Seriously, please dont spend soooo much time filming on one specific point like some retard. Your video could have been less than 2, THAT'S "2" minutes or less and it would have got the ENTIRE point across that you were attempting. BORING TO DEATH!!!!!
Very interesting! I just stumbled onto this video, following other threads.
There are some very good theories by people well versed in the subject, re: the markings. I am wondering, if this is just something like 'this is the top' and 'this is the bottom' , so when mounting in its carriage, it would be done right. Very little to distinguish top and bottom, except for the fuse hole. The 'bottom' inscription is worn down, which could have come, from it being mounted in a carriage, and rubbing
@Snakebite1968 Thanks. Not cast iron, wrought iron. I think this was done so they could have a relatively thin "tiller" which was very strong, that they could simply insert in the mold to become part of the gun. A bronze tiller of the same dimensions would be subject to breakage on dropping the tube. I've seen (and have) other French bronze guns which combine wrougtht iron with the bronze for various purposes, not sure why they liked that technique.
Could it be named after "Charles Cagniard de la Tour" born 1777, died 1859? He was a French engineer and physicist. He did a number of experiments with regard to cannons and how flint balls rolled around in the barrel etc, etc.
Im not entirely sure if anyone has already mentioned this so I figured I'd say something. The time period matches. It's a long shot anyway.
Have to be careful from that date it could be a replica of a cannon from that time. Looking down the barrel the bore marks are very intact and smooth. I would have to see it in person to know if it was a replica, but be careful howitzer cannons are widely replicated. Some replicas have false dates and false markings and some have no markings at all. First question is where did you get it?
It looks like a carronade made for French Flagged Merchantmen of that time, thus no Rolyal Armoury proof marks. I believe there was an armoury at Tournei and another at Tours. "Le Ch____" may refer to the chandlers who provided equipment, supplies & provisions to many Merchant Ships.
Thanks for the comment. Check out our other videos where we fire it and others. The purpose of this video is to find someone who can ID it better for us.
Just thought Iwould let you knowthat you arenot the only one that has thecommentsor Videos Midjudgedby alack of people willing to dig deeper before making such derogatory remarks towards a unknown persons work without looking deeper,that will never change. I wanted to Suggest sending the link of your Video to Some of the Military museums and another Source could be some Historical society's in France and I am sure that their National Museum,s would be of great help. Just an Idea. Take care!
Seriously, please dont spend soooo much time filming on one specific point like some retard. Your video could have been less than 2, THAT'S "2" minutes or less and it would have got the ENTIRE point across that you were attempting. BORING TO DEATH!!!!!
Bygblok69 4 months ago
Very interesting! I just stumbled onto this video, following other threads.
There are some very good theories by people well versed in the subject, re: the markings. I am wondering, if this is just something like 'this is the top' and 'this is the bottom' , so when mounting in its carriage, it would be done right. Very little to distinguish top and bottom, except for the fuse hole. The 'bottom' inscription is worn down, which could have come, from it being mounted in a carriage, and rubbing
MissDiDiMau 9 months ago
its realy that heavy?
RoboWarrior8813 1 year ago
Sorry, wrought.. :) Yes, bronze would be a little brittle at those diameters.
Have you had the barrel Xray'd? It would be interesting to see joint between the two metals..
I am part of an English Re-Enactment unit portraying French Imperiale Garde Foot Artillery and so far haven't come across this manufacturing process.
I will do some digging (or rather hand it over to those in our unit that can lol)
Snakebite1968 1 year ago
I'm a little worried about the fact that it has cast iron embeded in bronze..
Off hand, I can only think of two reasons this would have been done.
1/ For cheapness, this would be a barrel that wouldn't be used much, possibly on a merchantman.
2/ The barrel was either salvaged after being damaged and was repaired or converted to a long necked cascabel for naval use.
The thought that it may be screwed in is worrying.
Snakebite1968 1 year ago
@Snakebite1968 Thanks. Not cast iron, wrought iron. I think this was done so they could have a relatively thin "tiller" which was very strong, that they could simply insert in the mold to become part of the gun. A bronze tiller of the same dimensions would be subject to breakage on dropping the tube. I've seen (and have) other French bronze guns which combine wrougtht iron with the bronze for various purposes, not sure why they liked that technique.
cannonmn 1 year ago
Awesome!
Mojave888 1 year ago
French howitzer from the 19th century?
redslownight 1 year ago
Could it be named after "Charles Cagniard de la Tour" born 1777, died 1859? He was a French engineer and physicist. He did a number of experiments with regard to cannons and how flint balls rolled around in the barrel etc, etc.
Im not entirely sure if anyone has already mentioned this so I figured I'd say something. The time period matches. It's a long shot anyway.
S0ld1erH3lly 1 year ago
yay thanks for firing it ! fucks sake 1*
warcheen 1 year ago
It looks way too unmarked for its age.
silver760 2 years ago
what kind of metal for a cannon
bestamerica 2 years ago
Have to be careful from that date it could be a replica of a cannon from that time. Looking down the barrel the bore marks are very intact and smooth. I would have to see it in person to know if it was a replica, but be careful howitzer cannons are widely replicated. Some replicas have false dates and false markings and some have no markings at all. First question is where did you get it?
madmanstan7025 2 years ago
It looks like a carronade made for French Flagged Merchantmen of that time, thus no Rolyal Armoury proof marks. I believe there was an armoury at Tournei and another at Tours. "Le Ch____" may refer to the chandlers who provided equipment, supplies & provisions to many Merchant Ships.
Roddyoneeye 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment, what you wrote certainly sounds reasonable.
cannonmn 3 years ago
What is that lift thing you have called?. God knows I need something like that.
dawnrun911 3 years ago
it's a cannon barrel. interested in selling it?
tipusultan6 3 years ago
Thanks, not this one but the one we showeed in our video "Mountain Gun Explosion" can be had (less carriage.)
cannonmn 3 years ago
misterious? for whom? it's an old obusier (that is the common ground between a cannon and a mortar)...very simple
andrew881thebest 3 years ago
I saw a really similar gun to that in a museum um brazil. I´ll step by there again and take a closer look on that one. I´ll post again soon.
Nice work, by the way.
julinho1 5 years ago
Thanks. We know it is a swivel howitzer, almost certainly French, almost certainly naval. What we don't know is WHO made it.
cannonmn 5 years ago
looks like some sort of petard maybe? Used for firing point blank at wooden doors and such to blow them down??
pudah1 5 years ago
It is short barreled but I wouldn't confound it with a petard at all, besides he said it was maritime.
Madmachine73 3 years ago
Yeah Habibi Calm down!!!
mystaffy66 5 years ago
You don't have to say it but I will....
Habana is a jerk.
gabemort 5 years ago
Thanks for the comment. Check out our other videos where we fire it and others. The purpose of this video is to find someone who can ID it better for us.
cannonmn 5 years ago
Just thought Iwould let you knowthat you arenot the only one that has thecommentsor Videos Midjudgedby alack of people willing to dig deeper before making such derogatory remarks towards a unknown persons work without looking deeper,that will never change. I wanted to Suggest sending the link of your Video to Some of the Military museums and another Source could be some Historical society's in France and I am sure that their National Museum,s would be of great help. Just an Idea. Take care!
stihlman37 4 years ago
9 mins of that crap you could have fired the bastard but no yet another let down
habana1984 5 years ago