Freedom Of Expression, Liverpool 11th Oct 08 PT1

[lightningpete]

University Secretary, wow? Hes declaring it like hes the most important person ever? Mate your a clerical administrator, or better known as a paper filer. Get over yourself :)

[lightningpete]

For fucks sake. You can get a permit for anything from them for nothing..........if you need a permit to set up a stall, then thats why....christ. Your all just doing this because you have nothing constructive in your life to do then troll with the public and get people to hate the police and the authorities. Yes theres two sides to every story, but this shit is boring now. Now wheres OK magazine and peter andre and jordan? LOL

[standupEFC]

what was this UAF

[NaziDan1488]

I suggest everyone watch "It's an illusion" by John Harris. We National Socialists have been warning the people about this for years, but nobody has ever listend. Instead, the Marxists continue to work for the Capitalist and Globalist system. England: RESIST! England: AWAKE! Take back your country, before it's too late!

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[NaziDan1488]

Stupid reds! If you wan't to set up a stall you have to ask the council for a permit. This is for health and safety legal purposes. If you had a permit you could've showed it to them and they would've walked off. That said, how do you feel now that you have had a taste of ZOG oppression? Not nice is it? These are the people who protect you from us.lol.

[mvpool]

@NaziDan1488

why need a permit? really?

freedom of expression and speech man.......

[cheyaura]

The point of such a demonstration is that you shouldn't need a permit for a basic human right.

[7Vails]

@cheyaura For Once we can agree!

[cheyaura]

@7Vails :) Indeed I will agree with you this is one area the government has got it wrong. That's why we need a strong Liberal opposition.

[mvpool]

@cheyaura

is there actually any point in voting though....

[cheyaura]

@mvpool probably very little point to be honest but they way I see it at the moment until more people wake up it's all we've got.. and it doesn't take much effort.

[NaziDan1488]

@mvpool I know. It's these stupid health and safety laws though. The table needs a risk assesment an you have to get a note from a solicitor.

[7Vails]

@NaziDan1488 Its the total control freak of a government that we have! Not the standerd excuse called Heath & Safty They hide behind that law! Just the same as they hide behind the Anti Terror law, so they look in your bins!. I think PollenB has got it down to a fine art, Rumbled them good & proper, & its as he says!

[ucokcouk]

@mvpool indeed i'm not a sodding dog I don't need a permit.

[pinkskud1]

@NaziDan1488 OK so we have the right to free speeck.

on what grounds could they deny a permit, bearing in mind we already have the right to perform the actions the permit would permit!!!

the reason they require a permit, is so the council can censer there "free speech"

[RenegadeTimes]

The UK is doomed .The United States of Goldman Sachs is not far behind.

One huge difference in the U.S. ?

We still have our guns !

[scouseproddyboy]

we lost our right to petition several years ago the only people who seemed to know and protest about it was the orange institution

[masonfreeparty]

Where's stephen bamber when you need him!

[PHUKMLtd]

this should be on prime time

[squatalota]

I hope you'll all get to see what the police did to three coach loads of anti war protestors on their way to Fairford back in 2003. It just goes to show that our freedoms are being taken away everyday, everywhere in the UK.

[nethy02]

At last I have found someone that is awake in Liverpool. I thought I was the only one

[MikePhilbin]

so, any person or group who wants to publicly protest now needs A LAWYER on their side, in the street, in public view, to protect their rights against Police State UK?

Disgraceful.

[0ddba11s]

A new law has been introduced that makes it illegal to photograph a police officer. This is so protest marches can be stopped from making the papers or youtube. The fact this is now on youtube makes this an illegal act in the UK.

[chowmein911]

whats the name of that law?

what law did they use to justify the actions demonstrated in this vdeo?

[0ddba11s]

I will send you a link for more info. The national press have been complaining and demonstrating about this but then who would know it is kept out of the papers and off TV just like the reason for oil wars is the Caspian Sea.

Vote BNP bring our soldiers home stop the grip of the fat cats that run Britain, bring in cheap labour and kill our people and blame it on Muslims.

The press is censored/ controlled by the government hence bad stories about the BNP are plastered into them.

[Negativelens]

This is not actually illegal as the new law actually states "information which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism" It's the fact that this law is being abused is the issue.

[chowmein911]

we had solicitors amongst the crowd at the palestine protests in london

[MikePhilbin]

it's the only way - as even Geroge Bush snr said when talking about his New World Order, "a World where the Rule of Law, not the Law of the Jungle, governs the conduct of Nations."

Now, what's not said here is the Law's and arbitrary thing agreed upon for no good reason, often in times of conflict. The law's a compromise, an understanding. Nothing else.

[whisfoxvictor]

"As secretary of the union branch of complete insignificance, i'd like to barrack the officer from twelve feet away whilst he's busy with someone else. I'll ask him why he's stifling my freedom of speech by taking away my table and then later(over a bottle of real ale in the student union bar)i'll brag about how i stuck it to 'the man'. Hero.

[homeagent]

it's time.

what are we waiting for?

[DJwrush]

That policeman has hate and shit in his heart

total arsehole, and his bosses

[Immanuelishere]

time to say no to one world government agenda!

talk to local politicians that brussels is not your or my government!!

time for freedom from suppression / police - big brother control

all the best

your friend in Eire~

[quietman18]

I wish mypool had elaborated on what they were protesting about. It all seems very chaotic to me. If it were the BNP protesting, I would be happy to see the police stop them.

[mvpool]

freedom of speech applies to everyone. unfortunately, no one can be denied this right if you want a fair society, even if you don't agree with them

[OverusedChewToy]

They could be protesting about children's hospitals for all it matters to their right to freedom of expression.

[7Vails]

@quietman18 Personally I don't agree with The BMP but I Belive in Freedom of speech for all (including the BMP) not a select few!

[quietman18]

@7Vails Yes, BNP should be allowed freedom of speech as long as the don't incite hatred and violence against minority groups. It's BNP and not BMP by the way.

[kacilee123]

scum police worthless arent worth a toss they shouyld be ashamed so this is great britian

[openairpreacher]

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[dizzib]

EU truth d o t o r g was recently shut down by a member of the bilderberg elite. So much for free speech...

[crazymoo56]

You are free to film in ANY public place and you are allowed to film ANYONE in a public place as they have placed themselves in the public view. This is law and it includes the fascist police.

[swinderby]

Why don't the relatives of these two old coppers say something to them? Y'know, their grandchildren, nephews etc. Don't let them get away with it!

[pduffy4]

fucking FILTH!!!!!!!!!!!!

gee, I wonder if the BBC would show this! They are too busy talking about Johnathan Ross and his chum for making a rude phone call! It fucking sucks!!!

[wandereragro]

UK Fascist state. The Muslims warned you these guys commit 'false flag' operations and blame it on others.

Carry on bending backwards while they warn you a beardy is going to kill you, if you willingly bend over, you deserve to get shafted.

[StealthWarrior1988]

It would be interesting to hear what they were expressing on that table, probably something about islam.

[wandereragro]

It was obviously to do with the NHS if you actually watched the video.

Fucking hate filled cretins. And for your information, they also stop many Muslim rallies, doesn't get reported though.

[liltbrockie]

what on earth makes you think its anything to do with muslims?

[StealthWarrior1988]

It was a joke, but cheers for taking me literally.

Criticising islam in the west usually results in the same arrests, and confiscating of property. Of course this doesn't mean it's what their message was, but that was the point of the joke, if you got it.

[Releasethefiles]

This is only the beginning people. Educate yourselves now in every way you can, your future might well depend on it. Start building up local community ties, especially vital resources and things you may well be without very soon. Dont be scared of police state tactics like this and above all dont get violent and give them a reason to lock you up, keep it civil like these great guys in Liverpool, make sure you film and document it wherever possible, thats our best weapon right now. Respect.

[chrizo79]

Rise up, the time is coming when the majority thinking outside of the box will outnumber the minority sheeple!.

[motorolarules]

first your guns and then the rest is easy

[cnotenocturnal]

This is sickening!

[Hostile]

Good work, guys. The New World Order boot is pressing down on the collective human neck. Peaceful resistance is the only thing that'll stop it.

[anthonyo4]

the streets in the new 'liverpool one' development are actually owned by a private company let me repeat that A PRIVATE COMPANY OWNS SOME OF THE STREETS IN LIVERPOOL CITY CENTRE and they hire "wardens" to "keep the peace"

what was this protest about anyways???

[PollenB]

Stop watching TV! Stop buying braindead "news"papers and magazines! Stop buying shite you don't need! Stop voting for war-criminals! Stop going to church too!

Isn't it obvious now, even to the most hardened believers of the official fairy tales, that 9/11 and 7/7 were designed to implement bank-owned police-states in the UK and USA? Muslims?? hahahahaha.

Peace from Eire!

[TodMcInerney]

Yes, u could most probably include the Barley Bombings as well, Australians were very much against going to Iraq. So the case had to be built to change opinion. As you allude, the plan to create bank owned police states is well under way ... going for total lockdown. Hey everybody come and get your free micro chip and we will insert it into you for free as well. What a bargin! U will be safe now that you are being monitored 24/7

Thank you big brother for making us controlled slaves. we love u

[PollenB]

Yes, I forgot about (sic)Barley, and Jakarta and a host others too!

[2012moe]

unbelievable ... just unbelievable.

[HumbleLife]

Independent thinker in sector 3, independent thinker in sector 3....

[TheSharpenedPen]

We've got someone reading an unauthorized pamphlet in sector 7. I repeat, unauthorized pamphlet in sector 7. Zoom in and capture facial characteristics... advise apprehend suspect over.

[lachlan1971]

Freedom of expression is a great thing. It means that you can stand on a street corner shouting "Hitler was right!" even if you don't agree that he was. And you can call the police "nazis" if they try to stop you.

[Rosafanta]

That fucking pig is a disgrace to his country. I was born in England, and when I see nazi thugs with tiny cocks like this being able to stamp all over people becuase they can hide behind their uniforms, then I know my country is dying. The kids I knew at school who had the rottenest teeth, and were the biggest bullies and sickliest cowards became policemen. Now that the state gives them permission to attack the weak, their little penises are erecting with the pleasure of it all. Fucking pigs.

[Subutubiata]

Are you virtually brain dead? Does you life lack meaning or purpose? Are you incapable of independent thought or moral awareness? If so your welcome in Britain's modern Police force. We're always on the lookout for obedient morons too stupid to find a normal job and dumb enough to follow orders. Join today.

[WatchZeitgeistNOW]

This makes me so angry. Thank you Liverpool for standing up against this police state.

[midnightblue72]

Remember, remember, the Fifth of November, the Gunpowder Treason and Plot. I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should ever be forgot... But what of the man? I know his name was Guy Fawkes and I know, in 1605, he attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament. But who was he really? What was he like?

[midnightblue72]

We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail. He can be caught, he can be killed and forgotten, but 400 years later, an idea can still change the world.

[midnightblue72]

I've witnessed first hand the power of ideas, I've seen people kill in the name of them, and die defending them... but you cannot kiss an idea, cannot touch it, or hold it... ideas do not bleed, they do not feel pain, they do not love... And it is not an idea that I miss, it is a man... A man that made me remember the Fifth of November. A man that I will never forget.

[capnvideo2006]

why did the police take the flyers? anybody know? What was their excuse? something terrible in the flyers? seems ridiculous that the police would act in this manner if they are only union flyers.That cop that picked up the table seemed a right prick.

[Zenman1976]

PASSIVE RESISTANCE WORKS.. non violence brings more people to the right side of things as it shows not only the correct attitude but if the police get out of hand then they are seen for what they have by and large become.. watch BATTLE IN SEATTLE its critical viewing

[InfoSauce]

How long do we have to go on seeing the police for what they are before someone comes up with a big idea?? How long do we have to see the police for what they are before the public says enough is enough?? How long??? What's it going to take for a small group of untouchables to come together, and harvest thoughts towards a solution???.... I'm all ears.

[m4SYE]

digusting, if they had been Muslim and slagging off britain wilst claiming state benefit this wouldn't of happened.

[revengzmine]

Stop reading the tabloids dickhead.

[aBookADay]

Thanks protesters !

Mindless moronic police.

What a bunch of BORG automatons.

A really disgusting police state.

Read David Icke's website

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search for "Latest Headlines"

Enlightening news every day to counter the police state.

[KARStarla]

What exactly are the police confiscating? What was the "content" now Im curious lol! It just seems the more someone says "no" to something it almost empowers an interest in it...just be sure to make copies (hope you did) then hang a sign that says "get it before it gets confiscated" (and it will spread like wildfire) lmao!

My feeling is that police that let themselves be used against the people and their rights have lent themselves to the betrayal of the people.

[CyberDurden]

There is no political solution

To our troubled evolution

Have no faith in constitution

There is no bloody revolution

[Eagle776]

don't worry,

when your government puts cameras in every room of your house it will be to keep you safe from AlQueda cat burglars.

PS, the bitish government did the 7/7 London subway bombings

[VegassTrades]

@Eagle776 7 people agree, it must be true

[VegassTrades]

on the same grounds, have you seen how many people have voted on x-factor?

[Fiddich123]

No doubt Jackboot Jacqui Smith personally thank the police officers involved for apprehending some terrorists and upholding our 'freedom'. Its funny there was no mention of this on the news or in the papers!! Government intervention perhaps??

[InfoSauce]

Ok, the useful idiots were outnumbered 100 to 1..... Apathetic sheeple.... Fckin hippies need to quit smokin the dope and start kicking some ass... You want freedom of expression?? You're gonna have to take it... Unfortunately that's what the agenda calls for, but what choice is there?... As you can see, peaceful protesting clearly accomplishes nothing... Need a different method, something the NWO didnt anticipate.... Suggestions??

[alexrobes]

as soon as you use violence the authorities know they can respond with violence.

and i dont think the "hippies" are up for a war with the uk/us government.

just look at how well the palestinians are doing with their use of violence, the israelis just kill them because they are evil terrorists.

follow ghandi. NONVIOLENT RESISTANCE

[InfoSauce]

Nothing would please me more than to see a nonviolent solution, but how?? Peaceful protesting does not work at all, it's completely ineffective. The police are well prepared for civil unrest in the U.S and the U.K... I fear that eventually violence will be inevitable... The general public is just too ill equiped and uneducated to develop an effective alternative... Gonna take a miracle if you ask me.

[alexrobes]

civil unrest means violence stupid.

as soon as you use violence the army will come in and stomp it out. (killing and injuring in the process) and the world will commend themm for stoping the terrorists that tried to take over. their is a zero percent chance of any violent revolution stoping the US army. if on the other hand you use peace and the army uses violence against the peaceful protesters it will spark international outcry like in india or recently in burma.

[MANofINACTION]

Noo, no no, historically, armies side with the civilians, since they are recruited from them. Look at the Afghanistan army. They support the taleban more often than not. Trying to surpress violence on a large enough scale would eventually make the armed forces quit. The saying is true "if violence wasn't the answer you should've used more of it."

[alexrobes]

yeah maybe the nazis should have used more violence,  than we'd be living in hitlers perfect aryan society. or what if we had just use violence on the iranians starting wwIII.

you people claim to be activists but your just war mongerers.

[alexrobes]

maybe you "are too ill equiped and uneducated to develope an effective alternative." but i'm not. its simple, use peace. i will stick to non violence. because if a violent revolutionary movement happened in america it would be stopped so fast your head would spin and its members would be jailed in Gitmo indefinately. on the other hand if there was massive peaceful protests the international community would rally around us.

[InfoSauce]

You are a fcking hypocrite.... You insult, yet you claim peace.... Keep smokin that shit dude.

[InfoSauce]

There's your dumbed down apathetic public for ya folks... Perfect example of mass media left right brainwashing, instead of thinking of solutions you'd rather shoot your mouth off and start a pissing contest... I am not interested in reading your pavlovian conditioned responces pal... If you dont have anything productive to say then keep it to yourself, and stop being part of the problem... In other words, lead follow or get the fck out of the way.

[alexrobes]

because these protesters remain peaceful most youtubers that sees this video will be on their side.

if they had resorted to violence this wouldnt have been called a protest it would have been a riot and they all would have been arrested possibly beaten and maybe seriously injured or killed.

and on top of all the people watching this video would side with the police. who are trying to keep the peace.

[alexrobes]

your apathy, cynicism and defeatist attitude is the problem with america. your attitude of its hopeless so we might as well start being violent is standing in the way of an "effective alternative."

wake up. your no revolutionary your a lazy kid who is afraid to stand up to the authorities without a weapon in your hand.

[InfoSauce]

Total double think, maybe you should watcht he video again.... Look closely... Notice the "peaceful" protesters?? Did you also notice how ineffective it was in stopping the police from stealing and kidnapping??... Or did you miss those parts???.. Stupid mthrfckr!!!

[alexrobes]

anyone who wants to know how this guy "infosauce" thinks please visit his channel. lol.

he's one of these nuts that think all the videos we saw on 911 were computer generated fake images.

your obviously working for the cia. (poisoning the well) so all truthers look crazy.

and what a coincidence your here telling people that violence is the answer. and that we should take up guns, so that the federal government can declare martial law.

are you in langley now?

[avzett]

The police work for the New World Order and are therefore the enemy of the people, and need to be treated as such.

[airman1980s]

This is another Western system, whom while terrorizing, impeding and in some cases imprisoning people for their opinion, pukes its war-cries of "freedom!"...The power structure, war pigs and elite establishment must laugh themselves to sleep every night! And why not, they have a virtually inescapable surveillance grid and pantheon of ill-defined "laws" at their disposal!..This fucking outrageous SHIT must end and very, very soon!

[AzowRagbak]

To imagine this is taking place just on the other side of the north sea.. So sadening.. I didn't see the police in Holland do this yet, they probably did. But I didn't see it happen yet. Makes me wonder what would happen if I would take protesting stuff to the market here in Holland. Opposing my government, NATO, and other things like the government's 911 conspiracy. Man... seeing this is really unbelievable.

[Futurecast]

I don't cry very often - but this is utterly devastating.

This is a massive step toward fascism (but not just in itself it needs to be seen in the modern context of the police behavior). Let's just pray to god they police don't go any further. Better yet let's organise and not let them do so.

[JollyRoger446]

for fux sake there's only two lousy cops there -- why doesn't someone hit 'em with a bat and run down into the tubes?? what the hell is wrong with these Brittish puffs? beat the crap out of the two of them and run, stupid.... they won't be so quick to try it again.

[revengzmine]

And be spotted immediately on the hundreds of CCTV Cameras in the area... yeah right

[robbieo79]

LOL!

[DeanoWD6]

You need a solicitor to man each table quoting the law to the police so they cannot break it themselves. This was used by the organisers of raves in the 1980/90. The police would come to close down the rave and a lawyer would be paid on the door to tell them they had no right to enter. Classic. Where the hell are the professionals? Lawyers, doctors dont hide your head in the sand until its too late!!!

[DJAttorney]

Some of us are doing their bit, but it remains hard to get heard...

[DJAttorney]

...in reply to Deano

[Wiebe1967]

This is how the police create 'home grown terrorists' IM AUFTRAG!

[SarahSoulFood]

Google "common purpose" and Brian Gerrish and educate yourselves Britain is having change forced on it by the EU. We need to stop this NOW !

[Zenman1976]

FIGHT THE POWER... No to NWO.. No to Global Fascism, The power lies with the people..

[hrudu]

Thank You Europe for fighting back!

[hrudu]

Thank you Europe for fighting back!!!

[joni9780]

Nice1, ignore the trolls. Personally I would do another stall straight away build on the momentum & buzz on this.

How about rolling stalls, everytime the police turn up move to another part of the town centre etc. Maybe there could have been more resistance, by holding onto stall etc. look at it this way, at worst you get a caution or community service & alot of respect& free pints, plus potentially compensation if police make mistakes.

[joni9780]

Well done scousers for standing up to this, John Lennon must be proud. Lets keep ignoring nazi troll drivel postings RE islam, their idea is to distract & waste our time, so dont let them. Everyone knows we are against fascism wether islamic, bnp or state fascism.

[checkerblob]

The NWO and the illuminati is real.

[nrishiraj]

People really need to wake up at this crucial time! It won't be long with the imposition for the NWO, unless we all non-corporate to the system! Time to unite and what we all agree on and that's FREEDOM for ALL!

[WiggyWo]

So when Muslim terrorists do this in England the gutless police do nothing about it, and let the terrorist do it freely while murdering innocent people on subways. But when students do it the Nazi's take action?

[BennyFonzarelli]

I'm all for free speech but does it have to be so loud and whiney?

[111ERNY111]

chadorr24 .... that isn't true there are many videos of the American police breeching basic human rights.

I won't tit for tat argue about this, please search you tube.

What this is about purely and at the heart of humanity, is our basic right to peaceful protest and free speech and our freedom to practice and display such views. TYhis is not a British Thing , it is Global.

[chadorr24]

i disagree about america being worse than uk.. american cops typically let demonstrations occur without interfering, unless a fight breaks out or you throw a bottle at someone or similar.. they certainly won't steal your property right out in the open like this.. my opinion , at least here in texas

[wills120]

Just don't let them ever get your guns.

....oops, you already let them do that in the UK. Big mistake.

[alexbassmaster]

lol we never had them to begin with here! but you can get them with a license ;)

[touredo]

That jackass cant start saying cameras are evidence and just take it from people, these assholes need serious karma adjustments.

[technoxes]

fucking nazi polizia skum.

line up ladies and gentlemen,it's time to hand over our lives.

[pvhn]

yeah right but were was this demo about / topic? I don't know it, it might even be a demo for the benefit of Muslim hatred and destroying of the way of brithish life.

[revengzmine]

Another tabloid reading racist dickhead. Would you support the use of police force in that instance?

[skinnym666]

This is nothing compared to American public protests these days. In America, I am sure if you did half the stuff those people did to the police, you would be in the hospital. Further they would surround you with heavily armed men, and either beat you, or arrest you to prevent your message from being heard.

[acdecoy]

@skinnym666:

Yes, but everything in the USA is fucked up.

[flippolas]

It's so easy and 'cool' to bitch about the police but as soon as people have a problem they can't deal with, they're the first people they call up. So many protestors purposely bait the police then act like fucking martyrs when they're arrested for it.

I don't dispute that freedom of expression is a hugely important thing for everyone but I do agree with SVWoody that this was antagonised by the protestors.

[wrathofgod8668]

Well done them ppl who were there,the filth makes me sick good job i wasnt there i would of been arrested

[kurdishmob]

fuckin cops ....these people dont realize that they are takin their own freedoms away as well.....sad ....sad

[GoRla89]

England is fucked lmao!

[holyshiz123]

not as fucked as your country is going to be :D!!!!!!!

[GoRla89]

well we'll be following your example!

[SVWoody]

This was inflamed by a bunch of loudmouths. People are alowed peacefull protests, but if they are distributing offensive material then it will be confiscated.

[Electrochix]

And what offensive material where they distributing? Last time I checked it was not even illegal to distribute anything deemed offensive, as long as that material complies with the law. They were doing nothing illegal. the police had no right at all to do what they did. They have to comply with the law same as we do.

[frozensunuk]

Who decides what's offensive? You, me, the judge, the pope?

Perhaps all the offensive people should be "confiscated," put somewhere out of trouble, where they can't be a disturbance to honest, kind, decent folk..?

[sarahdoll4u]

the think is they're getting away with it and we're letting them, it's time this stopped.

[impoid]

those are some seriously pathetic policemen...

[turbish]

Heh, nice to see blatent police state action at work in England, reminds me of my home ,America.

This type of thing will not stop untill masses are awake, that is exactly why they are doing this to your protest. You my friends are bigger threats than any terrorists, and soon you will see protesters being called terrorists.

Hey at least all your major banks arent being bought by your government with taxpaying dollars, screwing you in more ways than one. Or are they? probably who knows?