Yea but what if your in bronze and people are rushing you and your doign this build what would you do you dont have your spawning pool and you cant get it in time or if you pull your drone off the line and thay die what do you do?
i was playing against computer brutal on skirmish mode. i found that when i was still in the process of expanding and building a spawning pool the computer already has 5 marines they are attacking my expansion before it has even finished...zerg is way too costly early game! 250 with a lava for spawning pool and 350 with a lava for expansion total is 600. terran 150x2 300 for 2 barracks...
@Myoldnamesdontwork Brutal Computers gain more minerals than you do, they gain 7 minerals everytime a worker returns minerals, whereas normal players only gain 5.
@ShiroKado So then how come people like CombatEX can do a Cannon rush perfectly and get Grandmasters? Not saying he's good as a person, but he's a good player.
@RidleyPwnsU cause do you know why? alot of people in the masters league is a joke... im talking about 1v1 master league. team master league are trash... they cant hold off a double 4gate..... in 1v1 master league, some of them do some retarded strats. but im pretty sure anyone over gold league can hold off a 6pool. and without proper scouting canon rushes are harder to fend off .
i was just about to say.. you had way too few banelings..
nothing wrong with getting 10 right away because you'll save yourself a bunch of zergling deaths, and therefore be able to drone up sooner while attacking the front door
You blindly build 20+ lings in hope that the guy is going marine marauder... but hey? What if he tech switches to hellion marauder? Then you insta lose?
Please to all Zergs out there... you only need 4 lings to scout around for proxy CCs. Here is how PROS actually beat this EASY push...
5 min overlord scout > No CC being built 3 x rax = Marine Marauder
2 base saturate to 40+ drones 3 x spines.
When he moves out then you build lings > send to main to morph > defend with queens + army.
God why are people in uper level leagues such assholes. I just recently got promoted to diamond and everyone there is so ridiculously bad mannored. Back when i was in gold league everyone seemed like they were still just playing a video game.
sorry but i saw a bunch of mistakes first maybe make a few more baneling. than all your banelings were wasted to the scvs crush them into the marines und then another big mistake is the engagement and postioning at 7:40 about 70 % of his units stood blockt behind the 3 marines on top of the ramp and you couldnt reach even if you had like 30 lings more and was it clear to you that hes going to play an 8 minute timing all in because your saturation at the natural was not good there was no drone
but, it didn't, in fact stop the rush. It only delayed it. While you were doing extra bane/zerg lings in number, of let's say, 10, and he had an army of 6 marines and 2/3 marauders, you would probably lose it. Ofc, 30secs later, you'd have next 10 zerglings against 2/3 marines, but in that time, the terran would have next 10 marauders and 10 marines.
the terran opponent suicided all his scv's into those banelings, a good terran player would have easily backed his scvs and target fired those banelings, 4-5 banelings are super easy to target for someone with 40-50apm, even easier with higher apm assuming it will correlate with his hand eye coordination.
Awesome video's vitsenby, I love your videos, wow, SC2, or minecraft.I play defensively, I will build up defenses around my base, wait for an attack, then counter attack as soon as I can. What I usually do is have my base lined with siege tanks and anti air turrets, That usually ends with their attack either being wiped out before they get into my base, or in a lot of pain. After the attack I will usually send in my marines, marauders, thors and battlecruisers. Risky, but (mostly) effective
@x3ICEx What you heard is most likely correct. If you have 2 drones and 2 extractors, it is more efficient to have 1 drone on each extractor then 2 on 1. Applying the same rule, it makes sense. Thanks for sharing the tip with the community :)
@x3ICEx 2 drones on each patch (16perbase is 100% eff..) ; Although, vit seemed to be going for some julyess lowhigh econ bling bust, like that of he used against mvp.
I pretty much guess morphing in a few more banelings would have fended this off much easier. Am i wrong? Like 4-5 more Banelings and at least all the Marines would have been gone.
@Brionkendo I will be releasing much more SC2 strategies very soon! I have a great match lined up for you guys. Its a nice long game against a 2400 point Terran Diamond player. I'm not sure what to call it yet but its a good one, maybe something like How to Beat Hellion Harassment. I should have the time tonight to record.
@Stopbeingfaggots I was talking about things to come so it may have seemed a bit worse then it was. However, there was a slight desync of about 10 or so seconds at least toward the end. Thanks to audacity crashing on me twice during recording and the recovery tool isnt that great. I hope the next video wont have this problem.
What would I do when protos try to make cannon behind ur minerals of exp force you to cancel the exp, than they come with 4 fenix when u have only 1 hach and 1 queen? ;/
@WhiteBait7 Thanks. As soon as I can figure out a good counter for the 2 Gate to Fast Void Ray, Combined Arms Protoss Timing Push. I would like to put out this video very soon. Time to game spam! :D
run away from stim . great idea =O.
MrDonosoi 1 day ago
he didn't say gg :O "no, if leave without saying gg it means your a noob and have no skill"-White Ra
ninjaxer1 4 days ago
Yea but what if your in bronze and people are rushing you and your doign this build what would you do you dont have your spawning pool and you cant get it in time or if you pull your drone off the line and thay die what do you do?
LordBeoulve 2 weeks ago
i was playing against computer brutal on skirmish mode. i found that when i was still in the process of expanding and building a spawning pool the computer already has 5 marines they are attacking my expansion before it has even finished...zerg is way too costly early game! 250 with a lava for spawning pool and 350 with a lava for expansion total is 600. terran 150x2 300 for 2 barracks...
Myoldnamesdontwork 3 weeks ago
@Myoldnamesdontwork Brutal Computers gain more minerals than you do, they gain 7 minerals everytime a worker returns minerals, whereas normal players only gain 5.
Metanithe 2 weeks ago
Lol, I do exactly what you said not to do and normally mass beinling. Won't do that anymore now :).
stike96 1 month ago
What about when they DON'T send their scv's first like an idiot?
JoePlummer543 1 month ago
wish i could 2x a youtube video
MrGrizmint 1 month ago
how do you get you portrait ?
MrSean571 1 month ago
very close win tho.
guitarhamster102 1 month ago
How to beat Marine Marauder rush as Zerg: 6 pool
RidleyPwnsU 2 months ago
@RidleyPwnsU 6pool never works....
ShiroKado 1 month ago
@ShiroKado If pool finishes right at 1:49, then you could hopefully make it before their second depot is up
RidleyPwnsU 1 month ago
@RidleyPwnsU uuuh even if u make it, if u cant hold off a 6pool, ur a worthless bronze....
ShiroKado 1 month ago
@ShiroKado So then how come people like CombatEX can do a Cannon rush perfectly and get Grandmasters? Not saying he's good as a person, but he's a good player.
RidleyPwnsU 1 month ago
@RidleyPwnsU cause do you know why? alot of people in the masters league is a joke... im talking about 1v1 master league. team master league are trash... they cant hold off a double 4gate..... in 1v1 master league, some of them do some retarded strats. but im pretty sure anyone over gold league can hold off a 6pool. and without proper scouting canon rushes are harder to fend off .
ShiroKado 1 month ago
@ShiroKado Ever heard about ActionJesuz?
MicaelQueiroz 1 month ago
i was just about to say.. you had way too few banelings..
nothing wrong with getting 10 right away because you'll save yourself a bunch of zergling deaths, and therefore be able to drone up sooner while attacking the front door
246trinitrotoluene 2 months ago in playlist Zerg Strategy
You blindly build 20+ lings in hope that the guy is going marine marauder... but hey? What if he tech switches to hellion marauder? Then you insta lose?
Please to all Zergs out there... you only need 4 lings to scout around for proxy CCs. Here is how PROS actually beat this EASY push...
5 min overlord scout > No CC being built 3 x rax = Marine Marauder
2 base saturate to 40+ drones 3 x spines.
When he moves out then you build lings > send to main to morph > defend with queens + army.
GG NOOB
ExplicitSimplicity 2 months ago
On my recommended videos the title only read "How to Beat Marine." Rest assured, I clicked it immediately.
Disturbed763 2 months ago
HE DIDNT WIN THE GAME!
jaywack11 2 months ago
no top comment!!! uhmmm sc2dude has a big dick?
jaywack11 2 months ago
God why are people in uper level leagues such assholes. I just recently got promoted to diamond and everyone there is so ridiculously bad mannored. Back when i was in gold league everyone seemed like they were still just playing a video game.
JMRolf1 3 months ago
until the end of the video exept of this i actully love your videos to zerg tips and so on :D
timm7100 3 months ago
sorry but i saw a bunch of mistakes first maybe make a few more baneling. than all your banelings were wasted to the scvs crush them into the marines und then another big mistake is the engagement and postioning at 7:40 about 70 % of his units stood blockt behind the 3 marines on top of the ramp and you couldnt reach even if you had like 30 lings more and was it clear to you that hes going to play an 8 minute timing all in because your saturation at the natural was not good there was no drone
timm7100 3 months ago
if only i wouldve watced tis before i played ZvT
yondiame50000 3 months ago
but, it didn't, in fact stop the rush. It only delayed it. While you were doing extra bane/zerg lings in number, of let's say, 10, and he had an army of 6 marines and 2/3 marauders, you would probably lose it. Ofc, 30secs later, you'd have next 10 zerglings against 2/3 marines, but in that time, the terran would have next 10 marauders and 10 marines.
ZingerBox 4 months ago
you need alot more than 5 banelings... he would have done no damage if you had more.
scootering12345 4 months ago
the terran opponent suicided all his scv's into those banelings, a good terran player would have easily backed his scvs and target fired those banelings, 4-5 banelings are super easy to target for someone with 40-50apm, even easier with higher apm assuming it will correlate with his hand eye coordination.
tacticalstation 5 months ago
you sound like painuser
MariosGuy 6 months ago in playlist Zerg Strategy
the best way to see if they're gonna go marine/marauder rush is to see if they're tarren, haha. They do nothing but that.
ranDOMcaP1tAlizATi0n 7 months ago
@ranDOMcaP1tAlizATi0n no shit you rarely see anything else that or banshee harass
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COBstarcraft 7 months ago
@SC2BRNZleague From what i've been noticing, i dont think drones move faster on creep, i may be wrong though
FriendlyClam 9 months ago
Sooo HOW TO STOP IT THEN? You did all you suposed to, so wheres the way out?
ThorMexico 9 months ago
@ThorMexico he said so, when the last spawns come right after video cut off, the marines/marauders left will die, enemy got no echonomy and done
TheDruidProductions 7 months ago
That the gayest terran strategy ever! Good work on owning him :)
drewsh777 9 months ago
@SC2BRNZleague no
edi2314 10 months ago
@SC2BRNZleague no they dont
thedudeyeah 10 months ago
great video ive played zerg since the 90's seems like we may be a little underpowered in this one, thanks for the tips
giggitygoo21 11 months ago
@giggitygoo21 lol @ underpowered, no it just requires skill to be played well.
paddis3 6 months ago
I have no clue what any of the lingo u were using meant.
kemando12 11 months ago
Awesome video's vitsenby, I love your videos, wow, SC2, or minecraft.I play defensively, I will build up defenses around my base, wait for an attack, then counter attack as soon as I can. What I usually do is have my base lined with siege tanks and anti air turrets, That usually ends with their attack either being wiped out before they get into my base, or in a lot of pain. After the attack I will usually send in my marines, marauders, thors and battlecruisers. Risky, but (mostly) effective
Treembea 1 year ago
Uh, you let banelings just run into a pack of scvs. -.-
russle360 1 year ago
thumbs up if you didnt notice that the audio and video were waaay off until almost the end
MetaCognation 1 year ago
i have a hard time beating this all in with protoss. but the closest ive come to beating it is a 3gate robo or an awesome 4gate push
ScottyDoe987 1 year ago
hey vitensby. ure awesome! keep up the good work. how is your daughter?
pedroholly 1 year ago 9
@pedroholly Shes keeping me super busy these days. Already reaching for the mouse and keyboard. I might just have a gamer girl on my hands haha.
TheStarcraft2Dude 1 year ago 40
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Bawlsackable 1 year ago
I'd transfer some drones to the expo just for the few minutes before he attacks. I heard having 8 at each base is better than 16 at one.
x3ICEx 1 year ago 7
@x3ICEx What you heard is most likely correct. If you have 2 drones and 2 extractors, it is more efficient to have 1 drone on each extractor then 2 on 1. Applying the same rule, it makes sense. Thanks for sharing the tip with the community :)
TheStarcraft2Dude 1 year ago 4
@x3ICEx 2 drones on each patch (16perbase is 100% eff..) ; Although, vit seemed to be going for some julyess lowhigh econ bling bust, like that of he used against mvp.
Galfough 1 year ago
@Galfough The first part of your comment I understand, the second looks like all garbled.
Nevertheless, I shall test if 2 bases with 8 on each is slightly faster than 1 base with 16...
...or not.
x3ICEx 1 year ago
@x3ICEx Tested... It makes no bloody difference :(
Initially the extra base gathered 35 bonus minerals,
but after ten minutes the difference is still at 35 minerals.
So...
DO NOT transfer below 16 workers, it makes no difference.
x3ICEx 1 year ago
Hi. You should avoid black bars around your video.
1 Don't let software add bars to auto-correct aspect ratio.
2 Don't add those black bars manually to your video either.
x3ICEx 1 year ago
I pretty much guess morphing in a few more banelings would have fended this off much easier. Am i wrong? Like 4-5 more Banelings and at least all the Marines would have been gone.
xXTheWhiteSharkXx 1 year ago
@xXTheWhiteSharkXx not if the terran splits his marines effectively.
iluvimports 1 year ago
your videos are soooo helpful thanks man!
Methodsofdestruction 1 year ago
Vitensby when your on we should play some Minecraft I got a server running with friends ;)
Aniketos00 1 year ago
awesome!
fiskaren111 1 year ago
OMG I played this guy the other day, he BM'd me so hard lol
Ardentzero 1 year ago
Glad to see SC2 content coming back :D
Ardentzero 1 year ago
How do you defend against this type of push as protoss if you FE.
hanphilip 1 year ago
Nice one Vit ! Thanks for sharing and keep it up =)
Florio003 1 year ago
Nice one Vit ! Thanks for sharing and keep it up =)
Florio003 1 year ago
this is great.. .and the reason i subscribed to you in the first place
Brionkendo 1 year ago
@Brionkendo I will be releasing much more SC2 strategies very soon! I have a great match lined up for you guys. Its a nice long game against a 2400 point Terran Diamond player. I'm not sure what to call it yet but its a good one, maybe something like How to Beat Hellion Harassment. I should have the time tonight to record.
TheStarcraft2Dude 1 year ago 9
I hate it when I gl hf and my opponent doesn't respond.
Azurite22 1 year ago
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Azurite22 1 year ago
Was it just me or did the audio feel out of sync with the video?
Stopbeingfaggots 1 year ago
@Stopbeingfaggots I was talking about things to come so it may have seemed a bit worse then it was. However, there was a slight desync of about 10 or so seconds at least toward the end. Thanks to audacity crashing on me twice during recording and the recovery tool isnt that great. I hope the next video wont have this problem.
Vitensby 1 year ago
What would I do when protos try to make cannon behind ur minerals of exp force you to cancel the exp, than they come with 4 fenix when u have only 1 hach and 1 queen? ;/
ReneShed 1 year ago
Good to see some SC2 videos as well, nice work :)
Soppauchiha 1 year ago
FINALLY STARCRAFT. I love you <3
rendros88 1 year ago
glad to see your back with a few vids cheers
WhiteBait7 1 year ago
@WhiteBait7 Thanks. As soon as I can figure out a good counter for the 2 Gate to Fast Void Ray, Combined Arms Protoss Timing Push. I would like to put out this video very soon. Time to game spam! :D
TheStarcraft2Dude 1 year ago 4
@TheStarcraft2Dude 2 Gate, Havnt seen it since bronze.
HuntedWater 1 year ago
@HuntedWater You must not make a lot of Roaches like me then :P
TheStarcraft2Dude 1 year ago
@TheStarcraft2Dude I go usally 14 hatch 14 pool 18 gas against toss. :p Use the overlord to scout at 6-8 minute mark for phenix rushes is nice.
HuntedWater 1 year ago
waiting for video to encode =D will watch later. sounds like it'll be good video
Rand0mAsian 1 year ago