diss Dr. Ramachandran is like dissing Einstein or Newton in physics. Only less intelligent stupid idiots would try to discredit this man.. good luck with that :)
@ Dicktator - VS Ramachandran is one of the most widely respected neuroscientists in the world. He pioneered the mirror box which has helped alleviate pain for amputees. His research changed the field of neuroscience and neurology forever. He is not just a "Dr" and he is not crazy. You have epilepsy in your temporal lobes, you dont experience this. What those two statements do not mean is that this isnt a real consequence of temporal lobe epilepsy.
I also have temporal lobe epilepsy and i can tell you, that you dont feel anything like that because you never remeber what happened (friends can tell you and its nothing spiritual) . This indian doctor is just as crazy as his patient ! The best doctors for epilepsy will tell you the same!! Just poor how some people try to prove the existence of god, god was invented by humans to explain what they were not able to explain. Grow up !
@Dicktator24 I dont think you watched the video verry well, they never say god excists. Further more Ramachandran is one of the most respect neurologists in the world.
@Dicktator24 This doctor is not a theist, in fact his findings suggest the religious experience is nothing but a quirk of the brain. And not all temporal lobe epileptics have the same experience. Stop being so rigid.
I just noticed that the doctor is a neurologist and not a psychiatrist. What I wouldn't do to have a neurologist who was this understanding and compassionate. What I wouldn't give:(
Some epileptics claim to hear beautiful music, and the doctor says the brain is producing the music; however, the epileptic is not a Mozart or a Beethoven. So the obvious question to ask is this; where is the music coming from or who or what is making the music in the epileptics head? The same can be asked with the visions of heaven some epileptics claim to see. They say the visions are more beautiful than any artist can create. So what is generating all this beauty and artwork in the head?
@godno1god They are. That is the point of the study... That portion of the brain is searching for meaning whether it is found in religion, science, etc. The seizures are causing an instant "ok, found it" moment that the brain cannot interpret because it is too much information to fast and it overloads the senses AND it is all being marked as top priority information... so yes, you could not create any art that would be too much for the brain to interpret like that.
@skingbinsane If my brain produced the best music ever, then does this mean that I am a genius composer? This explanation doesn’t make sense. Visions are happening inside my head, but the visions are so imaginative and so original, even better than CGI and more imaginative than any piece of art I have ever experienced. Then am I a genius artist too? Epileptics are describing vistas of weirdness like this. How are they producing all this stuff thats more real than this world? Strange stuff.
@godno1god I'm not following your line of reasoning. Please take more time to think about what you are saying. Conceiving things in your mind doesn't mean you are a genius. If you can reproduce these visions onto canvas then maybe you are a gifted artist. If you are unable to do so then you are just a dreamer.... I suggest laying off the mind altering substances. LSD, Peyote etc produce the same visions you mention. Its created by your brain either by manipulation with drugs or damage
@skingbinsane I agree.. it appears that we have an individual who's mind is involuntarily triggering the chemicals that allows him to experience an ascension, if you will, without adequately having acquired certain degrees of knowledge or mastership over the lower self.
I believe you have taken this completely wrong. This kid is going through an enlightenment. That is the expansion of his consciousness to the whole. And that of course is a bath with dopamine and oxytocin. And the only way that he can explain his witnessing state is by the words/philosophy/belief he has learned before.
This kid needs a guiedence.He needs to be trained to conceptualise what is happening to him .
I don't think anyone can say for sure that God is not real because that is the same as saying you know everything there is to know about the universe. I think you can only do probabilities and when I look at the universe and how complex it is I think God is the most likely cause. You then have to decide which God is real and when you look at all the religions of the world the Bible stands out and has a real historical person. Life is just full of questions.
Temporal lobe seizures can be created via self stimulation, or so I speculate.
For evidence I point to the Jesus Camp video, the 'holy rollers', and other enthusiastic charismatic religious practices. People can work themselves into a state of mental frenzy, or by worked into such a state by their environment, inducing religious or spiritual experiences, and 'proving' to themselves the reality of the god thing.
@login667 Agree. I think -exactly this- experience is synonymous with a drugexperience, or a religious experience. It is stimulated by our environment - people, art, cars, roads, everything. But as this drugexperience is "on" all the time, and doesn't (feel like it ) changes, it isn't recognized, appreciated, and so on.
..contd the one that puts square or tree on mind is intellect. The one who is watching it is I the self.Just isolate all these processes and watch the other processes with calm as a silent witness. Just focus your intellect on temporal lobe and just be a silent witness!
you may not have seizures, but still you can experience the same if you have good structured thinking. Breakdown your thought process into external world, your body, your mind, your intellect and yourself. close your eyes and see your mind as a screen on which images, voices and senses are projected. Think the square a square picture comes on the screen, think about a tree or a house it comes on the screen.
Religions are not based on mystical experience. Look at the Bible, nowhere does it say anything about such experiences, it talks about law and history. In fact Freud said the Jewish race was superior because Jews never experienced the 'oceanic feeling'. Same with the religions of the ancient world, although some of the ecstatic mystery cults may have used drugs such as mushrooms, certainly the Bacchantes used wine, perhaps mixed with a hallucinogen such as belladonna.
No matter what you believe in, you will find all the proof, confirmation, examples and studies proving you right. But are you correct? Are you able to prove to all who want to know that the egg comes first? Or was it the chicken...
They try to change you but you are a reaction. I've had everything from punishments for being unwed (another world) to ex friends trying to implant information into my mind and say I'm stupid or anything else that won't work and encounters with like Yama. Oh, I got married. hehe Confusion. Chaos reigns. Most of these things are created from pain, and we question, so we seek. I'm not accepting shit and I don't believe in anything.
As in schizophrenia it is easy to create God,Demons,Angels,UFO abductions, Alien delusions of natives creating landing strips in Nazca just Ingest Entheogens
Any mentally healthy aka Atheist person can see talk to god just like ANY Christophrenic or schizotypal person Becoming temporarily insane with Religious psychosis by simply ingesting Peyotl,LSD,ergot,toad milk,Datura flowers just like the ANCIENTS did before creating religious texts over 5000 yrs ago. They had NO idea the BRAIN cause it
"I was in so much pain that I would rather be shot to death or... whipped to death." Keep that kid away from a hammer and nails whenever he's near a cross!
Dr Ramachandran is explaining where Christophrenia originated from
Religious beliefs are but another form of schizophrenia which goes by the name FAITH in GOD. Educated People that believe in gods & other deluded irrational concepts have a problem with their brains
Schizophrenics &religious folks ACCEPT imaginary friends as reality. There is no difference between the delusions of Schizophrenics or Christians. People of faith are a psychopathy waiting to happen. They must be treated in asylums
How much researc you have to do to realize the BRAIN creates the MIND & that when one accepts an IMAGINARY FRIEND as REALITY, the brain is malfunctioning?
FYI Educated people that believe in GODS & other delusions have a PROBLEM with the brain, either scintillating scotoma, status epilepticus, schizotypy, etc
Schizophrenia is ONLY one out of MANY names..another is GEHIRN GESTOERT..please get educated I KNOW what I'm talking about, I have a SANE,aka atheism BRAIN.2+2=4 NOT 6
Please watch this so you learn that when you believe in God & resurrected zombies & you are an educated person, you are a theoatard. Please make a note of it. This is RECENT discovery by neuroscientists.
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Also study evolutionary biology & genetics, I have.
The study measured one variable that could possibly be related to spirituality, this is what could be called a possible spurious conclusion.
I am a graduate student researcher, so I know a bit about how studies work. The best argument you have to stand on here is the assumption that reductionist neuroscience will someday be able to explain the totality of human thought, which it has yet to do. By simply ridiculing religious people,
With you do not seem to understand is that the BRAIN is the creator of GOD & other delusions. You seem to be very ignorant of science. In your obvious Christophrenia or other fears, you ignore the fact that I'm simple a messenger that connect the dots of various disciplines. Just because it is not known HOW human thought works, we KNOW it originated in the brain & when it ACCEPTS imaginary friends ( all religions have one) as reality tis is defined as PSYCHOSIS, 2+2=4 not 5
..and you're making yourself look like an ignorant fool posting such nonsense. Scientists will laugh at you not me. My point is
We are evolved mutated PRIMATES that create God & other delusions with our BRAIN. This makes god & other imaginary friends NOT real. These delusions can be REPRODUCE operating your hippocampus,stimulating your T lobes, Locus coeruleus. Religious beliefs are based on accepting DELUDED CONCEPTS as FACT just like in schizophrenia
I do not debate with CAPS-LOCK irritants. You obviously have a lot of deep personal reasons why you feel the need to converse in such a manner, and I will not presume, nor take it upon myself to act as your therapist. Instead, let me ask you something, why do you have faith that materialism is a correct representation of reality?
Please get educated, the BRAIN ( I capitalize the word so your deluded brain understand it) is the creator of the mind. Is is a personal reason for me to expose the truth & science backed up facts that you simply fail to understand due to your ignorance & no doubt distorted thinking produced Christophrenia?
Sorry truth hurts, But I only deal with FACTS, not the deluded puerile fairy tales produced in dopamine addicted in the brains of theotards. Please get a clue
What part of we CREATED god & other delusions with our brains when they malfunction didn't you understand? You are not only lost but clueless about human cognition & what means to be an evolved mutated primate that CREATES god delusions with the brain to JUSTIFY his existence placing himself ABOVE animals.
Sorry dude, you ought to get that brain fixed so you understand where cognition & the psychosis of belief in god originates from.
college12003 "why do you have faith that materialism is a correct representation of reality ? "
Please get educated the Brain which is a product of 3B yrs of evolution is composed of neurons passing information via electromagnetism. It creates god, not the other way arround. It is compose of matter, ATOMS, that became aware of its own existence. Our evolved primate brains created cognition. Faith is inversely proportional to knowledge & information. More the Faith more the ignorance. LEARN
@calpurnpiso - For a person who keeps using the refrain "get educated" you clearly do not have any sense of how educated discussions progress. Nor is your logic sound. Being able to reproduce an experience by sticking an electrode in the brain does not invalidate the experience. If that were the case then we would have to conclude that light and sound are also delusions, as we can reproduce them by moving the electrode to a different place in the brain. Facts != understanding facts.
Additionally, finding that the human brain has a neural pathway dedicated to producing a sensation of "presence of god", and that this pathway is conserved in the entire human species, does not argue that our brains are hardwired for psychosis. Nobody knows what purpose such a pathway serves. Certainly there are hypotheses, but in order to be intellectually honest we must consider the possibility that being able to detect the presence of a "god" was an evolutionary benefit to our ancestors.
Please understand the FACT the BRAIN is the creator of the MIND not the arse.
Accepting gods, demons, & other deluded fairy tales as FACT ( the delusion at the center of Religious faith) by educated folks is a sign of a delusion accepting disorder like in schizophrenia, TL epilepsy or cognitive dissonance.
We are in the 21st Century not 12th. There is NO GOD without a brain to conceive it, deal with this fact. To understand this FACT you need to be educated
@calpurnpiso - Yes yes, very nice repetition. I'm well aware of the details of the brain. I have studied neuroscience. Is your position that there is also no light without a brain to conceive it? No momentum without a eustachian tube to perceive it? I suspect my education exceeds your own sir, I simply disagree with you. Notice that I am asking a question of logic. Your position that there can be no entity independent of human consciousness is a position of faith. Or can you prove it?
Ignoring the facts of neurology & the LINK I provided is not going to make the FACTS presented disappear. There is NO need to study neurology to see the BRAIN is the CREATOR of the imaginary friends people of FAITH & SCHIZOPHRENICS see as REALITY
Don't forget mental illness doesn't discriminate,I suggest you STUDY your OWN brain. Its perception of reality can be AFFECTED by simply operating the hippocampus.Please LAND,learn about Francis Collins a scientist & Christophrenic Learn
I suggest you see these articles where neuroscientists in Italy Feb 2010 have proven "spirituality' ( belief in gods ) is a result of damaged brains. Here learn the facts:
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Please remove your tunnel vision goggles & make the connections with various sciences to understand my point 2+2=4 not 5
@calpurnpiso - Your articles prove nothing. Damage one area of the brain = increased "spirituality". Damage another area = altered sense of time. Therefore neither God nor Time exist. See? That is a faulty chain of logic. _Everything_ is perceived through the brain whether real or not real. People with synesthesia can taste colors. Do colors exist or are they just fantasies of the brain?
Au contraire. Keep burying your head in the sand IGNORING new discoveries it'll keep you retarded. I'm aware of the bicameral mind..which is CREATED by the BRAIN & which can be manipulated with an OPERATION, its perception of reality distorted which is my point
O si tacuisses philosophus manssises
Study Dr Shitij Kapur Univ of Toronto correlation between the levels of Dopamine & psychosis. Dr Persinger God Helmet. Delusions of schizophrenics & religious are identical in nature
@calpurnpiso - PS: may I suggest you get a bit of education yourself and read this book: "The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World" by Ian McGilchrist. It is an excellent book about the bicameral mind. You can find it on Amazon.
@calpurnpiso - Also notice, I'm not arguing for the existence of a god, I'm simply pointing out that your logic is flawed. What is strange is that the brain has a mechanism that results in the perception of "spiritual presence". The evolution of this mechanism and the fact that it has been conserved in the entire human population is a great mystery to science. That is why we study it. What evolutionary advantage does it confer?
@brothersand my logic that 2+2=4, that the BRAIN creates the MIND, & that delusions produced by an educated religious mind & that of an educated schizophrenic are the same is FLAWED? ..sorry dude, you better see a neurologist not infected by Christ-psychosis to teach you the facts.
Learn about evolutionary biology, genetics, geology, entheogens affecting thought, study Synesthesia, make the connections..NO MYSTERY to those who KNOW science, Please land.
@calpurnpiso - Ah, I see. You're retarded. I should have guessed. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about and believe that the drunken stumble of your thought process is in some way logical. You are a religious zealot who has confused science for a religion and you understand it not at all. You can't even tell when you're babbling. We're done here.
Remember, you were product of a F*CK not the stork. In your neurological turpitude & ignorance of science you fail to realize we are EVOLVED mutated primates that are BORN lacking belief (atheist ) & that we CREATE the MIND ( this includes supernatural concepts of spirits ) with our BRAINS
Learn what a DNA toolkit is. Study evolutionary biology.Read KOCH Quest for Consciousness.Yes loser operating your hippocampus PROVES my point 2+2=4 not 5
@brothersand ''What evolutionary advantage does it confer?'' it may confer an evolutionary advantage to those who do not ''have it''.Those who master them.There is always a minority that rules.They create religions and usually get to be gods' representative on earth. Religious type invariably say they ''feel it'' when you break it down.This is another clue.
It is obvious that you are here just to grind an ax. You failed to address my points and seem to have a lot of preconceived notions of who I am without any reason to do so. I just checked out your channel, and I must say. I am tremendously disappointed. I was nearly convinced that you were an undergrad in your early 20s. A man your age should have better learned how to conduct an intelligible debate rather than resorting to cheap slams and rhetoric.
So, why don't you ignore me theotard?..instead of coming for more punishment so I can slap your defective brain with facts?
I know truth hurts. Please study neurology. if you believe in god you're either a child, ignorant, deluded, retarded, ingested one amanita muscaria too many, or suffer from a delusions inducing disorder like schizophrenia
Give it up, you just keep proving my point. See a neurologist PLEASE. 2+2=4 not 6 as you insist. Get educated
I understand that you are not open-minded to possibilities outside of your perspective, so I will egress this discussion. I hope that you someday realize that the world is not so black and white as your comments suggest, and learn some respect for other views within structured debate, rather than seeking to degrade opponents who you know nothing about and insist of their ignorance without even considering their statements.
this is embarrassing, not only for this man, but the human race as a whole. his parents support his theology? videos like this truely make me concerned for the human race, and deeply troubled inside.
@S3NYCK: This isn't theology. It's theoretical neuroscience. And considering Ramachandran is renowned world over in this field, I'm sure his parents are proud of him.
I've got TLE. and the whole "believing you are god" thing is in nearly all TLE patients. But if you are sane enough still, you won't have the ego interfering. You will believe everyone is one facet of God. And quite honestly, that is true.
why live a life that is pointless? where there is nothing to gain? obviously, the majority of people deep down don't truly believe this... and if you think that's hard wired brain stuff, then go get that knife or gun out of the kitchen and see for yourself.
DO YOU KNOW THE GOD CODE? THE COVER UP OF ALL GOVERNMENT AND ALL RELIGION HIDE IT THERE IS NOTHING TO BELIEVE IN BASE ON REALITY AND PURE LOVE TRUE CHRISTAN WOULD CONTROL THE WORLD IF 5 SINS ADD TO THE BIBLE 1 TAKEN OUT FEW STRONG TEACHING OF TRUTH AND BOUT DARK LAWS TO WATCH OUT FOR NO MAN WOULD BE TRICKED , VERY FEWS THING OF THE WORLD ARE BELIEFS THING OF GOD IS REALITY WITH NO BELIEFS AND MUCH LOVE THING HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE BIBLE AND ADD THAT SHOULD NOT THERE .
This video is a good response to an extreme experience of this condition. I agree with you everythingispointless. Everything is pointless, When you are there in the moment - the experience can be profound - and yet afterwards ?pointless. Consciousness doesn't deal with the aftermath. It becomes pointless especially over time. Yet always remains special. Oximoron. Language cannot describe the associations. No wonder thoughts of 'God' makes an association with this experience.
St. Paul, Jesus, Moses, Muhammed and even Joan of Arc - all of them and many other saints and prophets, self-proclaimed god-men / messiahs, fit the epileptic or some other disorder.
Even plain ordinary believers easily fit into one or more.
its more like you can insert your own ideas and organizations onto things, not a matter of 'exactly like', 'insight', or anything else. its the simulation of insight through having things re-defined, in my best interpretation anyway
hmm so if it is a simulation, then the simulation is of something real .. . a simulation can't exist of something that doesn't exist . . . and if so, a simulation can be helpful in understanding the real thing
I have had many temporal lobe seizures. ive hallcuianted entire other realities, deities, spirits, god satan, being one with the cosmos. TLE usually gets diagnosed 'schizophrenic' which is really just an umbrella term for this stuff, and psychiatrists like to exploit people with neurological complications. I dont take any meds and am in college. I just do vitamins. Have to say, for a little bit I was kinda addicted tot he hallucaintions they provide incredible insight, but can be dangerous.
The idea that near death experiences result from oxygen deprivation to the brain is incorrect. Look at the work of Dr. Melvin Morse. If you want to know about the inventions people have gleamed from this altered state of consciousness, I suggest you read the NDE of Mellen Thomas Benedict. He talks about how he was given ideas for inventions that use light to heal. The man was also clinically dead for over an hour.
I don't understand why people use this research as an argument AGAINST God.
I see it as an argument FOR the belief in God - that God so beautifully designed us to include in our brains an area that is set to be receptive for Him.
Well, all our beliefs about what is "real" (i.e. matter) is reducible to neural correlates in the brain too. Even the belief in a world external to myself is produced in the brain. If someone thinks that this shows the concept of God to be a fabrication, then they would have to say that about everything else that is perceptible.
That belief is also reducible to activity in the brain, thereby making it invalid. I don't think reducing experiences to areas of the brain is grounds for explaining it away.
For the record, I'm not a creationist. I think that our brain has access to, if you will, dimensions, that we don't have in normal waking consciousness. People who have had near death experiences report having new insights and inventions that are successfully employed in the real world. You can't attribute this to a random misfiring. I'm sure there is a biological basis to all these unusual experiences, but it by no means invalidates them.
timi0000 ok, so what are you saying different from VSR? And dont you think the good doctor is spending plenty of time researching the subject? What are your credentials?
those near death experiences have been explained to be hallucinations caused by oxygen deprivation. And could you provide examples of the inventions you speak about? Also, how can them being biologically explainable not be grounds to invalidate them as what they are: hallucinations and delusions caused by these biological factors?
Not true. Oxygen deprivation does not cause hallucination's. Get scientific evidence from Pim van Lommel. Which mechanism triggers the hallucination, which properties of the cell's are responsible for the hallucination? You should have provided an example.
Klumpatratsch - Pim van Lommel is a doctor with confirmation bias trying to prove a belief. Lommel uses biased patient testimony as evidence which would be ok in a court of law but in science it's the equivalent of trying to publish the crap on a used piece of toilet paper as evidence of god. Testimonials are worthless bring us some real data.
No, he is not trying to prove anything. The gist of his argument is about consciousness.That boils all down to the good old measurement problem and even scientists fail to provide real data.Extrapolating from this, we are back to square one - what is real?
Klumpatratsch - you brought PVL in as a scientist with evidence as per your previous comment. I looked him up and he is NOT a scientist he is a cardiologist. He did 1 study on 322 people and NO research. This is NOT EVIDENCE. Science makes no claim to what is REAL. It starts from 1 assumption - reality exists. Given that assumption all research is derived NOT believed. YOU assume multiple realities with interference patterns in order to sustain your BELIEF in your god of your neural gaps. gog.
You are mistaken.How can you say that scientists make no claim on what reality is but at the same time you define evidence as it suits you.Also, you simply can't possibly know what I assume by using an assumption ( that reality does exist) in order to profile yourself intellectually.I never stated or claimed your multiple realities with interference pattern.Finally, no where did I mention god.What else are you telling yourself about other people?Get real and get a girlfriend, pal..
1st you assume I'm a man and also unmarried. 2nd the assumption made in association with NDE is a belief in alternate realities. 3rd all systems of logic are derived with inherent foundational assumptions. Science starts with the - assumption - that reality exists and since it exists all natural laws aka understanding of reality can be derived through observation and research. Nothing is claimed real it is assumed to be real by the preponderance of repeatable evidence also assumed to be real.
Look klumpatratsch, you really don't get this whole perceived reality thing do you? We as a species based on perception assume reality. That is a neurological foundation. Even the neurons in our brain are assumed to be real. All of these things are a singular assumption - reality exists. NDE proposes an alternate reality exists and meta data derived from testimonials of patients is assumed to be evidence and not just biased hearsay. What physical NDE event transpires to express a super-reality?
Finally klumpatratsch go back and reread my comments I did NOT say scientists make no claim on what reality is I said - science makes no claim. Science is method of research a scientist is a person. I can understand how this must be difficult for you to grasp when you can't even keep the context of the argument straight.
Finally, a claim on what reality is has already been made, by many persons.
Maybe you see why it was unecessary for me to keep your argument straight. The properties and behaviour of electrons do suggest many realities, according to David Deutsch, which he suggests in his book "The fabric of reality". (Also Heisenberg,Schroedinger,Einstein,Planck concluded the same- eeeeaaaaarrliiieeeer).Anyway,I am getting tired with churning out other people's assumptions and findings - ; ).
There are no NDE events which do transpire a super reality, which I have never implicated.But in many cases people are able to form new memories or have knowledge which they pror to the nde hadn't had.
Not only are you a world class physicist klumpatratsch but a world renowned neurologist as well - unlike Pim van Lommel who is a heart surgeon, a technician of sorts and NOT a neurologist. Oh but wait, aren't you defending claims by PVL relating to neurology and trying to tie them to arguments of super reality aka a multiverse? Consider yourself peer reviewed.
What does getting a girlfriend have to do with it? I'll let you in on a little secret: anger and irritation can muddle the mind, can distort reality perception.
Perhaps religious folk at least were onto something with the idea of control and cleansing of emotion/self thing... it certainly has its benefits.
When the kid walked outside and thought he was God. His dad said: "You better get inside, or else someone will call the cops", and the kid says: "No one will call the cops" ... 'on GOD'. Awesome line. Awesome!
I hope he was smoking weed....it's a legitmate medicinal treatment. My boyfriend smokes to treat epilepsy. Without it he gets very dizzy and is more likely to have a seizure.
same here , weed and T.E.P go together well for a while but after a few days without any weed the seizures get real real bad and the thc doesnt help the psycotic episodes we all suffer at some point during our lifetimes , doctors are very hesitant to diagnose this as they cant have any definitive proof, and most people who suffer from this take or have taken drugs at some point in there life and doctors seem to think its side effects of the drugs ( ignorant bastards) , this is a fucked up thing
oh no, believe, it can be no pleasant at all, we're talking about a very serious issue, it can be inspiring for the arts, but it really does affect your life too.
Its called an out of body experience. I can induce one every so often when waking up in the morning and observe my room and house while fully independent of my body.
The more the lie is big, the more people believe in it!
It's a shame sometime to be a human when I look around and see all those scared religious lost people. Too afraid to accept the burden of consciousness. They look toward the past only without never evolving, science look toward the future and the past!
I don't have that many seisures really, but I recognize the feeling of understanding the universe. How everything fits together.
I have also had the other ones. The ones where you feel like your soul is beeing ripped in two. If you can imagine being in a situation where you know you are going to die in five seconds, it's like that. Over and over again for five minutes.
I don't think it's a religious experience really, or maybe I'm the Messiah?
diss Dr. Ramachandran is like dissing Einstein or Newton in physics. Only less intelligent stupid idiots would try to discredit this man.. good luck with that :)
icchiism 4 days ago
@ Dicktator - VS Ramachandran is one of the most widely respected neuroscientists in the world. He pioneered the mirror box which has helped alleviate pain for amputees. His research changed the field of neuroscience and neurology forever. He is not just a "Dr" and he is not crazy. You have epilepsy in your temporal lobes, you dont experience this. What those two statements do not mean is that this isnt a real consequence of temporal lobe epilepsy.
NeuroNameth 1 week ago
i have TLE but dont have these kind of symptoms all that happens to me is déjà vu and olfactory hallucinations
stgz13 3 months ago
I also have temporal lobe epilepsy and i can tell you, that you dont feel anything like that because you never remeber what happened (friends can tell you and its nothing spiritual) . This indian doctor is just as crazy as his patient ! The best doctors for epilepsy will tell you the same!! Just poor how some people try to prove the existence of god, god was invented by humans to explain what they were not able to explain. Grow up !
Dicktator24 4 months ago
@Dicktator24 I dont think you watched the video verry well, they never say god excists. Further more Ramachandran is one of the most respect neurologists in the world.
tuigleven 1 month ago
@Dicktator24 This doctor is not a theist, in fact his findings suggest the religious experience is nothing but a quirk of the brain. And not all temporal lobe epileptics have the same experience. Stop being so rigid.
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Dicktator24 4 months ago
fuck god we wann it real
albanians2unite 7 months ago
I just noticed that the doctor is a neurologist and not a psychiatrist. What I wouldn't do to have a neurologist who was this understanding and compassionate. What I wouldn't give:(
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i love this movie. I haven't seen it since abnormal psych 6 years ago
AntinuclearAntibody 8 months ago
i have temporal lobe epilepsy and i felt just like this. its such a weird feeling
Disturbed928 8 months ago
his perception of god has been influenced by current active religions...
MusiClymax 9 months ago
Some epileptics claim to hear beautiful music, and the doctor says the brain is producing the music; however, the epileptic is not a Mozart or a Beethoven. So the obvious question to ask is this; where is the music coming from or who or what is making the music in the epileptics head? The same can be asked with the visions of heaven some epileptics claim to see. They say the visions are more beautiful than any artist can create. So what is generating all this beauty and artwork in the head?
godno1god 9 months ago
@godno1god They are. That is the point of the study... That portion of the brain is searching for meaning whether it is found in religion, science, etc. The seizures are causing an instant "ok, found it" moment that the brain cannot interpret because it is too much information to fast and it overloads the senses AND it is all being marked as top priority information... so yes, you could not create any art that would be too much for the brain to interpret like that.
avalonspawn 8 months ago
@godno1god The brain creates it
skingbinsane 8 months ago
@skingbinsane If my brain produced the best music ever, then does this mean that I am a genius composer? This explanation doesn’t make sense. Visions are happening inside my head, but the visions are so imaginative and so original, even better than CGI and more imaginative than any piece of art I have ever experienced. Then am I a genius artist too? Epileptics are describing vistas of weirdness like this. How are they producing all this stuff thats more real than this world? Strange stuff.
godno1god 8 months ago
@godno1god I'm not following your line of reasoning. Please take more time to think about what you are saying. Conceiving things in your mind doesn't mean you are a genius. If you can reproduce these visions onto canvas then maybe you are a gifted artist. If you are unable to do so then you are just a dreamer.... I suggest laying off the mind altering substances. LSD, Peyote etc produce the same visions you mention. Its created by your brain either by manipulation with drugs or damage
skingbinsane 8 months ago
@skingbinsane I agree.. it appears that we have an individual who's mind is involuntarily triggering the chemicals that allows him to experience an ascension, if you will, without adequately having acquired certain degrees of knowledge or mastership over the lower self.
gunz543 7 months ago 3
oh man, i had same experience when i overdosed fly agaric (amanita mushroom) once. it was soooo real hell & heaven.
samann95014 9 months ago
@samann95014 Exactly.... amanita is a etheogen like datura, ayuscha (sp?), peyote,belladona etc. makes you see gods, angels, demons, heaven hell etc.
skingbinsane 7 months ago
ramachandran should tackle shrooms
johnwolfe 10 months ago
You Tube "August 2009 Mind Experiment: Transcendence; Seeing everything as infinite oneness." And tell me what you think.
Erobeashema 11 months ago
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antsid24 1 year ago
John is 100% right in everything he says and thinks
antsid24 1 year ago
for more about the real reason for religion
go watch this.
Why We Believe in Gods - Andy Thomson - American Atheists 09
zencat999 1 year ago
Dear Ramachandran
I believe you have taken this completely wrong. This kid is going through an enlightenment. That is the expansion of his consciousness to the whole. And that of course is a bath with dopamine and oxytocin. And the only way that he can explain his witnessing state is by the words/philosophy/belief he has learned before.
This kid needs a guiedence.He needs to be trained to conceptualise what is happening to him .
tatliborek 1 year ago
@tatliborek @tatliborek he needs medical help for a disease you fool! thats NOT enlightenment.
you would keep this kid having violent debilitating seizures just to satisfy some warped idea of some kind of superstitious non sense?
THAT would be insanely immoral.
is that the kind of god(s) you follow?
go watch this and then go think about your delusion.
Why We Believe in Gods - Andy Thomson - American Atheists 09
zencat999 1 year ago
@tatliborek @tatliborek he needs medical help for a disease you fool! thats NOT enlightenment.
you would keep this kid having violent debilitating seizures just to satisfy some warped idea of some kind of superstitious non sense?
THAT would be insanely immoral.
is that the kind of god(s) you follow?
go watch this and then go think about your delusion.
Why We Believe in Gods - Andy Thomson - American Atheists 09
zencat999 1 year ago
I don't think anyone can say for sure that God is not real because that is the same as saying you know everything there is to know about the universe. I think you can only do probabilities and when I look at the universe and how complex it is I think God is the most likely cause. You then have to decide which God is real and when you look at all the religions of the world the Bible stands out and has a real historical person. Life is just full of questions.
tgamerlegend 1 year ago
@tgamerlegend no
GBJ83 1 year ago
I love the way he rolls his Rs
ooLevityoo 1 year ago
I'm a dinosaur looking for a scary city to dance in.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago 14
Thanks for uploading. Really interesting video.
Sykotix1 1 year ago
Sounds like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
20cigarrosconfiltro 1 year ago
Life is challenging enough without having Epilepsy added into the equation. I really feel for this guy.
As for religion. It's the biggest scam ever devised.
dirtydonki 1 year ago
Temporal lobe seizures can be created via self stimulation, or so I speculate.
For evidence I point to the Jesus Camp video, the 'holy rollers', and other enthusiastic charismatic religious practices. People can work themselves into a state of mental frenzy, or by worked into such a state by their environment, inducing religious or spiritual experiences, and 'proving' to themselves the reality of the god thing.
login667 1 year ago
@login667 Agree. I think -exactly this- experience is synonymous with a drugexperience, or a religious experience. It is stimulated by our environment - people, art, cars, roads, everything. But as this drugexperience is "on" all the time, and doesn't (feel like it ) changes, it isn't recognized, appreciated, and so on.
fjanton83 1 year ago
..contd the one that puts square or tree on mind is intellect. The one who is watching it is I the self.Just isolate all these processes and watch the other processes with calm as a silent witness. Just focus your intellect on temporal lobe and just be a silent witness!
abhi350071 1 year ago
you may not have seizures, but still you can experience the same if you have good structured thinking. Breakdown your thought process into external world, your body, your mind, your intellect and yourself. close your eyes and see your mind as a screen on which images, voices and senses are projected. Think the square a square picture comes on the screen, think about a tree or a house it comes on the screen.
abhi350071 1 year ago
@abhi350071 You are talking about imagination.
geezzerboy 1 year ago
Religions are not based on mystical experience. Look at the Bible, nowhere does it say anything about such experiences, it talks about law and history. In fact Freud said the Jewish race was superior because Jews never experienced the 'oceanic feeling'. Same with the religions of the ancient world, although some of the ecstatic mystery cults may have used drugs such as mushrooms, certainly the Bacchantes used wine, perhaps mixed with a hallucinogen such as belladonna.
colourmegone 1 year ago
No matter what you believe in, you will find all the proof, confirmation, examples and studies proving you right. But are you correct? Are you able to prove to all who want to know that the egg comes first? Or was it the chicken...
asachildtobecome 1 year ago
They try to change you but you are a reaction. I've had everything from punishments for being unwed (another world) to ex friends trying to implant information into my mind and say I'm stupid or anything else that won't work and encounters with like Yama. Oh, I got married. hehe Confusion. Chaos reigns. Most of these things are created from pain, and we question, so we seek. I'm not accepting shit and I don't believe in anything.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
Hehe.
Ashitakaandsan 1 year ago
As in schizophrenia it is easy to create God,Demons,Angels,UFO abductions, Alien delusions of natives creating landing strips in Nazca just Ingest Entheogens
Any mentally healthy aka Atheist person can see talk to god just like ANY Christophrenic or schizotypal person Becoming temporarily insane with Religious psychosis by simply ingesting Peyotl,LSD,ergot,toad milk,Datura flowers just like the ANCIENTS did before creating religious texts over 5000 yrs ago. They had NO idea the BRAIN cause it
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
this could explain the people with NDE, lol those people who go to heaven or hell
Atheist603 1 year ago
"I was in so much pain that I would rather be shot to death or... whipped to death." Keep that kid away from a hammer and nails whenever he's near a cross!
EdM021 1 year ago
what a great father he has.
merrmaide 1 year ago
what a wonderfully supportive father.
merrmaide 1 year ago
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brothersand 1 year ago
very interesting video
calvin09232009t 1 year ago
i got a similar impression while i used to read doyoestevesky one of the greatest story tellers.
killintymm 1 year ago
Dr Ramachandran is explaining where Christophrenia originated from
Religious beliefs are but another form of schizophrenia which goes by the name FAITH in GOD. Educated People that believe in gods & other deluded irrational concepts have a problem with their brains
Schizophrenics &religious folks ACCEPT imaginary friends as reality. There is no difference between the delusions of Schizophrenics or Christians. People of faith are a psychopathy waiting to happen. They must be treated in asylums
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
You obviously have never done research on schizophrenia...
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
How much researc you have to do to realize the BRAIN creates the MIND & that when one accepts an IMAGINARY FRIEND as REALITY, the brain is malfunctioning?
FYI Educated people that believe in GODS & other delusions have a PROBLEM with the brain, either scintillating scotoma, status epilepticus, schizotypy, etc
Schizophrenia is ONLY one out of MANY names..another is GEHIRN GESTOERT..please get educated I KNOW what I'm talking about, I have a SANE,aka atheism BRAIN.2+2=4 NOT 6
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
What a rational response...
?
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
Please watch this so you learn that when you believe in God & resurrected zombies & you are an educated person, you are a theoatard. Please make a note of it. This is RECENT discovery by neuroscientists.
h t t p : / / n e w s . y a h o o . c o m / s / l i v e s c i e n c e / 2 0 1 0 0 2 12 / s c _ l i v e s c i e n c e / l i n k s t o s p i r i t u a l i t y f o u n d i n t h e b r a i n
Also study evolutionary biology & genetics, I have.
Tempus omnia revelat.
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
The link would not work, but I found the article.
The study measured one variable that could possibly be related to spirituality, this is what could be called a possible spurious conclusion.
I am a graduate student researcher, so I know a bit about how studies work. The best argument you have to stand on here is the assumption that reductionist neuroscience will someday be able to explain the totality of human thought, which it has yet to do. By simply ridiculing religious people,
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
With you do not seem to understand is that the BRAIN is the creator of GOD & other delusions. You seem to be very ignorant of science. In your obvious Christophrenia or other fears, you ignore the fact that I'm simple a messenger that connect the dots of various disciplines. Just because it is not known HOW human thought works, we KNOW it originated in the brain & when it ACCEPTS imaginary friends ( all religions have one) as reality tis is defined as PSYCHOSIS, 2+2=4 not 5
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
...you only serve to make yourself look like an adolescent with an ax to grind.
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
..and you're making yourself look like an ignorant fool posting such nonsense. Scientists will laugh at you not me. My point is
We are evolved mutated PRIMATES that create God & other delusions with our BRAIN. This makes god & other imaginary friends NOT real. These delusions can be REPRODUCE operating your hippocampus,stimulating your T lobes, Locus coeruleus. Religious beliefs are based on accepting DELUDED CONCEPTS as FACT just like in schizophrenia
Again I'm just stating FACTS
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
I do not debate with CAPS-LOCK irritants. You obviously have a lot of deep personal reasons why you feel the need to converse in such a manner, and I will not presume, nor take it upon myself to act as your therapist. Instead, let me ask you something, why do you have faith that materialism is a correct representation of reality?
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
Please get educated, the BRAIN ( I capitalize the word so your deluded brain understand it) is the creator of the mind. Is is a personal reason for me to expose the truth & science backed up facts that you simply fail to understand due to your ignorance & no doubt distorted thinking produced Christophrenia?
Sorry truth hurts, But I only deal with FACTS, not the deluded puerile fairy tales produced in dopamine addicted in the brains of theotards. Please get a clue
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
thanks for addressing my point calpurn...
helpful hints for the lost,
1. I am far from being Christian.
2. Anger does not make your argument correct.
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
What part of we CREATED god & other delusions with our brains when they malfunction didn't you understand? You are not only lost but clueless about human cognition & what means to be an evolved mutated primate that CREATES god delusions with the brain to JUSTIFY his existence placing himself ABOVE animals.
Sorry dude, you ought to get that brain fixed so you understand where cognition & the psychosis of belief in god originates from.
Give it up 2+2=4 not 6 as you insist. LEARN
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
college12003 "why do you have faith that materialism is a correct representation of reality ? "
Please get educated the Brain which is a product of 3B yrs of evolution is composed of neurons passing information via electromagnetism. It creates god, not the other way arround. It is compose of matter, ATOMS, that became aware of its own existence. Our evolved primate brains created cognition. Faith is inversely proportional to knowledge & information. More the Faith more the ignorance. LEARN
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso - For a person who keeps using the refrain "get educated" you clearly do not have any sense of how educated discussions progress. Nor is your logic sound. Being able to reproduce an experience by sticking an electrode in the brain does not invalidate the experience. If that were the case then we would have to conclude that light and sound are also delusions, as we can reproduce them by moving the electrode to a different place in the brain. Facts != understanding facts.
brothersand 1 year ago
Additionally, finding that the human brain has a neural pathway dedicated to producing a sensation of "presence of god", and that this pathway is conserved in the entire human species, does not argue that our brains are hardwired for psychosis. Nobody knows what purpose such a pathway serves. Certainly there are hypotheses, but in order to be intellectually honest we must consider the possibility that being able to detect the presence of a "god" was an evolutionary benefit to our ancestors.
brothersand 1 year ago
@brothersand
Please understand the FACT the BRAIN is the creator of the MIND not the arse.
Accepting gods, demons, & other deluded fairy tales as FACT ( the delusion at the center of Religious faith) by educated folks is a sign of a delusion accepting disorder like in schizophrenia, TL epilepsy or cognitive dissonance.
We are in the 21st Century not 12th. There is NO GOD without a brain to conceive it, deal with this fact. To understand this FACT you need to be educated
God is a delusion
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso - Yes yes, very nice repetition. I'm well aware of the details of the brain. I have studied neuroscience. Is your position that there is also no light without a brain to conceive it? No momentum without a eustachian tube to perceive it? I suspect my education exceeds your own sir, I simply disagree with you. Notice that I am asking a question of logic. Your position that there can be no entity independent of human consciousness is a position of faith. Or can you prove it?
brothersand 1 year ago
@brothersand
Ignoring the facts of neurology & the LINK I provided is not going to make the FACTS presented disappear. There is NO need to study neurology to see the BRAIN is the CREATOR of the imaginary friends people of FAITH & SCHIZOPHRENICS see as REALITY
Don't forget mental illness doesn't discriminate,I suggest you STUDY your OWN brain. Its perception of reality can be AFFECTED by simply operating the hippocampus.Please LAND,learn about Francis Collins a scientist & Christophrenic Learn
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@brothersand
I suggest you see these articles where neuroscientists in Italy Feb 2010 have proven "spirituality' ( belief in gods ) is a result of damaged brains. Here learn the facts:
h t t p : / / n e w s . y a h o o . c o m / s / l i v e s c i e n c e / 2 0 1 0 0 2 1 2 / s c _ l i v e s c i e n c e / l i n k s t o s p i r i t u a l i t y f o u n d i n t h e b r a i n
Please remove your tunnel vision goggles & make the connections with various sciences to understand my point 2+2=4 not 5
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso - Your articles prove nothing. Damage one area of the brain = increased "spirituality". Damage another area = altered sense of time. Therefore neither God nor Time exist. See? That is a faulty chain of logic. _Everything_ is perceived through the brain whether real or not real. People with synesthesia can taste colors. Do colors exist or are they just fantasies of the brain?
brothersand 1 year ago
@brothersand
Au contraire. Keep burying your head in the sand IGNORING new discoveries it'll keep you retarded. I'm aware of the bicameral mind..which is CREATED by the BRAIN & which can be manipulated with an OPERATION, its perception of reality distorted which is my point
O si tacuisses philosophus manssises
Study Dr Shitij Kapur Univ of Toronto correlation between the levels of Dopamine & psychosis. Dr Persinger God Helmet. Delusions of schizophrenics & religious are identical in nature
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso - PS: may I suggest you get a bit of education yourself and read this book: "The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World" by Ian McGilchrist. It is an excellent book about the bicameral mind. You can find it on Amazon.
brothersand 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso - Also notice, I'm not arguing for the existence of a god, I'm simply pointing out that your logic is flawed. What is strange is that the brain has a mechanism that results in the perception of "spiritual presence". The evolution of this mechanism and the fact that it has been conserved in the entire human population is a great mystery to science. That is why we study it. What evolutionary advantage does it confer?
brothersand 1 year ago
@brothersand my logic that 2+2=4, that the BRAIN creates the MIND, & that delusions produced by an educated religious mind & that of an educated schizophrenic are the same is FLAWED? ..sorry dude, you better see a neurologist not infected by Christ-psychosis to teach you the facts.
Learn about evolutionary biology, genetics, geology, entheogens affecting thought, study Synesthesia, make the connections..NO MYSTERY to those who KNOW science, Please land.
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso - Ah, I see. You're retarded. I should have guessed. You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about and believe that the drunken stumble of your thought process is in some way logical. You are a religious zealot who has confused science for a religion and you understand it not at all. You can't even tell when you're babbling. We're done here.
brothersand 1 year ago
@brothersand
LOL..I see the truth I present hurts.
Remember, you were product of a F*CK not the stork. In your neurological turpitude & ignorance of science you fail to realize we are EVOLVED mutated primates that are BORN lacking belief (atheist ) & that we CREATE the MIND ( this includes supernatural concepts of spirits ) with our BRAINS
Learn what a DNA toolkit is. Study evolutionary biology.Read KOCH Quest for Consciousness.Yes loser operating your hippocampus PROVES my point 2+2=4 not 5
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
@calpurnpiso damn son god easy on him lol hahaha but that was good tho lol
Atheist603 1 year ago
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@calpurnpiso damn son go easy on him lol hahaha but that was good tho lol
Atheist603 1 year ago
@brothersand ''What evolutionary advantage does it confer?'' it may confer an evolutionary advantage to those who do not ''have it''.Those who master them.There is always a minority that rules.They create religions and usually get to be gods' representative on earth. Religious type invariably say they ''feel it'' when you break it down.This is another clue.
lipoicacid 1 year ago
college12003
Also google Scintillating scotoma & Hildegard of Bingen, then you'll understand what Dr Ramachandran is talking about
Sorry, I you believe in god you are either delays or extremely IGNORANT of science. We are in the 21st Century not the 12th
Also learn about Ellen White (19th C ) the Chistophrenia sufferer founder of the Adventists and William Miller & the Great disappointment of 1844
Goodle God in the Brain. I can teach you a lot about the brain.
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
It is obvious that you are here just to grind an ax. You failed to address my points and seem to have a lot of preconceived notions of who I am without any reason to do so. I just checked out your channel, and I must say. I am tremendously disappointed. I was nearly convinced that you were an undergrad in your early 20s. A man your age should have better learned how to conduct an intelligible debate rather than resorting to cheap slams and rhetoric.
college12003 1 year ago
college12003
So, why don't you ignore me theotard?..instead of coming for more punishment so I can slap your defective brain with facts?
I know truth hurts. Please study neurology. if you believe in god you're either a child, ignorant, deluded, retarded, ingested one amanita muscaria too many, or suffer from a delusions inducing disorder like schizophrenia
Give it up, you just keep proving my point. See a neurologist PLEASE. 2+2=4 not 6 as you insist. Get educated
calpurnpiso 1 year ago
I understand that you are not open-minded to possibilities outside of your perspective, so I will egress this discussion. I hope that you someday realize that the world is not so black and white as your comments suggest, and learn some respect for other views within structured debate, rather than seeking to degrade opponents who you know nothing about and insist of their ignorance without even considering their statements.
college12003 1 year ago
Cool Father-Son relatoinship. My son and me kind of have one like that. We talk shit all the time.
Superegio42 1 year ago
This guy looks like the indian Jeff Goldblum
PutItAway101 2 years ago
this is embarrassing, not only for this man, but the human race as a whole. his parents support his theology? videos like this truely make me concerned for the human race, and deeply troubled inside.
S3NYCK 2 years ago
why?
Sorry, I don't really get you. He is just reporting his findings.
gammebetaalpha 2 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about ?
PutItAway101 2 years ago
@S3NYCK: This isn't theology. It's theoretical neuroscience. And considering Ramachandran is renowned world over in this field, I'm sure his parents are proud of him.
InfernalApocalypse 1 year ago
I've got TLE. and the whole "believing you are god" thing is in nearly all TLE patients. But if you are sane enough still, you won't have the ego interfering. You will believe everyone is one facet of God. And quite honestly, that is true.
burchified 2 years ago
why live a life that is pointless? where there is nothing to gain? obviously, the majority of people deep down don't truly believe this... and if you think that's hard wired brain stuff, then go get that knife or gun out of the kitchen and see for yourself.
CCF01 2 years ago
@CCF01 amen to that
S3NYCK 2 years ago
Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and other religions need to be looked into in this light.
Ramshobraja 2 years ago 18
omg I was about to cry when I found out about this. I have had this and all this time I thought I was the anti-christ... I am do grateful
C0deZombie 2 years ago
@Ramshobraja exactly
Ashitakaandsan 1 year ago
@Ramshobraja Buddah never claimed to be a god more like guide.
SkepsisDub 1 year ago
DO YOU KNOW THE GOD CODE? THE COVER UP OF ALL GOVERNMENT AND ALL RELIGION HIDE IT THERE IS NOTHING TO BELIEVE IN BASE ON REALITY AND PURE LOVE TRUE CHRISTAN WOULD CONTROL THE WORLD IF 5 SINS ADD TO THE BIBLE 1 TAKEN OUT FEW STRONG TEACHING OF TRUTH AND BOUT DARK LAWS TO WATCH OUT FOR NO MAN WOULD BE TRICKED , VERY FEWS THING OF THE WORLD ARE BELIEFS THING OF GOD IS REALITY WITH NO BELIEFS AND MUCH LOVE THING HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE BIBLE AND ADD THAT SHOULD NOT THERE .
greenearthnazi20204u 10 months ago
@Ramshobraja funny you forgot the most important and advanced religion Hinduism. VS is Hindu. Christianity/Islam/Judaism are absolute garbage.
MahaVakyas 9 months ago
This video is a good response to an extreme experience of this condition. I agree with you everythingispointless. Everything is pointless, When you are there in the moment - the experience can be profound - and yet afterwards ?pointless. Consciousness doesn't deal with the aftermath. It becomes pointless especially over time. Yet always remains special. Oximoron. Language cannot describe the associations. No wonder thoughts of 'God' makes an association with this experience.
camij79 2 years ago
This is how religions are born.
thruthem 2 years ago 12
are you sure?,....Or you're assuming?. Those who assume will always end up making an ass of themselves.
Lahum ash'had
wahnano 2 years ago
No one can be really sure of anything 100%....
....BUT...
St. Paul, Jesus, Moses, Muhammed and even Joan of Arc - all of them and many other saints and prophets, self-proclaimed god-men / messiahs, fit the epileptic or some other disorder.
Even plain ordinary believers easily fit into one or more.
You didn't now that?
thruthem 2 years ago
Say, "O you ungrateful. "I do not believe what you believe. "Nor do you believe what I believe.
"Nor will I ever believe what you believe.
] "Nor will you ever believe what I believe. "To you is your religion, and to me is my religion."
wahnano 2 years ago
uuuh what?
I have no religion.
thruthem 2 years ago 2
Your religion is what you believe ...And we all have beliefs, it's has to do with the Eye of heart.
Do what you doing accordingly, I'am doing.
wahnano 2 years ago
i wouldnt say always..
ultimategoobah 2 years ago
@thruthem don't forget the religion of "normal life" also. This is certainly the strongest and most widespread religion.
fjanton83 1 year ago
@thruthem Perhaps there is an element of this in the origins of some religions but the phenomena is far more complex than that.
amaxamon 1 year ago
I wonder what the connection with psychedelic drugs is with the temporal lobes, coz thats the exact feeling u get when u do those drugs
monsieurhassan 2 years ago
its more like you can insert your own ideas and organizations onto things, not a matter of 'exactly like', 'insight', or anything else. its the simulation of insight through having things re-defined, in my best interpretation anyway
tyrannicoystercult 2 years ago
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monsieurhassan 2 years ago
hmm so if it is a simulation, then the simulation is of something real .. . a simulation can't exist of something that doesn't exist . . . and if so, a simulation can be helpful in understanding the real thing
monsieurhassan 2 years ago
I have had many temporal lobe seizures. ive hallcuianted entire other realities, deities, spirits, god satan, being one with the cosmos. TLE usually gets diagnosed 'schizophrenic' which is really just an umbrella term for this stuff, and psychiatrists like to exploit people with neurological complications. I dont take any meds and am in college. I just do vitamins. Have to say, for a little bit I was kinda addicted tot he hallucaintions they provide incredible insight, but can be dangerous.
newmoongathering 2 years ago 3
The idea that near death experiences result from oxygen deprivation to the brain is incorrect. Look at the work of Dr. Melvin Morse. If you want to know about the inventions people have gleamed from this altered state of consciousness, I suggest you read the NDE of Mellen Thomas Benedict. He talks about how he was given ideas for inventions that use light to heal. The man was also clinically dead for over an hour.
timi0000 2 years ago
"He talks about how he was given ideas for inventions that use light to heal."
I see. Do those "inventions" actually work? Or did he just hallucinate badly and come up with insane ideas?
Anyway, I don't understand how his revelation would count as evidence for you or anyone else. If he was lying, how would you know?
Gnomefro 2 years ago
timi0000 What are those patent numbers on the inventions that Dr. Morse invented? Your getting close to evidence but so far it's just a story to me.
generationalist 2 years ago
wtf
baknediycem 2 years ago
What a load of rubbish. I have temporal lobe epilepsy and trust me there's no God involved
lizzie86657 2 years ago
it said "some" for a reason, douche!
Senat0rG0vernment 2 years ago
I don't understand why people use this research as an argument AGAINST God.
I see it as an argument FOR the belief in God - that God so beautifully designed us to include in our brains an area that is set to be receptive for Him.
fg6215 2 years ago
Well, He also have included schizophrenia.
CyberaxIzh 2 years ago
fg6215, why cannot we use this research as an argument against god?
DTBSAI 2 years ago
Well, all our beliefs about what is "real" (i.e. matter) is reducible to neural correlates in the brain too. Even the belief in a world external to myself is produced in the brain. If someone thinks that this shows the concept of God to be a fabrication, then they would have to say that about everything else that is perceptible.
timi0000 2 years ago
timi0000, that is one of the stupidest arguments going around for a long time.
DTBSAI 2 years ago
That belief is also reducible to activity in the brain, thereby making it invalid. I don't think reducing experiences to areas of the brain is grounds for explaining it away.
timi0000 2 years ago
timi0000 If you are not a creationist, what is your explanation then?
DTBSAI 2 years ago
For the record, I'm not a creationist. I think that our brain has access to, if you will, dimensions, that we don't have in normal waking consciousness. People who have had near death experiences report having new insights and inventions that are successfully employed in the real world. You can't attribute this to a random misfiring. I'm sure there is a biological basis to all these unusual experiences, but it by no means invalidates them.
timi0000 2 years ago
timi0000 ok, so what are you saying different from VSR? And dont you think the good doctor is spending plenty of time researching the subject? What are your credentials?
DTBSAI 2 years ago
those near death experiences have been explained to be hallucinations caused by oxygen deprivation. And could you provide examples of the inventions you speak about? Also, how can them being biologically explainable not be grounds to invalidate them as what they are: hallucinations and delusions caused by these biological factors?
religiousinadequacy 2 years ago
Not true. Oxygen deprivation does not cause hallucination's. Get scientific evidence from Pim van Lommel. Which mechanism triggers the hallucination, which properties of the cell's are responsible for the hallucination? You should have provided an example.
klumpatratsch 2 years ago
Klumpatratsch - Pim van Lommel is a doctor with confirmation bias trying to prove a belief. Lommel uses biased patient testimony as evidence which would be ok in a court of law but in science it's the equivalent of trying to publish the crap on a used piece of toilet paper as evidence of god. Testimonials are worthless bring us some real data.
generationalist 2 years ago
No, he is not trying to prove anything. The gist of his argument is about consciousness.That boils all down to the good old measurement problem and even scientists fail to provide real data.Extrapolating from this, we are back to square one - what is real?
klumpatratsch 2 years ago
Klumpatratsch - you brought PVL in as a scientist with evidence as per your previous comment. I looked him up and he is NOT a scientist he is a cardiologist. He did 1 study on 322 people and NO research. This is NOT EVIDENCE. Science makes no claim to what is REAL. It starts from 1 assumption - reality exists. Given that assumption all research is derived NOT believed. YOU assume multiple realities with interference patterns in order to sustain your BELIEF in your god of your neural gaps. gog.
generationalist 2 years ago
You are mistaken.How can you say that scientists make no claim on what reality is but at the same time you define evidence as it suits you.Also, you simply can't possibly know what I assume by using an assumption ( that reality does exist) in order to profile yourself intellectually.I never stated or claimed your multiple realities with interference pattern.Finally, no where did I mention god.What else are you telling yourself about other people?Get real and get a girlfriend, pal..
klumpatratsch 2 years ago
1st you assume I'm a man and also unmarried. 2nd the assumption made in association with NDE is a belief in alternate realities. 3rd all systems of logic are derived with inherent foundational assumptions. Science starts with the - assumption - that reality exists and since it exists all natural laws aka understanding of reality can be derived through observation and research. Nothing is claimed real it is assumed to be real by the preponderance of repeatable evidence also assumed to be real.
generationalist 2 years ago
Look klumpatratsch, you really don't get this whole perceived reality thing do you? We as a species based on perception assume reality. That is a neurological foundation. Even the neurons in our brain are assumed to be real. All of these things are a singular assumption - reality exists. NDE proposes an alternate reality exists and meta data derived from testimonials of patients is assumed to be evidence and not just biased hearsay. What physical NDE event transpires to express a super-reality?
generationalist 2 years ago
Finally klumpatratsch go back and reread my comments I did NOT say scientists make no claim on what reality is I said - science makes no claim. Science is method of research a scientist is a person. I can understand how this must be difficult for you to grasp when you can't even keep the context of the argument straight.
generationalist 2 years ago
Finally, a claim on what reality is has already been made, by many persons.
Maybe you see why it was unecessary for me to keep your argument straight. The properties and behaviour of electrons do suggest many realities, according to David Deutsch, which he suggests in his book "The fabric of reality". (Also Heisenberg,Schroedinger,Einstein,Planck concluded the same- eeeeaaaaarrliiieeeer).Anyway,I am getting tired with churning out other people's assumptions and findings - ; ).
klumpatratsch 2 years ago
There are no NDE events which do transpire a super reality, which I have never implicated.But in many cases people are able to form new memories or have knowledge which they pror to the nde hadn't had.
klumpatratsch 2 years ago
Not only are you a world class physicist klumpatratsch but a world renowned neurologist as well - unlike Pim van Lommel who is a heart surgeon, a technician of sorts and NOT a neurologist. Oh but wait, aren't you defending claims by PVL relating to neurology and trying to tie them to arguments of super reality aka a multiverse? Consider yourself peer reviewed.
generationalist 2 years ago
What does getting a girlfriend have to do with it? I'll let you in on a little secret: anger and irritation can muddle the mind, can distort reality perception.
Perhaps religious folk at least were onto something with the idea of control and cleansing of emotion/self thing... it certainly has its benefits.
CCF01 2 years ago
Dear Dr. Ramachandran, you have a gift .
because of your clarity I became interested in this subject
thank you and good luck to you
125sea 2 years ago 2
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dr. pls smoke some DMT u will not make another video.
otherlogic 3 years ago
commenter, learn more about neuroscience, particularly neuropharmacology and n-methyl-d-aspartate and you will not make another comment.
joeycaswellrocinante 2 years ago 4
indeed. Though I'm not sure where you're going with the NMDA receptor thing, other than in terms of epilepsy. DMT is a tryptamine.
rrritalin 2 years ago
NMDA receptors / ketamine = near death experience phenomena
joeycaswellrocinante 2 years ago
When the kid walked outside and thought he was God. His dad said: "You better get inside, or else someone will call the cops", and the kid says: "No one will call the cops" ... 'on GOD'. Awesome line. Awesome!
maniactor011x 3 years ago
'vodka martinis' my ass, this dude smoked salvia
hl2alyx 3 years ago 2
I hope he was smoking weed....it's a legitmate medicinal treatment. My boyfriend smokes to treat epilepsy. Without it he gets very dizzy and is more likely to have a seizure.
fracturedpsychi 3 years ago
same here , weed and T.E.P go together well for a while but after a few days without any weed the seizures get real real bad and the thc doesnt help the psycotic episodes we all suffer at some point during our lifetimes , doctors are very hesitant to diagnose this as they cant have any definitive proof, and most people who suffer from this take or have taken drugs at some point in there life and doctors seem to think its side effects of the drugs ( ignorant bastards) , this is a fucked up thing
DarinTeven1988 2 years ago
this video is good for medical student to learn more abaut epilepsy. keep on making video that can give more knowlage for other people
irmaramdani 3 years ago
Who knew God might come down in the form of a dude who runs down the street doing pelvic thrusts againt people.
;-)
notbendable 3 years ago 7
He got brought to tears from remembering how he feels when he has seizures lmao
"I've done all kinds of drugs, and been with women... and I just go.. 'you don't understand, maaaan'."
AHAHA That guy is tripping so hard!
They should make TLE into a pill and give it to everyone :)
Shemjazashai 3 years ago 3
oh no, believe, it can be no pleasant at all, we're talking about a very serious issue, it can be inspiring for the arts, but it really does affect your life too.
yidneth 2 years ago
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Ramachandran is like an Indian version of neil tyson degrasse
decreation 3 years ago
Umm Tyson is an Astrophycisist, VS Ramachandran is a Nuerologist.
How are they similar?
rmeddy1 3 years ago
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he's a brown scientist with a bushy mustache I guess
Blackliam 2 years ago
LOL
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
was what I said really that offensive?
I can't even remember what it was and now its downrated to hell and i can't see it
I thought I just pointed out that they had bushy mustaches or some shit as a joke... whatever...
Blackliam 2 years ago
I took it as a silly comment, don't worry about it man, some people take things way too serious on here.
MysteryManoLove 2 years ago
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Do you like anal sex sweety??
soundoflight 3 years ago
Its called an out of body experience. I can induce one every so often when waking up in the morning and observe my room and house while fully independent of my body.
AllahConsciousness 3 years ago
Collective schizophrenia!
The more the lie is big, the more people believe in it!
It's a shame sometime to be a human when I look around and see all those scared religious lost people. Too afraid to accept the burden of consciousness. They look toward the past only without never evolving, science look toward the future and the past!
soundoflight 3 years ago 3
so, this is how religion originated :P
magnus099 3 years ago 2
"so, this is how religion originated :P"
Yup, that's what all the evidence points to.
bamboo4tameshigiri 3 years ago 7
In psychiatry they would call it paranoid schizophrenia. In more respectable terms, its define as religious experience...
costixx 3 years ago
weak statement.
radurak 3 years ago
love it
soundoflight 3 years ago
heh, i have this kind of epilepsy.
I don't have that many seisures really, but I recognize the feeling of understanding the universe. How everything fits together.
I have also had the other ones. The ones where you feel like your soul is beeing ripped in two. If you can imagine being in a situation where you know you are going to die in five seconds, it's like that. Over and over again for five minutes.
I don't think it's a religious experience really, or maybe I'm the Messiah?
jCwel 3 years ago 4
Yes, please save us all oh mighty Messiah.
Cleroth 3 years ago