Morley Volume Pedal Fix Scott Grove Boss CS 3 Compressor

[tubeofyouification]

Hey man, thanks for the video. I had a look at the morley website and they also had some tips on how to adjust the volume swell. If anyone's interested, here is link to the pdf:

morleypedals. com/ ttvolumeadjust. pdf

[TroyGrilli]

Does the MiniMorley use volume pots?

[groovydjs]

@TroyGrilli No, they don't. Every Morley you will find these days uses the optical method. I talked to the guy who builds all of the Morley's and they have no interest in making a volume pedal that runs smoothly like I have them. He said that he wants them to run like a volume pedal on a guitar but without the tone loss. So, they HONESTLY want them to not do a thing until they are about halfway pressed down and then get really loud, just like on cheap guitars. Pretty sad huh. lol

[TroyGrilli]

@groovydjs Well that sounds like what I want... A volume pedal that does nothing to tone. Why is that sad? Sorry if Im missunderstanding lol I just want a legitimate volume pedal, no tone drop, no shenanigens.

[groovydjs]

@TroyGrilli Yeah, it has zero tone drop, it just needs fixed is all. What the SAD part is, is that when talking to Morley, they have no intention of making the volume travel smooth. They like it just the way it is. From zero to halfway, it does NOTHING, then from halfway to 6 it goes full blast and from 6 to wide open....well, it's wide open. So, it's either off or on until you do my mod to it. But, after that's done, you have a super smooth volume pedal with no tone loss at all.

[TroyGrilli]

@groovydjs Well what is your mod?

[groovydjs]

@TroyGrilli Surely you haven't watched the video. My mod allows the volume to go from of to full with the fluidity of the pedal's travel.  It doesn't do it out of the box. None of their models do. Their stock settings go from zero to 10 from 5 to 6 on the pedal.

[TroyGrilli]

@groovydjs I know WHAT it does but HOW does it do it?

[groovydjs]

@TroyGrilli It is done by how much light is allowed to pass through the shape that is cut out and how much light is collected by the cell on the other side. So, a shape has to be cut that gradually allows for more light to be let through gradually and at a constantly increased rate instead of no light...no light..no light, then in the middle of the pedal travel BOOM 100% light for the rest of the pedal travel. Zero though put into that part. The optical part is brilliant, just Dumb on the rest.

[RavenMadd9]

well Scott I've learned alot more from your vids ...then all the friggin myth mags I've read....lol,,,,,,,,who's that strange man on your shirt?........lol

[groovydjs]

@RavenMadd9 Thanks so much my friend! That is too cool! You want to know something funny? I've probably HONESTLY had like at least a dozen different women say (about that shirt) "Wow, what a cute bunny rabbit on your shirt". What the hell? A cute Bunny? Really? I just don't get it. lol

[RavenMadd9]

@groovydjs .I was being sarcastic ....lol......bunny?......lol..­....have a good sunday Scott

[groovydjs]

@RavenMadd9 Yeah, I know. I can't figure it out either. Women are just a goofy species. I thought the first lady that thought it was a bunny was just off her rocker, but then it just keeps happening. I just don't understand that one little bit. lol

[guitardog64]

Hey Scott, in your demonstration of the fix for the volume pedal, there were two holes cut from the factory. You altered one to make a gradual volume increase. What was the other hole with the goofy small slit for? And how would you know which one to choose?

[groovydjs]

@guitardog64 That 2nd, goofy small slit, it exactly what the original one looked like before I made the fix to it. The 2nd one is there for no reason at all. It's like the hole punch machine had a malfunction, but I have a lot of these pedals and they are all that way. So, it's useless and Morley is just moronic and wasing the electricity it takes to make the 2nd punch. You'll alter the first hole, the only one that's anywhere near the photo electric cell. It will be obvious which to use.

[guitardog64]

@groovydjs Thanks Scott. I appreciate it.

[UltimateGuitarQuest]

I just did the volume pedal mod...NICE. Way better. Thanks

[groovydjs]

@UltimateGuitarQuest Sweet my friend. Maybe one day Morley will actually invent a pedal that does what it's supposed to. The tonal quality is fixed using the Morley, but somebody was just a couple of brain cells short when it came to the taper of the actual shape on the thing allowing the light through. Oh, well......maybe some day. Enjoy!

Scott

[togstn666]

nice shoes

[groovydjs]

@togstn666 Yeah, the shoes have been rockin' with me for about 30 years. I get a new pair of these Vans every year. For some reason, the guitar don't sound the same if I wear my New Ballance shoes.

[ApotheosiZ]

@groovydjs Hey Scott, I have a few questions; 1) what's your thoughts on the Goodrich volume pedals and the Fender volume/tone pedals? 2) have you ever heard of the omnifex compressor how you think it compares to your boss and what were your settings.

[groovydjs]

@ApotheosiZ The Goodrich and the Fender were fun in their day. They both KILL your tone, but they didn't know any better back then and most folks still don't know any better and are still using pots (as did the Goodrich and Fender). The Omnifex compressor will compress like all other compressors, but sustain is not gained by using it, so like all others, it's usless for my applications. Other folks will like it and everything else just fine. They just don't work for my situation at all.

[ciromago]

hahahah be careful, you can kill someone with that, a crash, you know what i mean hahahah

[groovydjs]

@ciromago I hear you my friend. I put that on here because I actually passed a guy once on the highway that actually had probably a 17" monitor in his SUV and had his porn playing and I just laughed until I cried. I could only envision little kids passing by and the parents having to explain to them what they were looking at. lol

[ciromago]

great tv man.

[groovydjs]

@ciromago Thanks man. I love my Vizio. I take it with me everywhere I go. I put it in the back seat of the SUV and throw porn on it at night so that all the kids in the other cars going down the highway have something NEW to watch other than BARNEY. lol

[generatemusic]

Hey Scott,

Great insight here. I just bought your complete video set.

Are all Boss CS 3 comps created equal?

Because I just got a 2nd hand one and set the way you say here... and it's really quiet.

I wonder if it's defective, or if it's a good thing???

[groovydjs]

@generatemusic There are 3 versions of the Boss CS-3 The Japanese one (the good one), the one made later and still from Taiwan....just kind of ordinary and then the Keeley modded version which is dead quiet. So, if you bought second hand like you said.....you may very well have lucked out. I'd love to see it. I run the volume at 1 o'clock, same with the tone, the attack off and the sustain wide open. Try yours that way and see if it remains quiet for you. Come back and let me know.

Scott

[groovydjs]

@generatemusic Hi there my friend and thank you for the purchase. All CS-3's are NOT created equal. So many have been Modded to make the Hiss quieter. It's a very common operation available via Ebay purchases. There are about 3 mods that they have done to the used ones. Plus, depending on if it was made in Japan or Taiwan will make a difference too. The Japanese one's are very noticably the best of the best. Same as always, the Japanese really put out some great stuff.

[4evergreendayfan]

you have the same shoes and same pedal as me

love this review

[groovydjs]

@4evergreendayfan Thanks my friend. Yeah, I can't give up on my Vans.  lol

[bmiranda2645]

Funny about how the Morley pedal is cool because it doesn't weaken the guitar signal like a volume pot, but then so many design flaws.

I'm graduating next month with a degree in Mechanical/Manufacturing engineering. So with what I learned, I am always surprised how some manufacturers produce products on a wide scale in spite of simple yet terrible flaws, like the "on/off" volume pedal or the sunlight that bleeds through the LED into the optical sensor.

It was cool how you modified the slots.

[groovydjs]

@bmiranda2645 Thank you my friend. Finally someone who "Gets it". LOL I'm proud of you for graduating with the degree, that is awesome. Congrats. Yeah, I don't think any designers actually work in the trenches outside the factory. It would be nice to have some seasoned veterans of the club and road circuits doing some test drives and mod requests before they release flawed gear all the time.

[bmiranda2645]

Thank you sir. I am assuming the flaws on this pedal has much to do with the designers' lack of experience in the trenches during the "rock war." I learned about compliance, so engineers may have designed the Morley Volume pedal according to electrical/radio interference standards, but there's poor logic in the pedal's practicality.

I'm different than many engineering students in that I have a huge interest in music, so that would help a bunch when designing stuff that's not "guitarded" haha.

[groovydjs]

@bmiranda2645 True, anti-guitarded gear is a must. I kept getting so many requests as to how to modify this pedal to work the right way, that I got tired of writing a novel explainging it. So....now a link to the video. Funny that I never thought to simply save the explaination as a word pad document or something. lol