exactly ....being famous or making money doesnt mean that you cant be a punk band..............and ofcourse if you dont have money you cant afford doing punk things /..............cuz at most of the times they include the destruction
What is green day do - is totally not punk! Punk is no commercial, no la la la like one of this guys sad. Look at the albums Sex Pistols or Iggy Pop with The Stooges or Ramones! That's the real Punk Rock Music. Against the system, or against beautiful live in corporation, and definitely with the anger and about hoples. Those things are in the music GD? I don't thing so.. Thats only a melody rock but not Punk.
Green day did not sell out, if they played what they're "supposed" to play that would be selling out they did what they wanted to do and didn't give a fuck that's what made them punk I can't say they're punk anymore, but they still haven't sold out they're playing and having fun they just don't wanna play that style anymore which is fine it's still good music
I never thought i'd be defending green day as i am not their greatest fan... but "sellouts"!? please...
There is no such thing as genres! Seriously, how can music fans give a band a "genre" that basically dictates the style they have to play in and still have the balls to demand originality from them!?
Those guys from Green Day's old label who call them sellouts are honestly just fucking butthurt that Green Day got big and they we're not the ones who cashed in on it...
(continued) its only selling out if you move your morals and personal boundaries. if you like them you like them you don't you don't its up to you but EVERYONE should respect each others opinions regardless and not be so bloody childish
honestly, to me the thing about Punk is that you do whatever the hell you want regardless of what everyone else thinks. all greenday did was make a life for themselves. no matter what you do , you wanna be successful right? if your a musician you want to be successful, if your an accountant you want to be successful. greenday succeeded and in doing so created enemies of people who never were successful, or felt that becoming successful as a musician is the equivalent to selling out.
i thought green day was punk for a long time. than i saw some real old school punk. cool ass stuff. i still love green day. its incredible. well, their old stuff is really good. their post insomniac stuff is pretty poppy. but hey
it´s weird....punk rock means doing what you want and not give a shit what others think about it, green day do that, but they aren´t seen as punks, because they signed with a major label...isn´t punk rock living without rules?...but that IS a rule...damn, it´s weird....and yes, i know that that´s not everything about punk ;D
and btw: in my mind green day are punk :D they make punk rock....
they talk about punk rocker can't be punk if they sign to a mager label, look up sex pistols and see they were with virgin records, warner brother and emi!
The second time I saw Green Day at Gilman around 1993 I thought to myself, "these guys are so good, I don't know why everyone wouldn't like them." Turns out I was right. About a year later they put out Dookie and EVERYONE DID like them. Back in the old days everyone who was into Green Day knew it. They knew they were incredibly special. Green Day was getting bigger and bigger and bigger so I don't think they had a choice but to sign with a major.
@MG21749 My friends saw them a lot more than I did. After Dookie came out I was at a weird cross roads though. On one hand I knew they should be as popular as they'd gotten because they were that great but on the other hand, I had been wearing cheap Green Day shirts the band must've made themselves to school for years and now all of a sudden all the jock types were into Green Day and wearing new Dookie shirts. Wow, it's already been 17 years. Yeah, it doesn't bother me anymore.
i say the same to all who say green day are sell outs as i do to those who say metallica are sell outs: yes they sell out every seat in the house, every where they play everytime they play.
vh1 and mtv in general only care about how much music sells, instead of how good music is. i hate it when they treat green day like a pop act, when they're punk, or at least not pop.
Who care's if they sold out. I'm probably wrong, but isn't punk about being different? About being happy with who you are? I'm most likely wrong, but, yeah.
Green Day never sold out, it was just a pathetic attempt by jealous haters to weaken their image by cutting them down. HAHA FUCKERS, NO ONE LISTENED!! The sad thing is, that the same people who say that Green Day AREN'T punk...think Avril Lavigne IS...
honestly i think that theres kinda like 2 different types of green day: the old green day which was punk, and the now green day which is huge, epic and popular. I dont think either one em are better or worse, i just think old green day is punk new green day is great but i dont really consider it punk
i think the people from lookout! records is still watching and still loves green day, and if someone sees them like "ooh i thought they were sellouts?" they will say like "no we're just observing these sellouts (but in their hearts, "oh i love green day")"
I think Jeff Bale is the biggest fuckface on the planet. We get it, you're jealous of Green Day making popular punkrock music and all YOU do is sit at the office all day long, writing boring articles on successful and "sold out" bands.
So am I to believe that the guys running the "punk" magazines haven't "sold out" themselves as they are making their living off of the "punk rock scene"?
sorry guys..punk is NOT a music...punk is attitude.the music is not the point of punk.
punk is kind of the same as "hippy" .its not a music its a lifestyle.Rebellion against the rule makers that know whats best..punk was a way of saying up yours you dont know whats best for me i have my own voice..
later on there was a style of music kind of glued onto the name punk and people have lost what punk was and is all about.it is a voice of the young people.not a music,dont want to upset anyone,sorry
@RIDGEBACK890 Was gonna write the same thing, Punk is an attitude not just 3 chords and oi oi oi. Just like blues is a feeling not just a chord progression. Glad someone else gets it. Good on ya.
@Scthyer32 Idk really most of my friend are all metalheads but Im more into punk I guess it depends on the ppl. but if I had to come up with a reason its probaly on between whether metal or hardcore punk came up with that really heavy fast sound first.
punk kids are so full of shit. You can't live off the street forever, you gotta grow up and make some fucking money. Green day shouldn't give a fuck about what those losers on the street think, they got the fans the tunes and the money so fuck the haters.
@TGeiger85 Punk is just a teenage thing. And the punks that call Green Day sellouts are retarded and miss the point of being punk. Same with the punks that call them Emo fags
this documentary kinda sucks. it repeats this "Green Day is not punk rock because they sold over a million albums". well the selling thing is really not about the music. I mean their music is punk rock, but they can't be punk because they're so popular? idiotic. and it's really not their fault that they sold so many records
@bastardgear8 ikr! like look how big the Ramones, The Clash and The 'Pistols were, they were huge, but theirs nothing u can do about it, people always will bitch
@bastardgear8 why is that the fault of the documentary? after all it's a documentary, it speaks the truth. that's how a lot of people reacted to them signing to a major label at the time
@bastardgear8 I guess, but most of their music isnt even punk anymore. True punk is a lot heavier than even Dookie, and I find Dookie to be pretty heavy. Also, Dookie was a lot more public than Kerplunk or 39/Smooth and their music was played on music channels at the time, so it was their decision to advertise and sign themselves away, but if Green Day hadnt, then Punk would probably be dead now, as Green Day was the second coming of Punk.
@GreenDouche I wrote that comment almost a year ago and I have changed my mind about them. they're not punk everyone should know that. at least anymore. but I would call Dookie era punk. I don't really think punk'd be dead if it wasn't for GD. there are still popular punk bands like Bad Religion, NOFX, Sum 41 and Offspring...
@bastardgear8 Yeah, I just realised you posted this a while ago. I do agree that Punk would probably not be dead, but I dont think Punk would be anywhere near as popular without Green Day.
@GreenDouche Yep that's true. Green Day has introduced many people to punk and I myself am a good example of a person like that. First I heard about Green Day then I went to Offspring and then I went to NOFX and after that I started listening all kinds of punk rock bands... I give my respect to Green Day but I don't support them anymore. There is little fact that you can hear all over YouTube; Green Day are sellouts. It's true. They seem to be just about the main stream nowadays.
@GreenDouche i don't think i could agree with you, i mean, everyone have their own definition of punk, but we will all agree that punk is freedom, freedom to do something and don't give a fuck about what other people think. green day had that FREEDOM to do thing they wanted...and about that, we can't define punk music as ' need to have heavier sound, songs from 2 and something minutes and not to be popular' because then we are actually putting some sort of a rules in punk, which is against it.
@bastardgear8 Well, Bad Religion, NOFX and (especially) The Offspring all rode on the success of Green Day's punk rock "revival," though I'd like to add that it was not a revival. Punk rock wasn't dead, and it never has been, and it never will be (just like all other genres, they don't "die," they just vary in popularity). 'Dookie' was not even revivaling punk rock in the sense that they were making it popular again. Because punk never was that popular in the mainstream.
None of the old school punk bands sold alot of records to begin with, and when 'Dookie' was released it was actually the first time ever that punk was mainstream. And that's why so many people held a grudge against Green Day for kind of ruining punk. Bad Religion's 'Stranger than Fiction' LP was and still is their only Gold selling album in the U.S., and it was released at the height of 'Dookie''s popularity. And the same thing goes for NOFX's 'Punk in Drublic'.
The Offspring, on the other hand, didn't only ride on the success of 'Dookie', but it was released just two months after it, and helped pave the way for punk rock's mainstream popularity. And even though The Offspring still was an independent act at that point, I guess they had enough mainstream appeal to not only ride on the success of Green Day, but to go multi-platinum in the same time. But punk rock didn't stay too long in the mainstream.
And while Green Day found mainstream success again later in the 90s with the acoustic ballad "Good Riddance", they just couldn't sell a million records with a straight forward punk album any longer. The Offspring signed to a major label with their follow-up CD 'Ixnay on the Hombre', but just like Green Day's 'Dookie' follow-up 'Insomniac', it didn't reach anywhere near the high sales of the previous release. By the early 2000s, punk rock just wasn't that big of a deal on mainstream radio anymore
The Offspring did have a second wave of succes in 1998 with 'Americana', which in a way revitalized mainstream punk rock. And even though it rode high on the success of the not-so-punkish novelty tune "Pretty Fly", I think that song still helped the more punk-sounding "The Kids Aren't Alright" to become a moderate hit and boost the sales of the album. The success didn't last long, though, and soon both Green Day and The Offspring were releasing moderately selling records.
The sales of following Offspring albums post-'Americana' quickly decreased in sales, and 2003's 'Splinter' only managed to go Gold. But barely a year after that album was released, Green Day came out with 'American Idiot'. And yeah, it had several punk trademarks. Punk had yet another revivalization with 'American Idiot', though now with a more polished sound and with a hint of emo at times.
'American Idiot' pretty much killed arena rock bands like Creed and 3 Doors Down, along with "alternative" metal bands like Staind, Slipknot and Saliva. And it paved the way for bands like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and Panic! at the Disco. But by the time that The Offspring released their long-awaited 'Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace' album in 2008, those bands were already out of fashion.
"You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" still had some success clinching onto whatever was left of the 'American Idiot' "pop punk" revitalization. And Green Day's 'American Idiot' follow-up '21st Century Breakdown', released in 2009, was a huge letdown in sales compared to its predeccessor. And by 2011, well, no rock music seems to be selling. Not even former rock mammoths like Linkin Park can make huge sales numbers anymore.
Well, I think I've said all I wanted to say! Hahah :)
@MrThroll yea I know. my opinion has changed in 11 months anyway. nowadays I think Green Day are sellout and they are a bad example of punk rock music
Green day is punk they are sellouts for making a good desision? if they didn't sign that contract u guys still would b bitchin so fuck all of u who dnt like them and think they are not punk
Why are there so many Childish pricks going on about people not liking GREEN DAY if they'd heard their earlier stuff?So fucking what?You hear a song,you like it,THAT'S IT! I fuckin' hate stupid twats who think they own a fuckin' band YOU DON'T!They can do what they want,write what they want,If they were so amazing earlier why weren't they big then?And as for calling them sellouts,they are entitled to earn money aren't they?I mean it IS their job is it not?Grow up and shut the fuck up.
Green Day made their brand of Punk commercially proactive because their that good. They can make hard rock music without sounding like shit. It's more than just playing a bunch of power chords, it's about making good music, fuck labels!
IN the "39 Smooth" final there is a cartoon depiction of Green Day. One of the old photos in this video of Mike lol looks just like the cartoon. Even the mouth in the photo looks just like the cartoon character lmao!
it is a bit confusing......he talks about green daze recent works then about their neighborhoods and home then about sweet children....i'm getting dizzy
America helped create punk.... but also killed it... thats rediculous about signing to a major label and being sell out's... Punks more than a look or an attitude!
if they hadnt signed that record deal then we wouldn't have songs like longview, geek stink breath, welcome to paradise, brain stew, good riddance, basket case, boulevard of broken dreams.. etc etc. So thank you for going corporate and turning your backs on the nimrod masses who enjoy living life in squaller all just to stick it to the system that they are also drones of but they just dont realize it
yeah he gained weight. alot actually. thats when he first quit the drugs to try and clean up. and naturally he gained weight. and when they were writing american idiot he got back on the stuff plus he was a vegetarian at the time too. but he even said himself, he got too skinny so he quit. and with the drugs he stopped again around 06' and gained back his weight but maintained it. not gain it all at once.
@alexaelektra1 He's said that those years were his "Fat Elvis" years LOL! And all three members of the band underwent strict exercised and diet regimes before American Idiot came out, for the long tour. Guess they've kept it up since they haven't stopped yet!
Yeah he sorta resembled the Dookie era when American Idiot came out but with a full set of teeth and some eyeliner.
If they had only shot the American Idiot Music Video with Billie's hair being blue instead and no eyeliner it would be Woodstock '94 all over again. And also Tre's green hair.
one thing i find shitty is if you don't make your living off of music you're still a fucking sheep and you're still part of the system just making less money
unlucky for green day they were already labeled as punk. Nirvana would have had the same thing had people not called them the word they use for music they don't wanna bother to define..."ALTERNATIVE ROCK." hahah. or worst for Nirvana. they were put with that degrading label "GRUNGE!" Not that seattle didn't produce music but that title characterizes music a bit much.
sorry about taking so long to get back to you, i haven't been on the computer in a few days.
I guess that degrading is a strong word. But it's another way to make something very generic when it's not. For example, people called TAD..a metal band grunge, then went on to call Some Velvet Sidewalk grunge, a punk rock outfit and then went on to call the Screaming Trees..a band that sounds like The Doors...the same. I guess that's what gets me upset at calling something grunge.
It's okay..at least you're willing to have intelligent discussion about it. ;)
I've even heard the Screaming Trees called 2nd wave Emocore. Which is just prepostorous. Genre flinging has been a problem for a long time..calling Green Day punk, calling metalcore bands metal, etc etc..
I can see where you're coming from. It just seemed like you were saying the genre of grunge itself was degrading. I understand where you're coming from though. :D
Noise as in just noise. Can you fucking believe that? The fucker listens to this whiney ass shit or songs with fucking retarded lyrics. I wanted to deck him so hard he's fly across the room.
Bah. That sucks. People need to really stop listening to the trend. I mean..it's always been like that and I guess we never noticed it in the 60s - 90s, depending on when you're born, to notice how many people listen to the generic crap that they only listen to because it's popular.
I'm sorry but any punk band that's offered 3 million dollars and a gig with 20 thousand people would sign faster that they could think
thenewestguitarist 2 weeks ago
alright who really gives two fucks if they signed to a major record label? they still made (and still make) kickass music!
shelloz09 1 month ago
dead kennedys
jarredkhaos 1 month ago
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Dead Kennedys @ 0:51 - 0:59 = punk
Green Gay = mainstream rock band
2shredder03 3 months ago
@2shredder03 youre using gay as an insult, is funny how a punk, that i think that its against homofobic things uses as an insult
OtroArgentinoetc 3 months ago 4
Gilman is hands down the best fucking venue in all the bay!!!!!
FunInFuneral13 5 months ago
i think the fact that punk didn't like em'.. was punk. They we're (and i believe still) to punk for punk.
fruitjuicesaves 6 months ago 2
Can someone please tell me the name of the song that starts at 1:30?
64HitKo 7 months ago
@64HitKo Take Back its on nimrod :)
luckyaidie 7 months ago
Making money does not stop you from being a punk!
metaller8 8 months ago
exactly ....being famous or making money doesnt mean that you cant be a punk band..............and ofcourse if you dont have money you cant afford doing punk things /..............cuz at most of the times they include the destruction
voiceinthenoise 8 months ago
What is green day do - is totally not punk! Punk is no commercial, no la la la like one of this guys sad. Look at the albums Sex Pistols or Iggy Pop with The Stooges or Ramones! That's the real Punk Rock Music. Against the system, or against beautiful live in corporation, and definitely with the anger and about hoples. Those things are in the music GD? I don't thing so.. Thats only a melody rock but not Punk.
dzieckowesternu 8 months ago
@dzieckowesternu the ramones and sex psitols and iggy pop are commercial
BigJoker260 8 months ago
@BigJoker260
Now, but in 70!
dzieckowesternu 8 months ago
i dont understand why its "punk" to begin hating music you once liked when other people begin to like it.
MrOdieoconnor 8 months ago
Green day did not sell out, if they played what they're "supposed" to play that would be selling out they did what they wanted to do and didn't give a fuck that's what made them punk I can't say they're punk anymore, but they still haven't sold out they're playing and having fun they just don't wanna play that style anymore which is fine it's still good music
Reaping702 8 months ago
I never thought i'd be defending green day as i am not their greatest fan... but "sellouts"!? please...
There is no such thing as genres! Seriously, how can music fans give a band a "genre" that basically dictates the style they have to play in and still have the balls to demand originality from them!?
Those guys from Green Day's old label who call them sellouts are honestly just fucking butthurt that Green Day got big and they we're not the ones who cashed in on it...
XcXtrippyXcX 8 months ago
(continued) its only selling out if you move your morals and personal boundaries. if you like them you like them you don't you don't its up to you but EVERYONE should respect each others opinions regardless and not be so bloody childish
781holly 9 months ago
honestly, to me the thing about Punk is that you do whatever the hell you want regardless of what everyone else thinks. all greenday did was make a life for themselves. no matter what you do , you wanna be successful right? if your a musician you want to be successful, if your an accountant you want to be successful. greenday succeeded and in doing so created enemies of people who never were successful, or felt that becoming successful as a musician is the equivalent to selling out.
781holly 9 months ago
i thought green day was punk for a long time. than i saw some real old school punk. cool ass stuff. i still love green day. its incredible. well, their old stuff is really good. their post insomniac stuff is pretty poppy. but hey
, holiday is one fucking awesome song.
rockthepiano4ever 9 months ago
it´s weird....punk rock means doing what you want and not give a shit what others think about it, green day do that, but they aren´t seen as punks, because they signed with a major label...isn´t punk rock living without rules?...but that IS a rule...damn, it´s weird....and yes, i know that that´s not everything about punk ;D
and btw: in my mind green day are punk :D they make punk rock....
mjandicehockey4ever 9 months ago
people are dumb ..look how many records Rancid sold??
BlindMelon1993 9 months ago
they talk about punk rocker can't be punk if they sign to a mager label, look up sex pistols and see they were with virgin records, warner brother and emi!
FridgeMice 9 months ago
rancid should get a behind the music!
FlashandSnowy 10 months ago
The second time I saw Green Day at Gilman around 1993 I thought to myself, "these guys are so good, I don't know why everyone wouldn't like them." Turns out I was right. About a year later they put out Dookie and EVERYONE DID like them. Back in the old days everyone who was into Green Day knew it. They knew they were incredibly special. Green Day was getting bigger and bigger and bigger so I don't think they had a choice but to sign with a major.
Inzo42 1 year ago
@Inzo42 you saw them at gilman!!! luuccckkkyyy!!! but yeah i totally agree with you
MG21749 1 year ago
@MG21749 My friends saw them a lot more than I did. After Dookie came out I was at a weird cross roads though. On one hand I knew they should be as popular as they'd gotten because they were that great but on the other hand, I had been wearing cheap Green Day shirts the band must've made themselves to school for years and now all of a sudden all the jock types were into Green Day and wearing new Dookie shirts. Wow, it's already been 17 years. Yeah, it doesn't bother me anymore.
Inzo42 1 year ago
i say the same to all who say green day are sell outs as i do to those who say metallica are sell outs: yes they sell out every seat in the house, every where they play everytime they play.
oncebitten1981 1 year ago
billie JOE armstrong dude, not JOEL
MetallicaGreenday502 1 year ago 5
They are Punkrock as Ramones are Punkrock!
nickgreeen 1 year ago 2
vh1 and mtv in general only care about how much music sells, instead of how good music is. i hate it when they treat green day like a pop act, when they're punk, or at least not pop.
vanepopstar 1 year ago 2
Who care's if they sold out. I'm probably wrong, but isn't punk about being different? About being happy with who you are? I'm most likely wrong, but, yeah.
ChildOfWarAndPeace 1 year ago
Gotta love the old pics :'D
LisaDeEJag 1 year ago
Why is it about selling out or not selling out...the music is good or it isn't. End of story.
mokulen22 1 year ago
Green Day never sold out, it was just a pathetic attempt by jealous haters to weaken their image by cutting them down. HAHA FUCKERS, NO ONE LISTENED!! The sad thing is, that the same people who say that Green Day AREN'T punk...think Avril Lavigne IS...
cinchino 1 year ago
green day is fucking awesome.
kobe4270 1 year ago 7
honestly i think that theres kinda like 2 different types of green day: the old green day which was punk, and the now green day which is huge, epic and popular. I dont think either one em are better or worse, i just think old green day is punk new green day is great but i dont really consider it punk
blacknailgirl6 1 year ago
So what part of 'I'll make whatever music I want. If you like it, great. If not, f^*k you', isn't punk?
Brettbesa 1 year ago
i think the people from lookout! records is still watching and still loves green day, and if someone sees them like "ooh i thought they were sellouts?" they will say like "no we're just observing these sellouts (but in their hearts, "oh i love green day")"
KuggeR23 1 year ago
@5thseasonnmbr2
SaintxOfxSuburbia 1 year ago
Dead Kennedys-NaziPunksFuckOff....
ShamzStarr 1 year ago
Too Sweet Too Pop. Well FUCCCCCCCCCCK Youuuu
PaudinsDrawings 1 year ago
@5thseasonnmbr2 "at the libary"
hadododo6 1 year ago
0:49 LOL i got friends like that!
61SGman 1 year ago
crazy yanks.... helped start the punk scene, and helped kill it !!!! thanks USA
mrbassman25 1 year ago
Are punks and Thrash kids friends?
Scthyer32 1 year ago
I think Jeff Bale is the biggest fuckface on the planet. We get it, you're jealous of Green Day making popular punkrock music and all YOU do is sit at the office all day long, writing boring articles on successful and "sold out" bands.
Evica72 1 year ago 4
@Evica72 YES YES A MILLION TIMES YES
xcemeterydrivex86 1 year ago
I might get a lot of shit for this, but what's the song @ 4:43?
digitalph33rfan9 1 year ago
@digitalph33rfan9 it's Who Wrote Holden Caulfield?
vivalalonneke 1 year ago
So am I to believe that the guys running the "punk" magazines haven't "sold out" themselves as they are making their living off of the "punk rock scene"?
bigdaddytravis82 1 year ago 76
@bigdaddytravis82
Brilliant question! "Pure" punk is pure hypocrisy.
Davidjamespinnock 11 months ago
sorry guys..punk is NOT a music...punk is attitude.the music is not the point of punk.
punk is kind of the same as "hippy" .its not a music its a lifestyle.Rebellion against the rule makers that know whats best..punk was a way of saying up yours you dont know whats best for me i have my own voice..
later on there was a style of music kind of glued onto the name punk and people have lost what punk was and is all about.it is a voice of the young people.not a music,dont want to upset anyone,sorry
RIDGEBACK890 1 year ago 9
@RIDGEBACK890 i agree!
luissaCj2 1 year ago
@RIDGEBACK890 i totally agree with you i have been trying to explain this to some ppl and i couldn't and havent said it as well as you have here
jaccuzisplot 1 year ago
@RIDGEBACK890 Was gonna write the same thing, Punk is an attitude not just 3 chords and oi oi oi. Just like blues is a feeling not just a chord progression. Glad someone else gets it. Good on ya.
fleafarteasy 1 year ago
yay its low enough quality so it loads decently fast on my shitty laptop XD
hsenn514 1 year ago
Why does something have to be non musical to be considered "punk"
mainecolbs 1 year ago
Green day is NOT sellouts! Green day is punk-rock-pop but not so mutsh pop.
Whenicomaroundiscool 1 year ago
Just becuase a band is popular doesn't make them a sellout. I think that a sellout would be more like doing it just for the fame and money
GreenDayJesusofSub 1 year ago 4
what's the song at 1:35?
Scthyer32 1 year ago
@Scthyer32 "take back"
shiverinboy 1 year ago
aren't punks and metalheads friends?
Scthyer32 1 year ago
@Scthyer32 no bro not really but some are
ShamzStarr 1 year ago
@ShamzStarr Y not the ideas are very similiar
Scthyer32 1 year ago
@Scthyer32 Idk really most of my friend are all metalheads but Im more into punk I guess it depends on the ppl. but if I had to come up with a reason its probaly on between whether metal or hardcore punk came up with that really heavy fast sound first.
ShamzStarr 1 year ago
punk kids are so full of shit. You can't live off the street forever, you gotta grow up and make some fucking money. Green day shouldn't give a fuck about what those losers on the street think, they got the fans the tunes and the money so fuck the haters.
TGeiger85 1 year ago
@TGeiger85 Punk is just a teenage thing. And the punks that call Green Day sellouts are retarded and miss the point of being punk. Same with the punks that call them Emo fags
mainecolbs 1 year ago 2
succesful and sell out are not the same......
luissaCj2 1 year ago
I'm not understand why it is called Green Day behind the music while the whole first part is about Billie Joe
GreenDaySucker 1 year ago
this documentary kinda sucks. it repeats this "Green Day is not punk rock because they sold over a million albums". well the selling thing is really not about the music. I mean their music is punk rock, but they can't be punk because they're so popular? idiotic. and it's really not their fault that they sold so many records
bastardgear8 1 year ago 98
@bastardgear8 Exactly. What were they supposed to do, work for the oil refinery for the rest of their lives just to prove they're not "selling out"?
victoriaindigo 1 year ago
@bastardgear8 ikr! like look how big the Ramones, The Clash and The 'Pistols were, they were huge, but theirs nothing u can do about it, people always will bitch
heartgernadeidiot 1 year ago
@bastardgear8 It is thier fault that they sold so many. They shouldn't have made so fuckin' god music
TheDStraits 1 year ago
@bastardgear8 ah i know its stupid and they think they are experts?
guitarslash33 1 year ago
@bastardgear8 why is that the fault of the documentary? after all it's a documentary, it speaks the truth. that's how a lot of people reacted to them signing to a major label at the time
fuckamericanidiot 11 months ago
@fuckamericanidiot not all documentaries speak the truth my friend. but I do believe that that was how people reacted when Dookie came
bastardgear8 11 months ago
@bastardgear8 yeah fair enough i don't know why i said that about documentaries
fuckamericanidiot 11 months ago
@bastardgear8 I guess, but most of their music isnt even punk anymore. True punk is a lot heavier than even Dookie, and I find Dookie to be pretty heavy. Also, Dookie was a lot more public than Kerplunk or 39/Smooth and their music was played on music channels at the time, so it was their decision to advertise and sign themselves away, but if Green Day hadnt, then Punk would probably be dead now, as Green Day was the second coming of Punk.
GreenDouche 11 months ago
@GreenDouche I wrote that comment almost a year ago and I have changed my mind about them. they're not punk everyone should know that. at least anymore. but I would call Dookie era punk. I don't really think punk'd be dead if it wasn't for GD. there are still popular punk bands like Bad Religion, NOFX, Sum 41 and Offspring...
bastardgear8 11 months ago
@bastardgear8 Yeah, I just realised you posted this a while ago. I do agree that Punk would probably not be dead, but I dont think Punk would be anywhere near as popular without Green Day.
GreenDouche 11 months ago
@GreenDouche Yep that's true. Green Day has introduced many people to punk and I myself am a good example of a person like that. First I heard about Green Day then I went to Offspring and then I went to NOFX and after that I started listening all kinds of punk rock bands... I give my respect to Green Day but I don't support them anymore. There is little fact that you can hear all over YouTube; Green Day are sellouts. It's true. They seem to be just about the main stream nowadays.
bastardgear8 11 months ago
@bastardgear8 Yeah thats true. I think they further proved themselves as sellouts by making American Idiot on Broadway.
GreenDouche 11 months ago
@GreenDouche Don't forget the Rock Band game...
bastardgear8 11 months ago
@GreenDouche i don't think i could agree with you, i mean, everyone have their own definition of punk, but we will all agree that punk is freedom, freedom to do something and don't give a fuck about what other people think. green day had that FREEDOM to do thing they wanted...and about that, we can't define punk music as ' need to have heavier sound, songs from 2 and something minutes and not to be popular' because then we are actually putting some sort of a rules in punk, which is against it.
NiNaRoSe995 9 months ago
@bastardgear8 Well, Bad Religion, NOFX and (especially) The Offspring all rode on the success of Green Day's punk rock "revival," though I'd like to add that it was not a revival. Punk rock wasn't dead, and it never has been, and it never will be (just like all other genres, they don't "die," they just vary in popularity). 'Dookie' was not even revivaling punk rock in the sense that they were making it popular again. Because punk never was that popular in the mainstream.
MrThroll 7 months ago
None of the old school punk bands sold alot of records to begin with, and when 'Dookie' was released it was actually the first time ever that punk was mainstream. And that's why so many people held a grudge against Green Day for kind of ruining punk. Bad Religion's 'Stranger than Fiction' LP was and still is their only Gold selling album in the U.S., and it was released at the height of 'Dookie''s popularity. And the same thing goes for NOFX's 'Punk in Drublic'.
MrThroll 7 months ago
The Offspring, on the other hand, didn't only ride on the success of 'Dookie', but it was released just two months after it, and helped pave the way for punk rock's mainstream popularity. And even though The Offspring still was an independent act at that point, I guess they had enough mainstream appeal to not only ride on the success of Green Day, but to go multi-platinum in the same time. But punk rock didn't stay too long in the mainstream.
MrThroll 7 months ago
And while Green Day found mainstream success again later in the 90s with the acoustic ballad "Good Riddance", they just couldn't sell a million records with a straight forward punk album any longer. The Offspring signed to a major label with their follow-up CD 'Ixnay on the Hombre', but just like Green Day's 'Dookie' follow-up 'Insomniac', it didn't reach anywhere near the high sales of the previous release. By the early 2000s, punk rock just wasn't that big of a deal on mainstream radio anymore
MrThroll 7 months ago
The Offspring did have a second wave of succes in 1998 with 'Americana', which in a way revitalized mainstream punk rock. And even though it rode high on the success of the not-so-punkish novelty tune "Pretty Fly", I think that song still helped the more punk-sounding "The Kids Aren't Alright" to become a moderate hit and boost the sales of the album. The success didn't last long, though, and soon both Green Day and The Offspring were releasing moderately selling records.
MrThroll 7 months ago
The sales of following Offspring albums post-'Americana' quickly decreased in sales, and 2003's 'Splinter' only managed to go Gold. But barely a year after that album was released, Green Day came out with 'American Idiot'. And yeah, it had several punk trademarks. Punk had yet another revivalization with 'American Idiot', though now with a more polished sound and with a hint of emo at times.
MrThroll 7 months ago
'American Idiot' pretty much killed arena rock bands like Creed and 3 Doors Down, along with "alternative" metal bands like Staind, Slipknot and Saliva. And it paved the way for bands like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and Panic! at the Disco. But by the time that The Offspring released their long-awaited 'Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace' album in 2008, those bands were already out of fashion.
MrThroll 7 months ago
"You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" still had some success clinching onto whatever was left of the 'American Idiot' "pop punk" revitalization. And Green Day's 'American Idiot' follow-up '21st Century Breakdown', released in 2009, was a huge letdown in sales compared to its predeccessor. And by 2011, well, no rock music seems to be selling. Not even former rock mammoths like Linkin Park can make huge sales numbers anymore.
Well, I think I've said all I wanted to say! Hahah :)
MrThroll 7 months ago
@bastardgear8 hahaha so true. Sure the sex pistols/the ramones havent sold over a million records either... im sure of it. ;)
TheWeekendWar 9 months ago
@bastardgear8 wel it is, because they write kick ass songs
jettsta2401 9 months ago
@jettsta2401 no shit
bastardgear8 9 months ago
@bastardgear8 They signed to a major label with 'Dookie'.
MrThroll 9 months ago
@MrThroll yea I know. my opinion has changed in 11 months anyway. nowadays I think Green Day are sellout and they are a bad example of punk rock music
bastardgear8 9 months ago
@bastardgear8 I think the arguement that supports that accusation is the fact that they signed to a major record. Not that I agree with it.
Unfortunatecubfan92 7 months ago
@bastardgear8 YES!!! EXPOSE THE HYPOCRITES
traindude95 6 months ago
@bastardgear8 its cause its considered mainstream and punk isnt mainstream
hvymetal4TW 5 months ago
"no alcohol" sissy little correctness straight edge primadonnas, you're simply not punk if you're not alcoholic! :D
hellspawnds 1 year ago
Green day is punk they are sellouts for making a good desision? if they didn't sign that contract u guys still would b bitchin so fuck all of u who dnt like them and think they are not punk
lizalinnie25 1 year ago
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Why are there so many Childish pricks going on about people not liking GREEN DAY if they'd heard their earlier stuff?So fucking what?You hear a song,you like it,THAT'S IT! I fuckin' hate stupid twats who think they own a fuckin' band YOU DON'T!They can do what they want,write what they want,If they were so amazing earlier why weren't they big then?And as for calling them sellouts,they are entitled to earn money aren't they?I mean it IS their job is it not?Grow up and shut the fuck up.
atdgsoad 1 year ago
You sell out when you bark your political beliefs on your records...Oh I'm sorry they did...
viletantrum 1 year ago
Green Day made their brand of Punk commercially proactive because their that good. They can make hard rock music without sounding like shit. It's more than just playing a bunch of power chords, it's about making good music, fuck labels!
sgwinn1 1 year ago 2
What's the tune @ 1:32?
TPCrisis 1 year ago
@TPCrisis take back oby green day off nimrod. its their only hardcore punk song.
mranarchy03 1 year ago
Punk Music is Great, Punk ideology is not so great
kaboom6899 1 year ago
@kaboom6899 That's a fucking joke.
ComaSDA 1 year ago
dont listen to the dick heads who say green day are a sell out!
green day is the best fucking band of all fucking time!
Benedictusindahouse 1 year ago
green day is gnarly
untydled 1 year ago
@untydled What does 'gnarly' mean???
Nattizlovesnalle 1 year ago
@Nattizlovesnalle I don´t know... Do you know?
Nattizlovesnalle 1 year ago
@Nattizlovesnalle
Badass, tough
Passthepie 1 year ago
"I had like 75 detentions"
Hahaha :D
EmilyDenmark 1 year ago 3
IN the "39 Smooth" final there is a cartoon depiction of Green Day. One of the old photos in this video of Mike lol looks just like the cartoon. Even the mouth in the photo looks just like the cartoon character lmao!
NIcholasDustini 2 years ago
Green Day is my all time favorite band (I'm 50) and I love to read about them, watch interviews, and BEST OF ALL, perform.
karenrashkash 2 years ago 7
whats the song at 0:53??
spoty212 2 years ago
shitty
ThePredizor 2 years ago
Dead Kennedys - Nazi Punks Fuck Off
chunkyass69 2 years ago
dead kennedys - nazi punks
jurapanks 2 years ago
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RadioFriendlyNoise 2 years ago
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RadioFriendlyNoise 2 years ago
Such a good band. Shame they all hate each other now (Dead Kennedys).
RadioFriendlyNoise 2 years ago
why? what do u mean, hate each other?
xXbhenzXx 2 years ago
they sued Jello Biafra for royalties, but were going to use the songs in commercials for corporate companies when they stand against that.
RadioFriendlyNoise 2 years ago
Do the guitar then
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
At the library
gohawkeyes18 2 years ago
WhATS THE SONG AT 3:29
MBOYA22 2 years ago
@MBOYA22 At The Library.
TasteMyInkBitch 2 years ago
I'm like the female Billie that can sing!
MrsArmstrong100 2 years ago
qqqoqqoqqq
oboblivionskater 2 years ago
me and billie is kinda the same if feel invisible at school too ):
sonamyROCKS 2 years ago 3
@sonamyROCKS
I know exactly how you feel, I'm kind of a loner...with very different interests to everyone else.
NotSoAmericanIdiot 2 years ago
You're tellin me
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
lol i didn't know mike had 75 detentions!
DAMN
"Mike, nobody in the school has more detentions than you"
trishstratusfan90 2 years ago 9
damned if you do ...damned if you dont.
mrperfectnot29 2 years ago
it is a bit confusing......he talks about green daze recent works then about their neighborhoods and home then about sweet children....i'm getting dizzy
StStevie96bjfan 2 years ago
song at 3 : 59 ????
crbrucelee 2 years ago
At the library
andyjmwm 2 years ago
America helped create punk.... but also killed it... thats rediculous about signing to a major label and being sell out's... Punks more than a look or an attitude!
mrbassman25 2 years ago
if they hadnt signed that record deal then we wouldn't have songs like longview, geek stink breath, welcome to paradise, brain stew, good riddance, basket case, boulevard of broken dreams.. etc etc. So thank you for going corporate and turning your backs on the nimrod masses who enjoy living life in squaller all just to stick it to the system that they are also drones of but they just dont realize it
plankboi 2 years ago 4
Wow, for an anarchy driven music genre they sure have a lot of rules...
RichieEastside 2 years ago
no shit right? haha
NovakBoxford666 2 years ago
Green Day = Pure Punk!!
Green Day = The best band ever!!!!
Green Day = The greatest musicians, to ever walk the earth!!
mfnstudioschannel 2 years ago 19
i wanna add u as my friend!!!!!ur so right man
StStevie96bjfan 2 years ago 2
is it me or did billie gain some weight during the warning era?? then like totally lost everything before american idiot came out
alexaelektra1 2 years ago 89
yeah he gained weight. alot actually. thats when he first quit the drugs to try and clean up. and naturally he gained weight. and when they were writing american idiot he got back on the stuff plus he was a vegetarian at the time too. but he even said himself, he got too skinny so he quit. and with the drugs he stopped again around 06' and gained back his weight but maintained it. not gain it all at once.
Emmibubble 2 years ago 3
@alexaelektra1 ya noticed
bcrich127 1 year ago
@alexaelektra1 That's actually true I think.. It's a bit weird.
EmilyDenmark 1 year ago
@alexaelektra1 no, i noticed that also, in the minority video hes a little fat
johnboy2296 1 year ago
@alexaelektra1 I know at one point he was a vegetarian. Maybe that is what happened? I heard he walks 6 miles a day now.
MajinVegetaDraco 1 year ago
@alexaelektra1 He's said that those years were his "Fat Elvis" years LOL! And all three members of the band underwent strict exercised and diet regimes before American Idiot came out, for the long tour. Guess they've kept it up since they haven't stopped yet!
FinksEntourage 1 year ago
@alexaelektra1
Yeah he sorta resembled the Dookie era when American Idiot came out but with a full set of teeth and some eyeliner.
If they had only shot the American Idiot Music Video with Billie's hair being blue instead and no eyeliner it would be Woodstock '94 all over again. And also Tre's green hair.
Junkpunker21 1 year ago
one thing i find shitty is if you don't make your living off of music you're still a fucking sheep and you're still part of the system just making less money
cretinhop21 2 years ago 6
unlucky for green day they were already labeled as punk. Nirvana would have had the same thing had people not called them the word they use for music they don't wanna bother to define..."ALTERNATIVE ROCK." hahah. or worst for Nirvana. they were put with that degrading label "GRUNGE!" Not that seattle didn't produce music but that title characterizes music a bit much.
hungryhippos41 2 years ago 2
How is Grunge a degrading label? Mark Arm of Mudhoney coined the term in the early 80s to describe his music with Green River.
emphaticleech 2 years ago
sorry about taking so long to get back to you, i haven't been on the computer in a few days.
I guess that degrading is a strong word. But it's another way to make something very generic when it's not. For example, people called TAD..a metal band grunge, then went on to call Some Velvet Sidewalk grunge, a punk rock outfit and then went on to call the Screaming Trees..a band that sounds like The Doors...the same. I guess that's what gets me upset at calling something grunge.
hungryhippos41 2 years ago
It's okay..at least you're willing to have intelligent discussion about it. ;)
I've even heard the Screaming Trees called 2nd wave Emocore. Which is just prepostorous. Genre flinging has been a problem for a long time..calling Green Day punk, calling metalcore bands metal, etc etc..
I can see where you're coming from. It just seemed like you were saying the genre of grunge itself was degrading. I understand where you're coming from though. :D
emphaticleech 2 years ago
I showed this emo looking guy a Sadus song called Certain Death, and he ironically enough, called it "noise"
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
Noise as in Noise Rock? Or just...noise?
Either way..they're metal. Hell, it's got DiGiorgio from Death and Autopsy. That's pretty cool.
emphaticleech 2 years ago
Noise as in just noise. Can you fucking believe that? The fucker listens to this whiney ass shit or songs with fucking retarded lyrics. I wanted to deck him so hard he's fly across the room.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
Bah. That sucks. People need to really stop listening to the trend. I mean..it's always been like that and I guess we never noticed it in the 60s - 90s, depending on when you're born, to notice how many people listen to the generic crap that they only listen to because it's popular.
emphaticleech 2 years ago
Thank God for the resurgence.
KissMeImPunk 2 years ago
I bet this is the first and ONLY time vh1 has shown anything with dead kennedys in it. bit off topic i know but that's my tow cents.
tomorrettisgay 2 years ago 4
played like the beatles at shea stadium????? XD 2 fav bands beatles and green day
BBGum14 2 years ago 9
b4 i liked both of those bands, it was elvis and romones...think about it
impulsetags 2 years ago 2
lol 2 punk bands and the two groups that made music as it is today or just classic rock
BBGum14 2 years ago 2