Who is most favoured by Allah? He from the greatest good cometh to his creatures. -Sayings of Muhammad p. 89 Muhammad said to good and that Allah favors them most.
«ماذا تُرِيْدُ مِنّا يا يَسُوعُ النّاصِرِيُّ؟ هَلْ جِئْتَ لِكَيْ تُهلِكَنا؟ أنا أعرِفُ مَنْ تَكُونُ، أنتَ قُدُّوسُ اللهِ.» فَوَبَّخَهُ يَسُوعُ وَقالَ لَهُ: «اخرَسْ وَاخرُجْ مِنْهُ! What do you want of us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, you are the Holy One of God. »Jesus rebuked him and said:« Shut up and get out of it! -Mark 1:24-25 (Arabic to English translation). It uses the word Allah to mean God. This verse proves Jesus is not God.
Jesus founded the Catholic Church. The proof. Read the words and beliefs of the Church Fathers who were taught by the Apostles. They believed in the Eucharist and many other catholic beliefs.
You cant judge him as Fake, God who jnows the heart of a man is his judge. Whatever u may call it. This man is out to Pour out his heart. He'is found Peace and Love in Jesus. All that the Quran wrote about Jesus is what u should call "FAKE" seek Christ faithfully, u will find him. Jesus is lord.
Internet is So Powerful, How can Muslim and Islam Countries blinded upon the Truth today. From NDE testimony and visiting Heaven and Hell. It is not a Joke, We are not Ignorant and keep argue with some religious matter. Only him is the Way.
Jesus show on Islam and NDE this year increasing. Yes, they see heaven. If I tell you the truth, read Dante Alighieri's 'Dante Divine Comedy' about the fate of Muhammad. It shows that Modern NDE and thousand of Patient see afterlife even Muhammad! Jesus, tell the People to Love, a highest kind of Love (Unconditional Love). Did Jesus promise Us a Heaven and Only Love can save Us.
The Rev Kirsten Slettenaar, Exodus Church's regular priest, also rejects the idea - widely considered central to Christianity - that Jesus was divine as well as human.
"I think 'Son of God' is a kind of title," she says. "I don't think he was a god or a half god. I think he was a man, but he was a special man because he was very good in living from out of love, from out of the spirit of God he found inside himself."
@22grena They were both righteous people. the answer to you question is neither. They were bot good and kind loving prophets of God. To me Allah (God) is greater than both of them and He is greater than anything or anyone. Allah is not only used by Muslims. look in an arabic bible translation. You get Allah الله The word "Allah" is used by arabic speaking Jews & Christians.
@22grena «ماذا تُرِيْدُ مِنّا يا يَسُوعُ النّاصِرِيُّ؟ هَلْ جِئْتَ لِكَيْ تُهلِكَنا؟ أنا أعرِفُ مَنْ تَكُونُ، أنتَ قُدُّوسُ اللهِ.» فَوَبَّخَهُ يَسُوعُ وَقالَ لَهُ: «اخرَسْ وَاخرُجْ مِنْهُ! What do you want of us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, you are the Holy One of God. »Jesus rebuked him and said:« Shut up and get out of it! -Mark 1:24-25 (Arabic to English translation). It uses the word Allah to mean God. It is evidence that Jesus (a.s) is not God.
If Jesus is love, then why are millions of people suffering. God condones violence. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it untrue. Prove me wrong.
@FarrisB927 You can only one answer that. Miracles came from mysteriously. Seek jesus in your Heart, he will show you the way! People have a heart of Stone, they denied him whatever miracles he made. People suffering because they cannot found Jesus on their heart. this is the absence of Holy Spirit or Spiritual Guidance upon their life!
i think you will find that jesus was mentioned in the quran if you ha d actually read it one more point you follow the bible but this is not the same book sent to jesus from god as the original version no longer exists thats why there are so many different versions why arent they the same because they ave been changed is the quran any different than the day it was revealed no its the same as when it was first revealed in arabic GOD CHALLENED HUMAN BEGINS IN THE QURAN TO CHANGE IT IF THEY CAN
BeCAB - Are you teaching me Arabic? The vowels were introduced for "Non - Arabic" speakers to enhance the pronounciation to make it replicate the spoken Arabic so the revelation is replicated and perfecyted by non Arabic Speaking people. The Arabic meaning does not chnage with the vowels or markings - it is the same Arabic word and meaning. You are clutching on half baked idiocy.. I for one am bored..explaining to you Bible Bashers.
@KHANtheGreatWarrior The assertion that the so-called Uthmannic redaction can be considered the 'original' quran is precisely the myth that BesABC was talking about. Why don't you open up your eyes to the utter vacuity of the quran? It's a rubbishy text, irrespective of the degree of corruption or authenticity of the text.
Vasilis719: Do you even read the bible and try to "interpret" it through some kind of a theologian scholar or priest..or you make up things as you go along. John 1: 19-21 refers to future prophets and not dead prophets. You are the first Christian to refer to the 3 questions trying to understand John the Baptists identity as referring to dead prophets?? when it clearly referred to future prophets.
No scholar can "speculate" on "intent" against Christianity; they can only follow chronology. As we have seen; "intent" would have to be accepted as Saint Paul and emperor Constantine having no reason other than "faith" to convert. God trully works in mysterious ways. A Christian hating Jew, and emperor of the same Roman empire that crucified Christ. "
@Vasilis719 - what is the point of this post??? it is again drivvle.. Constantine incorporated Roman paganism into the israelite religion. The Cross, Easter, celebration of the birth of a Roman mythological God. The central church REMAINED tot his day THE ROMAN CATHOLIC Church. Catholic meaning "universal" .this was pagan in origin and always ENFORCED by the romans on invaded countries/people. Constantine kept pagan belief and slaughtered the UNITARIAN true israelites,
@vasilis: Constantine absorbed the "idea" of Christ specifically the emphasis on virgin birth and crucificition into their already EXISTING pagan mythology..look up horus. Thus a new religion based around Christ was created with pagan roots, UNITARIAN true Christians who were ISRAELITES were slaughtered, unitarian gospels burnt and NEW VERSIONS by UNKNOWN authors were introduced..rst is history and I have to listen to your drivvle today ;)
That would mean, that the SAME virigin birth that you criticize as "pagan", is the SAME virigin birth that islam believes in!!!!!LOL. Saint Paul was Jewish, and the bases of what YOU criticized before..LOLOL. So which is IS IT????LOL. A Jew isn't "Jewish" enough, then a Roman isn't "Jewish" enough, yet your mohammed didn't follow the "Judiac" israelite belief ANYWAY!!!!!LOL. Your so tied up in your frustartion, your running in circles..LOL.
@Vasilis719 - I am telling you how Pagan Rome introduced the idea of Trinity and Virgin borth of Horus and other such deities please look into this at your leisure and found similarity in the birth of the messenger of God - Jesus (pbuh) son of MAry (pbuh) the most Honurable. Hence the emphasis on Christian faith on virgin birth and crucifiction and little on ISRAELITE rtradition, laws, religion and distance from the covenant made with Abraham. why? because these ideas sit well with paganism.
@Vasilis719 - I am not calliong the virgin birth pagan, I am calling the Christian description of the virgin birth absorbs many pagan existing beliefs that were already held in high esteem by the Romans and Greek. Hence understanding the Israelite religion from the concept of Jesus (pbuh) or a misguided concept of Jesus (pbuh) seemed reasonable for The declinign Roman Empire. Have you been to THE VATICAN?? celebrates Roman History, religion, semi nude paintings & idols not ISRAELITE RELIGION.
Whats the point of a Roman emperor converting to a religion that took away his supreme authority, and accepted the belief of a people he "ruled", and who HE had to answer to as equals??LOL. Is that a SERIOUS ????!!!!LOL. Also..Constantine wasn't Catholic!!!!LOLOL. "Catholic" is a Greek word, and I"M Greek. It's actually 2 words; meaning "everyone" and "everything". The Cross is the symbol of Roman torture, of which Christ died upon..not something Christian Rome was proud of.
@Vasilis719 - Christianity was created to absirb the people of Damascus, modern day Jordan and Palestine. The Roman empire was "crumbling away"..iuf the Israelites were not passified and controlled then the decline of The Roman Empire would have begun alot earlier. Constantine therefore accepted Christ and in doing so also destroyed UNITARIANS i.e. Israelites, destroyed the Aramaic and Hebrew real Injeel and promoted a new thesis in Greek which absorbed Pagan beleifs.
THIS IS THE LAST WORDS I WILL SAY ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. YOUR DEBT TO THIS DEBATE, IS OVERVFLOWING BEYOND REPAIR...LOLOL. FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT(JEWISH TORAH)..ISAIAH 9:6="FOR UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN, UNTO US A SON IS GIVIN; AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL BE UPON HIS SHOULDERS; AND HIS NAME WILL BE CALLED WONDERFUL, COUNCELLOR, THEY MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE".
PSALM 110:1(OLD TESTAMNET, JEWISH TORAH).."THE LORD SAID UNTO MY LORD, SIT THOU AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE THINE ENEMIES THY FOOTSTOOL". HEBREWS 1:2-3(SAME THING).."HATH IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN UNTO US BY HIS SON, WHOM HE HATH APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS, BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLDS; WHO BRING THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS GLORY, AND THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON, AND UPHOLDING ALL THINGS BY THE WORD OF HIS POWER..continued..
@Vasilis719 - Wron their is no distinction between the religion of Islam and the civenant made with Abraham (pbuh) and the relgiion practiced by the prophets. We uphold the covenant made with Abraham (pbuh), we uphold the laws passed onto Moses not the man amde rabbinic teachings (evil scribes). We glorify the virgin birth of Jesus (pbuh) who was sent but only to the House of Israel. We glorify Jesus The prophet and messenger like NO OTHER COMMUNITY on this planet.
No suprise that ALL your responses are STILL in avoidance of the DIRECT challenges on islam..LOLOL. Easter is dated from the early Jewish Christians; and the Orthodox tradition follows Passover before it celebrates Easter..hence, following the Judiac tradition of Passover, and recreating what happened in the Bible. No one knows Jesus exact birth; and December 25th was picked SPECIFICALLY to replace a pagan holiday..which would be sacrilege to pagan Rome.
@Vasilis719 - Wrong I ask you to google the origins of Christmas it is linked to Pagan believes and festivities..it is widely known that the birth of Jesus (pbuh) was in Middle of the year, May/June or July. Horus was born in december, The 25th was a great Roman festivity has nothing to dow ith passover speak to a Jew. Easter comes from the Persian Goddess Ishtar, the Persians celbreated this by giving each other Ishtar eggs. Jews kept impeccable records of births and deaths -
CONSTANINE WASN'T EVEN CATHOLIC..LOLOL. He was ruler of the Holy Orthodox church; which was the first Christian church; and based on the teachings of the Apostles. Your version of history is full of wishfull thinking, and pure ignorance of facts..LOLOLOL. "Orhtodox" means the "correct dogma". On the OTHER hand, we have the symbol of the "scimitar" in islam(a sword), which is EXACLTY the symbol of "slaughter". How ironic..LOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - Catholic means everyone i.e. "universal" meant the Roman UNIVERSAL for everyone Church. It did not begin with Christianity BUT existed from the dawn of The Roman era.. it was their universal Pagan Church absorbing religions and conquered people across the empire into a Roman UNIVERSAL Church and they did the same to The Israelites. In Islam the only symbol is LA ILAHA ILALLAH MUHAMAMDUR RASOOL ALLAH There is but only One GOd an Muhammad is his messenger.
..continued..'WHEN HE HAD BY HIMSELF PURGED OUR SINS, SAT DOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE MAJESTY ON HIGH". JEREMIAH 23:5-6(OLD TESTAMNET, JEWISH TORAH).."BEHOLD, THE DAYS COME, SAITH THE LORD, THAT I WILL RAISE UNTO DAVID A RIGHTEOUS BRANCH; AND A KING SHALL REIGN AND PROSPER, AND SHALL EXECUTE JUDGMENT AND JUSTICE ON EARTH. IN HIS DAYS, JUDAH SHALL BE SAVED, AND ISRAEL SHALL DWELL SAFETLY; AND HIS NAME WHEREBY HE SHALL BE CALLED; THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS".
ALL THE WORDS I HAVE PRESENTED, AREGIVIN FROM THE SAME JEWSIH TORAH THAT BOTH JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FOLLOW; AND THE SAME BIBLE YOUR TRYING TO USE TO JUSTIFY mohammed..LOLOLOL. THE END.
@Vasilis719 - Qu'ran is exactly the same Qu'ran known as Uthmani Qu'ran same script which was mass produced by khalifah Uthman ibne Afwqaan - shaheed (RA). This Qu'ran was compiled and put together in the life time of prophet Muhammad and put togehter and safe by Khalifah Abu Bakar Sideeq (RA). The markings do not chnage the arabic word but enhance pronounciation for NON ARABIC readers so they can replicate the arabic pronounciation. Qu'ran means read, to proclaim..we must read it aloud.
As we have senn..your wishfull parallels fail on bases of "intent" and bases of your OWN "theology" as well..LOL. There were MANY korans(one of which is said to have been of mohammed's secretary), and the "one" you have today is the one your 3rd calpih came up with. The koran WAS NOT compiled in mohammed's lifetime..it was a series of random writings on sloppy things like palm leaves and animal bones. There is no evidence of the koran in the 1st century after moahmmed's death.
your research is wrong and no doubt comes from anti Islamic false spreading sites. The history of Al Qu'ran Al Majeed is well written and recorded, Uthmani Qu'ran was the same Qu'ran compiled and recorded in the lifetime of Muhammad (SAW) stored and prottected by Abu Bakr Sideek... when the Islamic dominions grew and people spread the words to non arabs and ppl who had not seen the prophet (pbuh) or Sahabah and began writing their own "translations".
@vasilis719: Uthmani Qu'ran Part 2: In islam we do not accept anything to be revelation unless it comes from the source thus the poor translations were required to be destroyed. As these translations did not replicate the original Qu'ran and were largely very poor and inaccurate they were totally corrupt and were therefore abbrogations and falsehood.
Uthman (RA) sent Sahabah to each dominion to teach the real Qu'ran, they found many variations of Qu'ran. Uthman (RA) then mass produced the Qu'ran kept safe by Abu Bak Sideeq now in his (pbwh) posession. Hence why it was called Uthmani Qu'ran, this was sent to everyone requiring an authentic qu'ran. ALL coipies were collected and DESTROYED.
@Vasilis719: The markings, dots and vowels as you call them were introduced many years later I agree but they bear no weight on "changing" the meaning of the arabic text. They ENHANCE the pronounciation so non arabs could read Qu'ranic arabic in the way it was supposed to be read. Qu'ran means to recite, to proclaim.. one must read it poetically aloud and only then is it a revelation therefore the pronounciation, spoken Arabic had to be correct..v.important for non arabs especially.
THIS IS THE WEAKEST ARGUMENT IN DEFENSE OF islam THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN..LOLOLOL. 'ENHANCE' CAN CHANGE A WORD FROM "FIGHT" TO "KILL", OR "VIRGINS" TO "GRAPES", DEPENDING ON WHERE THE DOTS FIT. NEVER THE LESS.THERE ISN'T A SHRED OF PROOF, OR A SINGLE WITNESS FOR mohammed OR the koran. IT'S A SELF SERVING MANIPULATION OF A PLUNDERER. I HAVE GIVIN YOU DIRECT QUOTES FROM YOUR koran THAT YOU HAVE AVOIDED AT ALLLL COSTS..LOLOL. CAN'T DISPUTED; IT'S FROM YOUR mohammed..LOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - Arabic is not like English, The word is defiend by the root word which is NOT ALTERED by having dots and vowels. The vowels are there to make non arabs recite Qu'ranic arabic in the way it should be recited. You have given me drivvle, like the drivvle to support trinity. I think we shall leave it a this..I often walk away with a banging headache after speaking to a bible basher... for the sake of my sanity..I bid you good day. You surely are a troubled lamb.
ARABIC ISN'T EVEN THE LANGUAGE OF THE PEOPLE SPOKEN ABOUT..LOLOL. SOMEHOW "ARABIC" WAS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LANGUAGE OF "GOD", AT THE CONVENIENCE OF mohammed..LOLOLOL. SPECIAL PRIVLEGES FOR WIVES, WHORES, AND PLUNDER; ALLLLL FOR YOUR "PROPHET"..LOLOL. HE TELLS YOU TO NOT TAKE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS FRIENDS, AND THAT HE WILL "STRIKE OF THEIR HEADS; THE VERY TIPS OF THEIR FINGERS". AMONG A MOUNTAIN OF OTHER SICKENING THOUGHT OF A SUPPOSED "PROPHET", AND HIS SUPPOSEDE "WORDS"..LOL
@Vasilis719 - So where is YOUR AUTHENTIC Hebrew Injeel??? - where is it.. The romans had it either locked away or burnt and YOUR OLDEST Scripture is in the GREEK... the blue print for the modern Bible is GREEK. The OT is alot more violent, You take Qu'ran out of context a shallow exercise and youa r enot the first bible basher. The smite neck refers to the pagans and jews WHO BROKE a treaty with muslims and conspired to ANNIHILATE each muslim man, woman and child..
A PLUNDERER, BUTCHER, LUSTFULL, SELF SERVING HYPOCRIT HAS NO PLACE AS A "MESSENGER OF GOD". THE END. PERIOD. YOU HAVE BURIED YOURSELF IN SUCH A DEEP HOLE; IT'S JUST PITIFUL TO THROW ANY MORE DIRT ON YOU..LOLOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - Istaghfar I pity your soul, your grave is yours even if you do not believe as I do and feel that you follow in the footsteps of Al Masih (The Messiah) your words, actions are of a very spiteful, vindictive man who has no fear of God in his heart let alone love. Your words are your actions & your actions are of a vindictive zealot, out of context, aggressive and non aspiring let alone inspiring.
@Vasilis719 - I agree The FINAL END.. :) S. P. Scott writes in, History of the Moorish Empire in Europe, p. 126:
If the object of religion be the inculcation of morals, the diminution of evil, the promotion of human happiness, the expansion of the human intellect, if the performance of good works will avail in the great day when mankind shall be summoned to its final reckoning it is neither irreverent nor unreasonable to admit that Muhammad was indeed an Apostle of God.
@Vasilis719 - Lamartine a French historian, writes in his book, History of Turkey, p. 276:
Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may ask, is there any man greater than he?
@Vasilis719 Lamartine contd “If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and outstanding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, and empires only. They founded, if any at all, no more than material power which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man merged not only armies, legislation, empires, peoples and dynasties but millions of men in one third of the inhabited world...
@Vasilis719 - Lamartine concludes..and more than that, moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls on the basis of a Book, every letter of which has become law. He created a spiritual nationality of every tongue and of every race.” (Historie de la Turqu,, Vol. 2, page 76-77)
@Vasilis719 - I will hapily provide 100's of other accounts of Historians who actually bothered to study Islam and The Son of Abraham (pbuh) Muhammad SAW. He reverted Arabia tot he Religion of their forefather, chnaged Arab society for the better, created a unfied nation, a society governed by the principles of God Almighty his was a Godly Nation and the wisdom that flowed and love and equality spread to every corner of the world and continues to do so without a sword.. open ure eyes
@ALANSARALHAQ "The markings, dots and vowels as you call them were introduced many years later I agree but they bear no weight on "changing" the meaning of the arabic text. They ENHANCE the pronounciation" 'Enhancing' the pronunciation? Maybe you mean clarify or disambiguate. The Arabic script that the Qur'an was originally written in did not only not have the vowel marks but several consonants were undistinguishable. An unchanged original Qur'an is a Muhammadan myth.
@BesACB The thing you do not know about the arabian culture before islam is that it was a memorizing culture... read my dear, the only nation that had a special bazaar to sell arabic literature (before islam) and make very serious championships between arabic poets is the arabic nation. the winner was to have his poem hanged high on the Ka'aba..! people usually memorized poems of 100 verses and more from the first or second time, so what do you think of those reciting it continuously in prayers?
@ibnalbeetar1 A 'memorizing culture'! All oral traditions depend on memorization and poetry competitions are by no means unique to Arab culture. Think of the Welsh eistedfodd and the poetry and drama competitions of the ancient Greeks. You fail to make your point.
@BesACB Moreover, you, in this era, are saying that the Qur'an is changed or manipulated.. i say you're saying it with no much knowledge about it or its meanings, or even without studying for the history of attacking the Qur'an.. the older nations did not even dare to say that, because they knew the ways and the tools that were created by muslims to keep this book out of edition. if you want to attack us, ask first, then say whatever you want, but attacking with no knowledg is null and illogical
@BesACB i find your video is fake you became christian because you got a free bible jesus is mentioned in the quran so if it was him you were looking for you didnt lokk hard enough
@spacer567 One: it's not my video, two: I'm definitely not a Christian, three: your argument is illogical (if Jesus could be found in a 6th century book, he can a fortiori be found in the 2nd century New Testament, where he is made out to be the Son of God, in which capacity he can NOT be found in the Qur'an).
@BesACB The reason why the vowel marks were added was because people of other countries were reciting it WRONG, so, it IS the same scripture, just that people recited it wrong.
MY SOURCES ABOUT islam, ARE 70% FROM muslims SOURCES..LOLOLOL. THE CHRONOLOGY, AND FACTS ABOUT WHAT I'VE PRESENTED WEREN'T GIVIN TO YOU AS "SPECUALTION"; THY'RE CONCRETE INFORMATION ON THE HISTORY OF islam AND the koran. PERIOD. YOUR QUOTE DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DEFEND YOUR VWISHFULL THINKING, IN THE LEAST. YOUR koran IS A mohammedan INVENTION. THE END.
@Vasilis719 - Elias is Elijah I agree... but 3 questions were asked, are you Elias / Elijah are you the Messiah or are you "That Prophet"- the unlettered prophet in Isaiah prophecy, from the princes of Kedar. Kedar was the son of Ishmael (pbuh), from the mountains of Paran (Arabia) from thevalley of Bakkah (Makkah). ... Who was this "other" Prophet.
John 1:19-END=Not a a SINGLE word about an "unlettered" prophet" or "princes of kedar"..LOLOL. Are you simply "hoping" to make "falsehood" a "reality"????LOLOL. What IS said, is..(John 1:34)" And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God". Also; Jesus said(John 8:58).."I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am". YOU'RE A COWARD WHO WILL GET UP TO GET KICKED DOWN, OVER AND OVER AGAIN..LOLOL. YOUR LUCKY I'M EVEN ANSWERING ANYTHING MORE, AFTER ALLLL YOUR COWARDLY AVOIDANCE
@Vasilis719 - No I am no coward, I am not used to discussing with those who promote themselves as a defender of his faith but with limited understanding. So your telling me there is no prophecy in the Old Testament of a "unletterd" prophet. I would look into "on your" on offcourse on people like Eusebius whow as a Trinitarian an dhow he introduced the trinitartian creed into the Bible.
Wow..this too easy..LOLOL. "Book of Malachi".."Elias"(Hellenized version "Elijah") "returns before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord". Hw does one that hasn't existed yet "RETURN"??????LOLOLOL. Your so tied up in your frustration, your throwing ANYTHING out in blind hope of keeping yourself from drowning..LOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - Elijah is the same as Elias... in John 1: 19-21 JOhn the Baptist is asked about ELias/Elijah one and the same - who Israelites felt will return. 2ndly we know who The Messiah was but the third is unaccounted for i.e. That Prophet. Now rather than be derogatory - calm down and show me the errors of my way explain who this 3rd prophet was. If you do not know say so do not dig further into the grave of conjecture you aer digging.
No kidding..LOLOL. As was said.."Elias" is Greek from "Elijah". The narrative in the Bible, is that "Elijah" will return before the great and terrible day of the Lord. You, on the other hand, didn't understand this concept, and NOW want to sell it as YOUR OWN!!!!LOLOL. Their is NO chronology in the narrative of John; of a "prophet" to follow the Messiah, or to pre-date "Elijah". It's a general term; which pre-dates mohammed by 600 years!!!!LOLOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - In John 1: 19-21 John the Baptist is asked about 3 disnctive personalities to see if he is any of them; 1) Messiah to which he (pbuh) answered NO. 2) Elias / Elijah to which he replies No ...AND THREE Are you That Prophet..meaning a third prophet asked as a 3rd question and he replies for The Third time NO.
Also; it would mean the story in John, means they were speaking about a "prophet" BEFORE the Messiah; and they were inticipating "corruption" of "scripture", even before they had known the Messiah..LOLOLOL. This..while serving the Christian sentiment; which follows the Jewish Torah as Old Testament!!!!!LOLOLOL. That would mean..the same people who you are trying to sell as waiting for moahammed, didn't wait for him, OR accept him..so what then would be the point?!!LOL. END..LOL
@Vasilis719 - Wrong again, Please read John 1: 19-21 if in doubt go get some guidance from someone who is sincere to accept what I write to you. John the Baptist is asked: 1) Are you The Messiah he (pbuh) answer no, 2) Are you Elias/Elijah a prophet who is to "return" as he disappeared he (pbuh) answers NO, he is asked a third question 3) ar eyou then "that prophet" he again answers NO. At the time of the question it referred to the coming of new prophets minus Elijah who is 2 return.
@Vasilis719 - No not at all, It refers 2 "awaited" prophets 2 unknown new prophets and one who had centuries earlier disappeared because of Israelite persecution of the prophet name Elias or Elijah. Jews felt he would return and therefore awaited for his return. So we have Elias his return anticipated, we had The Messiah whow as anticipated and That Prophet who was to be anticipated.,
@Vasilis719 - Elijah is Elias, John The Baptist (pbuh) said NO he is not Elijah although some Christians have said he was Elias/Elijah but did not know. But you feel he is still to return, i accept your point. John the baptist was asked are you the Messiah and he answered NO evidently we know why. he was asked about a Third prophet are you That prophet and he replied NO for a 3rd time. Who is this 3rd prophet.. it is not obviously easy for you to answer because you digress from the topic.
"Elias" is Greek for "Elijah". The first language of the Holy Christian church was "Greek". "Elias" and "Elijah" is the same thing, YOU MORON..LOLOLOL. In FACT, there is no writing of a "prophet" to succeed the Messiah or to pre-date Elijah. I have answered this in detail. Enough with your stalling tactics..LOLOL. Not ONLY is there NO tradition of such thing.."that prophet" could be be reffering to ANY prophet; it's not elaborated upon as anything more.
The SAME Christian tradition that "uses" the book of John, is being used by a muslims(you) to defend islam?????LOLOLOL. First, the SAME people that follow that book, disagree with you, and used that book as part of THEIR belief..and 2ndly..islam doens't follow that book AT ALL!!!!!LOLOLOL. What you offer is SO tied up in contradiction and wishfull assumption..it's trully comical..LOLOL. WHERE is there an "awaited" succession of a "prophet" after Christ??????.
Had mohammed been part of Christian theology..it would mean he served no purpose to them..LOLOL. THIS, along with the fact that Christianity awaited NO "messenger of God" to succeed Christ..and mohammed was never accepted as such; by Jews OR Christians..LOLOL. Gee, what a coincedence..LOLOL. Your wishfull analogy has done nothing but making you look like a fool..LOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - It is the religion that began with Abraham, and Israelites there is NO CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY it was an invention like rabbinic teachings the evil scribes pry you away from the word of God and practice of worshipping God.
Some facts about the koran..their is no evidence of the koran in the first Hajira after mohammed..suras were compiled on things like palm leaves and animal bones(not very reliable!!!!LOLOLOL)..345 of the first reciters of the koran were killed in battle..the suras were first spread orally, which would mean people had "devine memory" of mohammed's sayings in absolute accuracy..LOLOL. Some suras were eaten by goats. Aisha said they were under her and mohammed's bed.
@Vasilis719 - The transition of Al Qu'ran is far more reliable than the VERSIONS of the BIBLE all who have a source 200 years after the departure of Jesus by the decisions made in Nicea. Written by unknown authors often at odds. Yes The Bible has many stories and testimonies from jesus (pbuh) but it is nit "actual" revelation throughb third, 4th and even 5th person perspective. Qu'razn was compiled, in the 1st century, through trysted scribes and sahabah who had memorised it to a tee.
@vasilis- The Qu'ran is in the exact description as it was revealed the only different are the vowels and dots etc this is purely to allow "non arabic" muslims to pronounce. The dots and markings do not change the meaning or the arabic word but ENHANCE the pronounciation. Qu'ran means to recite, to proclaim and when spoken is a revelation therefore the markings, dots, call them vowels or whatever were introduced. The arabic script is exactly the same.
The vowels and dots can change the meaning from "fight" or "kill", "virgin" or "grapes", etc. The vowels and dots are used in modern Arabic; which shoots down your whole theory..LOLOL. It was introduced by the 3rd caliph, to give it what HE wanted to be the "definite" meaning. 345 of the first reciters were kiled in battle. suras were eaten by goats under mohammed and Aisha's bed..mohammed even took back certain verses himself. This is a purely unreliable source for today.
The koran has one witness, of an oral tradition first written on palm leaves and animla bones..LOLOL. There is not a SINGLE witness to mohammed's claims..even his own wife doubted him, and SHE suggested to him that maybe God was "talking " to him. There is no evidence of the koran in the first century after mohammed's death; and it wasn't until the 3rd caliph, that the koran was "givin" it's meaning; after having no vowles or diacritical dots.
@Vasilis719 - That is where you are wrong and you wish to deny the compilation of the Qu'ran. It was recorded and compiled int he prophets life time, put together in it's modern form in Abu Bakr Sideek (RA) life time, you forget the Hafeez memorisers of The Qu'ran... who woulod scrutinise any scribe before any verse was recorded. The Uthmani Qu'ran is the same Qu'ran recorded in the life time of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and put together and secured by Abu Bakr Sideek (RA)
Of the early reciters..345 were killed in battle. No one knows what OTHER things mohammed said; and the suras we have today, were mistranlated and misunderstood for centuries. The 3rd caliph had ALL other versions of the koran burned, after HE decided the meaning of the koran. Their had been many different versions. In fact, the koran can be read 7 ways, with 2 variants..hence 14 options. The koran even has God speaking in the 3rd person!!!!LOLOL..hence, it's not God's words.
@Vasilis719 - Remember the Qu'ran found in Sana had you bible bashers ina frenzy.. whatw as found it was the SAME ARABIC as the Uthmani Qu'ran but as it was a very early Qu'ran it did not have the dots and markings. Same Qu'ran, same meaning.if you got an Arab to read it he would read it in the same way as the modern Qu'ran with the dots and markings. Because the dots and markings are there to replicate the pronounciation for non arabs..;)
Far more "reliable"???LOLOL. Unlike Christianity; which has a tradition and witnesses..the koran has a "single witness" as the "words of God"; yet God is protrayed in the "3rd person", and much of what is in the koran is "repeated"..with minimal information, in comparison to the Bible. There is no evdidence of the koran, in the first century after mohammed's death; and suras were kept on sloppy thing like palm leaves and animal bones. They were intially spread "orally".
The first writings of the koran were written without vowels or diacritical dots..and in Arabic; which wasn't the language of the people being spoken about..yet somehow "Arabic" is the "language" to read the "words of God", about Judiac people..LOLOL. Therer were many "korans", and the one followed today, was "givin" it's meaning in the 8th-9th centuries, after the 3rd caliph; who had all other korans burned(enotes).
The Bible; on the other hand, has first Gosples from within 20 years of Jesus death, and follows the line of the Apostles. There is no theological or narrative variation, beyond simple summarizing, and inclusion of various events. islam has a set of unreliable suras, from a single witness, self serving "prophet". No comparison. We're supposed to take illterate arabs "memory" seriously; with no communal understanding of experience; but what was givin with no guidance????
@Vasilis719 - Wrong there is not a single scripture in the New Testmanet that is traced back tot he mouth of Jesus (pbuh) but it comes from eye witnesses - supposed eue witnesses written by 3rd and 4th people who were ALL unknown authors. ALL the unitarian gospels even written by people who were righteous disciples of Jesus (pbuh) even his brother were denied. 200 years later a Greek manuscript was given precedense... BUT WHERE IS THE AUTHENTIC SOURCE??? burnt, or locked away and hidden
@Vasilis719 - The hafeez are hard for you to understand evangelist because you do not have that kind of believer in Xtianity. These are in their millions across the world and know the Qu'ran word for word, penny for penny and this tradition began with prophet muhammad (SAW). God said he will prtect this message until etrenity and not let the evil doers and evil scribes to manipulate and chnage the word. God keeps his promise - ameen.
The koran that is recited "all over the world" has no evidence for what it claims. Furthermore, the tradition of islam was created out of the word; which we can see has failed. Had islam had the word of God, all would bow to it..yet that's not the case. That would mean God in imperfect; which he is not..and his words would be of the 3rd person!!!!!. The koran is not God's words; and the language ITSELF makes that MORE than clear; as does it's contradicitons.
Vasilis, In Gospel of John 1:19-21 - The israelites question our beloved prophet John The Baptist (pbuh) 3 questions: Trying to find out who he was, they asked him if he was 1) Elias - John (obuh) said No, 2) The Promised Messiah - John (pbuh) said NO he was then asked 3) Are you then, "That Prophet". Vasilis explain to me who That Prophet to come after The Messiah who was not Elias. Christians centuries later explain John (pbuh) was Elias eventhough he did not admit to this, who was The 3rd.
Vasilis, if you stopped conjecture (gibberish) and looked academically into your faith and its origins you will know that "only" 1 Prophet came after Jesus (pbuh) who was a good paracleyot, who glorified Jesus and his moher (pbut), he came from the princes of Kedar, he came from the wildernes of Bakah from the mountains of Paran, who was the unletterd prophet of Isaiah prophecy, the prophet unto Moses from among the brethren. He was who The Israelites awaited flocking to Yathrib for his arrival.
Muslims folow the faith of Abraham (pbuh), the uphold the covenant of the flesh & uphold ALL the laws given to Moses (pbuh). Muslims glorify the mighty messenger Jesus (pbuh) and his honourable mother (pbwt), Al Qu'ran encompasses all that was before & organises mankind to take heed to the cal of your creator. christians follow Pauline doctrine, breaking the covenant, breaking he laws of Moses (pbuh) & Vasilis look by merit, Islam is a practical religion who follow the wisdom of ALL PROPHET
read the word and understand the word, the word is God not your conjecture Vasilis. I responded to your naive almost child like messages. The man in this video is a fraud that is plain stakingly obvious. You can rejoice all you like, No religion today is uiform, practiced in the same way as the prophets. No religion reaches out to ALL, young, old, blac and white like Islam. You can never take that away from it Vasilis & if YOU WERE SINCERE you would read Qu'ran with a "good intention".
Vasilis & to all those who deny Islam, if you are humble and sincere and undoubtedly wish to find God. Then you owe it to you, your soul and for the benefit of doubt to understand Al Qu'ran. You begin with cleansing your mind and body, ablution of your mind and body - cleanse your body and mind and with GOD INTENTION ask The God of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Jesus for guidance. Read Al Qu'ran with a noble intention, you will be surprised this is MY CHALLENGE to you Vasilis. Good day
Don't give me your muslims garbage..LOLOL. You have a "religion" that begins and ends with the "word"; with no tradition to exaplin it. You have a one witness, self serving "prophet", who made special exceptions for himself with wives and concubines, 1/5 of spoils(looting) from war, had his adopted son divorce his wife so HE could have her, attacked caravans, and had no humility..unlike Christ..who even islam says was "sinless". Only the one of God is sinless. THE END.
@Vasilis719 - So at what point did you answer the question placed to you!! John 1:-19-21very intrigued to know who That Prophet was in your learned opinion? or was this wrong of me to read the bible like this because after all as you a supposed religous man called me..I am afteralla moron and unable to hold a opinion. Rather than blather on irrelevance why not answe a simple question.. it is quite easy really. listen you write drivvle and your responses are rude and weak. so long..
ARE YOU RETARDED???????LOLOL. You actually have the NERVE to come back for more humiliation??????. You can't even get your verses straight; then are given an undisputable analysis..and you STILL want to try and buy time???????LOLOL. You MUST be joking. "Prophet" was a term used for many Bibilical figures. If their was a tradition of a "prophet" to follow the Messiah; it would be in the SAME Bible you quote from; but isn't. What IS, is praise for Jesus. Your imagination is funny
@Vasilis719 - well either you are not learned or you are dyslexic.. Three questions were asked;1) are you The messiah 2) are you elias & 3) are you That prophet.
That prophet does not mean deceased prophets nor does it mean all prophets. ....
I am asking you from your bible that there was obviously a prophet awaited other than the return of Elias and The coming of The Masih..this third wasreferred to as That prophet. I am asking you for a logical explanation
As was expected..you came back doing EXACTLY what I had humiliated you bout before..and it took you a few days to even do THAT again..LOLOLOL. Where are my answers about islam???????. You can't even form simple logic; yet you think you can debate?????LOLOLOL. "Elijah" was to "return" after the Messiah, hence..a "dead" prophet..but enough about that SAME OLD FAILED muslim WISHFULL THINKING..LOLOL. WHAT ABOUT MYYYYY QUESTIONS?????. YOU muslim COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
@Vasilis719 - read John 1: 19-21 read it in the King james version in all the early VERSIONS of the bible... not the altered nonsense of recent revised VERSIONS because rather than answer and look into this ppl like you would rather mistranslate and misquote the text and change context. Read it it refers to a 3rd prophet, not Elijah/Elias, Not The messiah but a 3rd. I had to go to your channel to check YOUR AGE 37 your v. childish or child like should I say.
Suicide bombers are WEL verses in the koran, yet defy it. The koran says suicide is forbidden..yet TIME after TIME muslims defend it. This kind of imperfection isn't God; it's mohammed and the caliphs who had a simlilar, selfish agenda as mohammed. How do you compare the humility of Christ, to a "prophet" who gave himslef uncondtional privleges of wives, concubines(whores), and slave girls????LOLOL. How is THAT going to follow Christ??????. ABSURD "religion"..LOLOLOL.
I read the oroginal GREEK Bible, you moron..LOLOL. There is no "altered" Bible; but various translations of the GREEK Koinic Bible..of which I'm firmiliar with ALL of them. As a Greek; i can tell you without hesitation; your analogy is BEYOND comical..LOLOL.
While I have answered MILLIONS of times, the same ridiculous questions; and have done it even AFTER pointing out to you that while I'm doing THAT, you avoid MY questions..you come back with simple denial for islam, and MORE of the same questions directed towards me; as a way to buy time..LOLOLOL. You haven't been able to defend my challenges in the LEAST. On DIRECT quotes from your koran, teachings from mohammed, and history of islam and koran. END OF STORY..PERIOD.
@Vasilis719 - King James Version of YOUR BIBLE; JOhn 1: 19-21
1:19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
1:20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou "That prophet?" And he answered, No. ....wE KNOW WHO ELIAS, WE KNOW THE MESSIAH BUT WHO is "THAT PROPHET". to come after Christ..
@Vasilis719... Pleasee xplain and stop digressing the conversation.. simple question who was the 3rd Prophet they mention... this unknown mysterious prophet.. the same who is from the princes of Kedar, unlettered prophet of Isaiah, from the wilderness of Paran (Arabia).. A prophet unto Moses, commanded by God to speak in God's words only... i.e. the first revelation given to Muhammad (SAW) READ READ in the name of your Lord.. Muhammad (SAW) says I can not I am "unlettered" not learned...
LOLOL..dude, your beating a dead horse. Their is no Judaic or Christian tradition of a "messenger of God" to follow Christ. Secondly(as I've pointed it)..islam doesn't even follow the Bible..so to use the Bible as "defense" of islam, is like a vegetarian trying to sell a burger..LOLOL.
I must say..I've never met someone who is such a baboon brain..LOLOL. Who's "the prophet"??????. Anyone who "prophecizes". Please show me where the Bible speaks of "the prophet", as an awaited chronology after Christ??????LOLOL. What your suggesting, is that the Jews and Christians put "the prophet" in the Bible to address "moahmmed"(LOL); yet neither religion, or tradition states such things. "Prophet" is a general term. mohammed wasn't even in the line of Jacob and Issac.
LOLOL..your mixing your "Biblical" with your "koranic"..LOLOLOL. The Bible doens't state a "mystery prophet"; your imagination does..LOLOLOL. Nor does the verse say anything about an Arab(who wasn't even in the line of prophets; and was a decended of Hagar). Don't give me your "convenience" of imagination, and mixing Bible and koran as you wish to justify mohammed. Their is NO part of "prophet" in the Bible as a successor to the Meissah. PERIOD.
@Vasilis719 - was prophet Abraham (pbuh) not polygamous? did prophet David, Soloman and Moses not lead their nation to war. prophet jesus (pbuh) uhnlike the above was not in charge of a people, a tribe nor a leader of a nation as he WAS REJECTED in his life time by The israelites.
WHERE ARE MY ANSWRS????????. YOU ARE A WALKING HUMILIATION..LOLOLO. YOU HAVE A DIRECT CHALLNEGE, AND YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT AVOIDED AND RUN IN CIRCLES..LOLOLOL. YOUR A STRAIGHT UP WEAK COWARD. I SPEND MUCH TIME ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS, 100'S OF TIMES, AND NOT A SINGLE DEFENSE FOR islam ON YOUR PART..LOLOLOL. YOUR VERY PREDICTABLE..AND SHAMEFULLY WEAK..:((((((((
@Vasilis719 - what answers!!! 1% substance, 70% drivvle riddled in conjecture and 29% Abuse.. hardly answering. Your a small man, small in means, small in words, small in honour, small in knowledge and small in your understanding.
So small that the more your use caps and SHOUT and litter the page with your answers it bears no reflection on your insignificant self. Good day.
As we have seen with you..you avoid ALL challenges of your personal failures of articulate, accurate, historical theology..as well as ALL challenges of your koran and mohammed. How can a "religion" start and end with a set of words; from a single witness "prophet" of self serving military, material, and lustfull desires??????. Had the koran been the word of God; well verses suicide bombers wouldn't blow themselves up..which the koran forbids suicide.
What you have done with a challenge; is avoid it, and ask the same failed question 500 times..LOLOL. Answer MY challenges. mohammed said, "Ztheir is no compulsion in religion", yet history has shown him an aggressive military commander; who imposed "compulsion". He made special exceptions for himslef with wives and concubines(whores); said of the infidel.."I will strike off their heads; the very tips of their fingers". Also he said.."take not Jews and Christians as friends".
@Vasilis719 - I think you have shown your contempt and beligerance and limitations in understanding Islam even if it were in context or pretext BUT you are here deending Christianity ar eyou not and you have done so very poorly. Your abusive outbursts aside please answer me who was That Prophet in John 1 verse 19 to 21.
@ALANSARALHAQ - As someone who has already made judgement against Islam I asked you a question to test your academic reasoning and logic. What I got from you is evangelist bollo cks.. gibberish, digression, sidestepping. I have not abused Christians nor Christianity and sought a honourable dialogue you instead of asnwering questions posed to you, you post drivvle, gibberish and counter question me ignoring the question. Reflects on your logical reasoning and your spirituality..poor & devious
You have "sought" to "assume" a convenient answer; without knowledge of the tradition that the scripture serves. You have also misquoted, and avoided answering ANY challenge of islam. Your avoidance to buy time with whining about your failures, has achieved a pathetic defense of islam..LOLOLOL. How does an Arab polygamist, pedophile, military aggressor, with self serving ambitions fit in with "proper scripture"..LOLOL. Where are HIS witnesses????. Only himself.
@Vasilis719 you said polygamy???? yet Polygamy was practiced by Israelite prophets.. the greatest of whom was our beloved father Abrahm (pbuh). You mention paedophillia??? I disagree at i you are a christian and purporting to be a great defender of Christian so I give you the beenfit of the doubt. How Old was the wife of prophet Joseph (pbuh). 3rdly.. Was prophet David (pbuh) not a military commander? was prophet Soloman not a millitary commander, was prophet Moses not similar?
When it's convenient for you, you avoid "relgious" matter with "spelling"..LOLOL. Then you lose THAT battle, and come back with a defeated "initial" argument..LOLOL. Dude, the hole you have dug for islam is beyond laughable..:(((((.
@Vasilis719 - There is no hole, Alhamdulillah when one has his handfilled with wealth from the divine then he surely wishes to share with his fellow man. But my fellow man, is ignorant, almost child like refusing to be mature and discuss in a rational manner but instead all I have had from you conjecture and drivvle. I tis you alone who avoids answering you have not shown yourself to behanve nor come acros exemplary but someone very shallow who paints a very unhopeful picture of a Christian.
"Wealth"?LOLOL. Ignorance, horrible human rights, low education/literacy, philsophical/historical contradictions are not "valuable"..LOLOL. The "Christian" could turn the "muslim" world into a parking lot..the ONLY thing keeping you from being "dust" is Christian tolerance. Had the "Christian been like the muslim; you wouldn't even have the free speech to speak against "Christianity. islamic countries offer no "free speech", or conversion away from islam.
"Polygamy" in the history of Judaic culture isn't a "theological" matter..and in FACT, Jewsish people are not "polygmist"; not are Christians. David also had one of his soldiers abandoned, so he could have his wife..yet the ten commandments of Moses say.."thou shall not covet thy neighbours wife". The Jewish people are criticized MUCH in the Old Testamnet(Torah). David, Soloman, etc. didn't initiate to convert non-Jews to Judaism..unlike your mohammed and islam.
@Vasilis719 - Did prophet Abraham (pbuh) not have 4 wives? once he had amde the divine covenant. Please reflect on this... I think we were discussing millitary commanders. Unlike Saiyyidina Jesus (pbuh) Sayyidina David (pbuh) and Soloman as was Sayyidina Moses (pbuh) leaders of a NATION in "their" lifetime, they led an army a people a society and defended their kingdom. But the correlation I amde to allow your simnple mond to reflect seems to be awash with you.
Wow, you REALLY have a hard time following a debate..LOLOL. As was said..not ONLY did he have multiple wives; so did David..yet these prophets never were "commanded" by God, or spoke of "Godly" polygamy..LOLOL. AS we see in the law of Moses.."thou shall not commit adultry". When God choose to give the "law", it stated to not be "polygamist". "polygamy" is by nature adultrous. You cannot be faithful and have multiple partners.
As was said..Jesus had no army; and his "kingdom" was of the spirit, and of belief in his sentiment. Christians were wiling martyrs to die unarmed for their belief in Christ. David(unlike mohammed) "defended" his people; yet didn't "attack" other kingdoms to convert non-Jews to Judaism. Sound firmiliar???. Your mohammed said.."I will make all people submit to Allah and tkae me as his messnger". What's also ironic, is he said.."their is no compulsion in religion". Your retarded.
Joseph didn't conceive Jesus..whom Mary had as a young women..while mohammed married both a 9 year old; when he was in his 50's..and his adopted son's wife..who he made divorce, so he could have her. 1/5 of the spoils(loot) of war were reserved for mohammed and "Allah"(what would God do with "spoils"????LOLOLOL). mohammed gave himself special privleges in numbers of wives, concubines, and slave girls. Unlike the "prophets", or mohammed, Jesus was "sinless".
@Vasilis719 - I asked you how old was prophet Jospeh (pbuh) wife?? Again if your talking about age..whatw as the age of prophet Abraham (pbuh) when he took wifes after Sarah. I have shown you polygamy existed before Islam and is a semitic tradition, Israelite tradition and if lawful is sanctioned before God. NO one admonished Abraham (pbuh) for having more than one wife... yet he was closer to God than you Vasilis..you sadly ar eno where near alas.
Are you trully slow in the mind??????. Joseph didn't sleep with Mary; hence(as islam believes) Jesus was born of a virgin. Don't you know your OWN religion?????. AS has been explained A THOUSAND times to you..the Jewish people are shown to be faulted; and "history of semites" and "theology" are two different things. Had what you said been relevant; Jews would be pedophilic polygamists..LOLOLOL. Yet no Jewish or Christian tradition as "theology" practices such things. You idiot.
As we have seen..you have misquoted chapters, you have misquoted verses(John 1:19-34 says NOTHING of an Arab prophet to follow Christ), and have taken the same verse that asks about a dead prophet(Elijah), as "naturally" meaning mohammed..LOLOL. The Bible spekas of a prophet in the line of Moses to come..not an Arab cavedweller..LOLOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - I am asking you who "that" prophet is..so atleast we are getting closer you NOW after a painful number of messages i.e. drivvle from "you" part you now admit in John 1: 19 - 21 it refers to a 3rd prophet who was "awaited"..the one referred to as That Prophet. Please explain who this prophet is...
mohammed also said.."surely among your wives their is a traitor". The koran/hadith also speaks of homosexual rewards for muslims fighters. "Youths of perpetual freshness". Even Aisha said of mohammed.."it seems the Lord hastens to fullfill your desires". No one saw the angel Gabriel; even as mohammed said he was speaking to him. mohammed thought the words of "God" meant he was going crazy!!!!. How could the warm, loving words of God make you think "insanity"?????. END OF STORY.
@Vasilis719 - So you still have digressed from my original question of who That prophet is a third named prophet other than Elias who disappeared because of zealot Israelites and later Christian apologetics define John to be Elias even though his admission was NO. We know he was not the Messiah but we have yet to understand who That Prophet was?.. rather than digressing answer the question.. John chapter One verse 19 to 21...
LOLOLOL..just what I expected..you answer a challenge(both new and previously stated), with avoidance..and clinging to previous failures. Don't speak for Christians, you idiot. John is recognized as the Holy witness to Christ. All prophets are from the line of Jacob and Issac..while mohammed is from the line of Ishmael..LOLOL. How convenient of you to assume "mohammed"; an Arab; is a "prophet" of Judiasm and Christianity..LOLOL.
@Vasilis719 - In the bible the israelites ask my beloved prophet John (pbuh) 3 distinct questions; 1) Are you The Messiah, 2) Are you Elias and thirdly which you continue not to answer and digress from is are you That prophet.. who is this 3rd prophet... please explain.
Ahh..wishfull thinking is a weak defense, little muslims..LOLOL. I'm quite firmiliar with the koran and islam..and in fact, islam=; who's own "prophet" said, "their is no compulsion in religion", went ahead and built the most "compulsive" miltiary religion ever seen. He also contradicted himself and said.."If a believer turns his back on islam, kill him wherever you find him". islam is a human rights nightmare. No religion has fed, clothed, more people than Christianity.
Christianity is the line of Abraham after the fullfillment of the Messiah. Paul was a radical Jew, and strict follower of the law. Orhtodox Christianity follows the line of Paul..and hence, celebrate Easter after Passover, and embrace the Old Testament. moahammed was a "Hagarene"; and not a "prophet" of anything. Hence, the koran is false in ideology, lineage, and historical significance of theology or relevance. All's islam did was serve moahmmed, and his military desire
As we have seen from before..your muslim education has failed you..LOLOL. Their is no tradition of a "prophet" after Christ; and the very idea is from a man(mohammed) who is a single witness to himself. By islam's OWN standards; moahmmed is not even in the lineage of prophets, from Jacob and Issac..but he's from the line of ishmael, and from the bastard son of Hagar. muslims were first called "hagarenes". Go study reality, little muslims..LOLOL.
As was made clear previously..the Pharisees didn't give a "chronology" of a "prophet" to follow the Christ..and there is no Jewish tradition of a "last prophet messenger of God". John only spoke of Jesus..and said nothing of a "prophet" to follow him. Your muslims assumptions are totally 1st grade wishfull thinking..LOLOL. Laslty..as a muslims; you don't even believe in Biblical scripture; yet you pathetically tried to use the Bible to defend islam!!!!..LOLOLOL.
Who is most favoured by Allah? He from the greatest good cometh to his creatures. -Sayings of Muhammad p. 89 Muhammad said to good and that Allah favors them most.
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«ماذا تُرِيْدُ مِنّا يا يَسُوعُ النّاصِرِيُّ؟ هَلْ جِئْتَ لِكَيْ تُهلِكَنا؟ أنا أعرِفُ مَنْ تَكُونُ، أنتَ قُدُّوسُ اللهِ.» فَوَبَّخَهُ يَسُوعُ وَقالَ لَهُ: «اخرَسْ وَاخرُجْ مِنْهُ! What do you want of us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, you are the Holy One of God. »Jesus rebuked him and said:« Shut up and get out of it! -Mark 1:24-25 (Arabic to English translation). It uses the word Allah to mean God. This verse proves Jesus is not God.
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islamictvdotcom 1 week ago
Jesus founded the Catholic Church. The proof. Read the words and beliefs of the Church Fathers who were taught by the Apostles. They believed in the Eucharist and many other catholic beliefs.
22grena 1 week ago
nothing in quran says jesus is the son of god . if you still believe that then who is the mother?and how you christians make me lmao
lemaitrejack 1 month ago
@lemaitrejack Is there anything that Mohammed did that you disagree with?
22grena 1 week ago
You cant judge him as Fake, God who jnows the heart of a man is his judge. Whatever u may call it. This man is out to Pour out his heart. He'is found Peace and Love in Jesus. All that the Quran wrote about Jesus is what u should call "FAKE" seek Christ faithfully, u will find him. Jesus is lord.
ejileomex 1 month ago
this man makes me laugh. fake!!! I know some muslims leave islam but this man is fake
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lemaitrejack 1 month ago
@islamictvdotcom Strange that Muslims say this to every video.
22grena 1 week ago
Internet is So Powerful, How can Muslim and Islam Countries blinded upon the Truth today. From NDE testimony and visiting Heaven and Hell. It is not a Joke, We are not Ignorant and keep argue with some religious matter. Only him is the Way.
GOD IS LOVE! ticket to Heaven!
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Jesus show on Islam and NDE this year increasing. Yes, they see heaven. If I tell you the truth, read Dante Alighieri's 'Dante Divine Comedy' about the fate of Muhammad. It shows that Modern NDE and thousand of Patient see afterlife even Muhammad! Jesus, tell the People to Love, a highest kind of Love (Unconditional Love). Did Jesus promise Us a Heaven and Only Love can save Us.
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The Rev Kirsten Slettenaar, Exodus Church's regular priest, also rejects the idea - widely considered central to Christianity - that Jesus was divine as well as human.
"I think 'Son of God' is a kind of title," she says. "I don't think he was a god or a half god. I think he was a man, but he was a special man because he was very good in living from out of love, from out of the spirit of God he found inside himself."
sadliali 6 months ago
If the quarn mentioned Jesus then u know he existed and he is the son of God the messiah! but Muslims don't realize that yet
peopleofthesuns 1 year ago 5
@peopleofthesuns Qur'an tells us the Jesus (pbuh) is a messenger of God. salam
islamictvdotcom 1 month ago
@islamictvdotcom Who is the greater in your mind: Jesus or Mohammed?
22grena 1 week ago
@22grena They were both righteous people. the answer to you question is neither. They were bot good and kind loving prophets of God. To me Allah (God) is greater than both of them and He is greater than anything or anyone. Allah is not only used by Muslims. look in an arabic bible translation. You get Allah الله The word "Allah" is used by arabic speaking Jews & Christians.
islamictvdotcom 1 week ago
@islamictvdotcom So in your mind Jesus and Mohammed are equal
22grena 1 week ago
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@22grena «ماذا تُرِيْدُ مِنّا يا يَسُوعُ النّاصِرِيُّ؟ هَلْ جِئْتَ لِكَيْ تُهلِكَنا؟ أنا أعرِفُ مَنْ تَكُونُ، أنتَ قُدُّوسُ اللهِ.» فَوَبَّخَهُ يَسُوعُ وَقالَ لَهُ: «اخرَسْ وَاخرُجْ مِنْهُ! What do you want of us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, you are the Holy One of God. »Jesus rebuked him and said:« Shut up and get out of it! -Mark 1:24-25 (Arabic to English translation). It uses the word Allah to mean God. It is evidence that Jesus (a.s) is not God.
islamictvdotcom 1 week ago
@islamictvdotcom yes. they were both servants of God and messengers. nothing more.
islamictvdotcom 1 week ago
@peopleofthesuns Jesus IS the messiah in islam but he is not the son of god
consolemaster001 3 weeks ago
Who is the voice inside me? "I am Jesus!" I laughed for 2 minutes. I would be like "GTFO!!!"
FarrisB927 1 year ago
If Jesus is love, then why are millions of people suffering. God condones violence. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it untrue. Prove me wrong.
FarrisB927 1 year ago 2
@FarrisB927 read the bible.why do ppl keep asking this same question??
MrGanjalove420 4 months ago
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yawars1 4 months ago
@FarrisB927 You can only one answer that. Miracles came from mysteriously. Seek jesus in your Heart, he will show you the way! People have a heart of Stone, they denied him whatever miracles he made. People suffering because they cannot found Jesus on their heart. this is the absence of Holy Spirit or Spiritual Guidance upon their life!
yawars1 4 months ago
i think you will find that jesus was mentioned in the quran if you ha d actually read it one more point you follow the bible but this is not the same book sent to jesus from god as the original version no longer exists thats why there are so many different versions why arent they the same because they ave been changed is the quran any different than the day it was revealed no its the same as when it was first revealed in arabic GOD CHALLENED HUMAN BEGINS IN THE QURAN TO CHANGE IT IF THEY CAN
spacer567 1 year ago
As you, we Know Jesuss but aa a prophet not a God
grawish2015 1 year ago
BeCAB - Are you teaching me Arabic? The vowels were introduced for "Non - Arabic" speakers to enhance the pronounciation to make it replicate the spoken Arabic so the revelation is replicated and perfecyted by non Arabic Speaking people. The Arabic meaning does not chnage with the vowels or markings - it is the same Arabic word and meaning. You are clutching on half baked idiocy.. I for one am bored..explaining to you Bible Bashers.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@KHANtheGreatWarrior The assertion that the so-called Uthmannic redaction can be considered the 'original' quran is precisely the myth that BesABC was talking about. Why don't you open up your eyes to the utter vacuity of the quran? It's a rubbishy text, irrespective of the degree of corruption or authenticity of the text.
IpsaPaphum 1 year ago 2
Vasilis719: Do you even read the bible and try to "interpret" it through some kind of a theologian scholar or priest..or you make up things as you go along. John 1: 19-21 refers to future prophets and not dead prophets. You are the first Christian to refer to the 3 questions trying to understand John the Baptists identity as referring to dead prophets?? when it clearly referred to future prophets.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..10
No scholar can "speculate" on "intent" against Christianity; they can only follow chronology. As we have seen; "intent" would have to be accepted as Saint Paul and emperor Constantine having no reason other than "faith" to convert. God trully works in mysterious ways. A Christian hating Jew, and emperor of the same Roman empire that crucified Christ. "
Vasilis719 1 year ago 3
@Vasilis719 - what is the point of this post??? it is again drivvle.. Constantine incorporated Roman paganism into the israelite religion. The Cross, Easter, celebration of the birth of a Roman mythological God. The central church REMAINED tot his day THE ROMAN CATHOLIC Church. Catholic meaning "universal" .this was pagan in origin and always ENFORCED by the romans on invaded countries/people. Constantine kept pagan belief and slaughtered the UNITARIAN true israelites,
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@vasilis: Constantine absorbed the "idea" of Christ specifically the emphasis on virgin birth and crucificition into their already EXISTING pagan mythology..look up horus. Thus a new religion based around Christ was created with pagan roots, UNITARIAN true Christians who were ISRAELITES were slaughtered, unitarian gospels burnt and NEW VERSIONS by UNKNOWN authors were introduced..rst is history and I have to listen to your drivvle today ;)
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..13
That would mean, that the SAME virigin birth that you criticize as "pagan", is the SAME virigin birth that islam believes in!!!!!LOL. Saint Paul was Jewish, and the bases of what YOU criticized before..LOLOL. So which is IS IT????LOL. A Jew isn't "Jewish" enough, then a Roman isn't "Jewish" enough, yet your mohammed didn't follow the "Judiac" israelite belief ANYWAY!!!!!LOL. Your so tied up in your frustartion, your running in circles..LOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I am telling you how Pagan Rome introduced the idea of Trinity and Virgin borth of Horus and other such deities please look into this at your leisure and found similarity in the birth of the messenger of God - Jesus (pbuh) son of MAry (pbuh) the most Honurable. Hence the emphasis on Christian faith on virgin birth and crucifiction and little on ISRAELITE rtradition, laws, religion and distance from the covenant made with Abraham. why? because these ideas sit well with paganism.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I am not calliong the virgin birth pagan, I am calling the Christian description of the virgin birth absorbs many pagan existing beliefs that were already held in high esteem by the Romans and Greek. Hence understanding the Israelite religion from the concept of Jesus (pbuh) or a misguided concept of Jesus (pbuh) seemed reasonable for The declinign Roman Empire. Have you been to THE VATICAN?? celebrates Roman History, religion, semi nude paintings & idols not ISRAELITE RELIGION.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..10
Whats the point of a Roman emperor converting to a religion that took away his supreme authority, and accepted the belief of a people he "ruled", and who HE had to answer to as equals??LOL. Is that a SERIOUS ????!!!!LOL. Also..Constantine wasn't Catholic!!!!LOLOL. "Catholic" is a Greek word, and I"M Greek. It's actually 2 words; meaning "everyone" and "everything". The Cross is the symbol of Roman torture, of which Christ died upon..not something Christian Rome was proud of.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Christianity was created to absirb the people of Damascus, modern day Jordan and Palestine. The Roman empire was "crumbling away"..iuf the Israelites were not passified and controlled then the decline of The Roman Empire would have begun alot earlier. Constantine therefore accepted Christ and in doing so also destroyed UNITARIANS i.e. Israelites, destroyed the Aramaic and Hebrew real Injeel and promoted a new thesis in Greek which absorbed Pagan beleifs.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..2
THIS IS THE LAST WORDS I WILL SAY ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. YOUR DEBT TO THIS DEBATE, IS OVERVFLOWING BEYOND REPAIR...LOLOL. FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT(JEWISH TORAH)..ISAIAH 9:6="FOR UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN, UNTO US A SON IS GIVIN; AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL BE UPON HIS SHOULDERS; AND HIS NAME WILL BE CALLED WONDERFUL, COUNCELLOR, THEY MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE".
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - The Isaiah prophecy refers to an Israelite messenger of God not the ROMAN interpretation known today as Christianity.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..3
PSALM 110:1(OLD TESTAMNET, JEWISH TORAH).."THE LORD SAID UNTO MY LORD, SIT THOU AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE THINE ENEMIES THY FOOTSTOOL". HEBREWS 1:2-3(SAME THING).."HATH IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN UNTO US BY HIS SON, WHOM HE HATH APPOINTED HEIR OF ALL THINGS, BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLDS; WHO BRING THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS GLORY, AND THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON, AND UPHOLDING ALL THINGS BY THE WORD OF HIS POWER..continued..
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Wron their is no distinction between the religion of Islam and the civenant made with Abraham (pbuh) and the relgiion practiced by the prophets. We uphold the covenant made with Abraham (pbuh), we uphold the laws passed onto Moses not the man amde rabbinic teachings (evil scribes). We glorify the virgin birth of Jesus (pbuh) who was sent but only to the House of Israel. We glorify Jesus The prophet and messenger like NO OTHER COMMUNITY on this planet.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..11
No suprise that ALL your responses are STILL in avoidance of the DIRECT challenges on islam..LOLOL. Easter is dated from the early Jewish Christians; and the Orthodox tradition follows Passover before it celebrates Easter..hence, following the Judiac tradition of Passover, and recreating what happened in the Bible. No one knows Jesus exact birth; and December 25th was picked SPECIFICALLY to replace a pagan holiday..which would be sacrilege to pagan Rome.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Wrong I ask you to google the origins of Christmas it is linked to Pagan believes and festivities..it is widely known that the birth of Jesus (pbuh) was in Middle of the year, May/June or July. Horus was born in december, The 25th was a great Roman festivity has nothing to dow ith passover speak to a Jew. Easter comes from the Persian Goddess Ishtar, the Persians celbreated this by giving each other Ishtar eggs. Jews kept impeccable records of births and deaths -
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..12
CONSTANINE WASN'T EVEN CATHOLIC..LOLOL. He was ruler of the Holy Orthodox church; which was the first Christian church; and based on the teachings of the Apostles. Your version of history is full of wishfull thinking, and pure ignorance of facts..LOLOLOL. "Orhtodox" means the "correct dogma". On the OTHER hand, we have the symbol of the "scimitar" in islam(a sword), which is EXACLTY the symbol of "slaughter". How ironic..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Catholic means everyone i.e. "universal" meant the Roman UNIVERSAL for everyone Church. It did not begin with Christianity BUT existed from the dawn of The Roman era.. it was their universal Pagan Church absorbing religions and conquered people across the empire into a Roman UNIVERSAL Church and they did the same to The Israelites. In Islam the only symbol is LA ILAHA ILALLAH MUHAMAMDUR RASOOL ALLAH There is but only One GOd an Muhammad is his messenger.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..4
..continued..'WHEN HE HAD BY HIMSELF PURGED OUR SINS, SAT DOWN ON THE RIGHT HAND OF THE MAJESTY ON HIGH". JEREMIAH 23:5-6(OLD TESTAMNET, JEWISH TORAH).."BEHOLD, THE DAYS COME, SAITH THE LORD, THAT I WILL RAISE UNTO DAVID A RIGHTEOUS BRANCH; AND A KING SHALL REIGN AND PROSPER, AND SHALL EXECUTE JUDGMENT AND JUSTICE ON EARTH. IN HIS DAYS, JUDAH SHALL BE SAVED, AND ISRAEL SHALL DWELL SAFETLY; AND HIS NAME WHEREBY HE SHALL BE CALLED; THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS".
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..5
ALL THE WORDS I HAVE PRESENTED, AREGIVIN FROM THE SAME JEWSIH TORAH THAT BOTH JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FOLLOW; AND THE SAME BIBLE YOUR TRYING TO USE TO JUSTIFY mohammed..LOLOLOL. THE END.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Qu'ran is exactly the same Qu'ran known as Uthmani Qu'ran same script which was mass produced by khalifah Uthman ibne Afwqaan - shaheed (RA). This Qu'ran was compiled and put together in the life time of prophet Muhammad and put togehter and safe by Khalifah Abu Bakar Sideeq (RA). The markings do not chnage the arabic word but enhance pronounciation for NON ARABIC readers so they can replicate the arabic pronounciation. Qu'ran means read, to proclaim..we must read it aloud.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..14
As we have senn..your wishfull parallels fail on bases of "intent" and bases of your OWN "theology" as well..LOL. There were MANY korans(one of which is said to have been of mohammed's secretary), and the "one" you have today is the one your 3rd calpih came up with. The koran WAS NOT compiled in mohammed's lifetime..it was a series of random writings on sloppy things like palm leaves and animal bones. There is no evidence of the koran in the 1st century after moahmmed's death.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 -Part 1: Uthmani Qu'ran
your research is wrong and no doubt comes from anti Islamic false spreading sites. The history of Al Qu'ran Al Majeed is well written and recorded, Uthmani Qu'ran was the same Qu'ran compiled and recorded in the lifetime of Muhammad (SAW) stored and prottected by Abu Bakr Sideek... when the Islamic dominions grew and people spread the words to non arabs and ppl who had not seen the prophet (pbuh) or Sahabah and began writing their own "translations".
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@vasilis719: Uthmani Qu'ran Part 2: In islam we do not accept anything to be revelation unless it comes from the source thus the poor translations were required to be destroyed. As these translations did not replicate the original Qu'ran and were largely very poor and inaccurate they were totally corrupt and were therefore abbrogations and falsehood.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@vasilis719: Uthmani Qu'ran Part 3:
Uthman (RA) sent Sahabah to each dominion to teach the real Qu'ran, they found many variations of Qu'ran. Uthman (RA) then mass produced the Qu'ran kept safe by Abu Bak Sideeq now in his (pbwh) posession. Hence why it was called Uthmani Qu'ran, this was sent to everyone requiring an authentic qu'ran. ALL coipies were collected and DESTROYED.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719: The markings, dots and vowels as you call them were introduced many years later I agree but they bear no weight on "changing" the meaning of the arabic text. They ENHANCE the pronounciation so non arabs could read Qu'ranic arabic in the way it was supposed to be read. Qu'ran means to recite, to proclaim.. one must read it poetically aloud and only then is it a revelation therefore the pronounciation, spoken Arabic had to be correct..v.important for non arabs especially.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..8
THIS IS THE WEAKEST ARGUMENT IN DEFENSE OF islam THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN..LOLOLOL. 'ENHANCE' CAN CHANGE A WORD FROM "FIGHT" TO "KILL", OR "VIRGINS" TO "GRAPES", DEPENDING ON WHERE THE DOTS FIT. NEVER THE LESS.THERE ISN'T A SHRED OF PROOF, OR A SINGLE WITNESS FOR mohammed OR the koran. IT'S A SELF SERVING MANIPULATION OF A PLUNDERER. I HAVE GIVIN YOU DIRECT QUOTES FROM YOUR koran THAT YOU HAVE AVOIDED AT ALLLL COSTS..LOLOL. CAN'T DISPUTED; IT'S FROM YOUR mohammed..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Arabic is not like English, The word is defiend by the root word which is NOT ALTERED by having dots and vowels. The vowels are there to make non arabs recite Qu'ranic arabic in the way it should be recited. You have given me drivvle, like the drivvle to support trinity. I think we shall leave it a this..I often walk away with a banging headache after speaking to a bible basher... for the sake of my sanity..I bid you good day. You surely are a troubled lamb.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..9
ARABIC ISN'T EVEN THE LANGUAGE OF THE PEOPLE SPOKEN ABOUT..LOLOL. SOMEHOW "ARABIC" WAS ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LANGUAGE OF "GOD", AT THE CONVENIENCE OF mohammed..LOLOLOL. SPECIAL PRIVLEGES FOR WIVES, WHORES, AND PLUNDER; ALLLLL FOR YOUR "PROPHET"..LOLOL. HE TELLS YOU TO NOT TAKE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS FRIENDS, AND THAT HE WILL "STRIKE OF THEIR HEADS; THE VERY TIPS OF THEIR FINGERS". AMONG A MOUNTAIN OF OTHER SICKENING THOUGHT OF A SUPPOSED "PROPHET", AND HIS SUPPOSEDE "WORDS"..LOL
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - So where is YOUR AUTHENTIC Hebrew Injeel??? - where is it.. The romans had it either locked away or burnt and YOUR OLDEST Scripture is in the GREEK... the blue print for the modern Bible is GREEK. The OT is alot more violent, You take Qu'ran out of context a shallow exercise and youa r enot the first bible basher. The smite neck refers to the pagans and jews WHO BROKE a treaty with muslims and conspired to ANNIHILATE each muslim man, woman and child..
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..THE FINAL END..
A PLUNDERER, BUTCHER, LUSTFULL, SELF SERVING HYPOCRIT HAS NO PLACE AS A "MESSENGER OF GOD". THE END. PERIOD. YOU HAVE BURIED YOURSELF IN SUCH A DEEP HOLE; IT'S JUST PITIFUL TO THROW ANY MORE DIRT ON YOU..LOLOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Istaghfar I pity your soul, your grave is yours even if you do not believe as I do and feel that you follow in the footsteps of Al Masih (The Messiah) your words, actions are of a very spiteful, vindictive man who has no fear of God in his heart let alone love. Your words are your actions & your actions are of a vindictive zealot, out of context, aggressive and non aspiring let alone inspiring.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I agree The FINAL END.. :) S. P. Scott writes in, History of the Moorish Empire in Europe, p. 126:
If the object of religion be the inculcation of morals, the diminution of evil, the promotion of human happiness, the expansion of the human intellect, if the performance of good works will avail in the great day when mankind shall be summoned to its final reckoning it is neither irreverent nor unreasonable to admit that Muhammad was indeed an Apostle of God.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Lamartine a French historian, writes in his book, History of Turkey, p. 276:
Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may ask, is there any man greater than he?
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 Lamartine contd “If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and outstanding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, and empires only. They founded, if any at all, no more than material power which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man merged not only armies, legislation, empires, peoples and dynasties but millions of men in one third of the inhabited world...
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Lamartine concludes..and more than that, moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls on the basis of a Book, every letter of which has become law. He created a spiritual nationality of every tongue and of every race.” (Historie de la Turqu,, Vol. 2, page 76-77)
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I will hapily provide 100's of other accounts of Historians who actually bothered to study Islam and The Son of Abraham (pbuh) Muhammad SAW. He reverted Arabia tot he Religion of their forefather, chnaged Arab society for the better, created a unfied nation, a society governed by the principles of God Almighty his was a Godly Nation and the wisdom that flowed and love and equality spread to every corner of the world and continues to do so without a sword.. open ure eyes
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ "The markings, dots and vowels as you call them were introduced many years later I agree but they bear no weight on "changing" the meaning of the arabic text. They ENHANCE the pronounciation" 'Enhancing' the pronunciation? Maybe you mean clarify or disambiguate. The Arabic script that the Qur'an was originally written in did not only not have the vowel marks but several consonants were undistinguishable. An unchanged original Qur'an is a Muhammadan myth.
BesACB 1 year ago 6
@BesACB The thing you do not know about the arabian culture before islam is that it was a memorizing culture... read my dear, the only nation that had a special bazaar to sell arabic literature (before islam) and make very serious championships between arabic poets is the arabic nation. the winner was to have his poem hanged high on the Ka'aba..! people usually memorized poems of 100 verses and more from the first or second time, so what do you think of those reciting it continuously in prayers?
ibnalbeetar1 1 year ago
@ibnalbeetar1 A 'memorizing culture'! All oral traditions depend on memorization and poetry competitions are by no means unique to Arab culture. Think of the Welsh eistedfodd and the poetry and drama competitions of the ancient Greeks. You fail to make your point.
BesACB 1 year ago
@BesACB Moreover, you, in this era, are saying that the Qur'an is changed or manipulated.. i say you're saying it with no much knowledge about it or its meanings, or even without studying for the history of attacking the Qur'an.. the older nations did not even dare to say that, because they knew the ways and the tools that were created by muslims to keep this book out of edition. if you want to attack us, ask first, then say whatever you want, but attacking with no knowledg is null and illogical
ibnalbeetar1 1 year ago
@BesACB i find your video is fake you became christian because you got a free bible jesus is mentioned in the quran so if it was him you were looking for you didnt lokk hard enough
spacer567 1 year ago
@spacer567 One: it's not my video, two: I'm definitely not a Christian, three: your argument is illogical (if Jesus could be found in a 6th century book, he can a fortiori be found in the 2nd century New Testament, where he is made out to be the Son of God, in which capacity he can NOT be found in the Qur'an).
BesACB 1 year ago
@BesACB The reason why the vowel marks were added was because people of other countries were reciting it WRONG, so, it IS the same scripture, just that people recited it wrong.
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halihalo303 10 months ago
@halihalo303 not interested in ur bull. burn in hell if u dont want to accept the truth
0nly1God1 10 months ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..6
MY SOURCES ABOUT islam, ARE 70% FROM muslims SOURCES..LOLOLOL. THE CHRONOLOGY, AND FACTS ABOUT WHAT I'VE PRESENTED WEREN'T GIVIN TO YOU AS "SPECUALTION"; THY'RE CONCRETE INFORMATION ON THE HISTORY OF islam AND the koran. PERIOD. YOUR QUOTE DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DEFEND YOUR VWISHFULL THINKING, IN THE LEAST. YOUR koran IS A mohammedan INVENTION. THE END.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Elias is Elijah I agree... but 3 questions were asked, are you Elias / Elijah are you the Messiah or are you "That Prophet"- the unlettered prophet in Isaiah prophecy, from the princes of Kedar. Kedar was the son of Ishmael (pbuh), from the mountains of Paran (Arabia) from thevalley of Bakkah (Makkah). ... Who was this "other" Prophet.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..1
John 1:19-END=Not a a SINGLE word about an "unlettered" prophet" or "princes of kedar"..LOLOL. Are you simply "hoping" to make "falsehood" a "reality"????LOLOL. What IS said, is..(John 1:34)" And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God". Also; Jesus said(John 8:58).."I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am". YOU'RE A COWARD WHO WILL GET UP TO GET KICKED DOWN, OVER AND OVER AGAIN..LOLOL. YOUR LUCKY I'M EVEN ANSWERING ANYTHING MORE, AFTER ALLLL YOUR COWARDLY AVOIDANCE
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - No I am no coward, I am not used to discussing with those who promote themselves as a defender of his faith but with limited understanding. So your telling me there is no prophecy in the Old Testament of a "unletterd" prophet. I would look into "on your" on offcourse on people like Eusebius whow as a Trinitarian an dhow he introduced the trinitartian creed into the Bible.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..9
Wow..this too easy..LOLOL. "Book of Malachi".."Elias"(Hellenized version "Elijah") "returns before the coming of the great and terrible day of the Lord". Hw does one that hasn't existed yet "RETURN"??????LOLOLOL. Your so tied up in your frustration, your throwing ANYTHING out in blind hope of keeping yourself from drowning..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Elijah is the same as Elias... in John 1: 19-21 JOhn the Baptist is asked about ELias/Elijah one and the same - who Israelites felt will return. 2ndly we know who The Messiah was but the third is unaccounted for i.e. That Prophet. Now rather than be derogatory - calm down and show me the errors of my way explain who this 3rd prophet was. If you do not know say so do not dig further into the grave of conjecture you aer digging.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..8
No kidding..LOLOL. As was said.."Elias" is Greek from "Elijah". The narrative in the Bible, is that "Elijah" will return before the great and terrible day of the Lord. You, on the other hand, didn't understand this concept, and NOW want to sell it as YOUR OWN!!!!LOLOL. Their is NO chronology in the narrative of John; of a "prophet" to follow the Messiah, or to pre-date "Elijah". It's a general term; which pre-dates mohammed by 600 years!!!!LOLOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - In John 1: 19-21 John the Baptist is asked about 3 disnctive personalities to see if he is any of them; 1) Messiah to which he (pbuh) answered NO. 2) Elias / Elijah to which he replies No ...AND THREE Are you That Prophet..meaning a third prophet asked as a 3rd question and he replies for The Third time NO.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..9
Also; it would mean the story in John, means they were speaking about a "prophet" BEFORE the Messiah; and they were inticipating "corruption" of "scripture", even before they had known the Messiah..LOLOLOL. This..while serving the Christian sentiment; which follows the Jewish Torah as Old Testament!!!!!LOLOLOL. That would mean..the same people who you are trying to sell as waiting for moahammed, didn't wait for him, OR accept him..so what then would be the point?!!LOL. END..LOL
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Wrong again, Please read John 1: 19-21 if in doubt go get some guidance from someone who is sincere to accept what I write to you. John the Baptist is asked: 1) Are you The Messiah he (pbuh) answer no, 2) Are you Elias/Elijah a prophet who is to "return" as he disappeared he (pbuh) answers NO, he is asked a third question 3) ar eyou then "that prophet" he again answers NO. At the time of the question it referred to the coming of new prophets minus Elijah who is 2 return.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - No not at all, It refers 2 "awaited" prophets 2 unknown new prophets and one who had centuries earlier disappeared because of Israelite persecution of the prophet name Elias or Elijah. Jews felt he would return and therefore awaited for his return. So we have Elias his return anticipated, we had The Messiah whow as anticipated and That Prophet who was to be anticipated.,
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Elijah is Elias, John The Baptist (pbuh) said NO he is not Elijah although some Christians have said he was Elias/Elijah but did not know. But you feel he is still to return, i accept your point. John the baptist was asked are you the Messiah and he answered NO evidently we know why. he was asked about a Third prophet are you That prophet and he replied NO for a 3rd time. Who is this 3rd prophet.. it is not obviously easy for you to answer because you digress from the topic.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..15
"Elias" is Greek for "Elijah". The first language of the Holy Christian church was "Greek". "Elias" and "Elijah" is the same thing, YOU MORON..LOLOLOL. In FACT, there is no writing of a "prophet" to succeed the Messiah or to pre-date Elijah. I have answered this in detail. Enough with your stalling tactics..LOLOL. Not ONLY is there NO tradition of such thing.."that prophet" could be be reffering to ANY prophet; it's not elaborated upon as anything more.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..16
The SAME Christian tradition that "uses" the book of John, is being used by a muslims(you) to defend islam?????LOLOLOL. First, the SAME people that follow that book, disagree with you, and used that book as part of THEIR belief..and 2ndly..islam doens't follow that book AT ALL!!!!!LOLOLOL. What you offer is SO tied up in contradiction and wishfull assumption..it's trully comical..LOLOL. WHERE is there an "awaited" succession of a "prophet" after Christ??????.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..17
Had mohammed been part of Christian theology..it would mean he served no purpose to them..LOLOL. THIS, along with the fact that Christianity awaited NO "messenger of God" to succeed Christ..and mohammed was never accepted as such; by Jews OR Christians..LOLOL. Gee, what a coincedence..LOLOL. Your wishfull analogy has done nothing but making you look like a fool..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - It is the religion that began with Abraham, and Israelites there is NO CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY it was an invention like rabbinic teachings the evil scribes pry you away from the word of God and practice of worshipping God.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..16
Some facts about the koran..their is no evidence of the koran in the first Hajira after mohammed..suras were compiled on things like palm leaves and animal bones(not very reliable!!!!LOLOLOL)..345 of the first reciters of the koran were killed in battle..the suras were first spread orally, which would mean people had "devine memory" of mohammed's sayings in absolute accuracy..LOLOL. Some suras were eaten by goats. Aisha said they were under her and mohammed's bed.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - The transition of Al Qu'ran is far more reliable than the VERSIONS of the BIBLE all who have a source 200 years after the departure of Jesus by the decisions made in Nicea. Written by unknown authors often at odds. Yes The Bible has many stories and testimonies from jesus (pbuh) but it is nit "actual" revelation throughb third, 4th and even 5th person perspective. Qu'razn was compiled, in the 1st century, through trysted scribes and sahabah who had memorised it to a tee.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@vasilis- The Qu'ran is in the exact description as it was revealed the only different are the vowels and dots etc this is purely to allow "non arabic" muslims to pronounce. The dots and markings do not change the meaning or the arabic word but ENHANCE the pronounciation. Qu'ran means to recite, to proclaim and when spoken is a revelation therefore the markings, dots, call them vowels or whatever were introduced. The arabic script is exactly the same.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..7
The vowels and dots can change the meaning from "fight" or "kill", "virgin" or "grapes", etc. The vowels and dots are used in modern Arabic; which shoots down your whole theory..LOLOL. It was introduced by the 3rd caliph, to give it what HE wanted to be the "definite" meaning. 345 of the first reciters were kiled in battle. suras were eaten by goats under mohammed and Aisha's bed..mohammed even took back certain verses himself. This is a purely unreliable source for today.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..TO END 3
The koran has one witness, of an oral tradition first written on palm leaves and animla bones..LOLOL. There is not a SINGLE witness to mohammed's claims..even his own wife doubted him, and SHE suggested to him that maybe God was "talking " to him. There is no evidence of the koran in the first century after mohammed's death; and it wasn't until the 3rd caliph, that the koran was "givin" it's meaning; after having no vowles or diacritical dots.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - That is where you are wrong and you wish to deny the compilation of the Qu'ran. It was recorded and compiled int he prophets life time, put together in it's modern form in Abu Bakr Sideek (RA) life time, you forget the Hafeez memorisers of The Qu'ran... who woulod scrutinise any scribe before any verse was recorded. The Uthmani Qu'ran is the same Qu'ran recorded in the life time of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and put together and secured by Abu Bakr Sideek (RA)
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..4
Of the early reciters..345 were killed in battle. No one knows what OTHER things mohammed said; and the suras we have today, were mistranlated and misunderstood for centuries. The 3rd caliph had ALL other versions of the koran burned, after HE decided the meaning of the koran. Their had been many different versions. In fact, the koran can be read 7 ways, with 2 variants..hence 14 options. The koran even has God speaking in the 3rd person!!!!LOLOL..hence, it's not God's words.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Remember the Qu'ran found in Sana had you bible bashers ina frenzy.. whatw as found it was the SAME ARABIC as the Uthmani Qu'ran but as it was a very early Qu'ran it did not have the dots and markings. Same Qu'ran, same meaning.if you got an Arab to read it he would read it in the same way as the modern Qu'ran with the dots and markings. Because the dots and markings are there to replicate the pronounciation for non arabs..;)
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..3
Far more "reliable"???LOLOL. Unlike Christianity; which has a tradition and witnesses..the koran has a "single witness" as the "words of God"; yet God is protrayed in the "3rd person", and much of what is in the koran is "repeated"..with minimal information, in comparison to the Bible. There is no evdidence of the koran, in the first century after mohammed's death; and suras were kept on sloppy thing like palm leaves and animal bones. They were intially spread "orally".
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..4
The first writings of the koran were written without vowels or diacritical dots..and in Arabic; which wasn't the language of the people being spoken about..yet somehow "Arabic" is the "language" to read the "words of God", about Judiac people..LOLOL. Therer were many "korans", and the one followed today, was "givin" it's meaning in the 8th-9th centuries, after the 3rd caliph; who had all other korans burned(enotes).
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..5
The Bible; on the other hand, has first Gosples from within 20 years of Jesus death, and follows the line of the Apostles. There is no theological or narrative variation, beyond simple summarizing, and inclusion of various events. islam has a set of unreliable suras, from a single witness, self serving "prophet". No comparison. We're supposed to take illterate arabs "memory" seriously; with no communal understanding of experience; but what was givin with no guidance????
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Wrong there is not a single scripture in the New Testmanet that is traced back tot he mouth of Jesus (pbuh) but it comes from eye witnesses - supposed eue witnesses written by 3rd and 4th people who were ALL unknown authors. ALL the unitarian gospels even written by people who were righteous disciples of Jesus (pbuh) even his brother were denied. 200 years later a Greek manuscript was given precedense... BUT WHERE IS THE AUTHENTIC SOURCE??? burnt, or locked away and hidden
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - The hafeez are hard for you to understand evangelist because you do not have that kind of believer in Xtianity. These are in their millions across the world and know the Qu'ran word for word, penny for penny and this tradition began with prophet muhammad (SAW). God said he will prtect this message until etrenity and not let the evil doers and evil scribes to manipulate and chnage the word. God keeps his promise - ameen.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..18
The koran that is recited "all over the world" has no evidence for what it claims. Furthermore, the tradition of islam was created out of the word; which we can see has failed. Had islam had the word of God, all would bow to it..yet that's not the case. That would mean God in imperfect; which he is not..and his words would be of the 3rd person!!!!!. The koran is not God's words; and the language ITSELF makes that MORE than clear; as does it's contradicitons.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Sorry the above was gibberish so since I do not have reasoning with giberish I can not answer :)
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
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ThirdPharaoh 1 year ago
Vasilis, In Gospel of John 1:19-21 - The israelites question our beloved prophet John The Baptist (pbuh) 3 questions: Trying to find out who he was, they asked him if he was 1) Elias - John (obuh) said No, 2) The Promised Messiah - John (pbuh) said NO he was then asked 3) Are you then, "That Prophet". Vasilis explain to me who That Prophet to come after The Messiah who was not Elias. Christians centuries later explain John (pbuh) was Elias eventhough he did not admit to this, who was The 3rd.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago 17
Vasilis, if you stopped conjecture (gibberish) and looked academically into your faith and its origins you will know that "only" 1 Prophet came after Jesus (pbuh) who was a good paracleyot, who glorified Jesus and his moher (pbut), he came from the princes of Kedar, he came from the wildernes of Bakah from the mountains of Paran, who was the unletterd prophet of Isaiah prophecy, the prophet unto Moses from among the brethren. He was who The Israelites awaited flocking to Yathrib for his arrival.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago 9
Muslims folow the faith of Abraham (pbuh), the uphold the covenant of the flesh & uphold ALL the laws given to Moses (pbuh). Muslims glorify the mighty messenger Jesus (pbuh) and his honourable mother (pbwt), Al Qu'ran encompasses all that was before & organises mankind to take heed to the cal of your creator. christians follow Pauline doctrine, breaking the covenant, breaking he laws of Moses (pbuh) & Vasilis look by merit, Islam is a practical religion who follow the wisdom of ALL PROPHET
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago 9
read the word and understand the word, the word is God not your conjecture Vasilis. I responded to your naive almost child like messages. The man in this video is a fraud that is plain stakingly obvious. You can rejoice all you like, No religion today is uiform, practiced in the same way as the prophets. No religion reaches out to ALL, young, old, blac and white like Islam. You can never take that away from it Vasilis & if YOU WERE SINCERE you would read Qu'ran with a "good intention".
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago 9
Vasilis & to all those who deny Islam, if you are humble and sincere and undoubtedly wish to find God. Then you owe it to you, your soul and for the benefit of doubt to understand Al Qu'ran. You begin with cleansing your mind and body, ablution of your mind and body - cleanse your body and mind and with GOD INTENTION ask The God of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Jesus for guidance. Read Al Qu'ran with a noble intention, you will be surprised this is MY CHALLENGE to you Vasilis. Good day
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago 20
@ALANSARALHAQ..LASTLY
Don't give me your muslims garbage..LOLOL. You have a "religion" that begins and ends with the "word"; with no tradition to exaplin it. You have a one witness, self serving "prophet", who made special exceptions for himself with wives and concubines, 1/5 of spoils(looting) from war, had his adopted son divorce his wife so HE could have her, attacked caravans, and had no humility..unlike Christ..who even islam says was "sinless". Only the one of God is sinless. THE END.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - So at what point did you answer the question placed to you!! John 1:-19-21very intrigued to know who That Prophet was in your learned opinion? or was this wrong of me to read the bible like this because after all as you a supposed religous man called me..I am afteralla moron and unable to hold a opinion. Rather than blather on irrelevance why not answe a simple question.. it is quite easy really. listen you write drivvle and your responses are rude and weak. so long..
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..1
ARE YOU RETARDED???????LOLOL. You actually have the NERVE to come back for more humiliation??????. You can't even get your verses straight; then are given an undisputable analysis..and you STILL want to try and buy time???????LOLOL. You MUST be joking. "Prophet" was a term used for many Bibilical figures. If their was a tradition of a "prophet" to follow the Messiah; it would be in the SAME Bible you quote from; but isn't. What IS, is praise for Jesus. Your imagination is funny
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - well either you are not learned or you are dyslexic.. Three questions were asked;1) are you The messiah 2) are you elias & 3) are you That prophet.
That prophet does not mean deceased prophets nor does it mean all prophets. ....
I am asking you from your bible that there was obviously a prophet awaited other than the return of Elias and The coming of The Masih..this third wasreferred to as That prophet. I am asking you for a logical explanation
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..TO END..1
As was expected..you came back doing EXACTLY what I had humiliated you bout before..and it took you a few days to even do THAT again..LOLOLOL. Where are my answers about islam???????. You can't even form simple logic; yet you think you can debate?????LOLOLOL. "Elijah" was to "return" after the Messiah, hence..a "dead" prophet..but enough about that SAME OLD FAILED muslim WISHFULL THINKING..LOLOL. WHAT ABOUT MYYYYY QUESTIONS?????. YOU muslim COWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - read John 1: 19-21 read it in the King james version in all the early VERSIONS of the bible... not the altered nonsense of recent revised VERSIONS because rather than answer and look into this ppl like you would rather mistranslate and misquote the text and change context. Read it it refers to a 3rd prophet, not Elijah/Elias, Not The messiah but a 3rd. I had to go to your channel to check YOUR AGE 37 your v. childish or child like should I say.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..19
Suicide bombers are WEL verses in the koran, yet defy it. The koran says suicide is forbidden..yet TIME after TIME muslims defend it. This kind of imperfection isn't God; it's mohammed and the caliphs who had a simlilar, selfish agenda as mohammed. How do you compare the humility of Christ, to a "prophet" who gave himslef uncondtional privleges of wives, concubines(whores), and slave girls????LOLOL. How is THAT going to follow Christ??????. ABSURD "religion"..LOLOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..20
I read the oroginal GREEK Bible, you moron..LOLOL. There is no "altered" Bible; but various translations of the GREEK Koinic Bible..of which I'm firmiliar with ALL of them. As a Greek; i can tell you without hesitation; your analogy is BEYOND comical..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..LASTLY
While I have answered MILLIONS of times, the same ridiculous questions; and have done it even AFTER pointing out to you that while I'm doing THAT, you avoid MY questions..you come back with simple denial for islam, and MORE of the same questions directed towards me; as a way to buy time..LOLOLOL. You haven't been able to defend my challenges in the LEAST. On DIRECT quotes from your koran, teachings from mohammed, and history of islam and koran. END OF STORY..PERIOD.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - King James Version of YOUR BIBLE; JOhn 1: 19-21
1:19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
1:20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou "That prophet?" And he answered, No. ....wE KNOW WHO ELIAS, WE KNOW THE MESSIAH BUT WHO is "THAT PROPHET". to come after Christ..
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@Vasilis719... Pleasee xplain and stop digressing the conversation.. simple question who was the 3rd Prophet they mention... this unknown mysterious prophet.. the same who is from the princes of Kedar, unlettered prophet of Isaiah, from the wilderness of Paran (Arabia).. A prophet unto Moses, commanded by God to speak in God's words only... i.e. the first revelation given to Muhammad (SAW) READ READ in the name of your Lord.. Muhammad (SAW) says I can not I am "unlettered" not learned...
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..2
LOLOL..dude, your beating a dead horse. Their is no Judaic or Christian tradition of a "messenger of God" to follow Christ. Secondly(as I've pointed it)..islam doesn't even follow the Bible..so to use the Bible as "defense" of islam, is like a vegetarian trying to sell a burger..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..3
I must say..I've never met someone who is such a baboon brain..LOLOL. Who's "the prophet"??????. Anyone who "prophecizes". Please show me where the Bible speaks of "the prophet", as an awaited chronology after Christ??????LOLOL. What your suggesting, is that the Jews and Christians put "the prophet" in the Bible to address "moahmmed"(LOL); yet neither religion, or tradition states such things. "Prophet" is a general term. mohammed wasn't even in the line of Jacob and Issac.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..4
LOLOL..your mixing your "Biblical" with your "koranic"..LOLOLOL. The Bible doens't state a "mystery prophet"; your imagination does..LOLOLOL. Nor does the verse say anything about an Arab(who wasn't even in the line of prophets; and was a decended of Hagar). Don't give me your "convenience" of imagination, and mixing Bible and koran as you wish to justify mohammed. Their is NO part of "prophet" in the Bible as a successor to the Meissah. PERIOD.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - was prophet Abraham (pbuh) not polygamous? did prophet David, Soloman and Moses not lead their nation to war. prophet jesus (pbuh) uhnlike the above was not in charge of a people, a tribe nor a leader of a nation as he WAS REJECTED in his life time by The israelites.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..TO END 2
WHERE ARE MY ANSWRS????????. YOU ARE A WALKING HUMILIATION..LOLOLO. YOU HAVE A DIRECT CHALLNEGE, AND YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT AVOIDED AND RUN IN CIRCLES..LOLOLOL. YOUR A STRAIGHT UP WEAK COWARD. I SPEND MUCH TIME ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS, 100'S OF TIMES, AND NOT A SINGLE DEFENSE FOR islam ON YOUR PART..LOLOLOL. YOUR VERY PREDICTABLE..AND SHAMEFULLY WEAK..:((((((((
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - what answers!!! 1% substance, 70% drivvle riddled in conjecture and 29% Abuse.. hardly answering. Your a small man, small in means, small in words, small in honour, small in knowledge and small in your understanding.
So small that the more your use caps and SHOUT and litter the page with your answers it bears no reflection on your insignificant self. Good day.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..6
As we have seen with you..you avoid ALL challenges of your personal failures of articulate, accurate, historical theology..as well as ALL challenges of your koran and mohammed. How can a "religion" start and end with a set of words; from a single witness "prophet" of self serving military, material, and lustfull desires??????. Had the koran been the word of God; well verses suicide bombers wouldn't blow themselves up..which the koran forbids suicide.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..7
What you have done with a challenge; is avoid it, and ask the same failed question 500 times..LOLOL. Answer MY challenges. mohammed said, "Ztheir is no compulsion in religion", yet history has shown him an aggressive military commander; who imposed "compulsion". He made special exceptions for himslef with wives and concubines(whores); said of the infidel.."I will strike off their heads; the very tips of their fingers". Also he said.."take not Jews and Christians as friends".
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I think you have shown your contempt and beligerance and limitations in understanding Islam even if it were in context or pretext BUT you are here deending Christianity ar eyou not and you have done so very poorly. Your abusive outbursts aside please answer me who was That Prophet in John 1 verse 19 to 21.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ - As someone who has already made judgement against Islam I asked you a question to test your academic reasoning and logic. What I got from you is evangelist bollo cks.. gibberish, digression, sidestepping. I have not abused Christians nor Christianity and sought a honourable dialogue you instead of asnwering questions posed to you, you post drivvle, gibberish and counter question me ignoring the question. Reflects on your logical reasoning and your spirituality..poor & devious
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..3
You have "sought" to "assume" a convenient answer; without knowledge of the tradition that the scripture serves. You have also misquoted, and avoided answering ANY challenge of islam. Your avoidance to buy time with whining about your failures, has achieved a pathetic defense of islam..LOLOLOL. How does an Arab polygamist, pedophile, military aggressor, with self serving ambitions fit in with "proper scripture"..LOLOL. Where are HIS witnesses????. Only himself.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 you said polygamy???? yet Polygamy was practiced by Israelite prophets.. the greatest of whom was our beloved father Abrahm (pbuh). You mention paedophillia??? I disagree at i you are a christian and purporting to be a great defender of Christian so I give you the beenfit of the doubt. How Old was the wife of prophet Joseph (pbuh). 3rdly.. Was prophet David (pbuh) not a military commander? was prophet Soloman not a millitary commander, was prophet Moses not similar?
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..FOR KICKS..LOLOL.
When it's convenient for you, you avoid "relgious" matter with "spelling"..LOLOL. Then you lose THAT battle, and come back with a defeated "initial" argument..LOLOL. Dude, the hole you have dug for islam is beyond laughable..:(((((.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - There is no hole, Alhamdulillah when one has his handfilled with wealth from the divine then he surely wishes to share with his fellow man. But my fellow man, is ignorant, almost child like refusing to be mature and discuss in a rational manner but instead all I have had from you conjecture and drivvle. I tis you alone who avoids answering you have not shown yourself to behanve nor come acros exemplary but someone very shallow who paints a very unhopeful picture of a Christian.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..1
"Wealth"?LOLOL. Ignorance, horrible human rights, low education/literacy, philsophical/historical contradictions are not "valuable"..LOLOL. The "Christian" could turn the "muslim" world into a parking lot..the ONLY thing keeping you from being "dust" is Christian tolerance. Had the "Christian been like the muslim; you wouldn't even have the free speech to speak against "Christianity. islamic countries offer no "free speech", or conversion away from islam.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..FOR KICKS 2..LOL
"Polygamy" in the history of Judaic culture isn't a "theological" matter..and in FACT, Jewsish people are not "polygmist"; not are Christians. David also had one of his soldiers abandoned, so he could have his wife..yet the ten commandments of Moses say.."thou shall not covet thy neighbours wife". The Jewish people are criticized MUCH in the Old Testamnet(Torah). David, Soloman, etc. didn't initiate to convert non-Jews to Judaism..unlike your mohammed and islam.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - Did prophet Abraham (pbuh) not have 4 wives? once he had amde the divine covenant. Please reflect on this... I think we were discussing millitary commanders. Unlike Saiyyidina Jesus (pbuh) Sayyidina David (pbuh) and Soloman as was Sayyidina Moses (pbuh) leaders of a NATION in "their" lifetime, they led an army a people a society and defended their kingdom. But the correlation I amde to allow your simnple mond to reflect seems to be awash with you.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..2
Wow, you REALLY have a hard time following a debate..LOLOL. As was said..not ONLY did he have multiple wives; so did David..yet these prophets never were "commanded" by God, or spoke of "Godly" polygamy..LOLOL. AS we see in the law of Moses.."thou shall not commit adultry". When God choose to give the "law", it stated to not be "polygamist". "polygamy" is by nature adultrous. You cannot be faithful and have multiple partners.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..3
As was said..Jesus had no army; and his "kingdom" was of the spirit, and of belief in his sentiment. Christians were wiling martyrs to die unarmed for their belief in Christ. David(unlike mohammed) "defended" his people; yet didn't "attack" other kingdoms to convert non-Jews to Judaism. Sound firmiliar???. Your mohammed said.."I will make all people submit to Allah and tkae me as his messnger". What's also ironic, is he said.."their is no compulsion in religion". Your retarded.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..FOR KICKS 3..LOLOL
Joseph didn't conceive Jesus..whom Mary had as a young women..while mohammed married both a 9 year old; when he was in his 50's..and his adopted son's wife..who he made divorce, so he could have her. 1/5 of the spoils(loot) of war were reserved for mohammed and "Allah"(what would God do with "spoils"????LOLOLOL). mohammed gave himself special privleges in numbers of wives, concubines, and slave girls. Unlike the "prophets", or mohammed, Jesus was "sinless".
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I asked you how old was prophet Jospeh (pbuh) wife?? Again if your talking about age..whatw as the age of prophet Abraham (pbuh) when he took wifes after Sarah. I have shown you polygamy existed before Islam and is a semitic tradition, Israelite tradition and if lawful is sanctioned before God. NO one admonished Abraham (pbuh) for having more than one wife... yet he was closer to God than you Vasilis..you sadly ar eno where near alas.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..4
Are you trully slow in the mind??????. Joseph didn't sleep with Mary; hence(as islam believes) Jesus was born of a virgin. Don't you know your OWN religion?????. AS has been explained A THOUSAND times to you..the Jewish people are shown to be faulted; and "history of semites" and "theology" are two different things. Had what you said been relevant; Jews would be pedophilic polygamists..LOLOLOL. Yet no Jewish or Christian tradition as "theology" practices such things. You idiot.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..2
As we have seen..you have misquoted chapters, you have misquoted verses(John 1:19-34 says NOTHING of an Arab prophet to follow Christ), and have taken the same verse that asks about a dead prophet(Elijah), as "naturally" meaning mohammed..LOLOL. The Bible spekas of a prophet in the line of Moses to come..not an Arab cavedweller..LOLOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - I am asking you who "that" prophet is..so atleast we are getting closer you NOW after a painful number of messages i.e. drivvle from "you" part you now admit in John 1: 19 - 21 it refers to a 3rd prophet who was "awaited"..the one referred to as That Prophet. Please explain who this prophet is...
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..8
mohammed also said.."surely among your wives their is a traitor". The koran/hadith also speaks of homosexual rewards for muslims fighters. "Youths of perpetual freshness". Even Aisha said of mohammed.."it seems the Lord hastens to fullfill your desires". No one saw the angel Gabriel; even as mohammed said he was speaking to him. mohammed thought the words of "God" meant he was going crazy!!!!. How could the warm, loving words of God make you think "insanity"?????. END OF STORY.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - So you still have digressed from my original question of who That prophet is a third named prophet other than Elias who disappeared because of zealot Israelites and later Christian apologetics define John to be Elias even though his admission was NO. We know he was not the Messiah but we have yet to understand who That Prophet was?.. rather than digressing answer the question.. John chapter One verse 19 to 21...
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..1
LOLOLOL..just what I expected..you answer a challenge(both new and previously stated), with avoidance..and clinging to previous failures. Don't speak for Christians, you idiot. John is recognized as the Holy witness to Christ. All prophets are from the line of Jacob and Issac..while mohammed is from the line of Ishmael..LOLOL. How convenient of you to assume "mohammed"; an Arab; is a "prophet" of Judiasm and Christianity..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@Vasilis719 - In the bible the israelites ask my beloved prophet John (pbuh) 3 distinct questions; 1) Are you The Messiah, 2) Are you Elias and thirdly which you continue not to answer and digress from is are you That prophet.. who is this 3rd prophet... please explain.
ALANSARALHAQ 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..PART 4
Ahh..wishfull thinking is a weak defense, little muslims..LOLOL. I'm quite firmiliar with the koran and islam..and in fact, islam=; who's own "prophet" said, "their is no compulsion in religion", went ahead and built the most "compulsive" miltiary religion ever seen. He also contradicted himself and said.."If a believer turns his back on islam, kill him wherever you find him". islam is a human rights nightmare. No religion has fed, clothed, more people than Christianity.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..PART 3
Christianity is the line of Abraham after the fullfillment of the Messiah. Paul was a radical Jew, and strict follower of the law. Orhtodox Christianity follows the line of Paul..and hence, celebrate Easter after Passover, and embrace the Old Testament. moahammed was a "Hagarene"; and not a "prophet" of anything. Hence, the koran is false in ideology, lineage, and historical significance of theology or relevance. All's islam did was serve moahmmed, and his military desire
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..PART 2
As we have seen from before..your muslim education has failed you..LOLOL. Their is no tradition of a "prophet" after Christ; and the very idea is from a man(mohammed) who is a single witness to himself. By islam's OWN standards; moahmmed is not even in the lineage of prophets, from Jacob and Issac..but he's from the line of ishmael, and from the bastard son of Hagar. muslims were first called "hagarenes". Go study reality, little muslims..LOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago
@ALANSARALHAQ..4
As was made clear previously..the Pharisees didn't give a "chronology" of a "prophet" to follow the Christ..and there is no Jewish tradition of a "last prophet messenger of God". John only spoke of Jesus..and said nothing of a "prophet" to follow him. Your muslims assumptions are totally 1st grade wishfull thinking..LOLOL. Laslty..as a muslims; you don't even believe in Biblical scripture; yet you pathetically tried to use the Bible to defend islam!!!!..LOLOLOL.
Vasilis719 1 year ago