I know from a pianist that studied with Arcadi Volodos that Volodos could play all the Beethoven sonatas by ear!!! He remebered them just by listening and he can play all of them without ever having seen the score. Now that's impressive!
There is something magical about the piano, wouldn't you agree? Out of all the instruments, it is the most inviting for a young person to play, because all you have to do is press buttons to get sound, and everyone knows how much kids loves pressing buttons... As a child I went to sunday school at chruch and there was the nicest concert grand steinway. I would always find myself sitting at it, mostly just looking and feeling, pressing random notes. I was fascinated, still am, and always will be
Barenboim is kind. LL 's approach here, as in all of his performances, is elementary.
I would like not to believe that LL is not the future of classical music; unfortunately, his backers put him in highly visible positions to which young artists aspire. Tasteless.
Weird seeing Lang being the pupil in a master class when I've watched videos of him giving them! Lang Lang is an exceptional pianist, haters gonna hate.
Lang Lang sucks. This is very basic stuff Barenboim is discussing with him. Barenboim is too polite to point out that LL plays the rhythm of the opening bars wrong. LL bangs away on the easier show pieces and plays as flashy as possible but I never find him ever playing any truly difficult pieces like Balakirev Islamey, Prokofiev g minor cto or some tricky double note pieces because he can't waffle and bullshit his audience. Any shit for brains can play Hungarian Rhapsodies fast and loud.
@CaramelMarshmallow So you have no objection to my pointing out how LL is one of the biggest assholes ever to play piano. He's not an asshole so long as he's not playing. Regarding Barenboim, he's a very intelligent musician, top notch but English is NOT his native language. The point he made in his book was that music is pure sound and for that reason one cannot expect the musical score to tell everything. Good point. Music is a foreign language to LL. He can't read between the notes.
@jdbrown371 I think Lang Lang is a showy, superficial musician, and he doesn't have the emotion depth of other pianists. However, I don't think he comes across as wanting you to think he does.
@CaramelMarshmallow In order to be a truly bad pianist, you need to have some talent or even a lot of talent to be bad. I can't rail against an inexperienced teenager taking lessons and you can't fault people for being beginners or of low skill. Some lower skilled pianists can be truly musical at times within their level of competence. In order to be horrible, truly horrible you need a high enough level of piano skills to make the absolute lack of musicianship apparent. LL fits the bill.
@billbear99 I understand your point billbear... and I agree in principle. Barenboim has a natural instinct and an immaculate taste for how exactly to phrase but his technique is clearly less impressive than Lang Lang's. But since this video was made Lang Lang has matured and we can see in the video that he learns very fast. His superior technique enables him to focus more on understanding the works he's playing instead of mastering the technical difficulties. He seems to have enough sensibility.
To be honest, in my opinion Lang Lang is a greater pianist than Barenboim. I heard some Beethoven sonatas from Barenboim which were totally uninspired and without any individual style... Barenboim is good, but overestimated. Lang Lang on the other hand is very special and isn´t scared to show his expression. Lang Lang is already one of the great, great pianists, and still has lots to offer in the future.
@hessu3 I have beethoven sonatas played by Barenboim. He plays them too clinically, not enough passion. Lang Lang is more natural in his approach and more passionate but he doesn't have the same profound understanding of the works as Barenboim has. Also, when a pianist is playing a piece he should not put too much of himself into the performance, it's equally bad to get too much from the pianist as it is to get not enough from him. So, individual style is not the issue - musical synthesis is.
@dukeleopard: thanks for the answer! I prefer individual style, and to my point of view, the artist may not only, but should put his very own expression into the piece, even if it might be different from what the composer idea was. Thats what makes music living and every piece once again changing all over the years. But i agree to you, that a profound understanding of the work and a continuing struggle is necessary, and on that basic, an individual idea. Lang Lang has it :)
I have an impression that Beethoven didn't even thought about all that Barenboim said. A bit too dialectic, too much I. Kant...Lang Lang of course gets everything as usual
Tom an Yerry or how ever is written was his first influence, for the love of my big dick!! while the greatest pianists were influenced by observing other at least pianist, this lang lang is a JOKE!
It may be of interest to some to know that Barenboim was a protege of Rubinstein. R gave B advice when B was still a child & later became a good friend. Rubinstein advised B's parents and warned them against too early a career. The value of Mentoring in music is a long tradition going back centuries. Rubinstein instructed Sol Hurok to take B to America. B says R "basically negotiated my contract "& started me off in my career. The music is the thing -not the antics - Listen to the music.
Lang Lang is a great musician and getting better all the time. He has no ego - watch him here. He is also very modest and spends a lot of time helping young musicians.
@AKhajavi Oh please give me a break...I hate his feelings, he always has to show them (off) and that's what I can't stand. You have to hide something like nature that hides its roots, sorry for being so pathetically poetic, but Lang Lang really annoys me with his ever-smiling-overwhelmed-with-astonishment-face!!!!! And for my dearest beautiful Daniel....he's such a superior musical intelligence, of enormous freshness, eloquence, wit...what is he doing in the same room with this boring old man??!
Barenboim is the master of piano understandment! He understanding what he says to play on the piano! No one else know the piano more then how he says it is! He is the best at piano talking ever! And a good piano player to! He is the best ever ever and will always be forever ever! And anyone who doesn't agree i hope they die of that African disease that was the guest on Oprah show! You know the one that makes you barf out your ass and shit out your mouth at the same time! No offense!
Anyone could probably learn to play the sheet music, but to reach further than the notes..to really make it sensual and warm and surprising you have to be as big as these masters..
again, you can see that music is not just depending on technical abilities, but also on the ability of interpreting such a piece from Beethoven... that's why i feel kind of sorry for Lang lang or to so many other ambitious (especially Chinese because they are extra motivated) people because to learn something just by heart will not be suffice to become a Master in any craft or art...
again, you can see that music is not just depending on technical abilities, but also on the ability of interpreting such a piece from Beethoven... that's why i feel kind of sorry for Lang lang or to so many other ambitious ( especially Chinese) people because to learn something just by heart will not be suffice to become a Master in any craft or art...
Thank you so much for posting this masterclass! So much insight here. Barenboim really teaches how to think so broadly and sophisticatedly of music. Great job both Barenboim and Lang Lang.
The most of us dont have the ear trained enough to take opinion between those two.
I learnt from Glenn Gould, there are two criterias: Aesthetic and techical....aesthetical criteria is a waist of time and energy...we must respect all opinions and have mind open enough to understand what we believe is "bad" "mistaked" or "ugly"
The important thing is not who has the last word. The important thing to a student is see the class, the discussion between a good pianist and a good professor.
It must be enough, to learn from this class or academical chat. But If one wants to play like lang lang or Borenboim..then waist the time, cause music is inside every one.
whats with all the hate for lang lang you people are ridiculous its like a few people say some bad things then all of you just ride the bandwagon i hate jealous non professionals who havent even been accepted to a conservatory(yes, i have) and they think they can judge people. i want to see lang lang perform this sonata i think he would bring alot of energy to it. it seem to be one of those that give you room for interpretation, you can release anger and pain in movt 1.
Thanks, anonymous. People are very cutting and unkind on some of these forums. I don't think you have to be accepted for a conversatory to have an opinion. However, to my mind, anyone who thinks Lang Lang is not talented could have a suspect viewpoint. I also do not see the point of being negative about people. Lang Lang seems a nice guy and does not deserve this criticism.
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That's how red chinese are peasant and impolite and rude and unmannered like lang lang! Plus cheeky and idiot and empty without any soul so how that clown could be a great pianist? He is just another cheap and fake product made in china.
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lang lang is so arrogent. he doesnt appreciate and respect the master beside him. he doesnt listen and doesnt wait for Barenboim to finish his comment. i guess he thinks he's better than Barenboim
With 1.5 billions of chinese no wonder he got some job! But he is a true joke without the chinese sponsoring and money! Lang lang has no class and no soul to be a great pianist such as brendel. The touch of class you can't buy it with money and propaganda!
Funny enough, Lang Lang's playing reflects quite well the fact that his inspiration for the piano derived from a Tom and Jerry cartoon. Lang Lang - in line with some others, of course - really intoxicates the classical music market. Looking back at giants such as Josef Hofmann or Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli one must realize that since those days every single generation has got some steps further away from the truly great art of the piano.
This is a very interesting and even inspiring document, indeed! By the way: Lang Lang is by far the worst prepared participant of this masterclass. Almost any other piano student with at least some talent and some work would have reached a higher level of interpretation before consulting Barenboim.
Vaya lujo!! Lo pone a caldo, pero qué lujo de clase. Barenboim es un maestro de los grandes. Se nota la sabiduría de director de orquesta. QUé profundidad de comentarios. Espectacular!!
The truth is that he's just being a pretentious twat. That's what musical analysis is about, just coming out with cringeworthy and pretentious comments, like those. I'm doing a music degree, so i'm qualified to say this.
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I'm impressed with Barenboim the teacher in this video clip. He has some very insightful comments on the Beethoven (he recorded all of the sonatas). However, I never cared much for him as a performer or conductor.
Masterclasses are a little absurd things: a "professor", convincing you that HIS interpretation is the best and the right one, no matter if the "pupil" is Rubinstein or Arrau or Kissin or Lang Lang or Liszt himself, the "professor" always HAS TO CHANGE something of your playing. I have never attended a masterclass where the "pupil" played and the "professor" said "ok, that's perfect!", even if the "pupil" played that same piece 1000 times in every country for thousands people...
You are both so far off it isn't funny. If either of you even understood what it is to be a teacher or to be a virtuoso, then you would both cut your tounges off lest the ghost of Franz Liszt do it himself.
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Oh Yeah ??...I understand both two my dear because i am a vrtuoso and a teacher. Anyway nobody pretend to be funny here, despite the three assholes: LONLON, Kadouch, and Biss.
Is a pitty but Barembooim ( with great talent) has always the vicious attitude try to do everything: Pinistl conductor , and "Politic" ¡¡¡¡¡yapapapá......that´s the stereotipe of most assholes: yapapáa...or yatatatáaa...Come on. Subjetivity to the trash. We need more cerebrality, Art doesn´t mean no brain.
Is this your version of a debate? I told you, you're nothing but a frustrated bastard. FRUSTRATED POOR OLD BASTARD!
You're capable of criticize anybody if you may insult someone. I'm sure is just matter of time to find a bad comment about Arrau, Serkin, Rachmaninoff or Rubistein. You're a lost case. YOU'RE NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!! You're a poor child who attacks someone's mother when someone tells you the truth. Poor guy.
Ayyy...foooooo Nothing , nothing....nothing.... you look very gay......
Arrau was a great musician more than a pianist. he has extremely wonderful recordings, but some of them are just no beautiful for me. Technically he was emphiric, despite he tought the contrary. Serkin was a very good from the technicakl side, but ugly sound, ugly body language...he used to "Eat" each note he stroke....a kind of "Tourette syndrome", and when he rised his arms as a monkey , he looks like cheetta.
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Concerning Rachmaninoff, he was a great pisnist with a kind of strange technique , but it worked fine for him.
Concerning Rubinstein he was maybe the King of pianists.
So.....where did you find those cocnclusions about my taste on pianists? piece of tiny and putrefact shit ?.
The think of the "Mother atacks" ......is for retarded as you....who take it seriously. .....You don´t know the forntier between the real and the joke. My jokes are heavy , just for assholes like you.
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you obviously don´t understand it becuase you are nobody . Unfortunately my case is different . SO if you don´t understand it , or you don´t believe it, i really don´t care about. and you can LOL all the time you want to do it.
Good bye asshole and lang lang and baremboim asskisser.
somebody on a forum posted this video link. I love what he says in the beginning, It really answers a lot of questions about music for me.
caladwenaeariel 2 months ago
great teach by baremboim, the second after Claudio Arrau
manuelegirolamo 2 months ago
3:00
"Do you think... do you think of that chord in..in..in..in..as one instrument..as..errr..."
Barenboim is an amazing pianist, no doubt about it. He is a bit crazy though.
Udders666 3 months ago
@Udders666 C'mon He's not crazy, he just didn't know the right way to say what he was thinking. Don't judge.
punkypenguin321 2 months ago
I know from a pianist that studied with Arcadi Volodos that Volodos could play all the Beethoven sonatas by ear!!! He remebered them just by listening and he can play all of them without ever having seen the score. Now that's impressive!
masterofsynapsis 4 months ago
There is something magical about the piano, wouldn't you agree? Out of all the instruments, it is the most inviting for a young person to play, because all you have to do is press buttons to get sound, and everyone knows how much kids loves pressing buttons... As a child I went to sunday school at chruch and there was the nicest concert grand steinway. I would always find myself sitting at it, mostly just looking and feeling, pressing random notes. I was fascinated, still am, and always will be
christopher19894 4 months ago
Thank you so much for this wonderfull video.
zzausel 5 months ago
Barenboim is pretty much the best for Beethoven music everrrrrrrrr :D
ECKSway 5 months ago 6
Chillex with them arguments, why cant we all just learn from everyone. No matter how good u are, there's alot that u still can learn. Peace
Sudokubank 6 months ago
why does baremboim's piano sound brighter
darrencjc 6 months ago
Barenboim is kind. LL 's approach here, as in all of his performances, is elementary.
I would like not to believe that LL is not the future of classical music; unfortunately, his backers put him in highly visible positions to which young artists aspire. Tasteless.
MrPlaywork 6 months ago
Weird seeing Lang being the pupil in a master class when I've watched videos of him giving them! Lang Lang is an exceptional pianist, haters gonna hate.
Udders666 7 months ago
Lang Lang sucks. This is very basic stuff Barenboim is discussing with him. Barenboim is too polite to point out that LL plays the rhythm of the opening bars wrong. LL bangs away on the easier show pieces and plays as flashy as possible but I never find him ever playing any truly difficult pieces like Balakirev Islamey, Prokofiev g minor cto or some tricky double note pieces because he can't waffle and bullshit his audience. Any shit for brains can play Hungarian Rhapsodies fast and loud.
jdbrown371 7 months ago
@jdbrown371 I think Barenboim is just a poseur.
CaramelMarshmallow 7 months ago
@CaramelMarshmallow
Позер, скорее всего, Ты!)
MyEli84 6 months ago
@MyEli84 Я не столь же претенциозен как он
CaramelMarshmallow 6 months ago
@CaramelMarshmallow
Напевно,він має на це моральне право!)
MyEli84 6 months ago
@MyEli84 Come again?
CaramelMarshmallow 6 months ago
@jdbrown371 I mean seriously, what sort of pseudo-philosophical bullshit is this?
"Music, absolute music, only expresses itself through sound."
Well, no shit.
That's like saying you have to have eyes to look at paintings.
CaramelMarshmallow 7 months ago
@CaramelMarshmallow So you have no objection to my pointing out how LL is one of the biggest assholes ever to play piano. He's not an asshole so long as he's not playing. Regarding Barenboim, he's a very intelligent musician, top notch but English is NOT his native language. The point he made in his book was that music is pure sound and for that reason one cannot expect the musical score to tell everything. Good point. Music is a foreign language to LL. He can't read between the notes.
jdbrown371 7 months ago
@jdbrown371 I think Lang Lang is a showy, superficial musician, and he doesn't have the emotion depth of other pianists. However, I don't think he comes across as wanting you to think he does.
CaramelMarshmallow 6 months ago
@CaramelMarshmallow In order to be a truly bad pianist, you need to have some talent or even a lot of talent to be bad. I can't rail against an inexperienced teenager taking lessons and you can't fault people for being beginners or of low skill. Some lower skilled pianists can be truly musical at times within their level of competence. In order to be horrible, truly horrible you need a high enough level of piano skills to make the absolute lack of musicianship apparent. LL fits the bill.
jdbrown371 6 months ago 2
@jdbrown371 Good point.
CaramelMarshmallow 6 months ago
4:16 people don't seem to understand
ThePinkFloydPig 7 months ago
Lang lang play 10 sec. Well wait a minute! stop! lol
lePistolero 8 months ago
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billbear99 8 months ago
I'm sure Barenboim would like to have Lang Lang's technique. I'm equally sure Lang Lang would like to have one percent of Barenboim's musicality.
billbear99 8 months ago
@billbear99 I understand your point billbear... and I agree in principle. Barenboim has a natural instinct and an immaculate taste for how exactly to phrase but his technique is clearly less impressive than Lang Lang's. But since this video was made Lang Lang has matured and we can see in the video that he learns very fast. His superior technique enables him to focus more on understanding the works he's playing instead of mastering the technical difficulties. He seems to have enough sensibility.
dukeleopard 8 months ago
To be honest, in my opinion Lang Lang is a greater pianist than Barenboim. I heard some Beethoven sonatas from Barenboim which were totally uninspired and without any individual style... Barenboim is good, but overestimated. Lang Lang on the other hand is very special and isn´t scared to show his expression. Lang Lang is already one of the great, great pianists, and still has lots to offer in the future.
hessu3 8 months ago
@hessu3 I have beethoven sonatas played by Barenboim. He plays them too clinically, not enough passion. Lang Lang is more natural in his approach and more passionate but he doesn't have the same profound understanding of the works as Barenboim has. Also, when a pianist is playing a piece he should not put too much of himself into the performance, it's equally bad to get too much from the pianist as it is to get not enough from him. So, individual style is not the issue - musical synthesis is.
dukeleopard 8 months ago
@dukeleopard: thanks for the answer! I prefer individual style, and to my point of view, the artist may not only, but should put his very own expression into the piece, even if it might be different from what the composer idea was. Thats what makes music living and every piece once again changing all over the years. But i agree to you, that a profound understanding of the work and a continuing struggle is necessary, and on that basic, an individual idea. Lang Lang has it :)
hessu3 6 months ago
I am sorry I don't know much about piano...but I feel when they touch the keyboard, the sounds are different....why?
bjyjean 9 months ago
to watch a master get a masterclass from a master.. Barenboim seems all that more further away from me now... !
galebreeze 9 months ago
I have an impression that Beethoven didn't even thought about all that Barenboim said. A bit too dialectic, too much I. Kant...Lang Lang of course gets everything as usual
melodije1 9 months ago
mishio nishihara toro? XD
rodpalatolo20 11 months ago
Not Barenboim discusses the work with Lang Lang, but Barenboim TEACH Lang Lang!
arlongan 11 months ago 23
Barenboim wishes he had Lang Langs technique.
Theonedue 11 months ago 2
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@Theonedue what an idiot you are.
1ddbb1 10 months ago
@Theonedue i'm sorry to say this but....he doesn't need lol
drebubbles 2 months ago
How inspiring!
surgere94 11 months ago
A Jew and an Asian talking about european music and making loads of money from playing european music... What happened to the white man?
hbj200 11 months ago
@Solar Jake, um Mozart was playing Mozart at 3
1ddbb1 11 months ago
@1ddbb1 Exactly; Mozart was inspired by a 3 year old.
SolarJakee 10 months ago
@SolarJakee no doubt Communism did not screw you... you should be banned from earth!
1ddbb1 10 months ago
@1ddbb1 woah there..
SolarJakee 10 months ago
Tom an Yerry or how ever is written was his first influence, for the love of my big dick!! while the greatest pianists were influenced by observing other at least pianist, this lang lang is a JOKE!
1ddbb1 11 months ago
@1ddbb1 He did start learning piano when he was about 4.
SolarJakee 11 months ago
Two fifth raters.
marcxopoco 1 year ago
fascinating!!! absolutely! ...and Lang Lang has but a fantastic voice too! Great Barenboim, what a musical and artistic sensitivity.
kiaragre 1 year ago 2
Barenboim is the biggest musical genius in the at the moment.
SuhmMusic 1 year ago
Barenboim still the best at this time. Master teaching the future master.
Future Daniel or Arthur
LKLKILY 1 year ago
is this before lang lang was famous?
Aryamanable 1 year ago
hehe people in the audience looked confused
ericehuang 1 year ago
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ThePVGS1 1 year ago
what I also see in this video is that there is a chinese pianoplayer and an israelian piano player both speaking ENGLISH, and it works very well
guioume 1 year ago
Which piece are they playing?
Bassini007 1 year ago
@Bassini007
I think the Appasionata by Beethoven
ulizinho 1 year ago
Lang Lang is much better than Barenboim.
vkb1272 1 year ago
@vkb1272
yes, Barenboim has clumsy fingers. But i love his huge knowledge.
greetings from Barenboim City
ulizinho 1 year ago
@vkb1272 Lang Lang = Daniel Barenboim
APRCVG188 1 year ago
2.00 hahahaha "ththth that höhöh was höhö hehe realyfunny he " :D:D:D
karazh 1 year ago
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Oh why did PBS have to stop broadcasting programs like this on television? :(
Crad4DRC 1 year ago
Oh why did PBS have to stop broadcastings programs like this on television? :(
Crad4DRC 1 year ago 2
It may be of interest to some to know that Barenboim was a protege of Rubinstein. R gave B advice when B was still a child & later became a good friend. Rubinstein advised B's parents and warned them against too early a career. The value of Mentoring in music is a long tradition going back centuries. Rubinstein instructed Sol Hurok to take B to America. B says R "basically negotiated my contract "& started me off in my career. The music is the thing -not the antics - Listen to the music.
frogmanpiano 1 year ago
Jjaja Bareimboim , en la parte mas dificil no te queda mas tiempo para explicarsela jaja que grande!
StreamOfMetal 1 year ago
wow for anyone practicing this piece, this is priceless
melodieluv 1 year ago
This video is a great source of inspiration.
SandrineSoprano 1 year ago 3
This shows how humble Lang Lang is, he is more of a superstar than Barenboim, but he is willing to take direction and learn new things.
killingangel707 1 year ago
this program is so funny! these guys realize that they didn´t know how to play the pieces properly! ja ja ja! daniel is freaky genius
pelusaesfeo 1 year ago
This is a heavily cut video form the originally recorded masterclass.
It omits a good 10 minues in the middle
Patinho 1 year ago
Lang Lang is a great musician and getting better all the time. He has no ego - watch him here. He is also very modest and spends a lot of time helping young musicians.
cabottobac 1 year ago
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When my poop is mushy, i call it lang lang.
bsd300d 1 year ago
i dislike lang lang.
padsax1 1 year ago
@padsax1 then dont watch it. Pretty simple
Chaney547 1 year ago
lol, turn on the captions they ARE FUNNY!
Baremboim talks about clinton and the russians!!
Bon0 1 year ago 2
I like lang Lang performance much better Barenboim.
He plays with allot of feeling not that much like barenboim with technique. Please, listen, you will see what I am saing.
AKhajavi 1 year ago
@AKhajavi Oh please give me a break...I hate his feelings, he always has to show them (off) and that's what I can't stand. You have to hide something like nature that hides its roots, sorry for being so pathetically poetic, but Lang Lang really annoys me with his ever-smiling-overwhelmed-with-astonishment-face!!!!! And for my dearest beautiful Daniel....he's such a superior musical intelligence, of enormous freshness, eloquence, wit...what is he doing in the same room with this boring old man??!
gitaclick 1 year ago
Why is he playing this so stiff and dry?
SteinwayMan13 1 year ago
Barenboim is the master of piano understandment! He understanding what he says to play on the piano! No one else know the piano more then how he says it is! He is the best at piano talking ever! And a good piano player to! He is the best ever ever and will always be forever ever! And anyone who doesn't agree i hope they die of that African disease that was the guest on Oprah show! You know the one that makes you barf out your ass and shit out your mouth at the same time! No offense!
brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
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brassmonkeyjew 1 year ago
This is very touching for me to watch. The old master has so much to share. The young master is so humble and receptive . . .
pianobanana 1 year ago
What piece are they playing? The book says Beethoven, but I have no idea which Beethoven piece it is.
ctrainyu 1 year ago
@ctrainyu Its Beethovens Apassionata Movement No.1 . Check it out , its really beautiful.
lookarond 1 year ago
Tom and Jerry FTW!!!
aquaman284 1 year ago
172085
camiladafiel 1 year ago
I love this video amazing...tnx for the post
aizendarwin 1 year ago
Master classes of a Genius to a great disciple
Royhorse1 1 year ago
Very insightful comments by Baremboim, and good playing by Lang Lang.
OrangeSodaKing 1 year ago
just wonderful
mattiasims 1 year ago
Anyone could probably learn to play the sheet music, but to reach further than the notes..to really make it sensual and warm and surprising you have to be as big as these masters..
Dragiss1 1 year ago
that's why all these masters like to teach langlang so much..... And thanks for sharing
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again, you can see that music is not just depending on technical abilities, but also on the ability of interpreting such a piece from Beethoven... that's why i feel kind of sorry for Lang lang or to so many other ambitious (especially Chinese because they are extra motivated) people because to learn something just by heart will not be suffice to become a Master in any craft or art...
georgschiller 1 year ago
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again, you can see that music is not just depending on technical abilities, but also on the ability of interpreting such a piece from Beethoven... that's why i feel kind of sorry for Lang lang or to so many other ambitious ( especially Chinese) people because to learn something just by heart will not be suffice to become a Master in any craft or art...
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georgschiller 1 year ago
@3screamingkids:
haha xD yeah, it's right ^^
muzikantelis 2 years ago
At 9:30: You know you're something when Daniel Barenboim is turning your page for you.
3screamingkids 2 years ago 81
@3screamingkids :o) Really!
codonauta 1 year ago
@3screamingkids Although I can't stand Lang Lang..I don't know why. MAybe just his humour.
gitaclick 1 year ago
@3screamingkids Dont get excited mate, all the teachers do that for you...
sadramus 6 months ago
He's absolutely right. In my opinion, once science explains impossible secrets in a rational way, it becomes unnecessary.
sclyfes1212 2 years ago
thanks for sharing
boyz626 2 years ago 2
Thanks a lot for sharing!
alienrocks 2 years ago
Music is fascinating!
occeo 2 years ago 3
Thank you so much for posting this masterclass! So much insight here. Barenboim really teaches how to think so broadly and sophisticatedly of music. Great job both Barenboim and Lang Lang.
fuzzyhamsta123 2 years ago
at 2:48 if Barenboim looked at me like that before i started to play something i would shit myself!
nojstradamus 2 years ago 41
lmao
NickyRamone77 2 years ago
@nojstradamus hhahaahh SO true...
sleazebee 9 months ago
If you hate Lang Lang so bad, why bother watching his videos and then writing comments? Go watch some other pianists. As simple as that!
Vanadis240 2 years ago 4
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Barenboim is an arrogant idiot!
It is a fact!! Barenboim cannot be heard if you play 100 piano players like him to listen to!
No personality at all!
If you play Glenn gould and 99 aspiring piano-players...Well, they will instantly hear the genious of Gould!
Same thing for Horowitz, Gilels, Richter, Rubenstein, Michelangeli, Arguerich, Kissin, and many more stars of today and also old time greats!
Barenboim is NOBODY!! Sounds like everybody!!
Please bring me a "piano roll".
maxhansendk 2 years ago
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Dude, shut the fuck up you retarded dipshit.
Lity10 2 years ago
@maxhansendk You are a disgrace. You should not be on YouTube caliing everyone idiots. Well, fuck you, and good bye.
APRCVG188 1 year ago
Even, many technical opinions are only taste of each one in the background...
Be careful of hide your ego behind "technical" or "academic" opinions.
English is not my nature language.
helmusico 2 years ago
The most of us dont have the ear trained enough to take opinion between those two.
I learnt from Glenn Gould, there are two criterias: Aesthetic and techical....aesthetical criteria is a waist of time and energy...we must respect all opinions and have mind open enough to understand what we believe is "bad" "mistaked" or "ugly"
helmusico 2 years ago 2
Maybe they are deeply agree but they need to show a good class, and a counter opinions are important to understand.
Good job from Lang lang and Borenboim.
I would like see free tutorial videos from Herbie Hancock....Earl Hines did it.
helmusico 2 years ago
The important thing is not who has the last word. The important thing to a student is see the class, the discussion between a good pianist and a good professor.
It must be enough, to learn from this class or academical chat. But If one wants to play like lang lang or Borenboim..then waist the time, cause music is inside every one.
helmusico 2 years ago
Fun video. Barenboim is right -- lay off the over-use of rubato. :)
remline 2 years ago
whats with all the hate for lang lang you people are ridiculous its like a few people say some bad things then all of you just ride the bandwagon i hate jealous non professionals who havent even been accepted to a conservatory(yes, i have) and they think they can judge people. i want to see lang lang perform this sonata i think he would bring alot of energy to it. it seem to be one of those that give you room for interpretation, you can release anger and pain in movt 1.
go lang lang
anonymousQ45 2 years ago
Thanks, anonymous. People are very cutting and unkind on some of these forums. I don't think you have to be accepted for a conversatory to have an opinion. However, to my mind, anyone who thinks Lang Lang is not talented could have a suspect viewpoint. I also do not see the point of being negative about people. Lang Lang seems a nice guy and does not deserve this criticism.
swanningaround 2 years ago 2
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That's how red chinese are peasant and impolite and rude and unmannered like lang lang! Plus cheeky and idiot and empty without any soul so how that clown could be a great pianist? He is just another cheap and fake product made in china.
pinosworld 2 years ago
barenboim is very articulate....
mdoub 2 years ago 4
but not arrogant as ur commentery!!!
trkmalki 2 years ago
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lang lang is so arrogent. he doesnt appreciate and respect the master beside him. he doesnt listen and doesnt wait for Barenboim to finish his comment. i guess he thinks he's better than Barenboim
develish16 2 years ago
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In fact he is better than Barenboim
musicolorhythm 2 years ago
With 1.5 billions of chinese no wonder he got some job! But he is a true joke without the chinese sponsoring and money! Lang lang has no class and no soul to be a great pianist such as brendel. The touch of class you can't buy it with money and propaganda!
mamboviv 2 years ago
" You make your life unnecessarily difficult ..."
So right :-)))
at 5:04
haruncenani 2 years ago
Funny enough, Lang Lang's playing reflects quite well the fact that his inspiration for the piano derived from a Tom and Jerry cartoon. Lang Lang - in line with some others, of course - really intoxicates the classical music market. Looking back at giants such as Josef Hofmann or Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli one must realize that since those days every single generation has got some steps further away from the truly great art of the piano.
dexterityhunter 2 years ago
This is a very interesting and even inspiring document, indeed! By the way: Lang Lang is by far the worst prepared participant of this masterclass. Almost any other piano student with at least some talent and some work would have reached a higher level of interpretation before consulting Barenboim.
dexterityhunter 2 years ago
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Lang lang is the greatest bullshiter of piano made in china! A cheap product made in china+he looks like a clown
tdtd98 2 years ago
Thankyou wery much for sharing this.
konzolmester 2 years ago
Every milisecond of this video is valuable!!!
Thanks for sharing!!!
lst9162 2 years ago 2
Vaya lujo!! Lo pone a caldo, pero qué lujo de clase. Barenboim es un maestro de los grandes. Se nota la sabiduría de director de orquesta. QUé profundidad de comentarios. Espectacular!!
pelotillo 2 years ago
lokopiano is a loco sob
endofworld39 2 years ago
08/07 from 18-30(CET) at Mezzo!!!
Marcellusalb 2 years ago
Barenboim is a genius. Like with most masterclasses, the master must get frustrated with the pupils. Sometimes they just don't get it.
swanningaround 2 years ago 2
lokopiano, WE WILL KILL YOU. childish agenteenager.
amyslover001 2 years ago
Ay fooo.........i will kill you...........
Shut up and go to your gay party.........with a dildo prepared with tabasco sauce
lokopiano 2 years ago
LOOOOOOOOLL------>l o k o...you are going to get somewhat special...hehe
berlinzerberus 2 years ago
but nonetheless i have to notice that mr.?? barenboim is getting more and more an ugly fat matrone!!
berlinzerberus 2 years ago
HAHAHahahaha.
lokopiano 2 years ago
@berlinzerberus Huh?
APRCVG188 1 year ago
nice play, i like the maestro, he is cool also the other guy's pretty cool too, goooooo keep it up
silsfinest 2 years ago
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A real pair of efeminates.
lokopiano 2 years ago
hehe... LOLL----->right right!
berlinzerberus 2 years ago
does anyone know where I can get more knowledge of what mr. Barenboim is talking about in the beginning?
FutureAbe 2 years ago
The truth is that he's just being a pretentious twat. That's what musical analysis is about, just coming out with cringeworthy and pretentious comments, like those. I'm doing a music degree, so i'm qualified to say this.
Bergunthera 2 years ago
i think he overwhelmes lanlang with information, but what he says is good, just too much to understand. but maybe langlang is fast enough:-)
kowalsky111 2 years ago
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Don´t think so.
WON TON seems to be intelligent , but he is intelligent only for the stupidity and to promote himself to fill his super ego, acting as a clown.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
sorry but i don't understand what you are saying
kowalsky111 2 years ago
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Don´t you understand ?.
finicky............or fastidius.............? efeminate? ...a kind of gay sofisticate behavior without to be a real gay?.
Well .concerning Baremboim i know he is not gay, but the mongoloid ( WONTON) very probably is a potential one ....at least.
lokopiano.
lokopiano 2 years ago
you spelt effeminate worng
ollie3003 2 years ago
So in this case much better i say : GAY.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
Barenboim ftw!!! Take that Lang Lang!
evifnoskcaj 2 years ago
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radioelargentino 2 years ago
I'm impressed with Barenboim the teacher in this video clip. He has some very insightful comments on the Beethoven (he recorded all of the sonatas). However, I never cared much for him as a performer or conductor.
MrLedZepper 2 years ago 2
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MrLedZepper 2 years ago
Masterclasses are a little absurd things: a "professor", convincing you that HIS interpretation is the best and the right one, no matter if the "pupil" is Rubinstein or Arrau or Kissin or Lang Lang or Liszt himself, the "professor" always HAS TO CHANGE something of your playing. I have never attended a masterclass where the "pupil" played and the "professor" said "ok, that's perfect!", even if the "pupil" played that same piece 1000 times in every country for thousands people...
liszt80 2 years ago 5
The problem with Baremboim is his tipically Bla bla bla. Sometimes some interesting things, but mostly subjetive.
And what is the meaning of this circus masterclass with the bla bla bla and the cheetta pisnist? Just pure publicity.
For the young to promote a litlle more his busiines , and for te old to have his circle of influences...........
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
You are both so far off it isn't funny. If either of you even understood what it is to be a teacher or to be a virtuoso, then you would both cut your tounges off lest the ghost of Franz Liszt do it himself.
evifnoskcaj 2 years ago
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Oh Yeah ??...I understand both two my dear because i am a vrtuoso and a teacher. Anyway nobody pretend to be funny here, despite the three assholes: LONLON, Kadouch, and Biss.
Is a pitty but Barembooim ( with great talent) has always the vicious attitude try to do everything: Pinistl conductor , and "Politic" ¡¡¡¡¡yapapapá......that´s the stereotipe of most assholes: yapapáa...or yatatatáaa...Come on. Subjetivity to the trash. We need more cerebrality, Art doesn´t mean no brain.
lokopiano 2 years ago
The virtuoso 108 year old from Argentina that writes like a child? Intresting.
evifnoskcaj 2 years ago 2
nO...NO......my dear i am not 108 ....but 107 . Your mom have 108.
And i am not from Argentina ........so you are one more of the imbecils medium brained.
lokopiano 2 years ago
Is this your version of a debate? I told you, you're nothing but a frustrated bastard. FRUSTRATED POOR OLD BASTARD!
You're capable of criticize anybody if you may insult someone. I'm sure is just matter of time to find a bad comment about Arrau, Serkin, Rachmaninoff or Rubistein. You're a lost case. YOU'RE NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING!!!! You're a poor child who attacks someone's mother when someone tells you the truth. Poor guy.
EdiEllerymissing 2 years ago 3
Ayyy...foooooo Nothing , nothing....nothing.... you look very gay......
Arrau was a great musician more than a pianist. he has extremely wonderful recordings, but some of them are just no beautiful for me. Technically he was emphiric, despite he tought the contrary. Serkin was a very good from the technicakl side, but ugly sound, ugly body language...he used to "Eat" each note he stroke....a kind of "Tourette syndrome", and when he rised his arms as a monkey , he looks like cheetta.
Next
lokopiano 2 years ago
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Concerning Rachmaninoff, he was a great pisnist with a kind of strange technique , but it worked fine for him.
Concerning Rubinstein he was maybe the King of pianists.
So.....where did you find those cocnclusions about my taste on pianists? piece of tiny and putrefact shit ?.
The think of the "Mother atacks" ......is for retarded as you....who take it seriously. .....You don´t know the forntier between the real and the joke. My jokes are heavy , just for assholes like you.
lokopiano 2 years ago
wow, if u're a virtuoso, i want to see that .
don't juge by yourself, POST !
tchebinai71 2 years ago 3
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I didn´t post any video of myself, but my fans already did. Of course not under my knicname, asshole.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
i don't care for the nickname i want the name of the video . What do you care, you gotta hide your face on the video .
There's a video of me walking on water, but sorry i can't post , i have to preserve my identity ..
LOOOOOOOLL !!!!! dead loss xD
tchebinai71 2 years ago
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you obviously don´t understand it becuase you are nobody . Unfortunately my case is different . SO if you don´t understand it , or you don´t believe it, i really don´t care about. and you can LOL all the time you want to do it.
Good bye asshole and lang lang and baremboim asskisser.
with love .
Daddy.
lokopiano 2 years ago
never a barenboim asskisser !! :(
that's worse you think you're God !
No one believes you so stop the comedy
LT8Ctox 2 years ago
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I told you :
Good bye asshole.
lokopiano 2 years ago
don't be so jealous child.
wrdpianist 2 years ago
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The persons with arguments such as:
Don´t be jealous, post you vidoes, etc.
Are not only with a child brain, but with a kind of Hairstylist homosexual behavior.
Bye GAY.
lokopiano
lokopiano 2 years ago
ahh get a life
who said that...i guess you think about alot of gay stuff which proves that you are gay
wrdpianist 2 years ago
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get a life.... post your videos....jealous. etc.
and if you talk too much about gay, you are gay.
LOL
LOL
LOL
anyway at least you are a MEDIOCRE.
Guillotine to mediocres.
lokopiano.
lokopiano 2 years ago
Im sorry dude
hope you get some friend:)
wrdpianist 2 years ago
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of course i have no friends.
I mean ...........friends like you.
In other words , no one of my friends are assholes.
lokopiano.
lokopiano 2 years ago