I am a covert hypnotist and this trick is easy. A hypnotist begins much before you think you know. Ask yourself this: Is Darren doing some suggestions that he is going to win? Yes. Playing by Authority. The he does something called a "hypnotic suggestibility test". He is making catalepsy in the guy's arm. What that does is that it externalizes control, making the person believe that he is under a hypnotist control. The staring is a joke, Derren has already won. Its the compounding effect.
@AnniekNieq Well, Derren explains how he does this to people. They are not random. They were selected. They didn't know they were selected long before he began to stare at them. Its about suggestion before they began the staring contest. So, it is pretty real.
It's fun to imagine Darren dealing with enemies or minor skirmishes he might run into. People running around clawing their own face off as their unconscious minds are unfolding behind their eyes. Fun "Scanners" kinda stuff--twitching, pulsing veins, eyes blowing out, heads exploding.
I belive this is a form of hypnotic fascination. Like two lizards starring at each other until one of them calmly walks up to the other and eats him. ( or a snake starring its prey into a trance)
I believed the chess thing... then I saw the hypnosis, now this staring... I don't believe in spoiling the fun, but... where can he go from here? Bringing people back to life? Derren! If you want to spook people, aim to be less psychic, not more powerful.
@alexzracer2008 let's just say provoking people to react is not the same as encouraging people to think... hypnosis simply plays off the dominant mode network in the mind (the part of your brain that is always active) so it doesn't impress me... I'm just trying to contrast what Derren is doing with what really impresses people, that's all
@MrGodkid hmm true about what darren can do but you can find out what he is doing in a body language book. Also I disagree tim hypnosis, i mean Darren even disagrees with hypnosis. He talks about how its all a bs like "getting" people to feel drunk, stating its all fake especially the cold reads. He talks about this in a video with a scientist named Richard Dawkins. My main point is that you can't get someone to think like their ugly when their not.
why doesn't anyone say anything when Darren gives or the 2nd guy starts giving the most obvious blink.... or is wiping your eyes not considered blinking...
What does he mumble right before he shakes his hand/asks his name at :36-:38 . Im pretty sure he says something RIGHT before their hands meet . i just dont know what the hell he said . Anyone know?
He blinked!!! what a fake. The ancients believe the Chi point is a good defense against attacks on your subconscious. The upper abdomen area is flexed using the diaphram muscle in stress response. You can relax this by breathing through it instead of chest breathing. You can deguass hypnotic eye contact by putting both palms next to your eyes, center your eyes, but concentrate on seeing your palms using both eyes in opposing directions. This was discovered to relieve tunnel vision.
@cyberjynx there's a difference between a blinking contest (who can not blink the longest) and a staring contest (who can look in the others eyes the longest).
@skifflebunch Must be a British thing because in America a staring contest consist of staring and NOT blinking, there is no such thing as a blinking contest, not here anyway. When you have a running contest you run, when you have a breath holding contest you hold your breath, so when you have a "blinking" contest you ___?
@cyberjynx It wasn't to see who would blink first, it was a staring contest. That same guy also closed his eyes and rubbed them and notice they didn't stop they kept going.
@Prahdigy interesting, anyway I love this subject of human psychology, when the unseen and unnoticed is brought to the conscience. Should make everyone think about how its all used daily in ads, education and society control.
It is basicly, anchoring, kinesics and conversational hypnosis HOW? Read some more about it on the net, or watch a video on Derren called "Russian scam" or "how to take someones wallet just by asking" am sure you will catch on fast enough
BS if Derren Brown really had these powers he would have to be under security 24/7 as someone would surely assassinate him like they did with Gandhi Lennon the Kennedys Luther King and many others that had mesmerizing charisma & moved people. Also this is just called bullbaiting in Scientology and no scientologist would give in to Derren Brown! therefor that bald wuss can rub his eggshell as much as he wants but you dont convince me in the slightest. + we never see the premise of any of this bs
Derren Brown posesses a high-rank devil. Everywhere he goes this devil goes with him, he talks to him, Brown's knowledge and skills comes from that devil's mind.
Beware of Hypnosis, don't listen what Brown is saying.
First of all don't obey his words, If You will obey them then his master - the devil devil will have spiritual authority over Your person.
Beware. I say to You, Hypnosis is a gateway for unclean spirits, those being can then take control over You without You will !!!.
By focusing on the center of the triangle you are hypnotising yourself and the other person. That way you will create a direct gateway to the other persons subconscious. Because of the unpleasant feeling of the stare, that emotion is reinforced in the subconscious by a factor of ten. Don't do it for too long. It will make you feel very bad.
Hypnosis is how the brain works. Specifically self hypnosis. I use it every day. Just focus on one thing. That's it. Every effective form of communication is hypnotic. It is used in advertisement, propaganda and politics.
By the way, psychoanalysis is not the state of the art of psychology. The Brain is a product of evolution. It has an inherent structure. This structure can be made visible through magnetic resonance imaging. It clearly shows that hypnosis works.
I simply brought up psychoanalysis because you used a term that this particular discipline has spawned: the unconscious.
So what you're saying is that neurologists today agree that hypnosis (and all that goes with it) is a legitimate scientific fact, after having observed brain activity during a "trance". Any references on that?
To say that effective communication = hypnosis is to say "there is no hypnosis", that there's only communication / that failure is miss-communication.
Hypnosis is a scientific fact. Every good movie that "pulls you in" uses hypnosis. Every form of communication that sticks in your mind is hypnotic. Whereas most communication is not hypnotic.
Hypnosis bypasses the critical/logical part of the brain and activates specific parts of the brain directly. That way people experience things as real which are only imagined. The activated brain parts which are needed for a particular task can be made visibile through MRI.
OK. Show me some published studies (be they neurological, psychological, anything at all really) where hypnosis is being treated as scientific fact (and not scientific fiction for a change). The ones that helped shape your perspective will do.
Just reference the books and articles that you've read on this subject.
Hypnosis is established and widely used in all kinds of fields. Psychotherapy, Psychiatry, Marketing. All of Derren Browns stuff is based on it.
Go search Google. Studies are all over the internet. Can't post any links here on Youtube. Just type "Hypnosis MRI".
It can also be explained through evolutionary psychology. By focusing on one thing at a time you are making more progress which releases happiness hormones. This then activates the creative part of the brain.
I am not obliged to proof anything. You can do a self experiment as I mentioned in the comment. That can be reproduced anywhere anytime. That is scientific.
Evolution is not a fragmentary theory. You seem to be ideologically biased.
The evolutionary approach to mood changes and how it effects behaviour is studied by primatologists such as Frans de Vaal. The book is called "Chimpanzee politics".
Thanks for the references. They will be looked into (especially hypnotic paralysis which I usually read about with enthusiasm). Could you also tell me according to which theorists you define the term hypnosis? I may have an idea about your paradigm problem.
I have been more than open to positive results when recreating experiments concerning hypnosis. No luck. It sure makes for good poetry though: "direct gateway into a person's subconscious" must be part of "Ode to Hypnosis".
Modern Hypnotherapy was made famous by Milton Erickson. Hypnotherapy is empirically proven to be effective. The treatment includes depression, stopping smoking, loosing weight and all kinds of anxieties. There is a systematic procedure to it. I may not works equally well with all people but it has nothing to do with luck.
@philippschuetz See? What did I tell you... New age nonsense from Bandler and Grinder inspired by Erikson no doubt.
When I first heard the name Erikson during the first discussion I had concerning NLP, I thought to myself "Erik Erikson? How could he betray his practice in such a way?". As it turned out it was the obscure Milton, not the bright Erik, that we were discussing.
Your definition (provided by Dennet) of a trance is how we in the real world refer to socialization. It's not hypnosis, it's not mind control, it's not NLP, it is stages of learning with a notion of dynamics attached (along the lines of pleasure/danger dichotomy). Hypnosis, as Bandler (Erikson) points out, is in a position to impose, leave no room for said dynamics (i.e. Derren and his Jedi like mind control applications).
Anything you might have left out of your definition?
Socialization is not a conscious act. It is unconscious. Children learn from their pears without thinking about it. They just copy. Hypnosis is not mind control. It is based on rapport between two people. If a person doesn't want to be hypnotized or is somehow suspicious it doesn't work. Hypnosis is the essence of learning. Without hypnosis no learning. Hypnosis is a state of 100% concentration. No sleeping. No loss of awareness.
I doubt you have even seen the video. Watch it again. Pay attention how Derren interacts with the people he hypnotizes. They are doing it voluntarily. He is not forcing them. He creates rapport. In a matter of seconds. The point where they couldn't handle it anymore they stopped. The last guy was a bit masochistic ;)
It's mostly not hearsay. I've looked into NLP through its prime developers. And as far as hear-say goes, it's based on discussions with NLP practitioners and hypnotherapists.
Bear in mind that learning is not limited to being taught.
Since we're mentioning Derren's hypnotico-orthodox work, have you seen his video entitled "Invisible Man" or the one where he hypnotizes a woman in the middle of the street immobilizing her?
He probably has a more complex definition for hypnosis.
Derren Brown uses simple Hypnosis. He first builds up trust by for example taking the persons hand and looking them deep in the eye. This opens the person up for suggestion. As you can hear at 1:30 of "Invisible Man" he says "You simply can't see me". The subconscious then erases Derren from the hypnotized persons visual field.
The advertisement industry uses the same techniques to make you buy their products.
I understand what Derren supposedly does in "the invisible man"; I know the principle, and I have this to say: COME ON !!!
You can't really believe this garbage, right? Is it doublethinking that you're practicing? I don't even know what more to say... maybe "you simply can't see" it [the bullshit].
No need to get aggressive Philip. I don't only think it doesn't work, I know it doesn't work. Haven't you been paying attention?
Now if it were to remain in the realm of magic where it began its journey, hypnosis would have been a harmless lie. However, its recent rise in popularity among various eccentric scholars (mostly "nacirema") is alarming. This leap towards scientific legitimacy of mystical elements such as hypnosis is a curious social phenomenon that needs explaining.
Only because some legitimate methods are used by mystics doesn't make it wrong.
Yes hypnosis has been practiced by shamans over thousands of years. And it has been practiced that long exactly because it works. Read "Breaking the spell" by Daniel Dennett on Amazon. Use "Search Inside" and search for "hypnosis".
Hypnosis has evolved. Thats the whole trick. You need to see things from an evolutionary perspective an everything makes sense.
Hehe, well shamans are still at it today, putting on shows for drug abusers (guess) at Stanford, no less.
Scenario: camera fixed on shaman -> shaman makes magic gestures ->shaman puts an infant on the table -> utters unintelligible words -> shaman pulls out a butcher's knife -> shaman chops child into little pieces -> puts everything away and rests in cross-arm position.
But they also heal people. A lot of physical illnesses are connected to how people think. By changing their believe system these illnesses can be healed. It's called the placebo effect.
It has nothing to do with drugs. The ability to be hypnotized is a biological function of the human brain. Like language is a function. Chimpanzees don't have that. That's why you can teach chimpanzees as long as you want and they will never be able to speak. The reason is, these functions evolved through evolution. They helped humans to survive and reproduce. Structuralism can't explain that.
Placebo effect indeed. It all depends on your definition of "curing" or "healing". Though I wouldn't deny the empirical data on placebo, I have to say that temporarily TRICKING(not hypnotizing) a person into thinking that they have been cured of psychosomatic illness, depression, phobias and so forth hardly qualifies as curing. And make no mistake:it always works for a limited amount of time.
I can't fit functional-structuralism in such a tiny text box as you did with evolution.
The trickery is a moral question. But they use hypnosis non the less. You don't need to sit in front of someone with a watch to hypnotize him. A lot of these people don't even now how it works. They just have a charismatic personality. They have an influence on people and they use it.
The Problem I see with structuralism is that it doesn't provide a scientific explanation to how the brain really works. It gives descriptions but it doesn't explain why things happen in the first place
I've seen Dawkins' documentary ("Enemies of Reason" I think) a few years ago and I remember Derren Brown speaking to him about cold reading. What can I say... there are worse contradictions in the world than having mystics speak against the enemies of reason.
So if trickery is as you deem it, an unethical hypnosis but hypnosis non the less, aren't then psychics hypnotists as well? Maybe I'm rushing but please bear with me... (I said BEAR; are you thinking of a bear yet?)
Hypnosis is just a method to focus and lead your attention and put you into an altered state. This altered state can then be used to suggest something. Suggestion can also be used on it's own but isn't that effective. The trickery starts when people don't tell the truth about what they are doing. Psychics usually use cold reading(speakint to the dead) to create rapport with people. The psychics I talk about are Peter Popoff and Doris Collins(exposed by James Randi).
Great job not answering the questions. Never mind.
Funny you should mention James Randi, friend of Penn Jillette and Teller; one of the many things that these three people have in common is skepticism towards hypnosis (namely hypnotherapy). Granted that Randi appears to be a bit more tolerant than the other two (which works with his being a bit more spiritual). None the less, a respectable fellow that bears Houdini's cross proudly. (are you thinking of a bear yet?)
Your suggestion doesn't work. It's just to obvious. Maybe you should try to hypnotize me first :) Watch Derren Brown. He's a master in disguising his commands.
Hypnosis is scientific in the sense that the things you fantasize are processed by the brain as if they where real. The same thing could be done by measuring a person while dreaming. The difference is, in a dream you can't consciously change the way the fantasy is going.
I've also become a master at disguising my commands. The bear is just misdirection, the real commands are well hidden in plain sight, he he.
Hypnosis is scientific because the object that it affects happens to be a subject of scientific enquiry? Needs more.
Have you ever wondered how far along the vectors of positivism psychology claims to be? In case you have, your hypnosis reaches no further than psy. on said vector.
Seems we are finally on the same page. Hypnosis is a very effective technique for changing the subconscious. 95% of the body are not controlled consciously but unconsciously. Like breathing, digesting, walking and all over kinds of habits. If you want to change that just talking about it wont do anything. Thats where hypnosis comes into play. The problem with psychology is that it isn't very scientific at all. Hypnosis fits more into evolutionary psychology.
Sorry, we're not quite on the same page. I just haven't made myself clear because this text box is too small. Telling me over and over that hypnosis is effective won't make it so.
I grant you that psychotherapy proves ineffective in many cases, but to my knowledge, hypnotherapy proves ineffective in all cases(you need a lifetime of sessions in order to "program" subconscious dynamics; psy does not claim to have such parameters)
At some point we might discuss what makes a science
Hypnosis is ten times faster, sometimes even one hundred times faster then psychotherapy. I've done psychotherapy myself for probably half a year with one session a week. Effects where very small and it cost me a lot of money. Psychotherapy focuses on the negative things. The things that cause you trouble. And tries to solve it by rational discussion. The problem is, it doesn't effect your behavior at all. Behavior can only be changed by going in to the subconscious.
Psychoanalysis and "rational discussion". Well you'd be the first to draw this conclusion. And if by discussion you mean dialogue, then your therapist should have stayed in school longer.
Psy-therapy is slower because it regards your life as full of meaning. Psy-analysts believe that generic "positive thinking" will not erase trauma accumulated within your lifetime, that certain "negative things" must come out and be dealt with, in order for change to occur.
I completely agree with your objection to pure positive thinking. However Hypnosis is not about positive thinking but about focusing on your goals. This leads to higher levels of serotonin which especially in depressed people are relatively low. What you are doing it tapping into your bodies own drug resource.
Having a good mood is essential for being creative dealing with problems.
By GENERIC positive thinking I was implicitly referring to goal oriented therapy.
Psy-therapists believe that behavior can't be altered by addressing the present state of a patient, that the therapist's role is to help a patient dig through layers of consciousness via past experiences in order to get to the root of present behavior. Present behavior is regarded as a product of gradual accumulation.
But I assume you already know this and have decided it was not worth the wait.
That's because the brain doesn't work like that. Trying to solve the past is a very complex task. That takes a lot of energy. The brain is designed to process one thing at a time. If you take that into account, thing in the present can be solved step by step. This is based on neuroscience. Psychotherapy unfortunately is not.
Jeez... next time you tell me which humanist (that's right humanist) is right and which is wrong try to reference someone other than an ethologist (I presume, since chimps are his area of expertise). Anyway what does it matter whose side we take, what matters is that both have ended up discarding hypnosis (via pendulum or without).
Instead of taking sides, rather try to understand what cultural stimuli contributed to their orientations and how perspectivism reigns over them.
I don't know where you get some of your facts but Psy anamnesis is a gradual ("one thing at a time" as you say) procedure and it is imperative to address all phases of development. Childhood representation never tell the whole story.
And psy doesn't claim to "solve" the past, it helps people cope with past trauma (this word isn't as bad as it sounds, look it up in a psy dictionary) at times when past experience tempers with the present.
See that's where you are wrong. Chimpanzees share 99% of our genes. They also have the same social emotions. They create networks. Their brain works the same way as ours. That seems to clash with your view of human nature. Your view of human nature is based on ideology. Mine on evolution.
Peace Philip. It's almost as if you're arguing about favorite bands. And your favorite band "The Evolution" is far more appealing to me than other bands of the same genre. But still, it only covers a small portion of my musical appetite. [After the evolutionary leap towards the homo sapien] a range of different musical genres begin to emerge, picking up where the other left off.
I don't know how clear I've made myself.
I believe primatology is still a branch of ethology.
Unfortunately that's not true. The social sciences don't have a valid model for how human beings function. Their very basis is pure speculation. The only explanation as how human beings function can be provided by evolution. Every organ in human beings has evolved through natural selection. This also applies to the human brain. Maybe you aren't as free in your decision making as you would like to think.
It's not about thinking. It's about instincts and emotions. They control us. That hasn't changed. You can think all you want all your life but human nature won't change. Our mind is designed for survival and replication. You're welcome to give examples that refute this.
Correction: our mind is designed for survival, replication and playing basketball. Oh and it was also designed for a little thing we could refer to as "everything else that people all over the world do".
Your view of human beings is very simplistic. Man is far more than an animal (hence phrases like social/political/economic animal etc). You are far more than an animal.
Now I must raise these questions: have you ever seen a suicidal animal? How about an abstinent animal?
bullcrap..
wereyouy 3 days ago
scuse me a minute
AlwaysOctoberMusic 3 weeks ago
watch closely , rules said "..or blink loses the game" at 1,48 derren brown blinked first i think
deinemutteraldafu22 1 month ago
He got dizzy by gayness!!
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I am a covert hypnotist and this trick is easy. A hypnotist begins much before you think you know. Ask yourself this: Is Darren doing some suggestions that he is going to win? Yes. Playing by Authority. The he does something called a "hypnotic suggestibility test". He is making catalepsy in the guy's arm. What that does is that it externalizes control, making the person believe that he is under a hypnotist control. The staring is a joke, Derren has already won. Its the compounding effect.
ArtesianFalma 1 month ago
reverse staring contest...sit towards each other with eyes closed...first to open eyes or nod off loses!
tubofbologna 2 months ago
he blinked at 1:48.....cheater....
beyonzero 2 months ago 4
@beyonzero yeah, good spot.
ShapeShiftTheWorld 2 months ago
@beyonzero I saw it too man !
jrmaximus 2 weeks ago
i blinked so many times as i watched this.....WHY?
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staring accidentally.. so awkward.. 9gag.com/gag/561806
jlucass 2 months ago
I know you can freak people out with low frequency sounds. Maybe he's got some really good speakers pointed at the guy in front of him?
"Magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection, and showmanship"?
I'd say some clever gadgets would fall under that.
illegalcheez 2 months ago
Artificial, and Homosexual.
bluenotejazz 2 months ago
the penance stare
triggersprollie 3 months ago
can someone try and explain to me HOW on earth he does shit like this!?!
MattMzansi 3 months ago
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Not as good as the stuff in the Mindreading Exposed ebook
yeeeeahdroppingteam 3 months ago
He possesed all of them lol
Thesniper979 4 months ago
1:49 looks like Darren blinks??
smith45acp 4 months ago
0:31 "The first person to look away or blink loses the game."
Amccarthy30251 4 months ago
Blinking was necessary for the whole stuff to happen.
rockergiow 4 months ago
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Gay, very gay. But its all good. The whole point is he makes the guy sick with his death stare and online arguments are pointless. ;) cheers.
cyberjynx 5 months ago
it's all bullshit at 1:48 you tell me he doesn't blink first
and for all you fuck wits he states at 0:28
"these are the rules for Staring competition the first person to look away OR (BLINK) loses"
leftylethborg 5 months ago
1:25 damn he sounds like german, really... ;]
mrssiruuvi 5 months ago 2
I would try this, I don´t believe a thing of this!
AnniekNieq 6 months ago 8
@AnniekNieq It works, but I'm not going to explain how because it is powerful. Its just a thing with body language, and psychology.
alexzracer2008 5 months ago
@AnniekNieq Well, Derren explains how he does this to people. They are not random. They were selected. They didn't know they were selected long before he began to stare at them. Its about suggestion before they began the staring contest. So, it is pretty real.
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Karlijntjuhh15 6 months ago
Is he a wizard?
jeenyus720 6 months ago 2
@jeenyus720 he likes porn
NielsThatsMe19 5 months ago
Theres a difference between a staring contest and a blinking contest.
Staring contests is just about who first breaks the stare by looking away, blinking doesn't matter.
Blinking contests is when you break both rules.
ProphetofGod 6 months ago 3
he blinks first at 1:48
igotgas64 6 months ago
It's fun to imagine Darren dealing with enemies or minor skirmishes he might run into. People running around clawing their own face off as their unconscious minds are unfolding behind their eyes. Fun "Scanners" kinda stuff--twitching, pulsing veins, eyes blowing out, heads exploding.
IDoNotBlameYou 6 months ago 3
I belive this is a form of hypnotic fascination. Like two lizards starring at each other until one of them calmly walks up to the other and eats him. ( or a snake starring its prey into a trance)
raindeerlol 7 months ago 3
I believed the chess thing... then I saw the hypnosis, now this staring... I don't believe in spoiling the fun, but... where can he go from here? Bringing people back to life? Derren! If you want to spook people, aim to be less psychic, not more powerful.
MrGodkid 7 months ago
@MrGodkid wait so do you believe in hypnosis and this staring thing or what are you trying to say
alexzracer2008 5 months ago
@alexzracer2008 let's just say provoking people to react is not the same as encouraging people to think... hypnosis simply plays off the dominant mode network in the mind (the part of your brain that is always active) so it doesn't impress me... I'm just trying to contrast what Derren is doing with what really impresses people, that's all
MrGodkid 4 months ago
@MrGodkid hmm true about what darren can do but you can find out what he is doing in a body language book. Also I disagree tim hypnosis, i mean Darren even disagrees with hypnosis. He talks about how its all a bs like "getting" people to feel drunk, stating its all fake especially the cold reads. He talks about this in a video with a scientist named Richard Dawkins. My main point is that you can't get someone to think like their ugly when their not.
alexzracer2008 4 months ago
@alexzracer2008 yes ok
MrGodkid 4 months ago
fake
robertcaraker 7 months ago
thats not the whole point of it. It's "who can look into each others eyes with looking away",but the video maker named it "Starring competition"
2ablerunescape 8 months ago 2
id stab him on the throat i hate energy zombies
twicon 8 months ago
Mr. Slave!!!!!!
etuhs350 8 months ago
thats fake, he blinks at 1:48
mozkitoable 8 months ago
damnit... 0:33. i lost
chichung941 8 months ago
thumbs up if you thought someone was gunna get hurt
mosdreable 9 months ago 3
chances are you probably wached the whole video without blinking
jakeandskylerfilms 9 months ago
chances are you probably watvhed the whole video without blinking
jakeandskylerfilms 9 months ago
Man, these guys suck. I could keep it for 10 minutes
aclock2 9 months ago
ಠ_ಠ
SourRevenge 9 months ago
lol @ 1:47 he blinks first ! FAKE ASS SHIT
m4sta2k 9 months ago
@m4sta2k You could blink I think...
021311 9 months ago
notice how derren's messing the first guy's pulse during the handshake and murmurs "follow me" instead of "for me".. the guy was gone from the start
fornika13 9 months ago
god I would not wanna have a staring comption with him (no AWAY) if i was there and he asked me....i would say no thanks i dont wanna
DragonFighter1133 10 months ago
It was sharingan
Realmasterorder 10 months ago 3
1:48 Derren blinks.
fleisch313 10 months ago
wow that is creapy ....some one tell me is he like a magic man or somthing.......???? i just wanna know
DragonFighter1133 10 months ago
So let me get this straight...this fuckin bullshit supposed to be real right ? Like in what fuckin universe??
ELWRUAN 10 months ago
@ELWRUAN I dont know if this show is real, but NLP is real. Look it up if you dare
TheEplejuice 10 months ago
phil ivey vs derren brown
beehands 10 months ago
This is the game Derren plays with fans waiting after his show...!
tebe2k 11 months ago
what a load of shit
freedomsoldier187 11 months ago
Derren Brown is unleashing his sharingan on these poor guys lol
entocheets 11 months ago 72
@entocheets that was awesome I lol'd :D :D
honzicek02 9 months ago
@entocheets What is a sharingan?
Dave6177 4 months ago
@Dave6177 its from the anime naruto. just hax eyes
Dillan44 4 months ago
how does he do this??!!!!
Searchin4ThePurpose 1 year ago
I think that the people would have been hypnotized first before he could do this, I don't think that is at all possible without it
freddyfingerswilkens 1 year ago
darren blinked at 1:49
topdogcj 1 year ago
78 people were mindfucked...
mighty2412 1 year ago
why doesn't anyone say anything when Darren gives or the 2nd guy starts giving the most obvious blink.... or is wiping your eyes not considered blinking...
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mrrandomguy98 1 year ago
This guy is some sort of black magician, lol.
karlkarlkarl1234 1 year ago
fucking idiots who think this is real!!!!
inkpharaoh1992 1 year ago
@inkpharaoh1992 You're an idiot. You obviously don't know who Derren Brown is.
MooPoo1980 1 year ago
@inkpharaoh1992 Everyone who knows anything about Derren Brown.
Llawliet246 11 months ago
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10ALBERTEINSTEIN 1 year ago
It's easy to win from drug addicts.
member5738 1 year ago
What does he mumble right before he shakes his hand/asks his name at :36-:38 . Im pretty sure he says something RIGHT before their hands meet . i just dont know what the hell he said . Anyone know?
Trey029 1 year ago
@Trey029 i think he say "Guy in the baseball hat"
Searchin4ThePurpose 1 year ago
@Trey029 i think he say "Guy in the baseball cap"
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WayOfTheMind 1 year ago
@Trey029 He just says "move over here to me."
WayOfTheMind 1 year ago
@Trey029 he said "it's so good to meet you"
SirLilSpazer 1 year ago
It does not matter he blinked, at least if noone else notices it. If thats the case he achieved something
langeveld8 1 year ago
He blinked!!! what a fake. The ancients believe the Chi point is a good defense against attacks on your subconscious. The upper abdomen area is flexed using the diaphram muscle in stress response. You can relax this by breathing through it instead of chest breathing. You can deguass hypnotic eye contact by putting both palms next to your eyes, center your eyes, but concentrate on seeing your palms using both eyes in opposing directions. This was discovered to relieve tunnel vision.
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cyberjynx 1 year ago 2
Did anyone else noticed that Derren Brown Blinked FIRST on the second guy for sure?
cyberjynx 1 year ago 118
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europeanbamf 1 year ago
@cyberjynx at 1:47
Pope2501 1 year ago
@cyberjynx there's a difference between a blinking contest (who can not blink the longest) and a staring contest (who can look in the others eyes the longest).
skifflebunch 1 year ago
@skifflebunch Must be a British thing because in America a staring contest consist of staring and NOT blinking, there is no such thing as a blinking contest, not here anyway. When you have a running contest you run, when you have a breath holding contest you hold your breath, so when you have a "blinking" contest you ___?
cyberjynx 1 year ago
@cyberjynx yes i seen that
big1trumble 11 months ago
@cyberjynx It wasn't to see who would blink first, it was a staring contest. That same guy also closed his eyes and rubbed them and notice they didn't stop they kept going.
Prahdigy 10 months ago 2
@Prahdigy interesting, anyway I love this subject of human psychology, when the unseen and unnoticed is brought to the conscience. Should make everyone think about how its all used daily in ads, education and society control.
cyberjynx 10 months ago
@cyberjynx it's not a blink.
kuburga 10 months ago
@cyberjynx haha yer at 1:49
gbenemy 10 months ago
@cyberjynx that is the trick LOL
gigitata25 9 months ago
@cyberjynx it was not about blinking here..
ethrez 9 months ago
@cyberjynx
Yes he did.
jnse78 9 months ago
His opponent didn't seem to notice though.
nerlind 8 months ago
@cyberjynx lolhe did blink first lol mayb he did that on purpose?
WillHoepo 8 months ago
@cyberjynx its not a blinking contest its a staring contest.
bustillos1234 5 months ago
@cyberjynx It's "look away" not blink
KvaZaR 5 months ago
is that john locke? why didn't he just turn into dust and fly away?
JustinKwapich 1 year ago 4
It is basicly, anchoring, kinesics and conversational hypnosis HOW? Read some more about it on the net, or watch a video on Derren called "Russian scam" or "how to take someones wallet just by asking" am sure you will catch on fast enough
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my friend and i stared at each other for a good few minutes and it was fun. O_o Id like to compete haha.
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VailAlafred 1 year ago
BS if Derren Brown really had these powers he would have to be under security 24/7 as someone would surely assassinate him like they did with Gandhi Lennon the Kennedys Luther King and many others that had mesmerizing charisma & moved people. Also this is just called bullbaiting in Scientology and no scientologist would give in to Derren Brown! therefor that bald wuss can rub his eggshell as much as he wants but you dont convince me in the slightest. + we never see the premise of any of this bs
uncreativeranter 1 year ago
@uncreativeranter
Everyone can do that. You just need to train it.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@uncreativeranter ya maybe he doesn't pay them, but they never said they don't give participants meth before the taping!
admiralct 1 year ago
I bet this is how Rasputin did so well...
SavageGames 1 year ago
Do ya know how to end a staring competition, huh losers? This is how ; S-L-A-P!
genxxxersize 1 year ago
Derren Brown posesses a high-rank devil. Everywhere he goes this devil goes with him, he talks to him, Brown's knowledge and skills comes from that devil's mind.
Beware of Hypnosis, don't listen what Brown is saying.
First of all don't obey his words, If You will obey them then his master - the devil devil will have spiritual authority over Your person.
Beware. I say to You, Hypnosis is a gateway for unclean spirits, those being can then take control over You without You will !!!.
prorocyprawdy777 1 year ago
fake!!!!!!!!!!!!look at derren at 1:48 see???he lost and nobody says anything..
sweetbabyanda 1 year ago
Derren's face is very hard to stare at
sdaxm 1 year ago
Try it yourself in the mirror.
After 3 seconds the hypnosis effect kicks in.
After 5 seconds you will feel nauseous.
By focusing on the center of the triangle you are hypnotising yourself and the other person. That way you will create a direct gateway to the other persons subconscious. Because of the unpleasant feeling of the stare, that emotion is reinforced in the subconscious by a factor of ten. Don't do it for too long. It will make you feel very bad.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Before using a key-word such as "un/sub-conscious", maybe people should read about where it came from and what it supposedly does.
Associating psychology with mysticism is what gives the former a bad name.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
This has absolutely nothing to do with mysticism.
This is a show. He uses Hypnosis to influence the
subconscious. The subconscious is a scientific fact.
That's how the brain works.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz The un/sub-conscious is a scientific product.
Hypnosis is a product of mysticism and has no scientific basis.
The subconscious, as termed in psychoanalysis, allows no "direct gateways".
To paraphrase: that's how the un/sub-conscious works.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Hypnosis is how the brain works. Specifically self hypnosis. I use it every day. Just focus on one thing. That's it. Every effective form of communication is hypnotic. It is used in advertisement, propaganda and politics.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@reghin79
By the way, psychoanalysis is not the state of the art of psychology. The Brain is a product of evolution. It has an inherent structure. This structure can be made visible through magnetic resonance imaging. It clearly shows that hypnosis works.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
I simply brought up psychoanalysis because you used a term that this particular discipline has spawned: the unconscious.
So what you're saying is that neurologists today agree that hypnosis (and all that goes with it) is a legitimate scientific fact, after having observed brain activity during a "trance". Any references on that?
To say that effective communication = hypnosis is to say "there is no hypnosis", that there's only communication / that failure is miss-communication.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Hypnosis is a scientific fact. Every good movie that "pulls you in" uses hypnosis. Every form of communication that sticks in your mind is hypnotic. Whereas most communication is not hypnotic.
Hypnosis bypasses the critical/logical part of the brain and activates specific parts of the brain directly. That way people experience things as real which are only imagined. The activated brain parts which are needed for a particular task can be made visibile through MRI.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Hypnosis scientific............. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
OK. Show me some published studies (be they neurological, psychological, anything at all really) where hypnosis is being treated as scientific fact (and not scientific fiction for a change). The ones that helped shape your perspective will do.
Just reference the books and articles that you've read on this subject.
Thanks.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Hypnosis is established and widely used in all kinds of fields. Psychotherapy, Psychiatry, Marketing. All of Derren Browns stuff is based on it.
Go search Google. Studies are all over the internet. Can't post any links here on Youtube. Just type "Hypnosis MRI".
It can also be explained through evolutionary psychology. By focusing on one thing at a time you are making more progress which releases happiness hormones. This then activates the creative part of the brain.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Philip, please stop spitting fragmentary theories at me. I'm very familiar with them to begin with.
Secondly, Google is not an academic institution. This means that alongside serious studies posted there will also be a lot of crap.
I asked you before about the titles (+ author names) of the published studies you've read and which convinced you that hypnosis is a sci-fact.
Thirdly: "established and widely used" doesn't mean "legitimate".
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
I am not obliged to proof anything. You can do a self experiment as I mentioned in the comment. That can be reproduced anywhere anytime. That is scientific.
Evolution is not a fragmentary theory. You seem to be ideologically biased.
The evolutionary approach to mood changes and how it effects behaviour is studied by primatologists such as Frans de Vaal. The book is called "Chimpanzee politics".
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Thanks for the references. They will be looked into (especially hypnotic paralysis which I usually read about with enthusiasm). Could you also tell me according to which theorists you define the term hypnosis? I may have an idea about your paradigm problem.
I have been more than open to positive results when recreating experiments concerning hypnosis. No luck. It sure makes for good poetry though: "direct gateway into a person's subconscious" must be part of "Ode to Hypnosis".
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Modern Hypnotherapy was made famous by Milton Erickson. Hypnotherapy is empirically proven to be effective. The treatment includes depression, stopping smoking, loosing weight and all kinds of anxieties. There is a systematic procedure to it. I may not works equally well with all people but it has nothing to do with luck.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz See? What did I tell you... New age nonsense from Bandler and Grinder inspired by Erikson no doubt.
When I first heard the name Erikson during the first discussion I had concerning NLP, I thought to myself "Erik Erikson? How could he betray his practice in such a way?". As it turned out it was the obscure Milton, not the bright Erik, that we were discussing.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Not New Age you don't understand hypnosis. Your basis of discussion is rumor and hearsay.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Your definition (provided by Dennet) of a trance is how we in the real world refer to socialization. It's not hypnosis, it's not mind control, it's not NLP, it is stages of learning with a notion of dynamics attached (along the lines of pleasure/danger dichotomy). Hypnosis, as Bandler (Erikson) points out, is in a position to impose, leave no room for said dynamics (i.e. Derren and his Jedi like mind control applications).
Anything you might have left out of your definition?
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Socialization is not a conscious act. It is unconscious. Children learn from their pears without thinking about it. They just copy. Hypnosis is not mind control. It is based on rapport between two people. If a person doesn't want to be hypnotized or is somehow suspicious it doesn't work. Hypnosis is the essence of learning. Without hypnosis no learning. Hypnosis is a state of 100% concentration. No sleeping. No loss of awareness.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@reghin79
I doubt you have even seen the video. Watch it again. Pay attention how Derren interacts with the people he hypnotizes. They are doing it voluntarily. He is not forcing them. He creates rapport. In a matter of seconds. The point where they couldn't handle it anymore they stopped. The last guy was a bit masochistic ;)
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
It's mostly not hearsay. I've looked into NLP through its prime developers. And as far as hear-say goes, it's based on discussions with NLP practitioners and hypnotherapists.
Bear in mind that learning is not limited to being taught.
Since we're mentioning Derren's hypnotico-orthodox work, have you seen his video entitled "Invisible Man" or the one where he hypnotizes a woman in the middle of the street immobilizing her?
He probably has a more complex definition for hypnosis.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Derren Brown uses simple Hypnosis. He first builds up trust by for example taking the persons hand and looking them deep in the eye. This opens the person up for suggestion. As you can hear at 1:30 of "Invisible Man" he says "You simply can't see me". The subconscious then erases Derren from the hypnotized persons visual field.
The advertisement industry uses the same techniques to make you buy their products.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
I understand what Derren supposedly does in "the invisible man"; I know the principle, and I have this to say: COME ON !!!
You can't really believe this garbage, right? Is it doublethinking that you're practicing? I don't even know what more to say... maybe "you simply can't see" it [the bullshit].
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
You are bullshit. If you think it doesn't work you have to disprove it. You are not interested in learning something new. I can't help you.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
No need to get aggressive Philip. I don't only think it doesn't work, I know it doesn't work. Haven't you been paying attention?
Now if it were to remain in the realm of magic where it began its journey, hypnosis would have been a harmless lie. However, its recent rise in popularity among various eccentric scholars (mostly "nacirema") is alarming. This leap towards scientific legitimacy of mystical elements such as hypnosis is a curious social phenomenon that needs explaining.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Only because some legitimate methods are used by mystics doesn't make it wrong.
Yes hypnosis has been practiced by shamans over thousands of years. And it has been practiced that long exactly because it works. Read "Breaking the spell" by Daniel Dennett on Amazon. Use "Search Inside" and search for "hypnosis".
Hypnosis has evolved. Thats the whole trick. You need to see things from an evolutionary perspective an everything makes sense.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@reghin79
Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon , Daniel Dennett
Read Chapter 5.4 "Shamans as hypnotists"
Page 135-137
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Hehe, well shamans are still at it today, putting on shows for drug abusers (guess) at Stanford, no less.
Scenario: camera fixed on shaman -> shaman makes magic gestures ->shaman puts an infant on the table -> utters unintelligible words -> shaman pulls out a butcher's knife -> shaman chops child into little pieces -> puts everything away and rests in cross-arm position.
Video recording shows him standing still.
Told by Stanford professor 2 years ago.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
But they also heal people. A lot of physical illnesses are connected to how people think. By changing their believe system these illnesses can be healed. It's called the placebo effect.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Now there's some hard-core hypnosis (I assume drugs help a lot) and there's "primitive" culture showing its tail in a "modern" setting.
Evolution? Thanks but I'd rather stick with structuralism.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
It has nothing to do with drugs. The ability to be hypnotized is a biological function of the human brain. Like language is a function. Chimpanzees don't have that. That's why you can teach chimpanzees as long as you want and they will never be able to speak. The reason is, these functions evolved through evolution. They helped humans to survive and reproduce. Structuralism can't explain that.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Placebo effect indeed. It all depends on your definition of "curing" or "healing". Though I wouldn't deny the empirical data on placebo, I have to say that temporarily TRICKING(not hypnotizing) a person into thinking that they have been cured of psychosomatic illness, depression, phobias and so forth hardly qualifies as curing. And make no mistake:it always works for a limited amount of time.
I can't fit functional-structuralism in such a tiny text box as you did with evolution.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
The trickery is a moral question. But they use hypnosis non the less. You don't need to sit in front of someone with a watch to hypnotize him. A lot of these people don't even now how it works. They just have a charismatic personality. They have an influence on people and they use it.
The Problem I see with structuralism is that it doesn't provide a scientific explanation to how the brain really works. It gives descriptions but it doesn't explain why things happen in the first place
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@reghin79
There is an Interview of Derren Brown with Richard Dawkins where he explains how psychics work. It is called "the so called messiah".
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@reghin79
Sorry wrong video. Search for "derren brown richard dawkins".
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
I've seen Dawkins' documentary ("Enemies of Reason" I think) a few years ago and I remember Derren Brown speaking to him about cold reading. What can I say... there are worse contradictions in the world than having mystics speak against the enemies of reason.
So if trickery is as you deem it, an unethical hypnosis but hypnosis non the less, aren't then psychics hypnotists as well? Maybe I'm rushing but please bear with me... (I said BEAR; are you thinking of a bear yet?)
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Hypnosis is just a method to focus and lead your attention and put you into an altered state. This altered state can then be used to suggest something. Suggestion can also be used on it's own but isn't that effective. The trickery starts when people don't tell the truth about what they are doing. Psychics usually use cold reading(speakint to the dead) to create rapport with people. The psychics I talk about are Peter Popoff and Doris Collins(exposed by James Randi).
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Great job not answering the questions. Never mind.
Funny you should mention James Randi, friend of Penn Jillette and Teller; one of the many things that these three people have in common is skepticism towards hypnosis (namely hypnotherapy). Granted that Randi appears to be a bit more tolerant than the other two (which works with his being a bit more spiritual). None the less, a respectable fellow that bears Houdini's cross proudly. (are you thinking of a bear yet?)
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Your suggestion doesn't work. It's just to obvious. Maybe you should try to hypnotize me first :) Watch Derren Brown. He's a master in disguising his commands.
Hypnosis is scientific in the sense that the things you fantasize are processed by the brain as if they where real. The same thing could be done by measuring a person while dreaming. The difference is, in a dream you can't consciously change the way the fantasy is going.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
I've also become a master at disguising my commands. The bear is just misdirection, the real commands are well hidden in plain sight, he he.
Hypnosis is scientific because the object that it affects happens to be a subject of scientific enquiry? Needs more.
Have you ever wondered how far along the vectors of positivism psychology claims to be? In case you have, your hypnosis reaches no further than psy. on said vector.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Seems we are finally on the same page. Hypnosis is a very effective technique for changing the subconscious. 95% of the body are not controlled consciously but unconsciously. Like breathing, digesting, walking and all over kinds of habits. If you want to change that just talking about it wont do anything. Thats where hypnosis comes into play. The problem with psychology is that it isn't very scientific at all. Hypnosis fits more into evolutionary psychology.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Sorry, we're not quite on the same page. I just haven't made myself clear because this text box is too small. Telling me over and over that hypnosis is effective won't make it so.
I grant you that psychotherapy proves ineffective in many cases, but to my knowledge, hypnotherapy proves ineffective in all cases(you need a lifetime of sessions in order to "program" subconscious dynamics; psy does not claim to have such parameters)
At some point we might discuss what makes a science
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Hypnosis is ten times faster, sometimes even one hundred times faster then psychotherapy. I've done psychotherapy myself for probably half a year with one session a week. Effects where very small and it cost me a lot of money. Psychotherapy focuses on the negative things. The things that cause you trouble. And tries to solve it by rational discussion. The problem is, it doesn't effect your behavior at all. Behavior can only be changed by going in to the subconscious.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Psychoanalysis and "rational discussion". Well you'd be the first to draw this conclusion. And if by discussion you mean dialogue, then your therapist should have stayed in school longer.
Psy-therapy is slower because it regards your life as full of meaning. Psy-analysts believe that generic "positive thinking" will not erase trauma accumulated within your lifetime, that certain "negative things" must come out and be dealt with, in order for change to occur.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
I completely agree with your objection to pure positive thinking. However Hypnosis is not about positive thinking but about focusing on your goals. This leads to higher levels of serotonin which especially in depressed people are relatively low. What you are doing it tapping into your bodies own drug resource.
Having a good mood is essential for being creative dealing with problems.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
By GENERIC positive thinking I was implicitly referring to goal oriented therapy.
Psy-therapists believe that behavior can't be altered by addressing the present state of a patient, that the therapist's role is to help a patient dig through layers of consciousness via past experiences in order to get to the root of present behavior. Present behavior is regarded as a product of gradual accumulation.
But I assume you already know this and have decided it was not worth the wait.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
That's because the brain doesn't work like that. Trying to solve the past is a very complex task. That takes a lot of energy. The brain is designed to process one thing at a time. If you take that into account, thing in the present can be solved step by step. This is based on neuroscience. Psychotherapy unfortunately is not.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@reghin79
By the way. Freund was wrong (repressed sexuality) and Adler was right (strive for power).
Reference:
"Chimpanzee Politics: Power and Sex Among Apes" by Frans de Waal
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Jeez... next time you tell me which humanist (that's right humanist) is right and which is wrong try to reference someone other than an ethologist (I presume, since chimps are his area of expertise). Anyway what does it matter whose side we take, what matters is that both have ended up discarding hypnosis (via pendulum or without).
Instead of taking sides, rather try to understand what cultural stimuli contributed to their orientations and how perspectivism reigns over them.
reghin79 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
I don't know where you get some of your facts but Psy anamnesis is a gradual ("one thing at a time" as you say) procedure and it is imperative to address all phases of development. Childhood representation never tell the whole story.
And psy doesn't claim to "solve" the past, it helps people cope with past trauma (this word isn't as bad as it sounds, look it up in a psy dictionary) at times when past experience tempers with the present.
Only naive disciplines claim to "solve".
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
See that's where you are wrong. Chimpanzees share 99% of our genes. They also have the same social emotions. They create networks. Their brain works the same way as ours. That seems to clash with your view of human nature. Your view of human nature is based on ideology. Mine on evolution.
p.s. Frans de Waal is a primatologist.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Peace Philip. It's almost as if you're arguing about favorite bands. And your favorite band "The Evolution" is far more appealing to me than other bands of the same genre. But still, it only covers a small portion of my musical appetite. [After the evolutionary leap towards the homo sapien] a range of different musical genres begin to emerge, picking up where the other left off.
I don't know how clear I've made myself.
I believe primatology is still a branch of ethology.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
Unfortunately that's not true. The social sciences don't have a valid model for how human beings function. Their very basis is pure speculation. The only explanation as how human beings function can be provided by evolution. Every organ in human beings has evolved through natural selection. This also applies to the human brain. Maybe you aren't as free in your decision making as you would like to think.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Then maybe I haven't made myself clear. Forget about it, I'm done throwing clever puns at you.
You keep repeating evolution->nat.sel.->chimp brain->human brain. Fine, you don't want to think beyond that, which is typically evolutionary.
Evolution's dynamics is measured in eras, I like to measure dynamics in fractions of seconds.
To each his own.
reghin79 1 year ago
@reghin79
It's not about thinking. It's about instincts and emotions. They control us. That hasn't changed. You can think all you want all your life but human nature won't change. Our mind is designed for survival and replication. You're welcome to give examples that refute this.
philippschuetz 1 year ago
@philippschuetz
Correction: our mind is designed for survival, replication and playing basketball. Oh and it was also designed for a little thing we could refer to as "everything else that people all over the world do".
Your view of human beings is very simplistic. Man is far more than an animal (hence phrases like social/political/economic animal etc). You are far more than an animal.
Now I must raise these questions: have you ever seen a suicidal animal? How about an abstinent animal?
reghin79 1 year ago