Thats one moment i will never forget when watching it the first time back in the day when it aired on tv. When Donovan said "Food"... I dont think i have ever felt that chill in my neck in the movie teather or anywhere else since then.
@longspear584 Yes your right m8 like the SFX in The Thing 1982 in them days they had to have some brains to make things look good but people now a day's use computers too much and are getting lazy which is a reason why there isnt as many people going to watch film's now cause of the same boring shit
@SH4R9Y - Making good CGI is just as creative as making good models...the problem is that most CGI is crap. However look at films like Lord of the Rings - the CGI was beautiful. Go back to the 80s and for every decent model method there was 50 crappy ones. It's about the artistic effort not the medium used.
Chilling, but a point where the story loses scientific validity. Feed to protein conversion ratios for humans is incredibly slow compared to say, broiler chickens. The only excuse for farming humans for food would be some demonic passion for devouring the defeated, otherwise, for long distance space travel, cargo weights and storage capacities, a factory farm of broiler chickens feeding on a slurry of plankton and maybe fish would be much more efficient.
@PDXBikes Yes but they may not be as tasty as humans. Wouldn't the visitors have some GM type artificial growth to make humans grow more quickly and breed more readily? Dunno - I'm not a scientist. Also I get the impression their planet is a wasteland caused by over exploitation of resources.
@guibbs135 ..that actually would have happened had Ken Johnson returned to do the follow up mini series but NBC exec's got involved and wanted a much more action based mini series more in tune with their top rated shows at the time TheA Team and Knight Rider and so we got the Final Battle which Johnson pretty much disowns and dosen't consider canon as far as his story was susposed to go
What if this is going on here on Earth...in deep underground bases? Rewatch this series...but think native reptilians living deep within our Earth. Have they been secretly ruling us for thousands of years. Is this One Nation Under Satan: The Old World Disorder Reptilian Theocracy? I don't really know...but please consider this as a possibility.
Joyless666: I learned everything I know from my therapist...on the couch...and behind the couch. Have you researched Deep Underground Military Bases...with or without reptilians and greys? How about Project Paperclip? Have you read 'Rule by Secrecy' or 'Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs. Or 'Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper? Who brings cocaine into the U.S? Why? Who controls the City States? Read 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell' by Joseph Farrell. You may need a therapist too...
your crazy, the greys are made from the lizzies, they are their minions, thats a proven fact, check out creto mutwa, he has some great info for you. And fyi, they greys are the ones that kidnap people and take them into the bases to do genetic re-modifications to humans, ex.. hybrids
The actor who plays the visitor telling Donovan about the true intentions of his kind doesn`t play his role very good...he is obviously ashamed of the fact that they eat human flesh - but things like this have to be absolutely normal for him!! If I would have to explain a cow that its kind isn`t more than food for humans I may be friendly - but finally I will go on eating cows!!
To ShadowCompany01: Actually, humans are a new source of food for the Visitors. Human beings were never originally in the Visitor's diet. If there were a global food shortage on earth, it would be more like explaining to your pet cat, dog, horse, etc. (animals that humans associate closely with) why they are to be eaten. Martin's remorse is that of someone who would, normally, be proud of their heritage but, alas, realizes the turn his people had to take that they might survive.
jayhouser -- I accept the point you make, but surely a far more advanced race than us would have worked out a way to overcome the food shortage on their own planet?
To Nornegest: You would think so, but I believe the damage to their food sources is extreme. The ones left on their planet are pretty near famished. Resources are very limited, which is one of the reasons why not all the aliens' personnel for this project were sent at once--more are on their way! This is sort of a "quick fix." Also, I think their enemy had something to do with their crippled state (I believe they are still at war with them.)
I wonder what sort of livestock would be raised on the Visitors' home planet -- giant rodents, perhaps? No, not trying to be funny, I am being Sirius.
They aren't really that much more advanced than us. They have ships with engines that allow them to travel huge distances. Apart from that, their technology isn't that much more advanced than ours. We have lazers now, for starters. He also says that water is the fuel that powers their fusion reactors. I can't see how you could make a machine powered by water that could make water.
Oh well. It's like that all the time. This was made over 29 years ago, and technology has changed much since then. The world has changed. Our viewing tastes have changed.
But not Kenneth Johnson's V. Watching this with grown-up eyes, I am surprised at its power to grip me still -- and it's not so much the special effects per se. It's the writing, direction, casting and subtleties in the storyline, much of which I was too young to grasp then, but able to appreciate better now as an adult.
Martin was one of the Visitors who would have preferred a peaceful and mutual sharing of resources. This was an invasion of sorts. Frank Ashmore played Martin by the bye.
"A force that's defeated him before" could simply refer to other ET's. Warfare everywhere.
fledermaus81 1 year ago
That's some epic stuff right there
fledermaus81 1 year ago 2
Thats one moment i will never forget when watching it the first time back in the day when it aired on tv. When Donovan said "Food"... I dont think i have ever felt that chill in my neck in the movie teather or anywhere else since then.
KonChul 1 year ago 3
Looks like the derelict spacecraft from the origional Alien..........I love these awesome agrophobic long shots.
stegatops 1 year ago
The Guy who plays Martin is fcking Brilliant!
cudgalactica 2 years ago 5
looks like a H.R. Giger painting
onelovincriminal 2 years ago 4
Damn lizard people!
3KS26 2 years ago
That food chamber scene was nasty when I was kid...
LS8492 2 years ago
Why did they not kill David? Cowards!!
thomasandtanga 2 years ago
i've said it before, but they had pretty good SFX in the eighties. sometimes it looks better than the shit today.
longspear584 2 years ago 7
@longspear584 Yes your right m8 like the SFX in The Thing 1982 in them days they had to have some brains to make things look good but people now a day's use computers too much and are getting lazy which is a reason why there isnt as many people going to watch film's now cause of the same boring shit
SH4R9Y 2 years ago 3
@SH4R9Y - Making good CGI is just as creative as making good models...the problem is that most CGI is crap. However look at films like Lord of the Rings - the CGI was beautiful. Go back to the 80s and for every decent model method there was 50 crappy ones. It's about the artistic effort not the medium used.
Optimusnorm 1 year ago
You said it...........CGI is shit. I dont care if people call me a dinosaur or a luddite, but the models and mattes had 10X more balls!
stegatops 1 year ago 2
wow
it's like you guys speak another language
TheGuardianizz 2 years ago
I heard the new book does tpuches on that plot line and the visitors' enemies do send help.
TheDjmoore33 2 years ago
Matrix scene= stolen from V. Rock on Kenny Johnson!
taurus454647 2 years ago 9
@taurus454647 Agreed
rc2869 1 year ago
@rc2869
Chilling, but a point where the story loses scientific validity. Feed to protein conversion ratios for humans is incredibly slow compared to say, broiler chickens. The only excuse for farming humans for food would be some demonic passion for devouring the defeated, otherwise, for long distance space travel, cargo weights and storage capacities, a factory farm of broiler chickens feeding on a slurry of plankton and maybe fish would be much more efficient.
PDXBikes 1 year ago
@PDXBikes Yes but they may not be as tasty as humans. Wouldn't the visitors have some GM type artificial growth to make humans grow more quickly and breed more readily? Dunno - I'm not a scientist. Also I get the impression their planet is a wasteland caused by over exploitation of resources.
rc2869 11 months ago
@PDXBikes maybe they just taste nicer?
stopthesoftkill 7 months ago
HIs enemy that's defeated him before. That's an angle in the entire series that has never been touched upon any further to my knowledge.
Adrianrulz 2 years ago 15
Yeah other than when they sent the signal to them for aid. Wonder if the new book touches on this plot line.
TWheels94 2 years ago
That would have been an awesome twist indeed. Perhaps they forgot about it altogether.
Adrianrulz 2 years ago
Totally. I'd like to know more.
86haromaster 2 years ago
@TWheels94 ..yes it does.... but i won't give anythng else away..its basically what The Final should have been according Ken Johnson
TheVardiss22 18 hours ago
@Adrianrulz
That's true, and it was a pity. When I was child, I was looking forward to the arrival of that ennemies...
guibbs135 1 year ago
@guibbs135 ..that actually would have happened had Ken Johnson returned to do the follow up mini series but NBC exec's got involved and wanted a much more action based mini series more in tune with their top rated shows at the time TheA Team and Knight Rider and so we got the Final Battle which Johnson pretty much disowns and dosen't consider canon as far as his story was susposed to go
TheVardiss22 18 hours ago
Food! *insert cheezy creepy music*
I love it :D
Jonz66 2 years ago 7
That scene has never left my memory banks since its first watch back in the day.
86haromaster 2 years ago 4
What if this is going on here on Earth...in deep underground bases? Rewatch this series...but think native reptilians living deep within our Earth. Have they been secretly ruling us for thousands of years. Is this One Nation Under Satan: The Old World Disorder Reptilian Theocracy? I don't really know...but please consider this as a possibility.
redletterchurch 2 years ago
It's time for you to turn off the computer. Slowly step away. . .and call a therapist.
Joyness333 2 years ago
Joyless666: I learned everything I know from my therapist...on the couch...and behind the couch. Have you researched Deep Underground Military Bases...with or without reptilians and greys? How about Project Paperclip? Have you read 'Rule by Secrecy' or 'Rise of the Fourth Reich' by Jim Marrs. Or 'Behold a Pale Horse' by Bill Cooper? Who brings cocaine into the U.S? Why? Who controls the City States? Read 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell' by Joseph Farrell. You may need a therapist too...
redletterchurch 2 years ago
You're a moron, the greys are human time travellers from the future and a future step in our evolution, proven fact
OchrismongrelO 2 years ago
your crazy, the greys are made from the lizzies, they are their minions, thats a proven fact, check out creto mutwa, he has some great info for you. And fyi, they greys are the ones that kidnap people and take them into the bases to do genetic re-modifications to humans, ex.. hybrids
1necrovenom 2 years ago
Leader=Hitler
LeCreuset05 3 years ago
that area is creepy to me
Restarea11019V 3 years ago
Diana reminds me of BUSH Jr.
Fricken Lizard.
catlady4justice 3 years ago 2
Okay. Yeah. That's friggin' freaky!
kardiackid75 3 years ago
The actor who plays the visitor telling Donovan about the true intentions of his kind doesn`t play his role very good...he is obviously ashamed of the fact that they eat human flesh - but things like this have to be absolutely normal for him!! If I would have to explain a cow that its kind isn`t more than food for humans I may be friendly - but finally I will go on eating cows!!
ShadowCompany01 3 years ago
To ShadowCompany01: Actually, humans are a new source of food for the Visitors. Human beings were never originally in the Visitor's diet. If there were a global food shortage on earth, it would be more like explaining to your pet cat, dog, horse, etc. (animals that humans associate closely with) why they are to be eaten. Martin's remorse is that of someone who would, normally, be proud of their heritage but, alas, realizes the turn his people had to take that they might survive.
jayhouser 3 years ago
jayhouser -- I accept the point you make, but surely a far more advanced race than us would have worked out a way to overcome the food shortage on their own planet?
Nornegest 3 years ago
To Nornegest: You would think so, but I believe the damage to their food sources is extreme. The ones left on their planet are pretty near famished. Resources are very limited, which is one of the reasons why not all the aliens' personnel for this project were sent at once--more are on their way! This is sort of a "quick fix." Also, I think their enemy had something to do with their crippled state (I believe they are still at war with them.)
jayhouser 3 years ago
Their enemy -- the Zedti, I presume.
I wonder what sort of livestock would be raised on the Visitors' home planet -- giant rodents, perhaps? No, not trying to be funny, I am being Sirius.
Nornegest 3 years ago
They aren't really that much more advanced than us. They have ships with engines that allow them to travel huge distances. Apart from that, their technology isn't that much more advanced than ours. We have lazers now, for starters. He also says that water is the fuel that powers their fusion reactors. I can't see how you could make a machine powered by water that could make water.
DrChalkwithering 3 years ago
Oh well. It's like that all the time. This was made over 29 years ago, and technology has changed much since then. The world has changed. Our viewing tastes have changed.
But not Kenneth Johnson's V. Watching this with grown-up eyes, I am surprised at its power to grip me still -- and it's not so much the special effects per se. It's the writing, direction, casting and subtleties in the storyline, much of which I was too young to grasp then, but able to appreciate better now as an adult.
Nornegest 3 years ago
Sorry, a typing mistake in the first paragraph. It should have read "over 20 years ago", not "29 years ago".
Nornegest 3 years ago
I totally agree with that statement. I appreciate this on a whole other level as an adult. Also, wow, it really was over 20 years ago wasn't it?!
charlottehasdeu 2 years ago
Martin was one of the Visitors who would have preferred a peaceful and mutual sharing of resources. This was an invasion of sorts. Frank Ashmore played Martin by the bye.
Iluthra 3 years ago
How would you explain to someone about eating a chimpanzee?
DrChalkwithering 3 years ago
Your biological distinctivness will be added to our immense refridgerator!
swordofisis 3 years ago
The Wachowski brothers probably watched this and got an idea about a certain movie...
earp1673 3 years ago 4
Ripped straight out of an H.R. Giger painting.
luisjoseromero 3 years ago
Why not eat whales or cow?
silus2000 3 years ago 2
mad cow
sunra1973 3 years ago
you fail
silus2000 3 years ago
maybe they arent so nutricional.lol
sonekkka82 3 years ago
yeah, but back home in Texas, we call that a 'dry heat', i'll tell you what...
shafty1968 3 years ago
Humans are not the only things they will be collecting as a food source...
jayhouser 3 years ago
because humans fight back
LastReplaySC 3 years ago
This is most definitely a flashback to my childhood. Thank you for posting it!!!!!
Chipchik 3 years ago
me too! i packed my dacks!!
tessieinc 4 years ago
MATRIX?
donkeyfarts1 4 years ago
Well yes and know. In sci fi, similar story plots are done inthe genre. in V we were food. In the Matrix we were batteries.
Bladestar7 4 years ago
Although, originally this theme was used in an episode of "The Twilight Zone" from the early 1960's, "To Serve Man".
Yesimustbestupid 4 years ago
food batteries same thing
both give out energy
deadlyedley 3 years ago
One species is another species' meals. . . Go Vegetarian!
williamsquire 4 years ago
Go Vegetarian LOL!!!
MissyKwan 4 years ago