Of course God isn't fair. And he doesn't have to be. I mean, holy shit, he's GOD. He can kick my ass, your ass, and everyone else's ass at the same time just by blinking an eye. He does what he wants, because he CAN.
@iTritton Like I said, because he can. Think it about it. If you had the power to do, well..ANYTHING, do you honestly think you would worry about what "insects" get hurt during your plans? You would have a goal set up, and some people would be elevated in life to help attain that goal, while some people will get crushed along the way. When you walk down the street rushing to work and step on an ant, do you stop, stay, "OH NO!" turn around and tend to the ant? No, you keep going. So does God.
Just like animals aren't held for something they don't understand people should not be held accountable for not understanding God whether we have a soul or not
@sjd198302 If he wanted people to only worship him then he should've stripped satan of his powers when he was cast out of heaven. How in the world does an omnipotent being allow a fucking talking serpent to doom his beloved mankind. Also, if lucifer was god's prodigal angel, how did he end up being cast out. I mean this was in heaven, so how the fuck did sin get into lucifer. It makes no sense. God sucks ass. Life without him would be great because then there will be no life.
Fuck god!!! He creates people with sin then punishes those people for sinning. I dont give a fuck who he is, he has no right to create a person, make em live miserably through life and turn around and send them to ultimate misery just because they picked up habits that would never exist if it weren't for him.
@MDDLFNGZ2YA: Does God create people with sin, or does he create people with free will and the ability to sin if the choose to? God doesn't send people to hell; people send themselves there by rejecting Him and chosing to live without Him. What is God to do? Force people against their will to be with Him for eternity when they reject Him and fight tooth and nail to get Him out of their lives? The ultimate misery(hell) is living an existance without God, and it's our choice.
@sjd198302 It wouldn't be a bad idea for him to force people against their will to be with him. Hell he forces people to live against their will. Nobody chooses whether they live life or not. We gotta deal with war, famine, earthquakes, etc. People are being constantly fucked over by life because of the circumstances they were given by god. He claims to be extremely benevolent but creates a place called hell to send the people he "loves" that chose another path.
I dont believe gods not required-to save anyone from the mess they put themselves in. Mothafucka if he's god he's the ultimate cause he put everyone into
Man, i feel horribly terrified that God doesn't have to save us from annihilation. God is so absolute that no one can refute the decision of his to send people to hell. We desperately need gods help and not our own strength.
@300pzl God doesn't have to give us salvation, but he has through Christ for he loves us. Jesus tells us not fear. Salvation is a gift by grace through faith in Jesus Christ not by works, so no man shall boast. Don't worry trust in God the father, Jesus Christ the son of God, and the Holy Ghost whom was given to us.
Why is it that God never speak for him self, but leave it to countless preachers (with various intentions) to defend and interpret the bible on his behalf? As for fairness --- if you ever thank god for a miracle, you are grateful to someone who practise differential treatment to all those less fortunate (or just plain lucy?) than you. Is that fair?
This guys sounds like an unauthorized spoke person on who's behalf is he speaking of? What are interest in which you want to protect? People progress, God exits and he is the almighty I never disprove this point but it seems to me that is always easy to cage conservatism on to others that are trying to build better on what is possible!
God is already going far beyond His personal responsibility towards us.
Our choices, sinful or saintly, are ours alone. God does not ever take away the reactions for saintly actions, but He does take away the reactions for certain sinful actions. He's under no obligation to do that, just as you don't have that obligation to me, and I don't have that obligation to you.
You are responsible for your own behavior and its reactions, not God.
if god is not required to forgive everyone then he is an asshole,hes created us,we didnt ask for this,hes required to do so,its his responsability just as a father is responsible for raising and mantaining his kid,and even we have our limitations,he has no limitations hes all powerful he can do whatever he wants,he doesnt get tired,sad,frustrated or worried,it is his major responsability to forgive us and even more yet knowing that when he created us this would happen,it was his mistake not ours
Wow all the hate. I guess your sense of morality is far superior to that of the Christian God. BTW, where does that morality come from? Why should anyone listen to you?
If you think it is wrong to torture puppies, where did you get that idea from?
In fact, if there's *any* kind of life, that automatically means there's a God. There's never been a design without a designer, there's never been a building without a builder, and there's never been art without an artist.
Unfair, Jealous, Paranoid, Ego Maniacal, Murderous, Inflicts unlimited torture for limited offenses (including those of which you had no knowledge or control) ....But he LOVES YOU! Id rather be "loved" by Hitler. At least Hitler can die.
This video doesn't make sense. Question: does God have the obligation to be fair? I say YES! Why? For example, if you have a sibling, do you think your parents should love your sibling more than you? I am sure you will be really sad and depressed if you don't get the same amount of love as your sibling. And God, as our maker, should be able to distribute same portion of love and happiness to everyone. God is indeed unfair in my opinion.
What a bunch of rhetorical horse manure! This is just another blind faith-head who attempts to play with words along with your emotions. I agree that we humans are emotional beings, but that doesn't make us slaves to inoculations. Why do we believe in the words that came from someone who claims to talk to the divine being?Doesn't it seem a bit odd to you that aboriginals also do the same thing?History repeats itself;the 1st time as a comedy;the 2nd time as a farce.Please,let it not be a tragedy.
First of all, it depends on how you define intelligence. Among the Big Five Factors of human personailty characteristics, intelligence is the most intangible concept. Besides, as a biologist AND a person of faith myself, I'm absolutely abhorred to see someone forcing their version of religion upon others, including the "uncivilized" aboriginals. How pathetic it is to talk about aboriginal standing before God's trial with that kind of certainty
This is interesting how you use the word "forcing." I don't see speaking on a video as "forcing" anyone to do anything. If they are convinced by the arguments, does that make them "forced" into believing? What is the point of any dialog then? If this is abhorrent to you, then why did you ever listen to your biology professors?
I just bought a dozen puppies - I own them, they BELONG to me. They're really cute, but most of them are less grateful than I think they should be, and some even fail to obey me. So I'm gonna put them in a metal garbage can, sprinkle them with gasoline, and burn them. Not all at once, just a little every day to see how long I can keep them squealing and squirming. I'm not God so it won't be for ever, but I'll do my best... Hey, I love 'em!
A man in South America, who has never even heared of a "Bible" or "God", he still lives in a forest with his family, now listen to this, a rival tribe kills him and his family, they see your god, and he damns them to hell for not accepting something that they were not offered in the first place, they burn in hell forever, the man seeing his family getting thier insides ripped out every day for the rest of time by demons, yeah really fucking fair.
So a buddhist monk who has led a good life of chastity and never hurt a living sole is straight away condemned to hell, just because he has chosen the wrong "God" to worship? or will he be judged on his merits like the person who has not sinned but never heard the word of God?
Great video and to think that a lot of people have the privilege of hearing the gospel all the time and yet they continue to reject God's offer of forgiveness.
Of course God isn't fair. And he doesn't have to be. I mean, holy shit, he's GOD. He can kick my ass, your ass, and everyone else's ass at the same time just by blinking an eye. He does what he wants, because he CAN.
DaringDarkwingDuck 5 months ago
@DaringDarkwingDuck but why to good people?
iTritton 4 months ago
@iTritton Like I said, because he can. Think it about it. If you had the power to do, well..ANYTHING, do you honestly think you would worry about what "insects" get hurt during your plans? You would have a goal set up, and some people would be elevated in life to help attain that goal, while some people will get crushed along the way. When you walk down the street rushing to work and step on an ant, do you stop, stay, "OH NO!" turn around and tend to the ant? No, you keep going. So does God.
DaringDarkwingDuck 4 months ago
Just like animals aren't held for something they don't understand people should not be held accountable for not understanding God whether we have a soul or not
reggieharris20 6 months ago
Yes.
nounever 6 months ago
"The real issue here is whether God has revealed him self in an adequate (?) way to everybody on the planet ..." "He indeed (?) has done that."
Since when? And how? Says who?
And what is fair about allowing all kinds of indifferent treatment to mankind?
Stand to fair biblical godly reason?
Toggen62 6 months ago
@sjd198302 If he wanted people to only worship him then he should've stripped satan of his powers when he was cast out of heaven. How in the world does an omnipotent being allow a fucking talking serpent to doom his beloved mankind. Also, if lucifer was god's prodigal angel, how did he end up being cast out. I mean this was in heaven, so how the fuck did sin get into lucifer. It makes no sense. God sucks ass. Life without him would be great because then there will be no life.
MDDLFNGZ2YA 6 months ago
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MDDLFNGZ2YA 6 months ago
Fuck god!!! He creates people with sin then punishes those people for sinning. I dont give a fuck who he is, he has no right to create a person, make em live miserably through life and turn around and send them to ultimate misery just because they picked up habits that would never exist if it weren't for him.
MDDLFNGZ2YA 6 months ago
@MDDLFNGZ2YA: Does God create people with sin, or does he create people with free will and the ability to sin if the choose to? God doesn't send people to hell; people send themselves there by rejecting Him and chosing to live without Him. What is God to do? Force people against their will to be with Him for eternity when they reject Him and fight tooth and nail to get Him out of their lives? The ultimate misery(hell) is living an existance without God, and it's our choice.
sjd198302 6 months ago
@sjd198302 It wouldn't be a bad idea for him to force people against their will to be with him. Hell he forces people to live against their will. Nobody chooses whether they live life or not. We gotta deal with war, famine, earthquakes, etc. People are being constantly fucked over by life because of the circumstances they were given by god. He claims to be extremely benevolent but creates a place called hell to send the people he "loves" that chose another path.
MDDLFNGZ2YA 6 months ago
I dont believe gods not required-to save anyone from the mess they put themselves in. Mothafucka if he's god he's the ultimate cause he put everyone into
martystreets 11 months ago
Man, i feel horribly terrified that God doesn't have to save us from annihilation. God is so absolute that no one can refute the decision of his to send people to hell. We desperately need gods help and not our own strength.
300pzl 1 year ago
@300pzl God doesn't have to give us salvation, but he has through Christ for he loves us. Jesus tells us not fear. Salvation is a gift by grace through faith in Jesus Christ not by works, so no man shall boast. Don't worry trust in God the father, Jesus Christ the son of God, and the Holy Ghost whom was given to us.
jomamma00007 11 months ago
Why is it that God never speak for him self, but leave it to countless preachers (with various intentions) to defend and interpret the bible on his behalf? As for fairness --- if you ever thank god for a miracle, you are grateful to someone who practise differential treatment to all those less fortunate (or just plain lucy?) than you. Is that fair?
Toggen62 1 year ago
He is definitely a good speaker. He says lot of good things. But, when ever a adult person starts to speak about angels it feels a bit embarrassing.
WillyDillyWillyDilly 1 year ago
This guys sounds like an unauthorized spoke person on who's behalf is he speaking of? What are interest in which you want to protect? People progress, God exits and he is the almighty I never disprove this point but it seems to me that is always easy to cage conservatism on to others that are trying to build better on what is possible!
wepauski 1 year ago
God is already going far beyond His personal responsibility towards us.
Our choices, sinful or saintly, are ours alone. God does not ever take away the reactions for saintly actions, but He does take away the reactions for certain sinful actions. He's under no obligation to do that, just as you don't have that obligation to me, and I don't have that obligation to you.
You are responsible for your own behavior and its reactions, not God.
He also teaches us how to be saintly.
Purushadasa 1 year ago
if god is not required to forgive everyone then he is an asshole,hes created us,we didnt ask for this,hes required to do so,its his responsability just as a father is responsible for raising and mantaining his kid,and even we have our limitations,he has no limitations hes all powerful he can do whatever he wants,he doesnt get tired,sad,frustrated or worried,it is his major responsability to forgive us and even more yet knowing that when he created us this would happen,it was his mistake not ours
hovsec 2 years ago
Wow all the hate. I guess your sense of morality is far superior to that of the Christian God. BTW, where does that morality come from? Why should anyone listen to you?
If you think it is wrong to torture puppies, where did you get that idea from?
Canbuhay 2 years ago
if there's an afterlife that doesn't automatically mean there's a god does it?
hi2babs 2 years ago
In fact, if there's *any* kind of life, that automatically means there's a God. There's never been a design without a designer, there's never been a building without a builder, and there's never been art without an artist.
dtower76 2 years ago
fuckin crap. Man cant think what God thinks. ^_^
faizdin09 2 years ago
Unfair, Jealous, Paranoid, Ego Maniacal, Murderous, Inflicts unlimited torture for limited offenses (including those of which you had no knowledge or control) ....But he LOVES YOU! Id rather be "loved" by Hitler. At least Hitler can die.
kev3d 2 years ago
This video doesn't make sense. Question: does God have the obligation to be fair? I say YES! Why? For example, if you have a sibling, do you think your parents should love your sibling more than you? I am sure you will be really sad and depressed if you don't get the same amount of love as your sibling. And God, as our maker, should be able to distribute same portion of love and happiness to everyone. God is indeed unfair in my opinion.
SoulDad 3 years ago
This is assuming that we are all God's children. According to the Bible, we're not all his children.
dtower76 2 years ago
What a bunch of rhetorical horse manure! This is just another blind faith-head who attempts to play with words along with your emotions. I agree that we humans are emotional beings, but that doesn't make us slaves to inoculations. Why do we believe in the words that came from someone who claims to talk to the divine being?Doesn't it seem a bit odd to you that aboriginals also do the same thing?History repeats itself;the 1st time as a comedy;the 2nd time as a farce.Please,let it not be a tragedy.
rheinhardzuo 3 years ago
Are you saying that aboriginals are less intelligent or developed than you are? Interesting.
dtower76 2 years ago
First of all, it depends on how you define intelligence. Among the Big Five Factors of human personailty characteristics, intelligence is the most intangible concept. Besides, as a biologist AND a person of faith myself, I'm absolutely abhorred to see someone forcing their version of religion upon others, including the "uncivilized" aboriginals. How pathetic it is to talk about aboriginal standing before God's trial with that kind of certainty
rheinhardzuo 2 years ago
This is interesting how you use the word "forcing." I don't see speaking on a video as "forcing" anyone to do anything. If they are convinced by the arguments, does that make them "forced" into believing? What is the point of any dialog then? If this is abhorrent to you, then why did you ever listen to your biology professors?
dtower76 2 years ago
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rheinhardzuo 2 years ago
shas1814 3 years ago
A man in South America, who has never even heared of a "Bible" or "God", he still lives in a forest with his family, now listen to this, a rival tribe kills him and his family, they see your god, and he damns them to hell for not accepting something that they were not offered in the first place, they burn in hell forever, the man seeing his family getting thier insides ripped out every day for the rest of time by demons, yeah really fucking fair.
OPHELIABUSH 3 years ago
this video makes you think and wonder that what the whole world is about!.
rogerscentrecanada 3 years ago
greg koukl is my hero!.
i like him very much!.
rogerscentrecanada 3 years ago
i am from canada and i really like greg koukl!.
rogerscentrecanada 3 years ago
this is a great video!.
rogerscentrecanada 3 years ago
So a buddhist monk who has led a good life of chastity and never hurt a living sole is straight away condemned to hell, just because he has chosen the wrong "God" to worship? or will he be judged on his merits like the person who has not sinned but never heard the word of God?
thedeejus 3 years ago
There is no person who has not sinned.
darylemhenry 3 years ago
stand to reason?. greg koukl is funny!.
deepakchoprafan 3 years ago
i really enjoyed watching this video!. really!.
godgodhelphelp 3 years ago
this video makes you think!.
godgodhelphelp 3 years ago
god bless greg koukl!.
godgodhelphelp 3 years ago
this is a very interesting video!.
godgodhelphelp 3 years ago
god is unjust and evil !. arguments like this are the best way to fool people !.
danialtanvir 3 years ago
it's easy to fool a fool...where did you get the word unjust and evil? Who are you to judge God?
hghlandir2007 3 years ago
I am his creation to judge him!. What do you mean it is easy to say the words unjust and evil?.
I can judge who ever i want to judge!. Who are you to tell me who i should judge and who i should not judge?.
Have a nice day!.
danialtanvir 3 years ago
we are born with free will, but we were born with a debt... which we didn't acquire by our free will...
so god doesn't have to make sense... he makes his own rules which we don't have to understand... yet we do... if we're to receive grace....
wow... how do you argue with that kind of drivel
keefies 4 years ago
is it required of god to punish people anymore than he's required to rescue anyone?
if god is omnipotent from whom is he required by?
keefies 4 years ago 2
Great video and to think that a lot of people have the privilege of hearing the gospel all the time and yet they continue to reject God's offer of forgiveness.
ARod072681 4 years ago
Some would say that since He made us, he should fix us.
The key word being "should".
I think most atheists or severe agnostics simply cannot fathom that God doesn't play by their rules.
Solarflare27 4 years ago
Thank you for these explanations. Makes you think.
commentreviewer 4 years ago