I don't believe that there is a god in the same way that I don't believe in a unicorn or a pipe smoking bunny rabbit. I have no evidence of absence, as that is impossible. I have no evidence of existence, thus giving no credence to the theory of god(s).
You total dummy - you broke a primary rule of logic - it is not up to me to DISprove anything - it is up to you to PROVE God - obviously you are not used to thinking logically or using reason.
I actually saw a pipe smoking bunny rabbit once, i was in the forest walking around and there it was. i couldn't believe it... I was on shrooms at the time though. (and thus religion was born)
@hardcase678 What "guy" are you referring to, exactly? Not the creepy one I hope. ( Excluding MJ )
Funny coincidence, by the way. The day before you posted this comment I decided to watch the video clip of You Rock My World since years. Must be God playing a prank. LOLOMGWTF!
Its not about disproving something, we cant disprove a lot of things. The burden of proof lays on the individual claiming something exists, if they have no proof, I've no reason to believe
@XrayDL The video doesn't really deal with science v.s. faith. It deals with a logical falacy and with the who has the burden of proof. The guy who i'm parodying in the video says Atheist cannot disprove God. I point out we cannot disprove any claim of a higher power, whether it's claiming it was God or a smoking rabbit that is responsible for our existence. ( cont )
... (cont.) to swear it, but that does not mean it happened in actuality. Faith and Science have thier own places, and each are suited to work best inside thier own realm of what they pertain to. Basically... You believe in God... Ok... and?
"We" being either the individual or us as a species. Science just answers "How does it work..." And just believing in verifiable concepts like Quantum Mechanics does not exclude the possibility of a creator. But, it's a possibility. A two-thousand year old book proves nothing. I could write a book about how I am dark lord master of the universe... Would anyone believe that in the future? I could say 500 people watched me electrocute a herd of sheep with lightning from my ass, and get those...
Someone said this clip is just clever satire, but in the event it is not... Your arguement is fundamentally flawed. Just because someone (and I am not an Athiest) cannot disprove the fictional bunny rabbit does not validate a claim of God. I think you're all retarded. The classical definition of God is perfectly compatible with science, and science is compatible with faith. They answer to completely different questions. A faith is the answer to "Why are we here..."
@XrayDL Don't call people retarded because they think differently to you.The question 'why are we here' may well be the question every faith is working to(and maybe does) answer but the point here, is how that somehow makes the object of the faith real, or more likely. From a neutral position I'd say faith reflects a human being's ability to stack information so that the inference garnered preserves their optimism.This theory explains why we have false prophets and religions that still succeeds.
how can six small bunnies pull the Godess chariot around the world in one night so she can deliver candy to all children on Easter day. The bunnies need a toke or two to get them flying of course.
By the way, @PDzero, scientific fact is not proven by what isn't, but by what is. Me not being able to disprove the existence of a fictional character does not, in itself, prove your god exists. No scientific law has ever been accepted due to overwhelming lack of evidence. What an absurd, asinine question.
Good God, you theists are so egotistical. "I'm important and an all-powerful being cares about me!"
No, you're not, and they don't. You're just one more insignificant creature on one more insignificant planet in one more insignificant galaxy in one perhaps significant universe. I hope you prepare yourselves for the oblivion that is death, because there is no fantasy world where all your hopes and dreams come true. Your carbon gets recycled and that's the end of your story.
I find it entertaining when people consider this a good argument. You can not prove that this rabbit exists, but neither can you prove the non-existance of any mythological creature ever invented! Therefore God should be taken as seriously as this pipe smoking Bunny-Rabbit. And for the claim that God desinged everything I would say that such claims were to some point understandable when people wrote the Bible, but these claims should not be taken seriously in todays modern world.
This whole thing about Spaghetti Monster, God, Allah, more bullshit, is so stupid. Look, you people need to either get rid of all these ideas or keep them to your fucking self. We are all humans, fighting like 5 year old children. Fighting is what a child does. But we call it war when an adult does it. It's all the same idiots. Mature up.
It could exist but the odds of it actually existing are very low. Here is what I think how we came to be, in order for us to exist something infinite has to create us. Let's call it Consciousness. But, why do you theists believe this Consciousness is there to protect you in some way? Is it not clear that IT set natural laws for a reason? How about, let's live by those rules and not made up bullsh*t that is always prone to fraud and dishonesty. Why would IT give free will to just take it away?
The word " evidence " is the most hated among religious nuts. They have none, it is all bullshit they come up with. Religious nut is as much of an atheist as it is any other atheist. If you believe in Jesus than you are atheist respect to all the other gods. Religion is a child abuse that should be punished. It creates emotionally retarded people.
@alexsdjtube What evidence is missing( not here) that would be here in your mind, in a God created universe and how are you qualified to know? LOL What would constitute evidence? just like in court of law there are parameters for what constitutes evidence and they lawyers and judge both know how that is defined, so they are QUALIFIED to dismiss "alleged evidence" My question to you atheist is what exactly would be evidence in a God created universe? LOL
@carlindelco It's difficult to answer but one thing I'd be sure of is if god has intervened and wanted us to know, we would know. Too much goes against this idea, starting with there being many successful religions that were obviously made up. To be a theist you believe god HAS left us evidence of her existence AND that it's indistinguishable by the majority from frauds. Surely, an immediate deal breaker to any level headed person. The she-god angle goes to expose the human fingerprints all over
@JeffStDeuce RE:"It's difficult to answer" LOL it's the first questions you should have asked and answered! He ahs intervened, read passages in the Bible.. like Moses for starters. You have a hollywood idea on how God must intervene, not how he does. OMG He has.. (see:Entire Universe) You have completely dodged the question by asserting a vague and extremely subjective opinion rather that stating something very specific in the construct. "she God" put the pipe down and try again ok ..
@carlindelco People believe in all kinds of gods on all kinds of 'evidence'. My answer then: My 'hollywood' idea is that god provide us with good evidence of supernatural force or power, and 'good' evidence for that(to me, maybe not you) cannot be in the form of an ancient document. More clearly, good evidence that god has revealed himself and wants us to know a specific message, should, at the very least, be distinct from frauds. Please clarify which part is 'extremely subjective'.
@JeffStDeuce Evidence is all around, it just requires some intelligence to recognize intelligence. Again you ask for evidence?? What is missing from this construct that you "believe" should be here and how are you qualified to say so. Simple question.. but yet NO atheist has been able to answer.. I'm sure you googled to search for one. Do you know the difference between knowing and faith? Answer the question I've asked you 5 times already..
@carlindelco We're discussing this question are we not? How am I qualified? What is this qualification? Do you have them? Your suggestion of abundant evidence 'all around' is surprisingly bold and suspiciously vague. Please elaborate. If u think I didnt answer from a theist position(which Im quite sure is you?) you need to re-read my last 2 replies, I made my evidence requirements clear. If you're a deist, we certainly could admit different types of evidence,I'll list some that would compel me..
@carlindelco -An example of irreducible complexity
-Rabbits in the precambrian i.e any fossil example that chronologically contradicts the tree of life
-Evidence that the body of observable physical laws have been breached
-Evidence of non-material existence and life
-And why not some of standard holy book currency, the dead being raised,acension to heaven,flying white horses.I could go on.If well demonstrated and proved not fraudulent any and all would be good evidence by my personal standard
@carlindelco If you want to have an intellectual conversation please show more class.Now,first you couldnt understand what I'd said and finally asked me again(i think)to answer it(?)If you didnt understand at least my second post it seems you're unaware of the arguments that form your own position.You didnt elaborate on your 'evidence all around' except for making a statement about what god could and has done and then called it a 'scientific reason'(lol).You're not a scientist are you?more comin
@carlindelco 2 replies ago you said my opinion was 'extremely subjective'. You never did point out what was extremely subjective and how? So far you've named one piece of 'evidence' which turned out to be a scientific minority opinion attached to a theological statement about god, and what god does. If we are to progress in this dialogue you need to understand that what you are classing as evidence is nonsense to most people...
@carlindelco This is important when thinking about your 'what should be here that is not'? We have a different standard of 'convincing', you havnt given much of an insight into your standards. I gave you a list of what defined mine, and you said you didnt understand what it said.Well sorry, but most people wouldnt get lost in what i'd written and I dont know how to water it down again so read up on the words you dont understand rather than telling me again(quite pathetically)that I didnt answer.
@carlindelco In fact why not tell me the specific sentences you don't understand and I'll be happy to extrapolate it's meaning. But if you want to keep a discussion you must produce something of substance either detailed information for a theist perspective or a SPECIFIC rebuttal of what I've said. If you just come back with more taunts and insistence I've 'avoided' your really hard question, I wont be replying
@JeffStDeuce Look kid you have way to much time on your hands.. I asked 1 simple in order to start a ligitimate and honest debate and you failed to answer. therefore we can not continue to discuss this on your terms, where you sit there with arms folded denying anything that is presented as evidence as such, while NOT offering one single counter offer, or any clue on what should be here in terms of forensic evidence of God, that YOU believe is not here. I win,,thanks
@carlindelco '..denying anything that is presented as evidence as such' Haha.Does 'as such' mean you presented me with evidence in your head and I 'denied' it? What did I deny? I'm struggling to recall any of this 'evidence presented'.The only thing I remember was when you said 'only god can create genetic information'! Is this the 'evidence' your talking about? I didnt 'deny' anything,unless we've miscommunicated I'm at a loss as Im unaware of any other 'evidence' you presented,please remind me
@JeffStDeuce here is evidence. ONLY intelligence can create information, DNA IS information. Not only that , it is created, transmitted , received and then implemented. Now,,tel me atheist since I already KNOW tat you are going to deny that, YOU then have to offer a an example of what WOULD be evidence of God. Like in court room, attorney KNOW what is evidence and then find and present it. You are acting like a judge dismissing it all, while NOT explaining what would be evidence U FAIL too easy!
@carlindelco I'll be more specific for you. Evidence to you seems to be things you(and we all) dont fully understand, and almost anything unknown or going unanswered is to you evidence of god. Like say 'this is too complex to exist naturally or randomly... there must be a much more complex being and this is its creation' (problematic) Anyway, you say 'dont dismiss, you must..' if I reject your submissions. Ok, obviously I have done that and u replied. I will discuss it in a different way too tho
@carlindelco You might not like this but i dont think you can say its unfair or close minded.To me it seems obvious that if god WANTED us to know he is creator and so left evidence of it, the evidence would be something we'd all agree on. Actually the more i think about it the word 'agree' seems to light. It would be indisputable if god actually WANTED us to know.To me,on hearing the story of god's messnger or son(or whatever way it's received)everyone would immediately know it had to be true...
@carlindelco ..It would have to be true because the content would be something unique and 'divine'. Eg. Im saying, it shouldnt be possible for someone to hear the gospel of Jesus and see it as a repugnant human sacrifice(as some do)if it was really god's most significant message to us. A message from god would not need to be defended as genuine. If one(god) is genuine, god knew we wouldnt agree on the true content and that not everyone even gets to hear the story. Thats the start of the problems
@carlindelco It worth just closing with the(to me obvious) infernece that religions being made by man and not inspired by god explains all these things. Of course we know that all but a max of one is, precisely, man made. Of course(a deist might say) it's possible god is real but didnt want to 'contact' us but somehow did 'leave' evidence that there was a creator. It seems even more far fetched to me.
@JeffStDeuce and RE"only god can create genetic information" Remember men SAYING?? can read, where did I say that , you put it in quote like it was verbatim ( that means : In exactly the same words as were used originally I didn't..... You lose...just admit it. ALL of you are intellectually dishonest.
@carlindelco I apologise for my misquote, but you do believe it was god right? You're exact words 'only intelligence..' The thrust of your arguments are picking at my phrasing. Grow up and act like an man, I didnt misrepresent you at all so it's irrelevent childish shit slinging. Now, Im acting like a judge dismissing 'it all'. It all would be the mountain of evidence I've disqualified? This is obviously nonsense. I rejected one piece of 'evidence' because......
@carlindelco Your 'evidence'has some problems. Explaining the origin of an unusual(or seemingly unnatural) complexity with 'a more complex being' is not to explain anything as you create the same question you seek to solve. Basic logic Im sure you will grasp. The conclusion that it was god is also suspiciously automatic. If you want to convince us Id want you to demonstrate how that connection is made, Im sure a court would too.
@carlindelco You insist 'only intelligence' can create information dont you mean god? Could there be intelligence('information creating') that isnt a god? If so, your automatic jump to 'god did it' seems even more fishy.Why couldnt there be a non-god creator? So, you have a scientific statement which near all biologists would reject, along with a conclusion which speculates what god can, and has done. Can you honestly say you think I should be convinced by this(your only) piece of 'evidence'
lol positives: pipe smoking bunnyrabbit=brilliant. negatives: u look like a fucking weird MJ, im sorry for you. and the PSBR (rabbit) didn't have millions of believers/followers or books handed down through the generations about it. a "Christian God" may not make sense, but a or multiple deities/divine beings does not seem so unreasonable.
difference between atheists and agnostics? atheists are trolls lol.
@PDzero I am Agnostic which means I don't know, but bashing athiest on not being able to prove a pipe smoking bunny rabbit exists is dumb and for one reason, you creationists can't prove that it does exist! Thus showing everyone on th einternet what a moron you are and you didn't take the time to think about how Atheists think and u obviously are too brainwashed in your cult to read a book other than the Bible.
great point. this is THE ONLY thing atheists can`t disprove. you chose to name it pipe smoking bunny rabbit but it has many many names. nice video. keep up the good work.
Your post is so poorly lettered it barely qualifies as jibberish, I'll address what I could relate. NEAR DEATH! Shall I spell out the letters for you? NEARLY dying, isn't dying. There's people who attest to seeing zeus in the sky and I guess you don't subscribe to those beliefs; either they're right, under a misapprehension or they're lying. Choose. But please don't pretend it's evidence and expect us to keep listening. Btw I'm no atheist- you assume without questioning, therein lies your folly.
Darwin would crack a bunny rabbit's head open, look at the brain, conclude that the bunny rabbit does not have the intelligence or opposable thumbs needed to smoke a pipe. He would then flip every theist off and take a short nap.
A smoking monkey is something I couldn't disprove, but screw bunnysmoke.
wow u thinking theres a designer behind our ecosystems just prove how undereducated u r wen it cums to natural selection. and how cum god never gets blamed 4 perfectly designing satan which then (according 2 most of u guys) (not all) in turn created leprosy,hunger,sin,AIDS,bubonic plague, parasites, death, hell, and pain.
it's unsientific that a rabit kan smoke pipe it's little longs would explode.. however if you read the qur'aan you find sientific proofs who were confirmed by scientists (many non-moslims) in the 21 century.. before that the technology wasn't advanced,, who was possible to claim these things in a 1400 year old book? many will say mohammed did (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) but he was unletterd.. so how come?
@jebemticerku Bullshit! Mention ONE scientific proof foretold by the qur'aan! I dare you! Love how you say "confirmed by scientist (many non-moslims)". Moslim scientist is something of a contradiction in terms I would say. If it hadn't been for the west the moslim world would still be in the dark ages materially as well as intellectually.
@jebemticerku Your verses are ambigous and vague and with no predictive or explanatory value, the "science" you mention is wrong and did you know that it was the ancient Greeks that came up with the word and concept of the atmosphere (Greek word..) a thousand years before Mohammed? Must have been divine inspiration. Lets all worship Zeus!
Maybe atmosphere is a greek word i just mentioned however i made a mistake to reffering to atmosphere.. the vers was reffering to the ozone.. my english is not 100% :P
However your reaction is only based on 21:32 what do you say about the mountains..?
an can you proof this about the greeks.. i like to have a source..
@jebemticerku The verse says nothing about protection from the sun's rays, so it is not valid at all to say that this verse predicts Ozone. Besides if an almighty God put the Ozone layer there, it would be pretty incompetent to make it so weak that millions get skin cancer anyway... The notion that a mountain range and its "root" stabilises anything in the sense of preventing earthquakes is simply wrong. The forces which create mountain ranges are the same ones that create earthquakes.
@arnean Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs? [Noble Quran 78:6-7]
Modern earth sciences have proven that mountains have deep roots under the surface of the ground and that these roots can reach several times their elevations above the surface of the ground
And He has set firm mountains in the earth so that it would not shake with you... [Noble Quran 16:15]
Likewise the modern theory of plate tectonics holds that mountains work as stabilizers for the earth.
@DanTheBrahman As i said its a heart thing if God knows your heart you should research before you speak. If you reject the gospel you will be sent to damnation. If you don't have knowledge of heaven hell and all of that stuff in between God is fair and will judge you accordingly. Jesus didn't bring religion he bought himself to have a relationship to know and to love your fellow man its a heart thing. You could be raised in the church all of your life if your hearts not right you wont enter.
@HeroBidd0 " If you reject the gospel you will be sent to damnation. If you don't have knowledge of heaven hell and all of that stuff in between God is fair and will judge you accordingly. "
Your view of hell comes from a clearly biased source. You need more sources than that, to make an informed decision. We are talking eternity here. Satan has to date never delivered up a manifesto. You can't possibly know if you have made the correct decision as you say it "a heart thing" wishful thinking.
@hawklord2001 You have to believe the lord Jesus died on the cross for you. He is the way the truth and the life the only way though heaven is through him. The devil doesn't want you to know that. He is the son of God divine and we're all sinners he went to hell for us. That's how you are saved. If you act like Jesus just exists on Sunday and not any other day then your hearts not in the right place. Its in Phlippians 2:12 /watch?v=kGQPQ2EJVyY and ex satanist confession /watch?v=n3WdTFwk9j4
@HeroBidd0 "You have to believe the lord Jesus died on the cross for you."
Thousands of people have sacrificed themselves over the centuries for humanity. With Christ tho You also have to believe he was divine in which case it was no sacrifice.
I really don't put any stock in what the bible has to say about the afterlife, until one can prove that A) God exists and B) Christ was divine.
@Mattwest1985 Please prove to me evolution is a fact.... and i don't mean macro evolution. Thats why its called the evolutionary THEORY. There is no proof for it no missing link from ape to man or from lizard to bird. You should look up Laurence Tisdall. Come back and try again.
@HeroBidd0 You should look up scientific theory, which is different from philosophical theory. Any god that has ever existed is a philosophical theory. Evolution is a scientific theory that is 2 very different things. You google and Wikipedia to look up the meaning of the terms.
@tkmikkelsen1 I'm not looking to debate a play on words I'm looking for evidence. Dancing around the question is what children do when they don't have logical answers.
@HeroBidd0 evidence is hard. If you believe that there is a god or flying reindeer exist, then I can never prove you wrong, because you will always be able to say that I didn't look in the right place. You on the other have a golden opportunity to prove to be that these things exist, be delivering just one irrefutable evidence that it is so. What this video is about and what you are alluding to is the proving a negative fallacy, look it up.
If I were to make the claim that a Pipe-smoking Bunny existed, the burden of proof would be placed on me. I don't understand why theists dont' get this. If my claim contradicts reason, you will require evidence. You wouldn't accept the claim even if I presented you with 1500 year old stories that have been translated and revisionned to accomodate political powers. You are an intelligent, rational being, you would require proof just I require it to believe your claims.
i love how bible thumpers try to prove atheism wrong by saying we have no evidence when all science and logical thinking is on our side.
fact is when you die your worm bait no heaven no hell,
our brain is a self aware network that gives us consciousness that is confused with a so called spirit.You cant prove me wrong you have no reliable evidence.
Long story short the people who claim God doesn't exist doesn't try to seek him. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
I don't get the point of this video. You can't prove that there is a God or pipe smoking rabbit that controls the world, and the unavailability of proof is what the atheist belief is derived from. So you're turning it into a "Prove it!", "Disprove it!" argument where both sides senselessly banter back and forth? Why can't everyone just let people decide for themselves? It's a personal choice that one shouldn't be pressured into.
Everyone knows that pipes and bunny rabbits already exist so whats the point of trying to disprove them? I guess by saying "The" pipe smoking bunny rabbit you are saying this is a special one that is responsible for creating everything. So arent you just taking a pipe smoking bunny rabbit and giving it the attributes of god?
There were no trees at the time the Pipe Smoking Bunny Rabbit created the universe. He could not of had the smoking pipe if there was no wood. Even if he created a tree, he does not have the knowledge nor the physical attributes to carve a wooden smoking pipe.
you werent trying to see it from a ' atheists ' the difference between atheists and a god squad is atheists look for PROOF ,. or a pipe smoking rabbit - where atheists look around and just know in our hearts and minds that there isnt one
Heh. I love god-botherers. Every time I'm bored I get to laugh at a sample of carbon-based wastage. Language is wasted on these poor folks, but I'm glad they have it for the comedic value. By the way, God, can you buy this guy something to eat...
So we came from nothing (the big bang) then we evolved from distant animal relatives on a planet thats close enough to where we don't freeze far enough away to where we don't burn up. NDE's are just chemical reactions in the brain? really?!? It seems it would take more faith to be an atheist than to ever be a Christian any day
@HeroBidd0 ...have you even listened to a single word I said in the video? Of course it takes more "faith" to be an atheist. The pipe smoking bunny-rabbit's existence is obvious!1!
@mindwis3 Haha! Yeah, this is the only video I ever made covering religion. I would like to do more but there already are so many Atheists active on YouTube doing a better job than I probably could, but I just couldn't help myself making this spoof. Hits the burden of proof argument right on the nail I think.
Oh, and the pipe is responsible for the creation of our universe. As soon as the almighty Bunny, our lord and savior lit his pipe our universe popped into existence!
@liadsman Laymans terms How did order come from chaos? Every design has a desinger. We are the design. I'm not willing to believe that the fine tuning which made life sustainable for us which is on a tipping scale happened by accident. Even if Gravity was 1/10 off we wouldn't be having this conversation. People who are afraid of the truth are willing to believe EVERYTHING WAS CREATED BY NOTHING via universal slipup causing evolution yet no transitional fossils from ape to man have been found...
@HeroBidd0 order and chaos are human terms, and have no meaning whatsoever in the natural world. You could say the galaxies are spinning in total chaos or in complete order - that's just human observation and it's a moot point. In the overall existence of everything that there is or ever will be, given the magnitude of the universe and the possibilities it presents, "slip ups" (as you so put it) have INCREDIBLE consequences from a human perspective. But that's all it is - a human perspective.
And a human perspective is all we have. The religious perspective is incrediblט vain because it puts us humans right in the middle of EVERYTHING. How so? Are you really that selfish and self absorbed that you think the universe cares about you? You are so tiny and meaningless and a universal perspective, so in order to feel better about the fact that there's nothing beyond death, and that you are meaningless - you invent a father figure to watch over you and tell you what to do.
@liadsman sigh... you fail to have evidence to back up your claim like an example theres proof for God and if you knew the complexity of DNA you'd probably want to think twice. You seem like the type who'd have better luck believing the graphic novel story of the Incredible Hulk. Happy lab accdients of random chemicals make you stronger instead of killing you. I know my God is real and if god is real that means his word follows on such beings as the devil. I hope you find relief from his lies =)
@HeroBidd0 I never made any claims. You're the one with fantastic claims (and I do mean to full extent of the word 'fantastic') and it's up to you to back that up without using circular arguments, without asking to prove a negative and without using a definition to define itself. Those are the 3 first and most basic rules of logic. If you can't comply with basic logic, we have nothing to discuss.
Circular arguments - saying god exists because the bible says so, and the bible is right because god wrote it (or inspired someone to write it) is a circular argument.
Asking atheists to prove god doesn't exist is a paradox. You're are never called upon to prove a negative. There's virtually an endless supply of "un-disprovable" fictions out there. Again, that's a moot point.
And Since Neither of us can PROVE god exists, one must ask - on what claims do you base your religion on? A hunch? A sense of enlightenment? An alleged knowledge of DNA?
We used to think flies have 8 legs because a scientists said so. But then someone came and PROVED OTHERWISE and science changed overnight. Science still discovers new phenomena every day and changes its premises when required. Does your religion have that power or does it stand there and rot like a bloated, bronze-age cow?
And that remark about the devil right at the end of your meaningless mouth-fart proves you are no match for the intellect of modern humans. Your mind is a relic, and your ideas will soon perish. Maybe not in the next century, maybe not in my lifetime. But hopefully by the year 2200 (should humans survive that long) the idea of religion will seem as ridiculous as racism, not letting gay couples be together and other dark thoughts of that kind. Logic is winning. Religion is poison.
@liadsman Did i strike a cord? Are you a homosexual? You just can't come to terms with the fact that if God does exist he'll know whats in your heart. No ones perfect and God knows that. Atheists seem to like to be in control of the situation they're not really ever going to be in control of. You just have to decide what you want to do for eternity. So much evidence piles up for God so i come from a logical standpoint. Yet less and less evidence for atheism so you try to argue emotionally..
@HeroBidd0 "Atheists seem to like to be in control of the situation they're not really ever going to be in control of."
Isn't it the opposite? Believers are the ones that claim they have control. Believe in God and you will be guaranteed eternal existence. Atheists claim no such control.
@hawklord2001 Atheist claim to be in control of their own life and destiny created by a universal accident and when it ends theres nothing left. Atheists try to write God out with lies of evolution and other things. Life is just a phenomena that just happened you live for a spark of a second and there is no external force affecting it. Also we don't claim control if you read John 3:16 it states we're not in control he is.
@hawklord2001 Because the reasons claiming God isn't real is more foolish than anything. Evolution isn't proven true but still taught in school. I believe I have a purpose just like everyone else. I believe theres a God who loves me and a devil that wants to make sure i lose my salvation.You don't go to heaven for how good you are or how much money you give to a church its a heart thing that gets you there and God knows your heart. If you just refuse instead of seeking God truly he will know.
@hawklord2001 Read matthew 21- 23 there are people who are so called christian who believe Jesus died on the cross for our sins which would technically give you eternal life in heaven but don't end up there. Selling your soul is just another foolish lie from the devil. Salvation is a free gift you just have to accept it. When you say you're a christian but enter the church to just make money or flirt with different women which still happens today theres a good chance you won't make it there.
@HeroBidd0 " Salvation is a free gift you just have to accept it. "
It is not free. You must agree to submit to God for all eternity no?
And btw, until God's existence can be proven, anything the Bible has to say on the divinity of christ or the afterlife is irrelevant.
"I'm not looking to debate a play on words"
It's not a play on words. Theory is based on known demonstrable verifiable FACTS. Whereas creation is at best a hypothesis and most likely just wishful thinking.
@hawklord2001 Atheists tend to try and ignore things they deem not fair. Never listening to the whole story living in heaven for eternity if you think you're just sitting around in a big temple your conception is way way off. Thats typical though never looking through all the facts and just taking things at face value rather than looking deeper so you run and go a whole other way. The devil can lie to you. Theory: An idea (NOT FACT) used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
@HeroBidd0 "Never listening to the whole story living in heaven for eternity if you think you're just sitting around in a big temple your conception is way way off. " You know this to be true how exactly?
"Something made from nothing then the fine tuning of the universe to make life sustainable for us to live"
The universe did not come from nothing. The fine tuning is a fallacy relying on the assumption that the universe was made for US. There is no indication that that is the case.
@HeroBidd0 "Thats typical though never looking through all the facts and just taking things at face value rather than looking deeper so you run and go a whole other way."
What facts? I repeat until God's existence can be proven, anything the Bible has to say on the divinity of christ or the afterlife is irrelevant.
@hawklord2001 something rather than nothing then on top of that order from chaos also the proof Jesus is real and did die on the cross for our sins. Any true biblical scholar could tell you that Jesus did exist and they have on record document upon document of his existence. My job isn't to convert you just to give defense and argument for what i believe in. We could debate all day but you aren't the enemy its the devil. Hed rather have you in the dark and make you believe you're just an animal
@hawklord2001 You can question his divinity in the documents the texts the eye witnesses of his resurrection. I don't doubt we share the same designer but the same DNA I don't believe we do. Believe it or not you're not just an animal if you were the moral values that come with being a person would be meaning less. You know right from wrong good from bad. Since we're on the subject do you think its moraly wrong for an animal to have sex with a different species of animal ?
@HeroBidd0 "Since we're on the subject do you think its moraly wrong for an animal to have sex with a different species of animal ?"
"Since we're on the subject do you think its moraly wrong for an animal to have sex with a different species of animal ?'
I don't know if this is possible.
Forced sex(rape, coercion etc.), cheating on ones spouse, sexual abuse of children I find morally abhorrent . I have no moral issues with what consenting adults wish to do sexually.
@hawklord2001 So then you would have to admit that moral values do exist. Also if your wife decided to consent to have sexual relations with someone other than you, you wouldn't have a problem with that either?
@hawklord2001 Something made from nothing then the fine tuning of the universe to make life sustainable for us to live then on top of that the evolutionary process to occur in the perfect conditions sounds more like wishful thinking than anything.
@HeroBidd0 You are essentially saying that because your will to not be objective with all the facts and reasoning presented, the belief in a non-physical entity that is not observable is true? The position is not "everything was created by nothing". This is logical. Belief in fantasy is not. Men are apes. Men and monkeys have a common ancestor and there are fossils to substantiate this scientific fact. Your lack of understanding doesnt reinforce your false claims simply because you dont know.
@brittonvs well i learned something from a testimony not too long ago. I can't force anyone to believe in what their heart doesn't want them to believe in that has to come from you to actually look at the evidence that even science claims. Quotes on how plausible the given situation would actually be. The universe had a beginning and also the fine tuning of it is too well done to be admissible as a mistake. Something does not come from nothing.. makes sense right? God bless
@HeroBidd0 Something doesnt come from nothing(=god,right?)That's a bit of a jump.Listen,by all means argue that a religious world is better than a non-religious,but don't try and tell us that science is proving god.You're talking nonsense.Hang on to your fine tuning if you like, but that(one of the remaining scientific mysteries in which religions cower)at best gets you to deism, NOT theism.Then you make the jump to(roughly)-this means Jesus DID rise for our sins(?).Pls understand the difference
@TheDeuce2233 The bible is full of knowledge and truth Jesus did die for our sins please explain otherwise how we got here. You can't but you do have your it just happened at one point in time from nothing to something to evolution to us. Plenty of scientific quotes refuting evolution and the big bang. You don't truly try to ask and seek with an open heart you won't find God. You don't want to believe you can be saved that's fine good luck looking for "real answers". God bless
@HeroBidd0 You just denied evolution(a totally falsifiable explanation from 150 years ago which is as certain as ever) Then you said 'you don't truly ask and seek...you don't want to believe'. I'm not an unduly offensive man but these are the ramblings of an ignoramus. I am open to the possibility of god and very curious about 'how we got here'- but you are no wiser than me on this subject in that we both know nothing, as the evidence is absent,one of us doesn't pretend otherwise. More coming
I don't believe that there is a god in the same way that I don't believe in a unicorn or a pipe smoking bunny rabbit. I have no evidence of absence, as that is impossible. I have no evidence of existence, thus giving no credence to the theory of god(s).
mike000000000000able 3 weeks ago
"Obviously you are not used to thinking logically or using reason."
Obviously you can't recognize satire.
PDzero 1 month ago
You total dummy - you broke a primary rule of logic - it is not up to me to DISprove anything - it is up to you to PROVE God - obviously you are not used to thinking logically or using reason.
templarseries 1 month ago
@templarseries why does he have to prove god? Are you really that important?
bushstalker 1 month ago
I actually saw a pipe smoking bunny rabbit once, i was in the forest walking around and there it was. i couldn't believe it... I was on shrooms at the time though. (and thus religion was born)
lopendepaddo 1 month ago
do you believe the world is 10,000 years old? :)
nukeman82 1 month ago
@PDzero Aww this is satire? I wanted to troll some butt hurt religious kid. BTW Fun Fact: the age of consent in The Vatican is 12 lololololololool
lkjhgfddfd 1 month ago
Ironically this question works in atheists favour. It both ridicules and mocks the person asking it. Brilliant, well done.
whatifitneversnows 1 month ago
Dude you look like the guy from the Michael Jackson video called Rock my world.
hardcase678 2 months ago
@hardcase678 What "guy" are you referring to, exactly? Not the creepy one I hope. ( Excluding MJ )
Funny coincidence, by the way. The day before you posted this comment I decided to watch the video clip of You Rock My World since years. Must be God playing a prank. LOLOMGWTF!
PDzero 2 months ago
I'll do it WLC style, with extra fallacious :
1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause
2. The pipe smoking bunny rabbit doesn't have a cause (I mean it's senseless!)
3. Given 1 and 2, the pipe smoking bunny rabbit doesn't exist.
I might be conflating a thing or two, but so is WLC. Do I win a prize?
slipcurve 2 months ago
Bays theorem disproves the pipe smokingbunny rabbit
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago
Well done, sir. Well done.
SssJersey 2 months ago
Our Lord Bunny Rabbit smokes a CIGAR, you heretic.
MrRazorz 2 months ago
@MrRazorz Nicely done
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
what the hell is the pipe smoking bunny rabbit?
marthabeck94 3 months ago
A very clever answer!
I'm giving this video thumbs up......
Dunniebrasco 3 months ago
Hey Atheists!
If there's no pipe smoking bunny rabbit, why do we have eggs on Easter!?
DuskHermit 3 months ago
@DuskHermit I suppose a chicken might have laid them ...
marthabeck94 3 months ago
Its not about disproving something, we cant disprove a lot of things. The burden of proof lays on the individual claiming something exists, if they have no proof, I've no reason to believe
moroney1 4 months ago
@XrayDL The video doesn't really deal with science v.s. faith. It deals with a logical falacy and with the who has the burden of proof. The guy who i'm parodying in the video says Atheist cannot disprove God. I point out we cannot disprove any claim of a higher power, whether it's claiming it was God or a smoking rabbit that is responsible for our existence. ( cont )
PDzero 4 months ago
... (cont.) to swear it, but that does not mean it happened in actuality. Faith and Science have thier own places, and each are suited to work best inside thier own realm of what they pertain to. Basically... You believe in God... Ok... and?
XrayDL 4 months ago
"We" being either the individual or us as a species. Science just answers "How does it work..." And just believing in verifiable concepts like Quantum Mechanics does not exclude the possibility of a creator. But, it's a possibility. A two-thousand year old book proves nothing. I could write a book about how I am dark lord master of the universe... Would anyone believe that in the future? I could say 500 people watched me electrocute a herd of sheep with lightning from my ass, and get those...
XrayDL 4 months ago
Someone said this clip is just clever satire, but in the event it is not... Your arguement is fundamentally flawed. Just because someone (and I am not an Athiest) cannot disprove the fictional bunny rabbit does not validate a claim of God. I think you're all retarded. The classical definition of God is perfectly compatible with science, and science is compatible with faith. They answer to completely different questions. A faith is the answer to "Why are we here..."
XrayDL 4 months ago
@XrayDL Don't call people retarded because they think differently to you.The question 'why are we here' may well be the question every faith is working to(and maybe does) answer but the point here, is how that somehow makes the object of the faith real, or more likely. From a neutral position I'd say faith reflects a human being's ability to stack information so that the inference garnered preserves their optimism.This theory explains why we have false prophets and religions that still succeeds.
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
how can six small bunnies pull the Godess chariot around the world in one night so she can deliver candy to all children on Easter day. The bunnies need a toke or two to get them flying of course.
SqueakerAlpha 4 months ago
By the way, @PDzero, scientific fact is not proven by what isn't, but by what is. Me not being able to disprove the existence of a fictional character does not, in itself, prove your god exists. No scientific law has ever been accepted due to overwhelming lack of evidence. What an absurd, asinine question.
sammydems 4 months ago
@sammydems
Do you not realize this video is meant to be satirical?
PDzero 4 months ago
@PDzero Thank God.
sammydems 4 months ago
@sammydems Oh, the irony of thanking God for that. ;)
PDzero 4 months ago 2
@PDzero I'm glad you caught it haha.
sammydems 4 months ago
@PDzero
"video is meant to be satirical?"
Well punch me in the nutsack, you really got me. What an amazing Poe.
>:(
YetAnotherInfidel 3 months ago
@PDzero Then why not state that as it is not obvious.
templarseries 1 month ago
Good God, you theists are so egotistical. "I'm important and an all-powerful being cares about me!"
No, you're not, and they don't. You're just one more insignificant creature on one more insignificant planet in one more insignificant galaxy in one perhaps significant universe. I hope you prepare yourselves for the oblivion that is death, because there is no fantasy world where all your hopes and dreams come true. Your carbon gets recycled and that's the end of your story.
sammydems 4 months ago
Bunnies don't have pockets - where would it keep its matches? WHERE WOULD IT KEEP ITS MATCHES??
IamSpydaMic 4 months ago
Sorry but the Flying Spaghetti Monster ate your bunny rabbit.
jollyandwaylo 4 months ago
Can you prove the pipe smoking bunny does exist?
RevSpudz 4 months ago
I find it entertaining when people consider this a good argument. You can not prove that this rabbit exists, but neither can you prove the non-existance of any mythological creature ever invented! Therefore God should be taken as seriously as this pipe smoking Bunny-Rabbit. And for the claim that God desinged everything I would say that such claims were to some point understandable when people wrote the Bible, but these claims should not be taken seriously in todays modern world.
awe1507 4 months ago
This whole thing about Spaghetti Monster, God, Allah, more bullshit, is so stupid. Look, you people need to either get rid of all these ideas or keep them to your fucking self. We are all humans, fighting like 5 year old children. Fighting is what a child does. But we call it war when an adult does it. It's all the same idiots. Mature up.
CntthnkO15 5 months ago
It could exist but the odds of it actually existing are very low. Here is what I think how we came to be, in order for us to exist something infinite has to create us. Let's call it Consciousness. But, why do you theists believe this Consciousness is there to protect you in some way? Is it not clear that IT set natural laws for a reason? How about, let's live by those rules and not made up bullsh*t that is always prone to fraud and dishonesty. Why would IT give free will to just take it away?
CntthnkO15 5 months ago
I've smoked weed with that rabbit.. and he tells me this GOD from the bible does not exist...
Just THOR, THOR exist, he said....
thiagoramos2011 5 months ago
Just like the Flying Spaghetti Monster, only I'm pretty sure not being able to disprove it doesn't mean it's real.
Kadiezi 5 months ago
Hahahahahaha!
misterbarbister 5 months ago
the pipe smoking bunny does exist! My family told me so when I was a little boy.
userduuude 5 months ago 16
The word " evidence " is the most hated among religious nuts. They have none, it is all bullshit they come up with. Religious nut is as much of an atheist as it is any other atheist. If you believe in Jesus than you are atheist respect to all the other gods. Religion is a child abuse that should be punished. It creates emotionally retarded people.
alexsdjtube 5 months ago
@alexsdjtube What evidence is missing( not here) that would be here in your mind, in a God created universe and how are you qualified to know? LOL What would constitute evidence? just like in court of law there are parameters for what constitutes evidence and they lawyers and judge both know how that is defined, so they are QUALIFIED to dismiss "alleged evidence" My question to you atheist is what exactly would be evidence in a God created universe? LOL
carlindelco 5 months ago
@carlindelco It's difficult to answer but one thing I'd be sure of is if god has intervened and wanted us to know, we would know. Too much goes against this idea, starting with there being many successful religions that were obviously made up. To be a theist you believe god HAS left us evidence of her existence AND that it's indistinguishable by the majority from frauds. Surely, an immediate deal breaker to any level headed person. The she-god angle goes to expose the human fingerprints all over
JeffStDeuce 5 months ago
@JeffStDeuce RE:"It's difficult to answer" LOL it's the first questions you should have asked and answered! He ahs intervened, read passages in the Bible.. like Moses for starters. You have a hollywood idea on how God must intervene, not how he does. OMG He has.. (see:Entire Universe) You have completely dodged the question by asserting a vague and extremely subjective opinion rather that stating something very specific in the construct. "she God" put the pipe down and try again ok ..
carlindelco 4 months ago
@carlindelco People believe in all kinds of gods on all kinds of 'evidence'. My answer then: My 'hollywood' idea is that god provide us with good evidence of supernatural force or power, and 'good' evidence for that(to me, maybe not you) cannot be in the form of an ancient document. More clearly, good evidence that god has revealed himself and wants us to know a specific message, should, at the very least, be distinct from frauds. Please clarify which part is 'extremely subjective'.
JeffStDeuce 4 months ago
@JeffStDeuce Evidence is all around, it just requires some intelligence to recognize intelligence. Again you ask for evidence?? What is missing from this construct that you "believe" should be here and how are you qualified to say so. Simple question.. but yet NO atheist has been able to answer.. I'm sure you googled to search for one. Do you know the difference between knowing and faith? Answer the question I've asked you 5 times already..
carlindelco 4 months ago
@carlindelco We're discussing this question are we not? How am I qualified? What is this qualification? Do you have them? Your suggestion of abundant evidence 'all around' is surprisingly bold and suspiciously vague. Please elaborate. If u think I didnt answer from a theist position(which Im quite sure is you?) you need to re-read my last 2 replies, I made my evidence requirements clear. If you're a deist, we certainly could admit different types of evidence,I'll list some that would compel me..
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@carlindelco -An example of irreducible complexity
-Rabbits in the precambrian i.e any fossil example that chronologically contradicts the tree of life
-Evidence that the body of observable physical laws have been breached
-Evidence of non-material existence and life
-And why not some of standard holy book currency, the dead being raised,acension to heaven,flying white horses.I could go on.If well demonstrated and proved not fraudulent any and all would be good evidence by my personal standard
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@carlindelco If you want to have an intellectual conversation please show more class.Now,first you couldnt understand what I'd said and finally asked me again(i think)to answer it(?)If you didnt understand at least my second post it seems you're unaware of the arguments that form your own position.You didnt elaborate on your 'evidence all around' except for making a statement about what god could and has done and then called it a 'scientific reason'(lol).You're not a scientist are you?more comin
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@carlindelco 2 replies ago you said my opinion was 'extremely subjective'. You never did point out what was extremely subjective and how? So far you've named one piece of 'evidence' which turned out to be a scientific minority opinion attached to a theological statement about god, and what god does. If we are to progress in this dialogue you need to understand that what you are classing as evidence is nonsense to most people...
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@carlindelco This is important when thinking about your 'what should be here that is not'? We have a different standard of 'convincing', you havnt given much of an insight into your standards. I gave you a list of what defined mine, and you said you didnt understand what it said.Well sorry, but most people wouldnt get lost in what i'd written and I dont know how to water it down again so read up on the words you dont understand rather than telling me again(quite pathetically)that I didnt answer.
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@carlindelco In fact why not tell me the specific sentences you don't understand and I'll be happy to extrapolate it's meaning. But if you want to keep a discussion you must produce something of substance either detailed information for a theist perspective or a SPECIFIC rebuttal of what I've said. If you just come back with more taunts and insistence I've 'avoided' your really hard question, I wont be replying
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@JeffStDeuce Look kid you have way to much time on your hands.. I asked 1 simple in order to start a ligitimate and honest debate and you failed to answer. therefore we can not continue to discuss this on your terms, where you sit there with arms folded denying anything that is presented as evidence as such, while NOT offering one single counter offer, or any clue on what should be here in terms of forensic evidence of God, that YOU believe is not here. I win,,thanks
carlindelco 3 months ago
@carlindelco '..denying anything that is presented as evidence as such' Haha.Does 'as such' mean you presented me with evidence in your head and I 'denied' it? What did I deny? I'm struggling to recall any of this 'evidence presented'.The only thing I remember was when you said 'only god can create genetic information'! Is this the 'evidence' your talking about? I didnt 'deny' anything,unless we've miscommunicated I'm at a loss as Im unaware of any other 'evidence' you presented,please remind me
JeffStDeuce 3 months ago
@JeffStDeuce lol you totally owned him good job man. Atheist rule!
psychodrumplayer14 3 months ago
@JeffStDeuce here is evidence. ONLY intelligence can create information, DNA IS information. Not only that , it is created, transmitted , received and then implemented. Now,,tel me atheist since I already KNOW tat you are going to deny that, YOU then have to offer a an example of what WOULD be evidence of God. Like in court room, attorney KNOW what is evidence and then find and present it. You are acting like a judge dismissing it all, while NOT explaining what would be evidence U FAIL too easy!
carlindelco 2 months ago
@carlindelco I'll be more specific for you. Evidence to you seems to be things you(and we all) dont fully understand, and almost anything unknown or going unanswered is to you evidence of god. Like say 'this is too complex to exist naturally or randomly... there must be a much more complex being and this is its creation' (problematic) Anyway, you say 'dont dismiss, you must..' if I reject your submissions. Ok, obviously I have done that and u replied. I will discuss it in a different way too tho
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
@carlindelco You might not like this but i dont think you can say its unfair or close minded.To me it seems obvious that if god WANTED us to know he is creator and so left evidence of it, the evidence would be something we'd all agree on. Actually the more i think about it the word 'agree' seems to light. It would be indisputable if god actually WANTED us to know.To me,on hearing the story of god's messnger or son(or whatever way it's received)everyone would immediately know it had to be true...
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
@carlindelco ..It would have to be true because the content would be something unique and 'divine'. Eg. Im saying, it shouldnt be possible for someone to hear the gospel of Jesus and see it as a repugnant human sacrifice(as some do)if it was really god's most significant message to us. A message from god would not need to be defended as genuine. If one(god) is genuine, god knew we wouldnt agree on the true content and that not everyone even gets to hear the story. Thats the start of the problems
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
@carlindelco It worth just closing with the(to me obvious) infernece that religions being made by man and not inspired by god explains all these things. Of course we know that all but a max of one is, precisely, man made. Of course(a deist might say) it's possible god is real but didnt want to 'contact' us but somehow did 'leave' evidence that there was a creator. It seems even more far fetched to me.
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
@JeffStDeuce Wouldn't you want to tell your creation who you were, and how to behave? He speaks to us, just not in the way you believe he should..
carlindelco 2 months ago
@JeffStDeuce and RE"only god can create genetic information" Remember men SAYING?? can read, where did I say that , you put it in quote like it was verbatim ( that means : In exactly the same words as were used originally I didn't..... You lose...just admit it. ALL of you are intellectually dishonest.
carlindelco 2 months ago
@carlindelco I apologise for my misquote, but you do believe it was god right? You're exact words 'only intelligence..' The thrust of your arguments are picking at my phrasing. Grow up and act like an man, I didnt misrepresent you at all so it's irrelevent childish shit slinging. Now, Im acting like a judge dismissing 'it all'. It all would be the mountain of evidence I've disqualified? This is obviously nonsense. I rejected one piece of 'evidence' because......
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
@carlindelco Your 'evidence'has some problems. Explaining the origin of an unusual(or seemingly unnatural) complexity with 'a more complex being' is not to explain anything as you create the same question you seek to solve. Basic logic Im sure you will grasp. The conclusion that it was god is also suspiciously automatic. If you want to convince us Id want you to demonstrate how that connection is made, Im sure a court would too.
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
@carlindelco You insist 'only intelligence' can create information dont you mean god? Could there be intelligence('information creating') that isnt a god? If so, your automatic jump to 'god did it' seems even more fishy.Why couldnt there be a non-god creator? So, you have a scientific statement which near all biologists would reject, along with a conclusion which speculates what god can, and has done. Can you honestly say you think I should be convinced by this(your only) piece of 'evidence'
JeffStDeuce 2 months ago
I am the pipe smoking bunny rabbit. Bow to me.
cwzialor 5 months ago
lol positives: pipe smoking bunnyrabbit=brilliant. negatives: u look like a fucking weird MJ, im sorry for you. and the PSBR (rabbit) didn't have millions of believers/followers or books handed down through the generations about it. a "Christian God" may not make sense, but a or multiple deities/divine beings does not seem so unreasonable.
difference between atheists and agnostics? atheists are trolls lol.
redgibson1 5 months ago
@PDzero I am Agnostic which means I don't know, but bashing athiest on not being able to prove a pipe smoking bunny rabbit exists is dumb and for one reason, you creationists can't prove that it does exist! Thus showing everyone on th einternet what a moron you are and you didn't take the time to think about how Atheists think and u obviously are too brainwashed in your cult to read a book other than the Bible.
Biglzwerth1983 6 months ago
great point. this is THE ONLY thing atheists can`t disprove. you chose to name it pipe smoking bunny rabbit but it has many many names. nice video. keep up the good work.
andreiuta171 6 months ago
"Important side issues", haha.
lightsoutnow30 6 months ago
This guy is Alien.
SultanOfSwords 6 months ago
ive got proof:
bunnys dont smoke pipes
... they smoke weed!
ZANDERM16 6 months ago
Your post is so poorly lettered it barely qualifies as jibberish, I'll address what I could relate. NEAR DEATH! Shall I spell out the letters for you? NEARLY dying, isn't dying. There's people who attest to seeing zeus in the sky and I guess you don't subscribe to those beliefs; either they're right, under a misapprehension or they're lying. Choose. But please don't pretend it's evidence and expect us to keep listening. Btw I'm no atheist- you assume without questioning, therein lies your folly.
TheDeuce2233 6 months ago
At first I was like... WTF? Then I was like... Cool!
jp00000420 6 months ago
Darwin would crack a bunny rabbit's head open, look at the brain, conclude that the bunny rabbit does not have the intelligence or opposable thumbs needed to smoke a pipe. He would then flip every theist off and take a short nap.
A smoking monkey is something I couldn't disprove, but screw bunnysmoke.
ServeTheBeaver 6 months ago
wow u thinking theres a designer behind our ecosystems just prove how undereducated u r wen it cums to natural selection. and how cum god never gets blamed 4 perfectly designing satan which then (according 2 most of u guys) (not all) in turn created leprosy,hunger,sin,AIDS,bubonic plague, parasites, death, hell, and pain.
animerocks161 6 months ago
Im sorry, you can't shift the burden of proof :)
So funny watching these people trying to shift the burden of proof.
Scanini 6 months ago
it's unsientific that a rabit kan smoke pipe it's little longs would explode.. however if you read the qur'aan you find sientific proofs who were confirmed by scientists (many non-moslims) in the 21 century.. before that the technology wasn't advanced,, who was possible to claim these things in a 1400 year old book? many will say mohammed did (Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) but he was unletterd.. so how come?
jebemticerku 7 months ago
@jebemticerku Bullshit! Mention ONE scientific proof foretold by the qur'aan! I dare you! Love how you say "confirmed by scientist (many non-moslims)". Moslim scientist is something of a contradiction in terms I would say. If it hadn't been for the west the moslim world would still be in the dark ages materially as well as intellectually.
arnean 7 months ago
@arnean
he Qur'an draws attention to a very important geological function of mountains:
We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur'an, 21:31)
The verse states that mountains perform the function of preventing shocks in the Earth.
In one verse, we are informed that mountains are not motionless as they seem, but are in constant motion.
You see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds. (Qur'an, 27:88)
jebemticerku 7 months ago
@jebemticerku Your verses are ambigous and vague and with no predictive or explanatory value, the "science" you mention is wrong and did you know that it was the ancient Greeks that came up with the word and concept of the atmosphere (Greek word..) a thousand years before Mohammed? Must have been divine inspiration. Lets all worship Zeus!
arnean 7 months ago
@arnean
Maybe atmosphere is a greek word i just mentioned however i made a mistake to reffering to atmosphere.. the vers was reffering to the ozone.. my english is not 100% :P
However your reaction is only based on 21:32 what do you say about the mountains..?
an can you proof this about the greeks.. i like to have a source..
jebemticerku 7 months ago
@jebemticerku The verse says nothing about protection from the sun's rays, so it is not valid at all to say that this verse predicts Ozone. Besides if an almighty God put the Ozone layer there, it would be pretty incompetent to make it so weak that millions get skin cancer anyway... The notion that a mountain range and its "root" stabilises anything in the sense of preventing earthquakes is simply wrong. The forces which create mountain ranges are the same ones that create earthquakes.
arnean 6 months ago
@arnean
One of the properties of seas that has only recently been discovered is related in a verse of the Qur'an as follows:
He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through. (Qur'an, 55:19-20)
In the Qur'an, Allah calls our attention to a very important attribute of the sky:
We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs. (Qur'an, 21:32) The atmosphere surrounding the Earth..
jebemticerku 7 months ago
@arnean
One of the properties of seas that has only recently been discovered is related in a verse of the Qur'an as follows:
He has let loose the two seas, converging together, with a barrier between them they do not break through. (Qur'an, 55:19-20)
In the Qur'an, Allah calls our attention to a very important attribute of the sky:
We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs. (Qur'an, 21:32) The atmosphere surrounding the Earth..
jebemticerku 7 months ago
@arnean Have We not made the earth as a bed, and the mountains as pegs? [Noble Quran 78:6-7]
Modern earth sciences have proven that mountains have deep roots under the surface of the ground and that these roots can reach several times their elevations above the surface of the ground
And He has set firm mountains in the earth so that it would not shake with you... [Noble Quran 16:15]
Likewise the modern theory of plate tectonics holds that mountains work as stabilizers for the earth.
jebemticerku 7 months ago
The pipe-smoking bunny rabbit exists in a matrix where he is unaware that he is in a matrix.
rcguy69 7 months ago
@DanTheBrahman As i said its a heart thing if God knows your heart you should research before you speak. If you reject the gospel you will be sent to damnation. If you don't have knowledge of heaven hell and all of that stuff in between God is fair and will judge you accordingly. Jesus didn't bring religion he bought himself to have a relationship to know and to love your fellow man its a heart thing. You could be raised in the church all of your life if your hearts not right you wont enter.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 " If you reject the gospel you will be sent to damnation. If you don't have knowledge of heaven hell and all of that stuff in between God is fair and will judge you accordingly. "
Your view of hell comes from a clearly biased source. You need more sources than that, to make an informed decision. We are talking eternity here. Satan has to date never delivered up a manifesto. You can't possibly know if you have made the correct decision as you say it "a heart thing" wishful thinking.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 You have to believe the lord Jesus died on the cross for you. He is the way the truth and the life the only way though heaven is through him. The devil doesn't want you to know that. He is the son of God divine and we're all sinners he went to hell for us. That's how you are saved. If you act like Jesus just exists on Sunday and not any other day then your hearts not in the right place. Its in Phlippians 2:12 /watch?v=kGQPQ2EJVyY and ex satanist confession /watch?v=n3WdTFwk9j4
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
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@HeroBidd0 "You have to believe the lord Jesus died on the cross for you."
Thousands of people have sacrificed themselves over the centuries for humanity. With Christ tho You also have to believe he was divine in which case it was no sacrifice.
I really don't put any stock in what the bible has to say about the afterlife, until one can prove that A) God exists and B) Christ was divine.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
who cares how we got here, we are , cant we all just be friends and agree to disagree?
skatefoshizzle 7 months ago
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@skatefoshizzle "who cares how we got here, we are , cant we all just be friends and agree to disagree?"
Our drive to know these things our what spurs discovery. To not be curious leads to stagnation.
"cant we all just be friends and agree to disagree?""
No. not when so many people make important decisions based on a possibly erroneous belief.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
Infidel! Behead those who insult the flying spaghetti monster!
There is no FSM but FSM!
bookwormbandit 7 months ago
And by the way evolution is a proven fact people...look around you or in other words OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!
Mattwest1985 7 months ago
@Mattwest1985 Please prove to me evolution is a fact.... and i don't mean macro evolution. Thats why its called the evolutionary THEORY. There is no proof for it no missing link from ape to man or from lizard to bird. You should look up Laurence Tisdall. Come back and try again.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 You should look up scientific theory, which is different from philosophical theory. Any god that has ever existed is a philosophical theory. Evolution is a scientific theory that is 2 very different things. You google and Wikipedia to look up the meaning of the terms.
tkmikkelsen1 7 months ago
@tkmikkelsen1 I'm not looking to debate a play on words I'm looking for evidence. Dancing around the question is what children do when they don't have logical answers.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
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@HeroBidd0 evidence is hard. If you believe that there is a god or flying reindeer exist, then I can never prove you wrong, because you will always be able to say that I didn't look in the right place. You on the other have a golden opportunity to prove to be that these things exist, be delivering just one irrefutable evidence that it is so. What this video is about and what you are alluding to is the proving a negative fallacy, look it up.
tkmikkelsen1 7 months ago
Perfect reply bro. Love it!!
Mattwest1985 7 months ago
If I were to make the claim that a Pipe-smoking Bunny existed, the burden of proof would be placed on me. I don't understand why theists dont' get this. If my claim contradicts reason, you will require evidence. You wouldn't accept the claim even if I presented you with 1500 year old stories that have been translated and revisionned to accomodate political powers. You are an intelligent, rational being, you would require proof just I require it to believe your claims.
OneSoullessAtheist 7 months ago
i love how bible thumpers try to prove atheism wrong by saying we have no evidence when all science and logical thinking is on our side.
fact is when you die your worm bait no heaven no hell,
our brain is a self aware network that gives us consciousness that is confused with a so called spirit.You cant prove me wrong you have no reliable evidence.
iFLaTLyNe 7 months ago
if gods almighty can he create a rock that even he cant lift if so he is not almighty because he cant lift it
iFLaTLyNe 7 months ago
@PDzero you're doing great, this video is awesome. Every video in this topic is getting us 1 step closer to a free society. THANKS!
liadsman 7 months ago
Long story short the people who claim God doesn't exist doesn't try to seek him. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
THE BUNNY WILL PREVAIL!
liadsman 8 months ago
I don't get the point of this video. You can't prove that there is a God or pipe smoking rabbit that controls the world, and the unavailability of proof is what the atheist belief is derived from. So you're turning it into a "Prove it!", "Disprove it!" argument where both sides senselessly banter back and forth? Why can't everyone just let people decide for themselves? It's a personal choice that one shouldn't be pressured into.
Try to prove either side, you can't.
PineHack 8 months ago
is this satire?
Animeabe 8 months ago
@Animeabe
...yes
PDzero 8 months ago
you are funny , I love you can you marry me? :)
dua333 8 months ago
Everyone knows that pipes and bunny rabbits already exist so whats the point of trying to disprove them? I guess by saying "The" pipe smoking bunny rabbit you are saying this is a special one that is responsible for creating everything. So arent you just taking a pipe smoking bunny rabbit and giving it the attributes of god?
gutbolt 8 months ago 3
There were no trees at the time the Pipe Smoking Bunny Rabbit created the universe. He could not of had the smoking pipe if there was no wood. Even if he created a tree, he does not have the knowledge nor the physical attributes to carve a wooden smoking pipe.
Problem?
xDaveeedo 8 months ago
Not even worth it....
ablueskyforisis1975 8 months ago
I too, left out my bias..and my conclusion: atheism is absolutely certain.
pillowbugg 8 months ago
HAIL THE RABBIT
Boosterbeast 8 months ago
you werent trying to see it from a ' atheists ' the difference between atheists and a god squad is atheists look for PROOF ,. or a pipe smoking rabbit - where atheists look around and just know in our hearts and minds that there isnt one
TheJonwalters 8 months ago
Hey look, it's an alien!
SirSexyAlot 8 months ago
Heh. I love god-botherers. Every time I'm bored I get to laugh at a sample of carbon-based wastage. Language is wasted on these poor folks, but I'm glad they have it for the comedic value. By the way, God, can you buy this guy something to eat...
alapahi 8 months ago
So we came from nothing (the big bang) then we evolved from distant animal relatives on a planet thats close enough to where we don't freeze far enough away to where we don't burn up. NDE's are just chemical reactions in the brain? really?!? It seems it would take more faith to be an atheist than to ever be a Christian any day
HeroBidd0 8 months ago
@HeroBidd0 ...have you even listened to a single word I said in the video? Of course it takes more "faith" to be an atheist. The pipe smoking bunny-rabbit's existence is obvious!1!
PDzero 8 months ago
@PDzero This was a comment geared towards "Atheists"
HeroBidd0 8 months ago
@HeroBidd0 Which he is one.
BigLundi 8 months ago
@PDzero
Your channel didn't really give much info on what stance you take.
But that comment surely did :)
Btw, what is the bunny-rabbit smoking in that pipe anyway ?
Groetjes!
mindwis3 8 months ago
@mindwis3 Haha! Yeah, this is the only video I ever made covering religion. I would like to do more but there already are so many Atheists active on YouTube doing a better job than I probably could, but I just couldn't help myself making this spoof. Hits the burden of proof argument right on the nail I think.
Oh, and the pipe is responsible for the creation of our universe. As soon as the almighty Bunny, our lord and savior lit his pipe our universe popped into existence!
PDzero 8 months ago 3
@HeroBidd0 I didn't understand a single sentence you've written.
liadsman 8 months ago
@liadsman Laymans terms How did order come from chaos? Every design has a desinger. We are the design. I'm not willing to believe that the fine tuning which made life sustainable for us which is on a tipping scale happened by accident. Even if Gravity was 1/10 off we wouldn't be having this conversation. People who are afraid of the truth are willing to believe EVERYTHING WAS CREATED BY NOTHING via universal slipup causing evolution yet no transitional fossils from ape to man have been found...
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 order and chaos are human terms, and have no meaning whatsoever in the natural world. You could say the galaxies are spinning in total chaos or in complete order - that's just human observation and it's a moot point. In the overall existence of everything that there is or ever will be, given the magnitude of the universe and the possibilities it presents, "slip ups" (as you so put it) have INCREDIBLE consequences from a human perspective. But that's all it is - a human perspective.
liadsman 7 months ago
And a human perspective is all we have. The religious perspective is incrediblט vain because it puts us humans right in the middle of EVERYTHING. How so? Are you really that selfish and self absorbed that you think the universe cares about you? You are so tiny and meaningless and a universal perspective, so in order to feel better about the fact that there's nothing beyond death, and that you are meaningless - you invent a father figure to watch over you and tell you what to do.
liadsman 7 months ago
To conclude, I think life is an overrated phenomenon. I hope you find relief from your fears.
liadsman 7 months ago
@liadsman sigh... you fail to have evidence to back up your claim like an example theres proof for God and if you knew the complexity of DNA you'd probably want to think twice. You seem like the type who'd have better luck believing the graphic novel story of the Incredible Hulk. Happy lab accdients of random chemicals make you stronger instead of killing you. I know my God is real and if god is real that means his word follows on such beings as the devil. I hope you find relief from his lies =)
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 I never made any claims. You're the one with fantastic claims (and I do mean to full extent of the word 'fantastic') and it's up to you to back that up without using circular arguments, without asking to prove a negative and without using a definition to define itself. Those are the 3 first and most basic rules of logic. If you can't comply with basic logic, we have nothing to discuss.
liadsman 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 And I'll elaborate so it's clear:
Circular arguments - saying god exists because the bible says so, and the bible is right because god wrote it (or inspired someone to write it) is a circular argument.
Asking atheists to prove god doesn't exist is a paradox. You're are never called upon to prove a negative. There's virtually an endless supply of "un-disprovable" fictions out there. Again, that's a moot point.
If I can't PROVE god exists, neither can you.
liadsman 7 months ago
And Since Neither of us can PROVE god exists, one must ask - on what claims do you base your religion on? A hunch? A sense of enlightenment? An alleged knowledge of DNA?
We used to think flies have 8 legs because a scientists said so. But then someone came and PROVED OTHERWISE and science changed overnight. Science still discovers new phenomena every day and changes its premises when required. Does your religion have that power or does it stand there and rot like a bloated, bronze-age cow?
liadsman 7 months ago
And that remark about the devil right at the end of your meaningless mouth-fart proves you are no match for the intellect of modern humans. Your mind is a relic, and your ideas will soon perish. Maybe not in the next century, maybe not in my lifetime. But hopefully by the year 2200 (should humans survive that long) the idea of religion will seem as ridiculous as racism, not letting gay couples be together and other dark thoughts of that kind. Logic is winning. Religion is poison.
liadsman 7 months ago
@liadsman Did i strike a cord? Are you a homosexual? You just can't come to terms with the fact that if God does exist he'll know whats in your heart. No ones perfect and God knows that. Atheists seem to like to be in control of the situation they're not really ever going to be in control of. You just have to decide what you want to do for eternity. So much evidence piles up for God so i come from a logical standpoint. Yet less and less evidence for atheism so you try to argue emotionally..
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 "Atheists seem to like to be in control of the situation they're not really ever going to be in control of."
Isn't it the opposite? Believers are the ones that claim they have control. Believe in God and you will be guaranteed eternal existence. Atheists claim no such control.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 Atheist claim to be in control of their own life and destiny created by a universal accident and when it ends theres nothing left. Atheists try to write God out with lies of evolution and other things. Life is just a phenomena that just happened you live for a spark of a second and there is no external force affecting it. Also we don't claim control if you read John 3:16 it states we're not in control he is.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 "Also we don't claim control if you read John 3:16 it states we're not in control he is."
I'll agree that you are not in control but what reasons do you have for believeing what the bible says is true.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 Because the reasons claiming God isn't real is more foolish than anything. Evolution isn't proven true but still taught in school. I believe I have a purpose just like everyone else. I believe theres a God who loves me and a devil that wants to make sure i lose my salvation.You don't go to heaven for how good you are or how much money you give to a church its a heart thing that gets you there and God knows your heart. If you just refuse instead of seeking God truly he will know.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 " Evolution isn't proven true."
Thats incorrect.
"You don't go to heaven for how good you are or how much money you give to a church its a heart thing that gets you there and God knows your heart."
You get to heaven by accepting Christ into your heart receiving eternal life in exchange for selling you soul into bondage and eternal submission.
"Because the reasons claiming God isn't real is more foolish than anything. "
Thats not a reason.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 Read matthew 21- 23 there are people who are so called christian who believe Jesus died on the cross for our sins which would technically give you eternal life in heaven but don't end up there. Selling your soul is just another foolish lie from the devil. Salvation is a free gift you just have to accept it. When you say you're a christian but enter the church to just make money or flirt with different women which still happens today theres a good chance you won't make it there.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 " Salvation is a free gift you just have to accept it. "
It is not free. You must agree to submit to God for all eternity no?
And btw, until God's existence can be proven, anything the Bible has to say on the divinity of christ or the afterlife is irrelevant.
"I'm not looking to debate a play on words"
It's not a play on words. Theory is based on known demonstrable verifiable FACTS. Whereas creation is at best a hypothesis and most likely just wishful thinking.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 Atheists tend to try and ignore things they deem not fair. Never listening to the whole story living in heaven for eternity if you think you're just sitting around in a big temple your conception is way way off. Thats typical though never looking through all the facts and just taking things at face value rather than looking deeper so you run and go a whole other way. The devil can lie to you. Theory: An idea (NOT FACT) used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 "Never listening to the whole story living in heaven for eternity if you think you're just sitting around in a big temple your conception is way way off. " You know this to be true how exactly?
"Something made from nothing then the fine tuning of the universe to make life sustainable for us to live"
The universe did not come from nothing. The fine tuning is a fallacy relying on the assumption that the universe was made for US. There is no indication that that is the case.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 "Thats typical though never looking through all the facts and just taking things at face value rather than looking deeper so you run and go a whole other way."
What facts? I repeat until God's existence can be proven, anything the Bible has to say on the divinity of christ or the afterlife is irrelevant.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 something rather than nothing then on top of that order from chaos also the proof Jesus is real and did die on the cross for our sins. Any true biblical scholar could tell you that Jesus did exist and they have on record document upon document of his existence. My job isn't to convert you just to give defense and argument for what i believe in. We could debate all day but you aren't the enemy its the devil. Hed rather have you in the dark and make you believe you're just an animal
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 "Any true biblical scholar could tell you that Jesus did exist and they have on record document upon document of his existence"
I didn't question his existence I question his divinity.
"Hed rather have you in the dark and make you believe you're just an animal"
I'm comfortable knowing that I'm an animal along with every other species on the planet. We do share the DNA.
I have to go to work now. ttyl
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 You can question his divinity in the documents the texts the eye witnesses of his resurrection. I don't doubt we share the same designer but the same DNA I don't believe we do. Believe it or not you're not just an animal if you were the moral values that come with being a person would be meaning less. You know right from wrong good from bad. Since we're on the subject do you think its moraly wrong for an animal to have sex with a different species of animal ?
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
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@HeroBidd0 "You can question his divinity in the documents the texts the eye witnesses of his resurrection.
There are no documented accounts of the ressurection outside of the bible.
"I don't doubt we share the same designer but the same DNA I don't believe we do"
You are mistaken.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 "Since we're on the subject do you think its moraly wrong for an animal to have sex with a different species of animal ?"
"Since we're on the subject do you think its moraly wrong for an animal to have sex with a different species of animal ?'
I don't know if this is possible.
Forced sex(rape, coercion etc.), cheating on ones spouse, sexual abuse of children I find morally abhorrent . I have no moral issues with what consenting adults wish to do sexually.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 So then you would have to admit that moral values do exist. Also if your wife decided to consent to have sexual relations with someone other than you, you wouldn't have a problem with that either?
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
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@HeroBidd0 "So then you would have to admit that moral values do exist.
Of course there are moral values without them groups of people would be unable to form cohesive communities.
That doesn't mean they are from a creator. Morals are not all the same from one culture to another
"Also if your wife decided to consent to have sexual relations with someone other than you, you wouldn't have a problem with that either?""
For the sake of argument no I would not have a problem.
hawklord2001 7 months ago
@hawklord2001 Something made from nothing then the fine tuning of the universe to make life sustainable for us to live then on top of that the evolutionary process to occur in the perfect conditions sounds more like wishful thinking than anything.
HeroBidd0 7 months ago
@HeroBidd0 You are essentially saying that because your will to not be objective with all the facts and reasoning presented, the belief in a non-physical entity that is not observable is true? The position is not "everything was created by nothing". This is logical. Belief in fantasy is not. Men are apes. Men and monkeys have a common ancestor and there are fossils to substantiate this scientific fact. Your lack of understanding doesnt reinforce your false claims simply because you dont know.
brittonvs 6 months ago
@brittonvs well i learned something from a testimony not too long ago. I can't force anyone to believe in what their heart doesn't want them to believe in that has to come from you to actually look at the evidence that even science claims. Quotes on how plausible the given situation would actually be. The universe had a beginning and also the fine tuning of it is too well done to be admissible as a mistake. Something does not come from nothing.. makes sense right? God bless
HeroBidd0 6 months ago
@HeroBidd0 Something doesnt come from nothing(=god,right?)That's a bit of a jump.Listen,by all means argue that a religious world is better than a non-religious,but don't try and tell us that science is proving god.You're talking nonsense.Hang on to your fine tuning if you like, but that(one of the remaining scientific mysteries in which religions cower)at best gets you to deism, NOT theism.Then you make the jump to(roughly)-this means Jesus DID rise for our sins(?).Pls understand the difference
TheDeuce2233 5 months ago
@TheDeuce2233 The bible is full of knowledge and truth Jesus did die for our sins please explain otherwise how we got here. You can't but you do have your it just happened at one point in time from nothing to something to evolution to us. Plenty of scientific quotes refuting evolution and the big bang. You don't truly try to ask and seek with an open heart you won't find God. You don't want to believe you can be saved that's fine good luck looking for "real answers". God bless
HeroBidd0 5 months ago
@HeroBidd0 You just denied evolution(a totally falsifiable explanation from 150 years ago which is as certain as ever) Then you said 'you don't truly ask and seek...you don't want to believe'. I'm not an unduly offensive man but these are the ramblings of an ignoramus. I am open to the possibility of god and very curious about 'how we got here'- but you are no wiser than me on this subject in that we both know nothing, as the evidence is absent,one of us doesn't pretend otherwise. More coming
TheDeuce2233 5 months ago