The Odd Couple 2009 - An anti-gay and ex-gay

[pendorran]

I know John Corvino, and he's openly and happily gay.

[PeaceOfTruth]

THE VIDEO TITLE NEED TO BE CHANGED. JOHN CORVINO IS GAY! NOT EX-GAY. HE IS A PHILOSOPHER AND ALSO A VERY OUTSPOKEN GAY RIGHTS ACTIVIST.

[christopherse2]

Corvino isn't ex-gay...just saying.

[suvariboy]

I wouldn't be able to hang with the "ex-gay" dude. Why? He's full of crap.

[Stevie2Sxc]

"ex-gay" doesn't exist, it's just them being in crippling amounts of trauma-induced denial and misery

[josenavarrojr]

Wait, which one is "not" gay?

[AsakuraFoxcat]

Wow one frame per second

[MrC0MPUT3R]

Proud to be gay :D

Coming up on my 1 year anniversary with my partner

[mengyl]

seriously i believe they sleep together

[candiceevans1]

@mengyl THATS BC YOURE IMMORAL AND YOU CANT IMAGINE ANYONE BEING MORAL

[Dalladon]

I find it ridicolous to state John Corvino as ex-gay - He is fullblown gay, he is however unlike most gays, one that took philosophy, moral and ethics as an issue and made constructive arguments rather than wave flags and banners, while dancing naked in the streets. To me John Corvino has shown respect to himself and his fellow gay people, and that is no matter how you twist and turn it. Worthy of respect. That he can accomplish the same result, without celebrating himself.

[Queeritual]

@SuperDjhart

This is all sensationalism, and they're not friends, more like business partners.

[Kilby6969]

Did anyone think the guy with the glasses was the homosexuals before they told us it was the other dude?

[HKTeeVee]

this vid is mislabeled, he's not ex-gay, he IS gay.

[TheStrong32]

I was pleasantly surprised. Coming from CBN, I expected it to be anti-gay in approach. However, most of it was very good, even the commentator's comments at the end. However, there was one thing the commentator said that raised my hackles: he was complaining about people losing their jobs for their political stance (how many of these examples there were he doesn't mention), but failed to mention all of the LGBT people who have lost their jobs, been thrown out of their homes, beaten or killed.

[xadam2dudex]

glenn Stanton needs to spend a couple yrs in prison to change his mind...he'll find out who his daddy is

[sunflyer40]

Our society is energized by negative actions/emotions toward those we disagree with to the point that we always put the other person down in order to simply win an argument or desagreement. It really is a detriment to society as a whole. Demonizing is not helpbul in any way but, rather completely destructive.

[Romans1014Preach]

@sunflyer40 Wrong ! This world is a battleground for your soul. This life is not about soda & cup cakes, as much as I like them. Satan is REAL & Jesus Christ is also REAL. Satan wants to destroy you & take your soul to HELL ! ALL sinners will be punished for eternity.

Jesus is coming SOON ! The vast majority of mankind are headed for HELL.

[sunflyer40]

@Romans1014Preach Our society means (this world system and its god) Is based on hatred because its god is based on hatred - hatred for your soul for your life for your peace and happiness. Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." ALL LIARS means everyone! You are correct!

[Romans1014Preach]

@sunflyer40 ALL Gays are on their way to Hell !!

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;

1 John 3:8 He that commits sin is of the Devil; for the Devil sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

[sunflyer40]

@Romans1014Preach - All human beings are born lost and on thier way to hell! If they die unregenerated they will spend eternity in hell! Born once - die twice! Born twice die once! Thats why I posted Rev. 21:8! - Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and some short of the glory of God." Every human being is a sinner and on thier way to hell. God is holy and one sin keeps you out of heaven! That's why Revelation 21:8 says "and all liars,".

[Romans1014Preach]

This video is really strange. CBN's Gordon Robertson states we are "One Nation under God". Now what does he understand by that ?? It is a very nebulous statement. The other thing he avoids stating is that as a believer in Christ there is NO ROOM for debate. Jesus & the Plan of Salvation is a CLOSED Topic. These debates are pointless & if anything will lead even more away from the Truth. Homosexuality is a SIN ! End of story. We now have Politically Correct Christians everywhere. Lord help us.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach you are putting limits on God my friend

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 Please explain.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach the bible was written by man, men are fallible, weak, and will say things to stay in power ad sway the minds of others. Do you realize that homosexuality has existed before the church? before the bible? before Christ? and then all of a sudden its declared a sin, because a few grisly old men feel threatened by what they understand. Christ never said, homosexuality is a sin, he never did, and the Bible has been translated and retranslated thousands of times, God loves us all.

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 The Bible is not an easy Book to understand. Jesus did not specifically mention the word "homosexual". He also did not mention lots of other things. What he did mention however was, "sin no more". He also mentioned Sodom & Gomorrah many times so he did not TOTALLY ignore it. Also fornication is often used denoting ALL sexually immoral acts outside of marriage. You cannot justify Homosexuality. You are correct, Jesus does love mankind but he is also Holy & Righteous.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach You can be gay and righteous, you can be straight and righteous, reread the passage again my friend, it wasn't about being gay, it was about power. Analysts need to reinterpret that passage. If its so wrong, why didn't he wipe it out completely? God made them this way, I'm gay and Catholic and God has spoken to me in different ways and its only through him that I have found strength and courage to accept who I am, just as you have.

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 You have no idea what RIGHTEOUS means. Deuteronomy 6:25 And it shall be our RIGHTEOUSNESS, IF we observe to do ALL these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath COMMANDED us. God is NOT contradictory. He will condemn ALL sinners to Hell. He MUST, as he is HOLY & JUST. No wicked can be in the presence of YHWH. You must repent. Repent means to CHANGE completely, or turn around. I was also Catholic. It means ZERO ! I was on my way to hell, until I was "born again" years ago.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach First and foremost, friend, you are not God, you do not judge, that is God's privilege alone. Second, hold your tongue before speaking ill of my faith. Third, you wouldn't understand righteousness if it broke your jaw with a Bible. You are being an over pius bible beater and a disgusting example of why the Christian faith is so down trodden, thank you so much for giving us a bad name.

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

I was a Catholic so I do KNOW !! The LORD opened my eyes to the TRUTH. He also told me that I was on my way to Hell. You call yourself a Christian, but according to God's Word you are not.

Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.

You do not know what Judging means. Read Ezekiel 3:17-21. 

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach The Bible is a book of parables! Not a history book! God has spoken to me to my friend, which is why I decided to stay Catholic and accept my faults. I maybe gay and a Christian but I assure you my friend that God is not a narrow minded fool that you prtray him to be.

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 You are deceived. You claim it was from Jesus, but I know it was not. 2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Jesus is HOLY. Revelation 21:8 But to the cowards, unbelievers, detestable persons, murderers, the sexually immoral, and those who practice magic spells, idol worshipers, and all those who lie, their place will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. That is the second death.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach And you are misguided, It was written over a period spanning nearly 2000 years, we have evolved and changed since then. You can try and crush us Bible Beater, but we existed before Christ because God made us that way! It is not a choice and never was a choice, so quit lying to yourself and leave us be, better yet, come out of the closet yourself. Why else would you behave like this, you are afraid of what you dont understand

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 Our world is ONLY a battleground for one's SOUL. You bash the Bible but you are wrong. Satan said to Eve in Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

That is what is being played out until this very day. Each person chooses whether the Bible & YHWH are true or not.

John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

I do not fear as Jesus has set me FREE !

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach Like i said, you fear what you dont understand, you a re blindly quoting Bibke verses and I think you dont have a clue what you are preaching.

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 You are very hard at hearing. You can only be free in Christ. All SIN is rebellion against YHWH !! The verses are not blind, but rather you are blind to the TRUTH.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

John 6:68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach Im talking about you, you are blind! Faith alone will not save anyone, and I am certain that God loves both of us despite our stubbornness and blind judgement. The Bible is flawed like the men who wrote it, wake up, William!

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheHolyman777 I was spiritually blind.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

John 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remains.

John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach I'll pray for you my friend, thats the honest truth.

[TheStrong32]

@Romans1014Preach The Bible isn't blind. You are blind. Like the Sadducees, you blindly search the scriptures and in them you *think* you have eternal life (John 5:39), but you do not have His word abiding in you. For you, the Bible is a weapon with which you batter other people. And your words hurt God's children. Becasue of people like you LGBTchildren are 4 times more likely to attempt suicide (8 times more likely if their families disapprove). Better for you that a millstone be tied ...

[TheStrong32]

@Romans1014Preach You seem to be of the opinion that if you simply quote enough Bible verses it will prove you are correct. But proof-texting proves nothing. The Devil is the best quoter of Scripture there is; he even dared to quote Scripture to the Lord. The Bible can be used to justify anything. Hitler had his theologians. Every chapter of the Ku Klux Klan has its Bible-toting chaplain. Slaveowners used the Bible to justify human bondage. It was quoted to deny the vote to women. Etc., etc, etc

[Romans1014Preach]

@TheStrong32 The Bible is a powerful weapon when RIGHTLY used.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, etc.

Without it one has very little. It is God's word whether you like it or not. The Devil turns the Truth into a LIE. He twists scripture. Read Genesis Chap 3. The Bible is very dangerous in certain peoples hands because anybody can twist it & get another meaning out of particular verses. The Devil is a master at deceiving & ALWAYS was.

[TheStrong32]

@Romans1014Preach Amen. I agree completely.

[TheHolyman777]

@Romans1014Preach think they understand, excuse me

[mensupportcenternepa]

these 2 are gay

[scorand]

while i agree with civil debate, sadly this isnt the case when dealing with the christian right.. with the flat out falsification of facts especially when you deal with people like the rabid phelps family..

[murakisredmoon]

If John Corvino "lives with his partner of 7 years" who's the ex-gay ?

[AspiringPotato]

CBN is full of shit.

[LifterwiII]

I don't know who gave this video it's title .. Neither of these men is claiming to be ex gay. Not that there IS any such thing, there is certainly not an EX Gay on that stage,

[shep72685]

So when are they going to make out?

[LifterwiII]

First of all .. there is no such thing as an "ex gay" or "former gay" .. These Fundies will swallow anything. Unreal.

[lordyfordy]

If one's anti-gay and the other is ex-gay then why are those guys totally hooking up?

[OhMyRodney]

At the end of the piece, a commenter mentions the fact that businesses and individuals who contributed to Prop 8, the repeal of gay marriage in CA, are targets for boycotts & protests; allegedly, some have even lost jobs. He says that in a free and open society, this should not happen. Yet I wonder, does he or CBN News support ENDA, the Employment Non-discrimination Act? Is it not wrong for gay people to lose their jobs and homes as well because this discrimination against them is still legal?

[tugboat2030]

I can't wait until they start debating at churches.

[OhMyRodney]

@tugboat2030  Amen.

[jcvideo321]

Amazing, if only people can emulate like these two...

[jeanthomasdelvaux]

One look at Stanton and my gaydar said he is gay!

[edgwaterprog]

Of course this comes from CBN, they have the most to gain from calling a truce on incivility in the public square since they have been a catalyst of so much incivility for the last couple decades. Having Gordon Robertson call for a truce in California (post Prop 8 I assume) is particulary insincere.

[downwithbreeders1]

Look at us becoming more and more like those things made of flimsy plastic and glass, merely because there are two plugs doesn't mean the machine they create is any less effecient. People need to realise what they are doing to this world. Get over it you so called 'Followers of Christ' we get it you're so mad that you can't drop the memory of being slaughtered in the colleseums. I think it's time to drop it. By the way you're following the people who slaughtered your kind.

[factsequalfuel]

I don't know what this guy is smoking, but Corvino is NOT an apologist.

[molimhvalaizvoli]

5:18 i want to have a family like that when the time is right, such a beautiful picture

[PreppyPoser1]

I want to speak for gays, we're all a bunch of perverts that should be hanged and treated like shit.

[keiferd11]

@PreppyPoser1 speak for yourself.....you preppy limp risted pussy

[LifterWill]

@keiferd11 What does risted mean?

[keiferd11]

@LifterWill ....forgot the "w"....wristed.

[LifterWill]

@keiferd11 It's okay .. I was trying to be funny :-) Knew what you meant.

[stevevideos2010]

I dont think i could be friend of someone that thinks have more rights than me but i totally understand someone not agreeing with my life style, the color of my skin, im not attract to japanese and that doesnt make me racist, what  make me racist is if i try to stop people to rave relationship or attraction to asians! If you dont like me or my life, is that right but trying to stop me to have my human rights then you looking for a fight and bringing god to the conversation is just silly!

[blinksy12]

There is no such thing as an "ex-gay" its called DENIAL.

[victor19955]

@blinksy12 YEP, you are so right! :)

[candiceevans1]

@blinksy12 oh really,,,so noone can abstain fr sex? im a hetero and I can stop having sex,,,,matter of fact I CHOOSE TO ABSTAIN UNTIL MARRIAGE OR MAYBE FOREVER,,,its MY choice,,,gay men can choose not to have sex too,,,,dont tell me the urge of a man to have gay sex is so powerful that it cant be stopped,,,BULLSHIT,,,youve been told that gay people cant stop so you believe it,,THEYRE NOT DRUG ADDICTS FOR GodS SAKE.

[blinksy12]

@candiceevans1 I never said that they could not abstain from sex..in fact I didnt even mention sex. The fact is if you are in a LOVING relationship with the same sex regardless of having sex or not you can not just forget that you are attracted to that sex. It is most people who claim homosexuality is all about sex..well take the sex away and you have a relationship. So just stop making a fool of yourself and I am a Lesbian..and don't really give a damn what you think. so have a nice day 8)

[keiferd11]

He has no business being an "apologist" for gay's. He needs to speak for himself...he does not speak for me. And as well you can't be an ex-gay if you were NEVER GAY to begin with. So like Richard Cohen....he's just making money off the gay issue. Nothing more.

[keiferd11]

Hmmm...yeah..lol...they take it on the road together!!!

[CybershulDotCom]

The reason they are such a ideal couple is they are BOTH GAY.

[DaBroskiBro]

Do you people not know that Christians in the early days had no clue what homosexuality was?

[EvenGodsSuffer]

@DaBroskiBro

Hell! When I was a young man in the 50's, we didn't know what homosexuality was either. We heard about "fairies" but that didn't tell us about anything beyond their effeminacy.

It was only in the 60's, when "normal" men learned that gay guys looked and acted the same as their own friends and family did, that panic struck and urinal dividers became the norm in the US.

And the churches really had it good, sowing the fear and reaping the cash. Why would they want to give that all up?

[GeoTrans89]

have they hooked up yet?

[MsDommiekins]

I don't understand, why be friends with someone who doesn't respect you?

[NateNStuff]

The ex-gay is just pissed that he can not get a nice man ... the anti-gay is just scared to think like a gay man would....

[dylanskriloff]

It sounds like they are dating the way they describe it ... geesh

[Clikkoman]

Focus on the Family can go to hell. Dr. Dobson with his book completely fucked up my childhood.

[ignati123]

@Clikkoman How did he do that?

[TomsFriendKake]

I love how that straight guys wants the gay guy to join him in his suburban hell, LOL!

[suddenlyitsobvious]

The gay marriage and adoption theme is certainly a crucial issue in our war torn world where a billion people is starving.

[tdog51501]

"one nation, under god" has NOT always been our slogan....as the gentleman says at the end of this video. it is just a phrase in the Pledge of Allegiance, which was altered in 1954 to include the words "under god" that were not a part of the original composition written in 1892 (more than 100 years after The United States had already become an independent and sovereign nation.

otherwise this is a terrific, fair and balanced news story.

[wecaan]

This is bullshit. I am not going to be friends with someone who wants to deny me rights. It's okay if he thinks it's wrong for him, but once he advocates to take away my rights, I am not going to be civil. Next, I will be ask to be civil to a racist because you know, no one said you shouldn't be friends with a white supremacist.

[Blairtim69]

The host is concerned about folks losing their jobs for donating to prop 8, but does he share the same concern for the gays across the country losing jobs for being gay?

[separatesix]

At least the gay one isn't over-populating the planet like the anti-gay one.

[computopp]

Aside from the content of the reportage, what I notice is the source.This truly fair and balanced news story- which shows two reasonable and rational people discussing a controversial issue- comes from the CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network)

Would the mainstream medie (NBC, CNN, etc) ever present this topic without obvious sympathies leaning toward Corvino? I think not. Also CBN did not insult me by pushing what is mostly likely their bias.

More importantly, what music do they like?

[SeattleRexx]

Ex-gay implies you can also be "ex-straight ", you still want to be with women but you "force" yourself to be with men... Doesn't make much sense,now, does it?

[OhMyRodney]

@SeattleRexx Exactly!

[candiceevans1]

@SeattleRexx EX-GAY JUST MEANS YOUR NOT ACTING ON THE URGES,,,JUST LIKE A MARRIED MAN DOESNT ACT ON URGES TO SLEEP W HIS SECRETARY IF HES A CHRISTIAN...SAME THING,,,GAY PEOPLE ARE NOT POWERLESS

[Sileni]

@SeattleRexx Yeah it does, its called fucking being a sociopath who gets off on inflicting unwarranted injusries on himself.

[foreerknight99]

This is one of the BEST vids I've seen here about the situation of debate on homosexual "marriage"

[kosmonaut5]

interracial relationship FTW!!!! WOOT!!!!

[badboymod]

homosexuality is immoral

[dontmakemeMAD1990]

@badboymod thumbs up for you

[separatesix]

@badboymod Backward redneck!

[downwithbreeders1]

@badboymod And what merely keeping a woman around to suck you off whenever you want is? I'm sorry but you need a little more than immoral standings in this kind of an argument.

[avilameon]

I think John Corvino is going to get what he wants before the other guy does...

The gay rights movement is this generation's great Civil Rights issue. Just as you would look at your parents with horror if you found out they were segregationists, our children will look at us with horror if they find out that we were against equal rights for EVERYONE.

[lalalongg]

EX-Gay? Change the title to Anti-Gay and Pro-Gay debaters.

[ohm4]

How is John Corvino an ex-gay?? Also, I love him.

[belugafishgod]

Somebody answer this for me. What is the threat in a person who happens to be "anti-gay"? I mean it is well established that being gay isn't a threat to anybody at all. I mean what two people do in the privacy of their bedroom...where is the harm? So where is the harm in being anti-gay? An anti-gay is just a bigot with an opinion right?

[TheThing88]

@belugafishgod

There's nothing wrong with being against homosexuality. The threat comes, as with most views and beliefs, when people try to force it on others. Preaching that homosexuality is wrong, debased and sinful is hurtful and damaging - Homosexuals often have a hard enough time as it is, without somebody fanning the flames.

[andreateddybear]

lmao, 5 kids in the suburbs..

[bluemew88888]

i just noticed something look at the end of the video corvino the gay guy is setting in a masculine pose and the straight guy is setting in a feminin pose. just worth noting

[Paulwhoisvegan]

I'd rather have two moms

[balvarez01]

Who's the "ex-gay" suppose to be? Corvino is an open homosexual.

[2010Scottie]

@balvarez01 I was just going to comment on that when I saw your comment. I've seen them debate and it was interesting although (and I may be biased) I find Corvino to be superb at debate and Stanton rather mediocre.

[TheThing88]

@2010Scottie

Maybe that's more to do with your views, though? I mean, I'm strongly against everything Stanton claims in his arguments, he was never going to change my mind and so I don't enjoy listening to the guy, but I can see how he'd be powerful and convincing to somebody who was more on the fence about the whole thing.

[Jamieishere1]

This video inspired me to try and not get angry when debating with heterosexists :).

[Jamieishere1]

That was good to see. Hopefully it will remind me to be polite to homophobes.

[vegas787]

Fascinating!

[kern0099]

Heteronormative assumptions are what killed debate in this country in the first place. The religious use of scapegoating is more important to straights either directly or indirectly as "doubts" about full LGBT membership in the polity. Straights don't want an accurate survey of society to reflect it's emergence of they must give up something, even if that "something" is a damaged body politic. Breeders are finally afraid of human liberty, go figure. Americans always were childish.

[DoomNoMore]

People who hate gays are no better than racists.. no morals.

[narutolover7777]

@DoomNoMore good point

[johncorvino]

I don't mind being called an apologist--it's an accurate label if "apologist" is taken in its traditional sense--but I would appreciate not being called "ex-gay." It's patently false, and anyone who knows my work would know I've been critical of the ex-gay movement.

[fdzwes]

I don't care what Richard Cohen or Exodus can do to gays.

I don't care about the Homo/Hypno Roper Study of 1967, back when gays were successfully receiving treatment.

I don't care that I will never bare offspring naturally.

I don't care that not one world religion, anywhere, ever was enlightened enough to accept gays.

I don't care that I will always be entering an exit for human excrement for the rest of my life.

I am gay.

[kissfan7]

Addressing each point:

Every major psychological association has condemmed "treatment" for homosexuality. Cohen's methods have even been condemmed by right-wing like NARTH. It's one of the hallmarks of pseudoscience like conversion therapy that proponents can't agree an major issues and make no attempt to adjust those disagreements with peer-review.

Define naturally. Should infertile heterosexual couples be treated in a similar fashion?

[kissfan7]

The world religions are wrong about one thing or another. Take slavery or human sacrifice for instance. Every holy book has its own moral blindspots (to be polite), that's why we shouldn't pass laws based on them.

Is there some rulebook that says all gay people (including lesbians) must have anal sex? And I can tell you the vagina isn't exactly a field of flowers a lot of the time either.

[fdzwes]

I'm right there with you, brother/sister (It doesn't matter)

I was pissed in my last posting. I actually haven't done anal...yet. I'm so tempted though. But I don't want to take sex too casually. Can you refer me to an organization to help young homos like myself remain chase until another virgin homosexual who loves God comes into my life, so we can start fresh and raise our family with solid morals? I see heteros who take virginity seriously and I just say, "Why can't we." You know?

[kissfan7]

I can't think of any off the top of my head. P-FLAG probably has a lot of connections with religious groups, though. You may want to check out their website or give them a ring.

[PrinceOfBabylon]

Glen,

Imagine a law being passed where you were just denied the right to marry your wife. Nothing for you or your family.

Then tell me how civil you wanna be.

Asshole.

[onethousandsteps]

Why do the title and sidebar refer to Corvino as an ex-gay and gay apologist?

[ng1260]

I ought to overdub this video with the courtship of eddie's father theme.

[Clemburke1111]

lol, love that show

[jerrydoubleu]

Glen is a bigot.

[RichGrant08]

No He Is Not Gay Is Not A Race Ok It Is A Choice

[jerrydoubleu]

ok Rich, I get that you have chosen not to induldge in your gay desires, and that's ok by me. Good luck with that.