Thanks. BTW, I stopped reading The Reader's Digest years ago, simply because it portrayed the Russians as sub-human in WW2. In other words they tried to paint a slanted lopsided picture. They refused to address the German atrocities in Russia and through out Europe in WW2.
@gotch09 we were expecting Hollywood to glorify the role of the Americans in the war but in recent years we *know* the truth has been twisted - e.g. U-571 which shows Americans getting an Enigma machine which was actually an heroic deed of the British Navy, I am reminded of Sting's "The Russians love their children too" - remind me which world politician said Russians weren't human! (clue: he had a moustache)
@evilrobottolhurst This is why your one of my favorite parody makers. Willing to try something different.Just want to throw something out there:"The Bunker Beatles"-Shitler, Fegelein, Jodl and Burgdorf. Just a idea, you don't have to use it.
@gotch09 TBH I have friends who are uneasy about mocking the bunker characters on the basis that even selecting them as targets is a sort of glorification, and that will be my next parody. As for the Beatles, John Lennon reportedly gave a Hitler salute in Australia in the 1960s though it didn't mean he was a Nazi if he did it. Here's the one where Hitler is informed his cardboard cut-out will not be on the cover of Sgt Pepper: v=Z_ISNH4-XI0
@evilrobottolhurst I understand where you're coming from. One town I lived in, in the 80s there were Germans who lived through Hitlers regime in Germany. When you got one to talk about it, well, to say he wasn't a nice man is a understatement.So I guess I can understand why some people would be a little "unnerved" by it. We have to look at things in more than some ways,sometimes, I guess. As far as John is concerned, that's the 1st time Ive heard it. Don't doubt it though.
@gotch09 The British endured German bombing but almost every country in Continental Europe was brutally invaded by the Germans, then invaded (more or less brutally) by the liberators. Occupied France from 1940 to 1944 was evidently a terrible place to be. The French generally are very jumpy about Nazism as French people were killed, deported and raped. Here is the John incident (to wartime and post-war Brits, Hitler was a comic character) v=QJGJ6EDDaNY
@evilrobottolhurst I understand what you're saying. WW2 Europe was a brutal place to be.I think that was my point, I guess that generation didn't want to always think about the brutality too much. I felt so sorry for Russia and France, they seem to just caught hell, didn't they? Thanks for sending me the Lennon incident.
@gotch09 Yes, the Russians paid the Germans back for the sadistic brutality of the invasion although recent war films like "The Fortress" (set in Brest (Poland 1921(?)-1939) airbrush out the 1939 Soviet invasion of eastern Poland (which remains outside Poland). The Eastern Germans (Prussians, Silesians, Sudeten Germans etc.) felt the wrath of the Soviet forces for the war their leader started.
@evilrobottolhurst apparently you know far more ww2 history than I do. so I'll start reading about the points you brought up. but yes, i do understand that Russia made the German people pay in spades for the crimes of Mr. Shitler.Back in that town I lived in, in the 80s, i had a few Germans try to tell me about their escape from East Germany. Some of them were just hair raising.
@gotch09 Here is the Brest fortress film v=Sbj9SF6Dl5c - a Russian war film rather like a Hollywood one. You can see virulent anti-German and anti-Polish comments to it, as you can to the German anti-war film "Stalingrad" starring Thomas "Fegelein" Kretschmann. v=ilB2ukvXXfc.
@MsChevChelios Sorry, are you saying the subtitles say something different from the Hindi? It's very clear that "arms and fuels" is Hindi for "Noida" in Dear Friend Hitler parody world. I asked Fegelein to translate and he confirmed this was the exact conversation in the bunker when Hitler was informed about the Indian Grand Prix.
@MsChevChelios Oh I see. It's true to say that this Indian film appears to be a cheap rip-off of the marvellous "Downfall" with Bruno Ganz who gives a fantastic performance as a little, aggressive man whose own actions have wrecked both himself, his country, and led to much death and destruction. It's important for us to remember through the parodies what a stupid man he was as well as deadly evil. "Dear Friend Hitler" is not the classic portrayal.
No of course. your totally right. Of course we all should hate Hitler but hes a historical person wich shouldnt get ridicule. And i think the Bruno Ganz interpretation is much better.
@MsChevChelios Yes, you're right - this Bollywood version borrows wholesale from the meticulously-researched and painstakingly-made "Downfall" and almost looks like it is an amateur re-enactment in the big room at the back of the restaurant in comparison to that great film. "Downfall"'s director Oliver Hirschbiegel welcomes Downfall parodies as ensuring that we should have no respect for these evil men. Bruno Ganz put his heart and soul into the role - v=PCWKCGZW3yc
Thanks. BTW, I stopped reading The Reader's Digest years ago, simply because it portrayed the Russians as sub-human in WW2. In other words they tried to paint a slanted lopsided picture. They refused to address the German atrocities in Russia and through out Europe in WW2.
gotch09 1 month ago
@gotch09 we were expecting Hollywood to glorify the role of the Americans in the war but in recent years we *know* the truth has been twisted - e.g. U-571 which shows Americans getting an Enigma machine which was actually an heroic deed of the British Navy, I am reminded of Sting's "The Russians love their children too" - remind me which world politician said Russians weren't human! (clue: he had a moustache)
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
Well, if Mr Shitler doesn't deserve our mockery and ridicule who the hell does? That's my theory and I'm a stickin' to it.
gotch09 1 month ago
@gotch09 If I could work Sony Vegas that would be my next parody right there!
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
@evilrobottolhurst This is why your one of my favorite parody makers. Willing to try something different.Just want to throw something out there:"The Bunker Beatles"-Shitler, Fegelein, Jodl and Burgdorf. Just a idea, you don't have to use it.
gotch09 1 month ago
@gotch09 TBH I have friends who are uneasy about mocking the bunker characters on the basis that even selecting them as targets is a sort of glorification, and that will be my next parody. As for the Beatles, John Lennon reportedly gave a Hitler salute in Australia in the 1960s though it didn't mean he was a Nazi if he did it. Here's the one where Hitler is informed his cardboard cut-out will not be on the cover of Sgt Pepper: v=Z_ISNH4-XI0
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
@gotch09 - I mean my next parody will discuss the topic, not parody the viewpoint or the friends.
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
@evilrobottolhurst I understand where you're coming from. One town I lived in, in the 80s there were Germans who lived through Hitlers regime in Germany. When you got one to talk about it, well, to say he wasn't a nice man is a understatement.So I guess I can understand why some people would be a little "unnerved" by it. We have to look at things in more than some ways,sometimes, I guess. As far as John is concerned, that's the 1st time Ive heard it. Don't doubt it though.
gotch09 1 month ago
@gotch09 The British endured German bombing but almost every country in Continental Europe was brutally invaded by the Germans, then invaded (more or less brutally) by the liberators. Occupied France from 1940 to 1944 was evidently a terrible place to be. The French generally are very jumpy about Nazism as French people were killed, deported and raped. Here is the John incident (to wartime and post-war Brits, Hitler was a comic character) v=QJGJ6EDDaNY
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
@evilrobottolhurst I understand what you're saying. WW2 Europe was a brutal place to be.I think that was my point, I guess that generation didn't want to always think about the brutality too much. I felt so sorry for Russia and France, they seem to just caught hell, didn't they? Thanks for sending me the Lennon incident.
gotch09 1 month ago
@gotch09 Yes, the Russians paid the Germans back for the sadistic brutality of the invasion although recent war films like "The Fortress" (set in Brest (Poland 1921(?)-1939) airbrush out the 1939 Soviet invasion of eastern Poland (which remains outside Poland). The Eastern Germans (Prussians, Silesians, Sudeten Germans etc.) felt the wrath of the Soviet forces for the war their leader started.
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
@evilrobottolhurst apparently you know far more ww2 history than I do. so I'll start reading about the points you brought up. but yes, i do understand that Russia made the German people pay in spades for the crimes of Mr. Shitler.Back in that town I lived in, in the 80s, i had a few Germans try to tell me about their escape from East Germany. Some of them were just hair raising.
gotch09 1 month ago
@gotch09 Here is the Brest fortress film v=Sbj9SF6Dl5c - a Russian war film rather like a Hollywood one. You can see virulent anti-German and anti-Polish comments to it, as you can to the German anti-war film "Stalingrad" starring Thomas "Fegelein" Kretschmann. v=ilB2ukvXXfc.
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
@gotch09 - the Allied invasion of France was less brutal. The Red Army was a pitiless foe and reportedly more brutal (e.g. rapes).
evilrobottolhurst 1 month ago
Hahaha. I liked it. "might as well call me an austrian."
Flayertim 2 months ago
wrong interpretation!
MsChevChelios 3 months ago
@MsChevChelios Sorry, are you saying the subtitles say something different from the Hindi? It's very clear that "arms and fuels" is Hindi for "Noida" in Dear Friend Hitler parody world. I asked Fegelein to translate and he confirmed this was the exact conversation in the bunker when Hitler was informed about the Indian Grand Prix.
evilrobottolhurst 3 months ago
@evilrobottolhurst
No. what i mean is that Hitler is shown as a little aggresiv idiot. Hes really ridiculous in this video and i thinnk thats not right.
MsChevChelios 3 months ago
@MsChevChelios Oh I see. It's true to say that this Indian film appears to be a cheap rip-off of the marvellous "Downfall" with Bruno Ganz who gives a fantastic performance as a little, aggressive man whose own actions have wrecked both himself, his country, and led to much death and destruction. It's important for us to remember through the parodies what a stupid man he was as well as deadly evil. "Dear Friend Hitler" is not the classic portrayal.
evilrobottolhurst 3 months ago
@evilrobottolhurst
No of course. your totally right. Of course we all should hate Hitler but hes a historical person wich shouldnt get ridicule. And i think the Bruno Ganz interpretation is much better.
MsChevChelios 2 months ago
@MsChevChelios Yes, you're right - this Bollywood version borrows wholesale from the meticulously-researched and painstakingly-made "Downfall" and almost looks like it is an amateur re-enactment in the big room at the back of the restaurant in comparison to that great film. "Downfall"'s director Oliver Hirschbiegel welcomes Downfall parodies as ensuring that we should have no respect for these evil men. Bruno Ganz put his heart and soul into the role - v=PCWKCGZW3yc
evilrobottolhurst 2 months ago
Formula 1?
blakegriplingph 4 months ago
@blakegriplingph No idea!
evilrobottolhurst 4 months ago