretty high watermark to reach and most basic superhero books don't come close to creating a fictional world on the scale that Moore and Gibbons did back in 1986-1987 and asking questions like what kind of an impact would an actual all powerful super powered being with the powers of a god who could rearrange atomic structure actually have on our world? would people worship a being like this? how would he affect world politics and technology? & that's just Dr M
cha5 1 year ago
4.04 this guy's retarded and NOT funny.
TroutMaskReplicaa 1 year ago
@TroutMaskReplicaa what gave you the impression he was trying to be funny?
afsbjah2 1 year ago
@afsbjah2 IN comedy central podcasts, his botched attempts take up most the audiospace
TroutMaskReplicaa 1 year ago
@TroutMaskReplicaa Oh I dunno, I got a howl out of his reference to Lovecraft's 'The Statement of Randolph Carter' in Neonomicon 2.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Me too. Didn't actually get it until the next day around lunch time when I thought 'Oh shit yeah-heh heh.' Issue three's out next week!
allaboutdmagic 1 year ago
@allaboutdmagic Can't wait for it, talk about a cliffhanger ending :O
Those poor Feds.
cha5 1 year ago
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I'm so happy Alan decided to read the panel with the date Oct 16 1985: That's my birthday!
scoreman 1 year ago
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I'm so happy Alan decided to read the panel with the date Oct 16, 1985: That's my birthday!
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scoreman 1 year ago
What range Alan Moore has! I had no idea he was such a talented voice actor. The man is a genius.
BandakaKush 1 year ago 4
i kinda want him to read every Issue of Watchmen.
vincentx915 1 year ago 6
is it me or does alan moore look alot like maggie gylenhall????
tonytst88 1 year ago 5
@tonytst88 you sir are very right.
jimmybloodyjimmy 1 year ago
@tonytst88
He is maggie gyllenhall. With a beard.
rencrow 1 year ago 2
@rencrow No, Maggie Gyllenhaal is Alan Moore. Without a beard.
LightStijn 1 year ago 5
Omg Alan is a scorpio to :) like me. who else is a scorpio :)?
BinaryPhoenix 1 year ago
I loved the movie, however there were many unnecessary nude scenes
sergemiester 1 year ago
@sergemiester were ever there where nude scenes in the comic they put them in the movie
dcdude171 1 year ago
Question: Does Alan Moore know his shit? Answer: Yes. Yes he does...and is not ashamed to do so.
jtbond1975 1 year ago
@jtbond1975 i heard he recently turned down dc for the watchmen rights to make sequels and prequels and stuff whys he hate them
matrixlone 1 year ago
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cha5 1 year ago
@matrixlone Moore mentioned in a recent Comedy Central UK podcast that one of the most constant messages he gets from e-mails from fans to his magazine Dodgem-Logic are ideas and proposals for prequels and sequels to Watchmen,
Believe it or not he actually sounded pretty good humored about it, at least in this podcast, kind of like something he just takes in stride being as it's probably something he's heard ever since Watchmen was first published.
cha5 1 year ago
what does he mean by american love?
can someone explain that to me
snake180025 1 year ago
Moore doing the voice for Rorschach is great
sserpent21 1 year ago
so jealous of his kids at bedtime
KroliggBloodhoof 1 year ago
did moore illustrate the book also????
BinaryPhoenix 1 year ago
@BinaryPhoenix No that was done by Dave Gibbons.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5
k thanks :)
BinaryPhoenix 1 year ago
@BinaryPhoenix
Dave gibbons illustrated watchmen
IchigoNobody 1 year ago
moore sure does a great rorsach voice! xD
Dannyfaye 1 year ago
WTF? if you turn on the transcribed audio 42 seconds in the subtitles have a percent sighn in them, how do you mess up that bad?
oars44 1 year ago
Alan Moore...read me bedtime stories please...
jerkfacejosh13 1 year ago 3
walter kovac is a cool sounding name.
axlrotten1985 1 year ago
I want a Rorscach prequel XD He's just so bad ass
VAMPIRICROCKSTAR 1 year ago
badass rorschach voice is badass
MrAnimeviewer2000 1 year ago
4:00 Win! :D
UselessRambling 1 year ago
i was gonna make a comment about the Rorschach voice but i don't want an angry mob to find me and sacrifice me in the streets. soooo i'll keep it to myself tyvm
wpnace 1 year ago
@wpnace Yeah, 'cause that would totally happen.
TheIndigoEffect 1 year ago
I'm interested to see how a graphic novel focussing in on the Minutemen would go. The details hinted at in Watchmen - Silhoette's sexuality, Mothman's decent into madness and the whole corperate identity of Dollar Bill (created by a bank for it's own protection) would be brilliant, all before a back drop of a slightly skewed 1930s/40s
SimonB198207 1 year ago
how can he call rorchach a nutcase? he was doing somthing while everyone else did nothing
dangel6667 1 year ago
@dangel6667 So did Travis Bickle.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 I dont understand, unless he just called Rorchach a nutcase because he didnt feel the need to go into detail about the charachter still though its disrespect to rorshach.
dangel6667 1 year ago
@dangel6667 Moore pretty well went into all the details of what shaped Rorschach in chapter VI of Watchmen, and I have no problem with him calling Rorschach a nutcase, anymore than I would have with Martin Scorsese calling Travis Bickle a psychopath.
cha5 1 year ago
@dangel6667 In case you haven't noticed most of the superheros in Watchmen have a pretty extreme POV and Moore doesn't really have sympathy for Rorschach's black and white view of the world anymore than he does for Ozymandias's justification for killing off the entire population of NYC in order to advance his utopia vision for the world.
One of Moore's most basic themes in Watchmen is "It's dangerous to have heroes"
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 thank you for pointing that out to me, no I did not realise that....
dangel6667 1 year ago
@dangel6667 Sure thing, One thing about Watchmen is it really
doesn't make for a simple read and it kind of challenges what it means to be a hero.
I think I remember an interview where Moore had mentioned that he felt Dan and Laurie (Nite-Owl & Silk Spectre)
were the most human characters in Watchmen.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Yes I have realized that before about how it challenges what it means to be a hero though I had never imagined that the writer had seen superheros as a very dangerous idea. I had to seen both of them as the most human charachters after awile and realized it was the question of how Adrians plan could have been prevented and not how right he was.
dangel6667 1 year ago
@cha5 And in a chaotic world, Rorschach would probably be the most "normal" character of them all.
Transformers217 1 year ago
@dangel6667 Remember what Dan tells Laurie in the restaurant about the do-gooder trying to help Rorschach: he pushed him down an elevator shaft! There isn't actually much difference between black and white in Rorschachs worldview. The black tends to see more of his dark side is all!
mrkeogh 1 year ago
@mrkeogh He wasn't a do-gooder... he was this A-whole wannabe bad guy, always crossing paths with the watchmen. Trying to make them beat him up.. wasting their time. That's why Rorschach threw him down the elevator... because Rorschach is a "Don't Fuck with Me type of guy". Well, that's how it was in the movie anyway.
LoyalNODZealot 1 year ago
@LoyalNODZealot His name was Captain Carnage and he pretended to be a super-villain just so he could get beaten up,
Dan talking to Laurie
Dan "He tried that with me, only I'd heard about him, so I just walked away.
He follows me down the street...broad daylight right? He's saying "punish me! I'm saying No! Get Lost!
Laurie "HA HA HA! Whatever happened to him?"
Dan "Uh well, he pulled it on Rorschach and Rorschach dropped him down an elevator shaft"
cha5 1 year ago
Alan Moore's Rorchach is a much more somber and brooding, but is amazing all the same.
ModernPhilisophe 1 year ago
Damn, talk about SPOILER ALERT!!!
I'd be pissed if I didn't read the book before watching this.
ChrisGofMMTV 1 year ago
@ChrisGofMMTV meh, it is not like he explains how he dies. There are lots of great works of literature where the audience already knew the outcome. The enjoyment was in appreciating how the characters sink to such desperate extremes, not in being surprised by it. Just look at any Greek tragedy as well as any of the great epic poems. Shoot, even most of the Shakespearean tragedies explain exactly what is going to happen right at the start of the play.
cantecleer 1 year ago
Alan moore is rorschach i knew it!!!!!!!!! Fuck walter krovacs he is not real
rexikluk 1 year ago
Oh SHIT!!!........I'm Rorschach.
OldSmellyCrotch 1 year ago
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make a sequel or give rorschach his own comic
TheJasonrox 1 year ago
Will you settle for Random Guy's Rorschach/Deadpool video?
funniest thing I've seen since Saturday Morning Watchmen.
cha5 1 year ago
@cha5 Aww that's awesome just saw it very funny thanks for suggesting it
TheJasonrox 1 year ago
@TheJasonrox rorshach is dead so how r they going to make a sequal
racinggreg2011 1 year ago
@racinggreg2011 Dr. Manhatten secretly didn't kill Rorschach instead ethier put him in suspended animation somewhere or sent him to the DC universe so he can at least have his own comic and he could live without being compromised
TheJasonrox 1 year ago
hat sounds so awesome to but that dosen't explain the blood u c after rorshach disappears
racinggreg2011 1 year ago
@racinggreg2011 he turns the snow and snow flakes into blood
TheJasonrox 1 year ago
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cha5 1 year ago
@TheJasonrox
No sequel, but I think prequel trades of each member of the crime busters and their careers could be interesting.
I'd love a Comedian novel.
TheHawkdaddy 1 year ago
@TheJasonrox A prequel :D?
VAMPIRICROCKSTAR 1 year ago