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  • People tell me that Illuminati has penetrated ISKCON since long time back?

  • JOIN ONE dharma my indian brothers.

  • simply superb thankyou very much

    

  • As above so below, god is everywhere, we live in god, god is inside each of us. Each soul has same quality of the universal mind, only difference in degree. We are part of the great creator.

  • whats the name of the song and who sang it?

  • Bhagavad gita Chap 10 text 8

    I am the source of all spiritual and material worlds. Everything emanates from Me. The wise who know this perfectly engage in My devotional service and worship Me with all their hearts

  • i got married to this song

  • God = Fail

    Atheism = Win

  • So which part of your mythical god did Cancer come from ?? And AIDS, Typhoid, Cholera, E-Coli, Boccelia, Cot-death, Heart disease, War, Famine, Plague ???

    Answer that in a stupid video holy boy !!!!

    If you really want to connect with the material world drop your pathetic god and get with it !!!

    Religion has caused more death through war over the ages than any other system of beliefs............... your ridiculous "god" kills the innocent, live with that !!!

  • @davef21370 LOL WE are not following the way he wants us to live, NOT WAGING WAR, not eating other living breathing beings (plants are ok :P). I simply have to say to you that when you let that rage go he will come to you

  • @davef21370

    In the Vedas it is explained that in the Kali-Yuga, passion and ignorance are rampant and these 2 modes support illnesses, untimely deaths and just misery overall, that is the quality of the 4th age.

    Also, for the record, God never said that material creation was a walk in the park. In actuality he spoke against us coming/falling here, because suffering is inevitable in material existence. But like any loving father, he gave in to his nagging children and did not intervene.

  • @davef21370

    It is explained in the srimad bagavatham, that in the 4th age religion would be mostly corrupted and used as a tool of oppression and to create a divide amongst the people of the world. The spiritual path is mostly a lonely one in this age.

    Its amusing, it seems like the typical response that atheists give when it comes to speaking against the established corrupted religions...lols, you have NO idea what Vedic literature is all about. Such rascal. Educate yourself, then argue.

  • @davef21370 God is all these things that your saying. Is it hard to understand that God is the cause of pain. Pain is life, without pain there is no pleasure. Pain at some point may even be looked at like the greatest gift of god. For he has given us an exercise machine to use, our brain to seek good, so our conciousness does not atrophy.

  • Is this a joke?

  • Rock and roll nut jobs, do you have country music too? BTW there is only one God and he is angry. There are not many ways to him, he defind the Way....Jesus. 

  • beautiful!

  • Just because humans have concepts of things and are imaginative does not mean we should have the gall to believe that the entire, ever expanding universe is all made for us. That is petty and self-centered.

  • @Aresftfun

    Agreed. We can't be the only things alive and developed enough to explore in ALL of this ever-expanding universe, supposedly created for us and us alone. And I really hate the belief that we alone are "created in God's image" and not everything else alive. VERY self-centered. Sometimes makes me wish I wasn't human.

  • @Techsketch OMG how did you find my comment?

  • test

  • scribd (dot) com/nb812

  • The fact of the matter is, despite these corrupt leaders, the ideals of the movement has been the same since it began and that is helping people to attain Krishna Consciousness. It's purpose was, is and never will be for Satanism.

    Provide proof when you make such claims.

  • Oh and to clear up the misconceptions about ISKCON. It was created to help people attain Krsna Conciousness, it was not created for 'worshiping Satan' and none of it's ideals nor goals are based on Satanism.

    ISKCON however has had some bad leaders over the years (Srila Prabhupada does not belong to this group) unfortunately. However, all religious groups have corrupt leaders as well as good leaders. It is not limited to the Hare Krishna movement, it applies to Christianity, Islam, etc.

  • Oh and one other thing, Srila Prabhupada never told his followers that it was okay to 'rob, molest, and even murder'. You have a wonderful way of twisting the truth to benefit your own ideals.

    Another thing, claiming to be a follower of Jesus and spreading such hate and intolerance is simply an insult to Jesus himself. Jesus was never about hate nor intolerance. You using Christianity to justify your own hateful ideals is tarnishing both Christianity and everything Jesus stood for.

  • 'brainwash' people.

    You are not 'helping' anyone by forcing your beliefs down other peoples' throats, it is infact working against them. Calling Hinduism a 'cult' alone shows your hateful ideals.

    Wonderful work Ben. Keep up the great work!

    Hare Krishna!

  • @Bombeni, I have seen many of your hateful, intolerant comments on other Hare Krishna related videos.

    If you consider a group which helps people to realise Krsna without causing harm to any being to be a 'cult', may Krsna help you!

    Oh and the fundamentals of any dharmic religion (which includes Hinduism and the Hare Krishna movement) is for a person to think for themselves and to not cling to dogma but to wisdom, that alone disproves what you said about this wonderful movement trying to

  • In any Religion God teaches to multiply love, men find ways to divide it..!

  • yup, awesome. its even abt regaining position with the supreme abode

  • Jesus Christ is God Almighty manifest in the flesh. If you want to know what God is like and the wonderful plan He has for our lives then look at the person of Jesus Christ. He is my lovely Lord, Saviour, Friend and Guide - to be worshipped forever.

  • @jmsbk12345 Yes, and of course, God killed himself to appease himself so that he could forgive everyone, of course after coming alive after 3 days, wait, why is such a small amount of pain enough for millions of souls to burn for eternity? Also, why wouldnt God just forgive? It would be much easier than killing himself. I mean come on, if you did something bad and the judge said "bring out jesus!" would you be thankful that he was beaten to a pulp or feel angry at the judge?

  • Moksha, Enlightenment is earned, not given or begged for, unlike Heaven. That's the difference between the two. Getting to heaven is not that difficult, all a pedophile or a terrorist needs to do is to grovel & beg like a dog. He gets to enjoy a flesh-happy heaven while his victims live thru hell. Moksha is earned thru knowledge, and knowledge has to be earned, not given. A Teacher who gives pass marks to a failed student is not doing him a favor. Reach for the Higher goal, reach for Moksha.

  • Beautiful just Awesome ... : D

  • fiddler on the green, zeigtgeist is very good for a rough understanding of the illegal financial system and its quiet enslavement but as far as religion it is laughable, only one who is most uneducated would first of all be relying on such knowledge as zeitgeist debunks, and secondly it is poorly put together, zeitgeist mentions not the real money masters in the catholic church their 2000 years of stolen gold, control of freemasonry, corporations, banking systems, and national governments.

  • this is classic roman strategy, the jesuits are all about this kind of thing, look at second general, borgia, he and his brother and father all had sex with their sister, when his father became pope alexander he had a special room where he said it was not a sin to do anything he wished for the sole purpose of raping young men. this is not vaisnavism read and hear actually what founder said and what he taught iskcon is the exact opposite giving false semblance to the clothing and rituals used.

  • bombeni, i concur with you that noone should have anything to do with iskcon to run not walk for sure, as iskcon is a satanic cult,but krsna and vaisnavism is over 5000 years old, it certainly was not ivented by the founder of iskcon, iskcon is satanic, the founder was naive on the subject of european history and did not see what would be the inevitable result of such an organization and orginizational structure, this organization was infiltrated, and used for extremely satanic purposes,

  • i am "brave" enough to answer your question, sri prabhupada did not permit any of these things, where u can find one reference to him saying these things are allowed? nowhere he never allowed. this is what happens to organized groups they are infiltrated, and used for nefarious purposes, for financial gain, and to sully their good name, ex. england, united states, protestant church, labor unions, iskcon, rome infiltrates any kind of threat to her global dominance and destroys them.

  • the real god is not a man, or woman,

    is eternal energy , this unniverse is an illusion to the hologram we are just a the product of thought, in this world conciousness exists on a balanced matter,  the world is an easy way of understanding ourselves, god is playing us, so that we in turn can figure out god, it likes creation,

    i sound really confusing i kno, we need this story so our minds dont freak out

  • That's why you must refer to a guru. It is dangerous to guide a lost soul, when you are not yourself a spiritual master.

    I just repeat what I know is true from what I've learn of Prabhupada, the Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, the Bible Quran.

  • IS one of you brave enough to answer this? If this prabapuba guy was supposedly pure, and a friend of God, sent by God, then why did he allow his followers to rob, molest, and even murder???? If you are in ISKCON then surely you know the history from the 60's and on. Someone please explain my question. Give me a valid answer and I promise to say three hail prabapubas.

  • same reason god let the isrealites get robed raped..murdered..etc..karma is karma..un avoidable...u have to pay 4 ur actions even tho u have repented..u cant pray away ur past sins..u have to pay 4 them

  • If anyone here is tempted to join the satanic cult ISKCON, you'd be better off not believing anything at all. Satan is busy building his own kingdom, just as Christ is. Do you wish to spend eternity with Satan? Hare Krishna cult was invented by an old fart who came to the US and lured burned out hippies to panhandle and give him the money. They became the most prolific con artists in modern history, the worst part was the way they abused and molested their children.

  • Hundreds of those who were children of the HK's are struggling to live with the nightmare childhoods they had to endure: living in shacks w/ clapboard floors covered in urine and feces, roaches. Wearing the same diaper for an entire day, being molested by pedophiles, which there were several of in the cult. God doesn't come to their alters dedicated to a boy with blue skin, I can assure you. You need to RUN, not walk, from anything having to do with hairy krishna or ISKCON.

  • I dont know exactly whats happenning in ISKCON in the US. But i can assure you Prabhupada has come from the lineage of cirtified spiritual viashnawas, so he is a genuine lover and god sent devotee. The things you explained dont normally happen in India in any of the vaishnawashrama. Not also in ISKCON India i believe!! You got to understand..

  • I studied this cult in depth, for a graduate thesis. Where do you think the billions of dollars was coming from that allowed this guy who abandoned his wife and children to grow a religious cult worldwide?? His followers were mostly burned out hippies. Figure it out. HE KNEW OF THE CRIME WAVE BEING LEVELED BY THESE FOLLOWERS, which is how the money kept coming in and he never demanded for it to stop. Soryy if the truth hurts, I am only giving you the facts.

  • I dont know what you studied, but I can say by looking at your reply my friend that you have not really gone deep into this. He wanted to show the world, if he can bring these hippies in line, then his process of realisation can be used for one and all. Whenever there was a strife when he was alive, he had warned to leave the organisation many times. ...cntd...

  • You have seen it in a perspective, which i had never thought before, but thats not becuase I am not tempted to think that way, but because I know that its not correct. Read prabhupada's history before he arrived to the US. Just to give you a tip of iceberg, he arrived to the US when he was 69 years old. Now what money he wants earn at that age my friend? I am not in any kind of argument to defeat you or something, because thats not the point. He came to the US coz he was sent....thats it

  • and also his followers in India mostly are either professors or graduates from elite institutions. Again, I dont know much about how it works in the US. Anyways, you are entitled to your opinion, just thought to enlighten you with some truths...

  • @Bombeni Calling it a cult is sickening - to me the definition of a cult is one where non-followers are thretened with Hell & followers are lured with offer of an easy access to Heaven. Heaven segregated to themselves, God nothing but a proselytizer, acting as a doorman keeping out non-followers. That is much worse and that sir is a cult. Care to call out those cults masquerading as religions?

  • Bombeni please don't lie.

    We all know you didn't study it for a graduate thesis.

    He left his wife with permission, and it is a very common religious practise in India to leave the wife in the hands of the capable children so the father can practise detachment from family life and practise spiritual life.

    There was not billions of dollars flowing in then and never was. I do not understand what source you are getting these statistics from.

  • It took him many years to leave his family, because they were'nt ready for him to leave.

    This is not a sect or cult. This is Science of God. I'm thinking you work against this movement on purpose with such comments.

    Yet, we still respect your ridiculous interpretation of the facts. I don't see any thumbs down, but many unfavorable replies.

    Doesn't that tell you something about God conscious entities such as myself and the people with intelligence who replied to your comments?

  • @MyWordizBond

    Bottom line? This video has been up nearly 3 years and has 147 ratings. Not a lot of interest by my viewpoint. Yes, it definitely fits the parameters of a genuine cult. When you are IN a cult though you are not aware of it, THAT is what a cult does, it brainwashes its followers, until someone finally shakes some sense into them. I'm not working against you I'm trying to help you.

  • But if what u are saying is true in the US about paedo cases. Then its very very sad and bad. I just pray that krishna would punish the culprit as soon as possible...

  • The real problem is the materialists which hijacked the society.

    It is a well known fact that the demons gave Srila Prabhupada mercury poisoning and then hijacked the movement.

    You cannot say that these followers of a short time were qualified to lead the movement.

  • It was arsenic poisoning. Autopsy showed it in his hair. This is spy type of poisoning.

    I was told from a 1972 vanaprastha SP follower..

  • ahaha..watch zeitgiest..

  • I am GOD!!!! REALIZE THAT BITCHES!!!

  • this a gud video showing ur affection and love for god.but evrything we see around us external energy (maya).thee illusion that lures us in.we are part of the universall energy(god) but trapped in external energy by our own deeds..our eyes are deciving from truth.ever wonder whats behind that ever ending dark space..hare krishna

  • Ben Prabhu! This contribution is fantastic...best regards to you.

  • I have been meditating for a year now, and today my body was shaking so badly in meditation, i couldnt control my body, my leg went behind my head, i started doing really crazy yoga poses and then fell into deep silence, when i got back up, i saw the clock and i was surprised "8 hours have passed?" someone tell me why this happened to me, i think benloka can answer me

  • trippy or what lol?

  • Have good time and may you accept God as He really is. A point of light, an ocean of light and peace an purity.

    With lots of love,

    Diana

  • And we play our roles through this material body. But we are light, not the material bodies.

    And he is the most High soul, also a point of light. But he never takes a body on his own, so He can never become impure, as we souls do.

    Now is there to help us again to become pure.

  • He's a point of light. Only a point. As the soul is, too.

    And he teaches us that to become pure once more at the end of the wheel of time. You know this, as a Hare Krishna, do you? (I mean the wheel of time with Golden, Silver, Copper and Iron age).

    It's now the end of this and God teaches us, that we are all points of light, that sit in the middle of our forehead in our bodies.

  • Yes, it's true, there isn't more in the material.

    But you cannot find God in the material, because he isn't material.

  • I understand what you mean, and in a way you are totally right, but this can be seen from different perspective..

    We can see the manifestation of God when we look at the material energy, because it is also part of God. ;) Hare Krsna!

  • GAH people stop expressing your personal veiws on life on the comments unless it has been requested or your talking about the actual video!!!

  • man, I really enjoyed your videos, I dont have the impression that you are dumb. Thats the reason why I ask: do you really believe the stuff in this vid? O.o

  • Wao, i am satisfyed. makes me trip for really.

    Hare Krsna,

  • god isnt real

  • :D umm

  • joegunns123 - God is real Gods are real Goddesses are real magick is real the afterlife is real demons are real angels are real henosis is real people are real this world is semi-real

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  • Read Gaia hypothesis - Lovelock

    this is some serious panentheistic shit you're into

  • Theres one problem with this video. What about the motherfuckin' aliens? yeah you heard me..... some of 'em don't have eyeballs. So pbbbbtttt. blew that theory out of the water.

  • Bhagavad Gita clearly speaks about spacecrafts, so you're ignorance has been made public 10 months ago.

  • Beautiful Beautiful Beautiful!!! Musical brilliance.

  • Re:-

    Rasabihariji "...no religion that kills animal would be anything to do with god."

    Lets see. It wasn't an original plan nor intent.

    Gen 1:29. was a Vegan Fruitarian Diet.

    (Tomatoes, Squash, Eggplant being "Fruit", Seed in the midst, look it up)

    Gen. 9:3 Added VEGETABLES (AS in Root Vegetables) to the Diet with a caveat that it be *Living* food (As in Fresh).

    " I delight NOT in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats." Isaiah 1:11 & Heb. 10: 5-6.

    of course I am a biased vegan, tho.

  • well, i don't believe he was divine if he exists, but i think he had a lot of good things to say.

  • I'm sorry but no amount of butchering of a Massive Attack song and rambling statements over nature videos is going to make me realise something that i feel is totally irrelevant to myself

  • I hope Massive Attack never hears this cover

    I hope I never hear it again

  • here here

  • You must smoke alot of weed. I aint hatin. I know how good it is for trancendental meditation, but bro make something at least a little bit less gay. Nice blowjob at 2:18 FAG!!

  • I like what your doing! If I wasn't a nihilist I might be more interested lol but keep it up, it is always cool to see and experience new religions, as long as they aren't being shoved down your throat

  • i agree sk8errrr, unlike some christians coming here and shoving their religion down our throats. God i hate fundies.

  • Besides, who said anything about proselytizing--I was asked a question, and I truthfully answered it. I'm sorry if truth offends you.

  • "Look to Jesus, not this video for a great life! " those are your words. You were being bigoted, and i was being an ass, because it got my ire up. All i said is basically, don't come to a non-christian video preching Christ. Many of these people at one time probably were Christians, and it obviously didn't work for them, so they seek enlightenment elsewhere. So, no one needs to hear proselytizing. And if your statement wasn't proselytizing, please, tell me what is?

  • Sorry Ben, i just hate preachy fundies, well i know hate is a strong word, but they get my ire up. I love the video and how you explain the earth being the physical incarnation of God. It is a beautiful video, and it definitely helps to relate to Deity better. It is a wonderful metaphor for the fact that deity is all around us, and most of us are too short sighted to see it, much like our fundie friends who want to inject Jesus everywhere. Christ's teachings were good but Krishna's are vibrant.

  • That being said, i am more into western esotericism, but i am very much drawn to the east. I think western and eastern spirituality share a lot of commonalities, and in fact, there are theories that a lot of western religions wouldn't be here without Hindu influence, etc. So, definitely, would love to see more. Can't wait for more videos on KrishnaLoka :)

    Ray

  • Something to consider... it is not Krishna's OR Jesus' teachings that are lacking but that their teachings have been distorted and misunderstood down through the ages. I have come to see that what Jesus actually taught and what people SAY He taught are quitedifferent. Plus Jesus&Krishna speek on many different levels. The dualistic mind of man CANNOT fully grasp the NON Dual Teachings of either Jesus OR Krishna.. who are acually the same ONE. Thus the NEED for Grace. One=ALL that IS.

  • I would tend to agree, the teachings have been twisted and bent to conform to Man's lust for dominance over his fellow man. I believe everyone has divine potential, we're all "little gods in embryo", i guess you could say. It is about the evolution of the soul, and working towards divinity. But don't limit it to just Jesus and Krishna, there are many teachings that teach basically the same things. The Buddha taught transcendance as well, etc.

  • At the same time, one doesn't have to "Worship" these beings to transcend or to realize one's own divine nature. That's my opinion though.

  • Though i am still unsure if Jesus was ever really alive, or was just a story. But that's neither here nor there.

  • i hate how youtube arranges comments.

  • Jesus has never been proven. Although i like the things he personally says, the man himself has never been proven to have existed.

  • Obviously, you have never done any serious research--check out anything written by Josephus.

  • for all those who don't believe in him just say you disagree don't bother being so spiteful

  • I really appreciate you making these videos so I can better understand where you are coming from.

    And I'm definitely not going to push my own beliefs on you, like other people just love to do.

  • Jesus is an unproven theory?

  • Look to Jesus, not this video for a great life!

  • How will jesus give me a great life?

  • Wow--it would be impossible to completely answer that question--but I'll try. . . .he will give you peace, contentment, self-esteem, a deep sense of fulfilllment knowing you are doing what you were born to do, he will help you in your interpersonal relationships, he will give you adventure, risks, and just plain fun. And you will know that you have made an eternal difference in this world and the world to come.

  • I can get all of these things from here krishna as well not to mention any islam, buddah and a whole bunc of other religions, what makes jesus so special.

  • All those mentioned died and stayed dead. Only Jesus defeated death!

  • My point is that you dont need religion to be happy, I'm happy and I'm an athiest, I dont believe in any incantition of god and I have most of those things you mentioned, what make religion so special.

  • and you have proof of this how? Because the bible tells you so? How is that proof?

  • No, I have proof of it because that is what happened in my own life.

  • coolmom, that is YOUR personal proof, it isn't proof to me or anyone else who isn't Christian. Your personal proofs and truths are yours, and you trying to push your personal ideas of truth on everyone else is uncalled for. This video is about Hinduism, and if you have questions and such about it, bring them to the fore, but don't come here and lay your faith on the rest of us. Honest discussion is one thing, proselytizing is not welcomed.

  • So in other words, I can't be "bigoted" but you can--wow--usually intolerant bigots aren't so open about it.

  • As you suggest Kawamura what people often call "proof" is only a limited proof of the subjective mind. To perceiveTRUTH Absolute one MUST Transcend the mind, which takes an act of Supreme Grace. The Transcendent mind alone realizes the true greatness of those rarest of BEings such as Jesus AND Krishna..who are ONE and the same. These Grace Bestowers do NOT manifest simply to get souls to heaven but to REVEAL to those who are ready... their own Divine Nature, their own Perfect ONEness.

  • I'd rather look elsewhere than Jesus thank you very much.

  • Wow--I cannot believe that you actually believe all that tripe!! Jesus in India? christians slaughter animals for justice? You are truly a completely confused person. Try going to a website called "world revival church" dotcom and open up your mind a bit.

  • Look to Jesus, not this video for a great life that has meaning.

  • God was mad at the Hebrews because they complained about only having manna to eat, not because they wanted to eat meat.

    God himself demanded animals to be sacrificed to Him on the altar.

  • this was beautiful =)

  • isvarah paramah krsnah

    sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah

    anadir adir govindah

    sarva-karana-karanam

  • Addition to my comment- Jesus needed Judas to free him from his body says that God is a limited being, why is that so. God is Perfect in many ways possible. Regardless even if Judas did not betray him that would have caught him him and persecuted him. I am now tired of the word religion. My belief is in a Pefect God of no bounds. God does not promote not having self control. God will not let us kill beasts in place of killing man. That would be promoting not having self control.

  • The explaination of why Eve wanted to eat of the Tree of knowledge is promoting learning which is a good thing. But saying the God of the Old Testament was evil is just so funny. God told them not to eat of it and she eating from it is direct defiance of God which was a sin. If she did not eat of the Tree of knowledge we would not need to learn the path of salvation cause we would not have sinned. Promoting Eve to do such a thing states the Men is more divine than God. That is totally ludacris.

  • Jesus was vegetarian. Not only that he came to end animal slaughter if you read the unchanged teachings - not in the bible. The bible is a book for christians. Christians are a group of people started by Paul and Romans etc, who used Jesus' name. Jesus never started any religion, only spread peace and love. You can follow Paul and Romans, Im following Jesus. The funny thing is though even your bible condemns flesh eating...

  • ..."Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox with hatred within." ~ Proverbs 15:17

    "Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of something to eat." ~ Romans 14:20

    "He who killeth an ox is as if he slew a man. And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear, for your hands are stained with blood, and your mouths are defiled with flesh." ~ God, Isaiah 1:15,66:3

  • Continue-...inaccurate. Romans chapter 14:20 says-"For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that who eateth with offence."And Isaiah 1:15 simply says- "And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear, for your hands are stained with blood, and your mouths are defiled with flesh." And in Isaiah 66:3 the structure of the sentence states that a man kills an ox as if it were a man...

  • ...and so on states a mans belief in Pagan Gods. Revelation 22:18-19: For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. If any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and out of the holy city and from the things written in this book. Do not put scriptures where they do not belong.

  • "I have set you as the light of the world, and as a city that cannot be hid. But the time cometh when darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people, and the enemies of truth and righteousness shall rule in my Name, and set up a kingdom of this world, and oppress the peoples, and cause the enemy to blaspheme, putting for my doctrines the opinions of men, and teaching in my Name that which I have not taught, and darkening much that I have taught by their traditions.
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  • ...But be of good cheer, for the time will also come when the truth they have hidden shall be manifested, and the light shall shine, and the darkness shall pass away, and the true kingdom shall be established which shall be in the world, but not of it."

    The Gospel of the Holy Twelve, Lection 95, Verses 3-4

    -THE ENEMIES OF TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL RULE IN MY NAME

    -TEACHING IN MY NAME THAT WHICH I HAVE NOT TAUGHT

    -THE TIME WILL ALSO COME WHEN THEY HAVE HIDDEN SHALL BE MANIFESTED...

    i.e NOW

  • Christianity a so called new religion was started by people who followed Christ, hence the name CHRISTianity. Your gnostic beliefs came from christianity if you dont know. gnostics tried to upgrade the miracles Jesus did by creating false stories, hence some true gospels were expeled from the bible because gnostic lies were spreading like wild fire in the 1 century. Please stop talking about your religion-the enemies of truth and righteousness shall rule in my name. You sound conceded.

  • Genesis 9:3-"Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." Read it yourself. Truly you should know the God of the old Testement is in Jesus, so do you call Jesus evil?

  • Gensis 9:3 - every moving thing that shall live may be food for you

    Scholars observe the word used translated as "every moving thing" is HERPETON which literally means Reptile.

    So God gave concession to eat COLD BLOODED animals only, crusataceans, mollusks, clams etc, NOT ANIMALS WITH BLOOD which is consistent with the next verse...

    Genesis 9:4 - but you should NOT eat flesh with it's life, that is its blood (i.e TURKEY)

  • ...THEN GOD SAYS EVERY ANIMAL KILLED EATEN WILL KILL AND EAT YOU

    Gensis 9:5 - and your life I will see, at the hands of every creature you slay

    So JONA...

    1. God gave a CONCESSION to eat cold blooded animals NOT cows, lambs, turkeys, pigs etc

    and

    2. He said every animal you eat will eat you too, which is consistent with Jesus words here...

  • 1)God gave every beast that moves on the land in air and sea and creepeth, as said in Genesis 9:2. Meaning not just the unclean foods you explained but every thing that moves.

    -"And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered."

  • ..." For I tell you truly, man is more than the beast. But he who kills the beast without a cause, though the beast attack him not, through lust for slaughter, or for its flesh, or for its hide, or yet for its tusks, evil is the deed which he does, for he is turned into a wild beast himself. Wherefore is his end also as the end of the wild beasts."

  • Although I do have to add that Nazerians do not do certain things like eat meat, cut hair(of any sort),etc,etc. But Jesus did not and will not abolish the dietary laws God had set up. Also to make things clear, Jesus came to solely bring salvation to all people. His purpose was to bring forgiveness of the sins of men to God. He was the final blood offering. He never abolished any laws but establish the more important laws and finally get rid of the laws God already abolished in the Old Testament

  • You are right :) He did not abolish the dietary laws God set up. He re-established them after the hard hearted Israelites and so on had gone against the natural diet of man...

    "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, they who partake of benefits which are gotten by wronging one of God's creatures, cannot be righteous: nor can they touch holy things, or teach the mysteries of the kingdom, whose hands are stained With blood, or whose mouths are defiled with flesh...

  • ... God giveth the grains and the fruits of the earth for food: and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenance for the body. The robber who breaketh into the house made by man is guilty, but they who break into the house made by God, even of the least of these are the greater sinners. Wherefore I say unto all who desire to be my disciples, keep your hands from bloodshed and let no flesh meat enter your mouths...

  • ..., for God is just and bountiful, who ordaineth that man shall live by the fruits and seeds of the earth alone. But if any animal suffer greatly, and if its life be a misery unto it. or if it be dangerous to you, release it from its life quickly, and with as little pain as you can, Send it forth in love and mercy, but torment it not, and God the Father-Mother will shew mercy unto you, as ye have shown mercy unto those given into your hands."

    HAVE MERCY AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE MERCY.

  • AND God had given the fruits and seeds and said it was VERY GOOD in the beginning Jona. But look at his reaction when he gave quail to the Israelites after they rejected Manna

    "Before the flesh was even between their teeth a great plague struck them down" (NUMBERS 11:3)

    that plague was LUST for flesh and God followed with...

  • .."eat flesh until it comes out of your nostrils and it becomes loathsome to you" (NUMBERS 11:18-34)

    GOD IS CLEARLY DISSATISFIED WITH FLESH EATERS JONA!!!

    consequently the graves of those who chose flesh over vegetarian manna were called the graves of lust.

    My advice for you is STOP lusting after flesh, there is grave consequence. If you read the original unadulterated word of Jesus before the changings in the bible Jesus condemned FLESH, ALCOHOL. MATERIALISM - CHRISTMAS IS ANTI-JESUS.

  • 1-I don't celebrate Christmas because it is not the Lords birth day.2-God slain them because they sinned. Lusting for things is sinning, it shows lack of self-control."And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague. And he called the name of that place Kibrothhattaavahd: because there they buried the people that LUSTED".God gave them flesh to eat.

  • Lusting for things is wrong in the sight of God. 3-The gnostic gospels for the umpteenth time are pseudo gospels, meaning they are phoney,false,lies. Happy Holidays.

    P.S-Man cannot become divine or equal to God. That asumption is a sign of trying to grab power. You were created by God and therefore cannot equal him. God/Jesus/Jehova condemn's those who also lust for power like Gnostics.

  • I'm done with you. You are religious not Godly. People find religions as they fit their desires whilst kidding themselves God is pleased with them. Thats what a religion is - You join one that fits your desires. You can eat burgers and drink beers and have sex inside marriage and pretend God is pleased and its perfect. So I give up. Hare Krishna, I sharnt be reading your reply x

  • Please don't go. I I'm trying to prove to you and your gnostic friends that your wrong about God. Sex inside marriage is not wrong but lusting for it is. On the other hand your people have littered the ancient world with pseudo gospels. I come with full humbleness to compel the sinners to come to God. His words are whole and true do not leave this conversation without taking knowlegde and wisdom with you. I never did and never will choose my God. But choose wisely who you follow. Be safe

  • Even God finds the smells of burning animal flesh good. That's why many times he demanded that rams, oxen, sheep, etc. but burnt on the altar as an offering. How many sheep did the Israelites sacrifice? Must have made a powerful lot of smoke. . .

  • I cant even begin to contemplate how some people actually believe the bible is the word of God

  • wow--sorry you are so narrowminded.

  • oh the irony. just becuz ur born in a country that reads the bible, u assumed that was the one that represented god? naivety, narrow mindedness...the bible is like god for 5 year olds, if ur smart enough go read the indian scriptures like the gita or why not go research where the bible came from and go see the teachings of jesus before they were changed by the romans in nicea etc to make the bible. u blindly pick up a book and just believe without researching, dnt call me narrow minded

  • How do you know where I was born? And no, it's not because I live in a country that reads the bible--it's because I have experienced the God of the bible for myself. I have felt His presence, His all-consuming love for me, that is why I choose Him. Maybe you should spend some time studying the Bible--you may be surprised.

  • u say "the god of the bible" like there are many gods. if uve experiences god, it just god, no god of the bible. we have been here 400 million years, so has the vedic knowledge from which i study god, ur bible has been here for 2000 years. and everybody knows its a bunch of lies about jesus written by the romans in nicea. only fools read it. what kind of god allows animal slaughter and condemns people to hell eternally etc. madness

  • There is no proof that we have been here 400 million years. You obviously believe everything you hear, instead of studying things out for yourself.

    God does not condemn anyone to hell, they choose to go there by rejecting Him, another thing you would know if you took the time to study things out for yourself instead of just believing whatever anyone tells you.

  • oh yeah we all choose to go there...do u even know what hell is? 7 planetary system below this one, petrloka, a planet u get reincarnated onto and suffer 100% opposed to varying percentages like on a middle planetary system like earth until ur karma is burned then u re-enter a middle planetary system as an animal, working your way up to human life again. ur rubbish says u sin for a few years and get eternal punishemnt, thats makes god stupid evil and unjust....

  • the way religions see god reflects themselves though, christians slaughter millions of animals daily for meat, they think thats justice. christians are bad people who eat flesh, thats a terrible sin, especially as jesus came to end animal killn though you dont know that since the bible is romans teachings not jesus'

    and yes u do know the earth is 400 millions years, science tells u as do the ancient sciptures called the vedas that jesus read when he studied in india, carry on believing tripe

  • Because the Bible has been able to provide the world with true accounts of proficies, unlike whatever you believe in. The Bible was writen by men and woman moved by God through the Holy Spirit, so how can you or I say the Bible is the word of God. Time and time I have seen you on other youtube pages claiming christians cannot defend our faith, yet I have answered of azsupermans questions and even gave light to the likes of you, while you sit around saying: Christian are lost.

  • the bible is good for you, not for everyone. Leave people alone if their beliefs are different than yours.

  • ur an idiot.

    u get told the bible is holy, u believe

    u get told it was written with some holy spirit. u believe.

    a child can realise no religion that kills animal would be anything to do with god.

    the god of the cannibals is a cannibal, the god of the merchants is a merchant.

    bunch of merciless deceiving morons. stop replying to me. go keep kidding yourself. absolute joke u guys r

  • Re:-

    Rasabihariji "...no religion that kills animal would be anything to do with god."

    Of course...your replies & castigations if not utter blootery of response really do commend YOUR religion...which is what..oh the "holy sepulcher of the Ad Homen & baseless retorts"??

    Yeah...I'd switch to YOUR religion in a heart beat...clearly a religion of peace, logic & thoughtful discussion & debate.

    NON!!

  • "Verily I say unto you, for this end have I come into the world, that I may put away all blood offerings and the eating of the flesh of the beasts and the birds that are slain by men. In the beginning, God gave to all, the fruits of the trees, and the seeds, and the herbs, for food; but those who loved themselves more than God, or their fellows, corrupted their ways, and brought diseases into their bodies, and filled the earth with lust and violence...

  • ...Not by shedding innocent blood, therefore, but by living a righteous life, shall ye find the peace of God."

    Jesus, Original Nazarene Sciptures

    "After my departure there will arise the ignorant and the crafty, and many things will they ascribe unto Me that I never spake, and many things which I did speak will they withhold, but the day will come when the clouds shall be rolled away, and the Sun of Righteousness shall shine forth with healing in his wings" Jesus, Essen Gospel

    BIBLE = LIE

  • Re:-Rasabihariji

    "but those who loved themselves more than God, or their fellows, corrupted their ways, and brought diseases into their bodies, and filled the earth with lust and violence..."

    EXACTLY. The NT Charge By The *Messiach* that "Know Ye not that the Kingdom of the *Creator* is WITHIN you* is NOT a Toranic Teaching but more of an Indian/Buddhism Teaching.

    Living at peace by NOT killing I would agree with you Totally.

    Christians/Jeudi's simply want to Ignore the original & primary law.

  • So there you go! You got it!

    Definition of religion is knowing God. No matter the ''religious'' process. Anyone born on earth can achieve liberation. Hare Krsna!

  • @MyWordizBond Religion: A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe.

    If you are right, then Zen Buddhism is not a religion. They dont believe in a god.

    And anyways, which "god" are you talking about?

  • @Aresftfun The Creator..

    What they do is in relation with what the creator wants.

    Perhaps I should have said religion is about finding God, and that's certainly what the buddhas will do eventually. Let's face it, nobody can really know God unless youare qualified, and probably doesn,T happen on this human platform, but we can guess that there must be an operator.

  • @MyWordizBond I know God better than you.

    Yeah Buddhists will change their religion based on yours because you said so, of course. Yes you certainly could guess that there is a creator. You certainly could...

  • @Aresftfun I didn't say that! Because we know that no machine works without an operator, and we see this arrangment, we can guess that there must be an operator,,

    Is this clear? what is the difficulty?

  • @MyWordizBond Just because we humans are good at making things does not mean that we are important or that there is a being similar to us that made everything. That is self-centered and arrogant. The universe does not bend to our whim, we are just a spec of a spec in this vast cosmos. For instance, we can make chairs, but chairs do not reproduce or reproduce with differences. It is a weak metaphor in essence. We could look at evolution and guess "There is no way the bible is right about this."

  • @Aresftfun OK, I'm not an englishmen. What I'm saying is (not guess) but come to the conclusion with different hypothesis that this hypothesis is the good one. Knowing we won't know for sure..

    Now, you claim you know God better than me, but you haven't scrutenisingly studied me, and you say I don't know God..

  • @MyWordizBond I'm being ironic in my saying that. That every religion says that they know God better. It's really just repeating the process over and over. You say tomato, they say tomahto. The reason I did not say "I" is because I have a belief in no such all-powerful authority.

  • @MyWordizBond IM sorry but I just have to add that any living form eventually is meant to realize this great truth! :)

  • 2)Genesis 9:5 explains why they sacrifice. The sins they commit means death, so the death of the animal will be in place for their life. Notice the semicolon in the text. But in the second part of the verse it means if a man kills one man, then that mans life God will require it. And herpeton means 1-a reptile,creeping animal(mostly linked to snakes) . 2-4 legged animals or birds, marine animals also.

  • In my defence I say I am following Jesus and not Paul Because a blind man cannot lead a blind man lest he fall in a ditch. You on the othe hand follow gnostics who are worst than Paul. Christianity was founded by Jesus While your gnostic teachings where founded by gnostics in early second century. I don't Reject the God who was(God of old testament), is(Jesus), and is to be. Do not follow blind men but follow God(The holy trinity). And about the passages from the bible you quoted, it was

  • By the way I want to know who wrote the Gospel of Eve, cause that is funny. Please answer. And if there is such a thing as being re-incarnated then why is the Original Old Testimate Bible state that there is such a thing.The Gnostic Gospels of Jesus's Infancy and Life from the lost years contradicts what Jesus stood for and contradicts Jesus as a loving God. And the God of the Old Testement evil,That's funny also.

  • I also have done some reason from one of the Gnostic gospels-Jesus said to his deciples that people will hide and alter his true words and when they bury it they will be found again and people will know his true words. I say it is false. God would not allow his words to be buried or hiden anyways. And the fact is all his words is to be read as one and is one. If the words are one then why are the so called true words buried and cut of from other true words.

  • I have therefore concluded that the Gospels like The Gospel of the Holy Twelve were false Gospels; 1st-because they were written no earlier than the second century,and 2nd-If they were made in the 2nd century (AD I might add) then these Gospels were not written by any of the Apostles or eye wittneses because most of the Apostles died in the late 1st century if not all. 3rd the 4 gospels were dated no later than 120 AD or 110 AD.