... watch?v=jeYPm8XzC3g 19:30 in . 'presuming this un-named FDNY engineer predicted the collapse time of WTC7 12.20pm 9/11, he/she must have known WHY a handful of random fires catapulted from WTC1's collapse should effect a universal collapse in 7 Q. did NIST fleece the US taxpayer by duplicating this un-named FDNY engineer's calculations with their 2008 WTC7 report?'
Dude great report but you missed out barry jennings?:) why do people not refer to him? He was in the building and was blown back by an explosion underneath him before both towers fell indicating that something other than the collapses of wtcs1,2 caused the fires.
Why do they abuse Truthers, why do they call them names. Is it because they don't like the truth. Do they not see how nist ignored many factors. REAL SCIENTISTS don't ignore any factors or possibilities as it can alter the results.If NIST had done a PROPER INVESTIGATION, then there wouldn't be any TRUTHERS on the internet. Most importantly, I hope no noe was hurt in building 7.
It also took nearly 2 years to even start the investigation despite its tremendous impact and repercussions. Compare this to the Pearl Harbor inquiry which was set up in ONE WEEK.
@NothingAtAllXD I know the truth it is simple terrorists hijacked 4 planes two flew into WTC1, 2 causing damage and fire that caused the collapse of the towers. WTC1 hit WTC7 causing fires and damage resulting in the collapse of WTC7. One plane flew into the Pentagon and the fourth one heros on board wrestled the controls away however the plane still crashed. Unfortunately you truther idiots don't really care enough to use facts or the truth to understand that. You moron.
@12weasel100 Lol you are deluded. NIST said no significant damage was caused to Building 7 from tower 1. Have you read NCSTAR? Now the fire was what blew out Column 79 and then resulted in a progressive to global collapse, all in accordance to NIST. "Use Facts." Right, I'm sorry I don't use "Facts." Everything the government says is a fact, as long as it is signed by Bush, NIST and the Mainstream Media. Hell if they came out tomorrow and said "2+2=5, this is a fact" you would believe them.
@12weasel100 I'm sorry I don't understand unsupported claims. I'm sorry I use historical precedents, empirical evidence and logic with reasoning when I get an explanation from anywhere, instead of pulling ideas out of my butt. Your pretzel logic is so saturated in delusions, you are beyond repair.
@NothingAtAllXD all truther arguments are unsupported claims that have no empirical evidence or logical reasoning. Truthers just pull deluded thoughts out of their assholes that is why you are a fucking idiot. You wrote a lot but had no facts to support any of your bullshit thoughts.
@12weasel100 You had no facts supporting your claims then. No sources for any of those claims! Bah! If you want to play that fucking game, go ahead. Mock me, we all know "bedunkers" regurgitate whatever they're told, so go ahead and contort what I just said. Of course you'll never cite anything that you say, that makes sense. This totally warrants that bedunkers constantly exercise double standards.
@NothingAtAllXD there are plenty of facts taht support you and all truthers are fucking idiots. All you need to do is go to any 911 vid and just read their bullshit responses that have no facts to support any of their statements. Most of it is outright lies the rest is speculation or opinion none of it is fact. That makes you and truthers fucking idiots.
@NothingAtAllXD I have provided you with sources. This video and your comments are good sources to support my factual conclusion. Also any 911 Truther website and You Tube video and all their comments are great sources that confirm my conclusion. There is more than enough proof to factually conclude that you and all truthers are fucking idiots. The fact that you make statements with no facts to support it also is fact that you are an idiot. Sorry dickhead but you have no facts you retard.
@12weasel100 Okay. I guess you don't need sources, but I do. You are so fucking pathetic. You make no fucking sense whatsoever. This further proves that you are continually exercising double-standards trying to look to uphold yourself to some sort of elitist position. Look, you already conceded that you cannot provide sources, so there's no point in fucking asking me for sources. Get the hell out. You have no argument whatsoever.
@NothingAtAllXD Again I have to repeat myself?? Your comments is a source. Your comments prove you are a fucking idiot. Truther comments on 911 vids are a source. Their bullshit lies and stupid little stories that have no bases in reality prove that truthers are a fucking idiot. The fact that you cannot understand that these are sources further proves how fucking stupid you are. You may think you have an argument but you have no facts to support it. You fucking idiot.
@keflar5 yeah I am sure you know this because you have the clearance to actually see these??? Yeah OK you deluded shit. Besides you fail to explain your statement. How is "gaint fused balls of steel" supposed to prove controlled demo when no controlled demo has ever produced this. You are just full of shit you moron.
@12weasel100 "Yeah sure you know this because blah blah blah cry whimper" LOOK CUNT if you had the fucking brain to know what your talking about you would have seen the fused steel ON DA TEWEVIZION lol fucking cowardly little bitch. The guy admits to bringing the building down and cunts like you foam at the mouth when someone asks a question, you have had your whole reality fed to you all your life so forgive me if i have ZERO respect for your ignorant unresearched drivel now go climb up a tree
@keflar5 Yeah sure you little CUNT if you had fucking brains you would use facts to clearly support your theories. All you have done is spewed out a bunch of bullshit lies. "The guy"'s statement was clearly explained it is sad you are still using that bullshit lie after 10 years. You have nothing to prove your bullshit you just clearly like to spew shit. You sad pathetic idiot.
@keflar5 you may claim that it is fact there was a fused ball of steel however it is FACT that no controlled demo ever produced fused balls of steel so you made a statement but fail to explain how it is supposed to prove your theory of controlled demo when no CD does what you are claiming. You fail to logically explain how your statement relates in anyway to controlled demo.
Try another bullshit lie you retard you fail to logically explain the one you just spewed out
@zenoist2 facts prove WTC7 did not fall at free fall. Only idiot truthers make that bullshit lie of a claim. Only idiots watching edited vids believe that bullshit. Pretty sad after 10 yrs you are still trying to use that sad arguement. WTC7 penthouse fell inwards starting collapse what you refer to is only the final secs when the outter shell no longer supported by the inner supports falls. Try making up new lies the ones you spewed out are old. You retard.
@12weasel100 Oh dear, what a nasty little turd you are, what a weasel in fact. Even NIST had to reluctantly concede that the building fell at free fall acceleration for over two seconds of the collapse. The outer shell was connected to the interior framing and could not have fallen separately. Try making up new lies, the bullshit you are spewing through your keyboard are old and fucking pathetic you cretin
@HardcoreJungFunk WTC7 did not completely fall at free fall speed. The penthouse clearly collapses first falling inward causing the internal structure to fall. The edited truther vids only show the final outter wall that is no longer supported collapsing. NIST also put in their final report that fire was the cause of collapse. Funny you quote a source but not the entire source. Funny you use a source that does not agree with you. You Truthers are a fucking dumb group of idiots.
@12weasel100 like I said NIST THEMSELVES said free-fall for 2.5 seconds on their final report on WTC7- that means no resistance below. Fire alone caused that? I dont think so. NIST avoided physical testing completely and relied on its crap computer model to support their collapse theory, they wont release the support data and model for independent verification, not exactly scientific eh?. Molten metal- ignored. NIST and nano-thermites- DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT WEASEL!
@HardcoreJungFunk and like I said NIST THEMSELVES concluded that fire caused the collapse of the buildings. Try reading and quoting entire sources not just little clips you think will fit into your tiny bullshit belief. and again with a reference to molten metal. That is a shit argument. How do you logically explain molten metal is supposed to be proof of controlled demo when controlled demo does not produce molten metals. I have done research it all proves you are a fucking idiot.
@12weasel100 "controlled demo does not produce molten metals" incorrect Einstein weasel- fire doesn't produce enough heat to melt steel does it ? So ask yourself what does? I'll give you a clue, nano-thermites -these are much more powerful than conventional thermite and are military grade.NIST didnt bother to test for the residue of thermites in the steel even though they were FULLY aware of nano-thermites themselves-they are experts in explosives- do some research and find out for yourself.
@HardcoreJungFunk "'controlled demo does not produce molten metals'-incorrect" so you are suggesting that CDs produce molten metals??? Really??? I have listed many steel framed structures that have collapsed due to fire how many CDs can you provide that have molten metal smoldering for weeks in the debris. You can't it does not happen in controlled demo (continued)
@12weasel100 "how many CDs can you provide that have molten metal smoldering for weeks in the debris" answer 3 on 9/11.Conventional thermite wouldn't, but nano-thermite WOULD.
Nano-thermite incendiaries were used, they produce much higher temperatures than ordinary thermite that would melt the steel. How many HIGH-RISE steel frame strucures have collapsed because of fire? Answer - 3 on 9/11.To understand you'll have to do more research instead of spewing " a bunch of shit"
@HardcoreJungFunk yeah well your response was typical pointless truther bullshit. You do have typical truther logic when asked for other CDs that had molten metal that would be comparable to WTC you use WTC as an example. Sorry retard you cannot compare what you are comparing to itself. I guess I have proven that you cannot provide any other controlled demos that ever turned to complete dust while producing molten metals. Thanks for proving what we already know that you are retard with no facts
@12weasel100 ha ha weasal debunker what the hell are you on about?So fire caused the collapse did it and the fires that burned for months after the collapse were from office furnishings were they?The point is the NIST final report on WTC7 was a fraud. They didn't test for explosive residue (even though they knew all about explosives themselves) as you should do in a PROPER investigation - that fact alone should at least make you suspicious - if not you are ignorant
@HardcoreJungFunk NIST did not test for explosives because there was no need to. Nothing indicated that explosives were used. All indication and on site statements clearly pointed to fire being the cause of collapse. Research and facts support that it was fire that caused the collapse.Anyway you still fail to logically explain your bullshit statements using facts and examples. You fail you retard.
@12weasel100 "NIST did not test for explosives because there was no need to. Nothing indicated that explosives were used." You are kidding, right? I believe that testing for explosives would be standard protocol. Especially after the BOMBS in 1993! Chunks of the WTC found 5 blocks away would indicate explosives. Not to mention statements from many that were there of explosions. NIST found the cause of the collapses to be from fires only because that is all they looked for! Wake up
@Tricky1ish there were also statements from professionals on site that clearly made statements like the building is in trouble. The buildings are leaning and we cannot save them. It is no a matter if the building will fall but when. Seems you clearly chose to ignore those statements and substitute in yours because the others clearly conflict with your bullshit. Nothing you state is any fact that proves your bullshit. You moron.
@12weasel100 LMAO! I did, in fact listen to statements that claimed the buildings were in trouble. But I find it odd how they came into play much later than those that claimed they heard explosions. Also, if the buildings were "leaning", wouldn't logic tell you that they would fall the way they were supposedly "leaning"? The simple facts that there were claims of explosions and the 1993 bombs, should have lead NIST to investigate for bombs not just fires that caused the collapses!
@Tricky1ish LMAO the statements that claim the building was in trouble "came into play" at the time the firefighters were watching the actual fire and the building actually leaning. Based on your statements then your supposed "bombs" would have had to occur before this. Which leads to the question then how would you logically explain "bombs" indictaing "charges" going off before this but the building still stands for 7 hours instead of falling within secs like a controlled demo would. You retard
@HardcoreJungFunk (continued) and your reference to thermite being the cause is pure bullshit. Had thermite been used (it wasn't but I will pretend) had it been used it would have been on the columns so it would have been dispersed randomly over a large area like the columns not found in a molten pool. Also thermite cools quickly it would not be found molten weeks later. You have just spew out a bunch of shit but failed in any logical way of explaining it you retard.
@12weasel100 " thermite/ thermate cools quickly it would not be found molten weeks later."thats BS - It contains its own supply of oxygen, and does not require any external source such as air. Consequently, it cannot be smothered and may ignite in any environment, given sufficient initial heat. It will burn just as well while underwater, for example, and cannot even be extinguished with water, as water sprayed on a thermite reaction will instantly be boiled into steam
@HardcoreJungFunk (continued) and I have already proven you wrong about your little thermite bullshit lie. It was never found. Also by your logic thermate would be used on columns therefore it would be dispersed randomly like the columns not found in a pool. Also thermite/ thermate cools quickly it would not be found molten weeks later. Typical truther when your first lie is revealed you make up another illogically lie instead of facing reality. Reality is you have no facts you moron.
@CalumGilhooly yeah nice response you moron you had no facts to prove anything you stated. You have only proven what we already know you are just a fucking idiot spewing out the same old shit that has been proven wrong along time ago. You clearly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about you retard.
I want every democrat to realize that Obama is lying just the same. It is time for you to switch the libertarian party, and do it fast. Otherwise we will wake up homeless on a continent our four fathers conquered.
The building was brought down by uncontrolled raging fires weakening the steel and destroying the core of the building so when it actually fell, it was only the outer shell you saw falling. These fires lasted an estimated 7 hours. Long enough for all of the damage on the inside of the building to occur. Steel expanded, weakened, and failed leaving a hollow center. It's as simple as that.
I am calling you on the thermite. There is no way that thermite was used to destroy any of those towers. Why is it that when the towers were hit that the thermite was not activated seeing that fire ignites it? Then one of the towers fell on top of tower 7 causing huge gaping holes and fires. Why didn't the fires destroy the building 7 right away? Thermite is used up on seconds and cannot cut through steel the size of the beams inside those buildings. Prove me wrong with science.
@rangers94ism , lol, watch video of thermite cutting through steel! I dare you! you have obviously never heard of cutter/shape charge? BTW I agree about the beams in #7, they were some of the "strongest ever" used in a NYC building construction.
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 You need a lot of Thermate to do that. How did they put them in place with no one knowing? Who did it and how did they do it? Warcrime911 is full of crap. There was no conspiracy. Please produce evidence based on reality and not what's in your head. You have nothing because there is nothing.
@rangers94ism , "You have nothing,"? cutter charges are real! and did I say they used cutter charges? p.s. derp. 2 or more highjackers flying jets into buildings is a conspiracy! so you're lying, there was a conspiracy. prove there wasn't! time to come back to reality.. lol
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 I know that cutter charges are real, but there is no evidence for it at all. Where are the charges? And you still didn't answer who put the charges in there. You would need thousands of demolition experts and months to place those charges with no one noticing. That sounds stupid, why should I believe that story? And obviously I was talking about a US government conspiracy. This was an attack from Al Qaeda. That's it. Bush did not do it.
@rangers94ism , Again> Did I say cutter charges were used? or did I say they are real, and can cut through steel? all I said is it is possible! p.s. al-cia-da did do it! LoL I never said they didn't!
@admiralPs Thanks for your comment. I read both NIST Reports on WTC7 and WTC1 and WTC2. (did you?) You can rely on a 9 minute "real 9/11" youtube video to make up your opinion on this subject or actually spend time and read the reports. Minor inconsistency are expected in a report of this size but don't mean it's a conspiracy. I would be more suspicious if a report of this size was flawless.
hey buddy ---even if proven true by science that 9-11 was caused by explosives in all three buildings, it doesn't matter because most americans have too much faith in their government to believe science could ever prove their government was lying to them.
it is called faith-faith in god-gov-authority generally, and it negates truth by definiton.
stop chasing the truth, the big lie has already won. the fight for truth is now obsolete. it will not change anything , people are sheep
And what are your credentials in analyzing this report? Were you personally familiar with the SECs' meeting rooms? Had you been to that floor? You dont know what was in that room. Why are you lying? You must be in on some conspiracy!!!! WHERES MY HAT!
@MrTobytat2 Excuse me? Are you saying that NO ONE who JUST READS the floor plans and maps, can be QUALIFIED to understand them unless they had actually been in the building? Or are you suggesting that the SEC meeting room was filled with kerosene?
@FreedumbFighter28 Yes, excuse you. Yes, I am saying that no one who just reads the floor plans and maps can be qualified to state what is actually IN those rooms. Its not surprising you idiot "truthers" latch onto any bullshit and then make baseless assumptions. Tell me, are you or are you not personally familiar with what was in that room? Your false dilemma is LAUGHABLE.
@MrTobytat2 Than how did NIST come up with what was in the room? They couldnt even figure out what floor it was on. hahaha NO ONE who worked on the report, had EVER worked inside that building.
Nor were interviews conducted to asses what was in the room with workers.
Are you saying that there could have been something in the meeting room that would burn hot enough to burn through the fireproofing and weaken the steel in 1 1/2 hours as NIST claims. If so, how do YOU know.
@FreedumbFighter28 Hello? Do you speak English? WTF didnt you understand about my post? Im not the one claiming there was or was not something flammable enough to weaken steel. YOU are the one claiming that there wasnt something in the room when you have no idea. You pointing out their assumptions doesnt make your assumptions any more valid. Let me know if you need this explained further. Im always happy to educate a "truther"
All you have done is admit NISTs report is inadequate. I cannot say what was in the room. TRUE. However, there is no known office supplies, that the firecode identifies, that could cause heat strong enough to weaken steel, to cause a symetrical collapse...in just 1 1/2 hours
As I remember, the NIST steel test showed that they couldnt do it in 6 hours,under perfect conditions.
FOIA tapes
Maybe if they looked for some sort of exotic accelerant, as per the fire code,we woudnt be having this talk
sorry,if some sheep here still believe that NIST explained the wtc7 collapse, watch this:
watch?v=ArnYryJqCwU
See that in 2008 Shyam Sunder from NIST said "the public should really recognize the science is really behind what we have said" and "the obvious stares you in the face" LOL!
I really don't want to fight with debunkers that only can insult,but never give answers,I only want to be sure that everybody know that the biggest part of wtc was SOLD after 9/11 ,before analysis, in a very fast cover-up operation.This is another unbelievable fact,a theory for somebody.U can read the article here:
Much Respect for your video and the work you've done.
I think every citizen should aim to this kind involvement, otherwise we may wake up one day and realize that we are slaves, and the country is no more by the people for the people.
/watch?v=HvAJQnUJUVY&feature=related in this YT it is claimed a FDNY engineer calculated the collapse of 7 at appx' 12.15pm 911 as "five hours" They don't give his/her name or his/her calculations but if this claim was true the NIST WTC7 report released 2008 would have been a redundant duplicate and waste of public money.
At the minimum, someone belongs in jail for destroying all that evidence. Someone made the call, who? The same guy that told Cheney the plane is 50 miles out, the plane is 40 miles out, do the orders still stand? Or the A/V guy at the school that had the TV all hooked up in the hallway, so bush could watch the first plane hit the tower? And, Obama is the conspirator, for failing to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed". He's helping to obstruct justice.
Where are all the debunkers now? Cointelpro knows well enough what specific sites to stay away from. There are too many technical points that this man destroys for the debunkers to make a coherent argument here so they stay away.
3:10: Bullshit. Every place I've ever worked, the 'meeting room' had at least one big table (made of wood), and jammed with chairs, paper, marker boards and all kinds of stuff that can burn. 'Sparsely furnished' my ass.
@DevSodDribble I think the point is that NIST grossly over exaggerated the fuels loads. Even a wooden table will not burn for 3-4 hours and this is the timeframe they say was needed to cause the structural failure. This 3-4 hours was needed because of the fire proofing that existed in the building that a table fire would not overcome.
By their own admission the fuel loads could only sustain a fire from 20-32 minutes in any given place but they needed to overcome the fireproofing.
@DevSodDribble that kind of room WOULD be classed as low combustion. We have an area that has a butane tank that powers fire doors; that would be classed as higher combustion: a welders workshop would be higher still: and an army barracks weapons cache would be even higher.
"you would need over a hundred pounds of thermite placed directly against the pillar"
Wrong, this has been disproven by Jonathan Cole..google him and you will see it takes less then 5 lbs to cut through a column. And this was home made thermate, not military grade nano thermite.
This video itself is misleading. You say the only reason they ruled out thermite was because of they way it is used to cut but you did not address that they said you would need over a hundred pounds of thermite placed directly against the pillar. Just for fun. Who are we going to charge with destroying of the WTC's? There is nothing close to being usable courtroom evidence. NO eyewitness of bombs being planted or the such. Build a REAL courtroom case for me.
Do you know how many people would have to be involved for it to be an "inside job?" The people who planted tons explosives or thermite without anyone noticing, the people who organized the attacks, the people who remotely flew the planes, the people who prepared the planes for remote flying, the security guards who ignored everything, everyone at NIST, everyone else who investigated it, people in the media, etc. And what about the people who were asked to help but refused? Please respond.
@TimothyRaymond1 Hmm lets see, about the same in the manhattan project? maybe the invasion of normandy? perhaps pearl harbour, maybe area 51? Seems there are alot of things that have been or are still being kept fairly secret from us. Thermite could ahve been painted on, security guards themselves told it was just upgrades, the planes well im sure a hand ful of people could rig those, NIST well they just had to come up with a story the average person couldn't argue with..nuff said
@lexicon008 The people involved in the Manhattan Project knew they were not going to be killing thousands of Americans. Area 51 in out in the middle of nowhere where it is easy to keep secret. If 9/11 was an "inside job" everything would have to have been prepared in the middle of the largest city in the United States without anyone noticing. And everyone involved would had to have been fine with killing thousands of Americans.
@TimothyRaymond1 Oh please, there are documented episodes of the military infecting americans with live deadly viruses, spraying viruses and bacteria over civilian populations in america, irradiating children and others for nuclear tests, do you honestly think this is not out of bounds?
The government kills it's own citizens all the times. It's delusional to think that they would somehow have a conscience here if they are trying to acheive a political end.
At 5:08 the narrator of this video claims that nanothermite can be used to cut vertical columns, but does not provide any source or proof to back it up. How "Criminally" Unscientific Can You Get?.
This video is now officially debunked. No need to thank me.
aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, no. If buildings in New York collapse that easy, why would anyone with a brain work in them. Buildings in New York collapse far to easy to be safe for human occupation. ....or maybe these buildings had committed sins and were being punished by God. lol ...Inside Job.
And NIST still never explained the total collapse in their "final" report! They admit free-fall acceleration, but don't alter their conclusion! Amazing and criminal lack of scientific method! We owe the 343 firefighters who died that day a much better explanation than NIST's pathetic failure. NIST does not support scientific proof by virtue of its secret computer modeling. To be scientifically correct, they would have to supply others with this model to be proven by repeatability. But no!
Dude how about slowing down your fucking slide show, it gave me a headache trying to watch that cascade of flashing images. Other than that thanks, interesting food for thought.
In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. This building's collapse alone resulted in a profit of about $500 million.
@sychophantt Yeah so he got people to hijack the planes? For the insurance money lol like Silverstein even fucking needs the insurance money he was already a fucking millionaire but hey I bet you have a website you got that from and i bet it has a cool movie with mood music.....your a sheep
Wow. You just debunked everything ! Larry Silverstein was about to lose hundreds of millions in maintenence costs on all three towers. A millionaire? LOL he was much more than a millionaire. You are fucking stupid LOL !!. The greedy are greedy. They never have enough money and power. And it wasnt just Silverstein profiting off this you absolute moron. You are clueless.
Yep. One of the largest gold deposits in the world was under the WTC and there are eye witness accounts from local security of large hauling trucks and heavily armed guards under the WTC are the collapse.
It there any evidence that the Power down was in the whole building? Many new yorker's must have seen this because of the lights must have all went off! Normal power off's are separated in sections in a building, this would be a real evidence!
The "raging inferno" as it is depicted on page 383 would have literally flame-broiled every last ounce of human flesh on the north half of floors6 or 7 through 13 or 14. In other words, no one would have survived the kind of fire they claim was concentrated in this area.
Why don't proponents of the official WTC7 collapse story take NIST's WTC7 data, adapt it to another building due for demolition and effect an identical CD style near perfect symmetrical collapse? (good work WarCrime911, do NIST explain the intermitant mystery smoke without fire of different shades pouring from the entirity of 7's windward side throughout 911 before its collapse at 5.25pm NY time or the incongruously small seismic reading for all that freefalling steel and concrete?)
The mainstream 9/11 propaganda relies on people not caring or not investigating the facts. They rely on people being stupid and gullible, just believing the Government because that's what they think everyone else believes. There are all sorts of ways to irrationalize and disassociate people from looking into something. I can't wait to post some examples for you.
Go perform some chemical tests of WTC Dust and maybe we'll believe you... Until then, keep calling yourself a "debunker".. lol LIAR!
@WarCrime911 I thought the "9/11 truth" movement was dead... its just not sexy anymore no one cares except you and your little group of fringe basement dwellers...
@Amsterdam819 hahaha its u who is asleep. and slumbering. 3500 architects and engineers. 250 pilots. and a whole bunch of people that are more intelligent than u. and they all advocate truth note lies like the goverment
@WarCrime911@MsgtSpook Go to rememberbuilding7DOTorg Its a organization made up of family members that lost loved ones on that day along with over 1400 Architects and engineers that say the way building 7 came down was physically imposable.Anyone who knows about this organization or that is just now finding out about it please give this comment a thumbs up to help spread awareness of there existence.
@WarCrime911 YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVE SOMETHING TRUE IN ORDER TO PROVE SOMETHING ELSE WRONG!!! This is good objective analysis! Who you call a liar? JUST IMAGINE what it would it would cause if it was just declared to the public that the official explanations can (by far!!!) not be true and therefore something else must have been happening! This would be a huge embarrassment for the US government! And this would just set the ball rolling!
BTW: There has already been found Nanothermite pieces in the WTC dust and this has been confirmed by some independent scientists. (Dr. Steven Jones, Dr. Niels Harrit)
you keep saying explosives but you cant even explain to me how they were put in there in the first place. all you did was prove that thermite can cut through steel. your not proving a damn thing and your ignoring the fact that you have no evidence to prove explosives were even used. idk how long you can keep doing this...or maybe youll throw another theory at me to make up for the fact that you cant back up what you say. or call me a child again. which is it?
@infoseeker264 no, i never said that. you just made an insinuation as to what i said. but you guys always make assumptions about everything so i dont mind.
NIST made the assumption that no explosives were used, and based that on audio evidence, instead of thorough chemical examination of physical evidence.
It was a COVER-UP, run and instituted through Defense Department Contractor SAIC. You idiots think you can murder 3,000 people and get away with it, well not in America! We will never stop investigating and exposing you for what you have done. Don't you get it? We're cutting massive holes through your "Debunker" safety net.
all 3 buildings fell "inwards" on themselves! even the one that wasn't hit and damaged (WTC7) - no buildings that have ever collapsed b4 have ever done that! - that's enough evidence for me that this was not a real, accidental collapse but a planned and organised operation .
@Thetan1974 all your doing is back peddling because you cant prove how thermate was put in the world trade centers so your trying to distract me from my question. if you cant prove your point then your done
I don't need to prove how it got in there. Nano-thermite has been scientifically proven to have been in the WTC dust/debris and thermite is what would have made the eutectic steel. Not fires or air plane impacts.
You're the lunatic that thinks that not knowing how nano-thermite was brought into the building is at the same time evidence of the OCT.
@Thetan1974 ok, but you cant tell me how thermate/thermite was put int he twin towers can you? also, what traces were found to suggest that nano-thermite was used?
@Thetan1974 if your going to use it as evidence then i want to hear from you what traces were found. stop hiding behind evidence already found and actually start proving your points
Well, you said 767's and office fires by aviation fuel was used, isn't that correct? YOU SAID THAT. If not, you admit that the NIST Report is good for nothing. How does that feel?
If you don't think that the Bentham report confirms your need of "traces craze," you can PM me with your name and I'll provide you with Niels Harrit - one of the authors of the nano-thermite report's - email. He'll answer your traces question. But noone can explain excactly how it was used.
@Thetan1974 i didnt mention shit about my 767's are you HIGH? now your just making up shit. and no one can explain how it was used because it WASNT USED. and you cant explain the traces found because you being the fucking sheep you are will believe whatever the fuck alex jones tells you. you can prove shit and your back peddleing to other things to try to prove a point that you clearly dont have in the first place
You think that 9/11 was an inside job made by terrorists. That would mean that what the NIST Report explain about 767's, office fires and the 3 towers is true.
To believe that you'd have to be high. Are you high?
Ah, no, that's right, Nano-thermite just occurs regularly when building collapses and couldn't possibly have anything to do with the super high tech black op demolition.
Only a new investigation would prove how nano-thermite was used. That it's covered up how it was braught in or how it was used does not endorse the OCT.
Nano-thermite has been cinfirmed and it should NOT have beem there. Pretty much proof of it haveing some role in the demolition.
you want to say you exposed the nist report and they "lied" but the truth you have a bias that makes you think in one direction all the time, and i cant take your video seriously because of it.
@Zero2Legend, My bias is towards investigating 9/11 as a crime scene and analyzing the evidence scientifically. Maybe the evidence I have come across has been too pursuasive to me that it is an inside job. But if it wasn't what harm does it cause for me to think that it was and begin investigating it as such.
There are the others who are so biased against this that they will make up excuses for not dealing with it...
@WarCrime911 there no harm in finding out the facts for yourself. but you already decided in your head what your going to believe based on your video and any evidence you find or have found you will simply wrap around your already perceived notion as to what you think actually happened. your sound like every other conspiracy theorist that didnt do any real research as to what happened and your repeating the same shit thats been said for years but had to be revamped because of all the debunking
I very much thank the REAL debunkers for doing there part in helping to solidify and strengthen the arguments of 9/11 Truth Movement. There are also the liars who pose as debunkers because they are too afraid of paranoid to believe that there Government could do such a thing. In way I'd like to thank them too, because if it weren't for them I never would have started making any videos at all. Overall, debunking has strengthened the movement, not hurt it.
@WarCrime911 liars who pose as debunkers? once again your just showing how paranoid you all are of everything including the government. you cant even trust your own people let alone the government. stop proving the REAL debunkers case already your embarrassing yourselves...also, your movement is pretty much dead, no one except paranoid delusional people give in to your theories. you know like the people who believe in lizard people and the jews are really out to get us? thats hilarious
It seems that you're the excact type that cannot believe that branches of the US government could be part of this. It's not WarCrime911 who's paranoid - it's you who're the fake, lying debunker who actually speak BS in order to convince YOURSELF that 9/11 wasn't an inside job; If 9/11 truthers were as ridiculous as a mad, long haired and -bearded guy in the side of the road wit a "The End Is Near!" sign, why would you even pay attention to them?
@Thetan1974 no, its called common sense guy. and im not the one deluding myself of anything. the govenment cant cover up a blowjob, let alone a "conspiracy". i dont know what else to tell you other than that. i hear the same thing from other truthers and they even guote parts of the nist report that your "movement" hates so much to try and prove some of there points (and fail miserably), making you hypocritical...and just dumb.
It's called common sense that only a few poeple have the ability to act the little boy who discovered that the emperor's clothes weren't there and that history repeats itself.
You're the one deluting that Bin Laden knocked down three steel framed skyscrapers with 2 planes and that that should be resaon for violating the constitution and rob the US population trillions of their tax $'s to keep "al-Qaeda" from running around in Americans back yards.
And of course you had to bring up lizard people and "the jooos" theories in order to make yourself convinced that that has to di with main 9/11 truthing. Try and look at the SCIENCE which disprooves the NIST Report and the witnesses and the true narrative which confirms the perhaps biggest cover up in history and a criminal way of "investigating" according to the US Constitution.
@Thetan1974 the nist report will have flaws because of the inaccurate data that was taken and the second guessing like any other report, but youll take it that way because you really want to believe that the government is evil. there fore you have a bias and i cant take you seriously on that.
The NIST Report will have flaws because it's biased "science" that was ordered by the Bush administration to come up with a fire hypothesis and not the truth about what happened to the towers by deniyng e.g molten steel and not testing for explosives.
I can simply note by using my eyes and ears that people superior to and controlling the US government are pure lying evil. You're the loser who now has to sit and "discuss" with the Bigfooters to stay out of the nearest nut house.
Another act of the "self protective psychology" that guys like you have to spew in order to make your pityfull Disney World safer. Like a kid plugging his fingers in his ears going "NA NA NA NA NA NAAAAA!" in order to not listen to what his parents tell him.
The movement is only growing - and staying more focused. Away from the "Bush did it! (alone)" or "There was no plane at the Pentagon!" headlines of 2002-2006.
@Thetan1974 and no, im thinking this way to keep myself from becoming a paranoid delusional cynic that thinks the world is out to get him. there really is no movement to begin with, and it was a mistake to call it that in the first place. once all the teenagers and others that joined get bored of this "exciting revelation that the government wants to destroy the world and only they can stop it"you guys have created they'll move on to other things.
"and no, im thinking this way to keep myself from becoming a paranoid delusional cynic that thinks the world is out to get him."
That's excactly my point! How about joining the normal people who leaves conspiracy nuts alone, then? Or go see a doctor and tell him that now you can't live a normal life because you have to constantly discuss with 9/11 truthers to keep yourself from getting insane?
@Thetan1974 uhh, you responded to my comments THREE TIMES. your going to tell me to get help when i didnt say shit to you before that? here's an idea, dont respond to me with THREE COMMENTS and dont share your opinion or "facts" with someone that clearly didn't ask you in the first place. are you retarded? your going to tell me to leave you alone when your responding to me? you need to get your head checked
I didn't ask you to leave me alone. It was an advise if you want to look normal. Please stay and let me make a mockery of you for the audience. It's my hobby.
"The government couldn't cover a blow job."
The government WANTS it to look like it couldn't cover a god damn blow job in order to make you think so robotically gullible, that if they couldn't "cover" that, they certainly couldn't be behind 9/11.
@Thetan1974 see there you go again lol leave the poor people alone and look normal? take your own advice. telling me that your making ME look bad while saying the government is controlling me and trying to tell me to act normal when you spout off about the government wants me to think a certain way? goodness man, you are all sorts of fucked up, i hope you think your embarrassing me because your not accomplishing anything else but looking crazy
Philip Zelikow and Kissinger, masters behind the curtain, covered up both explosives/bomb witnesses and molten steel witnesses. They piss on honorable Americans who had their working boots melting from walking in that shit.
Zelikow and Kissinger C-O-V-E-R-E-D- I-T U-P. Get it? We're not talking about something far more serious than a f*cking blow job, and they C-O-V-E-R-E-D I-T U-P!
@Thetan1974 like really, in your head you think your putting me in my place by telling me to leave you guys alone when your the ones commenting on MY COMMENTS. i didnt say shit to you or anyone else until you started making retarded ass comments. your making yourself look bad by being a complete hypocrite in the first place. you want to be normal? then stop making yourself look like a fucking tool
You keep on believing that powerful men like Zelikow - who contracted the RC'd Boeings that were obviously used for this "Op. Northwoods version 2001" - can't cover up their own black ops.
You keep on believing that Bin Laden is alive and behind 9/11.
And you keep on believing, that I ever told you to leave me alone.
God damn, you truly need to call your doctor with those illusions.
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... watch?v=jeYPm8XzC3g 19:30 in . 'presuming this un-named FDNY engineer predicted the collapse time of WTC7 12.20pm 9/11, he/she must have known WHY a handful of random fires catapulted from WTC1's collapse should effect a universal collapse in 7 Q. did NIST fleece the US taxpayer by duplicating this un-named FDNY engineer's calculations with their 2008 WTC7 report?'
TODB0AMER 2 days ago
Nist is pist
Mi37591 3 weeks ago in playlist WTC 7
Dude great report but you missed out barry jennings?:) why do people not refer to him? He was in the building and was blown back by an explosion underneath him before both towers fell indicating that something other than the collapses of wtcs1,2 caused the fires.
RickAstley56 1 month ago
like the name "truther" is an insult lol
lostmotate 1 month ago
Why do they abuse Truthers, why do they call them names. Is it because they don't like the truth. Do they not see how nist ignored many factors. REAL SCIENTISTS don't ignore any factors or possibilities as it can alter the results.If NIST had done a PROPER INVESTIGATION, then there wouldn't be any TRUTHERS on the internet. Most importantly, I hope no noe was hurt in building 7.
benjyboba 1 month ago
lol why do 9/11 debates always turn into name calling and bickering.?
Uruckingfetard22 1 month ago
2:17 - 2:55
Whoever caught that... bravo.
UniversityofSteve 1 month ago
Look into NIST's connections with nano-thermites.They were FULLY aware of its potential
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
It also took nearly 2 years to even start the investigation despite its tremendous impact and repercussions. Compare this to the Pearl Harbor inquiry which was set up in ONE WEEK.
Not much difference eh?
zenoist2 2 months ago
Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 3 months ago
@12weasel100 I'm sorry you don't want to look for truth. Being negatively stigmatized for searching for truth is such a terrible thing to do.
NothingAtAllXD 2 months ago
@NothingAtAllXD I know the truth it is simple terrorists hijacked 4 planes two flew into WTC1, 2 causing damage and fire that caused the collapse of the towers. WTC1 hit WTC7 causing fires and damage resulting in the collapse of WTC7. One plane flew into the Pentagon and the fourth one heros on board wrestled the controls away however the plane still crashed. Unfortunately you truther idiots don't really care enough to use facts or the truth to understand that. You moron.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 Lol you are deluded. NIST said no significant damage was caused to Building 7 from tower 1. Have you read NCSTAR? Now the fire was what blew out Column 79 and then resulted in a progressive to global collapse, all in accordance to NIST. "Use Facts." Right, I'm sorry I don't use "Facts." Everything the government says is a fact, as long as it is signed by Bush, NIST and the Mainstream Media. Hell if they came out tomorrow and said "2+2=5, this is a fact" you would believe them.
NothingAtAllXD 2 months ago
@12weasel100 I'm sorry I don't understand unsupported claims. I'm sorry I use historical precedents, empirical evidence and logic with reasoning when I get an explanation from anywhere, instead of pulling ideas out of my butt. Your pretzel logic is so saturated in delusions, you are beyond repair.
NothingAtAllXD 2 months ago
@NothingAtAllXD all truther arguments are unsupported claims that have no empirical evidence or logical reasoning. Truthers just pull deluded thoughts out of their assholes that is why you are a fucking idiot. You wrote a lot but had no facts to support any of your bullshit thoughts.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 You had no facts supporting your claims then. No sources for any of those claims! Bah! If you want to play that fucking game, go ahead. Mock me, we all know "bedunkers" regurgitate whatever they're told, so go ahead and contort what I just said. Of course you'll never cite anything that you say, that makes sense. This totally warrants that bedunkers constantly exercise double standards.
NothingAtAllXD 2 months ago
@NothingAtAllXD there are plenty of facts taht support you and all truthers are fucking idiots. All you need to do is go to any 911 vid and just read their bullshit responses that have no facts to support any of their statements. Most of it is outright lies the rest is speculation or opinion none of it is fact. That makes you and truthers fucking idiots.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 Lol. Still no sources for those claims. Show me some sources and facts instead of your speculation to warrant that argument.
NothingAtAllXD 2 months ago
@NothingAtAllXD I have provided you with sources. This video and your comments are good sources to support my factual conclusion. Also any 911 Truther website and You Tube video and all their comments are great sources that confirm my conclusion. There is more than enough proof to factually conclude that you and all truthers are fucking idiots. The fact that you make statements with no facts to support it also is fact that you are an idiot. Sorry dickhead but you have no facts you retard.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 Okay. I guess you don't need sources, but I do. You are so fucking pathetic. You make no fucking sense whatsoever. This further proves that you are continually exercising double-standards trying to look to uphold yourself to some sort of elitist position. Look, you already conceded that you cannot provide sources, so there's no point in fucking asking me for sources. Get the hell out. You have no argument whatsoever.
NothingAtAllXD 2 months ago
@NothingAtAllXD Again I have to repeat myself?? Your comments is a source. Your comments prove you are a fucking idiot. Truther comments on 911 vids are a source. Their bullshit lies and stupid little stories that have no bases in reality prove that truthers are a fucking idiot. The fact that you cannot understand that these are sources further proves how fucking stupid you are. You may think you have an argument but you have no facts to support it. You fucking idiot.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 There are giant fused balls of steel in hangers that no one is allowed to test FACT
keflar5 2 months ago
@keflar5 yeah I am sure you know this because you have the clearance to actually see these??? Yeah OK you deluded shit. Besides you fail to explain your statement. How is "gaint fused balls of steel" supposed to prove controlled demo when no controlled demo has ever produced this. You are just full of shit you moron.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 "Yeah sure you know this because blah blah blah cry whimper" LOOK CUNT if you had the fucking brain to know what your talking about you would have seen the fused steel ON DA TEWEVIZION lol fucking cowardly little bitch. The guy admits to bringing the building down and cunts like you foam at the mouth when someone asks a question, you have had your whole reality fed to you all your life so forgive me if i have ZERO respect for your ignorant unresearched drivel now go climb up a tree
keflar5 2 months ago
@keflar5 Yeah sure you little CUNT if you had fucking brains you would use facts to clearly support your theories. All you have done is spewed out a bunch of bullshit lies. "The guy"'s statement was clearly explained it is sad you are still using that bullshit lie after 10 years. You have nothing to prove your bullshit you just clearly like to spew shit. You sad pathetic idiot.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 You questioned the fused ball of steel FACT
Proof of fused steel is easy to find on the net and it is well documented even by NIST itself FACT
You start crying again like an exhausted child which is what you are and pretend you didn't type something provably false lol FACT
Weasel BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA EVEN YOU KNOW YOUR A RODENT
keflar5 2 months ago
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12weasel100 2 months ago
@keflar5 you may claim that it is fact there was a fused ball of steel however it is FACT that no controlled demo ever produced fused balls of steel so you made a statement but fail to explain how it is supposed to prove your theory of controlled demo when no CD does what you are claiming. You fail to logically explain how your statement relates in anyway to controlled demo.
Try another bullshit lie you retard you fail to logically explain the one you just spewed out
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 Ok show me facts explaining the free fall of wtc7..
PS dont look at the official report.
its a total mystery to NIST as it would be if you rely on fire and rubble damage alone.
No matter how much they load the official story it still wont go at all.
zenoist2 2 months ago
@zenoist2 facts prove WTC7 did not fall at free fall. Only idiot truthers make that bullshit lie of a claim. Only idiots watching edited vids believe that bullshit. Pretty sad after 10 yrs you are still trying to use that sad arguement. WTC7 penthouse fell inwards starting collapse what you refer to is only the final secs when the outter shell no longer supported by the inner supports falls. Try making up new lies the ones you spewed out are old. You retard.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 Oh dear, what a nasty little turd you are, what a weasel in fact. Even NIST had to reluctantly concede that the building fell at free fall acceleration for over two seconds of the collapse. The outer shell was connected to the interior framing and could not have fallen separately. Try making up new lies, the bullshit you are spewing through your keyboard are old and fucking pathetic you cretin
CalumGilhooly 2 months ago
@12weasel100 NIST said free-fall for 2.5 seconds in their final report on WTC7
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk WTC7 did not completely fall at free fall speed. The penthouse clearly collapses first falling inward causing the internal structure to fall. The edited truther vids only show the final outter wall that is no longer supported collapsing. NIST also put in their final report that fire was the cause of collapse. Funny you quote a source but not the entire source. Funny you use a source that does not agree with you. You Truthers are a fucking dumb group of idiots.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 like I said NIST THEMSELVES said free-fall for 2.5 seconds on their final report on WTC7- that means no resistance below. Fire alone caused that? I dont think so. NIST avoided physical testing completely and relied on its crap computer model to support their collapse theory, they wont release the support data and model for independent verification, not exactly scientific eh?. Molten metal- ignored. NIST and nano-thermites- DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT WEASEL!
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk and like I said NIST THEMSELVES concluded that fire caused the collapse of the buildings. Try reading and quoting entire sources not just little clips you think will fit into your tiny bullshit belief. and again with a reference to molten metal. That is a shit argument. How do you logically explain molten metal is supposed to be proof of controlled demo when controlled demo does not produce molten metals. I have done research it all proves you are a fucking idiot.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 "controlled demo does not produce molten metals" incorrect Einstein weasel- fire doesn't produce enough heat to melt steel does it ? So ask yourself what does? I'll give you a clue, nano-thermites -these are much more powerful than conventional thermite and are military grade.NIST didnt bother to test for the residue of thermites in the steel even though they were FULLY aware of nano-thermites themselves-they are experts in explosives- do some research and find out for yourself.
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk "'controlled demo does not produce molten metals'-incorrect" so you are suggesting that CDs produce molten metals??? Really??? I have listed many steel framed structures that have collapsed due to fire how many CDs can you provide that have molten metal smoldering for weeks in the debris. You can't it does not happen in controlled demo (continued)
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 "how many CDs can you provide that have molten metal smoldering for weeks in the debris" answer 3 on 9/11.Conventional thermite wouldn't, but nano-thermite WOULD.
Nano-thermite incendiaries were used, they produce much higher temperatures than ordinary thermite that would melt the steel. How many HIGH-RISE steel frame strucures have collapsed because of fire? Answer - 3 on 9/11.To understand you'll have to do more research instead of spewing " a bunch of shit"
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk O
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk yeah well your response was typical pointless truther bullshit. You do have typical truther logic when asked for other CDs that had molten metal that would be comparable to WTC you use WTC as an example. Sorry retard you cannot compare what you are comparing to itself. I guess I have proven that you cannot provide any other controlled demos that ever turned to complete dust while producing molten metals. Thanks for proving what we already know that you are retard with no facts
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 ha ha weasal debunker what the hell are you on about?So fire caused the collapse did it and the fires that burned for months after the collapse were from office furnishings were they?The point is the NIST final report on WTC7 was a fraud. They didn't test for explosive residue (even though they knew all about explosives themselves) as you should do in a PROPER investigation - that fact alone should at least make you suspicious - if not you are ignorant
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk NIST did not test for explosives because there was no need to. Nothing indicated that explosives were used. All indication and on site statements clearly pointed to fire being the cause of collapse. Research and facts support that it was fire that caused the collapse.Anyway you still fail to logically explain your bullshit statements using facts and examples. You fail you retard.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 "NIST did not test for explosives because there was no need to. Nothing indicated that explosives were used." You are kidding, right? I believe that testing for explosives would be standard protocol. Especially after the BOMBS in 1993! Chunks of the WTC found 5 blocks away would indicate explosives. Not to mention statements from many that were there of explosions. NIST found the cause of the collapses to be from fires only because that is all they looked for! Wake up
Tricky1ish 1 month ago
@Tricky1ish there were also statements from professionals on site that clearly made statements like the building is in trouble. The buildings are leaning and we cannot save them. It is no a matter if the building will fall but when. Seems you clearly chose to ignore those statements and substitute in yours because the others clearly conflict with your bullshit. Nothing you state is any fact that proves your bullshit. You moron.
12weasel100 1 month ago
@12weasel100 LMAO! I did, in fact listen to statements that claimed the buildings were in trouble. But I find it odd how they came into play much later than those that claimed they heard explosions. Also, if the buildings were "leaning", wouldn't logic tell you that they would fall the way they were supposedly "leaning"? The simple facts that there were claims of explosions and the 1993 bombs, should have lead NIST to investigate for bombs not just fires that caused the collapses!
Tricky1ish 1 month ago
@Tricky1ish LMAO the statements that claim the building was in trouble "came into play" at the time the firefighters were watching the actual fire and the building actually leaning. Based on your statements then your supposed "bombs" would have had to occur before this. Which leads to the question then how would you logically explain "bombs" indictaing "charges" going off before this but the building still stands for 7 hours instead of falling within secs like a controlled demo would. You retard
12weasel100 1 month ago
@HardcoreJungFunk (continued) and your reference to thermite being the cause is pure bullshit. Had thermite been used (it wasn't but I will pretend) had it been used it would have been on the columns so it would have been dispersed randomly over a large area like the columns not found in a molten pool. Also thermite cools quickly it would not be found molten weeks later. You have just spew out a bunch of shit but failed in any logical way of explaining it you retard.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 " thermite/ thermate cools quickly it would not be found molten weeks later."thats BS - It contains its own supply of oxygen, and does not require any external source such as air. Consequently, it cannot be smothered and may ignite in any environment, given sufficient initial heat. It will burn just as well while underwater, for example, and cannot even be extinguished with water, as water sprayed on a thermite reaction will instantly be boiled into steam
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk Oh - I was been ironic about "fire" bringing down the 3 WTC buildings, all 3 were controlled demos!!
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk (continued) and I have already proven you wrong about your little thermite bullshit lie. It was never found. Also by your logic thermate would be used on columns therefore it would be dispersed randomly like the columns not found in a pool. Also thermite/ thermate cools quickly it would not be found molten weeks later. Typical truther when your first lie is revealed you make up another illogically lie instead of facing reality. Reality is you have no facts you moron.
12weasel100 2 months ago
@12weasel100 Hey, weasel face! FUCK YOU!
CalumGilhooly 2 months ago
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@CalumGilhooly yeah nice response you moron you had no facts to prove anything you stated. You have only proven what we already know you are just a fucking idiot spewing out the same old shit that has been proven wrong along time ago. You clearly have no idea what the fuck you are talking about you retard.
12weasel100 2 months ago
I want every democrat to realize that Obama is lying just the same. It is time for you to switch the libertarian party, and do it fast. Otherwise we will wake up homeless on a continent our four fathers conquered.
asleeperj 3 months ago
The building was brought down by uncontrolled raging fires weakening the steel and destroying the core of the building so when it actually fell, it was only the outer shell you saw falling. These fires lasted an estimated 7 hours. Long enough for all of the damage on the inside of the building to occur. Steel expanded, weakened, and failed leaving a hollow center. It's as simple as that.
kittielashes 4 months ago
I am calling you on the thermite. There is no way that thermite was used to destroy any of those towers. Why is it that when the towers were hit that the thermite was not activated seeing that fire ignites it? Then one of the towers fell on top of tower 7 causing huge gaping holes and fires. Why didn't the fires destroy the building 7 right away? Thermite is used up on seconds and cannot cut through steel the size of the beams inside those buildings. Prove me wrong with science.
rangers94ism 4 months ago
@rangers94ism , lol, watch video of thermite cutting through steel! I dare you! you have obviously never heard of cutter/shape charge? BTW I agree about the beams in #7, they were some of the "strongest ever" used in a NYC building construction.
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 3 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 You need a lot of Thermate to do that. How did they put them in place with no one knowing? Who did it and how did they do it? Warcrime911 is full of crap. There was no conspiracy. Please produce evidence based on reality and not what's in your head. You have nothing because there is nothing.
rangers94ism 3 months ago
@rangers94ism , "You have nothing,"? cutter charges are real! and did I say they used cutter charges? p.s. derp. 2 or more highjackers flying jets into buildings is a conspiracy! so you're lying, there was a conspiracy. prove there wasn't! time to come back to reality.. lol
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 3 months ago
@SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 I know that cutter charges are real, but there is no evidence for it at all. Where are the charges? And you still didn't answer who put the charges in there. You would need thousands of demolition experts and months to place those charges with no one noticing. That sounds stupid, why should I believe that story? And obviously I was talking about a US government conspiracy. This was an attack from Al Qaeda. That's it. Bush did not do it.
rangers94ism 3 months ago
@rangers94ism , Again> Did I say cutter charges were used? or did I say they are real, and can cut through steel? all I said is it is possible! p.s. al-cia-da did do it! LoL I never said they didn't!
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 3 months ago
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Your analysis is "furthermore" boring, long winded and proves nothing.
degas1964 4 months ago
Your analysis is "futhermore" boring, long winded and proves nothing.
degas1964 4 months ago
@degas1964 well than your just to stupid to understand it... watch a few real 9/11 videos, not just the bullshit
admiralPs 3 months ago
@admiralPs Thanks for your comment. I read both NIST Reports on WTC7 and WTC1 and WTC2. (did you?) You can rely on a 9 minute "real 9/11" youtube video to make up your opinion on this subject or actually spend time and read the reports. Minor inconsistency are expected in a report of this size but don't mean it's a conspiracy. I would be more suspicious if a report of this size was flawless.
degas1964 3 months ago
hey buddy ---even if proven true by science that 9-11 was caused by explosives in all three buildings, it doesn't matter because most americans have too much faith in their government to believe science could ever prove their government was lying to them.
it is called faith-faith in god-gov-authority generally, and it negates truth by definiton.
stop chasing the truth, the big lie has already won. the fight for truth is now obsolete. it will not change anything , people are sheep
zevkirsh 4 months ago
@zevkirsh imagine if Martin Luther King Jr thought like that...
jubjubmh316 4 months ago
And what are your credentials in analyzing this report? Were you personally familiar with the SECs' meeting rooms? Had you been to that floor? You dont know what was in that room. Why are you lying? You must be in on some conspiracy!!!! WHERES MY HAT!
See how ignorant you sound?
MrTobytat2 5 months ago
@MrTobytat2 Excuse me? Are you saying that NO ONE who JUST READS the floor plans and maps, can be QUALIFIED to understand them unless they had actually been in the building? Or are you suggesting that the SEC meeting room was filled with kerosene?
See how ignorant you sound?
FreedumbFighter28 4 months ago
@FreedumbFighter28 Yes, excuse you. Yes, I am saying that no one who just reads the floor plans and maps can be qualified to state what is actually IN those rooms. Its not surprising you idiot "truthers" latch onto any bullshit and then make baseless assumptions. Tell me, are you or are you not personally familiar with what was in that room? Your false dilemma is LAUGHABLE.
MrTobytat2 4 months ago
@MrTobytat2 Than how did NIST come up with what was in the room? They couldnt even figure out what floor it was on. hahaha NO ONE who worked on the report, had EVER worked inside that building.
Nor were interviews conducted to asses what was in the room with workers.
Are you saying that there could have been something in the meeting room that would burn hot enough to burn through the fireproofing and weaken the steel in 1 1/2 hours as NIST claims. If so, how do YOU know.
FreedumbFighter28 4 months ago
@FreedumbFighter28 Hello? Do you speak English? WTF didnt you understand about my post? Im not the one claiming there was or was not something flammable enough to weaken steel. YOU are the one claiming that there wasnt something in the room when you have no idea. You pointing out their assumptions doesnt make your assumptions any more valid. Let me know if you need this explained further. Im always happy to educate a "truther"
MrTobytat2 4 months ago
All you have done is admit NISTs report is inadequate. I cannot say what was in the room. TRUE. However, there is no known office supplies, that the firecode identifies, that could cause heat strong enough to weaken steel, to cause a symetrical collapse...in just 1 1/2 hours
As I remember, the NIST steel test showed that they couldnt do it in 6 hours,under perfect conditions.
FOIA tapes
Maybe if they looked for some sort of exotic accelerant, as per the fire code,we woudnt be having this talk
FreedumbFighter28 4 months ago
EVOLUTION IS A LIE!!!!
GreatGungHolio 6 months ago
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sorry,if some sheep here still believe that NIST explained the wtc7 collapse, watch this:
watch?v=ArnYryJqCwU
See that in 2008 Shyam Sunder from NIST said "the public should really recognize the science is really behind what we have said" and "the obvious stares you in the face" LOL!
bernuga 6 months ago
biggest part of WTC steel,sorry.
bernuga 6 months ago
I really don't want to fight with debunkers that only can insult,but never give answers,I only want to be sure that everybody know that the biggest part of wtc was SOLD after 9/11 ,before analysis, in a very fast cover-up operation.This is another unbelievable fact,a theory for somebody.U can read the article here:
bollyn.com/document-the-selling-the-world-trade-center-steel
bernuga 6 months ago
Wow!!!
Much Respect for your video and the work you've done.
I think every citizen should aim to this kind involvement, otherwise we may wake up one day and realize that we are slaves, and the country is no more by the people for the people.
Static172 6 months ago
/watch?v=HvAJQnUJUVY&feature=related in this YT it is claimed a FDNY engineer calculated the collapse of 7 at appx' 12.15pm 911 as "five hours" They don't give his/her name or his/her calculations but if this claim was true the NIST WTC7 report released 2008 would have been a redundant duplicate and waste of public money.
MarkB1ngham 7 months ago
@MarkB1ngham Hmmmm interesting.Thank you.
TheLegendkiller2100 5 months ago
Pools of iron ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Who said that wait no said iron just this shitty video.
Daddyo930 direct liar
WarCrime911 expert con man
Um loads of people knew wtc7 was going to collapse thats why fire fighters were pulled. no media mystery here.
Epa agents inspected the steel for three months should NIST have repeated this?
What a load of bollocks this video is.
TheLHOser 7 months ago
At the minimum, someone belongs in jail for destroying all that evidence. Someone made the call, who? The same guy that told Cheney the plane is 50 miles out, the plane is 40 miles out, do the orders still stand? Or the A/V guy at the school that had the TV all hooked up in the hallway, so bush could watch the first plane hit the tower? And, Obama is the conspirator, for failing to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed". He's helping to obstruct justice.
joebananatube 7 months ago
Where are all the debunkers now? Cointelpro knows well enough what specific sites to stay away from. There are too many technical points that this man destroys for the debunkers to make a coherent argument here so they stay away.
Daddyo930 7 months ago
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9/11 = INSIDE JOB.
quadcatfly 7 months ago
3:10: Bullshit. Every place I've ever worked, the 'meeting room' had at least one big table (made of wood), and jammed with chairs, paper, marker boards and all kinds of stuff that can burn. 'Sparsely furnished' my ass.
DevSodDribble 7 months ago
@DevSodDribble I think the point is that NIST grossly over exaggerated the fuels loads. Even a wooden table will not burn for 3-4 hours and this is the timeframe they say was needed to cause the structural failure. This 3-4 hours was needed because of the fire proofing that existed in the building that a table fire would not overcome.
By their own admission the fuel loads could only sustain a fire from 20-32 minutes in any given place but they needed to overcome the fireproofing.
lexicon008 7 months ago
@DevSodDribble that kind of room WOULD be classed as low combustion. We have an area that has a butane tank that powers fire doors; that would be classed as higher combustion: a welders workshop would be higher still: and an army barracks weapons cache would be even higher.
theauntiechrist 7 months ago
"you would need over a hundred pounds of thermite placed directly against the pillar"
Wrong, this has been disproven by Jonathan Cole..google him and you will see it takes less then 5 lbs to cut through a column. And this was home made thermate, not military grade nano thermite.
lexicon008 7 months ago
This video itself is misleading. You say the only reason they ruled out thermite was because of they way it is used to cut but you did not address that they said you would need over a hundred pounds of thermite placed directly against the pillar. Just for fun. Who are we going to charge with destroying of the WTC's? There is nothing close to being usable courtroom evidence. NO eyewitness of bombs being planted or the such. Build a REAL courtroom case for me.
aceriggs 7 months ago
All we want is answers......there's nothing wrong with asking for the truth to so many damned unanswered questions.
dreyever 7 months ago
Do you know how many people would have to be involved for it to be an "inside job?" The people who planted tons explosives or thermite without anyone noticing, the people who organized the attacks, the people who remotely flew the planes, the people who prepared the planes for remote flying, the security guards who ignored everything, everyone at NIST, everyone else who investigated it, people in the media, etc. And what about the people who were asked to help but refused? Please respond.
TimothyRaymond1 7 months ago
@TimothyRaymond1 Hmm lets see, about the same in the manhattan project? maybe the invasion of normandy? perhaps pearl harbour, maybe area 51? Seems there are alot of things that have been or are still being kept fairly secret from us. Thermite could ahve been painted on, security guards themselves told it was just upgrades, the planes well im sure a hand ful of people could rig those, NIST well they just had to come up with a story the average person couldn't argue with..nuff said
lexicon008 7 months ago
@lexicon008 The people involved in the Manhattan Project knew they were not going to be killing thousands of Americans. Area 51 in out in the middle of nowhere where it is easy to keep secret. If 9/11 was an "inside job" everything would have to have been prepared in the middle of the largest city in the United States without anyone noticing. And everyone involved would had to have been fine with killing thousands of Americans.
TimothyRaymond1 7 months ago
@TimothyRaymond1 Oh please, there are documented episodes of the military infecting americans with live deadly viruses, spraying viruses and bacteria over civilian populations in america, irradiating children and others for nuclear tests, do you honestly think this is not out of bounds?
The government kills it's own citizens all the times. It's delusional to think that they would somehow have a conscience here if they are trying to acheive a political end.
lexicon008 7 months ago
where can this report be downloaded?
AdvExplor 7 months ago
@BullToTheShit
Nice job debunking this video by pointing out a citing issue. If you thought it was suspicious why didn't you check it out yourself?
Search "the great thermate debate" and you'll find out that thermate can make vertical and horizontal cuts in steel.
Mrbobthejoe1 8 months ago
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At 5:08 the narrator of this video claims that nanothermite can be used to cut vertical columns, but does not provide any source or proof to back it up. How "Criminally" Unscientific Can You Get?.
This video is now officially debunked. No need to thank me.
BullToTheShit 8 months ago
Explain the 9/11 Insider Trading
wldeanml 9 months ago
2011 nothing yet :/
LilSpankey93 9 months ago
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aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh, no. If buildings in New York collapse that easy, why would anyone with a brain work in them. Buildings in New York collapse far to easy to be safe for human occupation. ....or maybe these buildings had committed sins and were being punished by God. lol ...Inside Job.
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
We Have the Results and Only We Have the Results
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
iBlindGame 10 months ago
Even more important for evaluating NIST:
We Have the Results and Only We Have the Results (15 minutes)
watch?v=iQdJuQLNFCk
iBlindGame 11 months ago
NIST
Not Interested in Searching Truth
dogsofwarclan 11 months ago 16
@dogsofwarclan Or how 'bout "NIST" - Not Interested in Seeking Truth. Call for new impartial investigation -- something that has not yet been done.
TetraLiteProductions 10 months ago
@TetraLiteProductions :)
dogsofwarclan 10 months ago
And NIST still never explained the total collapse in their "final" report! They admit free-fall acceleration, but don't alter their conclusion! Amazing and criminal lack of scientific method! We owe the 343 firefighters who died that day a much better explanation than NIST's pathetic failure. NIST does not support scientific proof by virtue of its secret computer modeling. To be scientifically correct, they would have to supply others with this model to be proven by repeatability. But no!
TetraLiteProductions 10 months ago
@dogsofwarclan NTSB
Normal Technical Stubernes & Bullshit
dogsofwarclan 10 months ago
@dogsofwarclan good one
xinecallaw 6 months ago
Dude how about slowing down your fucking slide show, it gave me a headache trying to watch that cascade of flashing images. Other than that thanks, interesting food for thought.
hafabee 1 year ago
LOL
75 shills didn't like this video.,
HAHAHAHAHAHA
homerbear46 1 year ago
In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. This building's collapse alone resulted in a profit of about $500 million.
sychophantt 1 year ago
@sychophantt Yeah so he got people to hijack the planes? For the insurance money lol like Silverstein even fucking needs the insurance money he was already a fucking millionaire but hey I bet you have a website you got that from and i bet it has a cool movie with mood music.....your a sheep
Amsterdam819 11 months ago
@Amsterdam819
Wow. You just debunked everything ! Larry Silverstein was about to lose hundreds of millions in maintenence costs on all three towers. A millionaire? LOL he was much more than a millionaire. You are fucking stupid LOL !!. The greedy are greedy. They never have enough money and power. And it wasnt just Silverstein profiting off this you absolute moron. You are clueless.
splendid1000 8 months ago
@splendid1000 they found GOLD BARS AT THE WTC WRECKAGE
usgitmo33 7 months ago
@usgitmo33
Yep. One of the largest gold deposits in the world was under the WTC and there are eye witness accounts from local security of large hauling trucks and heavily armed guards under the WTC are the collapse.
splendid1000 7 months ago
*after
splendid1000 7 months ago
It there any evidence that the Power down was in the whole building? Many new yorker's must have seen this because of the lights must have all went off! Normal power off's are separated in sections in a building, this would be a real evidence!
74pbg 1 year ago
@74pbg Search on YouTube for Scott Forbes and Gary Corbett. Both of them have done interviews about this.
SciMethod 1 year ago
The "raging inferno" as it is depicted on page 383 would have literally flame-broiled every last ounce of human flesh on the north half of floors6 or 7 through 13 or 14. In other words, no one would have survived the kind of fire they claim was concentrated in this area.
punkeratheart 1 year ago
Why don't proponents of the official WTC7 collapse story take NIST's WTC7 data, adapt it to another building due for demolition and effect an identical CD style near perfect symmetrical collapse? (good work WarCrime911, do NIST explain the intermitant mystery smoke without fire of different shades pouring from the entirity of 7's windward side throughout 911 before its collapse at 5.25pm NY time or the incongruously small seismic reading for all that freefalling steel and concrete?)
MarkB1ngham 1 year ago
The mainstream 9/11 propaganda relies on people not caring or not investigating the facts. They rely on people being stupid and gullible, just believing the Government because that's what they think everyone else believes. There are all sorts of ways to irrationalize and disassociate people from looking into something. I can't wait to post some examples for you.
Go perform some chemical tests of WTC Dust and maybe we'll believe you... Until then, keep calling yourself a "debunker".. lol LIAR!
WarCrime911 1 year ago 6
@WarCrime911 I thought the "9/11 truth" movement was dead... its just not sexy anymore no one cares except you and your little group of fringe basement dwellers...
Amsterdam819 11 months ago
@Amsterdam819 yeah fucking right dude more people fucking are realizing everyday. i guarntee i get more pussy then you too faggot
rickyp17 11 months ago
@rickyp17 Fuck yeah :)
Amsterdam819 11 months ago
@Amsterdam819 hahaha its u who is asleep. and slumbering. 3500 architects and engineers. 250 pilots. and a whole bunch of people that are more intelligent than u. and they all advocate truth note lies like the goverment
dogsofwarclan 10 months ago
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@WarCrime911 @MsgtSpook Go to rememberbuilding7DOTorg Its a organization made up of family members that lost loved ones on that day along with over 1400 Architects and engineers that say the way building 7 came down was physically imposable.Anyone who knows about this organization or that is just now finding out about it please give this comment a thumbs up to help spread awareness of there existence.
Fred7038 10 months ago
@WarCrime911 What can we do to finally get the truth out?
Everybody that wants the truth seem disconnected.
TheGrinningSkull 8 months ago
@WarCrime911 YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVE SOMETHING TRUE IN ORDER TO PROVE SOMETHING ELSE WRONG!!! This is good objective analysis! Who you call a liar? JUST IMAGINE what it would it would cause if it was just declared to the public that the official explanations can (by far!!!) not be true and therefore something else must have been happening! This would be a huge embarrassment for the US government! And this would just set the ball rolling!
SENsale87 4 months ago
BTW: There has already been found Nanothermite pieces in the WTC dust and this has been confirmed by some independent scientists. (Dr. Steven Jones, Dr. Niels Harrit)
SENsale87 4 months ago
you keep saying explosives but you cant even explain to me how they were put in there in the first place. all you did was prove that thermite can cut through steel. your not proving a damn thing and your ignoring the fact that you have no evidence to prove explosives were even used. idk how long you can keep doing this...or maybe youll throw another theory at me to make up for the fact that you cant back up what you say. or call me a child again. which is it?
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend I have to laugh at this. LOL!
You make it sound like NIST can actually back up their claims. LOL! THat is funny.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264 no, i never said that. you just made an insinuation as to what i said. but you guys always make assumptions about everything so i dont mind.
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
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@Zero2Legend Well, its obvious that you are a "believer.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend,
NIST made the assumption that no explosives were used, and based that on audio evidence, instead of thorough chemical examination of physical evidence.
It was a COVER-UP, run and instituted through Defense Department Contractor SAIC. You idiots think you can murder 3,000 people and get away with it, well not in America! We will never stop investigating and exposing you for what you have done. Don't you get it? We're cutting massive holes through your "Debunker" safety net.
WarCrime911 1 year ago
all 3 buildings fell "inwards" on themselves! even the one that wasn't hit and damaged (WTC7) - no buildings that have ever collapsed b4 have ever done that! - that's enough evidence for me that this was not a real, accidental collapse but a planned and organised operation .
artyfarty3 1 year ago
You said: "9/11 was an outside job done by terroists."
Can you please prove your point? Where's the irrefutable proof of that theory?
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 all your doing is back peddling because you cant prove how thermate was put in the world trade centers so your trying to distract me from my question. if you cant prove your point then your done
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
I don't need to prove how it got in there. Nano-thermite has been scientifically proven to have been in the WTC dust/debris and thermite is what would have made the eutectic steel. Not fires or air plane impacts.
You're the lunatic that thinks that not knowing how nano-thermite was brought into the building is at the same time evidence of the OCT.
I'd say you need a doctor.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 ok, but you cant tell me how thermate/thermite was put int he twin towers can you? also, what traces were found to suggest that nano-thermite was used?
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
No, I can't tell you how nano-thermite/thermite was brought in.
So now you can happily live in and believe in your fairy tale about 2 regular 767's flown by "al-Qaedas" bringing 3 steel framed skyscrapers down.
The traces are described in the Bentham report by Niels Harrit, Steven Jones et al. You can google it.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 if your going to use it as evidence then i want to hear from you what traces were found. stop hiding behind evidence already found and actually start proving your points
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
Well, you said 767's and office fires by aviation fuel was used, isn't that correct? YOU SAID THAT. If not, you admit that the NIST Report is good for nothing. How does that feel?
If you don't think that the Bentham report confirms your need of "traces craze," you can PM me with your name and I'll provide you with Niels Harrit - one of the authors of the nano-thermite report's - email. He'll answer your traces question. But noone can explain excactly how it was used.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 i didnt mention shit about my 767's are you HIGH? now your just making up shit. and no one can explain how it was used because it WASNT USED. and you cant explain the traces found because you being the fucking sheep you are will believe whatever the fuck alex jones tells you. you can prove shit and your back peddleing to other things to try to prove a point that you clearly dont have in the first place
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
You think that 9/11 was an inside job made by terrorists. That would mean that what the NIST Report explain about 767's, office fires and the 3 towers is true.
To believe that you'd have to be high. Are you high?
Ah, no, that's right, Nano-thermite just occurs regularly when building collapses and couldn't possibly have anything to do with the super high tech black op demolition.
LOL
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 once again back up your evidence. your avoiding that
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
Only a new investigation would prove how nano-thermite was used. That it's covered up how it was braught in or how it was used does not endorse the OCT.
Nano-thermite has been cinfirmed and it should NOT have beem there. Pretty much proof of it haveing some role in the demolition.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 now explain the traces of nanao thermite that was found
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
the traces are described in the Bentham Report "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe."
If that isn't sufficient enough for you, PM me with your name and I'll get you in contact with Harrit.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
you want to say you exposed the nist report and they "lied" but the truth you have a bias that makes you think in one direction all the time, and i cant take your video seriously because of it.
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend, My bias is towards investigating 9/11 as a crime scene and analyzing the evidence scientifically. Maybe the evidence I have come across has been too pursuasive to me that it is an inside job. But if it wasn't what harm does it cause for me to think that it was and begin investigating it as such.
There are the others who are so biased against this that they will make up excuses for not dealing with it...
WarCrime911 1 year ago 4
@WarCrime911 there no harm in finding out the facts for yourself. but you already decided in your head what your going to believe based on your video and any evidence you find or have found you will simply wrap around your already perceived notion as to what you think actually happened. your sound like every other conspiracy theorist that didnt do any real research as to what happened and your repeating the same shit thats been said for years but had to be revamped because of all the debunking
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend,
I very much thank the REAL debunkers for doing there part in helping to solidify and strengthen the arguments of 9/11 Truth Movement. There are also the liars who pose as debunkers because they are too afraid of paranoid to believe that there Government could do such a thing. In way I'd like to thank them too, because if it weren't for them I never would have started making any videos at all. Overall, debunking has strengthened the movement, not hurt it.
WarCrime911 1 year ago
@WarCrime911 liars who pose as debunkers? once again your just showing how paranoid you all are of everything including the government. you cant even trust your own people let alone the government. stop proving the REAL debunkers case already your embarrassing yourselves...also, your movement is pretty much dead, no one except paranoid delusional people give in to your theories. you know like the people who believe in lizard people and the jews are really out to get us? thats hilarious
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
It seems that you're the excact type that cannot believe that branches of the US government could be part of this. It's not WarCrime911 who's paranoid - it's you who're the fake, lying debunker who actually speak BS in order to convince YOURSELF that 9/11 wasn't an inside job; If 9/11 truthers were as ridiculous as a mad, long haired and -bearded guy in the side of the road wit a "The End Is Near!" sign, why would you even pay attention to them?
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 no, its called common sense guy. and im not the one deluding myself of anything. the govenment cant cover up a blowjob, let alone a "conspiracy". i dont know what else to tell you other than that. i hear the same thing from other truthers and they even guote parts of the nist report that your "movement" hates so much to try and prove some of there points (and fail miserably), making you hypocritical...and just dumb.
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
It's called common sense that only a few poeple have the ability to act the little boy who discovered that the emperor's clothes weren't there and that history repeats itself.
You're the one deluting that Bin Laden knocked down three steel framed skyscrapers with 2 planes and that that should be resaon for violating the constitution and rob the US population trillions of their tax $'s to keep "al-Qaeda" from running around in Americans back yards.
You also believe in Santa?
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
And of course you had to bring up lizard people and "the jooos" theories in order to make yourself convinced that that has to di with main 9/11 truthing. Try and look at the SCIENCE which disprooves the NIST Report and the witnesses and the true narrative which confirms the perhaps biggest cover up in history and a criminal way of "investigating" according to the US Constitution.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 the nist report will have flaws because of the inaccurate data that was taken and the second guessing like any other report, but youll take it that way because you really want to believe that the government is evil. there fore you have a bias and i cant take you seriously on that.
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
The NIST Report will have flaws because it's biased "science" that was ordered by the Bush administration to come up with a fire hypothesis and not the truth about what happened to the towers by deniyng e.g molten steel and not testing for explosives.
I can simply note by using my eyes and ears that people superior to and controlling the US government are pure lying evil. You're the loser who now has to sit and "discuss" with the Bigfooters to stay out of the nearest nut house.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
"your movement is pretty much dead,"
Another act of the "self protective psychology" that guys like you have to spew in order to make your pityfull Disney World safer. Like a kid plugging his fingers in his ears going "NA NA NA NA NA NAAAAA!" in order to not listen to what his parents tell him.
The movement is only growing - and staying more focused. Away from the "Bush did it! (alone)" or "There was no plane at the Pentagon!" headlines of 2002-2006.
AE911 Truth. org
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 and no, im thinking this way to keep myself from becoming a paranoid delusional cynic that thinks the world is out to get him. there really is no movement to begin with, and it was a mistake to call it that in the first place. once all the teenagers and others that joined get bored of this "exciting revelation that the government wants to destroy the world and only they can stop it"you guys have created they'll move on to other things.
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
"and no, im thinking this way to keep myself from becoming a paranoid delusional cynic that thinks the world is out to get him."
That's excactly my point! How about joining the normal people who leaves conspiracy nuts alone, then? Or go see a doctor and tell him that now you can't live a normal life because you have to constantly discuss with 9/11 truthers to keep yourself from getting insane?
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 uhh, you responded to my comments THREE TIMES. your going to tell me to get help when i didnt say shit to you before that? here's an idea, dont respond to me with THREE COMMENTS and dont share your opinion or "facts" with someone that clearly didn't ask you in the first place. are you retarded? your going to tell me to leave you alone when your responding to me? you need to get your head checked
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
I didn't ask you to leave me alone. It was an advise if you want to look normal. Please stay and let me make a mockery of you for the audience. It's my hobby.
"The government couldn't cover a blow job."
The government WANTS it to look like it couldn't cover a god damn blow job in order to make you think so robotically gullible, that if they couldn't "cover" that, they certainly couldn't be behind 9/11.
That's how you're deluted - AND controlled, dude.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 see there you go again lol leave the poor people alone and look normal? take your own advice. telling me that your making ME look bad while saying the government is controlling me and trying to tell me to act normal when you spout off about the government wants me to think a certain way? goodness man, you are all sorts of fucked up, i hope you think your embarrassing me because your not accomplishing anything else but looking crazy
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
Philip Zelikow and Kissinger, masters behind the curtain, covered up both explosives/bomb witnesses and molten steel witnesses. They piss on honorable Americans who had their working boots melting from walking in that shit.
Zelikow and Kissinger C-O-V-E-R-E-D- I-T U-P. Get it? We're not talking about something far more serious than a f*cking blow job, and they C-O-V-E-R-E-D I-T U-P!
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 like really, in your head you think your putting me in my place by telling me to leave you guys alone when your the ones commenting on MY COMMENTS. i didnt say shit to you or anyone else until you started making retarded ass comments. your making yourself look bad by being a complete hypocrite in the first place. you want to be normal? then stop making yourself look like a fucking tool
Zero2Legend 1 year ago
@Zero2Legend
You keep on believing that powerful men like Zelikow - who contracted the RC'd Boeings that were obviously used for this "Op. Northwoods version 2001" - can't cover up their own black ops.
You keep on believing that Bin Laden is alive and behind 9/11.
And you keep on believing, that I ever told you to leave me alone.
God damn, you truly need to call your doctor with those illusions.
Thetan1974 1 year ago