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  • People are free to believe in whatever god they choose, whether they believe in the true God (Jesus Christ) or not. If it's a question of conversion, that's why we have missionaries, to tell of God's word.

  • Allah is the best name of God. It is the same God that every one believes in because there is ONLY ONE AND ONLY GOD, WHY DO CHRISTIANS THINK ALLAH IS SOME OTHER GOD? Who made the word God? Is this word in the bible?Allah is the word God has liked to use for Himself in the QURAN.If you reject Quran that,s your sin.

  • @xquse18 Doesn't allah just mean 'the god'? Which is often just translated as god? That's not even a name buddy.

  • @humanistheart Read what i wrote properly because that is what i have written that {{ ALLAH IS THE NAME GOD HAS CHOSEN FORHIMSELF IN QURAN . nEXT IS THAT ALLAH IS THE SAME GOD WHOM EVERYONE CALLS GOD. THERE IS NO OTHER gOD EXCEPT THE ONE AND ONLY GOD WHO CREATED EVERYTHING.WHATEVER YOU CALL HIM WITH LOVE IT DOESNT MATTER ,WHAT MATERS IS THAT YOU KNOW HE IS ONLY ONE.

  • @xquse18 Does allah mean 'the god' or not? If so, it's not really a name.

  • @humanistheart What does the word God mean?  This word [ GOD } is not in the Bible then where it came from? Allah is the word that is in the quran. When the word is derieved exactly as it is from a book ,it has signaficance.

  • @xquse18 Given that the alphabet that you're using now is not what was used in the quaran, no, the word god is not in the quaran, it's a translation.

  • @humanistheart Can you please tell me what is the meaning of the word GOD? Is the word GOD in the bible? I know that the word GOD is not in the Quran but is the word GOD in the bible? what does the word god means?

  • @humanistheart please reply ,what is the meaning of God, Is this word ,[ God ] ,in the BIBLE?

  • @humanistheart Please reply me ,I am waiting for your reply , i am really anxious to know the meaning of the word,...[ GOD ] and also to know if the same word GOD is in the Bible? AS ALLAH is the word used as it is in Quran. I was enjoying this conversation with you so lets just not stop here ,may be we come to some useful and knowledgeable conclusions. please reply.

  • @humanistheart please reply to my Question of God. If you dont have an answer then it,s o.k but what do you think about this man posting stupid videos showing how dum he is? He is just asking questions that are so easy to answer and if he really does,nt know what he is asking then he really needs help ,because i can see satan sitting in his eyes .Do you?

  • I remember one more thing that i have heard or seen ,i dont exactly remember but I think there is a word ILLAH in bible in hebrew. please search for it.

  • @xquse18 Good to hear from you after a long time. where were you ? Do you want to continue where you left? I asked you so many times ,what does the word God means? Well you said heaven is only for the people who believe in Jesus ,then what if that person commits crimes like murders ,then what? hell is the only place for him.

  • Matthew 5:45

    New International Version 1984 (NIV1984)

    matthew 5:45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

  • you know people use different names for god but in the end we pray to the same god so alla is the same god in this case, and nobody is going to hell , man god says that the payment that a person receives for sinning is death, not hell, who is going to pay for the gas bill, god is like your dad if you do something wrong your dad beats the crap out you and that's it,do you want to go against your dad like if you are 10 tear old

  • YOUR IGNORANCE IS SHOWING!

    Muslims are supposed to only read the Quran in Arabic. So,they'd pray& speak of God in Arabic. "Allah" is the Arabic word for "God" just as "Dieu" is French for "God" When my Hispanic niece says "Oh Dios Mio!" She's not praying to a false god but saying, "Oh my God." In Spanish! Islam is an Abrahamic faith. Their Holy book is full of the same Old Testament stories the Bible& the Torah! So the Muslim couple prayed to God just as a Christian or Jewish couple would!

  • @etonks While it's true that the Koran copies a great deal from the Torah and the Bible, the claims of each religion are mutually exclusive. It's overly simplistic to claim that they would be praying to the same god. Are Muslims praying to a god who took human form and had himself sacrificed in order to forgive our sins? According to Christianity, Jesus is the only path to salvation. This is an essential part of the Christian religion. These are distinct and mutually exclusive claims.

  • @BrooklynRagtag "Abrahamic" means a faith that follows the teachings of Abraham & the God of Abraham Mat 22:32. They don't "copy" they follow. Jews don't believe Jesus was the Messiah, Muslims believe He was a very special profit but not the Messiah. Neither believe He was the Son of God..that's what Christianity's all about Charlie Brown. There's also the Trinity, which is solely Christian. But God is still God.

    So, not the same faith, different... but "cousins" with the same foundation.

  • @etonks The three major Abrahamic faiths make mutually exclusive claims about the god they worship. Each of the three separate god characters make very different demands of humanity. Ask a fundamentalist Christian and a fundamentalist Muslim if they are worshiping the same god as the other. While liberal religious folk might take an approach to religion that is more inclusive, and consequently much less internally consistent, it's a mistake to oversimplify the matter.

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  • @BrooklynRagtag (Pt1) Mohammed himself was quite clear in teaching that he was calling his hearers to the worship of the God worshipped by the Jews. Originally, muslims worshipped facing Jerusalem rather than Mecca. Devout muslims begin every prayer, & indeed every important activity, with the words: "Bismillah Arrahman Arrahim." Every chapter but one of the Koran begins with this same invocation, which may be rendered, "In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate."

  • @BrooklynRagtag CONFUSING? I think it's supposed to be confusing. I think God did it this way to puzzle us & make us THINK & use our brains & discuss civilly. To not follow blindly(though many do) To try to seek out God in our own way because no matter what Humans write or mandate MY belief is this...if you believe in one God then there is only 1. Even Polytheistic faiths have 1 lead creator God. How better to understand your neighbor than to accept & understand the way he or she sees God?

  • @etonks It doesn't sound like you are interested in actually understanding other people's theistic beliefs when you say everyone basically believes the same thing. Polytheism is not the same as monotheism and the god of the Torah has very different requirements of it's followers than the god of Christianity and of Islam. These religions make mutually exclusive claims about the nature of their god or gods.

  • @BrooklynRagtag Clearly you do not know what you are talking about & you are just trolling for an argument. I gave you the opportunity to show that you had some sort of thinking brain but you would rather beat a dead horse. Just because you don't understand doesn't make you right. You are wrong. I've quoted Scholars. I study other religions.I have friends of many faiths & we all discuss it openly, respectfully. Perhaps the "big picture" is out of your comprehension. Whatever gets you through.

  • @etonks I'm sorry. I didn't mean to be rude. I hear the "different name for the same god" statement made often and it seems like a good-natured attempt to be inclusive and accepting, but it simply isn't true. I'll give a specific example: According to orthodox Christianity, the only way to avoid hell is through worshiping Jesus (see John 14:6), meaning Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Humanists, Jains, etc. are all doomed for Hell. This god is incompatible with the god of Islam.

  • @etonks If you want the perspective of an actual Christian theologian on the matter, you can read the author John Piper. In fact, he has an interview about this very subject and you can see him answer this question here on youtube: watch?v=AsfV_Ej_BRY&NR=1

  • @BrooklynRagtag your link doesn't seem to work

  • @humanistheart Youtube won't let you actually type out links in comments. You have to add the youtube[dot]com[forward slash] at the beginning. You could also just look it up the old fashioned way. The video is titled "John Piper - Is the God of the Bible the Same as the God of the Q'uran?" Very interesting to me.

  • @BrooklynRagtag Ah, okay. I will try it again then.

  • have sex babies are born..God left man to do there own destruction(romans1:24) What ever unsaved men do is upto them its there choice have sex have a baby prey to Allah have a baby. reap and sow..

  • Yesterday my daughter stoled her brothers nintendo ds, when I asked her about it she lied to me (after we has already found it under her bed). I talked to here a little about things that are unacceptable as an adult in society and the consequences for this type of act outside the house. Very soon after that she told me she was getting hungry, it was getting close to dinner time so I told her I would start cooking soon..I did..and we ate.

    Her actions were wrong, but I'm still her Father!

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  • Well, my answer for starters is, God doesn't bribe people to come to Him. He doesn't want people to be miserable. And Jeremiah asked God, "Why do you allow good things to happen to bad people." I'm Paraphrasing Check Jeremiah 12 verse 5. Not saying muslims are bad people. Just wrong. As for the baby, God is the reason anything good happens. They may thank Allah all they want and sacrifice all the sheep in their herd, but God unltimately wants them to appreciate what He did for them and love Him.

  • Winter-Hibernating Stage (Babies sleep) there are no signs of growth just the land(baby) being took care of.

    Spring-When things start coming to life (Childhood) the baby starts to play & starts growing,learning & playing.

    Summer-When every thing is maturing or becoming ripe(full of potential) going from child-teen-adult (now you are responsible for your own actions)

    Fall-Death you hit that term of life when you return back to your fetial state and you go back into the womb. Signs

  • ALLAH is the name of God in Arabic. How can you say he hasn't had mercy on them? These people keep the law of God, will he discount them? As I said, religion breeds contempt-Jesus showed compassion to those who erred. As a kindergarden is to an adult, so is religion with one who knows God apart from it. God does not interfere with the affairs of men unless asked- they also choose their religion. He is the judge- not you, not me, and not 'christians'.

  • @IslandMystic "ALLAH is the name of God in Arabic. " It actually translates to 'The God'

  • @humanistheart uhhhh I think I mentioned this on an earlier thread--I spent nearly a decade in the Middle East- I know what it means. Isa is Jesus or Yeshua in Hebrew.

  • Wouldn't you want real friends??? Or friends because of what they can knowingly get from you and that being the main reason for being friends with you? I guess the second reason.

  • Silly question. It rains on both the just & unjust. Earthquakes kill unsaved and saved. In war both saved and unsaved die. In life both unsaved and saved die and have trajedies. It would be silly to assume only christians can have babies, some christian couples cannot. But God wants us to be thankful and let our request be known. It doesn't say he will do them. We know that all births are God ordained because He gives life. If some people worship the sun in the sky should God smite the sun? Next

  • I love your videos! Now if I could just find a way to get some of the christens I know to watch them!! They already think that "satan" has a hand in me. (sigh)

  • You also should repent and seek the living God for if he destroyed the people of old for their disobediance what makes you think you can escape the coming judgement? But now the Messiah has come, Now people CAN come to god and he will forgive them and remember their sins no more and place in them a heart that pleases God, Come to Jesus and you will live! for God showed his true nature through Jesus.

  • You entirely miss the point, pregnancy is a function god enabled to happen through a relationship to the just and the wicked. Though the Babalonians prayed to Moek, though the israelites left god and prayed to the gods of the Amalakites for children health and wealth, God let the rain fall on the just and the unjust alike untill their sin piled up too high because of their DISOBEDIANCE and he wiped them off the land with war famine and catastrophe.

  • @1onetheone "You entirely miss the point, pregnancy is a function God enabled"

    Bull! Pregnancy is the intial step at procreation so that our species as well as any other species survives. The weak die and the strong survive to reproduce. ":Disobedience" or infertility due to "sin" is a reason cooked up by the primitive minds of the spin weavers to try to explain it.

  • ( 1 of 2)Your question supposes that God is trying to prove himself to us. If you think this is what God wants, then why wouldn't He just dispatch Jesus to earth again and have Him show the nail prints in His hands and feet, perform another round of miracles while being interviewed on FOX NEWS. God allows us to believe lies if we want to because He already did send His Son to earth, Jesus performed miracles in full view of thousands, but they rejected Him. They would reject Him today as well.

  • ( 2 of 2)This is why we read in Romans 1:28 that "God gave them over to a reprobate mind" See Romans 1:17-32. Romans 1:17 says in part" the just shall live by faith" God requires faith. You must believe in Him even though you have not seen Him. See also John 20:29, Jesus affirms this same concept. God has done much more than He had to do to try to reach His creation, now His creation must either humble themselves and seek Him, or turn away and call him a liar, there is no middle ground.

  • God may have hardened people's hearts yes but 1: we still own our superego( the ability to tell right from wrong) 2: people have followed there lusts since the first man and woman so we're still in need of judgment and 3: man's soul is his own and God never tampered with it so where it goes is really up to man.

  • What if God just let them have a baby no strings attached. You assume he meant to masquerade as Allah but perhaps he simply... let them have a baby.

  • @seanfenrir

    God is supposed to be a pretty smart guy. You'd think he would've recognized that his "no strings attached" baby would have been seen as a prayer answered by a different God.

    He would've also recognized that this would re-enforce their belief in the false God -- making them even less-likely to convert to the "true" religion later.

    (Would you convert away from a God who had granted you a miracle baby?)

  • @azsuperman01 Tough question. Especially since I never put myself in the position of a person looking to another God for a baby. I don't think I'd ask JEHOVAH for one so it's hard for me to think about this concept. I think God does know that those people will believe in the different God more however God loves the idea of us multiplying. That means he's willing to give them a baby even though they don't know it was from him.

  • @seanfenrir

    He loves the idea of us multiplying more than he loves showing people the path to the truth?

  • @azsuperman01 JEEZ GOOD QUESTION!

  • @seanfenrir IM GOD WHEN I DO THINGS ITS A NO STRINGS DEAL BUT WHEN YOU DO ANYTHING ITS A COSMIC DRAMA FOR ME TO DISECT AND PUNISH OR REWARD YOU DEPENDING rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

  • Romans 9 says that God will have mercy on whom He has mercy, and He will HARDEN whom He HARDENS.

    This is a great question for professing Christians who hold to free will and universal atonement but it does nadda to the actual biblical position.

  • @fivepointbaptist

    That's the tough thing about the Bible, it can be used to defend multiple contradictory positions. Hench the 30,000+ denominations of Christianity who can't agree on Christian doctrine.

  • Why are there 30,000 denoms? Is the problem with the bible or with man? If we took 5 bibles, all the same translation, set them in 5 different rooms and placed 5 seperate people in those rooms and they all came out with diff interp's, where does the problem lie?

    However, you didn't deal with MY response. Romans 9 is clear but "christians" reject it because it "too hard."

  • @fivepointbaptist

    I'd say the problem rests with the author. A good author should be able to get his point across to anyone who reads his book... especially when the book is supposed to be written by a perfect and all-powerful being.

    Not to mention - you don't believe in Free-will, which means each interpretation the 5 people get is a direct result of God giving them that interpretation -- they didn't have the freewill to decipher the meaning themselves.

  • You can put the blame on God all you want but that doesn't reflect the biblical answer which is what we are suppose to be discuusing.

  • @fivepointbaptist

    Actually it does, the Bible says God intentionally confuses people in order to prevent them from understanding the message.

    It's not man's fault if God says he does it intentionally.

    John 12:40 "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted..."

  • @azsuperman01 .... and why do you thinnk God did this.... Its because they wanted "proof", "evidence" that He was God.... God doesn't owe anybody any "proof" or "evidence"

  • @Trumpetz811 Oh no? If I told you I was god you wouldn't want some evidence? And what if I was god and you didn't believe me, and you were cast into hell because of it? Hardly fair.

  • @humanistheart if you told me that you were god I wouldn't even wink at it. I'd be like so what... that's in the bible.

    and if you were god.... it would be my choice to believe it or not.... and if you could cast me into hell.... I'm sure I'd just get out... if you were god. lol

  • @Trumpetz811 No part of your response made any sense. When you're ready to make a cotent post get back to me.

  • Here's my technical answer:

    1. Allah is God right?

    2. Do they even know about Christianity?

    3. God love him some babies.

    4. He helped a lot of ppl that didn't believe, and still didn't believe afterwards.

  • Islam is a cult that was created in the 7th century about 600 years after Christianity and 2400 years after th Jews. Ever hear of free will?

  • @SanctioFides

    Great, now answer the question. Why does God allow events to take place that re-enforce beliefs in false Gods?

    Free-will explains why people are allowed to believe in false Gods, it doesn't explain why the "real" God would do things that bolster false beliefs and make people more likely to be sent to Hell.

  • @azsuperman01 to be fair...in a wacky way, he did answer your question. with a question. see, when you use the word "allow", you're basically asking "why doesn't god prevent...", which WOULD take away free will. i mean...why doesn't god just blow up Quran's left and right? by "allowing" Quran's to exist, that is ALSO amplifying their "false" beliefs.

    also, god doesn't "do" something (like creating a baby). the people reproduced and the sperm/egg worked together successfully.

  • @matt0198922

    Yes, the question could be reworded as "Why doesn't God prevent actions which re-enforce false beliefs?" ... but effecting the outcome of events is not the same as removing freewill.

    Supposedly God answers prayers all the time... if he can affect the outcome of events to foster belief in his followers, then I see no reason why he couldn't do something similar to prevent events that foster false beliefs.

  • i know christians would say this: so we could freely choose. i think of a parent: what's more loving? to never let their kid make mistakes and shelter them, or to teach them but also let them make their own mistakes. i think a christian would say "if god took away all other paraphernalia of other religions, then we wouldn't choose christianity out of love, it'd be out of lack of options."

  • @matt0198922

    I'm not arguing that God should shelter people and prevent them from making mistakes... I'm just asking why he allows events that re-enforce false beliefs.

    A better example would be a parent who allows someone else to pretend to be the parent of the child and when the child orders a DNA test, he allows someone else to falsify it so it comes back positive... then he tortures the kid later for not figuring out the lie on his own.

  • @azsuperman01 true. it'd make much more sense if we didn't burn in hell forever for gambling on the wrong religion. it's like god is saying "i'll torture you forever if you don't pick the right religion...but i'm not gonna make the right one stand out in ANY WAY compared to the rest of the religions"

  • Maybe they should start with their Quran where it says that The Torah and The Gospel are truth. (Surah 3:3-4) The birth of a baby still doesnt solve the problem of sin.

  • People around the world may call God by different names, but the Bible is very clear that Jesus is the only way to come to God, and the only way to go to heaven. Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father but by me" Jesus claimed to be God, and He is the only one that can back up His claims. We also know that the evidence is there to support the Bible, but not other faiths.

  • Jesus never claims to be God, nor does he even claim to be the Son of God. If you can find where Jesus says, I am the son of god, or I am god, please give me this text.

  • There are so many answers to this that I can't even begin to list them. The Jews wanted to stone Jesus because He kept claiming to be God. Do a search online, you will get MILLIONS of web pages.. Here are just a few places. John 8:58 Jesus declared, "I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. (I am is a name for God) "I and my Father are one." John 10:30 John 14:7-10 [7] If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."

  • goofy, When Jesus was asked: "Tell us, are you the son of God?" He answered "yes" He also used the term "I am" He also called God His father, and Abba Father, and made other references. If you research the meaning of these words in context of the language, time and culture you will learn even more. Jesus didn't go around boasting that He was God. He often waited to see what others would discover about Him. His miracles and the authority in which He spoke said a lot.

  • what evidence?

  • How much evidence would you like? It is too numerous to list here. I'll send it to you directly if you like. There have been thousands of books written on the subject. Countless debates have been won against some very intelligent atheists that have tried to "disprove" the Bible.

  • Start with evidence of aany messiah figure being resurected around 33 ad

  • This is not a "tough one" Just another person trying to put God into a box! Who said that God must think like we do? The Bible makes it very clear that God does not, and that his purposes cannot easily be predicted or known. If we knew everything about God, we wouldn't need faith, or God. God also created monkeys, which helps some people believe in evolution. God isn't trying to "trick" us by answering some prayers and not others. He has His reasons, and we simply wont know why.

  • Ok this is getting to be really fun for me.

    Granted not all Christians agree with this but: God is worshiped by different people and in different ways. The God that Christians, Jews, and Muslims worship is arguably the same God, and is just called by a different name.

  • Wow. That IS a tough one!

  • who knows? that child could grow up and become a christian or have children that do. like i said earlier. everything happens for a reason. the fact that were not smart enough to figure it all out is not enough to say its an "abomination". it is simply beyond us.

  • Ya but at that point it's not about the child it's about the people praying. And about everything happening for a reason i find that contridictary to free will because saying something happens for a reason is to me implying that someone had it planed out for it to happen a certain way

  • you cold as easily argue that one who vouchess for the destruction of humanity and their eternl torment controls everything, and good things are just to reinforce evil later

  • Mark 10:

    11And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

    12That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

    Clearly Jesus doesn't want everyone. There are plenty of other passages where God tricks people and hardens their hearts so that they cannot be saved.

  • For Muslims Allah is God.

    Seeing that as example I have to say that the people who find their way to God and who dont find the way to God are CHOSEN.

    Experiences with prayer to false gods doesnt change anything.

  • 2thes2:11 answers this question-next?

  • Good question....obvious answer.

    God does not force anyone away from Himself, that is taken care of by us.

    Your example is flawed. The Muslim couple believed that Allah answered their prayer and enabled them to have a child. Their belief has nothing to do with the fact that if you try continually to have a child it could possibly happen. God put into effect the natural order of procreation and their beliefs do not affect that. They could believe it came from the stork...wouldn't matter

  • LOL those are not christian beliefs, they

    are muslim beliefs, big difference

    buddy!

  • Muslims are more christian

    see for ur self muslims dress like mary and jesus etc

    peac

  • god is only showing them HIS power

  • How? By doing nothing?

  • no, allah is god

  • Your reply had nothing to do with my comment.

  • no, i sed that god is showing them his power and u sed that he was not doing anything. but the video is about god doing nothing while letting allah take credit. wrong because allah and god are the same person. or did u mean something else

  • u useless idiot allah is just the arabic name for god. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahah u idiot lmfao

    how dumb can u be. i am lebanese and allah is my god.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah­ahah

    IDIOT

    another stupid question answered by a 14yr old

  • I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself. Once you hit puberty, then come back and debate this like an intelligent adult.

  • frend, wat about my ansa isnt intelegent ?

    my answer is true and right. why do u treat me differently based on my age? maybe if u had a religion then u would treat evry1 equaly

  • another stupid answer to a challenging question that a 14 yr old is apparently incapable of answering without being an immature bastard.

  • hahaha. the question was answered

  • not properly, and definately NOT by you

  • oh, wat was not proper about my answer

  • even though allah means god, hes a different god from wht the christians believe in.

  • U FOOL, lmao. i'm a christian and i call him allah because thats his name. jesus called god aloho that is wer we got the name allah from. get that through ur head. allah=God.

  • i have never heard of a christian that called god allah before. what type of a christian are you? (catholic, etc etc...?)

  • i'm orthodox but all lebanese christians call him allah. it was his name long before they called him theos or god. also the name allah was used by christians over 900 years before the muslims used it

  • touche

  • lol. u r light hearted compared to the others i have debated with.

  • It doesn't matter how a christian God was/is called - important is, to which God do the muslims actually prey when they say "allah" - and that is not your God, it's theirs. It's like if I had a friend coincidentally named Jesus Brown, you would suddenly yell "U FOOL, it's obvious that when you talk about Jesus getting drunk from a pub, you actually mean Christ". Nope, I would be talking about my friend Brown.

  • yes but wen u insult the name allah it is different because it is in their thoughts that they are the same god and plus allah to them is jehovah who for us is the father. so infact u r teasing the father

  • Nope the god of the Jews, christians and muslims is the same.  They just vary in their made up stories around the god.

  • Sorry, Allah is not Jehova. God is never contradicted in the Bible or Torah, in fact they are one and the same. Allah is very different in nature to Jehova, Allah even denies the Christ!! They are not the same.

  • Allaah is the God of Abraham/Ibrahim and, therefore, is the same as Yahweh/Jehova. Different cultures just made up different stories about him.

  • "God is never contradicted in the Bible or Torah"

    ROFL.

    You are kidding right?

    The OT and NT gods are so radically contradictory, that

    1. The Jews would not accept Jesus based on their own scriptures and what they stated about the Messiah. Jesus did NOT fulfill the prophecies of the Jews.

    2. The earliest Christian Gnostics believed the Jewish god and the Christian god were two different entities, based on nothing more than the many glaring contradictions between the two sources.

  • Here are some prophecies Jesus fulfilled:

    (P)=Prophecy (F)=Fulfillment

    (P)Ge 3:15 (F)Ga 4:4, (P)Mi 5:2 (F)Mt 2:1,

    (P)Is 7:14 (F)Mt 1:18, (P)Den 18:15 (F) Jn 6:14,

    (P)Is 53:3 (F)Jn 1:11, (P)Ze 9:9 (F)Jn 12:13,14

    (P)Ze 11:12 (F)Mt 26:15, (P)Ze 11:13 (F)Mt 27:6,7

    (P)Is 53:5,4 (F)Mt 8:16,17, (P)Is 53:12 (F)Mt 27: 38

    If you are a student of scripture, then you wouldn't have a problem identifying these. If not you have neither biblical proof or example to offer of these "glaring contradictions".

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  • really?how many years have u studied this subject to come up with that?

  • Enough to know it's all bunk. It's just a series of assertions written by bronze-age "holy men". No evidence exists for the veracity of any "holy" scrpiture.

  • You are mistaken. Anyone who takes their God seriously knows this. If my God, YHWH were the same god speaking in the koran (Allah), then I would either be greatly confused or an atheist. Allah, & Jehova are very different in character, desire, judgment, reward, command, etc. If you see the same God in the Bible giving prophecy about the coming Messiah, Jesus Christ, as in the koran denying Christ, then there is obviously a misconception on your behalf. The two are not the same, they differ a lot

  • According to 2 Thessalonians 2:11, YHWH is intentionally deluding these people of other faiths.

    So, if god is capable of deluding others, how can you be certain that Muslims are NOT worshipping him?

    The Quran states that Allah ALSO deludes those given to other "faiths".

    How do you know you have not been given over to a "spirit of delusion", when even the Jewish god can deliver you into it?

    That is three different assertions about the same god, and ALL have different characters.

  • 1.) Because it is a Delusion!

    2.) Because Jesus promised that doing God's will (loving God above all, and loving your neighbor as yourself) would reveal who He is.

    3.) Because God never denied His Son, Jesus Christ, in the Torah or the NT. How many contradictions did you find between the OT and NT. I've studied the bible for years, as well as the Muslim Koran, and I only find contradictions between the Bible and Koran, not the OT and NT.

  • 1. "Every truth is a lie except MY truth." This is your opinion and special pleading, surely.

    2. A "personal god" exists in ALL three faiths. Muslims, Jews, Christians ALL claim god has "revealed" himself to them.

    Muslims-through Mohammed

    Jews-through the Prophets

    Christians-through Jesus

    3. God never denied his son? Really?

    "Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani" ... hmm.

  • Are you just trying to make a point, or do you believe that Jesus was His Son? Forsaking and denial are two different things. Are they the same in Hebrew? Do they have the same connotations and implementations? And if God "denied" His Son on the cross, wouldn't that make the other assertions Jesus made about Himself and the Father true? Jews saw God, Jews saw Jesus, what about allah, no record of that in the Koran is there. I speak to God everyday, and HE SPEAKS BACK. The work of the Holy Spirit

  • God also said "this is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased". Does that count. Every religion claims to be right and calls everyone else wrong. I could care less about religion and what it says, I'm only interested in God's truth.

  • To deny and to forsake both mean "to refuse to acknowledge" or "turn away from".

    No. I do not believe Jesus was the son of god.

    Is it necessary for me to accept Jesus as Moshiach in order to disagree with your assertion that only you, as a Christian are "free from delusion", yet all other faiths are not?

    This is special pleading.

    If a Muslim could not convince you of the truth of Islam with this logic, then why do you think it would work on others when YOU use it?

  • Because it is not my job to convince, only tell the truth. What word was used in Mt 10:33 for "deny". Was it "anathema" ? I only have one special pleading. And that is," repent to the Lord God, for His kingdom is soon coming!! Be washed of your sins, by the blood of Christ, the Lamb of God and be saved. Everyone who reads this, repent and believe!!" My one and only special pleading. Everything else is cookies baby!!!

  • Thanks, but NO thanks.

    I would prefer the cookies, actually.

  • "If you are a student of scripture"

    I am. Of the Bible and the TaNakh.

    Jesus does not match the Moshiach.

    1. Moshiach must uphold and keep the law.

    (Deu 13:1-4)-Jesus clearly falls into the category of "false prophet and miracle worker" which god himself warned of.

    2. Moshiach must come from the tribe of Yehuda.-Jesus was not the son of Joseph, and mother's lines do not apply. A Jewish child cannot be adopted into a tribe.

    3. Moshiach cannot deliver. Only God can.

    (Isa 43:11-13)

  • Jesus said,"I am come to fulfill the law"

    A Jewish child cannot be adopted into a tribe until the 10th generation of the family line is completed. That is what the book of Ruth is about. And Jesus, was part of the fourteenth Generation, according to Matthew.

    Didn't Jesus try turn the Children of Israel to God the Father? In the Gospels, He was concerned with the hearts of men and turning them to God. He was here as Prophet and High Priest, (Hebrews).

  • Reality isn't relative.

  • ?

    Could you be MORE cryptic?

  • LOL. You're the cryptic one if you think simply believing something creates alternate realties that are all equally correct.

  • K, FINE, ALLAH is the Judeo Christian God if that's how we classify it. Muslims just have the wrong idea.

    Anyway, it's up to the Muslim couple to believe what they want in the end, not God. If they're so single minded about what could've happened, that's their fault.

  • Correction allah is not the Bible of the Bible... read Ezekiel 8... you will see which god do the muslems worship. Muslems insist that their god has no sons, but repetedly the God of the Bibles calls us (those who accepted Christ as lord and savior) his Sons.

  • I don't see the relation to this discussion and Ezekiel 8.

    I say the Muslims worship wrong. Actually, I don't really care if someone says they are the same or not, either works in a discussion for me, I can explain both.

    I never said Muslims were included in salvation.

    I SWEAR, I WILL NUETRALIZE ANY THUMBS UP OR DOWN I SEE ON OPINIONS! (too all the other people out there)

  • READ ROMANS 1

  • The example in this case for Allah was actually flawed but only on a semantic basis. Allah is the Judeo-Christian God. Perhaps choose another monotheistic God such as Ahura-Mazda. Or even let's branch out a bit and say Odin did it or Krishna did it. The argument's structure, however, is both sound and valid.

  • replace "muslim" with "hindu" or something, because technically allah is the judeo-christian god.

  • I would love to hear what is your personal opinion on dec 21 2012

  • Great questions. It is about time that we begin to question our beliefs.

  • Such a great question. We are all children of a loving Heavenly Father who desires to bless us. There are universal laws of which if we obey we will receive the affect of obeying those laws. Faith is one such law and those who have faith in something can recieve the blessing they desire. The more we come to know & understand Gods laws the more blessings we will reap. Hence the purpose of the 10 commandments not to restrict but to bless. God lives and loves every person on this earth!!!!!!!

  • Ao, the omnipotent god CAN'T "bless us" unless WE do something? What does OMNIPOTENT mean, again?

  • God blesses those who are in right standing with him, or you want Him to bless the devil as well only because he is OMNIPOTENT? You don't even know what the word blessing means...

  • Peaceliberty4all said "God loves everyone but CAN'T bless you unless you have faith". If one CAN'T do something, one is not omnipotent. You are saying god CAN, but WON'T bless everyone, which means it isn't omnibenevolent, but places conditions on its blessing.

  • the bible says the it rains on the just as well as the unjust. to say God can't do something does not sacrifice his omnipotence. He can't sin. he can't make square circles. he can't make a rock to big to move.

  • they sacrefice a sheep... and they are worshipin a demon... all muslim are blinded by the devil. if u sell ur self to the devil he can get u anythin you want....but god is more powerful. with him its the right path... they obiously got that babe from the devil. because they have wordship him and everything...

  • MLGprobusta - So God lets Satan answer prayers? I guess he doesn't really want to direct people to the "true" religion.

  • Those muslims are muslims coz they are born in a muslim family....and u are a christian coz u were born in christian family..so wts the truth..if u were born in a muslim family u wud also blindly believe in Allah....

  • So the devil must be as much of an impotent pussy as god, or the muslims wouldn't have to resort to blowing themselves up to get their way.

  • because hell is gods other favorite pet project, other than everyone sucking him off.

    venomfagx is right about anything and everything, as long as he thinks or says it.

    AND HE ISNT GAY!!!

  • God blesses unbelievers out of His own goodness and grace. All blessings come from God. The longer men continue in their sin and don't recognize God's presence in their lives, the more wrath they treasure up on themselves. Man has an obligation to seek the truth and not to be deceived by false religions. The penalty for being deceived is eternal life in the lake of fire. Where do you stand?

  • Allah is "not" a false god it is the arabic word for God, It just that the media and the goverment to translate eveything in order to demonise thew muslim faith because of 9/11

  • but because the word means "God" in english, does not mean its the same god, are you saying that your faith is the same as theirs because the word means the same in your language?

  • It is the same God. Muslims do not believe in a different god, rather they believe Mohamed was a prophet and changed and several other differences but they believe that God is God. The same (one and only) God of the Jews and Christians.

  • why do we have to fight over this crap on youtube?

  • #1) God intended for sex to yield children. That won't change regardless of the right or wrong thinking of the people involved.

    #2) One thing we've failed to ponder on this far is the rapture.

    When Billions of people vanish, a lot of people will know what has happened. One very thinkable effect of the rapture is that World religion is going to take a huge hit reducing us to only one wrong answer at which point you can accept it...or reject it.

    Bless You!

  • I completely agree with your point #1, except for the fact that it was God-intended, of course.

    You basically just undermined the purpose of prayer: events are going to happen, as they have been for many many years, regardless of prayer. Thank you for clearing this up!

  • No actually I didn't undermine the purpose of prayer...

    I could get into this with you but it's deep...I need to know if you really care!!!

  • Oh you didn't?

    Well I'll spare you a few punches of the keyboard and be honest: no I don't really care because I know what you're most likely going to say. I've heard all the same meaningless answers before.

  • Okay well there you go...

    So we know what you came here for!

    Bless You Bruh!

  • 2 Timothy 4:3

  • The same reason the tower of babel was destroyed. In the bible it teaches "With faith anything is possible!" So the couple had so much faith that they eventually did get a child. Allah and Jehovah had nothing to do with it. Besides there is another saying, "Keep on digging for gold and you will eventually find some" Or something like that, Anyway although not a bible phrase it's still true.

    If I went looking all over the earth for a cat, Some day I would find one.

  • If with faith anything is possible, then Gods power must truely be unlimited. If we hath faith as small as a mustard seed we shalt move mountains.Ask , it shalt be given unto you.

    So if 1 billion christians were to ask for a mountain to move, the mountain would rip up and shift. Nahh, cos thats not really a prayer in good faith. What about 200000 Christians praying for the suffering of people in cambodia? 300 Xtians praying for a churchmembers 2 year old girl to recover from a brain tumour?

  • He now lives in skyland, a magical place we cant see, hear or travel to, where he lives with himself and his own ghost. if we mutter thoughts in our heads he might choose to help us as he sees everything we do , there again- he might not, if he wishes to test our faith. We cant test his reality. If we really want to see him, we either have to die, or we can eat his flesh and drink his blood as he jumps in and out of crackers and booze when a guy in a hat says magic words in latin.