@stajvson I guess the guy with KQ could represent a full house or something but there's no strong hands that the guy with 86 would play like that imo. (Then again I'm readless and he might suck and check nuts to the river a lot so i don't know)
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both read well, they know their opponent has nothing, both bluff well, firing the bullet until their last chips, in the end good fold by crain who realized there's no way de michelle holding a kicker lower than 8.
Good example of great poker, incredible example of donk video titling.
guys, that exactly the reason he put the stupid title, because of all you haters. he knows that you gonna hate him and write a comment. that brings him more comments, more klick, and propably some money :-)
Even though the KQ won, how dumb can you be to bet that large a percentage of your stack with nothing? Thats way too big a risk. You have four different cards on the table. There is a VERY good chance that the other player has a pair. Putting myself in DeMichelle's shoes, I'd figure I can't win unless I pair the king or the queen. I mean, Crain kept putting money in. You have to assume he has something (though he didn't). I guess both players played dumb.
@JSSTyger Please refrain from commenting on anything poker related ever again. There are so many reasons why this is a fantastic spot for KQ to bluff. (Let me preface this by saying we know nothing of any physical reads DeMichelle has) Once Crain chooses to 3 bet the turn he is polarizing his range quite heavily. The board is so, so, so dry that it really is a nuts or nothing situation. Crain's problem is his 3 bet size. He had to move in. He raised a scared 40k more... 100k all in was the move
Problem is neither player could really rep anything big. 2? Unlikely card for both to have. A boat? Again, very low percentage hit. So it was just down to who has the bigger balls.
does anybody know the video where the guy says ' you gave it away' when he has to make a call. Then the other guy says i has aces and he says 'that a worlds class laydown'. while the whole time the other guy was bluffing.
I love how the title of this is poker embarrassment..If you replace these guys with two superstars the title would immediately change to "Brilliant poker bluff vs. bluff"
Nope not embarassing. The best players know when not to gamble and fold big cards. With 2-9-2-5 showing and he only has k-q, it was possible the guy had 5-2 making a full house. So folding the winning had in this situation isn't bad or embarrassing. That's where the skill comes in and I wish I could play as well as these guys.
Excuse me sir, but if you feel you'll feel embarrased by a fail attempt to bluff, maybe you should not play poker at all. this was a great read and play from both players. you have to bluff in poker if you want to make money consistently, and in order to make succesful bluffs you have to make mistakes and learn from them. So yeah, you should change the title of this video.
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Even though he shouldn't be, Crain announces that he's embarrassed in a spot where he would never be lying, so why are people arguing that he's not? If he feels embarrassed, then this is embarrassment, even though non-result oriented poker players won't see this play as embarrassing.
Honestly, i find the play of demichele to be bad, even if he won the pot. From the story the announcers told, it seems as if he was just running out of chips and couldnt let go of a pretty looking hand.
You see it often among beginners, they keep betting/calling with a hand like ace queen after they have missed the flop and the turn.
It was a semibad play, it was preaty clear that the one to push all in first would win, they re-re-raised too mutch, it didnt take mutch to figure out they had a bit of fear in theyr moves.
...the title of this video is appropriate, hence Crain stating how "it feels like to be caught with his pants down on national TV."
He was indeed, embarrassed. :-)
These moronic youtubers are over-thinking the obvious, to fit their already bloated egos. Nobody ever stated anything about a bad play...
I mean, look at Idiot(s) down here, for example, who actually stated how the uploader "didn't know shit about poker" just because he titled this video as such??! lol... wow...
I love how the title of this is poker embarrassment..If you replace these guys with two superstars the title would immediately change to "Brilliant poker bluff vs. bluff"
@rossm21uk demichelle aka "the idiot with KQ" made the 2rd in the 50k wsop horse 3 years ago to win 1,2M.. how often did u survive players like doyle brunson, phil ivey and daniel negreanu in a 50k tournament?
@toreman81 why do you think they represent AA? 99 would check that flop a lot to let the other player catch up. even 55 could play it that way. its very unlikley someone has a deuce. the all in was driven because a) dry board. and B) the chip leader could easily be making a move here a lot because of that board.
awful line taken by both players, what are either of them representing? Would deMichelle even move all in that quickly on the turn with AA after the other guy 4bet him?
they both made good plays at each other, Crain just ran out of possible moves... obv he can't call the all-in. or can he? hahah he should have just called it off that would have been great to watch.
ok then explain what he's repping there? He's in position. What possible hand calls button checks flop behind and then bets and reraises the turn there. I'd say somewhere in the range of none, but I'm bad so enlighten me. There's 80k in the pot and there's something like 60k left in demichelle's stack.
@SurvivingTheHorizon You want me to explain what's happening in this video? That's exactly why you're a bad player. You need someone to explain why what you said was retarded...
@fatsomamacheese logic then dictates that you're calling demichelle an idiot for shoving- because the thought process I went through is exactly what he went through. If so, fine, results don't dictate correct plays. Nevertheless he was, right.
@SurvivingTheHorizon You don't get it. You really don't get it. This isn't about the poker hand that played out in the video. This is about one of the most important and least understood attributes of poker on youtube videos.
When it's not your money, when you're not at the table, when you don't know the hands that have been played before this, YOU DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. You whackados that watch ONE hand in a whole series and think you can play that hand better are seriously lost...
I think what you say has a ton of relevance for many hands seen on youtube, here however I disagree. Logic dictates the way the hand is played that Crain is bluffing almost every time here - it's very hard to rep anything, how often does a player not just Crain, but any player with say, a set here? probably never. This is not a player specific read, nor does it require a player specific read in my opinion - the fact remains that Crain can represent nothing, regardless of his playing style.
@SurvivingTheHorizon And if Crain has a read on DeMichelle that he has nothing? Look, I know I probably come off like an asshole, but it's because every single God forsaken poker vid on youtube has about 1400 comments saying "Oh what a retarded move, it's obvious he's bluffing/has a monster/is on a draw/is trying to buy the pot" etc etc etc etc etc. It's not intelligent, it's annoying and sometimes I just have to start swinging.
I think you're right, Crain picked up on something that is either physical tell, beyond my comprehension, or just an insane move! But there's two aspects to a good bluff - one knowing what your opponent has (getting them off of what they are representing/getting them off a bluff) but two, telling a consistent story about what it is you are representing. Against a lesser player, Crain's move will work, but against a player who can read well - Crain's play makes no sense. thats how i see it
@fatsomamacheese Considering that you are the proverbial donkey that does not even consider postion, pot odds, stack sizes, or table image when making decisions at the poker table, you're not even on my level to be making comments. You just stick to putting all your chips in preflop buddy, it's the only way you can beat better players.
@Tehui1974 Whatever you say. You're the one who tried to regurge what you read in your how to poker book about position, pot odds, and stack sizes. Was that the introduction or the beginning of chapter one.
You don't know what hands played before this, you don't know how each player reacted to other hands, you don't know who might be setting what up. You came to youtube and attempted to make a brilliant comment about a hand and then got your feelings hurt when I smacked you.
@fatsomamacheese The only one who takes themselves seriously around here is you. A simple peruse through your posts to other people suggests that you are an arrogant joker. There's plenty of your ilk on the internet. I don't take you seriously - as a poker player, and as a person.
@Tehui1974 My ilk, if there is one, is made up of people who are annoyed at seeing some retarded comment on every single poker vid on youtube about how horrible the play was. If you weren't so busy attempting to figure out a way to insult me maybe you could find the objectivity inside yourself to see that. I also wonder why you think I would give a crap what you think about me or anything else for that matter...
@fatsomamacheese So you get annoyed at people criticising people's play on youtube, yet you criticise their criticism? Good philosophy bro, you're going to the top.
@Tehui1974 It is a good philosophy. You see while you are no where near the level of the people you're commenting about with your "DUR DATS A BAD MOOV", I most certainly consider myself your equal at the very least intellectually.
@fatsomamacheese You're funnier than you think, but unfortunately for you, you're nowhere near as smart as you think. LET'S ANALYSE THIS HAND. I'll be keen to know what you think Craine was trying to represent, and what kind of range he put DeMichelle on. If you are able, I would be keen to know the history that led up to this hand, what table image each player had until this point (if you deem it relevant), and why Craine thought he could steal the pot here.
@Tehui1974 I have no clue what the table image was each player had, and I have no idea what the history is leading up to this hand...
...wait for it...
and neither do you. And that's my point knucklehead. Are you starting to understand it yet? It is impossible to analyze this hand with just this video...IMPOSSIBLE.
IMPOSSIBLE, the opposite of possible, synonymous with 'not doable' or 'not possible'. Learn more than the basics and you'll get it. :D
@Tehui1974 "what you think Craine was trying to represent, and what kind of range he put DeMichelle on."
I realized I had already answered this once in this thread and so I'll repeat myself to you.
Let's imagine Tehui1974 that Craine has a tell on DeMichelle and has a good feeling he has nothing...which is correct. He tries to steal a pot, DeMichelle pushes back, Craine trusts his read (which is still correct) and pushes again. And DeMichelle goes all in leaving him no choice but to fold.
@Tehui1974 But you don't think about that. You watch a single vid and think you have the whole story and post "HORRIBLE BLUFFZ!" and you do that because you are not a very good poker player. You may do well with your buddies at the dinner table, but you will never be able to play at even an advanced level.
@fatsomamacheese You're an arrogant idiot, who has an over inflated view of their own poker ability. I like beating guys like you, because you lack metacognitive knowledge, and grossly underestimate your opponents.
@Tehui1974 This is glorious lol. You are commenting how I underestimate my opponents yet you're the one trying to label my metacognition as lacking. What evidence you have to know anything about my own poker skills and metacognition is non-existent while you make your bold claim that I am an arrogant idiot lol...
Has someone said that too you before and you're just regurgitating it? I do realize it's hard to do anything but ad hominem in your position, but this is embarrassing.
@fatsomamacheese It's very obvious to see that while you can dish it out, you can't take it. For example, you make grandiose statements such as "I most certainly consider myself your equal at the very least intellectually" - yet you can't handle it when people question your own poker ability. I come across people like you regularly - people with fragile egos with brittle self esteem. Normally I let them do their own thing, but since you started this little debate, I'm calling you out son.
@Tehui1974 Funny, I come across someone like you on pretty much every poker vid on youtube. You're calling me out? What are you calling me out on? Are you calling me out because I was wrong about my analysis of the hand? Because you haven't said shit about that and that's what we were talking about. Not fragile egos or poker ability. Does me being right mean that I have a fragile ego for commenting...SON lol...
@fatsomamacheese Okay, let's get back to the hand little man. It was a bad bluff attempt by Craine. You know why? Because it failed. I don't need to know what the history was. I don't care whether he was playing super tight up until this point, whether he had three bet every time with the nuts previously, whether he had been slow playing big pocket pairs preflop, or whether he just had a good read on DeMichelle's weakness. Even though he had position and the big stack, he still FAILED.
@Tehui1974 Let's analyze what you just said now lol...
You admit you don't know what the hand history was.
You admit you don't know if he was playing super tight or loose as hell.
You admit you don't know if he has a read on DeMichelle.
Yet you base your claim it was a bad bluff on the fact that it didn't work now? So any bluff that doesn't work is a horrible bluff? You don't think the skill of the other player should be factored in? How long have you been playing poker?
@fatsomamacheese I'll repeat this to you slowly, so you understand. Craine's bluff was bad because it failed. DeMichelle's bluff was good because it suceeded. I appreciate that to consistently win poker tornuments you need to bluff now and again. It's why players like Ivey, Dwan and Cunningham are so good, because they are so great at it. If given the opportunity to play you in a game, I'd gladly you kick your sorry ass off the table, and I wouldn't need to catch cards to do so.
@Tehui1974 It was a great bluff. DeMichelle countered it with an even better bluff. That bluff would have run you out of the hand. That bluff would have run 99% of people out of the hand. It was a great bluff. Your dumb ass is too stupid to admit that even after I analyzed the hand for you, explained how you don't know the history, or whether or not either has a tell on the other.
The myriad of facts you DON'T know about the hand should make you realize you should not type dumb comments.
@Tehui1974 You are reduced to "It was a bad bluff because it didn't work" lol...that's like little kid talk. Are you a wittle baby? Baby needs his diapew changed?
Be a man and admit you got caught acting big and tough on youtube about something you really aren't very good at.
@fatsomamacheese Bro, you're embarrssing yourself. Your immature goading says more about you than it does about me. And your flawed analysis of this hand just proves how inferior you are to the average joe poker player. I strongly recommend that you go see a counsellor about your inadequacy issues.
@Tehui1974 My flawed analysis? Please, thrill us all with your opinion again. Tell me where that analysis was flawed, as my analysis basically consisted of admitting we have to know more about the previous hands and what tells the players think they have.
You even admitted as such, then went on to say you think the bluff was horrible because it failed. So whether or not the bluff was performed well depends on the skill of professional DeMichelle to spot it? That's some damn good logic bro...lol
@Tehui1974 Good, leave and concede. You have no response to dignify this conversation with. Pretend you're 'above' it though if it makes you feel better.
@fatsomamacheese Just stick to the low limit tables, and keep going all in preflop. It's obviously your best chance of ever winning chips at a poker table.
Do you think of youtube debates as you do poker bluffs? If I stop responding it means you won and your argument was good no matter how retarded you sound, etc? Just like how you think his bluff was obviously horrible because it didn't work?
I wonder how many areas of your life you use that logic for. You cook food and because someone eats it you assume it was good food.
He can't be embarrassed, he folded lol
joelyjoelyjoelyJOELY 5 hours ago
I wish he would have shown the 6 8
Kentmoney53 3 weeks ago
@Kentmoney53 yeah but that would be a stupid move in case he needed to bluff again.
SuicideHotline123 18 hours ago
@SuicideHotline123 yeah but it would have made him feel sick and the look on his face would have been pretty funny.
Kentmoney53 6 hours ago
This vid is weird ad i can't figure out what they're trying to represent.
stajvson 3 weeks ago
@stajvson I guess the guy with KQ could represent a full house or something but there's no strong hands that the guy with 86 would play like that imo. (Then again I'm readless and he might suck and check nuts to the river a lot so i don't know)
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ahhh brilliant call from Norman about the walking cap !!
shaggz20022002 1 month ago 2
Excellent video, brilliant play, shit title!
supercacti 1 month ago
This is retarded it's not a horrible bluff it was a decent one he just got out played
rookie16 1 month ago
Double bluff to all in.
squeegepelto 1 month ago
change the title for gods sake
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ENTERRAPTURE20 2 months ago
What a fucking play by DeMichell
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shaun82911 3 months ago
both read well, they know their opponent has nothing, both bluff well, firing the bullet until their last chips, in the end good fold by crain who realized there's no way de michelle holding a kicker lower than 8.
Good example of great poker, incredible example of donk video titling.
lolipedofin 3 months ago 2
Title should be: Great poker hand leads to a youtuber embarrassing himself
TheRiverSuckout 3 months ago 6
Great Play . Both Of Them
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Mudasarcold 3 months ago
embarrassment?????this is PURE poker you idiot uploader
nothing vs nothing and the most aggresive nothing wins
dervinio1991 3 months ago 2
embarrassment because of the comment about being caught with his pants down?
New987user 3 months ago
the guy under me is an idiiot
crashdaveAAKK 3 months ago
@crashdaveAAKK an illiterate idiot
shroey20 2 months ago
guys, that exactly the reason he put the stupid title, because of all you haters. he knows that you gonna hate him and write a comment. that brings him more comments, more klick, and propably some money :-)
r4ffi 3 months ago
@r4ffi you're retarded.
RentIsToDamnHigh 2 months ago
whats the deal? big stack pushed it as far as he could, small stack played brilliant...the only embarrassment here is the fuckin uploader...
fowzie777 3 months ago
Even though the KQ won, how dumb can you be to bet that large a percentage of your stack with nothing? Thats way too big a risk. You have four different cards on the table. There is a VERY good chance that the other player has a pair. Putting myself in DeMichelle's shoes, I'd figure I can't win unless I pair the king or the queen. I mean, Crain kept putting money in. You have to assume he has something (though he didn't). I guess both players played dumb.
JSSTyger 4 months ago
@JSSTyger Please refrain from commenting on anything poker related ever again. There are so many reasons why this is a fantastic spot for KQ to bluff. (Let me preface this by saying we know nothing of any physical reads DeMichelle has) Once Crain chooses to 3 bet the turn he is polarizing his range quite heavily. The board is so, so, so dry that it really is a nuts or nothing situation. Crain's problem is his 3 bet size. He had to move in. He raised a scared 40k more... 100k all in was the move
Louie212121 3 months ago 2
Pwned
upkar88 4 months ago
Problem is neither player could really rep anything big. 2? Unlikely card for both to have. A boat? Again, very low percentage hit. So it was just down to who has the bigger balls.
agent008t 4 months ago
Great play by both, and whoever thinks bluffing is an embarassement cant play poker
sotirisp16 4 months ago
uploader is such a dumbass omg.
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champions20000009 4 months ago
does anybody know the video where the guy says ' you gave it away' when he has to make a call. Then the other guy says i has aces and he says 'that a worlds class laydown'. while the whole time the other guy was bluffing.
nagga123456789 4 months ago
stupid title = stupid uploader and a very bad player
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pokerblazers1 4 months ago
Heres my dilemma, i like the video, But dislike your title...what to do, what to do...hmmm
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@Aaronlime1 Yes, i agree. Great moves. Someone was just able to stick all there chips in first.
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@Aaronlime1 You judge based on how you want the uploader to feel, and the uploader didnt make the video he just put it up so vote down my friend!
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@Aaronlime1 I disliked...
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hi yall! found this video while browsing thank goodness eric didnt actually pull his pants down right?
MichaelDeMichele 5 months ago
Tittle FAIL
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champions20000009 5 months ago
I don't see what's so embarissing with it. It was a great play from both...
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I love how the title of this is poker embarrassment..If you replace these guys with two superstars the title would immediately change to "Brilliant poker bluff vs. bluff"
bestpokercoach 5 months ago
Not embarrasing at all... great play on both sides of the table.
juventino23 5 months ago
@juventino23 Nice job repeating what the top comment says.
Minsheme 5 months ago
this -know it all you tube poker expert- comments are more embarrassings
deunasolavez1 5 months ago
Interesting hand but both were good plays.
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godzac 5 months ago
Nope not embarassing. The best players know when not to gamble and fold big cards. With 2-9-2-5 showing and he only has k-q, it was possible the guy had 5-2 making a full house. So folding the winning had in this situation isn't bad or embarrassing. That's where the skill comes in and I wish I could play as well as these guys.
SkyX19 5 months ago
Excuse me sir, but if you feel you'll feel embarrased by a fail attempt to bluff, maybe you should not play poker at all. this was a great read and play from both players. you have to bluff in poker if you want to make money consistently, and in order to make succesful bluffs you have to make mistakes and learn from them. So yeah, you should change the title of this video.
moctezuma2008 5 months ago
excellent read and all in bet!
lewnik69 6 months ago
That wasn't embarressing at all
jmacspoker 6 months ago
Crain was putting pressure...since his opp checked on the flop.
TRexBAKARoSe 6 months ago
He didn't show the bluff... i like him,
MrJonnyboy36 6 months ago
This title comes from someone who knows nothing about poker, nothing embarrassing, good read from both, stopped Crain by all in from Michel
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rosenborg7 6 months ago
what's so embarissing?
fraierrau 6 months ago
8-6=auto fold
unwashedbrains 6 months ago
i was waiting for the 8-6 guy to call and a 7 to pop up.... THAT would be embarassing.... what the fuck is this?
J4C0853N 7 months ago
What an amazing read and play by DeMichelle. Goddamnit I love this sport
padobah 7 months ago
I also dont see whats so embarissing here. stupid video name
firestorm339 7 months ago
"I CALL!" *bam* seven on the river...
louish2 7 months ago
@louish2 Now if that had happened, I would have said AMAZING play.
kdreamland 7 months ago
you wanna see what i played...no no no its ok ill see it on tv in a lil while lol
JohnyLeeEnglish 7 months ago
DON'T WATCH THAT SHIT THIS ISNT SUCH A BAD PLAY AT ALL.
crunk4124 7 months ago
more like the tilte of this video is embarrassment ,
dozn01 7 months ago
Even though he shouldn't be, Crain announces that he's embarrassed in a spot where he would never be lying, so why are people arguing that he's not? If he feels embarrassed, then this is embarrassment, even though non-result oriented poker players won't see this play as embarrassing.
deanneugebauer 7 months ago
I don't understand the raise with KQ. Why risk the hand and turn it into a bluff when it could easily be good?
JTNugget 7 months ago
@JTNugget you don't get poker lol
mikeaprice09 7 months ago
@mikeaprice09 My stats say otherwise. How much have you made so far this year?
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mikeaprice09 7 months ago
Honestly, i find the play of demichele to be bad, even if he won the pot. From the story the announcers told, it seems as if he was just running out of chips and couldnt let go of a pretty looking hand.
You see it often among beginners, they keep betting/calling with a hand like ace queen after they have missed the flop and the turn.
superjeff14 7 months ago
embarrassment ??? what a dumbass
geoper2 8 months ago
wtf? it´s a nice hand...
lombingo 8 months ago
that was a good play
thechronokills 8 months ago
It was embarassing because he only have to pay 20k for the all in! hes getting about 7:1 and he folded therefore embarrassment
Naranja41 8 months ago
It was a semibad play, it was preaty clear that the one to push all in first would win, they re-re-raised too mutch, it didnt take mutch to figure out they had a bit of fear in theyr moves.
PetrusDaniel 8 months ago
a reraise on a rainbrow dry board is always a bluff.
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Primuzzzz 8 months ago
what an awful fold
levilevelivel 8 months ago
...the title of this video is appropriate, hence Crain stating how "it feels like to be caught with his pants down on national TV."
He was indeed, embarrassed. :-)
These moronic youtubers are over-thinking the obvious, to fit their already bloated egos. Nobody ever stated anything about a bad play...
I mean, look at Idiot(s) down here, for example, who actually stated how the uploader "didn't know shit about poker" just because he titled this video as such??! lol... wow...
5 star idiocy.
1Two9Face8Tony5 9 months ago 3
someone busted ass at 0:58
funkydankspliff 9 months ago
Clearly uploader knows shit about poker
locozito 9 months ago
i agree with most of these comments this was great POKER beats the russo v clonie hand i just watched hands down!!
xrollerzx 9 months ago
What in the world
bestpokercoach 9 months ago
stupid donks, you better start folding now, everyone knows you play jack shit, literally you'd call half your stack to see a flop with jack 2
Jibberish519 9 months ago
both of them played very well, i didnt see anything to be embarrased about
Khaminor 9 months ago
what an idiot uploader
wirmackt 9 months ago 31
both did fine were is the embarrassment???
dasslr1 9 months ago
two players trying to Outbluff each other - great plays
Zynyster 9 months ago
This was a great play. Stupid title.
BurntPineapple 9 months ago
The title is completely misleading wtf. I thought he was going to call with 8-6 after the all-in or something stupid like that..
Fenrisulv987 9 months ago
your a idiot
LAxLakersx24 10 months ago
i agree no one should have been embarrassed
usgamechamp2323 10 months ago 3
I don't see what's so embarissing with it. It was a great play from both...
Jontazz 10 months ago 96
@Jontazz lol
whatageeza 5 months ago
I love how the title of this is poker embarrassment..If you replace these guys with two superstars the title would immediately change to "Brilliant poker bluff vs. bluff"
MlcheaIJackson 10 months ago 4
That looked more like an odds play than a pure bluff.
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Schmauges 10 months ago
Micheal DeMichele is good in HORSE, but his NL game is so so.
InfoNympho44 10 months ago
wow...
bwong811 10 months ago
glad i missed that joke
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doneyfonsen444456 11 months ago
that poor fatty makes me cry ;(
jokeistman 11 months ago
That wasnt such a bad play at all...
blingblinguser 1 year ago 49
the guy with kq is the idiot
rossm21uk 1 year ago
@rossm21uk demichelle aka "the idiot with KQ" made the 2rd in the 50k wsop horse 3 years ago to win 1,2M.. how often did u survive players like doyle brunson, phil ivey and daniel negreanu in a 50k tournament?
iBetYouWill85 1 year ago
both are idiots
eleven38 1 year ago
not to mention crain would raise a lot pre flop with 99 if he had it or any over pair.
AndrewsShort 1 year ago
@toreman81 why do you think they represent AA? 99 would check that flop a lot to let the other player catch up. even 55 could play it that way. its very unlikley someone has a deuce. the all in was driven because a) dry board. and B) the chip leader could easily be making a move here a lot because of that board.
AndrewsShort 1 year ago
awful line taken by both players, what are either of them representing? Would deMichelle even move all in that quickly on the turn with AA after the other guy 4bet him?
toreman81 1 year ago
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RRRAAAIIIDDDEEERRRSS 1 year ago
@RRRAAAIIIDDDEEERRRSS 5 6 BLANK 8 9 ... idiot...
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richmosa4 1 year ago
squadush
NiMbeats 1 year ago
youlll see it on the tv in a little while,LOL
superslimsim 1 year ago
that is really well played by both players, especially demichelle. I'm impressed
JBades6310 1 year ago
they both made good plays at each other, Crain just ran out of possible moves... obv he can't call the all-in. or can he? hahah he should have just called it off that would have been great to watch.
rickybobby5150 1 year ago
ok then explain what he's repping there? He's in position. What possible hand calls button checks flop behind and then bets and reraises the turn there. I'd say somewhere in the range of none, but I'm bad so enlighten me. There's 80k in the pot and there's something like 60k left in demichelle's stack.
SurvivingTheHorizon 1 year ago
@SurvivingTheHorizon You want me to explain what's happening in this video? That's exactly why you're a bad player. You need someone to explain why what you said was retarded...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese logic then dictates that you're calling demichelle an idiot for shoving- because the thought process I went through is exactly what he went through. If so, fine, results don't dictate correct plays. Nevertheless he was, right.
SurvivingTheHorizon 1 year ago
@SurvivingTheHorizon You don't get it. You really don't get it. This isn't about the poker hand that played out in the video. This is about one of the most important and least understood attributes of poker on youtube videos.
When it's not your money, when you're not at the table, when you don't know the hands that have been played before this, YOU DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. You whackados that watch ONE hand in a whole series and think you can play that hand better are seriously lost...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
I think what you say has a ton of relevance for many hands seen on youtube, here however I disagree. Logic dictates the way the hand is played that Crain is bluffing almost every time here - it's very hard to rep anything, how often does a player not just Crain, but any player with say, a set here? probably never. This is not a player specific read, nor does it require a player specific read in my opinion - the fact remains that Crain can represent nothing, regardless of his playing style.
SurvivingTheHorizon 1 year ago
@SurvivingTheHorizon And if Crain has a read on DeMichelle that he has nothing? Look, I know I probably come off like an asshole, but it's because every single God forsaken poker vid on youtube has about 1400 comments saying "Oh what a retarded move, it's obvious he's bluffing/has a monster/is on a draw/is trying to buy the pot" etc etc etc etc etc. It's not intelligent, it's annoying and sometimes I just have to start swinging.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
I think you're right, Crain picked up on something that is either physical tell, beyond my comprehension, or just an insane move! But there's two aspects to a good bluff - one knowing what your opponent has (getting them off of what they are representing/getting them off a bluff) but two, telling a consistent story about what it is you are representing. Against a lesser player, Crain's move will work, but against a player who can read well - Crain's play makes no sense. thats how i see it
SurvivingTheHorizon 1 year ago
Well played by both.
JasonRygus 1 year ago
It was a bad time to bluff with that board. It had to have missed him.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 "It had to have missed him" Hey, guess what. It missed both of them. Why don't you not comment on poker vids...like ever...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese Considering that you are the proverbial donkey that does not even consider postion, pot odds, stack sizes, or table image when making decisions at the poker table, you're not even on my level to be making comments. You just stick to putting all your chips in preflop buddy, it's the only way you can beat better players.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 lol, I hit a nerve huh? I told you not to comment on poker vids...ever again.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese No nerves here bud. Speak for yourself son.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 Whatever you say. You're the one who tried to regurge what you read in your how to poker book about position, pot odds, and stack sizes. Was that the introduction or the beginning of chapter one.
You don't know what hands played before this, you don't know how each player reacted to other hands, you don't know who might be setting what up. You came to youtube and attempted to make a brilliant comment about a hand and then got your feelings hurt when I smacked you.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese The only one who takes themselves seriously around here is you. A simple peruse through your posts to other people suggests that you are an arrogant joker. There's plenty of your ilk on the internet. I don't take you seriously - as a poker player, and as a person.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 My ilk, if there is one, is made up of people who are annoyed at seeing some retarded comment on every single poker vid on youtube about how horrible the play was. If you weren't so busy attempting to figure out a way to insult me maybe you could find the objectivity inside yourself to see that. I also wonder why you think I would give a crap what you think about me or anything else for that matter...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese So you get annoyed at people criticising people's play on youtube, yet you criticise their criticism? Good philosophy bro, you're going to the top.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 It is a good philosophy. You see while you are no where near the level of the people you're commenting about with your "DUR DATS A BAD MOOV", I most certainly consider myself your equal at the very least intellectually.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese You're funnier than you think, but unfortunately for you, you're nowhere near as smart as you think. LET'S ANALYSE THIS HAND. I'll be keen to know what you think Craine was trying to represent, and what kind of range he put DeMichelle on. If you are able, I would be keen to know the history that led up to this hand, what table image each player had until this point (if you deem it relevant), and why Craine thought he could steal the pot here.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 I have no clue what the table image was each player had, and I have no idea what the history is leading up to this hand...
...wait for it...
and neither do you. And that's my point knucklehead. Are you starting to understand it yet? It is impossible to analyze this hand with just this video...IMPOSSIBLE.
IMPOSSIBLE, the opposite of possible, synonymous with 'not doable' or 'not possible'. Learn more than the basics and you'll get it. :D
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 "what you think Craine was trying to represent, and what kind of range he put DeMichelle on."
I realized I had already answered this once in this thread and so I'll repeat myself to you.
Let's imagine Tehui1974 that Craine has a tell on DeMichelle and has a good feeling he has nothing...which is correct. He tries to steal a pot, DeMichelle pushes back, Craine trusts his read (which is still correct) and pushes again. And DeMichelle goes all in leaving him no choice but to fold.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 But you don't think about that. You watch a single vid and think you have the whole story and post "HORRIBLE BLUFFZ!" and you do that because you are not a very good poker player. You may do well with your buddies at the dinner table, but you will never be able to play at even an advanced level.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese You're an arrogant idiot, who has an over inflated view of their own poker ability. I like beating guys like you, because you lack metacognitive knowledge, and grossly underestimate your opponents.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 This is glorious lol. You are commenting how I underestimate my opponents yet you're the one trying to label my metacognition as lacking. What evidence you have to know anything about my own poker skills and metacognition is non-existent while you make your bold claim that I am an arrogant idiot lol...
Has someone said that too you before and you're just regurgitating it? I do realize it's hard to do anything but ad hominem in your position, but this is embarrassing.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese It's very obvious to see that while you can dish it out, you can't take it. For example, you make grandiose statements such as "I most certainly consider myself your equal at the very least intellectually" - yet you can't handle it when people question your own poker ability. I come across people like you regularly - people with fragile egos with brittle self esteem. Normally I let them do their own thing, but since you started this little debate, I'm calling you out son.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 Funny, I come across someone like you on pretty much every poker vid on youtube. You're calling me out? What are you calling me out on? Are you calling me out because I was wrong about my analysis of the hand? Because you haven't said shit about that and that's what we were talking about. Not fragile egos or poker ability. Does me being right mean that I have a fragile ego for commenting...SON lol...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese Okay, let's get back to the hand little man. It was a bad bluff attempt by Craine. You know why? Because it failed. I don't need to know what the history was. I don't care whether he was playing super tight up until this point, whether he had three bet every time with the nuts previously, whether he had been slow playing big pocket pairs preflop, or whether he just had a good read on DeMichelle's weakness. Even though he had position and the big stack, he still FAILED.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 Let's analyze what you just said now lol...
You admit you don't know what the hand history was.
You admit you don't know if he was playing super tight or loose as hell.
You admit you don't know if he has a read on DeMichelle.
Yet you base your claim it was a bad bluff on the fact that it didn't work now? So any bluff that doesn't work is a horrible bluff? You don't think the skill of the other player should be factored in? How long have you been playing poker?
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese I'll repeat this to you slowly, so you understand. Craine's bluff was bad because it failed. DeMichelle's bluff was good because it suceeded. I appreciate that to consistently win poker tornuments you need to bluff now and again. It's why players like Ivey, Dwan and Cunningham are so good, because they are so great at it. If given the opportunity to play you in a game, I'd gladly you kick your sorry ass off the table, and I wouldn't need to catch cards to do so.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 It was a great bluff. DeMichelle countered it with an even better bluff. That bluff would have run you out of the hand. That bluff would have run 99% of people out of the hand. It was a great bluff. Your dumb ass is too stupid to admit that even after I analyzed the hand for you, explained how you don't know the history, or whether or not either has a tell on the other.
The myriad of facts you DON'T know about the hand should make you realize you should not type dumb comments.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 You are reduced to "It was a bad bluff because it didn't work" lol...that's like little kid talk. Are you a wittle baby? Baby needs his diapew changed?
Be a man and admit you got caught acting big and tough on youtube about something you really aren't very good at.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese Bro, you're embarrssing yourself. Your immature goading says more about you than it does about me. And your flawed analysis of this hand just proves how inferior you are to the average joe poker player. I strongly recommend that you go see a counsellor about your inadequacy issues.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 My flawed analysis? Please, thrill us all with your opinion again. Tell me where that analysis was flawed, as my analysis basically consisted of admitting we have to know more about the previous hands and what tells the players think they have.
You even admitted as such, then went on to say you think the bluff was horrible because it failed. So whether or not the bluff was performed well depends on the skill of professional DeMichelle to spot it? That's some damn good logic bro...lol
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese You're an idiot and an imbecile who talks in circles. I refuse to dignify your incoherent ramblings with a response.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 Good, leave and concede. You have no response to dignify this conversation with. Pretend you're 'above' it though if it makes you feel better.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese Just stick to the low limit tables, and keep going all in preflop. It's obviously your best chance of ever winning chips at a poker table.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 I thought you were leaving...
Do you think of youtube debates as you do poker bluffs? If I stop responding it means you won and your argument was good no matter how retarded you sound, etc? Just like how you think his bluff was obviously horrible because it didn't work?
I wonder how many areas of your life you use that logic for. You cook food and because someone eats it you assume it was good food.
For your sake, leave.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Keep walking chump.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 lol, are you now reduced to crappy sayings? Well I'm rubber, you're glue...
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese Your parents should have used a rubber. Get it right.
Tehui1974 1 year ago
@Tehui1974 Ad hominem, ad ad ad homi, hominem ad hominem. My name is Tehui1974 and I haven't learned anything about poker in 36 years.
fatsomamacheese 1 year ago
@fatsomamacheese I'm still a better poker player than you.
Tehui1974 1 year ago