so why do they care about the orgies and whatever...it is consensual...uneducated communists....fortunately in Romania there are also educated people..unfortunately almost all of them immigrated already:)
this video is plain unfair orchestrated mud slinging by vested interests within the country. i know for sure they dont use drugs, and they use only ayurvedic aphrodisiacs which are much safer and healthier than viagra. there are some questionable methods in misa, but the members enjoy very high level of physical and mental health. i ama yoga expert from india and i have attended their camps in romania. though they need some fine tuning, they are very genuine people.
If you don't know that they are using drogs that doesn't mean they don't..
They are many more than questionable methods in MISA and many of their members and students sufered because of sexual disease for example.
To see how it is with their mental health read their articles on yogaesoteric about freemasons and aliens for the beginning. Then read about the mental health problems of their Guru.
And concerning the "yoga expert", a real yoga expert wouldn't praise himself.
The aphrodisiacs Bivolaru recommends on one of his websites include Datura (he spells it dhattura). It's an incredibly dangerous, very powerful hallucinogen. Look it up on erowid if you don't believe me.
oops! dathura is a hallucinogen widely used by himalayan tantriks. it is insane to recommend it for aphrodisiac effect.yes it is extremely dangerous if used wrongly. dont know grieg's dosage though.that decides the effect. anyway, the ones i've seen, the sibiu group dont use these things for sure.
You may believe that this video is all mud slinging but in fact the video only scratches the surface of the serious criminal activities that MISA, Natha yoga schools are involved in. You obviously genuinely believe that you know the truth about MISA, but MISA controls its members' access to media very strictly, so I would guess that you never saw the documentary "MISA the dark Side of a Tantric Cult". I would be interested in your opinion of this film
I dont know much about the sect presented in video, but in fact to say, that meditation will lead to psycho-destruction, or that urinotherapy is shit...these are not value argumets.
And sexual orgies? Lokk at the interhet, almost everybody, not only cults do that, and many people want to... Orgies are not dangerous, if all participians agree with free will.
I agree with you that the argumentation against meditation and urinotherapy isn't ok.
I don't know if generally orgies are dangerous or not, that is not my concern, because everybody is free to do what he wants with his life.
The problem is when a so called yoga school is presenting sexual orgies as spiritual enhancing activities, when people are lied and teached to lie their partner or when women are brainwashed to perform in strip bars or on erotic videochat as karma yoga for the big guru.
This I cannot decide. There are many cults and self-proclaimed big gurus in the west. I am always much sceptical about it. More over, if someone claim, thet he has discovered what was meant in original traditions and then mix it with all the rest world religions, like in new age style - this is not good. Although there is no "only way to truth", one has to follow one tradition, to have good base and conrete results, not fantasies.
But it is good to warning people, if there is something wrong.
Of course you are not a yogi. They don't lose their temper when they have no arguments.
Not all the great masters were self intiated, but there were a lot who were like this. I know that. That is no problem.
But, would you be so kind to tell me the name of a few great masters that falsified diplomas so they can say in talk shows that they have diplomas that they are yoga teacher?
hahaha.. i never said i was a yogi. so my temper is my own to do with what i choose! get it !?:) ... that's unlucky for u because i wont be bound by any rules, and yet i know of all the traditions and yoga techniques
i will give u one example. Gurdijeff faked certain papers so that he could get a pass and entrance into the intellectual/political circle of Russian society.
he was a tantric too. tantric masters often use such means when they are up against a sick system... like the Romanian one!
ever wondered why the yogis of india didn't engage in sexual activities, i think this experiment called misa pretty much gives the answer to that question.
OMG, how stupid you must be to believe what Bivolaru is saying :)))
MISA combines different yoga ways with different religions such as Christianity, in this combination a child can see that MISA is a big shit :) but you know, some people just can't use their brain :)
Romanian's seem to have a giant lock on their minds. Maybe you people should actually research urine therapy or the history of yoga before making a news clip about it? I hope the people in that country are not as stupid and uneducated as the people interviewed in this news clip. Join NATO, join the EU, let the governments steal your culture and choke you to death. Idiots. Wake up already.
Whoever made this film ... they are living in the middle ages. You speak about things you have absolutely no knowledge. Romanian authorities! You still have a lot to catch up to the third millenium. But I understand you had a strong past of dictatorship and you could not learn and practice open thinking and wisdom for long time. If you really honestly look into yourself you know that so much of what is said in this film is your FEAR from the unknown and maybe a higher form of life on Earth.
I sent you a link
I would value your opinion, when you have had time to check it out
shaktifiredancer 1 year ago
dear shakti fire dancer, i would like to see MISA the dark side of the tantrik cult video. kindly send me the link
yogeshvarkarthik 1 year ago
Fetite mici! are licenta!
blanoz 1 year ago
ala ce dracu comenteaza englezii la un reportaj in limba romana?:))
mihaelamika 2 years ago
so why do they care about the orgies and whatever...it is consensual...uneducated communists....fortunately in Romania there are also educated people..unfortunately almost all of them immigrated already:)
dacianr 2 years ago
this video is plain unfair orchestrated mud slinging by vested interests within the country. i know for sure they dont use drugs, and they use only ayurvedic aphrodisiacs which are much safer and healthier than viagra. there are some questionable methods in misa, but the members enjoy very high level of physical and mental health. i ama yoga expert from india and i have attended their camps in romania. though they need some fine tuning, they are very genuine people.
yogeshvarkarthik 2 years ago
If you don't know that they are using drogs that doesn't mean they don't..
They are many more than questionable methods in MISA and many of their members and students sufered because of sexual disease for example.
To see how it is with their mental health read their articles on yogaesoteric about freemasons and aliens for the beginning. Then read about the mental health problems of their Guru.
And concerning the "yoga expert", a real yoga expert wouldn't praise himself.
mahacutra 2 years ago
The aphrodisiacs Bivolaru recommends on one of his websites include Datura (he spells it dhattura). It's an incredibly dangerous, very powerful hallucinogen. Look it up on erowid if you don't believe me.
thetruthaboutbjb 2 years ago
oops! dathura is a hallucinogen widely used by himalayan tantriks. it is insane to recommend it for aphrodisiac effect.yes it is extremely dangerous if used wrongly. dont know grieg's dosage though.that decides the effect. anyway, the ones i've seen, the sibiu group dont use these things for sure.
yogeshvarkarthik 2 years ago
@yogeshvarkarthik
You may believe that this video is all mud slinging but in fact the video only scratches the surface of the serious criminal activities that MISA, Natha yoga schools are involved in. You obviously genuinely believe that you know the truth about MISA, but MISA controls its members' access to media very strictly, so I would guess that you never saw the documentary "MISA the dark Side of a Tantric Cult". I would be interested in your opinion of this film
shaktifiredancer 1 year ago
I dont know much about the sect presented in video, but in fact to say, that meditation will lead to psycho-destruction, or that urinotherapy is shit...these are not value argumets.
And sexual orgies? Lokk at the interhet, almost everybody, not only cults do that, and many people want to... Orgies are not dangerous, if all participians agree with free will.
gyalpo1 2 years ago
I agree with you that the argumentation against meditation and urinotherapy isn't ok.
I don't know if generally orgies are dangerous or not, that is not my concern, because everybody is free to do what he wants with his life.
The problem is when a so called yoga school is presenting sexual orgies as spiritual enhancing activities, when people are lied and teached to lie their partner or when women are brainwashed to perform in strip bars or on erotic videochat as karma yoga for the big guru.
mahacutra 2 years ago
This I cannot decide. There are many cults and self-proclaimed big gurus in the west. I am always much sceptical about it. More over, if someone claim, thet he has discovered what was meant in original traditions and then mix it with all the rest world religions, like in new age style - this is not good. Although there is no "only way to truth", one has to follow one tradition, to have good base and conrete results, not fantasies.
But it is good to warning people, if there is something wrong.
gyalpo1 2 years ago
what a dumb video Mahacunt!
people all over the world are ALREADY in a state of brainwashing from the media, and a robotic lifestyle from the way our lives are lived!
yoga tries to awaken people to recognize this fact.
CT2507 2 years ago
People all over the world who heard about yoga, yama and niyama, know that a real yogi, a real yoga master doesn't lie.
They also can make their own opinion about a self intitled yoga teacher and about a so called yoga school fonded using false documents.
They can understand what kind of yogi you are reading your " arguments".
mahacutra 2 years ago
listen MahaPussy... im no yogi ok!... so first of all u can forget all about criticizing the yoga school through me!
second of all. All masters there ever was, told lies because the pupils cant handle the truth straight up!
u would WISH for people to make up their minds about self initiated yoga teachers wouldn't u? :)... and preferably to your advantage.
All big masters were self initiated... take the example of Ramakrishna, or Budha, or Ramana Maharshi. All lineages must start somewhere!
CT2507 2 years ago
Of course you are not a yogi. They don't lose their temper when they have no arguments.
Not all the great masters were self intiated, but there were a lot who were like this. I know that. That is no problem.
But, would you be so kind to tell me the name of a few great masters that falsified diplomas so they can say in talk shows that they have diplomas that they are yoga teacher?
mahacutra 2 years ago
hahaha.. i never said i was a yogi. so my temper is my own to do with what i choose! get it !?:) ... that's unlucky for u because i wont be bound by any rules, and yet i know of all the traditions and yoga techniques
i will give u one example. Gurdijeff faked certain papers so that he could get a pass and entrance into the intellectual/political circle of Russian society.
he was a tantric too. tantric masters often use such means when they are up against a sick system... like the Romanian one!
CT2507 2 years ago
ever wondered why the yogis of india didn't engage in sexual activities, i think this experiment called misa pretty much gives the answer to that question.
Greatdane811 2 years ago
because they were afraid of having their dicks chopped off by society!
CT2507 2 years ago
OMG, how stupid you must be to believe what Bivolaru is saying :)))
MISA combines different yoga ways with different religions such as Christianity, in this combination a child can see that MISA is a big shit :) but you know, some people just can't use their brain :)
intermose 3 years ago
hahaha.. and u are one of those who CAN use their brains!? :))
your argument seems to be that misa is just a big shit!... thats very good. did u think of that yourself, or did u get help!?
CT2507 2 years ago
Romanian's seem to have a giant lock on their minds. Maybe you people should actually research urine therapy or the history of yoga before making a news clip about it? I hope the people in that country are not as stupid and uneducated as the people interviewed in this news clip. Join NATO, join the EU, let the governments steal your culture and choke you to death. Idiots. Wake up already.
seldomorn 3 years ago
Whoever made this film ... they are living in the middle ages. You speak about things you have absolutely no knowledge. Romanian authorities! You still have a lot to catch up to the third millenium. But I understand you had a strong past of dictatorship and you could not learn and practice open thinking and wisdom for long time. If you really honestly look into yourself you know that so much of what is said in this film is your FEAR from the unknown and maybe a higher form of life on Earth.
SUNKOVICS 3 years ago 2