@Jontydarocker Constant Release is Just what is says. When you strike the B.D. head with the beater, you get out of the way of the rebound (accept the rebound). It's called "Constant release" because you release the rebound on the down-stroke, and the up-stoke. Both strikes are manipulated by the ball of your foot. NOT HEAL-TOE. There is no contact with your heal on the pedal
Control. I don't really practice this without a spring. I can do it without one because I have complete control of the rebound/ bounce. So, I don't need the spring to get clean response. I made the video because someone on the "Drummerworld" forum said I couldn't.
Control. I don't really practice this without a spring. I can do it without one because I have complete control of the rebound/ bounce. So, I don't need the spring to get clean response. I made the video because someone on the "Drummerworld" forum said I couldn't.
First thing I did was work on both moves up & down seperately. I had always played heal-up, so I had to get my heal-down stronger. So , I went through pg's 5-7 in Stick Control for 6 months all heal-down. I also started practicing Constant Release the way Steve Smith suggests. Then I worked on swiveling singles to get that move strong and flexible. Then I added the Constant Release to each side movement. Never bury the beater, accept the rebound, redirect. Just like dribbling a ball. T
The fact that you can do it at all without a spring is great. Just relax & keep at it. Do some drills to get your leg stronger. Like stick control for feet, example-pg.5 1-24 1 min. each, SLOWLY. Or just single stroke rolls in both heal-up & heal-down positions, 5 min each a day. Learn to get out of the way of the pedal(accept rebound). Were does it hurt? I bet its your shin muscles.
yea!!! my wrist was killen me because i never stretch before i play in general and when my wrist started to hurt the guys at my drum shop said to stretch now, though it my hurt a lil and keeping stretching!! and it has helped A TON!!!!! but adding protein??? hmm......never thought of that one!!!! it makes sense though!!! :P
Like I said, building drumming muscles works on the same principles as all the muscles in your body. Work out to strain the muscles, ingest protein as fuel to rebuild the muscles. It's essential.
is there any potential for injury here like those people that tell people to practise their sticks on a pillow - thats askin too much for the wrists/in this case ankles to do,and miniises toe dexterity surely...rather,on a pad like that,theres consistent rebound,what about kick heads where u need them pretty slack?
this is all very intersting im curious what a pro like ur self has to say on the matter
Injury usually happens when you bury the beater into the drum head, not from bouncing the beater off the drumhead. You don't need the beater to bounce more than one time for each stroke (one for the down-stroke, one for the up-stroke). The feel of this B.D. practice pad is the closest to a real B.D. that I have found. It's not very bouncy. It feels "slack" as you put it. I play my B.D. with pretty loose tension.......T (SEVNT7)
Very Buddy Rich thing to do, practicing without the spring. This is the same technique as what Steve Smith demonstrates on his DVD. Very cool none the less.
Hey just watching that Steve Smith video, is constant release a good method to learn, I see the pros and cons but I don't know of any other techniques, I wouldn't want to dedicate a lot of time to something thats not great. Thanks Sean
Yamaha Flying Dragons. with straps, and I hate the Yamaha linkage, So know I use a modified DW linkage. Much better. Less latency.
SEVNT7 9 months ago
what pedals are those?
allmetaliswelcome 10 months ago
@Jontydarocker Constant Release is Just what is says. When you strike the B.D. head with the beater, you get out of the way of the rebound (accept the rebound). It's called "Constant release" because you release the rebound on the down-stroke, and the up-stoke. Both strikes are manipulated by the ball of your foot. NOT HEAL-TOE. There is no contact with your heal on the pedal
SEVNT7 1 year ago
Control. I don't really practice this without a spring. I can do it without one because I have complete control of the rebound/ bounce. So, I don't need the spring to get clean response. I made the video because someone on the "Drummerworld" forum said I couldn't.
SEVNT7 1 year ago
Control. I don't really practice this without a spring. I can do it without one because I have complete control of the rebound/ bounce. So, I don't need the spring to get clean response. I made the video because someone on the "Drummerworld" forum said I couldn't.
SEVNT7 1 year ago
why would you want to do this without the spring? does it help strengthen the muscles?
ktkdrummer 1 year ago
There's not many bass pedals that allow you to throw off the spring so easily.
Dreammotive 2 years ago
its sick how you incorporated swivel with constant release!!! how long did it take you to get it down pat????
dartthewarrior 3 years ago 2
First thing I did was work on both moves up & down seperately. I had always played heal-up, so I had to get my heal-down stronger. So , I went through pg's 5-7 in Stick Control for 6 months all heal-down. I also started practicing Constant Release the way Steve Smith suggests. Then I worked on swiveling singles to get that move strong and flexible. Then I added the Constant Release to each side movement. Never bury the beater, accept the rebound, redirect. Just like dribbling a ball. T
SEVNT7 3 years ago
i tried just playing constant release with out the spring and in like 30 seconds my legs started to give!!! is that normal???
dartthewarrior 3 years ago
The fact that you can do it at all without a spring is great. Just relax & keep at it. Do some drills to get your leg stronger. Like stick control for feet, example-pg.5 1-24 1 min. each, SLOWLY. Or just single stroke rolls in both heal-up & heal-down positions, 5 min each a day. Learn to get out of the way of the pedal(accept rebound). Were does it hurt? I bet its your shin muscles.
SEVNT7 3 years ago
ya, my shins kill me when i get done, especially after heel down!!!
dartthewarrior 3 years ago 3
Its a good thing. Building muscles for drumming is the same as building muscles for athletics. Workout, stretch, protein, repeat.
garrettmillerdrums 3 years ago
yea!!! my wrist was killen me because i never stretch before i play in general and when my wrist started to hurt the guys at my drum shop said to stretch now, though it my hurt a lil and keeping stretching!! and it has helped A TON!!!!! but adding protein??? hmm......never thought of that one!!!! it makes sense though!!! :P
dartthewarrior 3 years ago
Like I said, building drumming muscles works on the same principles as all the muscles in your body. Work out to strain the muscles, ingest protein as fuel to rebuild the muscles. It's essential.
garrettmillerdrums 3 years ago
sweet deal!!!
dartthewarrior 3 years ago
nicely done
is there any potential for injury here like those people that tell people to practise their sticks on a pillow - thats askin too much for the wrists/in this case ankles to do,and miniises toe dexterity surely...rather,on a pad like that,theres consistent rebound,what about kick heads where u need them pretty slack?
this is all very intersting im curious what a pro like ur self has to say on the matter
queenmcsleaze 3 years ago 2
Injury usually happens when you bury the beater into the drum head, not from bouncing the beater off the drumhead. You don't need the beater to bounce more than one time for each stroke (one for the down-stroke, one for the up-stroke). The feel of this B.D. practice pad is the closest to a real B.D. that I have found. It's not very bouncy. It feels "slack" as you put it. I play my B.D. with pretty loose tension.......T (SEVNT7)
SEVNT7 3 years ago
that was really cool man
great practice technique, i might try that
lespaul32 3 years ago 4
Very Buddy Rich thing to do, practicing without the spring. This is the same technique as what Steve Smith demonstrates on his DVD. Very cool none the less.
markthedrum 3 years ago 2
thats because this is steve smiths constant release technique...
littlephoenix1115 3 years ago
Actually he got it from Freddie Gruber, I got it from the 1st Steve Gadd video, "Steve Gadd Up Close"
SEVNT7 3 years ago
interesting... good to know...
littlephoenix1115 3 years ago
Hey just watching that Steve Smith video, is constant release a good method to learn, I see the pros and cons but I don't know of any other techniques, I wouldn't want to dedicate a lot of time to something thats not great. Thanks Sean
GlidinSmooth 2 years ago