Indonesian Pres & Pres Bush Meeting 2006/11/20

[irismelho]

What do I think? It was Okay !! why? because now there are around 2o0 Indonesian students got scholarship from Fulbright Presidential Program. And it was started from this meeting. Rp.6M is nothing compared to the amount for the scholarship that may more than Rp.100M.

[cimed8085]

I never thought he has such good English skills. I'm proud to have him as my president...

[arodcolo]

Hello "RYHEEN" mana lagi dong DEBAT-nya KOK NORAK SIH pake nge-BLOCKING account orang segala, khususnya punya si ANU itu, soalnye SERU BANGET NIH, bagus tuk ngasah otak!!!

[kerrenz]

udahlah selama ini ga ada yang lebih bagus dr pd SBY..

Ni berdasarkan data dan reealitalo bkn h omongan belaka

[asrafulalam1945]

Kritik yg konstruktif justru harus karena memberikan solusi kpd permasalahan yg ada secara komprehensif & berkesinambungan, itulah dinamika suatu kehidupan berbangsa & bernegara yg maju & sehat supaya tdk terjadi penyelewengan kekuasaan, iblis pun tahu kalo TUHAN yg turun tangan semuanya pasti beres, percuma banyak melakukan hal kecil di bawah kalo pemimpin di atasnya tdk memberi teladan yg benar,karena maju tdknya suatu negara itu tergantung dari kualitas & visi pemimpin itu sendiri, gitu ganti

[ryheen]

kritik yg konstruksif, MAKSUD LOEH... ?? perasaan lu kagak mengkritik, tp menghujat, tipe2 pemimpin "salah satu partai", lu ga beda ma dia asbun, bsnya cm menghujat... dr tata bhs lu,YOU TRY TO BE SMART... kasiaaaannnnnn deh loe...lol..lol..lol..

[asrafulalam1945]

Ketimbang elo impoten nalar, bisanya cuma buang kotoran & nyelonong ke suatu diskusi tanpa tahu arah juntrungan ceritanya ke mana alias CIPOA tok, IT'S BETTER TRY TO BE SMART THAN IGNORANT AT ALL, yach 100 - dech!!!!!!!

[ryheen]

WALAH, masak lu kagak ngarti seh MENGKRITIK pake OTAK ma MENGHUJAT pake OTOT... sekolah lg gehh, TRY TO BE SMART FINE, BUT WITH BRAIN OK, NOT SHOUTING VERY RUDE LIKE THAT. WAKE UP LITTLE BOY that's what it called such an IGNORANT... lol..lol...

[asrafulalam1945]

Your voice speaks volumes about YOU SILLY, who love to make statements that contradict themselves just avenue for another escape to deny the matter or fact. Such your ignorant & narrow minded then about time to open your eyes & upgrade your IQ, so you can reply someone's argument either to refute or ask to cease it with a comprehensive argumentation also by underlying systematic error in someone's argument, so others can have some thoughts to participate, not just a BLATANT CHEAP SHOT !!!!!!!

[ryheen]

PLEASE DON'T TALK ABOUT " IGNORANT AND NARROW MINDED ", lol..lol..lol....lol... NGAKAK AKYU....!!!!!!

[asrafulalam1945]

Why...??? Because, It expressed a PIECE of who YOU REALLY are!!! So, don't be shy by L.O.L at NOT FUNNY THINGS just to covered-up that yourself LOST still. Please, SUCK the TRUTH & be MATURE, ... WHAT A CLICHE...!!!!

[ryheen]

OHH YEAHH, REALLY!! DONT BE TOO SMART!! You dont even know what does it mean NARROW MINDED. So STOP talking this SHIT here. Better re-read your comments, BUT IF YOU STILL HAVENT REALIZED, DONT WORRY I UNDERSTAND THAT!!SHAME ON YOU!! lollollol..lol

[asrafulalam1945]

Don't TWIST just to have a TWIST. Any twists,double crosses,etc,have to have some VALID REASON other than"Oh,DAMN! I need to have a clever twist!"ALL your PURPOSE just to AVOID discussing the subject proven by all your recorded comments which so fiercely defend your only one true leader SBY even there are many his broken promises already affect most people lives deeply. SO GET A LIFE by unlocking your mind & take your "HORSE" eye glasses off IF YOU wish to see the REALITY.HOW DUMB YOU ARE!!!!

[ryheen]

ur brain already stuck on it(thats the problem).Indo already FUCKED UP since Soeharto as a President til he finished&presidents after him all just SHIT,except when SBY start tday Ill say LITTLE CHANGE in Indo.But little is better than worst.The opinions coming up TRY TO PUT HIM DOWN are poor people increases,expensive foods,unemployed.BUT HEY,this's not only in Indo,these are general problems all over the world&Indo is 3rd world country,WHATS UR EXPECTATIONS 4 HIS 5YEARS TERM LEADERSHIP?????

[asrafulalam1945]

Finally after some ENLIGHTENMENT, this discussion back on the track for the first time! & lets move on. Its just a bogus excuse to say those poor people increases, expensive foods, unemployment are OPINION INSTEAD OF FACT, Tell me what else from your point of view a person should use information as valid data to make an argument? & it seems CHILDISH by blaming others rather than accepting responsibility for the failures. U think only SBY can use this excuses & OTHERS cant?

to be continue....

[ryheen]

Before I start my point of view, you still not answer my question. WHATS UR EXPECTATIONS 4 HIS 5YEARS TERM LEADERSHIP?

[asrafulalam1945]

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IF the answer NO, What makes them different? IF YES, it should make everybody NOTHING but SHIT THEN! Double standards dont work anymore. U said, today there is LITTLE CHANGE, like what? Can you explain it? OF COURSE anybody can claim SOME CHANGES on REPORTS, but is it true on reality? As simple ex: Now much & much more ordinary people struggle to make ends meet, lead to hunger & surge poverty then make a gap between the have & the have-not really even bigger ever.

to be continue....

[asrafulalam1945]

Continued-2

First & foremost, its a matter of INTEGRITY not IMAGE, I hope U knew all the differences, right?. About EXPECTATION, personally I wish SBY will lose his reelection presidential bid in next July coming month, because Im fed up with what already happened, especially to see how messy the recent legislature's election carried out & it is the worst since the era reform, can U imagine that? How come? Are these just a coincidence?

to be continue................

[ryheen]

Continue 2 answer:INTEGRITY not IMAGE?Sorry,4 me no sense! As you know, SBY doesnt have REALLY FRIEND in Politic. Those people who made meeting,left&right,up&down especially called them self TU,theyr friends coz theyve same need.THIS Election THE WORST,it also came out from THOSE PEOPLE who READY TO WIN BUT NOT READY TO LOOSE!!Oh well,u may wish SBY will lose,if there is a better candidate,WHY NOT,but I DOUBT,Its easy to see that!Especially if you thinking abt 1 of Those GROUP

[asrafulalam1945]

Continued- End

Unfortunately not, because Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely and could be back to the same old direction again, lets make sure it doesn't happen, unless we are fine so easily being DECEIVED!!!

The DANGER for STUCK TOO MUCH on some one's charisma & become victim this CULT OF PERSONALITY is difficult to contradict, argue with, or stand up to, especially for the one who less sure of themselves, less confident or determined.

C' MON BE A REAL PERSON!!!!

[greenpilot777]

inilah salah satu susah negara kita susah berkembang kearah yang lebih baik. jgn melihat persoalan secara parsial, lihatlah persoalan secara utuh.

kalau kita harapkan dgn adanya seorang pemimpin maka dia sanggup membenahi negara dalam waktu 5 tahun, lain kali anda pilih Tuhan saja sbg presiden RI. Lakukan hal kecil apapun yang bisa kalian lakukan untuk negara, berhentilah omong kosong dan selalu melihat kesalahan orang lain secara tidak objektif.

terima kasih.

[herman1287]

SETUJUU BUNGG!

[hohobrebes]

mau sby mau sapa keh yang jdi presiden nya lo ngurusin lapindo ga bakalan kelar ga bakalan bisa yang penting bravoooo SBY aku selalu mendukungmu persetan ma yag meng kritik lo apa lo bisa memimpin negara jangan asal nuding lo mang lo sanggup benerin tuh indonesiaaaa..hidup SBY.....

[asrafulalam1945]

Yg begini nih, contoh orang yg tong kosong nyaring bunyinya, ngomong belepotan tapi sok intelek,dasar memang manusia kardus tetap aza sampah,udah bau busuk ehh malah koar-koar lagi, antara pernyataan yg satu dan lainnya saling bertentangan (tidak konsisten) spt "mau SBY ato sapa keh tapi bravooo SBY", apaan tuh??? Tobat-tobat, pantasen Indonesia semakin hancur lebur berantakan krn diperparah dgn munculnya tipe-tipe selevel hohobrebes yg idiot & bernalar sesat menjadi asal-asalan mendukung!!!!!

[herman1287]

iyaa dehh yang terdidikkk...bagi2 dong ilmunya ama kita yang ngomongnya belepotan tapi sok intelek wkwkwkw. =)

[frankdanny1000]

memang perlu meningkatkan diri sendiri,tanpa harus menyalahkan orang lain

[ngentottotngen]

Liat Wajah bush, Nertawain SBY terus... dasar setan..!!!

[asrafulalam1945]

Terang aje si Bush cengengesan karena ora ngertos, ini presiden (pak SBY) udah baca teks ngomongnya kagak keruan pula, bingunglah kite pade...., makanya pak SBY urus tuch badan jaga performance jangan keasyikan makan tidur enak doang di istana, dulu sebelum jd presiden masih fit & ok banget, contoh donk si Bush dan para pemimpin negara maju lainnya khan kren-kren, tlg koreksi diri sendiri dulu udah pantas belon baru nilai orang, kalo kaga bisa bhs inggris jangan maksain, dasar norak !!!!

[herman1287]

CONTOH SI BUSHH????? lo mau indo jadi bankrut wkwkwk....SBY juga manusia ga usah lah kita jahat banget...

"honor those whom honor is due"

=)

[asrafulalam1945]

Buka mata & telinga loe lebar-lebar,lihatlah rakyat miskin makin byk,pesta phk di mana-mana, BBM mahal, KKN merajalela, ekonomi amburadul, inflasi tinggi, rupiah nyungsep, daya beli lemah, dll. Fakta, Indonesia itu bangkrutnya sudah terlalu parah malah hancur lebur, karena ulah pemimpin yg CIPOA haus kekuasaan tok, artinya antara pernyataan & kenyataan jauh berbeda, jd jgn bawa-bawa Amerika (si Bush) apa hubungannya??? Itu mah lempar dosa sembunyi diri alias munafik, so say "IT IS WHAT IT IS"

[asrafulalam1945]

Buka mata & telinga loe lebar-lebar,lihatlah rakyat miskin makin byk,pesta phk di mana-mana, BBM mahal, KKN merajalela, ekonomi amburadul, inflasi tinggi, rupiah nyungsep, daya beli lemah, dll. Fakta, Indonesia itu bangkrutnya sudah terlalu parah malah hancur lebur, karena ulah pemimpin yg CIPOA haus kekuasaan tok, artinya antara pernyataan & kenyataan jauh berbeda, jd jgn bawa-bawa Amerika (si Bush) apa hubungannya??? Itu mah lempar dosa sembunyi diri alias munafik, so say "IT IS WHAT IT IS"

[hohobrebes]

Pikir diri sendiri dulu sblm mengkritik orang,km jg blm tentu sebaik sby klo km jd pemimpin negara ky sby(misalnya),jd pemimpin ga mudah spt yg dibayangkan(asrafualam1945),ak­u seorang tki(korea),aku rasa bukan hanya pemimpin yg mempengaruhi negara,tapi semuanya dari kita RI,budayakan kerja keras.Kyk:korea,jepang,cina

[asrafulalam1945]

Tolong simak dulu alur cerita suatu tulisan baru kasih komen biar nyambung, jgn asal nyemprot (tanpa sebab akibat) sembarangan sehingga membingungkan. Kritik sesuai fakta itu konstruktif, hohobrebes klaim bahwa SBY itu baik, di mana baiknya?? kalo rakyat makin melarat & kian miskin spt rkyt korban lapindo yg tdk jelas penyelesaiannya, SBY bisanya marah & marah melulu, kekanak-kanakkan cuma sebatas sandiwara.Pmpn hrs jd panutan bg rkyt bukan sebaliknya, justru krn susalah tdk semua org jd pmpn!!

[ngentottotngen]

si bangsat bush, nertawain SBY. dasar SETAN..!!!

[asrafulalam1945]

Terang aje si Bush cengengesan karena ora ngertos, ini presiden (pak SBY) udah baca teks ngomongnya kagak keruan pula, bingunglah kite pade...., makanya pak SBY urus tuch badan jaga performance jangan keasyikan makan tidur enak doang di istana, dulu sebelum jd presiden masih fit & ok banget, contoh donk si Bush dan para pemimpin negara maju lainnya khan kren-kren, tlg koreksi diri sendiri dulu udah pantas belon baru nilai orang, kalo kaga bisa bhs inggris jangan maksain, dasar norak !!!!