Gary Payton is certainly not given the recognition he deserves. I would still say Magic is the best PG of all time, but if I were to pick a team that included Jordan/Bird(among others) I would want Payton at the starting pg if only for his defensive abilities.
Nice...I think he would be better than any PG right now, CP3 would be just like him if he was 4 or 5 inches taller, but he isn't, and D-Will isn't the defensive or offensive force he was...I think I'd take a prime GP over any PG in the league now to since you mention it...Plus he's just a funny dude, and great trash talker.
@Zennairrr .... john stockton shoots over 50% in his career....but he shoots .421% vs gary payton.. marbury shot 22-72 .306% in the 98 playoffs vs payton kevin johnson shot 26-88 .295% in the 97 playoffs vs payton iverson and rose cannot contain great pgs like payton can.... in michael jordans lowest scoring finals games,payton was his main defender.... 97 vs k.johnson payton 25.4 ppg kj- 16.8 ppg 98 vs marbury payton 26.0 ppg marbury- 13.8 ppg ...paytons defense was tenacious
@Zennairrr ...bball not only defense?....r u forgetting gary payton has over 20,000 career pts and alomst 9,000 assists?....here is what im saying...
payton- 20 ppg 8 apg
k.johnson- 20 ppg 8 apg
those are made up stats,but my point is that while gary could get 20 and 10 vs the defense of kj,kj would not reach his average vs payton...
r u forgetting payton hit the game winning shot in the nba finals in 2006 in game 3?....only oscar robertson and allen iverson had more pts as point guards
@mjpipkid ....i dont know why george karl didnt put payton on jordan in the first half of that series....gary was defensive player of the year that yr,and jordan was scoring champ....it just makes no sense that he wasnt guarding him
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You don't have a dick bitch - you probably have a 1-inch clit and you fantasize about getting it sucked by men though, no doubt there. Yeah, post a pic - wtf is that going to prove fucktard? Hey I'll post a pic of Jordan and say that I know him and hang with him. Again, go get your pussy fucked by your pet chihuahua and get off your mom's computer. Bitch fucktard, waste of your dad's sperm. Yeah, fuck you, you're lame and your bragging is lamer - try again cock-lover.
You could choke that fool out when hes a baby if you had it in ya....but Yeah, If I had a time Machine I would watch jay in his Prime...and I would Bring Kobe with me put him on the 91 lakers and see whos better in their prime..no more speculation lol
u fucking idiot u cant do shit with the time machine cause u cant change the past. all u can do is spectate. if u change 1 little thing in the past the future will change...chaos theory kiddo
in a good way i think payton was the cockiest point guard but he sure could back it up. in my mind he is in the top ten point guards of all time but i think stockton was always better than him
i don't care what anybody says...if i had to choose, Kidd, Stockton, or Payton in their primes, it would be Payton HANDS DOWN...He is the only 1 of the three that could pass, PLAY INCREDIBLE DEFENSE AND SCORE AT WILL...I will take a scoring point guard over a pure passing point guard any day...so Gary, you want me to make that call to Mr. Stern about that HOF selection now or later...lol
You are going to sit up here and say stockton couldn't pass and kidd couldn't pass you must 25yrs or under or live in seattle. And another thing my man Stern doesn't have anything to do with the hall of fame process
dude, let me explain...all 3 are extremely great passers, which is why i didn't emphasize "passing" in my last post...i guess you didn't catch that...i emphasized the words "DEFENSE AND SCORE AT WILL" because Payton did it much better than the other two, ALONG with putting other guards in the post...and about the Stern comment, i was being sarcastic...besides, after D.Wilkins didn't make it the first yr & S.Moncrief hasn't gotten in, i lost respect for the HOF...lol
Ok, that was my fault i didn't see the comma in the sentence when i first read so that was my bad. Let me ask you if you were a GM in today's game who would you take as your point guard?
Yes Sir, those are some 12's. Too bad Jordan didnt give him PE's until later on in his career. He wouldve had some straight SICK PE's with the 94-95 Sonic Throwback Jerseys.
To be the greatest PG, don't you actually have to BE A PG? Iverson is obviously a great player, but by far he played more minutes at the off guard. He's still starting at the 2 for denver.
top ten assists all time means you're an elite playmaker, period. I love how his career totals don't matter because he "hung around" but you also bring up his career average which could have been much better, except he "hung around" to help Miami win a championship as a reserve. By the way, if he had retired THREE YEARS EARLIER than he did, he would still be #7 assists all time and his career averages would be considerably better. By any measure, Gary "matched-up" nicely with "elite playmakers."
Payton was a good playmaker, but not great. That's why he never averaged more than 8.987804878 assists in a season (2002), and even if he'd retired in 2004 (pre-Miami and Boston), his career assists average would have been 7.2, merely the fourteenth-highest average from 1991-2004.
Payton was a great all-around guard, but not a great playmaker. He was a very good scorer, a great defender, a good rebounder, and a good playmaker.
Payton is a deserving future Hall of Famer, so I'm not knocking him. It's just that when you line up the assists averages of Payton versus certain contemporaries such as John Stockton, Kevin Johnson, Jason Kidd, and even Tim Hardaway at times (plus Steve Nash at the end), Payton comes up short of their playmaking greatness. Payton was an elite guard, but not quite an elite playmaker.
I honestly never heard that before...cankles. Learn something new every day! But where would I look that up anyway? It wouldn't be in the dictionary, right? Anyway, I was just kidding about Gary Payton...he's a great player. Hey, is it true he might be coming back?
he had discussions with some teams but those were just rumors. besides he already got a ring so not much else to come back for somost likely he will remain retired.
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please! anyone know where I can find pictures of GP with the award for defensive player of the year?, who won in 1996.
kiki141414 3 months ago in playlist gp20
not only his offence,
he had the nicest defence ever
afg248 6 months ago
Kidd > Payton
madhazzer 6 months ago
sorry ass defense.
Christlovesanimals 8 months ago
sux. if payton was still in the NBA, Stern would have to make a rule for no toleration on the glove >.>
kerboy90006 10 months ago
HAHA why is fisher always that one getting schooled LOL
gamevirus01 10 months ago
holy shit, do they still use those fast break clocks? i don't think they do.
yeon723 11 months ago
I make NBA Mixes with so much passion but noone watches them...could anyone in here give me a comment at least?
KingKoltAir 1 year ago
@KingKoltAir no one watches them cuz ther fucking cack
yourmanGoozabean 1 year ago
Gary Payton is certainly not given the recognition he deserves. I would still say Magic is the best PG of all time, but if I were to pick a team that included Jordan/Bird(among others) I would want Payton at the starting pg if only for his defensive abilities.
Amir883 1 year ago
Payton's the only PG that can play Small Forward AND SG
wcmaster26 1 year ago
@wcmaster26 magic?
playap23 9 months ago
gary had a contract withh nike for a wile but when he whent to la. he switched to jordans and when he whent to miami he whent back to nike
85timmeh 1 year ago
well remember id rather have a team thats a good defensive team rather then a good offensive team
85timmeh 1 year ago
GP best pg of the 90's, one of the greatest pg's ever.
kuroza13 2 years ago
the shoes paytojn is wearing are the glove from nike.i had a pair of his signature shoe in 1999.i seen them retro at nike town in london today.
brazza1982 2 years ago
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is it just me or doesn't he take like four steps after that first dribble?
alax1219 2 years ago
This is the NBA!
And there is The Glove!
MdeMoUcH 2 years ago
just you
yoe91 2 years ago
They're the Jordan 12's right?
619xD 2 years ago
Man I'd take gp over any point guard in the nba right now.
The1stFishBone 2 years ago 25
Nice...I think he would be better than any PG right now, CP3 would be just like him if he was 4 or 5 inches taller, but he isn't, and D-Will isn't the defensive or offensive force he was...I think I'd take a prime GP over any PG in the league now to since you mention it...Plus he's just a funny dude, and great trash talker.
DB3HEAT 2 years ago 3
Ima still go for Allen Iverson on his best
and Derrick Rose is getting good also
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shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago 2
That's right ,
but basketball is not only defence .
Payton was a great player , but if i was a coach , i shouldn't let Payton take the big shots in overtime ,
I think it's just a different type of player :)
that's just my opinion
Zennairrr 1 year ago
@Zennairrr ...bball not only defense?....r u forgetting gary payton has over 20,000 career pts and alomst 9,000 assists?....here is what im saying...
payton- 20 ppg 8 apg
k.johnson- 20 ppg 8 apg
those are made up stats,but my point is that while gary could get 20 and 10 vs the defense of kj,kj would not reach his average vs payton...
r u forgetting payton hit the game winning shot in the nba finals in 2006 in game 3?....only oscar robertson and allen iverson had more pts as point guards
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago 2
2006 nba finals?
mjpipkid 1 year ago
as much of a jordan fan as i am you wonder if george karl would've put gary on mike the entire series instead of the latter part of the series
mjpipkid 1 year ago
@mjpipkid ....i dont know why george karl didnt put payton on jordan in the first half of that series....gary was defensive player of the year that yr,and jordan was scoring champ....it just makes no sense that he wasnt guarding him
shaqpopcorn34 1 year ago
@The1stFishBone lol what a stupid comment
Chrischi7777 1 year ago
@Chrischi7777 Care to explain?
JSqAuD14 9 months ago
@The1stFishBone derek rose? chris paul? i donno bud...
DroppinKnowledge69 6 months ago
gp!
fivethreeone 2 years ago
Payton is tha man
Korver101 2 years ago
4 fucking seconds man! wow!
yoitsgiook 2 years ago
i know gary paytons son, he go 2 my school in vegas
1REGGIEBUSH 3 years ago
yeah, right. shut the fuck up. get off your mom's computer.
biliev1 2 years ago
ahhh haha good one bro
ZoomZip 2 years ago
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suck my dik bitch,& yea i do know him, ill post a pic u garbage motherfucker!!!!he live in vegas
1REGGIEBUSH 2 years ago
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You don't have a dick bitch - you probably have a 1-inch clit and you fantasize about getting it sucked by men though, no doubt there. Yeah, post a pic - wtf is that going to prove fucktard? Hey I'll post a pic of Jordan and say that I know him and hang with him. Again, go get your pussy fucked by your pet chihuahua and get off your mom's computer. Bitch fucktard, waste of your dad's sperm. Yeah, fuck you, you're lame and your bragging is lamer - try again cock-lover.
biliev1 2 years ago
haha. Keep fighting, you'll entertain everyone.
Maybe you had an off day or something. haha
patsfan2000 2 years ago
was payton wearing Jordan 12's?
dimedropper1992 3 years ago
Lowkey nipple twist on the ref at 0:23
tghetto5 3 years ago 2
man, i miss watching this so much
if i only had a time machine...
heartyhoopz1184 3 years ago 2
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If you had a time machine you would go watch basketball? why not Murk off adolf Hitler or something?
tghetto5 3 years ago
haha everyone says that, yet its pretty well documented that murking off hitler was impossible.
and yeah, id go watch one of the greatest players in history play in his prime...again...
epescially in the 96' finals against jordan and the bulls...
good shit right there...
heartyhoopz1184 3 years ago
You could choke that fool out when hes a baby if you had it in ya....but Yeah, If I had a time Machine I would watch jay in his Prime...and I would Bring Kobe with me put him on the 91 lakers and see whos better in their prime..no more speculation lol
tghetto5 3 years ago
well there is a lot possible with a time machine, isnt there...
heartyhoopz1184 3 years ago
yeah we should build one...
tghetto5 3 years ago
u fucking idiot u cant do shit with the time machine cause u cant change the past. all u can do is spectate. if u change 1 little thing in the past the future will change...chaos theory kiddo
AsianMinister 3 years ago
Shut up man, you just ruined it.
tghetto5 3 years ago 2
CP3 Sr...
IversonLebronTv 3 years ago
haha...well..."BEST" maybe not...but certainly ONE OF THE BEST in NBA history.
EmilTowersIV 3 years ago
Its because he was rockin the Son of Gloves.
206Biz 3 years ago
isn't that a carry?
spitgiezer 3 years ago
on of the best the game has ever seen and my personal favorite, him and kobe
theGOODdyeYOUNG 3 years ago
cp3 reminds me of gp20
BigDaddyG13 3 years ago
i know he does a lot they both get plenty of assist
IversonLebronTv 3 years ago
For a short guard, shit for any guard GP was top 10!
cmomofilm 3 years ago 3
payton was the man!
imsickwithit1990 3 years ago 2
i think is more looks like 1 againts 3~4
turtleliang777 3 years ago
in a good way i think payton was the cockiest point guard but he sure could back it up. in my mind he is in the top ten point guards of all time but i think stockton was always better than him
bigboilefty22 3 years ago
WOW! What a move! GP was so fun to watch!
JMCGP20 3 years ago 2
i don't care what anybody says...if i had to choose, Kidd, Stockton, or Payton in their primes, it would be Payton HANDS DOWN...He is the only 1 of the three that could pass, PLAY INCREDIBLE DEFENSE AND SCORE AT WILL...I will take a scoring point guard over a pure passing point guard any day...so Gary, you want me to make that call to Mr. Stern about that HOF selection now or later...lol
db32585 3 years ago 26
that's true, GP at his best was better than Stockton and Kidd...
bossu3konn 3 years ago 7
You are going to sit up here and say stockton couldn't pass and kidd couldn't pass you must 25yrs or under or live in seattle. And another thing my man Stern doesn't have anything to do with the hall of fame process
jrizzle51 3 years ago
dude, let me explain...all 3 are extremely great passers, which is why i didn't emphasize "passing" in my last post...i guess you didn't catch that...i emphasized the words "DEFENSE AND SCORE AT WILL" because Payton did it much better than the other two, ALONG with putting other guards in the post...and about the Stern comment, i was being sarcastic...besides, after D.Wilkins didn't make it the first yr & S.Moncrief hasn't gotten in, i lost respect for the HOF...lol
db32585 3 years ago
Ok, that was my fault i didn't see the comma in the sentence when i first read so that was my bad. Let me ask you if you were a GM in today's game who would you take as your point guard?
jrizzle51 3 years ago
@db32585 what can you say about GP and nash?
xxxheat 1 year ago
i think he was wearing Air GP zoom II...it was 1999
bossu3konn 3 years ago 5
omg is he wearing jordan's?
dimedropper1992 3 years ago 2
Yes Sir, those are some 12's. Too bad Jordan didnt give him PE's until later on in his career. He wouldve had some straight SICK PE's with the 94-95 Sonic Throwback Jerseys.
rash33d43 3 years ago
he is so good
hellofoos 3 years ago 2
Art in motion ...GP
bossu3konn 3 years ago 3
shush man
biszle34 3 years ago 2
wow faster than the suns players. way faster than run and gun players
stockgar2000 3 years ago
I lov this guy ... too strong ;)
shyriu1980 3 years ago 3
joekiddlouisschama: You seem to be presenting only 1 SIDE OF THE STORY:
Although Payton never got as many assists as other players u mention, he averaged
ONLY 2.27 TURNOVERS/GAME!!! UNLIKE KIDD'S 3.19/GAME & K JOHNSON'S 3/GAME & STOCKTON'S 2.82/GAME
PLUS, PAYTON SHOT ALMOST 47% FROM THE FIELD, COMPARED TO KIDDS HORRIBLE 40% AND HARDAWAYS MEDIOCRE 43%
THEREFORE, PAYTON IS A VERY ELITE PLAYMAKER B/C HE DID MORE THAN JUST GET ASSISTS: HELD ONTO THE BALL AND SCORED EFFICIENTLY
billyvanbvb 3 years ago 2
clay bennett is nothing but a liar and thief.
Gary payton made the sonics in the 90s and clay bennett is just jackin the whole lo Pleeease America, help Save OUR sonics
saveoursonics94 3 years ago 2
All about the GLOVE
zSTICKMATIC 3 years ago 5
yeap, if not the greatest, he was surely one of the greatest
ericthegreen3 3 years ago 4
in mine, A.I.
EckoRhino21 3 years ago
To be the greatest PG, don't you actually have to BE A PG? Iverson is obviously a great player, but by far he played more minutes at the off guard. He's still starting at the 2 for denver.
Whatchagonado 3 years ago 2
Iverson is a combination guard, but neither he nor Payton match-up with the best in terms of elite playmaking.
joekiddlouischama 3 years ago
Nonsense. Payton is #7 all time in assists.
Whatchagonado 3 years ago
... partly because he hung around forever. Payton never averaged more than 9.0 assists in a season and his career average is below 7.0.
joekiddlouischama 3 years ago
top ten assists all time means you're an elite playmaker, period. I love how his career totals don't matter because he "hung around" but you also bring up his career average which could have been much better, except he "hung around" to help Miami win a championship as a reserve. By the way, if he had retired THREE YEARS EARLIER than he did, he would still be #7 assists all time and his career averages would be considerably better. By any measure, Gary "matched-up" nicely with "elite playmakers."
Whatchagonado 3 years ago
Payton was a good playmaker, but not great. That's why he never averaged more than 8.987804878 assists in a season (2002), and even if he'd retired in 2004 (pre-Miami and Boston), his career assists average would have been 7.2, merely the fourteenth-highest average from 1991-2004.
Payton was a great all-around guard, but not a great playmaker. He was a very good scorer, a great defender, a good rebounder, and a good playmaker.
joekiddlouischama 3 years ago
Payton is a deserving future Hall of Famer, so I'm not knocking him. It's just that when you line up the assists averages of Payton versus certain contemporaries such as John Stockton, Kevin Johnson, Jason Kidd, and even Tim Hardaway at times (plus Steve Nash at the end), Payton comes up short of their playmaking greatness. Payton was an elite guard, but not quite an elite playmaker.
joekiddlouischama 3 years ago
so fast!
vkenv 4 years ago 3
gp used to be sick man
SUPERBOY6 4 years ago 3
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now he's fucking faggot
smittyzola 4 years ago
i wouldn't go that far
SUPERBOY6 4 years ago 2
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he's not good, and hasn't been for nearly 8-10 years - he was good at one point though, but he nearly ruined the Celtics (even worse)!
smittyzola 4 years ago
well as u get older ur skills deteriorate that's with everyone but miami wouldn't have won the championship without him
SUPERBOY6 4 years ago
i suppose...i'm a celtics fan and he was TERRIBLE for us...still, overall, he was one of the best no doubt
smittyzola 4 years ago
I heard Stockton is an ass in person
initialvie 4 years ago
Stockton's relatives who live near me certainly fit the bill of ***es
allblingedout 4 years ago
i heard stockton likes mens asses
smittyzola 4 years ago
no, he would school you and chew your head off
phcool777 4 years ago 2
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I could school him.
canary120202 4 years ago
lets see u get ur fat ass out of ur moms basement and go try and ill laugh when he breaks both of ur fat cankles off
Dirknowitzness41 4 years ago
Speaking od school...what are cankles?
canary120202 4 years ago
when ur so fat u have no ankles its just calf and fott lmao how do u not no that and its not old school look it up
Dirknowitzness41 4 years ago
I honestly never heard that before...cankles. Learn something new every day! But where would I look that up anyway? It wouldn't be in the dictionary, right? Anyway, I was just kidding about Gary Payton...he's a great player. Hey, is it true he might be coming back?
canary120202 4 years ago
he had discussions with some teams but those were just rumors. besides he already got a ring so not much else to come back for somost likely he will remain retired.
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nigger
kobe24or8or81 4 years ago
racist muthafuckin kobe lover. id like to see you say that to his face he' kick your country ass
Dirknowitzness41 4 years ago 5
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i kill mofos like u...KKK
kobe24or8or81 4 years ago
thats why you goin to hell you white trash cunt
Dirknowitzness41 4 years ago 3
c'mon now respect gary...one of the great pg's of the game.
Dfins79 4 years ago 3
better then stocotn wackss assssssssss
blkdc2 4 years ago 2
stockton was the best passer of all time, so that's debatable.
Dfins79 4 years ago
he was sickkkkkkkkkkkkkk
sup3rb0y22 4 years ago
fav player best point gaurd
goinganto 4 years ago 2
dayum
hphs50 4 years ago
WHOA!!! they dont call him the glove 4 nothing
Congo4life 4 years ago
they called him the glove because he played great defense
mrtozo 4 years ago 6
he used to dunk dumass!
2Ruthless07 4 years ago
nope...he even said he was too cool to dunk...
tonybac 4 years ago
he was the best pointguard in the league far and away at that time.
gocelts34n7 4 years ago 3
damn he was the fucking man back then...the glove is back
QuickSilva12 4 years ago 2
the glove the best point guard in the 90's sorry stockton but in the 90's it was all about gary the glove payton hall of famer nba legend
falkner23 4 years ago 4
he's da fuckin man
Phyoomz 4 years ago 3
GP BABY!
felixmendelssohn 5 years ago 3