Message to Anonymous, About Anonymous

[camfred813]

The hell with all you anonimous junkies

[magicwwe]

We are NOT anonymous

We are the gamers

We don't care about your war

We just want to play online

If we don't get what we want soon...

Expect us.

[xAnnihilatiion]

@magicwwe Anonymous didn't bring down the PSN dumb ass.

[TLKGuitarMan]

@magicwwe Sony fooled you good kid

[Alexc3217]

... This is pretty impressive.

[masagrad]

expect us.

[wetheanonymous]

we do not forgive

we do not forget

anonymous has no leaders

stay true anonymous

[theprodigy2186]

What the hell is white knights and black ops?? Please tell me people are not splitting up anonymous into two groups. That's what fucked up America!

Anonymous is ONE.

Anonymous is MANY.

Anonymous is all of us and none of us.

EXPECT US

[FactionalSky]

lulz!

[Renix4]

you are anonymous, everyone is anonymous, anonymous has no members or leaders... it has nothing to do with scientology its not against it specifically. its against and for many things. all decided by your and everyones judgement

[cyboargninja]

repulsive. your cult's days are numbered. we will bring you down for the things you have done.

[Renix4]

Anonymous cannot be exposed, because you are anonymous, everyone is anonymous, anonymous has no members or leaders... so this is retarted. its not a cult. its not about /against religion, its against everything,

[gairfame]

we know of your attempts at slander and liable.

down vote now if you believe scientology must be stopped!

[BladedFish]

The word "your" used in this context and a line by line analysation would reveal to any common youtube viewer that this video was created by the church of scientology to frame anonymous.

Also,

To the author of this video:

Your crime against anonymous has been notified.

Anonymous never forgives.

Anonymous never forgets.

Expect us.

[Lydianon]

chanology, hehe

[sadriaens]

this is PR downstat

[anon6901]

this is Scientology propaganda

DOWNVOTE!!!!

[Miracululz]

No, its not, faggot.

[nnymslgn]

my fellow anon, the message of this video is true. none of us can talk for all of us. the so called "internet hate machine" is still alive. don't think of it as a "hate" machine though. to me it's just total indifference to anything and playing around with stereotypes. the hate machine is really an "anything goes" machine (except CP). as such it is fertile ground for thought and noble causes like taking down $cilon or creating catmemes. think of it as the dungheap on which flowers will grow.

[OMFGWTFSTFULOL]

You must be new. Please lurk more or GTFO!

[anonymousassasin1]

Moralfags are the danger not newfags

[OMFGWTFSTFULOL]

Holy shit people still care about this? Also most newfags are moralfags, and it also depends on the morals of the moralfag. The Scientology moralfags brought popularity to the *Chans, bringing a flood of newfags(new recruits for the moralfags.), and killing the *Chans with there cancer. Also sage.

[anonymousassasin1]

I dont blame anyone,and i know anon is in the right track,although i cant stand moralfags,they have done the job,we have to admit it.

Oldfags or newfags,if you are looking for cancer,the cancer is CO$.

insted of whining,we should be working.

keep on target.

[OMFGWTFSTFULOL]

Wait what? What job? What work? What target? I assume you're new to Anon. Just judging by what you speak of makes it clear you don't really know what Anon is.

[Aragond68]

They did not listen to anonymous.

There is no job

There is no working

There is no target

There is no Co$

There is only lulz.

[OMFGWTFSTFULOL]

Who the hell is they?

[Aragond68]

"They" = you were replying them

They who believe anonymous is a mission statement.

'Salright. I'm +1ing you

[OMFGWTFSTFULOL]

Okay, I miss read. Thanks Anon.

[ry9999]

Moral fag.

[legionnaireanonymous]

Operation reconnect epic win today! my name is legion; we are many, good and ugly. Hail white knight.

[NeoDeterminist]

We have adapted, We understand now that peaceful protest and informing the public will stop the Scientologists. The Black Ops are more our founders than a co-existing agency. The same way America's founders began as a militant group.

[watashiwahjolan]

I believe he is refering to all the wird threats that people posing as anon's have done and the fact they make anon caus look worse than it is. plain and simmple chanology had my support. they hid information and charge for it and also rob people of their assets. so scientology is as evil as any cult but they have lawyers.

[DoctorTDurden]

Actually wtf counts as black ops and why this moral/legal BS? Infiltrating their orgs and stealing a shitload of protected files isn't legal, but what if it exposes SnowWhite/Freakout ops they kept secret? Or "hacking" into their servers and wiping it to get rid of personal information they're Fair Gaming people with? How about Co$ using legal tactics to litigate your ass into bankruptcy? Morals=/=legality of tactics otherwise we wouldn't have civil rights movements and revolts through history.

[Sanksion]

Anonymous can´t try to play fair against the Church.

Anonymous will win.

Expect us.

[ihateracists125]

Put a thumbs down on this by mistake.

[DavidMiscarriage1]

This man speaks to truth!

[samwu22128]

This guy is right. There is more to Anonymous than what most people think (btards, insurgents, furries, white knights, moralfags etc, etc...The list goes on)

[Armlace]

True, the hate machine is still active BUT that doesnt mean cos didnt fabricated the worst threats ("Elite anonymous" lololololol). The only reason why anonymous is being "good" and taking legal actions this time is because thats what must be done to WIN. Most anons are still trolling other targets as if nothing changed and thats cause nothing has changed at all, anonymous is not "good", anonymous is jsut doing what must be done to win.

[ForeverEternity0]

Though the initial momentum of the Project was thanks to the Black Ops, the White Knights now hold the key to winning this: we've gained mainstream exposure, and have a moral high ground to keep. Be that as it may, prank calls and black faxes do not equal bomb threats and threats of violence. Website defacement is now an impossibility, so the Black Ops need to find new ways of playful keeping the CoS busy. We can only endure if we strike a balance between lulz and srs bsnss.

[Alkirin]

There really shouldn't be any infighting here.

The White Knights and Black Ops have existed since long before scientology, and this is not the first time that either have banded together for a common goal.

However, due to the scrutiny Anon faces, they need to work together a bit more. The W.K. need to stop drawing attention to the B.O., and the B.O. needs to refrain from compromising the efforts of the W.K.

The W.K. need to keep focused on the Scifags, and the B.O. need to troll someone else.

[burrowowl]

Drawing a comparison between the actions of the Scilon menace to the actions of Anonymous is fair. To consider a naive misrepresentation of the motives of Anonymous as equivalent to the misrepresentations of the Scientologists is simply not accurate. To draw some form of moral equivalence between Scientology and Anonymous is probably fair; Anonymous is at least in part an amoral criminal with strong sociopathic tendencies.

[five666666]

No. Either this is a member of the " church ", or an Anonymous' member who refuses to grow up.

[bigkr88]

It's not about growing up, its about staying true to the roots of Anonymous, and a distinct difference of views about what is effective and what is not. As a point in fact, if you notice how our White Knights flood into scilon videos and post comments (if they're not disabled) and flagging/1 starring it in mass are tactics that Anonymous used multiple times against weeaboos and furries on youtube and elsewhere.

[femtoguts]

Unfortunately, he is probably an elder of anonymous and is speaking the truth.

[DoctorTDurden]

pffft, some is true but the noisy IHM faction is filled with newfags from after Faux11 and don't understand that INTERNET HATE MACHINE WAS A JOKE. Anons who take "Hate Machine" seriously need to be knocked down a peg like any arrogant attention whore. The oldfags who're like that are more annoying than moralfags & add the same self-importance most anon laughs at. Fake threats of violence aren't black ops, they're retarded impulses that gets them v& and fucks us over. DDoS/blackfax was great b4.

[DescartesActivist]

Everyone matures at different rates

[soulcatcher78]

B.O.O./H.O.O.

Black Op Error?

[freespeechorbust]

Thumbs down.

[AnonMomAnon]

this vid is fail.

i don't have enough character count to respond to this.

i'll just say this: you have not done the movement a service with this video.

[YetAnotherAnony]

I agree with you that it's vital we're honest, even when the truth isn't what we want to hear, but whilst there's some valid points in the video, it's main argument falls flat.

It states that the Scilon's "Anonymous facts" DVD is actually a fair representation of what's going on "undercover", and our supposed refusal to acknowledge Anon "black ops", means that we're doing exactly the same as the people in the "church". This is totally false.

[bigkr88]

some of the stuff is going on, but scientology is greatly exaggerating it. Our 'black ops' are nowhere NEAR as bad as scientology's atrocities. ours are mere pranks, not trying to ruin people's lives.

[YetAnotherAnony]

I agree with you that it's vital we're honest, even when the truth isn't what we want to hear, but whilst there's some valid points in the video, it's main argument falls flat.

It states that the Scilon's "Anonymous facts" DVD is actually a fair representation of what's going on "undercover", and our supposed refusal to acknowledge Anon "black ops", means that we're doing exactly the same as the people in the "church". This is totally false.

[YetAnotherAnony]

For the "church". there's a wealth of SOLID 3RD PARTY EVIDENCE supporting the fact that the "church's" crimes are all too real. To my knowledge there's nothing that even comes close to supporting the "Anonymous-Facts" claims, and given the huge numbers of supposed threats/emails/etc. it seems astounding that NO-ONE has been brought to account. At the end of the day. we can only ever represent what we know to be true through personal experience or solid evidence, and at the moment there's none.

[jediscar]

Not funny. You need to try harder or GTFO.

[Roswell73]

There is no "I" in anonymous. GTFO Scifag.

[Interscene]

I'm 80% certain your a scifag myself.

So much fail.

When this video turns up in HD-DVD quality on the next scientologist propaganda video we'll know for certain.

[Bilauri]

ROFLMAO

do you even know what black ops are?

so...much...fail

[Anonmaly]

I have grown to accustomed to my position as a White Knight, but what I haven't forgotten, and what none should forget, is that Project Chanology was not created for justice, it was created for the lulz. Destroying the organization was considered lulz worthy, and it still is. However, in this persuit many have found something actually worth fighting for. Do what you will, both sides, but remember the lulz!

[Jaynusofsinope]

obviously not anonymous. Video lacks humour. Which anonymous is all about.

[LegionnaireofAnon]

Excellently said.

Freedom, true and absolute freedom, is capable of both great benevolence -and- great malevolence. Anonymous is capable of both, and denying what isn't PR friendly is exactly what the CoS does. If you are going to stand for truth, you have to accept it.

[Anomnomnomamous]

ok, the faxes and prank calls came from us. The stupid bomb threat video was a CoS plant though.

[Nicholai420]

The scifags are trying to divide and conquer. 1 star for fail.

[Pudwait]

Okaaaaay, after listening to the whole of the video, i mustchange my statement to: Disregard that, i suck cocks.

[Pudwait]

Hmm your rating says otherwise. Whatever you do is your own thing, thow.

[luxsaturnine]

I'm a member at enturb AND cosRelent. We're still haet machine. Get over it.

also FROSTED BUTTS

[YetAnotherAnony]

Ur message could have been framed in a more helpful manner, but I think that the point you're make is interesting. You're wrong to suggest that "Anonymous" hasn't changed since Proj Chanology started. Given the number of new individuals who've chosen to work anonymously, it was inevitable that the character of what's perceived as Anonymous would change, and it has. However ultimately, each of us acts anonymously on an individual basis and makes their own moral decisions. This will never change.

[YetAnotherAnony]

Ur message could have been framed in a more helpful manner, but I think that the point you're make is interesting. You're wrong to suggest that "Anonymous" hasn't changed since Proj Chanology started. Given the number of new individuals who've chosen to work anonymously, it was inevitable that the character of what's perceived as Anonymous would change, and it has. However ultimately, each of us acts anonymously on an individual basis and makes their own moral decisions. This will never change.

[xzen667]

I'm torn because a lot of what is said is true however no solution is suggested. If asked you can't just say "Yeah the threating phone calls came from Anons." The best you could say if asked is that Some individuals have made threating comments or phone calls and that you as individual disapprove of such behavior/tactics or that you do. If your one of the ones that do you might as well just slap anyone genuinely interested in the cause and tell them to GTFO.

[Stonehawk]

I agree with the message, but the delivery is too crude. I don't think we've reached a clear enough consensus on this and it needs to be refined more. Divisive message is divisive :(

[4n0npr0p]

fail newfag is fail full of fail.

[TheSpiderMind]

And if you believed this, why would you post it?

Assuming the truth of the matter asserted, it would obviously be the best course to ignore the truth-- it helps anonymous as a collective to do so. Ergo, your video and speech is not in the best interest of anonymous... all sides of anonymous.

[bigkr88]

But it is in the best interests for anons to hear this. He makes a good point. The White Knights and the Black Ops are both Anonymous. None of us are as cruel as all of us. None of us are as kind as all of us either. To deny that the Black Ops occur is asinine; they occur whether you accept it or not. Scientology does exaggerate them, don't get me wrong. But we need to realize that Anonymous works as a collective, and that each Anon will continue to act as they see fit, no matter what.

[Amperture]

"Assuming the truth of the matter asserted, it would obviously be the best course to ignore the truth"

Gee, I wonder what other group does that.

[AnnoOnymous]

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

For Chan anon and Whitekinightfags. Seriously, stop.

[jec0683]

you do not speak for anon

[Amperture]

You clearly haven't heard the entire message.

This message not TRYING to speak "for" anon.

It's simply conveying a few facts (the Hate Machine still exists), and an opinion (denying it exists is probably the greatest threat to Chanology.

[NotSoOldHippy]

Fail.

[tokumei9k]

Valid points.

Anonymous is not /b/'s personal army.

Also, cocks.

[rametarin]

It's true, you know.

However, it's also true that your layperson won't understand the significance of the White Ops not knowing what the Black Ops are doing. They either believe that Anonymous is a well organized, personal collective/borderline terrorist group, or that they're all accountable for the actions of a few.

By making this distinction, you're enabling ignorant people to dismiss the actions of them all as the actions in league with the Black Ops.

You mean well by being honest, but...

[rametarin]

You did not argue against the phony Bomb Threats. Which is dishonest.

There is no proof Anonymous didn't make those bomb threats.. however, more importantly, you neglected to mention that there was no evidence that they did.

The Internet Hate Machine is vindictive and vengeful, but it's not stupid, or ignorant. And by stating these things to those unfamiliar with Anonymous, you're unintentionally providing some credibility to their accusation.

[Redimus]

I'm fairly sure that the internet has more then enough morons to provide good odds for bomb threats in this situation.

In all honesty. if I could get my hands on a yellow van... Guess where it would be parked right now.

As much as it might hurt the cause. This video is only truth, and should be five stared and put right up on jewtube's front page.

[brundontfreeze000]

he's stating that anonymous... well is.... a um.... everyone has freedom of choice... freedom to do what you want to do... even if its consider taboo or wrong...

white knights and black ops hate each other.. its true and its a fact... but it doesnt hide the facts that anonymous itself is baiscly ying and yang

[MomAnon21008]

Isn't the whole point that we are individuals who share ONLY an opposition to the "church" of scientology, for our own reasons? I have no idea what other people worldwide are doing, particularly online or at home.

I will not protect anyone doing illegal actions and my hands are clean. The pranks, or "black ops" deny you the protection of moral high ground, give CoS victim status and hurt others' efforts.

Proof that there is no "group" but disassociated people acting as individuals.

[Redimus]

I love you.

[MomAnon21008]

Don't get me wrong... I heartily disapprove of those "black ops", because they make it harder for ME and "white knights" to be heard in media. It kind of irks me that this guy is speaking for "Anonymous," but who knows? Maybe he's one of the original guys, so I don't want to steal his name. I'm just anonymous, not "Anonymous." I reject the notion of "Anonymous" with a capital A, because as a label, it's a lie. There is no group, or only very small ones not necessarily sharing goals or methods.

[Redimus]

Anonymous is the internet. There was never a private selective group of hackers on steroids with a prerequisite for membership.

It was never a limited collective of human beings.

Anonymous is the internet. Its lack of an identity.

Therefor you can not identify yourself as anonymous. If you claim to be anonymous, you are not anonymous.

.... but its the internet. So you're always one new screen name away from being anonymous once more.

The internet is fun.

[neurANon]

MomAnon, all Anons speak for Anonymous. We have no leaders. We have no organisation. We have no spokespeople. Many Anons can denounce the words or actions of other Anons, but we are all still Anon. If you call yourself Anonymous, then you are. Anonymous does not require registration.

[Amperture]

"Isn't the whole point that we are individuals who share ONLY an opposition to the "church" of scientology, for our own reasons?"

Frankly ma'am? No. All we share is anonymity. That, and that alone.

Go to the *chans, the namesake and origin of Anonymous. You'll see that even there, the vast majority of Anonymous cares not for the Chanology movement.

Otherwise, I completely agree with your sentiment.

[phasis]

this is about the juvenile pranks being played by some under the cover of "anonymous."

Some have been posted on youtube (calls to Scientology centers).

The thing is, the FBI can easily trace the phone calls and emails, and we haven't heard about a single arrest. That is curious. Either they don't exist or they are underage, which means that it is being dealt with in juvenile court or the fbi figures it has bigger fish to fry in these post 9/11 times.

[Redimus]

OR!

The FBI doesn't care about a bunch of ignorant twats whining about how the internet is attacking their faggoty little church.

[MARYBLEUZ]

thank you...........

[harbles]

ugh. ignorance just bores me.

perhaps some anonymous have prank called Orgs and posted the calls on youtube. Just those few alone make all anonymous juvenile and underage? i certainly hope you're an enormous troll. that is because i hope you're not as ignorant as you seem.

[dovegen10]

Are all you guys like ex-scientologists or something? Do you have firsthand experience on any of what you say or are you just replaying what a few others have said over and over again on the net. If you put half the amount of effort into helping people you would really do some good.

[Redimus]

They're not not holy templars of great justice.

They're not charitable shining angels of morality.

They are anonymous.

and a war between the internet, and an international corporation capable of blackmailing government agencies through use of their own legal bureaucracy while viciously attacking people who dare to critique or subvert them is a hell of alot more interesting then: "Hey guys, lets plant trees and sing songs about world peace."

[rametarin]

You said it, fella.

And Dovegen: many Anonymous do have first hand experience. Ex Scientologists, Freezoners and educated critics are all part of the wave. Not all of them are, but that's the beauty.. they don't all have to be.

For every lawyer with a case, there are ten protesters just eating cake and providing social lubricant/presence. For every ex-Scientologist with first hand experience taking hits, history of blackmailing Suppressive People, there are eight Anonymous to hold signs.

[goodinohio]

Warning people about a dangerous cult is helping them.

[Redimus]

I cannot express how tired I am of newfags trying to pretend like anonymous is a glorious parade of would be heroes with a dark past.

No. Anonymous is anonymous, and anonymous thinks faxxing black sheets containing the word nigger to scientology churches over and over again is funny.

...I think its funny too. Even if it does give the Cunts of $ciencefiction material to play the victim.

[anonymees]

Good message. In b4 everyone gives it 1 star without watching all of it. I'm not sure about the bomb threats and death threats though.

[aderenaline89]

Its just good to fight the Co$ on two fronts.

Like They said in the video...the White Knights, and the Black Ops