New Bush Security Plan Admits John Kerry Was Right

[Tsnore]

Rove milked terror for all he could - the politics of fear was easy to sell with the ignorant masses. It got Lord Mush a second term. Kerry didn't help himself in the 2004 campaign when he said he could fight the Iraq war better.

[justmymage]

Its ironic. If US & else want to stop terrorism then gtfo from middle east & taking their oil. They have no reason to do terrorism enymore since

A.US & else is out from imiddle east (accept UN troops etc)

B.They got theil oil back.

[tgoodfella]

i wasn't a fan of john kerry during 2004 election, i don't consider him a flip floper but i think the democrats had better prospects to win the 2004 election.

[mrbriscoe2001]

Crime fighting approach didn't work in the 90's.They didn't want to extradite Obama from Sudan because they didn't have an indictable offense;as long as they get the right guys,assassinations and secret prisons are fine by me. These wackos are too hot to nuke us to play by straight rules.

[roboldguard]

They didn't want to extradite Obama from Sudan because they didn't have an indictable offense"

Possible typo there?

Do agree with your point though. Targeted assasinations and secret detention are a valid stratergy when dealing with the very highest level. However i think the point that was trying to be made by TYTs is that broad scale millitary invasions dont work.

[HammandClov]

typo? yeah, if that person was DRUNK. That's just a stupid comment the person made.

[JOHNINCOLUMBUS]

If you look back to the 1950's these oil countries were still riding camels, they are rich because of us, but they hate us. When the oil is gone they will be riding their camels again because they don't make anything, they simply exist off the oil profits.

[buakawkaoklai]

they right but without a war ...they can get their hands on foreign oil...

[JOHNINCOLUMBUS]

If we did it Kerry's way, Bush/Cheney friends wouldn't be getting rich off the war machine, you know their friends that own the companies that make the weapons...good ridens to the GOP greedy bastards.

[bestlifebiz]

John Kerry being right about anything doesn't change the fact that he's a doofus and politically DEAD.

Move On.

[sultanahmed69]

can someone please tell me where i can find a copy of this robert gates memo so i an rub it in the face of my neocon proffesor

[pwg357]

naive eh?

Maybe your right BUT i disagree.

I'm not trying to solve all our problems in one issue. Yes we have made many mistakes before.

Look I am an avid student of history myself. I know what the patterns are BUT you cant expect a US president to do nothing about foreign terrorists.

It's unrealistic and dangerous.

Just because there are MANY dangers here in "plain sight" does not negate the other.

The truth is we should have the courage to face both with calm determination.

[NyloStar]

Agreed, but I think you can make the argument that calm and determination weren't what we went into Iraq with. It was a frenzy to kick-ass, and determination to end it quickly, like Desert Storm.

[pwg357]

Absolutely

That is why i orginally commented about how i would have approached going after terrorists completely differnt from how the "war on terror" is being waged.

IMO the biggest flaw is that we are fighting an unconventional enemy with the conventional army which is like hoping to win a chess game with checker pieces.

We should use infiltration by highly trained, fiercly loyal arab-americans.

Had we an honest main stream media this would have been the national discussion following 9/11.

[pwg357]

Well if you are in a position of authority such as the US presidency, you have to try to do something.

What's your solution? Do nothing? Spread a peace rainbow?

Who said anything about "kill all the terrorists" anyway? Not me. I think we definetly should be realistic about the situation and expect, no DEMAND, our gov go after those who actively plan to kill us but not in a way that inflames the world against us and by its approach generates even more terrorism.

It's only common sense.

[bestlifebiz]

OK, so we surrender....

Nice goiong...

[JOHNINCOLUMBUS]

Surrender, to who and for what? Your head is up Bush's ass, Bush created the mess we are in, we should hand him and Cheney a gun and let them get their asses blown off, and you can join them.

[rjl2000]

99% of the comments here are Liberal. Of coarse soe idiot marked it as spam. They don't like to hear the truth here!

[bestlifebiz]

Well, I am a democrat for Obama; however, I do not hold to all of the sniveling, weak-ass, fag-loving, baby kiling bullshit and rationalizations.

And if Obama is STUPID enough to pic Kerry as his running mate, I'll vote McCain. I still can't believe people are even talking about that.

Kerry is a total LOSER.

[rjl2000]

That's a good honest answer! I am not for Obama at all. Yes he is stupid but you are right, he is not stupid enough to take Kerry on board. One thing about democrats is...one strike and you are out. Kerry had is chance. It will be interesting to see who he asks to be 2nd in line. Thanks for the conversation!

[DarkProdigy1977]

shadup ya snapper head

[Aadonis219]

describe relatively low gas prices ? & if i may continue who brought home the biggest 4th quarter profit in history ? an oil company -yea so ..thats bullshit. its not the truth its conveinient infotainment that supports your stance-shall I continue ?

[jaim12005]

wow you have issues...

there is help for repugincan supporters without a party leaders going through with drawl..

It is held on Sat nights BYOB and don't forget your hood and robe.

[mrbriscoe2001]

Why does everybody make the KKK republican statements whrn the last member of Congress to be a member of the KKK was a democrat?

[mfiorell]

Because after the Civil Rights movement the Republicans adopted a Southern strategy to win over the disgruntled racist dixiecrats. Democrats shunned these people while the Republicans embraced them.

[JOHNINCOLUMBUS]

Let's not forget the low Congress rating is due to your friends at the GOP blocking any legistation that would move our country forward instead of further in the ditch, which is exactly where the Republican Party has lead this country, namely our soon to be, not soon enough to be ex-president Bush. As for your other comments, it's more GOP bullshit.

[pwg357]

epicurean05

Yeah maybe your right. Maybe your wrong. I would assume to also kill as many of bin laden followers as well in my hypothetical scenario. Not just one guy.

Look my overall point is there is a much more logical way to kill the terrorists who have pledged their lives to destroying America then invaded countries for oil.

Of course the "war on terror" is scam bcuz the actions of the bush adminstration prove it to be BUT the terrorists themselves are real and need to be dealt with.

[lestliness]

Cenk should really finish this statement off with the real reason why Bush occupied Iraq. This is isn't an argument on what to do about terrorism. It was as an opportunity to take advantage of a tragedy and do something the neocons have been wanting to do for years... Occupy Iraq. That's it. I hate it when commentators make it about terrorism and then say look how stupid Bush was he had it wrong. No ..he lied about what his intentions were.

[rjl2000]

This guy looks like he wants to hump John Kerry's leg!

[eirefrance]

Thats what you have to say? You couldn't have just finished your fingerpainting and taken a nap, you had to butt in with your 'opinion'.

[pwg357]

well i know that the bush family and bin laden family have business connections and the bush adminstration let all the members of the bin laden family fly out of the country after 9/11.

But i fail to see what that has to do with my point about how i would have combatted terrorism had i been president.

The truth is i dont think bush gives a rat's ass about finding bin laden OR fighting terrorists at all.

he knows he aint going be the one dying on ANY battlefield EVER and he laughs at us all.

[Encyclopeteia]

As usual, the more hard-hitting, damaging and spot-on the TYT analysis is, the more conservative trolls come out of the woodwork for baseless bashing and personal attacks.

[doboy09]

Kerry was right and this new plan is right about terrorism...but Bush and Kerry are all the same and all want the same thing. They wulda went 2 war after 9/11.

[youwhatisaid]

Democrats talk the talk, but when it comes down to it, they will bomb just as many brown people as the republicans, they will just justify it with "think of the children", rather than the republican "think of the oil prices". Look at the opinions of Obamas foreign policy guy, he is insane, he wants to bomb pakistan next, and wants to ratchet up the pressure on russia and china for more war.

[ponyboy316]

Republicans use children just as much.

[Visfen]

I said this in 2001. In the eve of 9/11, man was I unpopular...

People don't wanna hear the truth, they want the lies, and that is why the liars become presidents.

[pwg357]

That's funny cuz i was saying the same thing right after 9/11 as well.

It has always seemed obvious to me that the real way to win against foreign terrorists is to use our strength of ethnic diversity against them.

We would be far better protecting the arab-american community than scapegoating them. That way we could recruit them for work as counter-terrorists,infiltrator­s, and spies.

Had i been Prez in 2001, Bin Laden's head would have adorned the white house christmas tree by December.

[Mailman29680]

Who says uh more, Obama or this ass?

[tallflguy]

Is that all you can take out of what Cenk had to say. You must be another typical closed minded right wing tool.

[Mailman29680]

Uh,uh-- all I want to take.All I could take from this dribble.His analysis is always way off and childish as is most of his viewers.Seven uh's in the first 10 seconds, uh what's up with that.Childish imitations on every Cenk video.Stick to the facts and liberals always lose.Show me where anybody "admits" John Kerry was right. False statements throughout this video alone.Uh,stuttering and stammering also. Just like Obama

[tallflguy]

Cenk didn't say that someone admitted that Kerry was right. Cenk was just talking about recent documentation that Robert Gates released in where he said that "terriosm should be more crime fighting than war fighting" and "we should be more sensitive of how we fight this war". These are talking points that John Kerry was saying back in 2004 when he was running for President. Bush and Chenney criticized Kerry heavily for having this type of strategy of fighting terrorism.

[Mailman29680]

52 seconds in bitch- You made me watch this crap again.

[tallflguy]

Watch who you call a bitch, asshole

[HMFRiverdale]

WHat liars. . . kerry never said anything of the kind. Kerry's plan was the same as Barry's: SURRENDER. . .no more, no less. .

get a grip and stop revising history. .you filthy animals

Peace out

[trahouston]

Surrender from what, don't you know the war on terrorism is a plot to fund a neverending war. It's more about halliburton than it is about terrorism, it's people like you who are so brainwashed you can't see the forest from the trees. Go back to your perfect little privileged world in riverdale and drink an iced coffee and listen to fixed news. We'll be on the front lines trying to save you from yourself.

[HMFRiverdale]

trahouston, you are a fucking kook. Kerry should be in prison for his anti Amercian activities during vietnam.

You are just a POS who doesn't know WTF you are writing. An insufferable know it all, who doesn't know a fucking thing.

I hope you get cancer and die.. . .you are too stupid to exist.

Peace out

[BojanglesofScotts]

i like it when mentally retarded people like you find computers and get on youtube. it makes me laugh

[Mailman29680]

52 seconds he says it and @ 2:04 he says it again.The very title shows how Cenk is misleading with his words.You state clearly, "Cenk didn't say that someone admitted that Kerry was right"- Listen again, maybe for the first time. By the way we were wrong--Who is he referring to?

[Mailman29680]

BITTER- They just can't let it go

[flyhye]

crime fighting I agree,

[Richardgwm]

Intelligence is not this administration's strength.

[UlyssesBreckenridge]

Sounds like FOX NEWS.

[GirlyWilde9]

Yeah, I shouldn't make so much fun of Turk-Jerk.  It's probably very cool that victims of Down Syndrome have a representative on You-Tube.

[czerss]

I'm a Republican but all the protestant christian george bush loving faggots should all be shot in the god damn face.

[glenlivetrocks]

Wow. You cut and paste your same lame ass comments on a different video?

Now I know, your dad was a Republican. But, what he did to you, that's not the norm. Your dad/party is not supposed to fuck you.

Hmm... in high school, did you go by the name, "finger cuffs?"

[jlgrounds]

Of course now the neo-cons will say ' Hindsight is 20/20 or some other f**king platitude like they always do. On his way out - Said he was going to leave the War and the Economy to the next president...sorry bout all this...Bush should be impeached for the lying scum that he is (no not getting a BJ in the oval office but LYING and committing treason and disregarding his frigging oath to this country. Hopefully the George W Bush sewage treatment plant name will pass...

[hypnofan35]

Just cooperating with the Republican Admin is getting sucked in. And they should pay attention to the fact they the Republican Admin were the blame placing perps of 911 and no one else. They might have been absent at the scene of the crime, but that is what operatives are form. Following 911 everything is staged and a setup. We can act like things are going on that are not being staged. Probably all the information out of the Middle East is either being spun or buggered.

[jtilak]

i wouldn't use the word "nuisance." it kinda trivializes what happened on september 11 2001. but i agree with everything else. you don't start wars over the actions of individuals. it would be like starting a war over the oklahoma city bombing

[woosteria]

So true!

[allocater]

Congratulation Americans, Europeans say this to for 7 years now!

[brocoliskism1]

The U.S. Needs to hire The Dark Knight.

[PeakOilCountdown]

The US needs to be in the middle east bcaus of the natural resources. If you want the war to end, sell your car and buy local!--I don't believe that different leadership would have evaded these conflicts for long.

[Himechansexytightass]

To those that want the same good policies (coughMcCaincough), please fucking tell me what they have done right.

[RomeoMD25]

No such thing as war on terror

when da US works with countries like Saudi Arabia,Pakistan,Egypt

[swaggajee]

The last 4 years of the Iraq war have been a total waste!! In 2003 the military leaders said we needed a surge. Took the Bushies 4 years to finally take that advice. Now John Kerry's advice from 4 years ago is finally being talked about in the Bush Administration.

And ya'll seriously want 4 years of McCain? The Republicans are completely incompetant with everything. The economy, nation building, illegal wars, enforcing the Constitution, etc.

[MikeRoch6969]

there not incompetent, their just making too much money on this war

[FeelFreeToArgue]

Yeah, Naomi Klein pointed out that many key players made out very well in Iraq.

I think it's interesting that the Iraqi govt is not capitulating to Bush on the SOFA agreements Bush wants so badly. I think they, like the Iranians, are just trying to grit their teeth and wait out this administration.

I still seems like BushCo is going to be around for a long time. Lots of mischief they can still get into.

[unluvable]

I'm not sure why you've gotten so many thumbs up for your comment. The surge had nothing to do with reduced violence in Iraq. It was the efforts of Captain Patriquin that produced the Anbar Awakening. God rest his soul. He was a true hero in every sense, who made the best out of a totally unnecessary situation.

Not to take away from the thrust of your comment, because I believe we're on the same page when it comes to McCain, but I just want to set the record straight about the surge.

[swaggajee]

Oh, I know that the surge certainly wasn't a main reason for the violence in Iraq going down. Your reason, paying our enemies cold hard cash, Bahgdad essentially being enthically cleansed, etc. all had bigger parts than the Surge did.

I was just using it as an example of the Bushies incompetance. I mean the Bushies (McCain included) just love to use it at every chance they get. So I like to point out that they wasted 4 years of the war to implement the "winning cause" of the war.

[Montagraph]

Exactly!

[kwestyunz]

He was right all along...