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  • @ :54, that's a contrail

  • I just looked at this video as i liked bills video on the Canadian debt, If I was to hazord a guess If they are not just contrails then they might be geoengenering an attempt to stay the effects of global warming. This might be done to quell public concern over rising temperatures so they can continue to per sure oil and other fossil fuels.

  • These planes come from Whitby island army base just a few miles as the crow flies down south from you guys and not to far from where i live.They have started spraying at night and earlier in the morning.People don't want to know what is going today they just want their starbucks and t.v it is a sad statement for society peace and thank -you for all the good work you are doing

  • I too have been documenting and filming when "spray on clouds" are present in Vancouver. It is mostly in the summer after 1 sunny day. It is worrisome to say the least.

  • SR1419 is indeed working for the government/disinfo because there has been numerous scientific results revealing amounts of Barium, Aluminum, and many more toxins throughout enviroments that have absolutely no way to get there unless it was refined and brought there.

  • I really wish that these chemtrail supporters would do their homework properly!

    They reference other YouTube chemtrail videos without even looking at them.

    Even if they look fully at the referenced video, they then embellish the part of the video they quote.

  • Keep up the amazing work and awareness!! So nice to see we have leaders in our communities like this who are helping EMPOWER THE PEOPLE! <3 one love.

  • to the dip shits that thumb this down, U should be tied up and made to swallow a gallon of barium and aluminum!

  • So this guy is an expert on what is a regular cloud and what isn't (02:50)? Um... neither a contrail or a chemtrail would be a regular cloud (if chemtrails existed, which they don't). Doesn't that make this guy an expert in a field that has nothing to do with the science of contrails? Sure seems that way.

  • thanks

  • STOP THE SPRAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • great work folks keep it up ,i dont know anybody in my town that has heard of them but they are there all the time ,and if you point them out they say it contrail from planes that are using the airport in glasgow 20 miles from where i stay ,but that makes no sense cos if they watched the planes go to and fro from glasgow they would know how a contrail acts as the air in scotland is very cold most of the year,the sky is full of both chems and cons which you can see disappear as the cons go away

  • @reksub10 "the air in scotland is very cold most of the year"

    Just makes Ur IGNORANCE quite explicit

    The air EVERYWHERE gets COLDER with altitude, so that FIVE MILES UP it has fallen to AT LEAST -40

    I mean EVERYWHERE - the Sahara, the POLES, the Amazon, the Australian Outback - EVERYWHERE

    It is ALWAYS COLD up there

    The other FACT is that WATER VAPOR is INVISIBLE

    This MUST mean that TRAIL conditions favorable for TRAILS are the very same CLOUD conditions that are favorable 4 CLOUDS

    & U're STUPID

  • Thanks for sounding the alarm..

  • Omg you people are lunitics. Living in your own world that OUR government is planning to kill us all...Bunch of idiots.

  • I see the disinformation spreading chemtrail deniers are here again. They are so easy to spot because they always want to insult somebody but never actually discuss the evidence and the science in a mature and productive manner such that we might try to achieve a mutual understanding of this obvious and pervasive phenomenon.

  • @creamrising, That's because they are paid liars. People the government paid 4.7 billion dollars to spread dis-info in the Internet. WHo else would spend hours and hours of their day writing bull shit & calling names like little school boys. Notice they are mostly male by 90%. They also have empty accounts with zero friends but the co-shills and they can be found on all these chemtrails sites. Then there are the 911 shills and they are assigned to those. Once you figure that out they're busted!

  • @zenman44 no, that is the story you guys like to say to support you baseless claims and skewed view of reality.

  • @jnthnbush wrong troll. Your just a seasoned shill. Look at his page people. He has 2 videos! people know the truth. Baseless claims? They admit it. The govt. and NWO lapdog scientists are coming out with it. Even the congressmen run from questions. Just watch "what in the hell are they spraying" for the truth. They are not commercial planes they are private contractors and military planes spraying aluminum and barium. Expalin why Monsanto admits to aluminum/barium resistant plants? No brainer!

  • @zenman44 yea, again call me a shill, you whole argument fails every time you call a person who disagree with you a shill or dis-info agent or NWO person. But the biggest fail is that everyone with the right mind and basic understand of how things work knows that this is a bunch of crap and it all for the LOLs that we come here to hassle you retards.

  • @jnthnbush you are shill! That's a fact! who would spend 8 hours a day if they weren't getting paid. It's you fool who thinks anybody would waste this much time just to have fun. If this isn't true why do you spend countless hours here? If you lie to people about chemtrails why not lie about one use of chemtrails. HAARP. Are you going to say it is a conspiracy or a lie? HAARP uses chemtrails for conductivity. ie aluminum, barium etc. You can't make people believe your lies when its on TV Fool!

  • @zenman44 I spend 8 hours a day doing what? really, if were spending 8 hours a day making comments online about stuff, I think I would have made more progress than a few comments per week. I enjoy looking at these videos and reading these comments, in the same way people like watching The Jersey Shore. And to the rest of your comment is just adding to my enjoyment of how ridiculous all your dribble is. I do spend alot of time watching videos online, about alot of other stuff, see my subs.

  • @zenman44 and you have 1 video... That means he's got 1 more video then you do.

  • @jnthnbush News Story Dude or dudette. Blue Snow this past winter in the Philly area. look up the chemical color of aluminum. then write back if U dare! or just eat the snow next winter if U don't think this is happening. oh and eat it along with the yellow snow!

  • @generationaluv imma dude, u? anyways that would be great evidence, indirect but a good start. I am still waiting to see more of the real samples in these videos, telling people to 'look up" or "open your eyes" is not really a great method for proving anything.

  • @jnthnbush no disrespect, but this topic is starting to piss me the f off! everyday damn day I look up and see this shit. the past 3 days started off with crystal blue skies in the early a.m. then by mid-day they became totally chemtrailed/cloudy . the forecast for the past 3 days was for totally clear! (philly here). dude here. something is going on and nobody. generally, gives a c!

  • @generationaluv lol, your funny, you really think there is a enough planes in the world that can put that many clouds in the sky in one day? One of the biggest problems of you theorists is that you barely understand how the atmosphere works. I live in the Lehigh valley, grew up in the Philly burbs, so I am right near you. I know it was sunny forecast over the last few days, Saturday started of beautiful but it rained later in the day. The weather forecasts are not 100% correct deal with it.

  • @jnthnbush my wife is from Allentown! cool! but I was referring to Sunday, Monday, Tuesday that called for no clouds at all. there were none in the a.m. and by noon, the sky was full of chemtrails and a hazy cloud formation that seemed completely unnatural. if they were clouds, then cool but why can we now see those fuzzy rainbows around the sun that we could never see before? what is that?

  • @generationaluv if you were to have pictures to compare and or had a meteorological degree, I believe you when you claim that they are chemtrails, but without out prior knowledge of atmospheric effects or a scientific study on cloud formations your accusations hold no water.

  • @jnthnbush no pun intended I assume! anyway, yeah, I dig it! really doesn't matter mcuh anyway since wth can i do about it. just keep breathing it and see what "comes up".

  • I live in Los Angeles and it happened again yesturday starting in the am then again around four. The sky was pretty blue when I woke up and no reports that we where going to have cloudy skys, how-ever I watched them spray the sky for hours and by noon the sky was covered by a thick gray cloud. Today not has bad but they still have sprayed some.

  • @chocolateindulgence1 yeah, it is amazing that very few people notice or care! glad you do. even if we can't do anything about it, awareness is always the key to any change. and I just want to know the truth even if it isn't what I want to hear. I told my wife the other day that they were taking a break, but then on Saturday, they were out in full force. the blue sky turned into not-so-blue!

  • I guess they are spraying EVERYWHERE!!! wow!!! insanity!!!

  • check my site and START BUSTING CHEMTRAILS! It'll take you less than 2 minutes to make what you see. it works and it is GREAT! check my video now and act pls.

  • I understand that mycoplasma is also contained in the chemtrails. It is the tiny pathogen smaller than a virus that makes normal diseases more virulent so that the real causes of people dieing or developing neurosystemic diseases is hard to pinpoint....

  • new world order bastard jesuits  !

  • everyoone plz file an FOIA and complaint with

    Domestic Event Network

    7-AWA-ARC-FOIA@faa. gov

    Office: 202 267-8276

    Notes:

    A FOIA request should be filed in writing with the FOIA Officer, ARC-40, 800 Independence Avenue, S.W., Washington, DC 20591, or by email to 7-AWA-ARC-FOIA@faa. gov.

    Do not use your real name and address.

    I filed several requests and they refuse to disclose any information.

    They seem real interested to know my true identity though !

  • does anyone have a link or info for the Espinosa lawsuit that she mentions ?

  • Chemtrails are real,folks.And these materials ARE in the air that you and i breathe.Our children and pets are also being affected.

  • does anyone know what these Sundogs are? always around chemtrails... There are 3 blinding sundogs suddenly appearing in a video I posted here called Hardcore Chemtrail Haters Only! WTF ?

  • @LibranEsq - Sundogs, halos etc...are made by light being refracted thru ice...

    Contrails are made of ice crystals...the water vapor from the exhaust condenses then freezes into ice crystals...if the ambient air is humid enuff they will persist.

    Ice and water refract light into bows, sundogs, halos etc.....metal can't refract light. See here for more info on atmospheric optics:

    atoptics.co.uk

  • @JimBridger100 don't listen to this paid govt. shill @libranEsq. Hes the biggest traitor. We all know chemtrails or persistent contrails what ever they call them do not com from commercial jets. They're military or private companies like Evergreen, have no windows or markings and fly in areas comm. jets don't. Fly Lower & put barium, aluminum &other toxic metals, plastics and nano particles. Remember these people have families who breath it and money's more important! Lowest scum of Earth! LOSER

  • I don't understand people like zenman who ignore basic, irrefutable facts in favor of complete speculation...speculation based on ignorance...

    Its sad to think people really are that stupid, gullible and afraid...they think some random video on you tube is "proof"...and physics is "disinfo"

    wtf?

  • @JimBridger100, another shill surfaces to help his fellow traitors fail at changing people's minds. It's not working. Click on his site. He has 234 views from people looking and finding his empty shell wall. Zero videos, zero favorites, 2 friends. This is common & the friends are co-shills. The lady in the video say contrails have been measured to last no more than 20 minutes under rare conditions. Chemtrails are different and last all day. Rain is tested to have aluminum, barium & polymers.

  • @zenman44 ...so...believe " the lady in the video" but disregard 60yrs of scientific research...the irrefutable proof of physics...the very laws of nature that shows how contrails can persist for hours and spread...

    wow.

  • @JimBridger100 We don't need to "believe" the woman. You shills aren't talking about religion which is blind faith & one "believes" or 'disbelieves" in chems. We're seeing it with our own eyes. We know what used to be & the planet has changed. You say theres 60 years science that contrails persist. Who cares? Why spend money on it unless it was used as cover up.Even if one "believed" contrails can persist does not mean there aren't chemicals like aluminum and barium in them. Give it up NWO tool!

  • @zenman44 - wow - yer kind of an idiot huh? Who cares?" the entire premise of the theory is "contrails dissipate- chemtrails don't" ...so, if contrails really CAN persist- then the ENTIRE THEORY is based on a false premise. You don't think contrails can persist- your wrong- you BELIEVE what you see in the sky is something else...without actually knowing...so, yes you have blind faith in "chemtrails". That contrails can persist is a proven FACT not a belief. you CHOOSE to ignore it...so be it.

  • @JimBridger100,your name fits. Go back under the bridge you live & get a new gig.How much do they pay you shills Jim? You have kids, parents, relatives? What do they think about you lying about the truth? Your family breaths the poison air and food too.Your argument about chemtrails vs. contrails is outdated. Around the world its admitting they are geoengineering the planet. Wigington is expert scientist! watch?v=7ucv44urMek&feature=Pl­ayList&p=3DCA3E666A7E363A&play­next_from=PL&index=0&playnext=­1

  • @JimBridger100 I'm real curious how you guys work. Are you assigned to popular videos and rotate? Fill me in? What kind of pay do you guys get. I know you get paid because nobody would spend the kind of time doing this just to satisfy themeselves in calling people chemtards. Who do you work for? Is it one of the intelligence agancies? You guys are real bottom feeders. What is it like sell out your countrymen and children? You all have similar styles. Suppose you are a real person and are wrong?

  • @JimBridger100 BTW, Jim is a troll who lives under a bridge. He picked the name. You suck at your job. At least the others like Larry333 and SR1419 try to support their lies with fake science. You only call names. Typical Zionist tactics immediately identified as phony. Get a new job fool. Your success rate converting people must be about 1% You are totally ineffective. Why don't you try and dispute the new film "What In The World Are They Spraying"? Want an expert scientist? watch?v=W1-yh0Jhg6E

  • ...and there you have it...incoherent rambling from a "chemtard". He has nothing but insults and paranoia to hide behind the truth that he is clueless.

    That film is filled with same bogus crap just regurgitated...KSLA report- debunked years ago....SHasta water tests- debunked...Contrails don't persist?? Fail

    Its not wonder you think physics is "fake"

    You're too ignorant to even know how stupid you really are

    I would laugh if it wasn't so sad to think there R people out there like U

    U FAIL

  • @JimBridger100 I suppose all you guys who are so few come on here call people chemtards are all metiorologists right? You scientists come to share your great knowledge with the world. But nobody believes you and you just look like the NWO tool that you are. Didn't watch the film? G E Griffin is a good film maker. The people are expert and not repeated stuff. The reason for the chemtrials show how bad it is for our soil and the people. Its' poison that you and your family are breathing too tool!

  • @JimBridger100 why don't you get off here you F*king liar JB100! You are a NWO dick sucker. How many dicks do you have to suck before you move to a "real job" away from your youtube trolling job? You suck you traitor! They are admitting in Cancun right now at the global summit for the global warming hoax that they are chemtrailing. Guess you will be getting a new job dick for breath!

  • @Skywitness right I have brought this up and even the dumber shill will tell you the plane is only going through a patch of cold and warm air causing the on and off so they always the same. They tell you the same shit when one day you see them and the next day you don't. They lie and say the planes are always there but weather changes. This way they are always right no matter what. It is the same lie global warming alarmists use. Cold weather=climate change hot weather= global warming. They lose

  • Wow. Z-man you are really freaky...a little too far down the rabbit hole methinks...

  • @Larry- Ha- I see Z44 has switched his ignorant ramblings to you...good luck! He simply refuses to acknowledge scientific fact, historical precedent...he has no desire to discuss the actual science of the atmosphere...and will just call you a liar and shill if you try.

  • @SR1419 no I haven't switched You stopped responding & this shill Larry took over. For all I know you are the same person You talk exactly the same. You have zero friends. Zero videos, scarecrow accounts. It is so obvious to the casual observer. We will never agree but you are both beat now. This new documentary proves without any doubt the truth about chemtrials and the spraying of deadly chemicals. Something you traitorous shills deny. watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q&p=00AD0B75­1D133728&playnext=1&index=30

  • @zenman44 - ...and thats the problem- you think a bunch of unsubstantiated claims with no sources or evidence is "proof"...whilst I rely on facts, the science.

    Actually, it was you who stopped responding...you never answered the question- what do you know about the science of contrails? Why- in your expert mind- can't they persist?

    What makes you so sure that 1000s of scientists over decades are all wrong...and you are right?

  • @SR1419, Wrong my questions got too touch for you so you got your coworker pagan Larry 666 to help you. Where is your so called proof? Show us the videos. You show the most obvious fake data and still pictures that would be laughed out of court. the proof of chemtrails or aerosol geo-engineering is everywhere. It is the elephant in the room and the people you are helping can't contain the info all over the world anymore which is why they want to close the Internet and are closing blogs daily!

  • @zenman44 - proof? you wouldn't know proof if hit you over the head. I can show you photos of persistent contrails from ever decade- you would just claim its fake. I can show you 100s of peer-reviewed scientific papers from around the world over the last 60 yrs- you would just claim its "fake data"...and yet are so eager to accept a 10yr old girls world for it...you are simply a bunch of noise spewing on the internet....no substance, no understanding of reality...just fear...they R coming for U

  • @zenman44 - I could show you in a lab how a contrail is formed, under what conditions its persists and why it spreads...but you would just say its "disinfo" - you really have lost touch with reality...

    Did the 10 yrs old girl use a control sample? did she protect the sample from contamination? did she do a repeat test? Why do you believe her but not actual scientists from the last 60yrs....you are clueless...and will continue to fail in life...you know its true.

  • @SR1419 , People who have been around for decades & observed jets, other aircraft, contrails, clouds + their associated behaviour already know how normal contrails & aircraft behave under varying weather conditions. We can discern the genuine article from the counterfiets which we see increasingly infiltrating our skies. Those counterfiets are the product of stratospheric aerosal geo-engineering & military ops. We know the truth.

  • @ingodsgarden Amen.

  • @SR1419 in your lab experiment can you get 2 contrails in the same conditions and get 1 to disapear and the other to remain and spread out?? cos we see the tcons dissapear at the same time in the same bit of sky a chemtrail is hanging for over an hour after the contrail dissapears

  • @reksub10 - It is possible for 2 trails in the same sky to behave differently...why are there clouds in one spot but not another? clouds have gaps....

    Conditions may be perfect for persistent contrails at 38K ft- but at 40k feet it conditions may be drier so the trail will not persist. The atmosphere can vary from spot to spot or be uniform across large areas...atmosphere moves like fluid...lots of variability -

  • @rek - watch this vid from cockpit of a plane- 2 planes approaching- the lower one in a more humid layer leaving a long persistent trail...higher plane leaving a short dissipating trail

    watch?v=95HS8VQO4ig

    (copy tag into YT search box)

    conditions can vary from altitude to altitude...thats why different types of clouds at different altitudes...or clouds in one part of the sky but not another

    engine plays a role too: google this & read: "Influence of propulsion efficiency on contrail formation

  • @JimBridger100 thank you very much for the info and the vid recomendation i have been fascinated with this debate for a while now but i havent formed any opinion as of yet as im still studying the different atmospheric conditions and such.im no scientist lol im just interested in what these are ,but the drop lots of stuff from planes all the time like fuel dumps and such so there is probarly a load os differing factors involved in making these ..are they harmful ?thats the question i cant answer

  • @zenman44 "We will never agree"

    Hmmm...I wonder why...

    YOU are the traitor...and your ignorance is no excuse. You are accusing your own people of harming you based on the ridiculous nonsense posted on youtube by OTHER ignorant morons...and you accept it as fact because of "confirmation bias" (look it up!) You are literally too ignorant to understand that you are ignorant in the subjects of aviation and atmospheric science. I'm glad you live in fear of the trails..You deserve to live like that

  • funny how gullible people like Zenman think physics is a lie. Decades of proven scientific fact is somehow "propaganda".

    The papers suggested by SR are but a samples of the 100s written over the last 50yrs...1000s of contrail samples right from the plume, 1000s of contrails recreated in labs...to suggest the atmospheric science regarding contrail formation and persistence is somehow fake is simply a disconnect from reality.

    People like Z make me fear for the future...ignorance at its worst

  • @Larryonoff333, well, a new shill enters the picture. What brought you here? You fear for the future? I fear the future because so many US citizens are willing to sell out their families & countrymen for $. You talk just like SR1419. You're all in the same classroom ha? I'll say this.You,SR and papahockyboy are never going to sway anyone from knowing the truth they're seeing chemtrials. People aren't as stupid as you & your bosses think. Even years of dumbing down with fluoride and TV you lose!.

  • @Z - actually you DO appear to be quite stupid. You reject the basic, observable, provable laws of nature in favor of fear, ignorance and hysteria then in fear of being wrong - accuse any one who disagrees with your ignorance as a "shill" .

    It is a typical tactic of failure

    I have read thru the comments...U have been exposed as intellectually bankrupt. U refuse to accept proven facts that contradict your beliefs, you spew lies as if they R true, avoid Qs that expose your ignorance

    You Fail

  • @Larryonoff333 why don't you address my questions? You guys, SR1419, papahockeybr come on here with no picture, no profile, zero friends, zero videos, you all talk the same like your know it all scientists and call people names like stupid, crazy, conspiracy theorists. You are all the same and you will fool a few and will have a 95% failure rate. See genius, people don't have to go find someone like you to tell them about science they don't care. They know what they are seeing is bad & different

  • @zenman44 - what questions? Why don't YOU address the topic at hand? Why do you think the physics that proves why contrails can persist and spread is wrong?

    Can you refute the science? if not, you have no basis for argument, no intellectual ground upon which to even discuss this.

    Physics is not a lie.

  • @Larryonoff333 Whos' stupid? You think people are gullible enough to believe you. See what you can't prove as lies is all the whistleblowers coming out in all areas chemtrails are no different. There are scientists working within the program and military people admitting they are activly spraying people & now even the government is admitting it. Dennis Kucinich wrote it in a bill calling them chemtrials. You shills need a new job. look: naturalnews(dot)com/022816_che­micals_government_health.html

  • @zenman44 - they do not have to believe ME!- they can do the research themselves. They can review decades of scientific research on contrail formation and persistence. They can educate themselves on the science of the atmosphere and understand the nature of contrail formation. They can learn the basic physics that dictates the behavior of jet exhaust in the atmosphere,. They can view pics of persistent contrail from every decade....

    ...or they can just believe ignorant fools like you.

  • @zenman44 - not surprisingly- you are wrong. Kucinich DIDN'T write that bill- it was written by Carol Rosin and Alfred Webre...both UFO enthusiasts. Kucinich merely sponsored the bill- and did so only after "chemtrails" was taken out. Just because the term made it into a version of a bill that never even made it to the floor of the house- doesn't make it true...the bill also had "extraterrestrial weapons"- Fail. try again.

  • @larryonoff333, PEOPLE HE IS NO DOUBT AN AGENT PROVOCATEUR. HAS ZERO VIDEOS. SAYS HE'S 77 YEARS OLD.LOOK AT HIS SITE! 0 FRIENDS, 0 SUBS, BUT 50 CHANNEL VIEWS? A MEMBER FOR A YEAR? COULD BE THE SAME GUY AS SR1419 NOT SURE BUT DOESN'T MATTER HE'S PAID BY GOOGLE TO LIE. THE WORST KIND OF TRAITOR. HE IS A SPY AND IN THE DAYS THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON WERE HUNG AS TRAITORS AND SPYS. LOOK AT THE GUYS ANSWERS. ALL THE SAME.infowars(DOT)com/german-s­cientist-exposes-chemtrails-as­-military-operations/

  • @z -so...I guess the answer is NO...U can't refute the science...your only option now is yell that I am "spy" cuz I have no vids...very sound logic there Z-man.

    paid by google?? thats hilarious. please point out one single thing I have said that is a lie...you won't cuz you can't.

    if you want to think scientific facts are lies...then I guess water doesn't freeze at 32f.

    My &SR14 answers are similar cuz reality is like that....if its a fact, its a fact and crying on your part won't change that

  • @Larryonoff333, all of what you said is a lie pagan Larry. See a crime as big as chemtrails like all big conspiracies have billions of dollars used to cover up their deeds. Google fake news. So, all the so called data Larry claims is false trumped up fake studies funded by the perps. It's very simple. Anyone can look at the sky and see there is a difference. They use barium and aluminum for conductivity with HAARP. Going to lie HAARP doesn't exist? READ ALL: watch?v=6XCxOfyQOVM&feature=re­lated

  • @Larryonoff333 people, take a look at this guys account. IT is a scarecrow blank, empty shell. IF this was a regular account you would see activity and there is none. Zero friends zero videos from a zero with a mouth full of lies. Look at his name. It is very telling: Let's disect it. Larry on and off the job, and 333 which means 666. Proof that scientists and military people are revealing the truth. These shills will not rspond to this watch?v=te_FOsKL_5Q&p=00AD0B75­­1D133728&playnext=1&index=30

  • @z - yup- cuz I don't spend hours posting videos, falling in w/the herd, the ignorant masses who only want like minded believers...I must be a shill. Perhaps I actually live life outside of youtube...and only spend a few minutes a day pointing out how stupid you are...doesn't take long as it is easy to show the truth. 333=666?? what.? U really R a complete nut-case aren't U? whats to respond in that movie? speculation&guesses...a girl puts a jar outside and says its from "chemtrails"...er..ok

  • @Larryonoff333, Oh really pagan Larry? reason your site is blank is you are on a lot of other YT sites puking your lies and disinfo! Allow me to share with people why you chose your name: THE SIX SACRED NUMBERS Three (3) is the first sacred number, the first perfect number (Westcott, p. 41). Three represents the Pagan Trinity." (Westcott, p. 37). It is represented geo-metrically in the triangle, and spiritually as the Third Eye Of Hinduism. logosresourcepages(dot)org/Occ­ult/nine.htm (dot)=.

  • @Larry333,, they also group threes in two's and threes, because they believe in the principle of "intensification", i.e., that greater power is achieved when a sacred number is grouped. In the case of three, greater intensification is achieved when it is shown as 33, or 333. 333 + 333 equals 666. Occultists have used 333 as the hidden symbol by which they present the more offensive number 666. Deny that Pagan Larry? See how they use numbers?

    godlikeproductions(dot)com/for­um1/message538708/pg1

  • @Larry333, the jars were scientific tested. Larry333=666: When the details of an event are so arranged as to contain certain sacred occult numbers or numeric combinations, this is literally an occult signature on the event. Mathematically, 666 can be created when three pairs of threes are added. Thus, (3+3) + (3+3) + (3+3) = 666. Now, eliminate the parentheses and the plus sign, and you have 33 space, 33 space, 33, representing the number 666.See pagan Larry people know who you are!

  • if you think this is water vapor left by planes you are completely ignorant. ask anyone that knows about cloud formation, and the amount of water vapor given off by a plane.

  • @DonnyHaze91 - its not just the water vapor from the plane...the engine exhaust acts as a catalyst for the ambient water (or ice) in the surrounding air. The contrail is merely a trigger for air that is saturated with respect to ice...even without a cloud in the sky the air can be "supersaturated"- with relative humidity > than 100%. Look up " ice supersaturation" or 'supersaturated persistent contrail".

  • @DonnyHaze91 This guy SR1419 is a shill working for the government. Look at his blank shell for a site. He and his coworkers are doing the best they can to lie about the truth on the chemtrail program and it isn't working. No matter what you say he has a shotgun answer for you. You can show patents the government uses, videos of planes flying in circles criss crossing the sky with checker boards and he lies saying 10 years ago you were mistaken when you knew clouds from planes didn't form. LMAO!

  • "chembows" really?? What do you think happens when light gets refracted by water?? Gee maybe a Bow...ever heard of sundogs or halos? Only water/ice refract light not "metal". wow...you are a sad indictment of the education system in this country.

    I am in an area where lots of people claim to film 'chemtrails" - but a quick check of the atmospheric conditions always shows conditions ripe for persistent contrails- not hard to verify- quick check of flt info verifies normal aircraft...try it.

  • @SR1419 according to you Einstein, everyday is always "conditions ripe for them" Even if you have 79 days without them and a day or two with a bunch then a week without Your lie doesn't work. See your foolish attempt at trying to wiggle your way out of every situation just shows the truth of who you are. You never responded to the reports on TV by pilots and the whistleblowers. Can you deny Evergreen air a CIA company is responsible for chemtrails? Just like I can't prove neither can you liar!

  • @zenman44 - what?? U don't even make sense. Try learning a little atmospheric science...take your meds and try logic and reason. do you deny the atmosphere changes from day to day? hour to hour? mile to mile ? altitude to altitude? Why is that so hard to understand. Have ever even looked at sounding data for 35k feet? Do you deny that contrails can persist and spread? Explain why your example isn't possible...communicate effectively- quit babbling.

  • @Z44 - It HAS been PROVEN, without a doubt, unequivocally, irrefutably, undeniably...that contrails can and often do persist, spread and cover the sky in a haze...this is simply fact. If U deny this you are either lying or ignorant.

    So...given the simple, yet irrefutable fact of contrail persistence...to see one one or more contrails persist and spread and to suggest they are actually something else requires evidence, facts and proof...none of which you have- simply hysteria on the internet

  • @SR1419 thank you lmao all these fucks are retarded

  • @RcUniverseGuy, who are you some grown up child playing with RC toys? What makes you and expert? While you are outside playing with your pringles cans look up and notice the chemtrails poisoning you. Do a little research not just on youtube. Go to carnicom(dot)com a scientist who has proven they are poisoning the masses. Don't take it from this guy. He is a shill and gets paid by the government to lie to the people. Chemtrails are real. This guy SR1419 works for the NWO a traitor to the US

  • @zenman44 You're a fucking idiot none of the videos on my channel are me..... there contrails your retarded when you prove it otherwise let me know

  • @RcUniverseGuy Listen you little shitter! learn how 2 write lol It's stupid brainwashed, vaccine damaged, bi-polar, attention deprived, fluoride drinking feminized, cowards like you that are going to realize way too late your country is being conquered by a foreign banksters. If you can ever have children, you'll have to tell them you were too cowardice to do anything about it. When you can stop playing with toys look up, take a deep breath of aluminum and barium so you can get Obama eugenics!,

  • SR1419, LIAR! Persistent contrails ARE chemtrails.We will NEVER agree so we can agree to disagree. You can't prove it and I can't prove my point but my point outnumbers your view 10 to 1. why would YOU spend SO MUCH TIME HERE especially when you're a nobody here. SR1419: Friends (0) Favorites (1) Subscribers (2) Channel views 140 Channel Comments (0) Your subscribers are papahockeybear a coworker. faithinscience the other shill closed. PROVES UNEQUIVOCALLY IRREFUTABLY, UNDENIABLY ARE AN AGENT!

  • @Z44-. WRONG."chemtrails" supposedly didn't exist before '98...contrails supposed can't persist&spread -yet the historical record and scientific facts R that contrail have ALWAYS persisted when conditions warranted..&it is simply a matter of physics that dictates the behavior of water vapor and burnt jet fuel in the atmosphere...you FAIL. Even IF I was an "agent" that doesn't change the reality that contrails can and often do persist/spread and thus calling one something else is illogical. FAIL

  • @SR1419 please give me a link to some scientific evidence that supoprts this "FACT" that water vapour from a plane can spread and cover the sky in a haze.

  • @D91 -easy. contrails that persist, spread and cover the sky have been observed and studied for over 60yrs. Look up the term "contrail cirrus" - here are but 2 of 100s of paper written by scientists around the world.

    "On the Transition of Contrails into Cirrus Clouds"

    B. Karcher et al

    Journal of the Atmospheric Science

    February 2000

    "Contrails to Cirrus- Morphology, Microphysics, and Radiative Properties"

    David Atlas

    Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology

    January 2006

  • @DonnyHaze91 this is bull shit. He used the same few copy and paste examples on me. His links are CIA shill, fake, really flimsy, obvious propaganda. They use ground observations to get the data. Look at it. IT is a total scarecrow site. All form the same source. They have a few planes and 1 helicopter. It's a total joke. Look what he said to me. "Even IF I was an "agent" that doesn't change the reality" Same words. He is totally scripted. How much do they pay these people to be US traitors?

  • @zenman44 - You are a fool. One of the papers was written by multiple scientists from 7 different countries...using multiple flights to observe and sample persistent contrails right in the atmosphere...wtf? You are either lying or just ignorant...which is it?

    The other paper he posted they identified the specific commercial planes from which the trail came...

    What is it w/you that when presented evidence that contradicts your beliefs U simply wave it away as "propaganda"? deny reality much?

  • @zenman44 - can you refute the science of those papers? Can you refute the math? Can you explain why you think water vapor wouldn't freeze into ice crystals at -30 below zero? ...and persist of the air is humid enough?

    Its basic physics.

    Did you even graduate high school?

    Either refute the science or STFU!

  • You say I can't prove "chemtrails" don't exist. Thats False logic. You can't prove god exists and yet people believe...ist faith on your part. I CAN prove that contrails often persist, spread and cover the sky in a haze....thus for YOU to claim that it is actually something else requires YOU to prove it...patents for cloud seeding do not cut it...bogus claims on the internet with no basis in fact, logic or science do not cut it...feel your to BELIEVE if it fills a void in your life...

  • Do you really think patents for cloud seeding equip "prove" chemtrails? if so, you are a bigger idiot than I thought. cloud seeding has been done for 50yrs...has NOTHING to do w/supposed "chemtrails"- no visible persitent trail, not secret- not "sprayed" burning flares shot into clouds often from the ground...you seem to have no ability to rationally review info but simply jump to conclusions based on fear and ignorance.

  • @SR1419, now here is a good video to show how chemtrails have changed the way the skies look from yesteryear. The earth is 20% darker and the bees are dying from chemtrials scientist believe. Many people have got sicker and all cancer is up. They have tested the fallout and know it has poison and Morgellans a new disease is from them too. Same stuff from them in peoples bodies. Read under this video for a good detailed explanation. watch?v=Psdg3OAw_a8&feature=pl­ayer_embedded

  • @zenman44 - sorry - no contrail has EVER been found to contain anything other than burnt fuel/water. taking a "sample" on the ground and calling it a "chemtrail" science is NOT legit science. Yet..you believe. Bees are not "dying from chemtrials"- quit making things up and believing everything you read. You can't prove that statement yet "believe" it. You have faith in "chemtrails" HAHAHAA!

  • @SR1419 How can you prove no chemtrial has ever been tested fool. Think it is coincidence that cloud seeding uses barium the same ingredient tested in a lab. Sorry Bozo that's science. You are really busted when saying chemtrails have been tested finding burnt fuel and water? HA! ROFLMAO! You are more of an dolt than I thought. You call yourself a scientist? LIAR! Caught in a contradiction again. You had better get your other shills to proof read before posting dumb ass! GO cry to mommy now!

  • @zenman44 - u FAIL. You are simply a babbling fool on the internet. I never called myself a scientist. Cloud seeding uses SILVER IODIDE. NO CONTRAIL SAMPLED IN THE ATMOSPHERE HAS EVER BEEN FOUND TO CONTAIN ANYTHING THAN WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED IN COMBUSTED JET FUEL. either provide the proof of your claims or STFU.

  • @SR1419, if you are right and your not where are all the videos to show how wrong the people filming these are? If you were right there should be just as many with your view but they don't exist. It's just like 911. Where's the videos showing the view of the governments conspiracy theory of 19 Arabs with box cutters out smarted the US military. Same thing and you can give many more different views but the old ones have more like JFK You believe Oswald did it alone right dude? 911 no inside yes?

  • @SR1419,Want to see the plane in the last two videos below that has been spotted in Spain and France spraying chemtrails? The new A330 MRTT delivered in 2010/11. This aircraft has capabilities for spraying aerosols in atmosphere and is. Now see, I never said it's all commercial planes. Most of what people are seeing spraying the chemtrails are military planes like this one. Trump that one troll with your "all planes r contrail & can't be spray" en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Airb­us_A330_MRTT

  • @SR1419, third 1 you can NEVER prove its contrail. They are turning on and then turning off like a Morse code. Now go ahead and try to make a fool out of yourself by saying it's ice crystals from flying through different weather variants at 30K feet. Since that has been your ONLY answer for every single post what are you going to say now LOL? I want a response for every single post here. Hint: Why not copy/paste for each post save time, they all same anyway. watch?v=CxXnhHfd8O8&feature=re­lated

  • @SR1419, NOW HERE IS ANOTHER ONE FROM FRANCE AND YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE THE PLANE AT THE END RUN DRY OF CHEMICALS!! NOT FROM WEATHER CHANGE. NOT ONE PERSON IS GOING TO BELIEVE YOU FOOL. DON'T YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE A DOLT? THIS ONE SHOWS WHAT HAS BEEN HARD TO SHOW UNTIL NOW!! WATCH HOW THE THICK CLOUD OF SMOKE COMES OUT THE BACK AND IT IS NOT ICE! watch?v=nHXvyCX57AE

  • @SR1419, I have a video from France where people are protesting and the sky is clear blue and the planes come in with big X's and the sky turns white with chemicals. You can even see the plane emit the rainbow effect. This proves the "chembows" we see are caused by these heavy metals in the spray. This all took place in a short time. Clearly these planes were ordered in to spray over these people. NOT FROM WEATHER CHANGE FOOL! Take a look at this! watch?v=RXGV816yaqs

  • @SR1419, 3601312 - August 24, 1971 - Methods of Increasing The Likelihood oF Precipatation By The Artificial Introduction Of Sea Water Vapor Into The Atmosphere Winward Of An Air Lift Region

    3608810 - September 28, 1971 - Methods of Treating Atmospheric Conditions

    3608820 - September 20, 1971 - Treatment of Atmospheric Conditions by Intermittent Dispensing of Materials Therein

    3613992 - October 19, 1971 - Weather Modification Method. I'm not even half there with chemtrail patents but it's ice ya

  • @SR1419, 3456880 - July 22, 1969 - Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere

    3518670 June 30, 1970 - Artificial Ion Cloud

    3534906 - October 20, 1970 - Control of Atmospheric Particles

    3545677 - December 8, 1970 - Method of Cloud Seeding

    3564253 - February 16, 1971 - System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas

    3587966 - June 28, 1971 - Freezing Nucleation Come on now you have to admit it now. I want to see you try and debunk it. Anything you say is going to look foolish.

  • @SR1419, 3338476 - August 29, 1967 - Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers - Referenced in 3990987

    3410489 - November 12, 1968 - Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump

    3429507 - February 25, 1969 - Rainmaker

    3432208 - November 7, 1967 - Fluidized Particle Dispenser

    3441214 - April 29, 1969 - Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds

    3445844 - May 20, 1969 - Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System

    I told you what do you think is cloud seeding fools?

  • @SR1419, March 31, 1964 - Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals

    3131131 - April 28, 1964 - Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions

    3174150 - March 16, 1965 - Self-Focusing Antenna System

    3234357 - February 8, 1966 - Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device

    3274035 - September 20, 1966 - Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke 3300721 - January 24, 1967 - Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases 3313487 - April 11, 1967 - Cloud Seeding Apparatus SEE THAT!!

  • @SR1419, 2801322 - July 30, 1957 - Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel - Referenced in 3990987

    2881335 - April 7, 1959 - Generation of Electrical Fields

    2908442 - October 13, 1959 - Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds

    2986360 - May 30, 1962 - Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device

    2963975 - December 13, 1960 - Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet

    3126155 - March 24, 1964 - Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator - Referenced in 3990987 3127107 - How many more are there?

  • @SR1419, 2591988 - April 8, 1952 - Production of TiO2 Pigments - Referenced in 3899144

    2614083 - October 14, 1952 - Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture

    2633455 - March 31, 1953 - Smoke Generator

    2688069 - August 31, 1954 - Steam Generator - Referenced in 3990987

    2721495 - October 25, 1955 - Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere

    2730402 - January 10, 1956 - Controllable Dispersal Device

    So I found a lot more and you can't deny it!

  • @SR1419,1957075 - May 1, 1934 - Airplane Spray Equipment2097581 - November 2, 1937 - Electric Stream Generator - Referenced in 39909872409201 - October 15, 1946 - Smoke Producing Mixture 2476171 - July 18, 1945 - Smoke Screen Generator 2480967 - September 6, 1949 - Aerial Discharge Device 2550324 - April 24, 1951 - Process For Controlling Weather2510867 - October 9, 1951 - Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation 2582678 - June 15, 1952 - Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes.

  • @SR1419, 1338343 - April 27, 1920 - Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists1619183 - March 1, 1927 - Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft1631753 - June 7, 1927 - Electric Heater - Referenced in 39909871665267 - April 10, 1928 - Process of Producing Artificial Fogs1892132 - December 27, 1932 - Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts 1928963 - October 3, 1933 - Electrical System And Method.

  • @SR1419, explain the following chemtrail patents? wait they never use ANY of right? BAHAHA loser trumped again! More to come from 1920 they have been inventing devices for spraying material out of planes. Got you on this. The people want to see your comeback. I can't wait to see the lies. Some may have not been used but odds are several are in use today. I have a video of a chemtrail cloud 800 feet long with no other clouds at all. Blue sky all day until 1 plane left it. weather change right ha!

  • @SR1419, how do you explain the black chemtrails people are seeing. I know black ice LOL right? HAHAHAHAHA BAahaha you sheep might believe but not the good people here. The ones who know shills like you can't ever change a person who see's this shit and knows they are not clouds and ice that lingers in the air. Your time is coming fast. You are going to need a new job. Why don't you move on to fight the people about HAARP. Do you even know what it is? Look it up. It is used with chemtrails.

  • @vgyu8gf68 why don't you try being civil? Look up into the sky once in a while......you might see what you're trying so hard to deny. Enjoy the toxins.

  • @SR1419, another thing I never mentioned was I'm not always seeing commercial jets. Most are military planes. It's what being reported by most. The news man called it chaff explaining it's aluminum particles, barium and polymers exactly what chemtrails have been tested as. Too hard to keep hide now. You will need to give it up and go fight HAARP which works w/ chemtrials for radar newsman also admitted. Even this guy admits if the government sprays it's legal watch?v=y85uypsn5aU&feature=re­lated

  • @zenman44 - how can you tell what kind of plane it is from the ground- 6-20 miles away...you can't. You are making things up. Bad plan. NO contrail has been found to contain ANY barium or whatever- every supposed "sample" was taken on the ground. Not a sample of a contrail and NOT proof. Again- FAIL.

  • @SR1419, There were many people that have seen the planes and collected the fall out and had it tested and not only did they contain mycobacterium and other nasty bacteria and diseases but barium, aluminum and other chemicals. All caustic to mammals. But let's just say what you believe that the stuff is just ice that never melts which is what you misinform people with. You can't dispute the whistleblowers working with these planes who tested the tanks contents and found barium and aluminum etc.

  • @SR1419, You know your argument is NOT convincing anyone you know that don't you? This whole month in my area there were none. I am waiting for them to start again and will take some videos. Now are you going to insult every smart person saying the weather for at least a whole month never had the right humidity at 30k to form contrails and one week in Vegas? If you say yes to that with a straight face go look in the mirror and say it. I have pics every month last year.EXPLAIN THAT PROBABILITY?

  • @zenman44 - how do YOU KNOW?? DId you measure the humidity at flight level?? NO...so, you are only guessing...guessing about something you really haven't a clue about- no a recipe for sucess. When you see a contrail why not study the atmospheric conditions and actually put some facts and science behind it- instead of just guessing in fear....IF you think every persistent trail is a 'chemtrail" you are an idiot and ignoring basic physics.

  • Z- I sincerely think you must be high to disregard to actual facts to such a degree. Yes- it IS the weather! If you took a look at them temps at 30k feet (and you could if you dared to look) I am sure you find conditions not conducive to contrail formation. Its basic physics...why do reject proven fact but so eager to believe BS on the internet? conditions on the ground have NO bearing on conditions at 30feet. They ARE fewer contrails in the summer its simple fact- don't belive it-I don't care

  • @SR1419 Do you think it is an impossibility that there could be chemicals sprayed from a plane? can you admit that? How old are you? regardless of the science, you expect me and anyone to be an expert like you and if you aren't well you and the millions are dead wrong morons right? Watch this and look at the pictures. Vegas was like this 6 days b4 clear I'm old enough to remember there was nothing close to this before and it has nothing to do with more planes. watch?v=y85uypsn5aU&feature=re­lated

  • @zenman44 - it is certainly possible- but since contrails are known to often persist, spread and cover the sky in a haze of cirrus cloud....just seeing one do that isn't evidence of something else...You have been told this isn't possible- which is a lie...and you believe it and refuse to accept you might be wrong.

    70,000 flts in this country daily...skies are bound to look like this - don't be an idiot- watch a days worth of air traffic- what if they all left a contrail:

    watch?v=ystkKXzt9Wk

  • @SR1419- Good luck with Z-man- but its probably worthless. I have found people like that don't really want to know the truth. R not willing to take the time to learn about the science of the atmosphere and simply prefer to let Utube vids do their thinking for them. The physics of the atmosphere dictates the behavior of every trail people see. This has been proven by science for over 40yrs and still people like Z44 want nothing to do with it. Its really an indictment of the education system. sad

  • @TheThorazineShuffle well if it isn't mr. thorazine govt. shill. Where you been on vacation or just too busy trolling for other dupes?Your coworker 1419 must have told you come back to your old stomping ground to have some fun with Z44. Look dude, you will NEVER convince most people what they are seeing and feeling with their own body. Your weak false science bull shit will not work these days.People are waking up & you are complicit with the criminals doing it. You sir are a traitor to the US

  • @Z44 - its very telling when PROVEN SCIENTIFIC FACT is considered false science...and that conclusion has been made by absolutely NO objective research into the nature of the atmosphere and the effects of jet exhaust therein. It is made only on the basis of fear and ignorance. Its like we are returning to the Dark Ages...the anonymous oracle on youtube told me so it must be true. People believed their eyes when they thought the earth was flat and sun went round the earth...Good luck with that

  • @TheThorazineShuffle I agree with one thing you say. The elite criminals responsible for the aerosol crimes against humanity DO want the world to convert back to scientific based feudalistic system of elite and slaves (poor) no middle class and if you can't see that you are either asleep from their media mind control or are complicit and are one of their minions in perpetuating the big lie. You guys have an answer to wiggle out of anything. You can't ALWAYS be right claiming weather changes!

  • @Z44 - Sorry-physics isn't a lie. The physics of contrail formation &persistence DOES describe vast majority of what people claim are "chemtrails" -persistence, spreading, gaps etc...ALL of it is known behavior of contrails in the atmosphere. To deny that is to deny reality. To continue to remain ignorant of basic atmospheric science is to hinder your path to truth& render your credibility Nil.

    The NWO may want to rule the World but seeing a persistent contrail is not evidence of their sucess

  • Cannot believe these people actually taught the new generation.

  • I have found proof that the optometrist cartel has sided with the government chemtrail assassins. Optometrists are prescribing anti chemtrail sunglasses that prevent us from seeing the truth. I have proof... It's true.

  • What is all of this talk about assassins? I assure you our governments are keeping our best interests in mind as they proceed with these secret chemical spraying campaigns. do not worry ourselves that the government is your enemy this is not the case, the government is your friend and it always shall be so. a great deal of time and money and effort has gone into this chemtrail spraying program. As we approach the great coming changes such as the New World Order, peace must be enforced.

  • @papahockeybear, educate-yourself(dot)org/cn/in­side%20chemtrail%20plane1500w.­jpg Here is another picture for you and your buddy SR1419 to try and explain. Notice the sprayer 5 on the wall and under that it says Hazmat as in "hazardous Material"? What could be inside those tanks? Aluminum, Barium and other dangerous bacterias and mycoplasm. The people who ae exposing this have given samples. Many other sources ave found the same thing.

  • @zenman44 - Sorry your links didn't work- can U try again? U R prolly refering to the Tanker enemy vid- where he calls simply flap fairings found "nozzles" and can't be bothered to understand the concept of a aerodynamic contrail- Whatever. Just because people are ignorant about basic science doesn't make them right. clouds start and stop- why not contrails?

  • @SR1419, OK, I know now you are not a casual person commenting on here. This is your job. You are a "dis-info agent" It is so obvious and you even use the same name lol. I have found your detailed and lengthy posts on a website called "contrail science" problem for you is not one person agrees with you. You are a lone gunman. Tough job you have. You aren't convincing anyone of your BS. You are obviously deeply versed in your propaganda but it's not working. You will never change anyone beliefs.

  • @zenman44 - yup- I am a paid "dis-info agent" simply because I disagree with your speculation and can back it up with facts. I proudly contribute to Contrail Science website...and clearly you cannot read for comprehension as there are many on that site who agree with me...try again. (if I was an "agent" would I use the same name?"

  • @SR1419 Right, the only ones who agree with you are your shill co-workers like papahockeybear. Using the same name will not cloak you with most of the sheep. Matters not. The point is no one would be so deeply involved in attempting to sway others without an agenda. This is not your hobby. I got lucky found you but it's probably not luck. I'm sure you are all over. It's called trolling. Commercial jets fly in straight lines. Explain this:watch?v=ZHfv5eqn68A&featu­re=related turned around ya lol?

  • @Z44 - lots of planes in the sky- over 25, 000 flights everyday- not all them are commercial aircraft- military, science, training...they all use internal combustion engines that emit water vapor that freezes into ice crystals. Since when does the flight path dictate the contents of the exhaust??? don't be so freakishly paranoid- lots of planes can fly in circles for various reasons..- see here for lots of examples:

    contrailscience. com/voodoo-contrails-over-los-­angeles/

  • @SR1419 your site is the biggest bit of government opted propaganda I've seen. You guys need some better looking sites w/ more shills. Can't you use Obama's stimulus money to help you build something better? What a joke dude! You always conveniently say the links don't work or you are taking them down. 6000 last week after wikiLeaks You have to take the (dot) out and replace it with (.) got it? Now here is the 2 part Las Vegas Tribune article & vid j.l.navarro.tripod(dot)com/jln­avarro/id23.html

  • @zenman44 - WTF? Its NOT my site! Its just a site where I post...just like this! It says a lot about your mind set that you view verifiable facts as "propaganda"....and then believe conspiracy sites as "fact" Contrail Science has nothing but facts on it - You dismiss it at your own peril. I dare you post there and take issue with ANYTHING posted on that site- just be prepared to engage in rational debate based on facts and evidence....are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

  • @SR1419 Didn't say it's your site but one you & your govt. operatives use. Problem is the people that have exposed it as a straw man site are coming in droves. It's you and a few of your coworkers spreading your lies. I have read a lot of posts and 95% of the people don't agree with you and give very convincing copy not like your shit. You are sinking fast and need to tell your bosses to get another site. That one is a joke. The people are beating you down dude. You are fighting a losing battle.

  • @Z44 -no- just ppl who understand physics-if contrails can't persist- why were they studying them in 1972? Do actual research- not utube-

    Measurements of the Growth of the Ice Budget in a Persisting Contrail

    Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences

    October 1972

    "It is often observed that contrails spread considerably...Under favorable conditions, a lateral spread of kilometers is observed...If sufficient air traffic exists, an entire overcast of contrail cirrus may develop and persist for hours"

  • @zenman44 - this is a fine example of twisted logic- 99.9% of all "chemtrails" are straight lines- and yet you see one anomaly - one "strange" flight path and the only explanation is that it is "spraying"...classic! Did you see any circular contrails over vegas that day? no.

  • @SR1419 no I didn't but you can't convince the people of Vegas who know that every weekend never fail they bomb the sky's with chemtrails. It is in their paper dude. I witnessed it myself. Monday -Fri.Clear sky not 1. Saturday morning 30 strips and X's all over the place. Now you can't say it's the traffic. Oh yes, you are going to say the weather on weekends in the desert is always favorable for your "persistent contrails" See, your theory won't work in every single instance. Busted again dude

  • @zenman44 - Very scientific analysis! I was in vegas a couple of months ago for a long weekend- not a single contrail all weekend long. Why is 2 flight paths crossing suspicious? flight paths cross all the time...if they happen to leave persistent contrails...?? an X. Try dialing back on the fear and paranoia- use rational judgmement and logical deduction. 25,000 commercial flights per day in the US- some are going to cross- watch a days worth of air traffic:

    watch?v=dPv8psZsvIU

  • @SR1419 Very weak attempt. First I am always looking at the sky. I was at the pool looking up all week. I said there were NONE until Saturday and BOMBS AWAY. I have been to Vegas 4 times always same. WEEKENDS ONLY! Now I don't care what you think OR what you say you will NEVER convince anyone to buy your basket of DEAD FLOWERS. Your lie will not account for it. Numbers don't work. You are expecting people reading this that the airport was empty all week and conditions for weekends only prime day