Gay Pride Parade: Christians Ganged up on (Tucson, AZ 2009 )

[Ethankelsey]

@ministercreek what's a sodomite?

[ministercreek]

Wicked sodomites. Rest assured ye sodomites ye all will spend eternity in the lake of fire with your father the devil

[Angelomen77]

God did not give you the right to judge someone because when you judge theme he will JUDGE YOU you have no right to judge someone for the way they live their life. YOU ARE NOT GOD LET GOD BE THE JUDGE!!!!!!

[ministercreek]

@Angelomen77 God ALREADY revealed what he thinks of sodomy. He hates ALL THE WORKERS OF INIQUITY.

[ArcaneFaerie]

He said keep the peace bitch.. you kept yapping though.

[lijoti513]

Freedom of speech is one thing but you, Mr, are disturbing the peace.

[comfortcare36]

Great for this police officer we need more police officers like this one defending our freedom of speech

[spook79]

Maybe christians should go around cutting animals balls off too when they can't control themselves... Poor creatures don't even know any better! And they are gonna go to animal hell for self pleasuring! They need help from God's servants! Such as a dog when it's having sexual relations with big winnie the pooh toys. We really need to cleanse this filth from among us! Stupid impure thoughts! I really wish I could just cut the horny part of my brain right out!! (please detect sarcasm)

[spook79]

4:47 To the guy who said to the cop in the video: "Are you guys able to stay close by because these people are getting in my face." Do you even realize that you are getting in their face first? They are just retaliating against your abusive cruel verbal attacks against their celebration and their humanity.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 u tellin us to stop judgin gays, but u judgin us for judgin gay actions......Blessings

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 Someone has to stand up against all the gay bashing going on here. I'm not just gonna stand around while all these christians try to scare people into a self loathing insanity. If you don't like people judging you, then stop judging other people in the first place, enough said. These christians started it, you continued it, so stop trying to make me look like the one who is getting in your face about it.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 how hypocritical is it that u tell us to stop judging gay actions when ur judging us....Jesus said to judge righteously....doin homosexual stuff is wrong...

Matthew 12:30

He that is not with me is against me

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 How am I being hypocritical by telling you your religeon promotes homophobia? That argument doesn't make any sense. Christianity preaches judge not and you shall not be judged, I know this. (This is a doctrine of surrender to thugs by the way) But if I don't confess to be a christian I'm not a hypocrite! No matter how badly you want your religeon to look like the innocent victim of being bullied by gay people, people with unbiased perception know better.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 its not jus gay....its drunkards, liars, fornicators, porn watchers and etc......

John 15:19

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 Well I guess I'm worthy of burning in agony happily ever after in God's kingdom, because I like having a few drinks and looking at sexy people. Women in my case. Thank you Jesus! I better go ahead and cut my balls off like some other christians already have. And no I'm not joking, some people actually have done that to themselves because of what they believe in the bible to be true.

[spook79]

Many christians don't realize how selfish they are being by condemning gays. They are all happy and content to go to heaven, and aren't really concerned about who they hurt along the way as long as they got their ticket to eternal bliss. How ignorant.

[spook79]

I don't think I even need to say anything more. Anyone reading our discussion can see that you haven't given any kind of reason why people should be against gay/lesbian lifestyles except that the bible says so. And if thats the only thing you are basing this discussion on then it just shows how morally bankrupt the bible is, and how brainwashed of mutual respect its believers are because they can't think outside of "what the bible says".

[spook79]

Hey I don't think we are gonna agree on this so lets just leave it for now and think about whats been said. I have other things I wanna do. ttyl

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 ur god is obviously not "The Holy One From Israel"........ttyl.

P.s. they called Jesus evil aka the image of God, aka God becuz he told them the truth...becuz the world did not know God

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 If you believe in a God who promotes homophobia then your God isn't holy. Doesn't the bible tell you to love others as you would yourself? And if you happened to be a homosexual through no fault of your own would you condemn yourself? No of course you wouldn't.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 i believe in a God who hates sin.

Proverbs 27:5

Open rebuke [is] better than secret love.

like i said, ur god is not "The God of Israel" u dont kno Him!!!! REPENT!!! u dont kno the God of the universe........why are u claiming to be a christian....why are u praising God with just ur lips...u argue about God is not Holy becuz he hates homosecual acts....why are u a christian? have u givin ur whole life to God???

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 Whoever said I was praising the God of the bible, aren't I criticizing it? Whenever I look at people like you commenting on youtube I wonder if I should really be critical of the bible or more critical of the people interpreting it.

[spook79]

Faith in a holy God who says homophobic behaviour is holy is like a mental disorder in my opinion. I associate homophobia with evil. And I refuse to fear an evil God, therefore my conscience is unseared. I am proud of my stance against homophobia. And part of me believes God is too.

[spook79]

The bible says God is against homosexuals. And the bible is true because the bible says that the bible is true. I'm sure the quran also says that the quran is true and the bible is not true. And now I'm here saying common sense and reason should be true. So its a choice. Believe what you want.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 heres this.

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[spook79]

I understand where your coming from, but I still disagree with you because truth should never have to conflict with reason and common sense. Jesus never really said anything about being homosexual specifically himself did he? Its found in old testament books like Leviticus. Read Deuteronomy 13 all the way through and tell me its "true" that we should believe killing people of other faiths is also an acceptable practice. I thought the bible says murdering is wrong? Which verse to side with... hmm

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 ....Deuteronomy is saying if a prophet tells u to serve a different god rather than the TRUE GOD, then dont follow him...the old testament testified about Jesus. even he said it himself.

John 5:39

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

everything in the old testament was true.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 Jesus is God, and in the old testament God said doing that is wrong. and God came as a man. that is why they killed Jesus. they couldnt handle the truth..they hated God. they loved darkness more than light.

[spook79]

And if God didn't create gay people why should he have any authority over them? Go to your stupid stinking homophobic heaven I don't want any part of it unless gay people are allowed in too. I'm not afraid of you or your bible, because if God is not holy he is dead like everyone else who dies because they are imperfect. (If thats really why people die.) If I had the opportunity you did there I would have a big poster out saying "I'm not interested in a heaven without gays! Wheres the love?"

[spook79]

I think its terrible that the bible condemns people for being born a certain way. Homosexuality is not always a choice. I'm not interested in a heaven without gay people!!! They all deserve better treatment than they are getting! Christians should be defending the human rights of gays not bullying them into submission! How can God be holy if he says people born gay are evil? If God made them that would make God himself evil. If you fear a God who is not holy you have a mental disorder. PERIOD.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 True Worshippers dont defend human rights. they defend God till the day they die. If u think being gay is right and support it ur going to be judged...even hitler thought killing jews was right. did he go to heaven? let us use Gods standard.

John 3:20

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 True worshippers are evil then. And I for one am not interested in being evil to get my way into heaven because that doesn't make any sense. What your saying is about as prophetic as hitting someone in the face and prophesying that they won't like it. Doesn't the bible have anything to say about calling good evil and evil good? And what does hitler have to do with being gay. There is no comparison to being gay and being hitler period.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 im using an example. u believe being gay is right. which is unacceptable to God. and hitler believed killing jews was right which is unacceptable to God. becuz gays believe being gay is ok and to sleep with men doesnt make it ok. jus like with hitler. hitler believed killin jews was ok but was it ok? nope. theres always an absolute truth.

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 How can you even call faith an absolute truth? Its absolutely unprovable in any way. People only believe in God because they want to have hope for the future. Faith doesn't prove or disprove anything except the heart of the person believing in whatever faith it is. If there is a God, I'm sure thats why he is asking for faith. You compare being gay to being hitler, or being a thief and that is just plain wrong. Your "using an example" statement shows lack of perception.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 how is it plain wrong? is that ur opinion or am i absolutely wrong?

so tell me this..... if u die while having sex with men do u go to heaven? if u have sex with 10 men at the same time and die where do u go? will God allow u in heaven? Gods holy.

"people only believe in God because they want to have hope for a future."

is that ur opinion or is it absolutely true?

[spook79]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 I think the churches stance against homosexuality is wrong because it doesn't make any sense. It fosters hatred, ignorance, fear, insecurity, suicide, and promotes people feeling bad about themselves when they haven't done anything wrong. Its calling good evil and evil good in a way. Why are you able to accept the bibles word for it and not a human beings word for it? Why do you want to? It really is about what we as people want isn't it?

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 its not the church that stands out against homosexuality, its God. also liars, thieves, murderers, men who sleep with woman unmarried/woman also, and more. we did all wrong, we are all guilty of sin and deserve hell. not jus people who commit gay acts on each other. everyone is guilty. the point is to turn away from it and receive Jesus. why do i want to accept it? becuz my creator, maker, first love, God who died for me says so. a man cant save u from going to hell, only Jesus can.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@spook79 whats the truth?? read the bible about Jesus who claimed to be the truth, God who came as a man and dwelt on earth to tell us the truth and die for us. Jesus claimed to be the way the truth and the life.

people can have their opinion but it doesnt make it true.

[JREAMdesign]

AWesome job you guys!!!!!!

[Celiene909]

They are also not judging Bi sexauls,Lesbians,Gays. Etc. They are jut giving the true word of god.

[Celiene909]

What they are sayinq is truee...in the end all of them there are gunna suffer in the end wishinq they listened to those guys. All of those people believe the lies of Satan. the devil is lying to u all. Repent.!!!!!!!

[xXSexyObsessionXx]

I know he has good intentions for his christian religion, but he is wrong to judge gays, lezbians, bisexuals and others, i for one am bisexual, and we do not have to go by gods word, and it is wrong to speak the word of god at a gay pride parade. i am not hating on Christianity, i am just saying gays, bisexuals, lezbians, and others can be misunderstood, and disliked by the public.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@xXSexyObsessionXx ur not hating on christianity, u actually hate God if u dnt follow him

[xXSexyObsessionXx]

@SPIRITandTRUTH777 i dont hate god. Gays, bisexuals and lesbians are born the way they are. So if God made us, he should be able to accept us.Btw, i am a christian. so i do worship God.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@xXSexyObsessionXx Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

we are all sinners bro, God made us perfect in his image, but since we disobeyed we die. i was born into sin, i was sinning naturally. God wants u to turn away from sin. do u understand bro? lying is just as bad as doing gay actions. u should stop and let God fill ur heart.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@xXSexyObsessionXx Matthew 15:8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. preachingjesus777 was gay before and gave his life to the Lord cuz the Lord can only save people. preachingjesus777 is his youtube account.

[loveeyou2010]

you are no one to judge gays thatt was wrong if you didnt likee what was qoinqq on youu should of just left the place they wurent ganna listen anywayas

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@loveeyou2010 John 7:24 Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment.

being gay is wrong.......and they hate God becuz they dont want to obey him...thats like stealing money from an old lady and God saying "keep stealing its ok i love you"....it dont make sense. plz let us serve God with all our heart, soul, mind, and body.

[Brennanthefurry]

I dont support you guys protesting, but I dont think you shouldve been ganged up on.

[helookalikaman79]

@Brennanthefurry Dude think of all the gays and lesbins and transgenders that have been beaten to death, called names and spit upon. You obviously didnt think about it before you commented. Funny the tables have been reverssed, and all anyone can say is "poor christians". Remember the church is a good loving place, the only thing wrong with any church is the people inside it!

Every church wants to make laws but then remember seperation of church and state the second taxes are due.

[Brennanthefurry]

@helookalikaman79 Your point?

[messaggievangelici]

Jesus has also taken on Your Body your Sodomy and you has forgiven you and Freed. Enough only to recognize themselves sinners as all the sinners and to accept the Salvation and Free Liberation from God in Jesus Christ dead and resuscitated to also give to you the Eternal Life. Shalom.

[messaggievangelici]

Gesù ha preso sul Suo Corpo anche la vostra sodomia e vi ha perdonati e Liberati. Basta solo riconoscersi peccatori come tutti i peccatori ed accettare la Salvezza e Liberazione gratuita da parte di Dio in Gesù Cristo morto e resuscitato per donare anche a voi la Vita Eterna.Shalom.

[nicomateo23]

True believers dont torment others!

[jfsoller]

That lesbian with the pink hat needed to be decked.

[natvboy]

@jfsoller That isn't very christian of you.

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@jfsoller God will do even worse than deck her homie....thats if she dont repent of her sins.

[Nokaflai]

"Let's be good christians and bother people who don't give a shit"

[MrKevinlives]

Good preaching man. You spoke Gods word well.

[MrHurricaneIKE]

You street preachers needed a can of lysol. 2 Peter 2:12 is proved in this video. Also Romans 1:28-31 is proved in this video.

[StuddMuffinsDotCom]

I agree wholly with everything that they said, I'm a proud bisexual and believe in equality, but violence is not the answer. Although if I had been there I may have acted rashly myself.

[YoungBeliever777]

Jesus is good.

[queeravenger]

Matthew 6:5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full."

See, I can quote the bible too, you hypocrite.

[scottjamesc]

I hope you guys thanked the cop and told his supervisor how professional he was.

Great job keeping your bearing. Awesome work.

[Repenttrust]

Thx and God bless

[nightname6]

@Repenttrust Ur basically proving ur god isnt holy..he dosent love everyone... according to you he hates gay people but im an atheist but if god were real i would know he would love his creation no matter what, if he didnt then...Hail satan.. because satan wouldnt care... God created man like that dont blame it on them... dont just think when they were little they thought one day " im gnna be gay :D " because its not like that... look up the gay gene... its not complete proof but its good enough

[ChavoMysterio]

@Repenttrust Do you know who Grant Storms is? How about George Rekers?

[oldno74]

That was awesome!! The gays that were mocking have not idea, for they know not what they do. It's a shame to turn away from what Jesus is offering, LIFE!

Great job guys!!

[skagseth]

That is not called preaching. Still, violence is wrong.

[FeLiX13sLaVe]

are you really surprised? you went there knowing they wouldn't like your message, you got what you deserved.

[IamLisaYo]

Fuck those preachers. Fucking assholes.

[lambchopxoxo]

He could have called the police on them for what they did. They have no right to touch him, but he has the right to be there on a public street. If being gay isnt wrong then why are they worried about it

[CalatilySisters]

what about children who are afraid of revealing that they're gay, see on one hand gay people showing that it is a normal everyday variety and in their nature, and then on the other someone saying they're evil, bound for hell and must repent everyday for the rest of their lives, is that the christian being defensive? the homophobe's career is built on fear

[lambchopxoxo]

Homophobe? I think you're missing the point. It has nothing to do with being afraid of people because they are gay. You are also confused as to it being their "nature". Even the APA has recanted the "Gay Gene" theory simply because there is no support for it. Focus on the Family has an excellent video on Yahoo regarding homosexuality and children. I highly recommend you search it out and watch it. I think you would agree that it doesn't promote phobia or hate in the least. All the best to you.

[CalatilySisters]

All the best to you. I'd wish you'd say that to gay kids

[queeravenger]

@lambchopxoxo

Focus on the family also likes to have anti-sexuality campaigns based solely on misinformation, and abject paranoia.Why would you believe an organization that lies about abortion laws, and tells you not to teach your daughters about sex because it "strips them of their modesty". They control you by teaching you things you don't want to research on your own, and can make up anything they want... and you'll buy it.

And the Homosexuality and Children film... also lies.

DO RESEARCH!

[lambchopxoxo]

@queeravenger I find it hard to believe that you know more than the experienced PhD that they have in that video.

The APA has also recanted the "gay gene" theory, in addition to the psychologist that originally stated that there was one. He recanted long ago.

I believe them over you even if they were the only source of that information, which they arent.

[lilreeya1]

if any1, the gays look ridiculous!they coulda kept walking if they didnt wanna hear wat the men had to say! I dont c y they had 2 do all that kickin&spittin it only made them look worse.. & they want ppl to tolerate them but they r acting like crazy ppl! I am a full believer in the Word of God and i would never try & force it down any1's throat but these men dont seem 2 b doing that they r standing on the corner quoting scriptures,it seems that the ppl knew they were wrong bcuz they got mad

[armenta851]

@lilreeya1 How would you like it if someone came into your church and started shouting at the top of their lungs about their beliefs which you do not agree with? It is disrespectful of these people to go to a Gay Pride event and talk down to them, they had it coming, it seems to me that these people feel the need to say "poor me, I got picked on by some sinners" no wonder they did, they deserved every bit of it.

[lambchopxoxo]

they do it all the time on public streets! they are allowed to! who really cares. i roll my eyes at them go into my church and enjoy the service. ;)

[natvboy]

Poor christians, if they didn't want the confrontations they shouldn't have been there. Preach your hate somewhere else. Or were your churches being stormed.

[foxyoldlady]

the guy sounds gay himself

[usmcpride3038]

what type of reaction were you expecting preaching to a gay crowd that they are sinners and will go to hell? i do not agree with you, but i also feel like it was the same people harassing you over and over and not an accurate depiction of the gay population. i was there, i walked right by you. everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i just don't happen to believe yours.

and as you were going on about sodomites, i couldn't help but wonder, is it a sin for girls to be gay? or just men?

[SPIRITandTRUTH777]

@usmcpride3038 what do u think God expected when he was gna come in the form of a man aka "Gods Son" when he told everyone the truth. they hated God and reacted bad to him. he knew they would kill him, but he had to die to make himself known to the world, so they would get to know God and follow his Son who has authority in heaven and earth forever amen.

John 3:20

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

[weavtm]

If I remember correctly Hecklers are supposted to be 100 yards away from any event. Were was Tucson Police to enforce that?

[urbanevangelism]

Its a public event...so i dont think you're right on this

[UncleMattNo1]

The only "names" I hear anybody calling anybody is "cock-sucker" and "asshole" and the homosexuals are being abusive and assaulting the Christians. You want to march peacefully yet can't be peaceful. Your house is burning and you respond by trying to turn the thermostat down.

[Draculix]

They didn't gang up on you because you're Christians, they ganged up on you because you're calling them names and spitting on what they simply cannot (and possibly should not?) try to change.

This isn't anti-christian, this is anti-moron. Any Christians out there wanna back me up on this?

[645Rachel]

hail odin hes the way lol

[csbiltz08]

lol, sorry just watched the rest of the video lol, seriously close the prisons, is he stupid, does he want people like charlse manson and other people like that on the streets... really that makes no sense.

[csbiltz08]

lol, thats funny that he says were theives and drunkards.. if im not mistaken. hetereosexuals are are THEIVES, DRUNKARDS, RAPIST, CHILDMOLESTERS, KIDNAPPERS, ANIMAL ABUSERS, WIFE/HUSBAND ABUSERS, DRUG ADICTS, PLUS MORE. no im not saying that homosexuals are no exempt from these actions, but you can say were are the only group that have issues and commit sins. Love your neibor, hate there sin not the sinner. The bible does not teach hate, so why are you spreading it.

[divagirl0177]

wow, I commend you on your efforts. That's a very hostile environment. These people will remember this truth spoken to them someday when they stand before God Himself and will have to give an account. God bless you and stay strong. You will receive a great reward for what your doing.:)

[MrRockythesquirrel]

so you bible-thumpers INVADED a gay pride march, and what did you expect....rose petals and song. next time.....pray for our souls .....IN YOUR OWN CHURCHES!

[spiderpam]

Gays have stormed our churches, we should the right to spreading the gospel any where. Or is that where your "tolereance" ends.

watch?v=GlqPP2FboUA

[MrRockythesquirrel]

a)when did we storm YOUR CHURCH? b) not at a gay pride event. we have OUR OWN ministers,thank you very much.

[PreciousEarthquakes2]

They should have spit on you. You are the scum of the earth. You poor darling. You sure changed some people that night! HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The speaker sounds pretty damn gay himself...

[gtoutofthawrld]

i dnt think going into a group of homosexuals & telling thm how they r all going 2 hell is going to b effective w/out wraping it all up into 1 message & telling them how Christ can free them 4rm that lifestyle,& how Christ has Love for His people y not tell them how Christ can fill that void that sex,alcohol & drugs can nevr fill,tell them they dnt have 2 serve that sin any more &go 2 hell if they jus accept Christ!tell about the peace & delivearnce they can get Frm none other than Christ