yea, as a musician, i would say no, im sorry, but you're wrong on this one. I understand how the two songwriters write and how they think when they write. When you write music, you kind of develop a pre concieved notion of how things will build and where they will progress to. There's a difference between these two riffs and it is vast, if you play guitar. And I can say with confidence i do NOT believe that Dave was thinking of 'One' when he wrote that song.
@crystalballer7983 I'm a musician too and I understand how two songwriters write and how they think when they write. I know it's a ripoff. Sorry, but I can say with confidence that Dave was thinking of "One" (and how successful the song was) when writing this song.
Well its pretty similar but not the same. And of course they "steal" some riffs from ethiter. And One is a 100 times better than this song. But I love both Megadeth and Metallica!
@bonninostz No, Youthanasia, The World Needs A Hero, United Abominations and Endgame are all sellout albums. They sound nothing like their early stuff and are incredibly radio friendly.
@MoonMoney1 i personally think that it isnt. and your being so byast over metallica, remember, trashing dave is like trashing metallica, because he is a huge part of metallica. he wrote half the songs on kill em all and ride the lightning, and helped make the band popular. im personally a much bigger megadeth fan, dave is my guitar idol, but i cant and wont deny that mettalica makes great music to. i like em both,.endgame is closer to their first couple albums than ever!
@bonninostz Not really. Dave played a very minor role in Metallica. Not to mention Dave co-wrote LESS than half the songs in Kill Em All. He also had very little to do with Ride The Lightning. He contributed, what, three riffs to the entire album? That's nothing.
Endgame is a sellout album. Still has the radio friendly 3-4 minute songs that have a verse-chorus-verse-chorus song structure. So no, it's nothing like Megadeth's early stuff.
@MoonMoney1 the same 3 riffs the band has been repeating with their songs.its daves chord progressions and riffs that are continually recycled from the beginning
@bonninostz Nope. Dave's chord progressions are nothing original, and, honestly, sound rather amateur to begin with, and Metallica didn't recycle those progressions at all. That was okay for Metallica's first album, but Metallica got a much more polished sound as they went on. A polished sound they would not have if Dave stayed in the band. Cliff Burton was far more important in Metallica's sound than Dave Mustaine.
@MoonMoney1 uhhmm ya he did. tell me a guitarist and proof that they made it before him. has to be before 1983. because dave used it in metallica too.
Umm, why did you ignore my point about it not actually being a progression? Too scared to admit you're wrong?
The spider chord technique has been used by classical guitarists for a long time. It was used in the baroque period, and even Randy Rhoads used it extensively before Dave. Except he used it for more than power chords, whereas Dave only knows how to play power chords.
@MoonMoney1 ok so im wrong. dave mustaine. marty friedman. kerry king. chris poland. and chris broderick. all guitarists of megadeth. they are much better than kirk and james. and gar samuelson was a jazz drummer before megadeth. he was the best drummer they had and is definately better than lars. metallica is an ok band but without dave and his music they would have gotten nowhere. i guess lloyd grant was ok. but they have nothing on megadeth.
@frankenstrat25 Not really; James and Kirk are both better than every Megadeth guitarist. As far as lead goes, Megadeth is predictable and boring: shred same notes over and over again with no variation or sense of melody.
As far as riffs, go James has Dave beaten. Dave doesn't quite have the timing or the down picking technique that James has, nor does he have the sense of melody that James has. Dave plays power chords down the chromatic scale all the time with little variety.
@MoonMoney1 you obviously listen to very little megadeth. kirk is not that good of a guitarist. he rapes the pentatonic scale over and over again. plus he cleans up his mistakes with overuse of the wah wah and insane amounts of distortion and gain. dave has a more cleaner sound. marty had the least distortion out of all megadeth guitarists and he still had a fluid solo. marty liked to put all the feeling he could in solos. dave is a rather angry man and he puts that in his solo and his voice
@frankenstrat25 No, it's actually Dave that abuses the minor pentatonic scale and plays it very sloppily and with no sense of melody. Dave isn't clean at all. His other guitarists are, but not him. In fact, that's exactly how you can tell if a solo is being played by Dave or one of his other guitarists. If it's clean, it's one of the other ones. If it's messy, it's Dave.
Marty is more melodic than Dave, but unfortunately can't resist the urge to shred, rather than doing something more emotional
@MoonMoney1 look at yngwie. hes very emotional with his guitar. people express their emotions in different ways when i play my guitar and i wanna be emotional i wont just use the huge bends. slowly moving up and down scales then i do a little shred for like 3 seconds and im back to full emotion. dave isnt that sloppy really hes not the cleanest hes not the best guitarist hes not the best singer hes not the best songwriter joe satriani steve vai john petrucci are all very much better than D and K
metallica sucks, did you know that: ride the lighning, the call of ktulu, leper mesiah,motorbreath, mechanix,jump in the fire, blahblah blah blah are dave songs, so metallica stolen that!
@IRhysG1995 Not really, every album after Rust IN Peace is complete garbage, and any real music listener knows this. Megadeth really only has two good albums. Metallica is far better and that's a fact.
@MoonMoney1 That's not a fact because millions of people will tell you Megadeth is better you can't call an opinion fact and Countdown To Extinction is a gem, Metallica after Black Album and even Black Album Was Just Pathetic. Load, Reload, and St. Anger. I mean come on the most popular they were was mostly because of the cover of Whisky In The Jar. Plus, Mustaine helped to make Metallica and tthat is a fact.
@WweThemes120 That's not true, since I haven't had a million people tell me that Megadeth is better. Countdown To Extinction sucks, hence the low review scores, while The Black Album is excellent, hence the high review scores. Dave never really contributed much to Metallica - he just rode their coattails.
@MoonMoney1 Yes it is because millions of people don't need to tell you anything, it's just an opinion. It cannot be proven something is better if it's just based on taste. Reviews r just peoples opinions and you saying the Black Album is excellent is ur opinion which not everyone believes. Just because Lady Gaga gets good reviews does that make her better than Metallica no and Mustaine helped make the Kill Em All album and demos which lead to them being discovered in the first place. Exactly
@MoonMoney1 Yes it does because reviewers may have different taste. Even most Metallica fans say tht it was way to mainstream. Also, you still cannot deny Mustaine the credit he has had. Reviewers r bullshit and most time can be paid to say something anyways.
They sound fucking different, oh and to the uploader @MoonMoney1 I think you should edit the description because Risk is not a sellout album, but leave the originality thing.
Did you prove Frusciante is better? Id like to see your proof, cause I have research, like from scientists. The kind of research that has results. the kind of results that prove Guthrie is God. Which brings me to my next point, how did you hear Guthrie admit he wasn't as good if man can't comprehend the voice of God?
@MoonMoney1 I see your proof, and its inconclusive. I've just debunked it. I did some detective work and found evidence that your proof was altered to show false results. Nice try though. Btw kudos for keeping the Jason Becker war going for the last year and gathering so many fans (wrong word?). That guys music is pretty boring.
@MoonMoney1 I know you may think that Johns better right now, but studies have shown the Frusciante is less significant than a dingleberry on one of Guthrie's ass hairs. When recently questioned about his thoughts on Guthrie, John claimed he often wakes up in night sweats knowing he cant play with as much feel. He also mentioned that he often masturbates to Guthrie's command of the fretboard.
@MoonMoney1 You've used incorrect grammar my friend. In one of your earlier posts, you didn't use a predicate. You only said, "You mad". Art thou familiar with the word predicate? Si no, búscalo.
@MoonMoney1 Just so you know, I've been quoting what you've been telling other people. Quit being so lazy. You know if you scroll down the comments you will find it. It's not my problem you're so lazy.
@MoonMoney1 You said the grammar of my quote was wrong. The quote is what James said. Dave wrote most of the song. Kirk changed the solo and James the lyrics.
@MoonMoney1 Are you sane? Have you been taught proper grammar? Neither of us have been making grammar mistakes. You have done nothing to prove me wrong. You couldn't even refute my proof. You just went off topic saying that my quote didn't have correct grammar. I have news for you. That was a direct quote from James Hetfield. You're basically saying he uses bad grammar. Any sane person would say that you've lost in every argument in this page. Here is all your proof:
@MoonMoney1 What lack of grammar knowledge are you talking about? Are you talking about grammar only used in the French parts of Canada? French uses different grammar rules than English. I like how you care more about grammar than music. It seems to me that you're only grasping at straws to make it look like you're proving a point. I know grammar quite well. It appears you are the one lacking grammar skills my loony friend.
@pat2595 Nope, I'm not from French Canada. You're just poor at using proper English. You're just mad because I've proven you wrong on music and I'm also more intelligent in English.
@MoonMoney1 You're funny. I like you. Will you please point out my grammar mistakes for me? Do Canadiens have different grammar than people that live in the US of A? I know this is off topic, but have you seen the New Metallica inspired by Old Metallica video?
All I did was paste a direct quote from James Hetfield. Look again at the quotation marks. Man, you really must be stupid to not realize that quotation marks usually are used when people quote something. Have you ever taken an English class before, or is your native language French? You give Canada and Metallica a bad name.
@MoonMoney1 Since you're dumber than you seem with your 1.9 GPA I'll just give you the information that's there because I'm a nice guy and you're a lazy slacker. Here is what James said: "Dave brought that song over from one of his other bands; back then it was called "The Mechanix". After he left Metallica, we kind of fixed the song up - the lyrics he used were pretty silly."
Type this in your web browser. Look at what James says. mmm dot encycmet dot com / songs / sk4horse dot shtml Just change the first three ms to ws and change the word dot to an actual . Sorry about not responding earlier, YouTube wasn't letting me post in your video. Sorry about forgetting the link in my last post.
@MoonMoney1 An example here is The Four Horsemen. Check out this link. If you can't click on it, copy it and paste it. The information here is pretty accurate and easy to find. Look at what James says.
@pat2595 In Dave's case, he doesn't have legal ownership of the songs he got writing credit on, because the songs belong to Metallica and their label. So Dave can't say Metallica stole his music.
@MoonMoney1 You've done nothing but insult me and Megadeth. Metallica wouldn't respect you for that. Metallica respects Megadeth and Mustaine. The members of Metallica have publicly said they like a lot of songs by Megadeth. If you think that Megadeth plays nothing but crap, you're saying Metallica has bad taste in music. That just makes you look like a fool who doesn't know what you are even talking about. Those aren't opinions. Those are facts.
@MoonMoney1 All right, as much fun as I've had debating with you, it is time for me to move on. This argument shall end in a draw because you didn't prove me wrong and I said that I liked Metallica better anyways.
Yeah you can say that but you can't prove it at all. I was asking a question than taking a guess at the answer. I was unsure whether or not my guess was correct, so I put a question mark around that because I was asking if that was the right answer to my original question? Don't you know how to infer anything at all?
@MoonMoney1 Have you ever taken an English class before? I bet you're not even a native speaker. Just because you think you are smart doesn't mean you are or should pretend that you know something. What was your high school GPA? 1.90?
@pat2595 No, I'm very smart. You're just mad because I've been owning you in all these debates.
By the way, the last sentence should be "What was your high school GPA, 1.90?" since just saying 1.90 is not a complete sentence. And my GPA was 4.0, so you lose again. =)
@MoonMoney1 You're stupid. You only write out words for numbers one to ten. Any number after ten or below 1 you are supposed to write as a numeral. Once again your proof is opinionated. Look up fact and opinion in the dictionary. And whoever said we need to stop fighting who was better between the two bands is right. Face reality. They're both good bands whether you say so or not. To disagree is to disrespect Metallica's genre, especially when you said you would listen to that crap rap.
@pat2595 No, that's not the rule for writing numerals. In the case I pointed out, he should have written it out the number rather than using the numeral, so you're wrong. It's also funny that you say what you think the rule is (which is wrong) then go against the rule in the same sentence.
Actually, only one of these bands is good, and that's Metallica.
@thecravenator42069 No, I never grow out of good music. By the way, you're supposed to write out "twelve" in that sentence, rather than using the numeral.
@MoonMoney1 I like Metallica better so i already thought Metallica was better but i didnt need to fuckin hear YOU say it so shut the fuck up. I wasnt even talking to you i just commenting on how you stupid people are. Your little fucking comment just proved me right bitch
@MoonMoney1 How can you possibly say that it's fact when other people have completely denied it? I have a few questions for you? What two colors make up green? Which of the three colors (including green and the two primary colors that make green when mixed) is the prettiest color?
@MoonMoney1 I'm not saying Metallica's not, but Justin Bieber is better than Megadeth, right. I know your OPINION is an OPINION because it's debatable because you debated with like two other people in this video. Game over. I win, you lose, no contest.
@moonmoney1 Do you know the difference between fact and opinion? The difference is opinions are debatable whereas facts are undebatable. My opinion is Megadeth is as good as Metallica but I like Metallica more. Nobody sucks in either band. That is my opinion because it is debatable.
Nah, AIC kicks metallicas ass. Metallica is a bunch of old guys with guitars trying to act cool while AIC wen Layne Staley was with them had the vocals that Fagellica could NEVER have pluse Fagellicas guitarist sucks. He even had his girlfriend banged by Dave Mustaine. Besides I'm pretty sure Kirk turned gay so ya......Metallica= fat old men trying to act young and AIC= one of the most talented bands of all time. Well I'm going to bed. I win, your suckass stupid comments held no wat
Nope, it's the other way around and I'll prove it: you keep bringing it up, so that obviously means you are upset about me owning you in this debate :)
@ThatOneGuy010 Sorry my friend, but you have lost. Megadeth is a terrible band, and Mustaine is a very overrated guitarist. Metallica kicked him out because he sucked. :)
Ya those weren't facts but I understand that you are upset about losing your debate :). So I'll add YOU to MY list :). By the way. John Frusciante SUCKS :).
Ah but you wished you would own a fine musical specimen like me :D too bad, I'm already owned. Lol. By the way, wat you called facts were just opinions, I hope you know. I am still the victor :)
Nope, you have just been using Mascaraca fanboy biased opinions NOT facts so don't get the two mixed up cuz you'll look even more foolish, I win. :) you have been a great debator but now I must debate with others. All I need to do is find a Nirvana vs Alice In Chains and whoever debates with me there will be my next target! So long! \m/
Lol ya right, keep dreaming! It's more like the other way around because I have used actual facts and you just use opinions and call them facts. You have nothing else relevant to say! Lol. You have now been defeated. I THINK I would know about metal cuz I have listened to nothing but metal my whole life. I have defeated your debate MoonMoney1 :) because of your incompetence and your lack of knowledge of metal, I win :).
megadeth fucking sucks.
TSweet00th 1 month ago
Risk sucked anyways... So who cares
Flapswitch13 1 month ago
count down to extinction just before 3 minute mark sounds like metallica-one
iceoblivion 2 months ago
@colonelpanic414 That would be false.
MoonMoney1 2 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Hey it's ok man, I know you're a troll, but I guess I'm an internet masochist. Have a good evening sir.
colonelpanic414 2 months ago
@colonelpanic414 You sound mad because I've proven you wrong. Probably why you're running away so easily, giving me the quick win.
MoonMoney1 2 months ago
Not a rip-off, it just sounds similar. Get it right dumbass.
InkedandScarred405 4 months ago
@InkedandScarred405 You mad.
MoonMoney1 4 months ago
@InkedandScarred405 lol, some songs may be like that, but Dave has definetily ripped of Metallica in atleast one way or another
Metadeth1997 2 months ago
yea, as a musician, i would say no, im sorry, but you're wrong on this one. I understand how the two songwriters write and how they think when they write. When you write music, you kind of develop a pre concieved notion of how things will build and where they will progress to. There's a difference between these two riffs and it is vast, if you play guitar. And I can say with confidence i do NOT believe that Dave was thinking of 'One' when he wrote that song.
crystalballer7983 5 months ago
@crystalballer7983 I'm a musician too and I understand how two songwriters write and how they think when they write. I know it's a ripoff. Sorry, but I can say with confidence that Dave was thinking of "One" (and how successful the song was) when writing this song.
MoonMoney1 5 months ago
@MoonMoney1
you mad
PETSKULAATTORI 3 months ago
@PETSKULAATTORI You sound mad.
MoonMoney1 3 months ago
ummm...that's not even in the same key. you're an idiot.
QuizzicalHuffle 6 months ago
@QuizzicalHuffle You mad.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
Risk = shit
001CAFSAMECH 6 months ago
Holy shit that cat gave me the chills :[
MetalSupporter95 6 months ago
@r00rie You mad.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
@MoonMoney1 how the hell is this ripping off metallica? it isnt close to "one" !
GrunchRingo 6 months ago
@GrunchRingo Get your ears checked.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
Well its pretty similar but not the same. And of course they "steal" some riffs from ethiter. And One is a 100 times better than this song. But I love both Megadeth and Metallica!
luc00leh 6 months ago
@stevethecelt46 So true.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@bonninostz No, Youthanasia, The World Needs A Hero, United Abominations and Endgame are all sellout albums. They sound nothing like their early stuff and are incredibly radio friendly.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 i personally think that it isnt. and your being so byast over metallica, remember, trashing dave is like trashing metallica, because he is a huge part of metallica. he wrote half the songs on kill em all and ride the lightning, and helped make the band popular. im personally a much bigger megadeth fan, dave is my guitar idol, but i cant and wont deny that mettalica makes great music to. i like em both,.endgame is closer to their first couple albums than ever!
bonninostz 7 months ago
@bonninostz Not really. Dave played a very minor role in Metallica. Not to mention Dave co-wrote LESS than half the songs in Kill Em All. He also had very little to do with Ride The Lightning. He contributed, what, three riffs to the entire album? That's nothing.
Endgame is a sellout album. Still has the radio friendly 3-4 minute songs that have a verse-chorus-verse-chorus song structure. So no, it's nothing like Megadeth's early stuff.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 the same 3 riffs the band has been repeating with their songs.its daves chord progressions and riffs that are continually recycled from the beginning
bonninostz 7 months ago
@bonninostz Nope. Dave's chord progressions are nothing original, and, honestly, sound rather amateur to begin with, and Metallica didn't recycle those progressions at all. That was okay for Metallica's first album, but Metallica got a much more polished sound as they went on. A polished sound they would not have if Dave stayed in the band. Cliff Burton was far more important in Metallica's sound than Dave Mustaine.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 dude dave mustaine invented the spider chord progression.
frankenstrat25 6 months ago
@frankenstrat25 No he didn't. Also, the spider chord isn't a progression, it's a technique for switching string roots on power chords.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
@MoonMoney1 uhhmm ya he did. tell me a guitarist and proof that they made it before him. has to be before 1983. because dave used it in metallica too.
frankenstrat25 6 months ago
@frankenstrat25
Umm, why did you ignore my point about it not actually being a progression? Too scared to admit you're wrong?
The spider chord technique has been used by classical guitarists for a long time. It was used in the baroque period, and even Randy Rhoads used it extensively before Dave. Except he used it for more than power chords, whereas Dave only knows how to play power chords.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
@MoonMoney1 ok so im wrong. dave mustaine. marty friedman. kerry king. chris poland. and chris broderick. all guitarists of megadeth. they are much better than kirk and james. and gar samuelson was a jazz drummer before megadeth. he was the best drummer they had and is definately better than lars. metallica is an ok band but without dave and his music they would have gotten nowhere. i guess lloyd grant was ok. but they have nothing on megadeth.
frankenstrat25 6 months ago
@frankenstrat25 Not really; James and Kirk are both better than every Megadeth guitarist. As far as lead goes, Megadeth is predictable and boring: shred same notes over and over again with no variation or sense of melody.
As far as riffs, go James has Dave beaten. Dave doesn't quite have the timing or the down picking technique that James has, nor does he have the sense of melody that James has. Dave plays power chords down the chromatic scale all the time with little variety.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
@MoonMoney1 you obviously listen to very little megadeth. kirk is not that good of a guitarist. he rapes the pentatonic scale over and over again. plus he cleans up his mistakes with overuse of the wah wah and insane amounts of distortion and gain. dave has a more cleaner sound. marty had the least distortion out of all megadeth guitarists and he still had a fluid solo. marty liked to put all the feeling he could in solos. dave is a rather angry man and he puts that in his solo and his voice
frankenstrat25 6 months ago
@frankenstrat25 No, it's actually Dave that abuses the minor pentatonic scale and plays it very sloppily and with no sense of melody. Dave isn't clean at all. His other guitarists are, but not him. In fact, that's exactly how you can tell if a solo is being played by Dave or one of his other guitarists. If it's clean, it's one of the other ones. If it's messy, it's Dave.
Marty is more melodic than Dave, but unfortunately can't resist the urge to shred, rather than doing something more emotional
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
@MoonMoney1 look at yngwie. hes very emotional with his guitar. people express their emotions in different ways when i play my guitar and i wanna be emotional i wont just use the huge bends. slowly moving up and down scales then i do a little shred for like 3 seconds and im back to full emotion. dave isnt that sloppy really hes not the cleanest hes not the best guitarist hes not the best singer hes not the best songwriter joe satriani steve vai john petrucci are all very much better than D and K
frankenstrat25 6 months ago
@frankenstrat25 Yngwie isn't emotional at all.
Also, all those guitarists you listed are people who are technically skilled but lack any kind of songwriting abilities.
MoonMoney1 6 months ago
@frankenstrat25 Just buddin in but um dave uses heavy distortion on just about every song
deadly2426 6 months ago
dave mustaines sell out album risk? god, do i need to count up metallica albums from 90s +
bonninostz 7 months ago 2
@bonninostz And every Megadeth album since Countdown To Extinction.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
metallica sucks, did you know that: ride the lighning, the call of ktulu, leper mesiah,motorbreath, mechanix,jump in the fire, blahblah blah blah are dave songs, so metallica stolen that!
lronmaidenRgods 7 months ago
@lronmaidenRgods Actually none of those songs are Dave's songs.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 nope and nope, megadeth is way better
lronmaidenRgods 7 months ago
@lronmaidenRgods Nope, I'm actually 100% correct. I've proven Metallica is better.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@IRhysG1995 Not really, every album after Rust IN Peace is complete garbage, and any real music listener knows this. Megadeth really only has two good albums. Metallica is far better and that's a fact.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 That's not a fact because millions of people will tell you Megadeth is better you can't call an opinion fact and Countdown To Extinction is a gem, Metallica after Black Album and even Black Album Was Just Pathetic. Load, Reload, and St. Anger. I mean come on the most popular they were was mostly because of the cover of Whisky In The Jar. Plus, Mustaine helped to make Metallica and tthat is a fact.
WweThemes120 7 months ago
@WweThemes120 That's not true, since I haven't had a million people tell me that Megadeth is better. Countdown To Extinction sucks, hence the low review scores, while The Black Album is excellent, hence the high review scores. Dave never really contributed much to Metallica - he just rode their coattails.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Yes it is because millions of people don't need to tell you anything, it's just an opinion. It cannot be proven something is better if it's just based on taste. Reviews r just peoples opinions and you saying the Black Album is excellent is ur opinion which not everyone believes. Just because Lady Gaga gets good reviews does that make her better than Metallica no and Mustaine helped make the Kill Em All album and demos which lead to them being discovered in the first place. Exactly
WweThemes120 7 months ago
@WweThemes120 That doesn't explain why The Black Album gets higher review scores than Countdown To Extinction.
James was the main person behind Kill Em All, so I'm afraid he deserves most of the praise for the album.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Yes it does because reviewers may have different taste. Even most Metallica fans say tht it was way to mainstream. Also, you still cannot deny Mustaine the credit he has had. Reviewers r bullshit and most time can be paid to say something anyways.
WweThemes120 7 months ago
@WweThemes120 Explain how mainstream is bad. Last I checked, an album can be mainstream and still be good.
Proof all reviewers get paid to give certain albums high scores?
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
wow the first 3 notes are the same.
If you want a rip off look at enter sandman!
Beerisgood27 7 months ago
@Beerisgood27 Or FFF ripping off Motorbreath.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
They sound fucking different, oh and to the uploader @MoonMoney1 I think you should edit the description because Risk is not a sellout album, but leave the originality thing.
infuryify 7 months ago
@infuryify I Lol'd. Fanboy alert.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Well yeah I'm and Overkill fanboy, but my comment has nothing to do with Overkill...
infuryify 7 months ago
@infuryify And a Megadeth fanboy.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
Did you prove Frusciante is better? Id like to see your proof, cause I have research, like from scientists. The kind of research that has results. the kind of results that prove Guthrie is God. Which brings me to my next point, how did you hear Guthrie admit he wasn't as good if man can't comprehend the voice of God?
sirus1987 7 months ago
@sirus1987 I just showed you my proof, so I've won.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 I see your proof, and its inconclusive. I've just debunked it. I did some detective work and found evidence that your proof was altered to show false results. Nice try though. Btw kudos for keeping the Jason Becker war going for the last year and gathering so many fans (wrong word?). That guys music is pretty boring.
sirus1987 7 months ago
@sirus1987 No, my proof is conclusive and proves that John Frusciante is better is better.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
Guthrie Govan is better than everyone, especially John frusciante
sirus1987 7 months ago
@sirus1987 He's actually pretty awful. Objectively, John Frusciante is much better than him.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 faggot
sirus1987 7 months ago
@sirus1987 You mad.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 I know you may think that Johns better right now, but studies have shown the Frusciante is less significant than a dingleberry on one of Guthrie's ass hairs. When recently questioned about his thoughts on Guthrie, John claimed he often wakes up in night sweats knowing he cant play with as much feel. He also mentioned that he often masturbates to Guthrie's command of the fretboard.
sirus1987 7 months ago
@sirus1987 No, I've already proven Frusciante is better than Guthrie Govan, so you've lost. Govan even admitted he's not as good.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1: Try imagining Frusciante leaving the minor pentatonic scaled. Hurts the ears.
psychoticparaplegic 7 months ago
@psychoticparaplegic No, he does great when he strays away from the minor pentatonic. Dave, however, fails whenever he tries to.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1: Dave uses the minor. Also, Dave's about rhythm and vocals, not soloing.
Upload some of your playing to prove your savviness.
psychoticparaplegic 7 months ago
@psychoticparaplegic John is also about rhythm and vocals, and he does both better than Dave, so John wins.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 You've used incorrect grammar my friend. In one of your earlier posts, you didn't use a predicate. You only said, "You mad". Art thou familiar with the word predicate? Si no, búscalo.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 No, that's a commonly used phrase, quoting Camron. Also, you improperly used a comma in that message.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 It's there for you. Just open your eyes.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 I looked and you're wrong, as usual.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Just so you know, I've been quoting what you've been telling other people. Quit being so lazy. You know if you scroll down the comments you will find it. It's not my problem you're so lazy.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 Proof you've just been quoting me?
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 To quote somebody from earlier, "Not my problem."
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 How isn't it your problem?
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 You used that as proof earlier. You just proved yourself wrong. Thank you.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 No, I didn't. Prove I did.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 To quote from somebody earlier, "My expert intelligence proves it."
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 That's not proof.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 You said the grammar of my quote was wrong. The quote is what James said. Dave wrote most of the song. Kirk changed the solo and James the lyrics.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 Proof?
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Are you sane? Have you been taught proper grammar? Neither of us have been making grammar mistakes. You have done nothing to prove me wrong. You couldn't even refute my proof. You just went off topic saying that my quote didn't have correct grammar. I have news for you. That was a direct quote from James Hetfield. You're basically saying he uses bad grammar. Any sane person would say that you've lost in every argument in this page. Here is all your proof:
1. Metallica is awesome.
2.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 So your logic is that James said exactly what I said. You're not very intelligent, are you? That's pretty clear.
I never said James uses bad grammar. Prove that I did.
Nope, I've used more than that for proof. More logical fallacies, please. =)
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 What lack of grammar knowledge are you talking about? Are you talking about grammar only used in the French parts of Canada? French uses different grammar rules than English. I like how you care more about grammar than music. It seems to me that you're only grasping at straws to make it look like you're proving a point. I know grammar quite well. It appears you are the one lacking grammar skills my loony friend.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 Nope, I'm not from French Canada. You're just poor at using proper English. You're just mad because I've proven you wrong on music and I'm also more intelligent in English.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1
1. I used the song title Mechanix.
2. I used the song title The Four Horsemen.
3. I don't change quotes. Original quotes have more power than changed quotes.
Next you'll be saying Raven ripped off of Metallica.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 And thanks for proving your lack of grammar knowledge.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 You're funny. I like you. Will you please point out my grammar mistakes for me? Do Canadiens have different grammar than people that live in the US of A? I know this is off topic, but have you seen the New Metallica inspired by Old Metallica video?
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 You aren't putting song titles in quotes.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
All I did was paste a direct quote from James Hetfield. Look again at the quotation marks. Man, you really must be stupid to not realize that quotation marks usually are used when people quote something. Have you ever taken an English class before, or is your native language French? You give Canada and Metallica a bad name.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 Aren't you the one who always makes grammar mistakes?
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Since you're dumber than you seem with your 1.9 GPA I'll just give you the information that's there because I'm a nice guy and you're a lazy slacker. Here is what James said: "Dave brought that song over from one of his other bands; back then it was called "The Mechanix". After he left Metallica, we kind of fixed the song up - the lyrics he used were pretty silly."
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 Okay? You're still saying that they didn't add the bridge and solo, so you're wrong.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Because you know that Dave wrote most of The Four Horsemen. All Metallica did was change the lyrics.
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 Not really, since they also added the bridge and a completely different solo.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
pat2595 7 months ago
@pat2595 I'm not even going to try and type that crap into my browser.
MoonMoney1 7 months ago
@MoonMoney1 An example here is The Four Horsemen. Check out this link. If you can't click on it, copy it and paste it. The information here is pretty accurate and easy to find. Look at what James says.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 I don't see any link.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Neither Metallica nor Megadeth sues because it would be hard either way to prove who ripped the other one off.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 In Dave's case, he doesn't have legal ownership of the songs he got writing credit on, because the songs belong to Metallica and their label. So Dave can't say Metallica stole his music.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 That's right because kicking dogs is classy. By the way, if Megadeth rips off of Metallica, why doesn't Metallica sue Megadeth?
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 Because Metallica is classy and doesn't ride on Megadeth's coattails to be successful. Megadeth can't say that, however.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 You've done nothing but insult me and Megadeth. Metallica wouldn't respect you for that. Metallica respects Megadeth and Mustaine. The members of Metallica have publicly said they like a lot of songs by Megadeth. If you think that Megadeth plays nothing but crap, you're saying Metallica has bad taste in music. That just makes you look like a fool who doesn't know what you are even talking about. Those aren't opinions. Those are facts.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 Not really. Metallica is just being humble. They've always been a classier band than Megadeth.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 All right, as much fun as I've had debating with you, it is time for me to move on. This argument shall end in a draw because you didn't prove me wrong and I said that I liked Metallica better anyways.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 Nope, I've won since I've proven myself right.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Keep telling yourself that. :D
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 It's true. :D
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
What you think intelligence is is just some opinions. You haven't proved a thing.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 No, I've used facts and logic to prove myself right.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
Lol this isnt even close
Sucramesen 8 months ago
@Sucramesen Yes it is. You're apparently deaf.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
Yeah you can say that but you can't prove it at all. I was asking a question than taking a guess at the answer. I was unsure whether or not my guess was correct, so I put a question mark around that because I was asking if that was the right answer to my original question? Don't you know how to infer anything at all?
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 It's still not a complete sentence, so you clearly fail at English.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Have you ever taken an English class before? I bet you're not even a native speaker. Just because you think you are smart doesn't mean you are or should pretend that you know something. What was your high school GPA? 1.90?
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 No, I'm very smart. You're just mad because I've been owning you in all these debates.
By the way, the last sentence should be "What was your high school GPA, 1.90?" since just saying 1.90 is not a complete sentence. And my GPA was 4.0, so you lose again. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 You're stupid. You only write out words for numbers one to ten. Any number after ten or below 1 you are supposed to write as a numeral. Once again your proof is opinionated. Look up fact and opinion in the dictionary. And whoever said we need to stop fighting who was better between the two bands is right. Face reality. They're both good bands whether you say so or not. To disagree is to disrespect Metallica's genre, especially when you said you would listen to that crap rap.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 No, that's not the rule for writing numerals. In the case I pointed out, he should have written it out the number rather than using the numeral, so you're wrong. It's also funny that you say what you think the rule is (which is wrong) then go against the rule in the same sentence.
Actually, only one of these bands is good, and that's Metallica.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@thecravenator42069 No, I never grow out of good music. By the way, you're supposed to write out "twelve" in that sentence, rather than using the numeral.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
This isn't a proof. Both Metallica and Megadeth kick S.
BLAGBLUMBLAGBORM 8 months ago
@BLAGBLUMBLAGBORM Yes it's proof. Just Metallica is great. Megadeth, on the other hand, is horrible.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
I wish people would stop this Metallica vs Megadeth Bullshit........Its very fuckin sickening
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 Yeah, it's obvious Metallica is better.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Shut the fuck up. I was not talking to you. Speak when spoken to, bitch.
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 You mad because you know I'm right.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 I like Metallica better so i already thought Metallica was better but i didnt need to fuckin hear YOU say it so shut the fuck up. I wasnt even talking to you i just commenting on how you stupid people are. Your little fucking comment just proved me right bitch
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 No, you've actually proven me right, since I've proven Metallica is better than Megadeth.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 I honestly dont give a fuck. About YOU or your little fuckin "proof". Dont fuck with me, woman.
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 Or what?
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Youll see.
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 lol
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 Go ahead and "lol". Just like i "lol'd" on that funny ass video about you.
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@PetrusKilrochovich73 Okay. lol.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 How can you possibly say that it's fact when other people have completely denied it? I have a few questions for you? What two colors make up green? Which of the three colors (including green and the two primary colors that make green when mixed) is the prettiest color?
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 That's because the other people are stupid and know nothing about music.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 I'm not saying Metallica's not, but Justin Bieber is better than Megadeth, right. I know your OPINION is an OPINION because it's debatable because you debated with like two other people in this video. Game over. I win, you lose, no contest.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 No, it's actually a fact that Metalica is better than Megadeth, so you've lost.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
Metallica is a better band because it's debatable. Don't say it's not debatable because you've been debating with others.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 Metallica is factually a better band.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
That's fine you think that, but would you rather listen to Megadeth, or what people call the best songs ever, that rap crap?
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 Rap.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@moonmoney1 Do you know the difference between fact and opinion? The difference is opinions are debatable whereas facts are undebatable. My opinion is Megadeth is as good as Metallica but I like Metallica more. Nobody sucks in either band. That is my opinion because it is debatable.
pat2595 8 months ago
@pat2595 No, it's a fact that Metallica is better than Megadeth.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Nah, AIC kicks metallicas ass. Metallica is a bunch of old guys with guitars trying to act cool while AIC wen Layne Staley was with them had the vocals that Fagellica could NEVER have pluse Fagellicas guitarist sucks. He even had his girlfriend banged by Dave Mustaine. Besides I'm pretty sure Kirk turned gay so ya......Metallica= fat old men trying to act young and AIC= one of the most talented bands of all time. Well I'm going to bed. I win, your suckass stupid comments held no wat
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 No, AIC's vocals have always been pretty bad, not to mention the awful instrumentation in their music. Metallica is much better.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1 Kirk cant play guitar to save his life, and james cant sing worth a damn either.
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 No, that would be Dave for both.
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Ok, well Alice In Chains pounds both of them soooo. AIC wins.
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 No, Alice In Chains actually sucks pretty badly, so Metallica and I still win. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 What the fuck are you too people talking about?
PetrusKilrochovich73 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Lol you crack me up. I won. :). You made NO facts, just opinions. Obviously I win!
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 Nope, I've used facts, while you've used logical fallacies and lies, so I've won. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MadMoney1
Nope, it's the other way around and I'll prove it: you keep bringing it up, so that obviously means you are upset about me owning you in this debate :)
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 Nope, that's just another logical fallacy by you, which further proves I've won. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 Sorry my friend, but you have lost. Megadeth is a terrible band, and Mustaine is a very overrated guitarist. Metallica kicked him out because he sucked. :)
UNKNOWN18495 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Ya those weren't facts but I understand that you are upset about losing your debate :). So I'll add YOU to MY list :). By the way. John Frusciante SUCKS :).
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 You're just mad because I owned you in this debate. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Ah but you wished you would own a fine musical specimen like me :D too bad, I'm already owned. Lol. By the way, wat you called facts were just opinions, I hope you know. I am still the victor :)
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 Nope, I used nothing but facts. You're just mad because I owned you again. I'll add you to the list. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Nope, you have just been using Mascaraca fanboy biased opinions NOT facts so don't get the two mixed up cuz you'll look even more foolish, I win. :) you have been a great debator but now I must debate with others. All I need to do is find a Nirvana vs Alice In Chains and whoever debates with me there will be my next target! So long! \m/
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 Nope, I've been using facts to prove myself right, so I've won. You're just mad because I keep owning you. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Lol ya right, keep dreaming! It's more like the other way around because I have used actual facts and you just use opinions and call them facts. You have nothing else relevant to say! Lol. You have now been defeated. I THINK I would know about metal cuz I have listened to nothing but metal my whole life. I have defeated your debate MoonMoney1 :) because of your incompetence and your lack of knowledge of metal, I win :).
MMMEEEGGGAAADDDEEETTTHHH!!!! \m/
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago
@ThatOneGuy010 Nope, I've used facts, while you've used nothing but lies and logical fallacies. That means I've won. =)
MoonMoney1 8 months ago
@MoonMoney1
Keep at it, lady cuz I'm owning in this debate. You have run out of "facts" lol plus u know I'll always prove you wrong!
ThatOneGuy010 8 months ago