Nitrous Q&A

[johannesmyhr]

Hi. Have been watching a lot of your videos, and i must say, they are really cool.

I have a couuple of questions on the nitrous bottle-pressure part of this vid. If you fill the bottle to 900 psi and run it, the pressure will not be the same the next run, or the run after that. would this be causing it to run inconsistent numbers due to a fatter and fatter tuneup. I heat mine up to over the point where it should be, and purge them down after the burnout, making them have 1000 psi every time.

[groutaone]

@johannesmyhr To make a nitrous system deadly consistant, heating the bottle to the same pressure before each run is best, this vid is for entry level guys that just want to get it working, I dont think guys brand new to nitrous should be playing with bottle pressure as its easy to forget the blanket is on and way over heat the bottle. A nitrous system will work very well without a heater right till the bottle is empty, hope that helps, thanks for watching

[500bigbore]

@groutaone Actually with the bottle heater you can't maintain pressure either, it can get bottle pressure optimum before a pass, that is all. Using a product like the NANO Nitrous system will constantly maintain bottle pressure by replacing the used product with Nitrogen. The Nano system is thee only way to maintain a constant bottle pressure while product is being used.

[Powarlator]

Very nice I like you as a person. A very Innovative way to fire up the Nitrous!

[groutaone]

@Powarlator Thanks bud, I appreciate that

[zeekdavis11]

oh! im doing an engine rebuild...like complete overhaul of my car this spring. can you make a Q and A on wiring? and fuel systems? my dad says wiring is just "plug in play" but i wanna know a little more! Thanks!

[groutaone]

@zeekdavis11 I may have what you need but in two videos, one is called automotive wireing and soldering and another called nitrous Q & A

[zeekdavis11]

@groutaone thanks mate, the wiring vid helped! this video was useful as well!

[TheDieselStop]

What about wet & dry systems?

[groutaone]

@TheDieselStop Ah yes, another video of material right there, thanks for the idea. Wet is when fuel (gasoline) is added into the intake by opening a solenoid at the same time the nitrous solenoid opens. Dry systems rely on the engines fuel injection computer to detect a lean condition when only a nitrous solenoid opens and counter by injecting more gas to make the mix correct, this process happens in a milisecond or so

[TheDieselStop]

@groutaone Thanks for the reply.

[sickone1234545]

do you have any videos of you using the nitrous ?

[groutaone]

@sickone1234545 Yes I do, its called my firebirds best run yet, had low fuel pressure so it was not smooth like it should be but still fast

[RicerEater1978]

Still unsure about how fuel pressure regulators work. I have replaced one on my tbi system, but I'm unsure as to how a tiny thing can control the fuel pressure or what else is involved and how it controls pressure.

[The80boxcoupe]

man o man !!!

[kmac340]

Hello groutaone I really enjoy your vids, yes I like the info on NOS hook up and what you have on the the shut off switch. sure glad you have a you tube page

[lee1kawasaki1]

its been a while for the buggy, are you going to suprise us with something?

[groutaone]

@lee1kawasaki1 Mwa ha ha ha ha (slowly rubbing hands together)

[ferebeescott211]

I think his questions generated from watching Fast and Furious. I'm not talking down on anyone but for someone who is just starting out with nitrous watching that movie will confuse you severely. In the movie they reach max speed and then hit the nitrous to go faster. It doesnt work that way max speed is max speed you just get there faster with nitrous

[sweet1963bug]

Great job on the vid man. I really like these kind of videos. You are a gifted teacher of sorts. Keep it up!

[groutaone]

@sweet1963bug Thanks my friend

[Futurensen]

Groutaone - "Just like wikipedia" :P

[josh012345]

search up sloppy machnics , i forget wht the chanelle name is but they have lots of videos on nitrous.

[LegitVisionz]

lawl not a motor. its an engine. justa pet peve of mine

a motor is electrical EX: rotating fan, an Engine is a gas powered piece of metal that converts fuel to motion

[groutaone]

@LegitVisionz !00% correct, your comment needs a few thumbs up

[magna59]

I'm starting to think they launched Apollo 11 with less of a control system ..... and i'm sure the first 1/8 terminal speed was not up to yours. Great vidio..... keep up the good work.

[groutaone]

@magna59 Thanks, lol, not sure, anyone out there know what a drag car and a space shuttle would pull for G's?

[gabbermaikel]

love these video's explaining things about youre cars. Someone that really knows what he is doing won't be affraid to share is knowledge. But if a tuner dosn't want to tell what he is doing then he probably dosn't know what he is doing or he does only the easy things that everyone can do if they hear how to do it. But you share what you know so that others could maybe do the same.

[groutaone]

@gabbermaikel Thanks, I kind of enjoyed doing this vid, may make some more Q&A type vids

[gabbermaikel]

@groutaone that would be nice.

[MASEK360]

Oh. Never mind lol

[MASEK360]

No wife perfect life

[heliarche]

Just wondering, if you manually hit the nitrous, does it just go full throttle without you hitting the gas, or can you still control it?

[groutaone]

@heliarche The power increase is the same with the steering wheel button or the carb switch, I can control it, next year I want to get some better nitrous runs in

[kmac340]

Hello How do you and what do you wire the low rpm NOS too

[groutaone]

@kmac340 You mean the rpm window switch?

[christosGTAIV]

you should put nitrous on ur cr 500 and blow up her little engine

[groutaone]

@christosGTAIV Might make for some good video but it wont make me smile much

[mrmatt2525able]

i watched this then wanted to RITZ crackers, love the video man, now i know about nitrous, thanks bud

[groutaone]

@mrmatt2525able Thanks for watching my friend

[mrmatt2525able]

@groutaone - thank you from making these awsome videos man, they are great, keep doing what your doing, it is awsome

[edzgarage]

Good info Buddy. New song posted...

[groutaone]

@edzgarage Had a listen, you guys are rockin it again

[edzgarage]

@groutaone Thanks! 

[zeekdavis11]

so do you use that button for purging?

[groutaone]

@zeekdavis11 I have, but now my purge button is elsewhere

[sugerbear520]

good video

[79Lancer]

Nice video... Makes it pretty tempting to add juice on my next engine build.

[noahlyden17]

hey groutaone i got a 6 cyl dakota that NEEDS nitrous i was just gonna put a little tank in the glove box and rig it up to the carb and use a air valve to turn it on. thing is i dont want more than 50 shot not full out nitrous how can i regulate this

[groutaone]

@noahlyden17 I would stongly recomend getting a whole kit, some will go down to 50 hp

[170turbo]

Great vid, didnt know about the fuel pressure switch.

The only thing I wouldnt agree on is going on how much nitrous you have in the tank, I've seen plenty of tanks have over half left but not have enough pressure (hence bottle warmers etc) I think its worth monitoring the bottle pressure.

But hey everyones different :-)

[groutaone]

@170turbo Hmm, interesting. The guys with trouble could be jetted a tad rich on fuel or just the bottle refill was not done right, bottle warmers can come in handy at times

[Gasser4x4]

Good and interesting vid! I would love to see that bird in action!

[BESTBBQDUDE]

Good advice and no BS thanks.

[Rasd4Metta]

Some good info about NOS!!

[roastingpeanuts]

Love the video!!

[IHcubcadet]

Good stuff. should help a lot of people...

[VMATT500C]

Cool vid.

[rekjavicxxx]

Excellent job bro! Really glad you decided to go with, and demonstrate the window switch method (along with the other parameters in place). I see so many guys that just install nitrous direct and just juice the motor with a switch...SMH.

Another good variable to mention is the amount of HP you get from a certain pill at full, and then how much effective HP is made as the bottle progressively is used. A nano kit installed will maintain max HP shot to bottle being empty...

[groutaone]

@rekjavicxxx Its way to easy to blow stuff up, paying for it is not so easy though, thanks for your input here.

[hp11208]

nice

[kary1982v6]

I love all the safety. this was a great explanation .. I knew nothing of the NOS system but now I would feel like I knew the direction to go with the design of the system...

[MrEvilronald]

Interesting stuff as always. Today nitro, tomorrow Flux capasitor!

[groutaone]

@MrEvilronald maybe even a neutron deflector

[rubypuppy7]

why do you run a carb? you should do a video on carb vs fuel injection!

[groutaone]

@rubypuppy7 Carbs work great for drag and its the cheapest way to feed a lot of power, I dont have much for fuel injection but would like to do some more fuel related videos

[y2kxj]

arggg.. i hate those hobbs pressure swiches, we got them in our equipment at work and they can't take the heat and fail regularly but blowing out the rubber plug and spraying oil and fuel every where...... i enjoyed the video...tho

[groutaone]

@y2kxj That would make for a sucky day, so far mine have worked well but who knows whats next

[groutaone]

@y2kxj Just curious what kind of temps seem to make them fail?

[lee1kawasaki1]

intresting video groutaone



[rynoride]

Oh....one question. Can you turn the bottle off and run without no2 and not harm anything? Or do you have to turn of some comp chip components as well? Meaning....once your set up for no2, do you have the choice to run with or without?

[groutaone]

@rynoride Thats correct, I can deactivate the system, close the bottle and just run on the engine

[rynoride]

That's pretty interesting man! I was always curious about no2 and all of it's workings. I knew it was more than solenoids, bottle and switch. Good to see it broken down like this. Great job, bud!

[FMXPatrik]

nice vid man :)

[WhackTheWax]

very interesting

[500passwords]

good stuff as always buddy :)

thumbs up from 500

[groutaone]

@500passwords Thanks man

[MRSROCKINROBIN]

Awesome vid!!!! You answered a lot of questions that baffle people about NOS.

Have you had the car on the track??? If so what did it run and at what length??? 1/8 or 1/4 mile.

Merrie-Merrie

[groutaone]

@MRSROCKINROBIN Yes I race it, I do have some vids of it on the track you could find on my channel from last summer, it has gone 5:18 @ 132mph 1/8th with this engine

[greggo93]

love theese videos!

[lefty0mtl]

Nitrous 101!! Thanks for the great info Groutaone.

[2fingerproductions]

Sweet Car!

[TheTuntso]

good stuff. I knew something about installing nitrous system, maybe putting one on my dads lawnmower! ;)

[beefystik]

Awesome tutorial. So... that manual switch... How was it done in the 'olden' days before all the electronics? By ear? Tach light? Why do you have the manual switch? You've got me curious. Great stuff as always Groutaone.

[groutaone]

@beefystik Manual switch is like a manual over ride for some testing and stuff, not recomended for someone just starting off with nos

[mmz77]

Nice! How much does the firebird weigh?

[groutaone]

@mmz77 I believe its 2175 lbs without the bottle

[gassolean]

your attention to detail is flawless

[OpeiGrafikka]

On Nitrous Oxide:

Nitrous, NOS or N2O is basically compressed oxygen and nitrogen, it's use is to increase the air density and oxygen delivered to the engine. Nitrogen has the handy attribute of being inert, and acts as a stabiliser for the oxygen.

Fantastic vids groutaone, keep 'em coming! :)

[groutaone]

@OpeiGrafikka Thanks bud

[ziggassedup]

Good vid buddy...Seeing as you are in a cold place in the world,do you use a blanket for the bottle and do you have telemetry system.?...Oh,..as for the viewer who asked....I see a manifold explosion coming up soon...lol

[groutaone]

@ziggassedup Well you are right about being cold however we usually have 20 to 30c on race days and in the car it gets fairly hot, have not used a heater on the bottle so far

[omarsuarez73]

Great vid man!

[wtbm123]

I would love nitrous on my mud truck. Would it not be a good idea for safety to run a bell housing guard or a blanket if stepping up to nitrous.I know some of the boggs i have ran at make you have one or you do not get to run.

[groutaone]

@wtbm123 Yes the driver should always be protected from a powerful engine, easy to get hurt real bad

[tedhaze1]

like that fuel system like these vids

[OpeiGrafikka]

Another nice vid!

A few more bits about NO2: Nitrous is inert, not flammable (doesn't blow up like in the movies). It's essentially injected compressed air. Like a turbo but cold and dense air, no drain on the engine.

Used in moderation it's actually better for your engine than a turbo. Far less heat management issues. Very important to have a strong fuel delivery capable of maintaining your healthy ratios, most issues with nitrous are from pre-det and 'leaning out' from poor fuel supply.

[aLexOFWGKTA]

Really loved this video!

[traxxluver]

Were you still having cut out problems? I was thinking you could always put a fuel cell up front and have the pump up front for more direct flow and less area for pressure loss

[groutaone]

@traxxluver Yes I was, so I was shifting manually and then it did not happen, still need to solve the glitch

[rivercrestcolts55]

every time i watch your videos I learn somethin' !

[318Captain]

I LOVE that RPM switch...

Ive always wanted a "go baby go" button in the LTD. I think its possible now.

The main problem with people blowing their engines from nitrous is too much RPM and/or too little fuel right? If I have those covered...it SHOULD be non-detrimental to the motor right? Speaking of a 100hp shot on a built ford 400.

[groutaone]

@318Captain Mostly activating at too low rpm will do it, incorrect timing, low octane fuel, and fuel pressure are causes of engine failure

[318Captain]

@groutaone Thanks man. Ill be sure to look into those even further before I even think about hooking up this bottle.

[yittymitty11]

bloody*

[yittymitty11]

bloddy internet why are you so slow -- i'll have to come back tommorow 

[805ROADKING]

Good stuff Buddy!! Interesting video!!☺

[groutaone]

@805ROADKING You are always at the front of the pack when my video comes out, Thanks bud

[MrCarlosCruz1]

I know this is a dumb question but do you think it'd be damaging to put a nitrous kit on and old chevy 250 6 cylender with 150000 miles on it? like do you think i could bend a rod or something? the engine is completely stock with the aception of a holley 390 cfm carb

[groutaone]

@MrCarlosCruz1 Everything in moderation my friend, a 50 horse shot shouldnt hurt it

[Bret3030]

@MrCarlosCruz1 i put a 100 shot on a 96 4cyl accord non vtec with 170,000k, as long as you give it enough fuel it should be alright, but @groutaone is right in saying moderation. work ur way up. the only problem i had is the timing belt broke but i should have changed that berfore i put the kit on. its alot of fun but last time i bought nitrous it was 60 dollars for a 10lb bottle and the bigger the shot the faster it runs out.

[BESTBBQDUDE]

@MrCarlosCruz1 Yo Bro Swap the 250 1-6 for a 350 V8 It will cost you less in the long run for more power. save them pennys and put the nitrous on a V8. Back to the 250 1-6 though, they respond very well to a nice lumpy cam and porting and polishing both the intake and exhaust or just do the intake and run headers (headers are better) but still port the flange to match the head a bit. BTW 250's are real easy but expensive to build up and if you must have nitrous put some forged pistons in it.

[MrTransam7]

great video, you also taught me a thing or to that i didn't know thank you for the upload

[saleen737]

Any idea what that car runs in the 1/4 mile? I don't know too much about 1/8th mile racing but I'm guessing your 4.19 bracket is pretty quick!

[saleen737]

@saleen737 4.56 bracket, excuse me.

[groutaone]

@saleen737 The rule of thumb is multiply 1/8th mile time by 1.55 and its fairly close to 1/4 mile time, this car has gone 4:50s but with more engine and better southern tracks, right now this engine with a little spray has gone 5:18 1/8th

[alpinestar7272]

@groutaone so you think your car would run in the 7's-8 seconds? thats pretty quick!

[groutaone]

@alpinestar7272 Yes its a deep eight second car for sure

[shufllingboy]

ahahah sickl

[LeMieux250]

Thought this was gonna be a buggy vid :P but im not complaining!