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  • Come again? How did the NIST investigation ignore the WTC core?

    Your BLENDER 3D animation is NOT checkable on the facts, is it?

    NISTs FEA simulations are. LS-DYNA is available on the Internet

    and FREE. But you avoided it, because of the actual data you would

    need to input, didn't you?

  • This video is based on cut core columns which were cut in the removal effort.

    So its all bullshit and flagged.

  • Great video and well done.

    Up to the point of the shaped charges.

    You don't know what you are talking about!!

  • Weak Video, They show the Removal cuts by the Team of Steel Cutters.

  • Who here thinks tha America DESERVED 9/11?

  • second that !

    and if you look at all other bizarre factors beside the planes hitting.... that is in such a wide scale ...these days

  • The BIGGEST JOKE is an ALUMINIUM plane break the STEEL colums of the core, colums of 2-3 inch thikness, in 9/11 the physics law went to another universe. Of course, 9/11 was an inside job.

    Youtube: Dimitry Khalezov. And his banned book on Amazon: The Third Thruth.

  • NIST did not ignore the cores. Saying it did is a blatant lie.

    You mention FEMA and NIST, and at the start of the video you show a quote from the Commission report, which has little to do with FEMA's work, and NOTHING with NIST. So basically, you're lying.

    But hey, who am I to say anything? Anyone can download the paper at wtc dot nist dot gov and see for themselves.

    Lies won't get you anywhere, you know?

  • @endimion17 They will get me somewhere.

  • Kto z Polski ?

  • @3k0m1Ny shutup!

  • Whoa... Flatting down on people into sandwich. D:

  • Can you make a video about how usama bin laden died?

  • @IExposeMormonism

    Nope your wrong as wrong can be

    your the FILTH.

    Im here to clean you up scumbag.

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost 911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analy­sis/design.html

  • @mustbeburtreynolds stick your propaganda up your favorite monkkees ass !!

  • @mustbeburtreynolds EAT THE APE TERD MAGGOT MOUTH.

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost eat you?

  • @awesomewelles1990 no thanks.

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost did you learn anything at all? I'm mildly surprised you noticed the suggestion shaped charges might have been used. But then it's the one thing you can't cope with:: Reality. Nano Thermite is a proven fact, in all dust samples found only under a scanning tunneling electron microscope. And ignited. Why did the core fall from the bottom up? After collapse the core should have tilted and fell but it dropped vertically from the bottom, unlike the WTC collapse

  • @IExposeMormonism But then a gain

    you hide in the hills like a hermit in fear of water vapor at 30,000 feet.

    So you can post nonsense, very impressive, NOT.

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost My fear of water vapor is nothing compared to your fevered brain in the fiery furnace. What's that feel like? Oh, sorry, that's like asking a fish "how is the water". You would do well to watch all 9 of these videos.

  • Yes lovely CG work. But what people don't seem to want to understand is that the Achilles heel of the WTC were the floors. Because the columns were put to the outside of the building the loads were carried there. The floors don't hold vertical loads.  When the exterior columns buckled and failed the entire load of the buildings upper 30 stories rotated down on to the floor. Its load capacity was instantly overloaded. Asking 3/4 inch bolts to hold 180,000 tons in motion?

    No bloody way.

  • Once again the government's "facts" turn out to be damn lies. The only way these buildings could ever collapse is by demolition, preferably done by the military. Let's pray that revenge is on its way. 

  • GREAT JOB! where did you find the the pictures of the angled cut beams?

  • People are ignorant who think twin towers were brought down by fire, twin towers fell at free fall speed on it's foot print within seconds. Can people not see twin towers collapsed identical to demolition job.

  • Futhermore, the author's "jump cut" from the shaped charge animation to an actual photo of a cut beam (at ground zero after collapse) is completely disingenuous. The pictured beam was cut by an oxygen torch (e.g. Oxylance), during the subsquent demolition and site removal phase.

  • @Deuterium2H Total trash, tard. When you demolish a building, the cutting charges are angled.

  • @Deuterium2H Well done for admitting your mistake.

    This was an early video, most people would now agree with you that at the very least the angled cuts are inconclusive.

    One argument against an oxy-acetylene torch is the sheer amount of slag, and against thermic lance is the neatness of the cut.

    But at the very least it could have been made by any of the three (third being a thermite shaped charge as demonstrated by Cole), and we can't tell from the available evidence.

  • @DarkwingScooter No your Wrong - the collapse would have knocked that slag off absolutely.

    Shut down your propaganda machine for the sake of the people.

  • @SkuIICrusherGhost You can't handle the truth, you elastic sack of shit, butt boy for the 911 perps. You're without any moral values and perpetrate a provable lie. Videos like this prove truth and expose remarks like yours for what they are. Go back over to the Purdue cartoon and MikeWilson videos and stew in your own filth.

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  • @SkuIICrusherGhost You have always been on the side of Sharkey and Merlin5x5 and others of that ilk. But at least you watched this video. Some of the truth may sink into your conscience and then who knows, maybe you'll be plagued by a sense of morality. As for crushing skulls, you couldn't crush overripe tomatoes.

  • And no, I will not "apologize" to the author of the video, as it he/she is evidently another deluded conspiracy theory nutjub, and believes the towers were brought down in some sort of controlled demolition. Actually, the author's central argument and motivations are opaque...up until the very end of the video. It is not until the very end of the video that the author displays an animation of a hypothetical shaped charge demolition rigged to a column.

  • DarkwingScooter: Yes, I missed that the author of the video acknowledged the fact that part of the core was momentarily left standing. However, the fact that I missed this factoid that occupies 2 seconds out of an 8 minute video doesn't excuse the fact that the original author completely ignores the official (and final) NIST report, and instead focuses on the very early FEMA hypothesis, which was subsequently abandoned after futher study and analysis of the collapse.

  • The resulting eccentric loading pulled perimeter columns inward, ultimately causing failure, and INITIATED the collapse. The dynamic impulse resulting from at least a 3 meter drop of the combined weight of the upper floors onto the floor directly below the failure level, caused the progressive collapse. Also, contrary to your video, both collapses left a remnant of the core standing, clearly visible above the dust clouds, for tens of seconds after all of the floors had reached the ground.

  • @Deuterium2H You said: "Also, contrary to your video, both collapses left a remnant of the core standing, clearly visible above the dust clouds, for tens of seconds after all of the floors had reached the ground."

    7:03

    Now the test of your intellectual honesty is if you can admit that you were wrong and apologize to the author of the video.

    Simple test, no judgement.

  • @Deuterium2H True. And I've seen from different views that lower stronger parts of the building did resist the collapse at first

  • Further to my previous post, the initial impact event immediately damaged multiple perimeter and even a few core columns, while also removing critical insulation on core and perimeter columns and floor/truss members. The structural damage by the impacts, alone, was not enough to bring down the Towers. The fires that burned for an hour and half at the impact floors caused the steel core columns to buckle, the floor(s) to sag, and shifted gravity load to the perimeter columns.

  • mmmlink, while you may be skilled at computer animation, you are otherwise an idiot.

    You obviously chose to completely ignore the final NIST report, which supercedes the initial FEMA report and PBS/NOVA , and their early "Pancake" Theory of collapse. NIST has determined that WTCs suffered "progressive collapse"...and initiated by an entirely different failure mode -vs- the "Pancake" theory. NIST's conclusions have been supported by independant analysis in academia and industry.

  • if the floors fell out and killed everyone why would one need to blow up the core to an already totally destroyed building.

  • very elegant.

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  • I know that all this will do is make nuttymanyelismate say more things and defend his position that the government is out to get all of us but what can you do. The reality that people in other countries attacked the United States because they hate what we stand for is true. This event would have happened regardless of what President was in the White House and make no mistake they will hit us again. Our freedom is something we must treasure and thank God for.

  • The jet fuel did not need to melt the steel Nutt ball it just had to make it weak enough so it could not support the structures above it. Jet fuel burns at 800º to 1500ºF, not hot enough to melt steel (2750ºF). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. I have been in the fire protection business so I have seen what it does.

  • What no one has brought up is the extreme heat that jet fuel burns at and what that can do to steel. The weight of the floors above the impact zone pancaked on to your shaft destroying it. The heat took time to have an effect on the steel that is also why the tower with the lower impact zone collapsed first and off to one side at first. Stop trying to see cover ups in everything. Next you’re going to tell us that the feds tell the sun when to rise and they call Israel to get permission.

  • @Trajan1013 And what temperature would that be? Do you actually know what temperature jet fuel burns at?

    Leave to the experts. They are qualified. you are not so your statement means nothing.

    The AEfor911truth are highly qualified, so don't be silly.

  • I will say one thing though: at least he acknowledges that the core remained partially intact through part of the collapse sequence. However, the core doesn't need help to collapse into itself. That it isn't really what actually happened. The core was already torn apart by the collapse initiation and simply followed the path of the potential energy acting on all of the pieces. I like how at the end of the video, he shows close-ups of the pieces of core columns that were cut with cutting torches.

  • The first thing this video says, is that the commission stated that the core column structure was hollow and housed the elevator shaftes. This is actually, for the most part; true. What isn't mentioned, is that the core columns--themselves--were also mostly hollow as well. Then they go on to discuss the thickness at the base of the building, which is not relevent and has no bearing on the collapses at all. Then they proceed to acknowledge that the cores get less dense halfway up.

  • sand fleas got lucky, guarenteed they will never EVER be that lucky again! ALLAH SUCKS, MUSLIMS STINK, JESUS RULES, AND ISRAEL RULES ALL ARAB COUNTRIES FORE EVER ISLM COWARDS!

  • Nist is a government agency they claim no molten steel or metal was reported at ground zero even though there are news reports of fire fighters and rescue workers saying there was.

    They don't address this because its the proof of the true events of 911

    Even there computer model of wtc7 collapsing was nothing like the free fall we all seen.

    why don't they release the data to there computer models???

    They know the truth for sure but can never release it!

  • The remarkable thing is how few photos there are of the impact site. There should be thousands of pictures.

  • good

  • Molten metal weeks later under the elevator shafts.

    

  • Thermate

    

  • Where did the core go ?

  • There were workers in the towers when the power was out prior to 911

  • You realise there are actually pictures of those columns being cut during the clean up effort. They got rid of those columns early on as they were declared a danger to the rescue efforts. There is evidence (photos) to show they were cut by a workers post-9/11. There is no evidence (at all) of explosives.

  • IF it happened that way; WHEN would've all the charges have been set? ..and it would've been a lot of them, it would take a lot of destruction to plant them(drywall...etc) and then wire them together, because they would HAVE to be on a circuit

  • It's a molten steel! George Bush is the real terrorist!

  • They came down way too quick,,free fall speed,,a feat never seen by demolition experts ,,military style implosions,, building 7 took care of the ENRON scandle along with the california electric company thing,,;-)

  • They came down way too quick ,free fall speed ,,all three towers military style implosions something never seen before by contractors and demolition experts,building 7 took care of the ENRON problem .

  • @gbird383 The collapse didn't take place in 10 secs. It starts when the top penthouse drops away. It is a two fold collapse. 1 interior collapse. 1 exterior collapse. It took well over 20 seconds. Ya'll are so easy to debunk, that is why you are seen as nuts.

    Israel lobby, military industrial complex, privatising of Iraqi oil, allies to the saudi king, economic hit-men and modern imperialism is all happening, but you folks make it look like nutjob conspiracies. You are a disservice to humanity.

  • @MWcrazyhorse were a disservice to your job to protect the coverup

  • @gbird383 no really ya'll noobs are a disservice to humanity, because you suck too hard at thinking and hence many relate the issues of the Israel lobby (AIPAC), military industrial complex, oil lobby, corruption in washington and modern imperialism orchestrated with help of the world bank to conspiracy nuts.

    You see it again here. Facts do not reach the conspiracy nuts. Just stay out of the discussions and do humanity a favour!!!

  • @MWcrazyhorse ;-)) (LOL) ;-0

  • might anger a few people. Why don't you take a second to remove your tinfoil hats and get off your half-backed websites you cite as "legitimate" sources and think for a while.

  • Any of you crackpot conspiracy theorists who honestly believe nobody in the Middle East had a motive for the attacks must have fallen asleep in history class. We supplied Israel with weapons that they have used to start wars and kill innocent people just for more land. And don't even get me started on Iran. Installing a corrupt lapdog as leader of a country seems to me like something that

  • @Whitefire094 usa gave iraq chemical weapons before 911 silly, before when da last presadent george bush senior.. who are the real terrorist really because the FBI most wanted list doesnt have obl on the wanted list for 911, they openly admited its because they have no hard evidence at all him and his 19potsy hijackers lmfao

  • @Whitefire094 I guess they all forget their history when they're brainwashed.

  • @Akmenspelekais2 You're right but not the way you think. All three towers WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 were blown up. And the people responsible were terrorists. The crime scenes were sanitized and no investigation performed to find out how and why the buildings fell or who did it. So unfortunately it looks like 9/11 was an inside job and the terrorist was the government.

  • Nice CAD model. Shame about the BS conspiracy shit though.

  • Brilliant piece of truth.

    I especially like the end where they show that cutter charges were laid to look exactly like the flame cutting used in the clear up. These guys were tricky.

    Thats what fooled all the structural engineers which is why only 4 out of 10,000 in NY State have signed the ae911truth petition.

  • burning desks and paper would melt the shit out of them!!!!! honest!! americans are so fucking stupid its unbelievable

  • The fall of the core and the sheared colums tells it all

  • The outside of the building was designed to shred an oncoming plane. The core was supposed to stop what was left of it. Therefore I conclude the building did exactly what it was supposed to do. SO WHY THE FU.CK DID IT FALL.

  • Is the designer of the building still alive? I wonder what his opinion of 911 is?

  • @brokencasket His name is Leslie Robertson.

    Do a search on YT for his opinion.

  • @brokencasket sure hespissed regardless

  • @brokencasket

    The chief structural engineer/designer of the Twin Towers (Leslie Robertson) can be found in videos (BBC website and elsewhere) saying both towers did extremely well and saved many lives, standing for as long as they did. He says the fuel load was not considered in the original design, but only the impact from a 707 (which he states cannot be compared to a 767).

  • I'm going to use this video to "tune up" some 911 shill scum. They post on the absurd Purdue RCAC and the MikeJWilson pentagon animation. (Don't send your children to Purdue, if you want truth) And this video deserves way more than 149000 hits.

  • Severed by thin aluminum plane wings of course!!!

    Sorry I dont buy that particular explanation.

  • @zenoist2 um....yes....aluminum can cut steel...when its flying at 500 mph as part of an airliner.....same principal as how a tiny speck of paint can punch through a space crafts hull you dimwit....you dont understand forces at all

  • @JPPolachek you are the worlds dunce for swallowing the 500mph story.

    Its been physically proven the plane in question couldnt possibly have been flying that fast at sea level.

    Do some research and you might find the engines couldnt possibly push all that dense air through the engines at sea level at 500mph

    Just another 9/11 official report impossibility.

    And boy did they pile them up for the whole thing!

  • @zenoist2

    Only in the WTC Buildings... At the Pentagon they sheered off. They can't seem to figure out which one it was!!!!

  • I never noticed that. In all the times I watched that happen, I never noticed the building core having withstood the destruction for a few seconds after the collapse.

    Very impressive simulation.

  • Nice animations, which further reveal the impossibility of hollow, aluminum planes slicing through the Towers as if they were only clouds.

    See another video of the "official" cartoon broadcast by the mainstream media and how any animator could duplicate the SFX.

    watch?v=QNXmgF2yAEc

  • Excellent!

    But at 7:47 you made a mistake!

    It is not a core column, which was cut by cutting charges.

    But it is a exterior column, which was located beneath the steel forks, showed here 0:57.

    The column was cut during the clean-up operation with a cutting torch.

  • They ignored it because it wouldn't compute.

    They had to somehow explain sheets of aluminum slicing through solid steel and concrete.

    Its obvious this steel has to be as thin as possible to get remotely near it.

    It still doesnt compute however.

    Aluminum is too soft and would have crumpled mostly on impact and NOT merrily sliced straight through the whole building.

    Nice work good video.

  • but remember the kinetic energy of 140 tons at 490 and 590 miles and hour hitting the wtc

  • @zenoist2 Good work trying to sound like you know what your talking about. "Aluminum is too soft and would crumpled on impact"....You really just dont get it do you. You have no concept of the forces involved. In your mind, since steel is harder than aluminum, the aluminum should not have entered the building...it should just have piled up on the outside wall, like a car hitting a tree huh.....BRAVO.....I've seen 3 year olds with more intellect than you.. Do you drive a car?? I hope not.

  • @JPPolachek the only moron around here is you insisting aluminum can cut through solid steel

    have a good day in your fantasy land

  • @JPPolachek and did i mention the outside of the building?

    If you'd care to actually look I didnt.

    Please tell me where i mentioned it would have piled up on the outside wall ?

    Typical debunker twisting the truth. The thing I ACTUALLY said was aluminum cant cut throgh solid steel, if you have a problem with that go and see a physciatrist

  • Motive: Bin Laden - allegedly is jealous over our freedoms and/or is a total religious fanatic VS Bush - massive military contracts, virtually unlimited propoganda oppurtunity, guaranteed unlimited credit from the Federal Reserve, cherry legislation for a tyrant, and guaranteed backing of the most powerful nation on Earth, and oil on top of it all to boot (which is probably the most enjoyed part).

    Resources: Bin Laden - Well, he knows 19 guys, they have box cutters and they have access to a

  • bunch of caves, and they suffer from manic depressiveness VS. Bush - CIC of the most powerful and sophisticated military of the world, highly influential office and family name, has MANY associations within the Mainstream Media, brother is head security for the twin towers for years, can control any kind of investigation, and those are just the highlights.

    Sorry, but it's fairly plain to me that Bin Laden loses this contest of motive and ability to execute 9/11 on his own.

  • Why are people seeking the truth reduced to looking for it on YouTube videos?

    Doesn't this seem a little bizarre to people?

    If you care about the truth, get involved by supporting a legitimate investigation.

    NYCCAN is staring a telephone campaign on 3/15/10 to lobby for a real investigation. Get involved in that and/or go to A&Efor911truth to get involved in other efforts.

    The future of our country depends on your involvement.

  • I have been on that sire , it is a good one indeed.

    I might actually take you up on that one.

    Thanks for the heads up.

  • I wish these Truther videos had detailed narration. These are technical debates that require more detailed explanation and nuance than short animations can provide. Im a Truther, but have found some of these vids confusing as hell.

  • there is no debate. ive been fasinated by these thruthers claims, but their evidence is highly substancial and disprovable with both common sense and scientific research.

    i met one truther who tried to claim that there were no planes! even though i was there that day and saw them myself

    really, it seems one truther is dumber then the next. and thats hard to do.

  • 7:54 isnt evidence, that could have been done after the collapse, during the clean up. What is the date and time of that photo? see thats why you conspiracy guys dont explain that part because you've just pulled a photo of the clean up effort and linked it to something malicious.

    Unless there is hard evidence pointing that those cuts were made before the collapse, then we'll talk, until then there is no evidence supporting your theory.

    Nice simulation though.

  • How can those cuts be done after the collapse? Why would any cleanup cuts be done the hard way?, meaning why would they make angular cuts and not just straight through cuts of the steel? Why was there molten metal still burning days after the collapse? In order to get metal molten, it needs to be heated to over 2700 degrees....

    Burning fuel from a jet only reaches 1400 degrees.. how is this metal melted? How is a video clearly showing molten metal pouring out of the building, before collapse?

  • @danaguesswho Some cuts were done after the collapse, but that doesn't matter, the WTC was sliced up 10 floors per second. an aluminum beer can sliced seamlessly, wig tips, edges, tail and all thru outer and inner load bearing walls and some 6 stories of steel reinforced concrete flooring and then came nosing out the other side. Later it crumbled to the ground and no concrete was left. Miracle? no exactly.

  • I don't know what you are trying to say my man , but then again , for anyone NOT to question basic fundamental facts demonstrated over and over by ways of science and common sense, is just a shame . We aren't blaming our GOV we are simply stating the obvious , that there was a cover-up. Who was involved? who knows , are there too many facts refuted in the official report? Yes..

    So who is right?...remains to be seen.

  • @danaguesswho I'm just saying I saw some of the metal being cut by real people. But it doesn't matter. And only one Gov't in the world is capable of performing the 911 ritual. A gov't within a gov't might be more accurate a description. We've been had and we are in Big trouble. For 9 years 90+% of us have believed the impossible. Even people with Phd's in Physics and Vision. No one wants to wake up. So it's end game.

  • I hear you , there is in my estimation people that are awake to the facts that there is something rotten in Denmark, but unfortunately they are too busy with lives problems, stupid videos on here that are senseless, and watching American idol.

    It is indeed a sad state of affairs,sometimes frustrating , but with everyone's help we can win over one mind at a time..

  • Ironworkers cut vertical steel, particularly heavy vertical steel at an angle to control the way it falls when the cut is finished. They will make most of the cut, stop, then either attach a crane to the top of the piece or clear the area below and finish the cut. this way it doesnt pose a hazard to the people below or the individual doing the cutting. If it was a straight and level cut it could pose the hazard of falling back on the ironworker.

  • The "Six Pillars" (Dwain Deets NASA) that prove CD beyond a reasonable doubt are

    Horizontal ejections of multi-ton steel sections up to 600 ft at 60 mph

    Asymmetrical damage resulting in symmetrical "collapse"

    "Collapse" at near free-fall acceleration

    Positive identification of Nano-Thermite

    Tons of molten iron under all three structures

    Temperatures well above those possible in a hydrocarbon fire under the alleged conditions

    Go to A&E for 9/11 Truth to get the facts.

  • If you have never chopped wood, you would never understand how lateral force is created by a vertical force.

    Since the load bearing columns would be forced to hold too many times their designed load, they would fail very quickly causing a symmetrical collapse.

    Nobody has ever proved "near free fall since it took 12 seconds from first sign of collapse to completion. Even videos show well more than 8 seconds.

    Elements of so-called nano-thermite, not positive ID. Read the report.

  • Well, you can watch 5 min of National Security Alert-Sensitive Information and know "they" lied there asses off. Nothing better that photos of the damage, that contradict the "official story". Who needs 60% of 911CR members calling BS? Doesn't hurt though.

  • Thank you. Excellent post.

  • There are roughly 1 million architects registered at the International Union of Architects. There are roughly 5 million engineers in the US alone.

    882 < 6,000,000

    0.0147% of architects and engineers believe something seems suspicious about the WTC collapse.

    99.985% of architects and engineers believe that the WTC collapse is legit.

  • Where did those 99.985% sign and say they "beleive" it is legit. I know the WTC 1,2, and 7 collapse is legitimate too -- they definitely came down. (with timed explosives and structural charges).

    How anyone can watch building 7 fall straight down (symetrically) at free fall speed and say that was a collapse is either a liar, uninformed, or just a plane idiot.

  • Dude your a douche. Don't throw out some random statistics that you just pulled outta your ass and think you know what you are talking about. If you weren't a complete retard you would have stopped believing the official story when WTC7 collapsed into its own foot print at free fall speed. That building didn't even get hit by a plane. the official story is absurd and the fact that you believe it shows how intelligent you really are. ass.

  • Why do the conspiracy theorists keep claiming WTC 7 collapsed at freefall speed when only 2.25 seconds of the collapse was at freefall speed. That's just 15% of the collapse time. Overall, the building fell 40% slower than freefall. Is that what happens in a CD? I assume the CTers can't answer that question.

  • even if what you say is true, how could they collapse at such a speed? Did you count how much time it took for the building to collapse? If I recon correctly, victims bodies fell at the same speed as the WTC. HOW COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT?

  • @anyone commenting or even talking about architects..... Architects only take part in the aesthetic part of buildinds... When it ocmes to structure they don't know squat unles of course they switched from being an engineer to being an architect beforehand. At least use the right words.... I'm not taking any side in this stupid debate that will never see the light anyways but I do have my opinion.

  • I'm just saying when you speak of something you don't know anything about and have only read about it form others that don't know squat either it makes you look stupid

  • Vandal, you have proven that you will believe any claim put force by an unknown person on the internet without corroborating it.

    Look at the claim it didn't get hit by a plane, How do you explain WTC's 3 & 4's collapse? Did they get hit by a plane?

  • @shooter686 i have been researching this information for along time from multiple sources with high creditably. So to judge someone about what they know, when the only information you have on them is a 500 character comment shows that you judge people blindly based on a small amount of information. You need to grow the fuck up and stop projecting your insecurities onto other people. Oh ya learn to use better grammar. Its forth not force, retard.

  • Multiple sources of high credibility = CT sites by those with a combined ZERO years of experience in demolition and explosives.

    Who are your experts?

    Actually it is very easy to judge you since you cannot explain the specifics of your claims. You are forced to use debunked claims and childish antics as your only tactics.

    Nitpicking an auto-correct error as "grammar" tells me that you do not know what grammar is.

    Hint: "ya" is not a derivative of "you".

  • you know im an engineering major attending graduate school, and amoung my friends, truthers are the constant butt of jokes.

    its funny how so many of you truthers theories can be disarmed with common sense.

    for example. wtc 3 and 4 never collapsed, idiot.

    wtc 7 collased from having debree gash a hole in its super structure. the fire did the rest.

    wtc 1 and 2 collapsed due to weakened steel connecting its core and exoskeletion resulting in an unstoppable chain reaction.

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  • This is the best explanation I have seen to rebut the pancake explanation. If that were true, he core of the building would have been standing!

  • and how can those oppose to the idea of government intervention explain a theory of structural damage yet ignore the obvious that there where vast swaths of the building that weren't structurally damaged and yet two buildings collapsed in mere seconds with out resistance? Its obvious something isn't right when you look at nature of the builds fall. Ive seen Guys on Guy Fawkes night collapse slower that those buildings did and yet there made of straw.

    Look at history, governments kill

  • Hello, When you look at the videos available you always seem to find the same angles and the same pictures. Why is this when the entire world was watching a known landmark for over an hour respectively? I'm no genius, architect or scientist nor pretend to be be one but the vids show a building on fire at its uppermost floors ; not the middle nor the lower floors. Yet all floors collapse as if they have suffered structural damage as well. Contd

  • 'Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth recently received acknowledgement from the FBl's counterterrorism division, which concluded that the organization's core evidence deserves - and will get - FBl scrutiny. In a letter, Deputy Director MichaeI Heimbach assessed AE 911's presentation as "backed by thorough research and analysis.'

    - SiIicon WeekIy

    WeII over haIf the peopIe want a reaI investigation and that's a fact.

  • "Over half the American people want a real investigation"

    Bullshit. Prove it.

    All the conspiracy kooks have are lies and pseudo-science. And lots and lots of paranoia.

  • And you's a dumb ass. Anybody that thinks this was a gravity collapse is a complete and utter moron.

  • LOL, yeah, all those highrise structural engineers, metallurgists, forensic engineers, fire protection engineers, etc. from gov't, private firms, & universities who contributed to the investigation are morons. And all the independent engineers who conducted the peer review are morons as well. Because you say so. Right.

    Like I said, all the kooks have are lies and pseudo-science.

  • @PoetryHound

    And lots and lots of nanothermite.

  • Guess what, there are now 882 architects and engineers demanding a real investigation into the events of 9/11.

    Those pesky numbers just keep growing and you know what, this is just the beginning.

    Soon only kooks and conspiracy theorists will believe the official version.

    Isn't it funny how history is full of examples of complete turnabouts in public thinking?

    Over half the American people want a real investigation. How long before the rest join in?

  • He never said such a thing...check it out yourself you shill!!

  • Hey, don't get all pissy at Me lol!!! He absolutely DID say this! They never found Aluminum Oxide, or Barrium Nitrate in the samples! These absolutely ARE the 2 KEY ingredients in demoltion grade Thermite!

  • Well I think you just pulled that statement out of your ass, GG...lol...

  • Hey pat:

    Just look it up! They never found Aluminum Oxide, or Barrium Nitrate, in the dust samples! The two Key ingredients! Harrit himself stated that "nano-thermite" was only in it;s research phase! lol

  • PoetryHound; where does your so-called academia sources stand on evidence of Nano-thermite found in the area??

  • Hi Pat,

    Don't waste your time with Poetry Hound. He/She's a kook.

  • There was NO "nano-thermite" found in the area! Harrit, himself proclaimed, that "nano-thermite" was only in it's research phase, and still is! The 2 key ingredients that are found in thermite, are Aluminum Oxide, and Brrium Nitrte! Both of which, were ABSENT from the dust samples! This lie, that "nano-thermite" was found, is just laughable, since the "Truth" movements prime expert, debunks that it was even used!

  • Please compare this animation to the "Purdue Simulation" of the airplane impact: watch?v=cddIgb1nGJ8

    Note that the Purdue Simulation shows much smaller beams than this video does. Compare both videos to the photos taken during construction of the towers. If the Purdue study falsely portrays the tower beams as less sturdy than they actually were, one must ask why. Perhaps "conspiracy" is the wrong word. Perhaps "propaganda" or "bandwagon" is the better term. We can handle the truth.

  • Heh "PoetryHound"

    The only piece of SHIT around here is your sorry dememted ass. "legit sources"?? You sorry ASSHOLE.

    How about getting beyond Talmudic filth like you? Well cunthead . . . we already have.

    Even a turd sniffing rodent like you will eventually know the truth about 9/11. Not in this lifetime, your fuckin skull is too dense to comprehend the basics any time soon.

    Your link, like the reflection in your mirror, is utter CRAP.

    Get a life you fuckin traitor asswipe.

  • Heh heh, typical kookspiracy tard. You need to floss your brain, clown.

  • Rabbi Daniel Lapin has pointed out that anyone with broadband can find all the nasty parts of the Talmud in about ten seconds. What do they mean? That relations between Christians and Jews were strained in the second to fourth century AD, not to mention afterward.

    Most religions have something negative to say about non-believers and worse, heretics.  Do Jews today live by the nasty Talmud passages? Most Jews today couldn't find them without Google!

  • The numbers keep growing!

    There are now 799 Architects and Engineers demanding a real investigation into the events of 9/11.

    More importantly, over half of the American people have serious questions about 9/11 and want a real investigation.

    You don't need to be an engineer to see this was controlled demolition, just a little old fashioned common sense and a basic understanding of physics and you must be able to comprehend that kerosene can't melt steel.

    It really is that simple.

  • @KevinMerck and aluminum doesnt slice through steel and concrete like a kike through butter.

    It would have impacted and made an ugly mess but not gone through in a million years.

  • @KevinMerck yeah right and at the same time Republicans are stronger than ever in polls, because oh right Obama and the Dems are in on it too...

    right right the parties are just fake, yes? In reality the Jews are running it all and oh of course the free masons that helped free the country of the brits are in on it.

    who else?

    btw noone is saying the steel was melted.

  • @MWcrazyhorse the wind forces that had to be withstanded from both towers were FAR greater than the impact of those planes.. Now thats just science, go google it.. And then say the planes brought down the enitre 110 story structures polvurising concrete floors the whole way down polvurising office furniture people in mid air in ten seconds.. Ahwel...

  • @ryconster 10 secs. you are referring to wtc7. The collapse didn't take place in 10 secs. rewatch the collapse. It starts when the top penthouse drops away. It is a two fold collapse. 1 interior collapse. 1 exterior collapse. It took well over 20 seconds.

    This is the problem with the "truthers". They do not have their facts straight (some outright lie).

    Of course the educated citizen knows about the Israel lobby, and the modern Imperialism leading to the Iraq war and privatising of oil.

    Neocons.

  • @MWcrazyhorse No you clown im talking about the towers.. Go and google the time it took for both towers to collapse.. You will find the south tower collapses in around 8.5 seconds and the north tower at 11 seconds.. As for building 7, that was 6.5 seconds from start to finish.. FULL STOP.. Doesnt change the fact that the wind forces sustained by the towers was FAR greater than the impact of those planes..

  • @ryconster this is exactly why you are seen as nuts or as retards, which, very likely, you infact are. Facts do not reach you instead you repeat the same falsehoods again and again and again and everyone normal will think this entire 9/11 issue is just full of retards and nuts and turn away. You want to help? Stop breathing now.

  • @MWcrazyhorse WTF!! IM NOT TALKING FALSEHOODS YOU FUCKEN DUMB CUNT!! NIST AND FEMA TIMED THE COLLAPSES OF ALL 3 BUILDINGS AS WHAT I JUST FUCKEN SAID.. Go check out the designers of the buildings or google what they designed the building to withstand!! YOU FUCKEN USELESS CUNT!! 

  • @MWcrazyhorse Wow thats a lot of talk with not one point made. Just like so many other Duhbunkers out there. Can you make a single point please that is based in facts. Maybe once you post something worth commenting on I will get back with you on it.

  • @darion65 at least you realise the Neocons are a bunch of war mongering criminals. Don't worry about the details.

  • @KevinMerck NOONE is saying the steel was melted.

    Steel loses carrying capacities the hotter it gets. It deforms. Eventually the steel structure will snap at specific conjuctions.

    If you all doubt the engineric reports on the collapse and demand new ones, perhaps you should first at least look at them.

    The issue you have in the U.S is with lobby groups, economic hit-men and modern imperialism. Your allies are the saudis. They want Iraq taken down, THEY do the hit, you take Iraq and the oil.

  • everyone knows it wasn´t those terrorists that blew up WTC!!!!

  • yeah they flew planes into them and they collapsed later

    der

    those beams columns were cut by oxy-acetylene torches

    der

  • everyone knows that it WAS terrorists that blew up WTC (just not the so called "islamic terrorists" thats all)

  • 4Mr4Mr,

    See my previous reply to super,

    and I strongly suggest you lay off

    the fluoride and aspertame.

    Peace

  • super,

    A lot do and the rest are too busy or too

    dumbed down to care or too afraid to

    think about it or feel it it too awefull to

    think about.

    So, "everyone" is quite inaccurate even

    though "everyone" SHOULD know this.

    Peace

  • @supernaturalSami Oh it was terrorists alright..just not the muslim kind.

  • @supernaturalSami Everyone who is sane knows it was terrorists.

  • @ninemen123 yea it was they say delomition team got in set up explosives in a few minutes.it takes weeks to set up a implod noway it could have been anything other than the planes loaded with fuel rode in at 500 mph

  • @weavhipe Except WTC7, that had non-critical damage on the south side and a lot of office fires without jet fuel.

  • @VCat2006 could it have been paper and office stuff ??? i am asking what you think

  • @weavhipe Yes. That's why steel structures have fireproofing (that only lasts a few hours; the new WTC7 tripled it, i think).