Shaun's funny as hell. I'm kinda glad they've only hit mainstream rock. Crossing into mainstream pop stations that play crap like Justin Timberlake, Lady Gaga, and Fall Out Boy just kills rock bands.
This particular part of the conversation about Seether is a damn good one. I agree Karma and Effect was probably their most intense album to date. Finding Beauty was more an album worth of experimentation album where they got a chance to explore their musical range and diverse themselves a little bit from the harder stuff they put out due to Shaun's relationship with Amy Lee (end result: Karma & Effect & Disclaimer) The lyrics are still deep and dedicated, but the music is more diverse.
yeahhhhh,so what,i like a few of their songs,sooo,seether was on tour with b.b so stfu once again,try something else,AND,seether dont suck,they never did,i assume/hope they never will!
Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces has a few catchy songs but completely lacks the lyrical depth or intensity of their earlier albums. It's essentially the same bland radio hard rock that you hear everywhere else.
Their stage performance is still top-notch like always, but the song writing has really taken a blow.
I agree, to some extent. FBINS wasn't their best, at all. But the lyrical depth is just as good as the rest, but more varried. It's not always about a relationship gone bad like Dislaimer and Karma and Effect were, and a lot of their songs on this one weren't even hard rock, and they do stand out from the rest of radio rock.
I think there deffinately was more experimenting with the subject matter and the melodies, but it just doesn't seem as articulately written.
Also, I miss the "No Swearing" rule they had for Karma and Effect. It's so easy for musicians to add the word "Fucking" to a weak line in order to make it seem more intense.
Im a huge Seether fan. And I gotta agree with both of you. Seethers lyrics were never complex, ever. Even back with Saron Gas "Wish you were a beer, the thirst I wanna drink." But the simplicity is what makes it Seether. I just wish on FBINS Shaun didn't use effects for his voice and shit. He didn't need it. But take the pianos on WalkAwayFromTheSun, I hated that at first. It wasn't the rugged Seether i'm use to. But its that diversity that keeps them apart from being another radio band.
Well said, FBINIS had a few goo points, but was rather unexpected. I'm really hoping for a healthy new blend of their roots and new diversities with their rumored new album for 2009, with previously unreleased Saron Gas songs! I think someone told me Shaun wants to start a side project, a solo sorta thing where he makes 'lighter' songs, *shivers* God I hope that was wrong, it's their darkness that drew me in.
@Quatermain98526 FBINS was shit when you compare it to their other stuff. I was in awe when I heard something so amazing like K&E and then turned to shitty like FBINS. Everything was good when Pat was in the band. Shaun said when Pat left he could experiment more. He needs to stop experimenting and start producing the shit that got everybody to like this band. Because FBINS attracts Nickelback fans...
@Quatermain98526 well I found FBINS in the alternative metal section along with their other albums, like suicide was on the softer album, but the heaviest song they have made.
@FamGuy1995 I found it in the pop/rock section. Seether is difficult to classify, but if you asked me i would say, alternative/post-grunge/hard/rock.
bullshit why do people got to pick on the rock bands like you do? They made it to the radio & the popularity so why bitch most of today's artists ain't got even a touch of talent so why pick on the good ones?
Please everyone stop bitching and bickering about who's better.
Seether and SOAD battle is simple. Two different sounds to two great bands...that are INCOMPARABLE!
And to all the people dissing this song. Don't listen to it and waste both of our time by negatively posting. the band is 10x greater than you will ever be.
And in closing Seether is amazing live and so is system of a down. Stop dissing both the bands bc it takes guts and talents to put out music.
I'm reading over this debate between who of the two bands is better, System of a Down or Seether. If you want to settle that argument it's RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE ALWAYS
no question about it, this current tour is the best. i went on november 13th, and they were still opening with gasoline. must be cool to hear them open w/ no jesus christ
I saw them in January with 3days grace and Econoline Crush, Seether played maybe 8 songs, and they opened with no jesus christ, hearing that song in an arena live was awesome.
And this motherfucker has absolutley no talent whatsoever...this song in particular, is horrible.Does it have any meaning?I don't think so...and that guy that sings looks like he's over-dosing too much,too often...hopefully he'll die as a garbage on a street...and I wish you the same...
FisandCram - I'm not associated enough with System Of A Down to comment on them, but it's rather immature of you to come onto Seether video, call them talentless and say the song has no meaning without any research, like i said before, i don't know enough about SOAD, but i'll say they probably don't want a dumbass like you as a fan of them.
hey people srr, system of a down is a great band, i'm sure, just in my opinion seether's needles is better in my opinion and probably in the eyes of all seether fans, but two completely different songs
dude, i'm just saying, it's just a matter of opinion, but if you think something else is better, go post it there, or else you're always going to be judged for the worse
system of a down's version is mindless hardcore if you ask me, seether's needles is much better, in every way, shaun morgan is a better leadsinger anyways
I can't stop listening to this song. One of my favs. I have not seen one bad live performance from Seether. Makes me pumped up to see their upcoming concert in Oklahoma.
The most powerful Seether song, I can't wait the new album... I think it will still be kickass and very emotional, without Callahan, there are some videos (Needle and The Damage Done...) which show it.
i love seether they r my fav band ive seen em live they kick fucking arse i mean that i went fucking mental at there gig they were amazing thats why thre my fav band and ill be seeing them again as soon as possible!!!
Seether is my fav band! this song is fuckin' badass , i love this performance i've seen like ... 4-5 songs from this concert and they ROCKS!!!Shaun's voice is in incredible ... SEETHER RUUUULES!!! \m/ 0(>_<)o \m/
2:44 Dale is super cool
KingRuiFreitas 5 months ago
Seethers Just FIne Now As They Were Then.!
SceneQueenOfHighTops 8 months ago
Sieht ja schon gut zugesoffen aus in dem Video, der Sänger ^^
MrChrisArndt 9 months ago
y is the drummer wearing a dare shirt
TheOLiVeRAR 1 year ago
anyone know where i can download this
dogfart1313 1 year ago
1:52-1:55
dogfart1313 1 year ago
Shaun's funny as hell. I'm kinda glad they've only hit mainstream rock. Crossing into mainstream pop stations that play crap like Justin Timberlake, Lady Gaga, and Fall Out Boy just kills rock bands.
gunner525 2 years ago
lol somebody dont know seether shaun is the singer john is drums dale is bass and pat is guitar and oh yeah shaun plays guitar to he is beast
nickknaus5 2 years ago
haha somebody dosent kno seether... pats not in the band anymore
3DGFORLYFE 1 year ago
One if the guitarists - I cant tell if its Pat Callahan or John Humphrey - is wearing an Evanescence wristband [2:45]
AussieEvanescenceFan 2 years ago
Comment removed
Taker6115 2 years ago
@Taker6115
umm john plays the drums and dale plays bass.
KaToRtheband 2 years ago
@KaToRtheband
Oh, sure sure! Im sorry - I was a bit confused because he said Pat & John. u r right, sure. John at the drums, Dale at the bass.
Taker6115 2 years ago
@AussieEvanescenceFan
umm if thats the wristband at 2:45 then thats dale, and hes the bassist
KaToRtheband 2 years ago
I agree BTW that Breaking Benjamin fuckin rocks! Seether is still the shit regardless as well!
hbforlife23 2 years ago
This particular part of the conversation about Seether is a damn good one. I agree Karma and Effect was probably their most intense album to date. Finding Beauty was more an album worth of experimentation album where they got a chance to explore their musical range and diverse themselves a little bit from the harder stuff they put out due to Shaun's relationship with Amy Lee (end result: Karma & Effect & Disclaimer) The lyrics are still deep and dedicated, but the music is more diverse.
hbforlife23 2 years ago 2
Seether Rocks!
seether69a 2 years ago 3
BlackstarSirius shut the fuck up.
1. Seether still rock
2. So do Breaking Benjamin
end of story. deal with it.
radiofreek 2 years ago 4
Seether owns the stage!!!!
They rock the hardest!!!!!!!
Wish I was there.
93men 2 years ago 2
Comment removed
BlackstarSirius 2 years ago
You're so right.
They need to come back to their roots.
Beaver0305 2 years ago
seether dont fuckin suck,their still kickin,so stfu!
buffguy0 2 years ago 2
Hahaha! Yeah, I'm not even going to try to talk music with a Breaking Benjamin fanboy. Nice try, though.
BlackstarSirius 2 years ago
yeahhhhh,so what,i like a few of their songs,sooo,seether was on tour with b.b so stfu once again,try something else,AND,seether dont suck,they never did,i assume/hope they never will!
buffguy0 2 years ago
Nope. Not gonna work.
BlackstarSirius 2 years ago
bye bye twat wrinkle!
buffguy0 2 years ago
Wtf? Seether doesn't suck! Never say that you fuckwad.
Quatermain98526 2 years ago 4
Help! Help! I'm being censored!
Finding Beauty in Negative Spaces has a few catchy songs but completely lacks the lyrical depth or intensity of their earlier albums. It's essentially the same bland radio hard rock that you hear everywhere else.
Their stage performance is still top-notch like always, but the song writing has really taken a blow.
BlackstarSirius 2 years ago
I agree, to some extent. FBINS wasn't their best, at all. But the lyrical depth is just as good as the rest, but more varried. It's not always about a relationship gone bad like Dislaimer and Karma and Effect were, and a lot of their songs on this one weren't even hard rock, and they do stand out from the rest of radio rock.
Quatermain98526 2 years ago 5
I think there deffinately was more experimenting with the subject matter and the melodies, but it just doesn't seem as articulately written.
Also, I miss the "No Swearing" rule they had for Karma and Effect. It's so easy for musicians to add the word "Fucking" to a weak line in order to make it seem more intense.
BlackstarSirius 2 years ago 2
Im a huge Seether fan. And I gotta agree with both of you. Seethers lyrics were never complex, ever. Even back with Saron Gas "Wish you were a beer, the thirst I wanna drink." But the simplicity is what makes it Seether. I just wish on FBINS Shaun didn't use effects for his voice and shit. He didn't need it. But take the pianos on WalkAwayFromTheSun, I hated that at first. It wasn't the rugged Seether i'm use to. But its that diversity that keeps them apart from being another radio band.
knoxnh 2 years ago 4
Well said, FBINIS had a few goo points, but was rather unexpected. I'm really hoping for a healthy new blend of their roots and new diversities with their rumored new album for 2009, with previously unreleased Saron Gas songs! I think someone told me Shaun wants to start a side project, a solo sorta thing where he makes 'lighter' songs, *shivers* God I hope that was wrong, it's their darkness that drew me in.
Quatermain98526 2 years ago 4
@Quatermain98526 FBINS was shit when you compare it to their other stuff. I was in awe when I heard something so amazing like K&E and then turned to shitty like FBINS. Everything was good when Pat was in the band. Shaun said when Pat left he could experiment more. He needs to stop experimenting and start producing the shit that got everybody to like this band. Because FBINS attracts Nickelback fans...
itsallgood239 1 year ago
disclaimer is my favorite but the other 2 are worth buying I got all three but I think there's another one before disclaimer 2
JLA12301985 2 years ago
The other one before Disclaimer 2 was Disclaimer
and the one before that was Fragile, Seether known at this time Saron Gas, Fragile is only available in South Africa
Angelsearcher 2 years ago
yeah I'm aware of their old name but thanks for the info that gives me more to know about them lol
JLA12301985 2 years ago
@Quatermain98526 well I found FBINS in the alternative metal section along with their other albums, like suicide was on the softer album, but the heaviest song they have made.
FamGuy1995 1 year ago
@FamGuy1995 I found it in the pop/rock section. Seether is difficult to classify, but if you asked me i would say, alternative/post-grunge/hard/rock.
Quatermain98526 1 year ago
bullshit why do people got to pick on the rock bands like you do? They made it to the radio & the popularity so why bitch most of today's artists ain't got even a touch of talent so why pick on the good ones?
JLA12301985 2 years ago
3:47 - 3:50 i love the way he swings his hair around, its so kool I WANT HAIR LIKE THAT!!!
Seether2769 3 years ago 2
NO ONE rocks harder that SEETHER!!!!
seetherfreak218 3 years ago 4
And who said Kurt Cobain died.... :)
Stra2casterAtHotmail 3 years ago 3
I wished I could had gone see them -.-' Damn it !
InesGivenToFly 3 years ago 2
SEETHER fucking rock!
seether69a 3 years ago
i luv from 3:00 till the end...
Seether rulez!! ^^
KingHiscore69 3 years ago
Please everyone stop bitching and bickering about who's better.
Seether and SOAD battle is simple. Two different sounds to two great bands...that are INCOMPARABLE!
And to all the people dissing this song. Don't listen to it and waste both of our time by negatively posting. the band is 10x greater than you will ever be.
And in closing Seether is amazing live and so is system of a down. Stop dissing both the bands bc it takes guts and talents to put out music.
PCE
krazyman06 3 years ago 10
I'm reading over this debate between who of the two bands is better, System of a Down or Seether. If you want to settle that argument it's RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE ALWAYS
zep123dmc 3 years ago
faggot
GreenAiden555 3 years ago
Way too fast Shaun. Slow it down a bit. It's so much more kick ass nowadays.
Twister1227 3 years ago
It's an old version of the song. Shaun plays C5 up in the 10th fret still.
GreenAiden555 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
i'm sorry this is just garbage, i can't watch it, it's unwatchable it's so horrible.
FisandCram 3 years ago
In reply to BUDDBRUZ's lame ass and lame comment.
Donkey21Punch 3 years ago
i reckon they sound better live
Wraithhawk22 3 years ago 2
SEETHER IS THE BEST!
And That's The One Of The Best Seether Songs!
Point! (.)
MrRoamer 3 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
system of a down needles is WAY BETTER!
skateskateskate02 3 years ago
thats true, but this isnt bad eather
marnix08 3 years ago
No to me.
garretbash133 3 years ago
its okay with your own opinion, i was just voicing mine to piss off some people XD
skateskateskate02 3 years ago
Cool.
garretbash133 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
this is the worst piece of shit I have heard in a long time...
SYSTEM OWNS!
FisandCram 3 years ago
I thought that was an awesome performance, thats excellent singing especially for live!!! : D
buzzlightyear10 4 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
shaun is drunk
seether18 4 years ago
Well I dont know about drunk, its obvious he's had a few though. Shaun is a lot better live now than back then, I think so.
disclaimer05 4 years ago 3
no question about it, this current tour is the best. i went on november 13th, and they were still opening with gasoline. must be cool to hear them open w/ no jesus christ
seether18 4 years ago
I saw them in January with 3days grace and Econoline Crush, Seether played maybe 8 songs, and they opened with no jesus christ, hearing that song in an arena live was awesome.
Stra2casterAtHotmail 3 years ago
oh deffinatly. theres no comparison
dorkwad31 4 years ago 2
Sad part is, that wouldn't surprise me. it's obvious he's had a few, that's for sure.
GreenAiden555 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
better lead singer?
wow serj shits all of this guy
plz give me thumbs down and abuse me :S
buddbruz 4 years ago
Fail troll is fail
GreenAiden555 3 years ago
Serj sounds and looks like a fucking towel head camel jockey piece of shit. That taliban loving loser can't hold a candle to shaun's vocals.
Donkey21Punch 3 years ago
And this motherfucker has absolutley no talent whatsoever...this song in particular, is horrible.Does it have any meaning?I don't think so...and that guy that sings looks like he's over-dosing too much,too often...hopefully he'll die as a garbage on a street...and I wish you the same...
SYSTEM IS THE BEST.
FisandCram 3 years ago
System of a down sucks. And, yes this song does have a meaning. But I'm sure somebody like you wouldn't be able to see it.
I'd type more, but my keys on my keybaord are broken and its a pain using an on-screen keybaord.
madhawk94 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
SOAD doesnt suck.... YOU SUCK! MOTHER FUCKR
YOU SHOULD DIE!
STUPID PIG
ASSHOLE
COWARD
DIE!
yuriiXD 3 years ago
shut the fuck up nobody cares
birdchirp123 3 years ago 2
the point is it sucks BALLS.
so listen to a real band who has meaning besides their stupidity.
skateskateskate02 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
SYSTEM IS SIMPLY THE BEST BAND ON THE PLANET.
too bad for this band, i wish they had talent.
maybe if they had an original they might compare in separate sentences.
skateskateskate02 3 years ago
look at the charts and record sales, look were seethers ORIGINALS(ie rise above this and fake it just the most recent) and then look where system is
jefffhardy 3 years ago
FisandCram - I'm not associated enough with System Of A Down to comment on them, but it's rather immature of you to come onto Seether video, call them talentless and say the song has no meaning without any research, like i said before, i don't know enough about SOAD, but i'll say they probably don't want a dumbass like you as a fan of them.
CaseyTheGinger 3 years ago 2
just watch the video stop hating on seether, if you dont like this version then dont watch it
seether0001 4 years ago
hey people srr, system of a down is a great band, i'm sure, just in my opinion seether's needles is better in my opinion and probably in the eyes of all seether fans, but two completely different songs
Galhorian 4 years ago 4
Seether played at Kirstenbosch gardens on the 6th and fuck it was insane
SlipknotBMXer 4 years ago 5
bahh... if they ever came to northwest england id be front row man!!
kaari 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Fat Kurt Cobain?
terraninety 4 years ago
G O I N G T O S E E T H E M O N J A N U A R Y 24TH 2 0 0 8, CANT FUCKING WAIT, I love seether, they will be playing with 3DG and Econline Crush
Stra2casterAtHotmail 4 years ago
dude, i'm just saying, it's just a matter of opinion, but if you think something else is better, go post it there, or else you're always going to be judged for the worse
Galhorian 4 years ago
system of a down's version is mindless hardcore if you ask me, seether's needles is much better, in every way, shaun morgan is a better leadsinger anyways
Galhorian 4 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
system of a down's version of needles is much better in my opinion
socalkevinz 4 years ago
Yeah...Two different songs.
GreenAiden555 4 years ago
seether kicks ass live my favorite band ever!!!!!
fateVSdeception 4 years ago 2
I love Seether ^_^ they was so awesome when they were here in NC Charlotte!!
JonathansGurl91 4 years ago
Awesome song, played it when they were in Detroit, love to hear em live
b9483d 4 years ago
great freakin song
ryantupac24 4 years ago
This is NEEDLES not THE NEEDLE AND THE DAMAGE DONE. Yeah..as if they sounded anything alike anyways.
blahyt8 4 years ago
I can't stop listening to this song. One of my favs. I have not seen one bad live performance from Seether. Makes me pumped up to see their upcoming concert in Oklahoma.
staind687 4 years ago
Great song!! :)
btw. Look at that dust cloud when people started jumpin :D :D
Strategylover 4 years ago 2
lol that makes me happy =]
dorkwad31 4 years ago
this is seether's song not neil young's
crywolf383 4 years ago
im not talking about this song. im talking about the needle and the damage done.
seethermaniac 4 years ago
So? Why you're talking about the needle and the damage done?
Beaver0305 4 years ago
Oh, don't worry, I saw your comment at the end of this pg. and I understood it all.
Beaver0305 4 years ago
o my bad
crywolf383 4 years ago
jo, da geb ich dir recht! sau geil, besonders die stimme von shaun! Seether roXXX!!!
BulletproofGuy93 4 years ago
seether is such an amazing band! die sin live so hammer des gibts net...ums ez au mal in deutsch zu sagen:D
hykergolku 4 years ago
ROK ON SEETHER!
Mindfreak3251 4 years ago
when they sign live, it looks like in real... good group
T4jFun 4 years ago
i like nickelback....but seether deffinatly is better
dorkwad31 4 years ago
The most powerful Seether song, I can't wait the new album... I think it will still be kickass and very emotional, without Callahan, there are some videos (Needle and The Damage Done...) which show it.
darkcook 4 years ago
its not their song though. they covered it by neil young.
seethermaniac 4 years ago
for sure
rezgol 4 years ago
seether is DEFINETLEY better than nickelback...i think
XXXcrazyXbitch666XXX 4 years ago
aaaaah i luuuuuuuv seeether LOVE!
kaari 4 years ago
I bet the drummer loves this song. My favorite song by Seether. I can't wait to see them sometime.
BigNebraskaFan 4 years ago
Best song in the world
rockfan1221 4 years ago
my fav song by them...easily
dorkwad31 4 years ago
beautiful music
kaari 5 years ago
awesome
Wolvereyne 5 years ago
i love seether they r my fav band ive seen em live they kick fucking arse i mean that i went fucking mental at there gig they were amazing thats why thre my fav band and ill be seeing them again as soon as possible!!!
downanotherday06 5 years ago
seether yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
bulletfan22 5 years ago
where i can i download this from?
jvalen82 5 years ago
I found the whole show in emule... ;)
Beaver0305 5 years ago
jesus! theyre good live
buzzlightyear10 5 years ago
Seether is my fav band! this song is fuckin' badass , i love this performance i've seen like ... 4-5 songs from this concert and they ROCKS!!!Shaun's voice is in incredible ... SEETHER RUUUULES!!! \m/ 0(>_<)o \m/
shamanahala 5 years ago
seether IS god
NickG 5 years ago
NickG is right! Seether is GOD! I love them to death! They kick more than ass!
butterflytear 5 years ago
You can find the show in emule. Search "Seether" in the Video section and... try the Big Bang 9 server. Thanks for comment ^_^
Beaver0305 5 years ago
wow! where can I find the whole show?
gNoLeWiS 5 years ago
fuckin awesome glad someone finally added Needles on here!!
jvalen82 5 years ago
absolutely rocks ass
RonDay 5 years ago