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Shims were commonly used for many years... because better options were not available. However... high-end cabinet installers knew this was an inferior way to install which is why many used the ladder method. (ie: toe-base system). This works fine. It's just too slow and expensive. Rule of thumb. Always give your project the "best possible foundation". The EZ-Levels are an inexpensive and easy solution.
KitchenDesigner2 3 months ago
I'm not buying the expansion/contraction theory regarding the shims moving out of place. Its very common to set the cabinets on their shims, yet when you screw them to the wall (properly), the shims are no longer bearing the weight of the cabs. Plus many cab installers don't snap the front shims, they assume the tile guy will do their job for them, Wrong, Tile guys just pull the shims out.
Do your job Cab guys!
Nice product though, gonna look into them.
tailhunter 4 months ago
The "rear" of the cabinet would be supported by the screws but the fronts must also be supported. Most people tend to lean on the "front" of the granite while reaching the taller cabinets etc. And yes... shims definitely move around during expansion / contraction. Granite is not flexible what so ever. If shims loosen up or move even slightly... the granite is no longer supported and any load could cause a crack. We sold a LOT of granite over the years due to this very issue.
KitchenDesigner2 3 months ago
@KitchenDesigner2 No doubt you sold a lot of granite due to cracking, but improperly installing granite can just as easily be the culprit. Cab installers don't always install an 8' "L" shaped cabinet run level. There are always dips and crowns. And the granite guys (typically some $8/hr crew who wants their day to end early) is not going to give a hoot about the granite cracking years later.....
tailhunter 3 months ago
Im wondering if the weight of the granite will make the floor sag. Wouldn't that cause the granite to crack too?
shouldibehere 4 months ago
@shouldibehere Your floor should never sag under the weight of granite. Although granite is heavy it's not that heavy. If you floor is sagging you would need to fix that first. (faulty joists etc)
KitchenDesigner2 3 months ago
Yep! Funny how the cabinet installer blames the granite guy and the granite guy blames the cabinet installer... and guess who's stuck paying for all new granite. Wish I would have know about this a few years ago! GREAT PRODUCT
hawkeye22100 4 months ago