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  • not even police can find it after wiping?

  • @JackHaynes30

    I would suggest that the police do not have the very latest technology (in fact are fair bit behind) due to budgets. But in traditional hard drives a single wipe is enough. With SSD drives there is a bit of talk on the subject, and some interesting papers on the subject

  • Great video, thanks!

    I plan on using dban to wipe my hard drive before using the recovery disks to reinstall the operating system. I'm doing this to give my brother a working computer, while preventing his buddies from getting hold of any of my sensitive data.

    Would you recommend this method, or do you know of a better way?

    Thanks again for your video and any advice you can give!

  • I used program File Shredder for the first time last week. Before that I would just use Recycle Bin to get rid of unwanted files / programs.

    I used option Shred Free Disk Space and use File Shredder directly to destroy all unwanted files / programs from now on. Does that mean everything that has ever been deleted from my computer is now unrecoverable?

    Or do I literally have to have the entire hard drive wiped clean (baby out with the bathwater option) for that to happen?

  • Wiping a file will with file shredder or the like will destroy that file, but only the contents of that file in that location. Opening and closing a file creates pointers to the file, registry entries, and copies of the content are stored on the hard drive elsewhere (only for temporary purposes but fragments can still be recovered). These fragments, pointers and registry may not be wiped, and therefore evidence you had that file, and "possibly" some of the contents can still be recovered.

  • Would multiple Shred Free Disk Space sessions eventually destroy those fragments, pointers and registry entries?

    If no, are there ways to destroy those fragments, pointers and registry entries manually or with another free program online?

    Thank you for answering my questions.

  • If a file exists in location X and you then overwrite data at X it is destroyed. Overwriting data at X over and over again makes no difference (despite the hype). However, if you have pointers, links or references, to the file e.g the recent documents in windows, those are not deleted as they are not at X, they are in a different file, in a different location, and Windows stores links in numerous locations. For this reason its very hard to remove all evidence of a file without wiping the drive.

  • hey i have a quick question about securely erasing a hard drive, i will be selling my hard drive at one point and i want to make sure that all sensative data is destroyed, so i will be doing a secure disc erase where all data is over written a few times with random data, will this also include the MFT and essentially secure delete 100% of the data on my drive? or is there something i will be missing? overwriting the data X amount of times is unrecoverable right?

  • You just need to conduct one wipe of the entire physical hard drive. i.e. from the very begining to the very end. Issues like the MFT are not relevant, because if the drive is wiped its wiped, regardless of files system. E.g NTFS, FAT, etc

  • right thanks, so what you're saying is it should cover the entire platter(s)?

    just out of curiosity i heard that this process can be reversed, is that true? it seems like a silly question considering the data written over the top is random.

  • There is a common myth that you can undo a complete wipe - this is simply not true. I have covered this on my site, and SANs have a very good article showing that technically, its just not possible.

  • oh, and do you know any alternatives to encase that can analyze and possibly even edit file slack? i tried winhex but it dosnt seem to recognise file slack.

  • WinHex can certainly see file slack. Rember file slack is just data/hex we define as slack, its just hex on a hard drive. If your editor can see the drive, it can see the file and the slack

  • thanks, i thought as much when it came to recovering securely erased data.

    i never really got to grips with winhex, i only gave it a quick testrun, i was opening files directly instead of the sectors/clusters that contained them, so i was only seeing the hex for those particular documents. i'll do a bit of reading on it. cheers mate, ill check out your site later :)

  • Thanks, i thought as much when it came to recovering securely erased data.

    ill have to give the manual a proper read because i was opening the documents themselves instead of the sector/cluster they were contained in, so i was only seeing the hex for that document.

    thanks, ill do a bit of reading and ill check out your site later.

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