Dennis Kucinich: Health Care Reform Is ALL About the Left!

[UNIQUE1982]

He is an absolute piece of shit, Obama you lying prick, your 'people' may still be fooled but no one else is.

[1DjRadeoConscyous]

I think I like Mox News lol

[HimmuraTube]

con't... why not have a public option that people can BUY into. A real option that can provide some real competition to the health INS companies. After all, the gov't works for the people. At least we have some say in the matter. Or you can leave it up to the private ins co's to take care of you. And btw, private ins CEO's make literally 100's of millions a year. How do you think they make that much? by providing great care? or by denying care?

[TrickyEmu]

But not everyone wants to be that slow. E.g. California will not wait that long.

[HimmuraTube]

1st, we Don't have a choice of health ins in the current state. Reason: how many people who Can afford health ins, Chooses Not to have it? You're kinda forced by the market to have INS...thus, you don't really have a choice in the matter.

2nd, look at the lobbying power of the Health ins companies.. With all the politicians they've "bought" off to cut off any type of free market competition, one could argue that we ARE under a gov't run health program....con't...

[Frettsy]

I think Kucinich is a good man, but I disagree fervently on this.

[Frettsy]

that is, public option is a horriible idea (co-op would be way better) but I agree that it needs to go back to the drawing board.

[smudoshi]

What is a co-op?

[Larrymcphereson]

Dennis is more "on point" on this specific issue than anyone I've heard! Godspeed!

[BestGreenProducts]

Go Dennis! Talk up HR676 in any way you can! People just might start understand how we're being let down...

[RoyalDemonforChrist]

wahh wah boo hoo shut your mouth. your ideas fail in the market place of ideas!!!

[BestGreenProducts]

FOR PROFIT Health Care is certainly the single biggest GOVERNMENT & MEDIA SPONSORED RIP OFF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Why? It's all about escalating the profit margin locked in with your "employer" (by law) but when you lose your job... Don't negotiate with the GOP on this one!

[thefakeyeti]

@BestGreenProducts there should be SOME profits..

Profits for the doctors, and profits for some of the health insurance agents who need to evaulate each customer..

However,at the most that should MAYBE be a (as in one)nice lake house,and a nicehome..

Not CEOSwith SEVERAL houses, and several sport cars. And can remodel their homes when the impulse hits them..

[madebutante]

Alan Greenspan says Free Market failed.

We don't need more economic systems, but to make moral and simplify what we already have. STOP giving corporations more rights than individuals. STOP giving corporations bailouts without giving them to the people. STOP underfunding the military. (The military is probably the only place where the Free Market works or cronyism more like it...sadly for US)

God have mercy on America..

[MayorTravisAlbert]

"STOP underfunding the military. (The military is probably the only place wher the Free Markert works)" First of all, the military has nothing to do with anything remotely free market. Every hour that I work, the government steals from me to pay for destruction. There is nothing fee market about that. As for the demand to stop underfunding the military. That is perhaps the most absurd claim that I have ever heard. Get the military out of everywhere, and cut the funding to almost nothing!

[MooseOfReason]

Obama can't say the "free market fails" if we haven't had a free market in healthcare.

[marniespeaks]

I want to know who this anonymous adviser is

[TheCelebritySleuth]

To the person who condemned Canadian health care coverage. According to you, their system is bad. But US coverage ranks far worse than Canadas. In fact we rank at the bottom of most other wealthy, capitalistic countries on quality of care and costs. What does that say about us? That says when it comes to providing quality health care to our citizens, we can do better and the phenomenal success other countries have had should be a model for how we can improve ours.

[TheCelebritySleuth]

To the person who posted keep the government out of his health care, does that mean you want to give up Medicare and Tri-care for vets? They are both government run programs. The Republicans way back since Reagan in the 60s have been trying to end these programs along with Social Security. They claim they are socialist. Everyone over 65 who agrees should give up Medicare and try to get private insurance and see how much coverage they end up with.

[jeffmagic32]

call me crazy, but I do not trust this communist to manage my healthcare.

[klingoncelt]

Okay, you're crazy. But you don't have to let him manage it. Let the 47,000,000 decide for themselves as well whether or not to take the private option.

After all, why should anyone trust YOU to manage their healthcare?

[jeffmagic32]

I don't want to manage anybody's health care. Let them decide for themselves from the 1300 options in the private market., which they would have access to if the market was deregulated.

[klingoncelt]

Maybe they wannt the public option. Stay out of their business. Freedom and Liberty for the 47 Million!

[jeffmagic32]

even if I choose to select a plan from one of the 1300 private insurers, I will still have to pay for the government option. Before long, I will be forced into the program.

[klingoncelt]

You're already paying for the 47,000,000 when they use emergency rooms. Paying for preventative care at a doctor's office would be considerably cheaper.

[jeffmagic32]

There is no data to back up that claim.

[klingoncelt]

Yes there is.

[bigsleep32]

ok, then where is it?

[klingoncelt]

How much is the average emergency room bill?

About $300.

How much is a visit to the doctor's office?

About $70.

$300

-$70

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$230 saved per incident.

[whoo689]

I like Kucinich. He's a straight-shooter and does have balls for a Democrat. I agree with him on big issues like the War in Iraq, the drug war, and managed trade policy (idiotic things like NAFTA and the sovereignty-threatening WTO). But he's too far to left on most other things for me, esp. healthcare. Single-payer will DESTROY this country.  Several Canadians go across the border just to get better care. But where would these people go if OUR system became just as fucked up?

[klingoncelt]

Whoo, you're distorting again. We are ranked 27th globally in healthcare quality. The 26 countries ahead of us are all government run. Most have the choice of private insurance.

Look it up.

[whoo689]

Healthcare insurance in this country is vastly distorted from what it should be. Insurance is supposed to pay for CATASTROPHIC costs! Yet patients all across the US expect insurers to pay for EVERYTHING, from physicals to routine treatments to prescription drugs. Why?? Are they REALLY that afraid of paying out of pocket, esp. people making 50-75 grand OR MORE?  They should easily afford most of these costs. Insurance paying excessively insulates consumers from costs.

[whoo689]

The gov't mandates way too much on insurers, and we foot the bill in the end. I mean, if I'm in one state, why should the insurers who operate and offer me plans only be able to offer what THAT particular state mandates? If I wanna buy a cheaper and more basic plan from, say, a libertarian state like NH, why shouldn't I? How is that fair to consumers? There are so many things gov't could do to reintroduce competition and choice, but a public option is not one of em.

[whoo689]

Besides, the public option is only ONE more option. How is adding one more insurer POSSIBLY going to make competition go wild? I don't care if it's the gov't or a rich private insurer. It won't happen like that! Besides, you know the bureaucrats running the public option will do all they can to unfairly undercut private insurers because gov't can do things private can't, like not have to have profit. Gov't doesn't have to advertise. Gov't can set its prices as low as it wants.

[yakuzelizard]

I'll pay the insurance....KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR HEALTH CARE!

[earwaves58]

"I'll pay insurance?" Do you know what the average family of 4 pays per month to a non-profit insurer? $1200. Still wanna pay? These costs have to be controlled, and a public option will provide the competition to do just that. Are you anywhere near 65 years old -- willing to give up your Medicare? How about putting that money into the stock market -- that would be a surer way to "pull the plug" on Gramma.

[sirachman]

Private CANNOT compete with public.. The way the free market works is companies can lower their prices only to a minimum point of profit where they can still pay their employees and stay in business. A public government company however can stay in existance while running itself in debt with a negative net worth (see the post office or social security). These 2 forms cant fairly compete because even a badly run govt program could out compete the best company since it doesnt follow the same rules.

[yakuzelizard]

&1200? I pay $222.00 for me and my wife....the kids are pretty much insured under that plan for free. YES...I STILL WANNA PAY!

[Pvtjamesryan2]

This guy ED is mentally retarded.

[DolphinFilms]

Dennis you might be good on foreign policy, however on domestic policy, not so good but you might be getting better. I like the part about no more insurance company subsidies.

[CosmosPrivateer]

HR676 is what we need using a co-op system instead of the government running it.

The Insurance companies do nothing for health care. The profit off of sick people that is sick.

We are a sick society that feeds off the illnesses of others.

Dennis and Paul 2012

[Patriot4Liberty1776]

I love reading people who get what is really going on and who they are paying so much for care to right now.

Its the insurance companies who prevent Care!!

And what would single payer care do for the private insurance companies? It would add Customers to them Growing their Profits over people!!..... through taxation which is even worse as they are taking another individuals private property.

Government Keeps the insurance companies running with their aid -- Keep speaking the truth

[BabybooR33]

ed is so annonying

[ericnpace]

Whatever they do pass will include a national health card which is included in the bill. No one is complaining about that because the focus is on Health Care Reform. The card will be the big win because they haven't been successful with bills for a Real ID yet. This Card will have access to everything about you including your financial information, driving record, criminal history, property holdings etc....

[DawnOfTheLiberalDead]

Haha.

[klingoncelt]

No it won't you lying twit.

Come back and post when you can say something honest.

[Patriot4Liberty1776]

I am for no Insurance --

Insurance is an added cost that Drives up rates for all people.

Insurance Laws set by GOVERNMENT with the Influence of the Corporations.

We lose out when we have officials who buckle to Wall Street - and we end up with Government Compulsion for Insurance using our own government on us.

I am not for single payer as it will only prop up Insurance companies like Medicare Part D did for Pharmaceutical companies

I want Government to Stop Protecting Wall Street.

[raguv2000]

yeah, you don't need insurance for basic care

[Patriot4Liberty1776]

Wrong --

Why are you conditions to need insurance for anything? Insurance prevents people from getting care.

Plastic Surgery is major surgery -- not covered and it goes down each year.

Laysk Eye is not covered and it continues to go down every year.

Why should you be a slave to the private corporations? It Drives up rates and should not be mandated to have through governments compulsion.

[raguv2000]

you might CHOOSE to get insurance to prevent the costs of a catastrophic injury, the same reason you get insurance for your house

insurance is just a risk management tool meant to decrease and stabilize risk at the expense of an average greater total cost

I didn't say it should be mandated, I hate government intervention

[Patriot4Liberty1776]

If you say "it should be mandated, I hate government intervention" I agree! so why do we allow the Government to Protect the Insurance companies Forcing people to have their coverage?

You and I know Cancer Treatment is not viable without coverage unless if money is not a worry.

Why allow Insurance companies to jack the rates until people have to have it? -- Using governmental laws to Aid the growth of their customer base is Compulsion. People should not be forced to have insurace

[Patriot4Liberty1776]

If you say I hate government intervention" I agree! :D!!

[ThinkingLeft]

where's Obama's pimp hand??

[KARStarla]

This guy Ed makes me want to puke with all his "left right bs" Anyone still buying into the left right is just a game peice for the media to manipulate. I like Ron Paul (republican) but also adore Dennis Kucinich (democrat) both speak of the constitution, and both stress the importance of listening to THE PEOPLE not "lefties or righties" (that is a divide and conquer tactic) they are botht the same within that matrix just different ballcaps. I like how Dennis redirected Ed (who doesnt "get it")

[CosmosPrivateer]

My new friend telling it like it is.

[klingoncelt]

KARStarla, a week ago you claimed to know nothing about politics and was unsure of the voting process.

[KARStarla]

I dont know alot about politics, and I hadnt voted being a disabled vet, a few weeks back someone told me that there is such a thing as an absentee ballot I had no idea till he told me that.

Its on my profile that I like Ron Paul, its ROn Paul who woke me up, its Dennis Kuciniches questioning of the Fed on youtube is why I like him.

What about that is knowing everything about politics?

[klingoncelt]

I didn't say you knew everything. You sure are a quick study, though.

By the way, some districts have volunteers than will drive disabled voters to the polls. Many districts have an optional paper ballot that one can fill out, as opposed to using the ever-so-trustworthy Diebold machines. It depends on where you live. Look into it now, November will be here before you know it.

[KARStarla]

My problem is with my inabilty "to sit" most often, degenrated lower spine, so I dont drive to well, that began over a year ago. I used to read online, never watched TV wasnt too interested in it. Im not a quick study I'm in bed alot & online watching vids learning, typing on my elbows ...yeah thats a sight.

Another guy said to me, "Watch those absentee ballots"...I was like "what now"? Apparently he doesnt trust them, whose to say? I dont really trust the voting set up much any way

[klingoncelt]

It depends on where you live. In Ohio and Florida especially, your absentee ballot could disappear depending on who you vote for and which way that particular county leans. I don't trust the machines myself.

[almamatters2471]

Obama is already a failure...no backbone, but he sure can read from a teleprompter really well.

[Intervene]

Yeah and when he doesn't he's never sure of himself. Urmm, urghh, umm... 'the american people'

[chatsworthsharp420]

i disagree with the left and right

it's nothing but a slave game

there are other alternative solutions:

check out the zeitgeist movement/ the venus project. it is about a system of abundance and high standards of living for everyone. google it, and read about the venusproject

[Churchx77]

I missed you Cspanjukie.

[TheAwakenedOne]

I agree with Dennis.