Seems like a fake to me. Tazers leave the person on the ground, in pain, long after the juice is cut off. Unless he was wearing leather underwear, something's not right with that Tazer.
Seems like a fake to me. Tazers leave the person on the ground, in pain, long after the juice is cut off. Unless he was wearing leather underwear, something's not right with that Tazer.
Wonder how many in that crowd now know this guy is a fake. Probably not too many. Sad, when the Christian Church doens't hold our own accountable like we're supposed to. Not to mention Caner STILL won't admit it.
If you would watch the entire message, it would be crystal clear. But people don't like to put this demonstration into context before judging....much like Scripture.
Tazering does not harm you. It causes a brief amount of pain with rarely any side effects. Paul accepted that he would be caused pain and harm by his actions of spreading the gospel and welcomed it if it meant his message would be received.
why would you want to put yourself through any pain? tazing yourself does not spread the gospel in anyway. He did it to gain publicity, then i regret to inform you that people came to see him get tazed and not for the gospel
You clearly don't know the facts or basis of the message. It was not announced beforehand that this would happen. It was a surprise to those who came to service that evening. The tazing does not spread the gospel no, but it is a perfect illustration of the point of the message. Like I said, Paul knew his actions would bring lasting pain and harm. The primary and focus is the message, not the pain.
If you are delievering your message and it just so happens that you bump into trials and tribulations which could potentially harm you, that is okay. But deliberately standing up and asking to be tazed. Looks more like jackass or dirty sanchez to me. Now i know where they learn it from.
Actually, the Bible says to expect trials and tribulation in spreading the Bible's message. The tazing was an illustration to the message, not simply a jackass demonstration. Jesus didn't tell parables just to shoot the breeze.
if you read what i wrote you would see that it's okay if you encounter trials and tribulations when delievering your message. But getting tazed is not a trial or tribulation. It is simple dumbness. It just doesn't make sense to stand up and taze yourself in the name of Jesus. Its dumb. If this happened in a mosque you would probably say they are training for a holy war.
The short and simple is that its a sermon illustration. If you just don't like the illustration, that's one thing. Some probably didn't like Jesus' stories. But if you have too much hate or biasness against the man to understand that, there's nothing I can say to help you to.
getting tazed isn't preaching, again...its a means to and end. the point of getting tazed wasn't just to get tazed. how is it so hard to understand a simply sermon illustration? thick headed haters, the worst.
If you wante people to understand this in context...why not have the entire sermon or at least have an expanation of the sermon? Rather you have this taze? Its nonsense.
Unfortunately, you fail to understand the context making your comment quite ignorant. If you were in attendance that evening, the message he preached would be engraved forever.
i dnt care wat he said b4 or afta the self harming ritual. im talkin bout this actual tazing. jst cos he gave a good speech it doesnt mean u celebrate with the 'good old tazing'
@mokhan247. What is the harm? Is working out and running and sports etc etc not harming the body in order to make it stronger and more fit? Your points are aimed towards the ignorant and simple minded who might accept ur hatred of caner w/o honest examination
@dsmitty1st Egun Caner has lied constantly about his alleged muslim upbringing.....Gods word says .............All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire...Revelation 21:8
yes. when you refuse to accept scripture as it is then you have to make appeal to other things as well because you lack the confidence of the power of God and scripture to convict and get the message through so that the work of saving and sanctifying can be done. yes, low view of God and the Bible. typical of those who obstinately refuse to worship the God of the bible and believe His doctrine as revealed in the Word. :)
of course it doesn't say to go play in traffic, but what im saying is that is it so "sinful" for him to do this. If you were there to hear the sermon and witness everything you might feel different.
Now granted i know that caner is a bit for the theatrical but how is that so "sinful"? I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than it really is. thats all im sayin.
Because when God actually shared some of his thoughts, (ie the Bible) he didn't expect for us to say about those, "I am all for discussing theology because I believe it is important, BUT..." "I'm not all for discussing theology" is basically what you could have said without all the other jargon after your proverbial "BUT". It's the classic bait and switch. It doesn't work here.
"I'm sure he lost more in his following Jesus than you and I combined."
I'm not so sure about that.
I must admit that I'm somewhat biased because I've kept up with all his banter and rhetoric over the years between him Ascol and James White. I saw a lot of what he "truly gave up" which wasn't much of his pride and ego if it's true that what comes out of a man's mouth is what is in his heart as our Lord said.
I sincerely hope you will remit your assertion that the miracles of Jesus should even be remotely considered to be at the same level as Ergun Caner volunteering to be tasered in front of a live audience of "peers".
Everything has to do with theology. One's theology dictates how they preach. Caner is clearly from the "do anything to keep them entertained" category given this and other 'sermons' he's given. One would expect the president of a seminary to understand the life and death nature of the truth of God so as to not turn it into a game.
You didn't hear the sermon or how this "stunt" is related to it. If you have some kind of Biblical backing for denouncing its use, please share. Or if you have a more detailed response as to how it is sad sermon material please also share. Should be interesting since you have not heard the sermon, however. Go hate somewhere else.
Caner's "sermons" are well known. I see no Biblical support, whatsoever, for this kind of entertainment. Perhaps you'd rather be entertained than here the Gospel? In today's climate of Joel Osteens and the like, Caner would consider the seriousness of Christ crucified as something not to turn into a side show.
Since when did Ergun Caner have gray hairs in his beard?
wooowmeato 5 months ago
Taze this fat ass LIAR! I have never seen a bigger SHIT talker then caner in my life.
hudfadz 6 months ago
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Seems like a fake to me. Tazers leave the person on the ground, in pain, long after the juice is cut off. Unless he was wearing leather underwear, something's not right with that Tazer.
mksclr 9 months ago
Seems like a fake to me. Tazers leave the person on the ground, in pain, long after the juice is cut off. Unless he was wearing leather underwear, something's not right with that Tazer.
mksclr 9 months ago
and this guy is suposed to be an ex-MAZLIM...my ass...
khalilrabee 1 year ago
DON'T TAZE HIM BRO
lonewolf0017 1 year ago
Wonder how many in that crowd now know this guy is a fake. Probably not too many. Sad, when the Christian Church doens't hold our own accountable like we're supposed to. Not to mention Caner STILL won't admit it.
voted4bush 1 year ago
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Exposingantiahmadiya 1 year ago
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Rachella38 1 year ago
@Rachella38
hahahahahaha
ALLaHUakER 11 months ago
could be his preparation into the world wrestling federation once liberty ditch this liar.
kelubi99 1 year ago
that is NOT Ergun Caner.
puzzydee 1 year ago
@puzzydee are you retarded? One, I was there when he did this. Two, its obviously him...
dsmitty1st 1 year ago
@dsmitty1st oh, sorry bro, my mistake. Thanks for calling me a retard though...very encouraging.
puzzydee 1 year ago
haha he is fake ex-muslim
ThePathanO 1 year ago
@ThePathanO incorrect.
dsmitty1st 1 year ago
he shoulda been tazed on his bald head or ass.tht wud be super funny xD
devilsown18 2 years ago
"Let all things be done decently and in order." 1 Corinthians 14:40.
jtw2e 2 years ago
@jtw2e it was quite orderly. And what was co nsidered decent when Paul wrote that? And how does that relate to our culture today?
dsmitty1st 1 year ago
nothing like a good ole tazing to make the point. yes I mean it sarcastically
strech7951 2 years ago
If you would watch the entire message, it would be crystal clear. But people don't like to put this demonstration into context before judging....much like Scripture.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
self harm is not allowed in christianity
mokhan247 2 years ago
Tazering does not harm you. It causes a brief amount of pain with rarely any side effects. Paul accepted that he would be caused pain and harm by his actions of spreading the gospel and welcomed it if it meant his message would be received.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
why would you want to put yourself through any pain? tazing yourself does not spread the gospel in anyway. He did it to gain publicity, then i regret to inform you that people came to see him get tazed and not for the gospel
mokhan247 2 years ago
You clearly don't know the facts or basis of the message. It was not announced beforehand that this would happen. It was a surprise to those who came to service that evening. The tazing does not spread the gospel no, but it is a perfect illustration of the point of the message. Like I said, Paul knew his actions would bring lasting pain and harm. The primary and focus is the message, not the pain.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
If you are delievering your message and it just so happens that you bump into trials and tribulations which could potentially harm you, that is okay. But deliberately standing up and asking to be tazed. Looks more like jackass or dirty sanchez to me. Now i know where they learn it from.
mokhan247 2 years ago 2
Actually, the Bible says to expect trials and tribulation in spreading the Bible's message. The tazing was an illustration to the message, not simply a jackass demonstration. Jesus didn't tell parables just to shoot the breeze.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
if you read what i wrote you would see that it's okay if you encounter trials and tribulations when delievering your message. But getting tazed is not a trial or tribulation. It is simple dumbness. It just doesn't make sense to stand up and taze yourself in the name of Jesus. Its dumb. If this happened in a mosque you would probably say they are training for a holy war.
mokhan247 2 years ago 3
The short and simple is that its a sermon illustration. If you just don't like the illustration, that's one thing. Some probably didn't like Jesus' stories. But if you have too much hate or biasness against the man to understand that, there's nothing I can say to help you to.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
right okay. that makes perfect sense. lets all go get tazed and say we are preaching. its okay though. because paul said we could.
mokhan247 2 years ago 4
getting tazed isn't preaching, again...its a means to and end. the point of getting tazed wasn't just to get tazed. how is it so hard to understand a simply sermon illustration? thick headed haters, the worst.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
so what did you learn from seeing ergun getting tazed?
mokhan247 2 years ago 13
haha. After all these posts from haters, someone finally asks about the context. Love it.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
great context!
mokhan247 2 years ago
@mokhan247 I learned nothing but as I said before, his tongue should be tazed for being a damn boldface liar!
trinidadparaminman 8 months ago
If you wante people to understand this in context...why not have the entire sermon or at least have an expanation of the sermon? Rather you have this taze? Its nonsense.
MariposahNYC 2 years ago
@MariposahNYC. I didn't say I posted this to prove his sermon point or even say what it was. Ur post is a strawman and quite nonsensical
dsmitty1st 1 year ago
stop tryna justify stupidity using the bible man
davidwea 2 years ago
Yea, y try to use the Bible to justify someone preaching the Bible. Craziness.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
getin tazed is not preachin u dummy, gettin tazed is stupidity.
davidwea 2 years ago 4
Unfortunately, you fail to understand the context making your comment quite ignorant. If you were in attendance that evening, the message he preached would be engraved forever.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
i dnt care wat he said b4 or afta the self harming ritual. im talkin bout this actual tazing. jst cos he gave a good speech it doesnt mean u celebrate with the 'good old tazing'
davidwea 2 years ago 5
so you choose to be ignorant of the context of the tazing. Think I'll stop entertaining your ignorance.
dsmitty1st 2 years ago
@mokhan247. What is the harm? Is working out and running and sports etc etc not harming the body in order to make it stronger and more fit? Your points are aimed towards the ignorant and simple minded who might accept ur hatred of caner w/o honest examination
dsmitty1st 1 year ago
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@dsmitty1st Egun Caner has lied constantly about his alleged muslim upbringing.....Gods word says .............All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire...Revelation 21:8
Trust Jesus Christ ...Not Ergun Caner (The liar)
daleyboy77 8 months ago
yes. when you refuse to accept scripture as it is then you have to make appeal to other things as well because you lack the confidence of the power of God and scripture to convict and get the message through so that the work of saving and sanctifying can be done. yes, low view of God and the Bible. typical of those who obstinately refuse to worship the God of the bible and believe His doctrine as revealed in the Word. :)
parakeethands 2 years ago
bottom line is, hes an amazing speaker and likes to use interesting illustrations to get his point across and make an impact while doing so.
ollipeepz 2 years ago
Why is it so stupid?! Can Christians not use crazy or fun illustrations? what is it harming? Does it say to not taze yourself in the Bible?
ktloveland 3 years ago
does it not say to go play in traffic in the bible,yet you wouldnt expect him to do that,right.
lilmindfreak1619 3 years ago
of course it doesn't say to go play in traffic, but what im saying is that is it so "sinful" for him to do this. If you were there to hear the sermon and witness everything you might feel different.
Now granted i know that caner is a bit for the theatrical but how is that so "sinful"? I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than it really is. thats all im sayin.
ktloveland 3 years ago
haha. "low view of GOd" Must say that's what I always hear in response as well, and I'm not Arminian.
dsmitty1st 3 years ago
You call it arrogance...
Holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to refute the opposition.
(Tit 1:9)
...
LaneCh 4 years ago
Take heed unto yourself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this you shall both save yourself, and them that hear you.
(1Ti 4:16)
Paul calls it holding to sound doctrine. Again, I'll stick with an Apostle of God instead of your pejorative opinion.
LaneCh 4 years ago
Because when God actually shared some of his thoughts, (ie the Bible) he didn't expect for us to say about those, "I am all for discussing theology because I believe it is important, BUT..." "I'm not all for discussing theology" is basically what you could have said without all the other jargon after your proverbial "BUT". It's the classic bait and switch. It doesn't work here.
LaneCh 4 years ago
"I'm sure he lost more in his following Jesus than you and I combined."
I'm not so sure about that.
I must admit that I'm somewhat biased because I've kept up with all his banter and rhetoric over the years between him Ascol and James White. I saw a lot of what he "truly gave up" which wasn't much of his pride and ego if it's true that what comes out of a man's mouth is what is in his heart as our Lord said.
LaneCh 4 years ago
I sincerely hope you will remit your assertion that the miracles of Jesus should even be remotely considered to be at the same level as Ergun Caner volunteering to be tasered in front of a live audience of "peers".
LaneCh 4 years ago
Everything has to do with theology. One's theology dictates how they preach. Caner is clearly from the "do anything to keep them entertained" category given this and other 'sermons' he's given. One would expect the president of a seminary to understand the life and death nature of the truth of God so as to not turn it into a game.
klockheed 4 years ago
Arminian "evangelism" at its finest.
LaneCh 4 years ago
...It's amazing what you find when you type "police tazer university student" in the searchbox. Priceless!!
AutumnTheCuzzy 4 years ago
No... sad that this passes for sermon material.
klockheed 4 years ago
Yep, read "Pulpit Crimes" by James White.
parakeethands 2 years ago
This man is the president of a seminary? Sad.
klockheed 4 years ago
What, like YOU'D have the balls to do something like this? LOLs...
AutumnTheCuzzy 4 years ago
You didn't hear the sermon or how this "stunt" is related to it. If you have some kind of Biblical backing for denouncing its use, please share. Or if you have a more detailed response as to how it is sad sermon material please also share. Should be interesting since you have not heard the sermon, however. Go hate somewhere else.
dsmitty1st 4 years ago
Caner's "sermons" are well known. I see no Biblical support, whatsoever, for this kind of entertainment. Perhaps you'd rather be entertained than here the Gospel? In today's climate of Joel Osteens and the like, Caner would consider the seriousness of Christ crucified as something not to turn into a side show.
klockheed 4 years ago
Yes, an arminian seminary. That is what is really sad.....arminianism.
parakeethands 2 years ago