The point of the documentary is that this war was encouraged by the western powers, just like other wars after it. I think that the yugoslavia war was an experiment, and then used in irak, libya, kosovo etc: helping with guns and money one side, making the villain of the other and then using their guns to inforce "peace".
ohh this video is also extremely incorrect about the attitudes of the majority of bosnians and croats during WWII and afterwards. verry verry few supported the nazis or ustase! tito himself was a full croat! and today most croats and bosnians supported tito and yugoslavia! no one wanted it to end except for nationalists in all countries who numbered only in the few until nationalists successfully brainwashed their people on all sides!
O pa da!!Sad je to propaganda kad je OBRNUTO!!!A ono nije propaganda koja je 20 g sataniz. Srbe i čuli i slušali ste ono koje je Vašim ušima odgavaralo!!!!hallooo!!!Lepo vam opisuje SVE kako je počelo u tom dokument!!!Iste slike je i HTV prikazivala kao npr. onu U Splitu koji je onaj(posle budući komand hrv.vojske u Bosni....)tip koji je davio vojnika u transporteru samo su bile NARAVNO druge reči!!Hrvati danas propagarišu kako su oni SAD jadni..Neka pogledaju svoju Bednu istoriju!!!
oh,and at 8:35 it's excessively,yes,Serbs were loosing jobs,but after the war they got compensation,they got everything what they would earn in that time+interest(that's really fair,isn't it'?),homes of Serbs weren't destroyed in this towns(only 1 granate in Borovo Selo),othervise I would know that...
@bijou201 Well, when you take into consideration the amount of Krajina Serbs who were killed and displaced from Croatia, I think it's safe to say that everyone (Croats and Bosnians included) suffered.
@giulianoisthebestyep Would you please take into consideration the amount of Croats(children also) who were killed/massacred in Vukovar, Borovo Selo, Škabrnja, Ovčara, Petrinja, Dalj, Baćina etc. and amount of Bosnians in Srebrenica (genocide), Sarajevo etc. Only in Bosnia 2 mil people were refugees. It's important to know who attacked who, who was aggressor and the wars weren't in Serbia. Croatia and Bosnia were devastated, economy and infrastructure destroyed. You can't say EQUALLY.
5:40 in ex Yugoslavia nationalism was also when you were singing "ustani Bane, Hrvatska te zove"(that song is patriotic,not nationalistic),Tuđman wasn't xenophobic,he just said few silliness,so what?There is also no evidence that he was concted with ustaša-emigration...yeah,if croatian loby was stronger,why was Vukovar destroyed completely?What about Škabrnja,Kijevo,Vinkovci,Pakrac?7:35 that chess board exist more than 500 years,so it is logic that chess board is a symbol of independet Croatia
1:05 Germany wanted to colonize the Balkan? You must be joking...2:45 Aleksandar was a dictator,who terorrized Croats and Slovenes,he deserve death,3:00,yes, ustaše were terrible,but demography said that ustaše,Germans and Italians together killed about 217000 serbian civilians(demography doesn't lie),and of course ustaše said they killed million Serbs,they boast themselves...5:23 that map is also almost indetical to map of medieval Croatian Kingdom so?
ONLY IN ''JASENOVAC'' KONCENTRATION-CAMP CROATIAN USTASHE HAS KILLED AROUND 700.000 SERBS!!!USTASHE HAD SPECIAL CONCENTRATION-CAMP SPECIALIZED FOR SERBIAN KIDS,CALLED ''JADOVNO''....AND MANNY MORE SUCH TERIBBLE PLACES AROUN CROATIA!!!AND IN BOSNIA WASN'T ANNY BETTER FOR SERBS!!!
Eto jadni srbi su napadnuti u domovinskom ratu od ekstremni fasista.Sram vas bilo kakav dokumentaraac snimite,ako se moze zvat dokumentarcom.Cista CETNICKA PROPAGANDA.zato i jeste sa di jeste.SRBIJA KO NOKIA A BILA JE DO TOKIA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Eto jadni srbi su napadnuti u domovinskom ratu od ekstremni fasista.Sram vas bilo kakav dokumentaraac snimite,ako se moze zvat dokumentarcom.Cista CETNICKA PROPAGANDA.zato i jeste sa di jeste.SRBIJA KO NOKIA A BILA JE DO TOKIA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
znate šta...dosta mi je svega...i vašeg prepucavanja i rata i fašizma i ustaštva i četništva..... Zar nije više vrijeme da svijet ugleda da nema smisla u ratu... ne podržavam ustaše, fašiste niti četnike.... što je bilo, bilo je, ne smijemo zaboraviti što se dogodilo, ali najgore je što se sve to nastavlja.... Zašto Hrvat i Srbin ne bi mogli biti opet prijatelji, bez ideja o velikoj Srbiji ili NDH....... gadi mi se sva politika i ljudi koji nevide dobro u svijetu nego samo loše... zaista žalosno
What a load of bullshit?!!!! People who prepared this sort of fantasies must think that the entire world is very, very stupid. In actual fact they only proved the stupidity of the Serbian megalomanic propaganda machine!!!! I watched it as a good joke. Doesn't the fact that the "Yugoslav People's Army" was killing all non Serb people to save the Serboslavia, tell you anything?!!! Nevertheless it is so pleasing to see you cry for the loss of your former occupied teritories. No more Adriatic sea
@BiHVeteran95 No, There was a deal signed meaning that Yugoslavia would be divided on ethnic lines rather then tito's lines (the Lisbon Treaty), But you broke that deal, not the serbs, that was the cause of the war. If the 25% or so of BIH that was Bosnian Muslim had claimed independence without taking the huge Serbian and Croat Population with them, then there would have been no war, its as simple as that
serbia has always has been given a bad name due to the american media and thats what we get for fighting against anyone that tried to invade it took america to take kosovo and give it to the muslim bosnians aka turks and also blaming us for a war where we tried to keep a solid yugoslavia together but some croats that didnt want to live among serbs anymore in yugoslavia by force they got what they deserved the croats asking for a war that they couldnt win by themselves
I don't know as much about the Balkans as I'd like to, but I do know a lot about Palestine. In part two, when this "documentary" intimated that the Bosniaks are descended from Ottoman Turks, I raised an eyebrow, because I've heard credible refutations of that canard. Here in part three, I find the director has Grand Mufti Hajj Amin al-Hussayni in Sarajevo supervising the genocide of Serbs. Now I'm confident this film is propagandistic bullshit. Get over the hatred you've dedicated your life to.
Croats joined nazis just becouse it was the only way to have their own independent state . Fact : Croats had nazis ustase and the serbs had nazis cethniks which nobody mentions ... Fact : There were more croats in Partisans ( communists ) then serbs .
@garioldwin r u fucking joking...CHETNIKS-nazis??????????..r u fucking imbecil???..YES U R DUMB FUCK..look what US veterans think about Chetniks..who was No1 Hitlers Headache in New York Magazine..motherfucker..the only ppl who resisted the nazis were chetniks-the Yugoslav National Army..so fuck off!!!YEAH..TRUTH PAINS NEOFASHIST SCUM..lmao..there is actualy no worse ppl than Croats,Bosnian Muslims,and Albanians pricks..greed for land they don't deserve..justice will come sooner or later!!!
@suchmachine actualy the only real enemies to chetniks were the croats . chetniks did saved some US pilots but were also seen to cooperating with germans by american spies . they were the nazies who fought for great serbia with just serbs in their country and were no better then ustase .
@garioldwin LMAO..u just keep saying nonsences and talking about smthn u don't fucking know..ffs..CHETNIKS were Yugoslavian King's Army..TITO was revolutionist for comunism and he needed propaganda as such u repeating today for establishing party instead of King..Chetniks never colaborated with nazis,they just once accepted the garnison of ITALIAN soldiers who fought with ustashes since they attacked them in Dalmacia..partisans colaborated with both saying their only enemy are Chetniks..SO FOFF!
@suchmachine that just isnt thrue , chetniks didnt mind if they were with brits , americans , germans or italians long as they are fighting with croats .
@garioldwin ..nonsences..there was a lot of croats in chetniks,a muslims too..so don't fucking bring idiotic statements on something u just don't fucking know..i see that there is a problem for u to realise things if something is not black/white..just search for Crna Trojka ( Black Three ) and u will see that General Draza personaly shot every single triator during WW2 colaborating with nazis..and btw croats in 99% colaborated with NAZI to whipe out serbs..what was than Jasenovac for..ffs...
@garioldwin ..they were chearing on streets embracing SS...so what is ur fucking conclusion..that Chetniks were the enemies..that serbs are the enemies???..R U THAT STUPID???..Nazis had entire SS division from muslims,beside ustashes,the SS Skenderbeg...SO WHO FUCKING WANTED TO WHIPE OUT WHO..do u have at least IQ to see that in one side u have croats-ustashe,muslims-ss skenderbeg,under NAZI flags..and on other side serbs,and very few others-CHETNIKS as a resistance fighters against SS..
@garioldwin ..force that 1 brain cell u have,and think now who was a agressor and who was the deffender..who wanted new NAZI countrys,and who wanted to save country that allready existed and created from blood spilled over centuries by our ancients,and every time sold out by triators..do u see who is triator now..mofo..and regarding partisans and TITO..they were comunists,they wanted to shutdown EXISTING kingdom and the king..and they colaborated with everyone in that way..
@garioldwin ..that was their ultimate goal,and that's what most of muslims and croats accepted as a oportunity to save their asses from punisment of betreyal with colaborating,slaughtering,and numerous actrocities they commited under nazi flag..that's why they joined massivly to partisans-to disstinguish serbian resistance rolle in every war..TITO won only coz west supported him..later,even Churchil addmited in his memoars THAT WAS BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER..SO PLS..DON'T COMMENT ANYMORE..FUCK OFF!!!
@garioldwin at the end just one correction..or add,coz correction isn't needed..SS Skenderbeg were Albanians,mostly islamic ones..and bigger and more retarded division of muslims,were Bosnian muslims in division which is called SS Handzar..just to mention that so there is no confusion..however,the point i made stands rock solid and u just can't take it down,no matter how much idiotic comments u post and no matter u say..FACTS ARE FACTS..propaganda and lies have short life..sooner or later dies!
@95moja (Tvoja malo sutra) Listen my little ustashe, it's seem you didn't get the point so let's try to make it more simple for you ... World War 2:
Albanians - SS Skenderbeg NAZI
Bosnian muslims - SS Handzar NAZI
Croatian - Ustashe NAZI
Today, and in the 90', all of this Nazi bullshit revived again but not with the support of Hitler and Vatican but by the whole international community and Vatican satanist.
Croats joined nazis just becouse it was the only way to have their own independent state . Fact : Croats had nazis ustase and the serbs had nazis cethniks which nobody mentions ... Fact : There were more croats in Partisans ( communists ) then serbs .
I think Death of Yugoslavia is a better documentary than this one. This does have some interesting interviews with many high-level westerners but it glosses over the initial problems that developed between Slovenia and Serbia and why Slovenia and Croatia walked out of the February 1991 Yugoslav Congress of 4000 members. Serbia had been trying to shut down Mladin and Slovenia objected.
kakvo crnjenje hrvata, ovo je sve istina, ono sto su Srbi uradili vama nije ni 2% zla od onog zla koje ste vi Hrvati uradili njima u drugom svetskom ratu, vi njih pobili milion a oni vas nekih 80 000, po meni (Makedoncu) vi hrvati ste veci zlocinci
Govorim o tome ciji narod je vise zla ucinio, a to su sigurno hrvati, brojke sve govore, vise Srba je poginulo od ruke Hrvata, nego sto su Hrvati izginuli od ruke Srba. A drugo ne brini se ti za Makedoniju mi smo svoju zemlju sacuvali, i bili smo ovde dok ste i vi hrvati i srbi, bili tamo negde u zabitima Rusije, mi Makedonci smo osvojili pola sveta
@03nj zvanična brojka u Jasenovcu,je manja od 100.000,sve drugo je mit i pokušaj da se što veća ratna odšteta zaračuna Njemačkoj.A samo na križnom putu od austrijskog Bleiburga pa do Vojvodine pobijeno je 300.000 ljudi.Zato i spominjem onih 1500 jama u HR i SLO.
A ovu glupost kako ste vi bili tu dok smo mi bili u Rusiji bolje da nisi spominjao.Skoro sam pao na dupe od smijeha.
Zašto pričate slavenskim jezikom?Zar taj makedonski ne bi trebao sličiti grčkom,a ne bugarskom?
Ma necu vise da se raspravljam i vi i Srbi ste divljaci, samo znate da se ubijate, dok ste vi ziveli u kolibama i sumama kao varvari i niste imali nikakvo pismo, mi Makedonci smo osvojili pola sveta, gradili hramove i gradove. A to sto danas pricamo Slovenskim jezikom je nazalost sto smo se izmesali sa vama, bugarima i turcima nazalost.
@Prophettessa it's true, George Bogdanić is a Serb and a known serb-activist, his view on this is NOT neutral and this is a strong serbian propaganda that shows our Croats as nationalists and criminals.... you can't demand these facts
That's doesn't makes the F***** war any different right?And let's be honest-this war was idea of all of you:Serbians,CROATIANS,Bosnian Muslims and Slovenians.JNA wasn't attacking Croatia,the army was just trying to protect SFRJ and it's constitution.And yes you are both same CROATS-SERBS (like it or not)full with nationalism and hate and I personally know far more ultra nationalistic Croats then Serbs.
It is sad that people are missing the point of this documentary. It is the most fair and extensive expose of the situation I have seen. I have no side in this debate - my side is JUSTICE.
There was no justice for the Serbs, who were made the scapegoats in the most foul and inhumane way for crimes committed by all involved.
Like many today they have the greater claim to land that the parasitical and rabid muslims rampage and urinated over to claim as their own.
@Prophettessa STOP TALKING! You War Mongerer! How are we parasites? Of course it's all serbian land, even though we've lived there just as long, it doesnt matter though because its all serbian land. I hear Serbs have a claim to Somalia too. The genocide was against Bosnjaks and yet we're evil because we broke away because we didnt want to be oppressed in by the Serbs in Greater Serbia.
You have no side? Your side is justice? Thats an oxymoron, you moron.
@Prophettessa You say that you don't have no side in this "debate" but your comment speaks very different. The only SAD thing here is that this documentary is not based on real facts and all sides KNOW that. It's based on some old-west-shitty people's opinion who don't give a damn about ex-YU and they had no clue what was going on. Balkans had enough propaganda during the 90s and now this oldschool-brainwashed bullshit. And what is funny, some "foreign" guy would believe in such things. lol
@Prophettessa yes hear hear - finally some sense - I agree with your sentiment whole heartedly and it is the position my father held at the time - this is just a part of the great game, played by those in power - enough is enough, and now it really really is - everything we are told is a lie - everything! cheers ;) although you have to accept the crusades fanatacised/radicalised islam, it is alongside israel, the chief cause of their understandable bitterness... but cheers anyhooooo ;)
yet, they killed more people and innocent civilians than anyone else, sooo... ??? i dont get your point. especially if you look at milosevic and his amazingly clever power strategies which essentially ended yugoslavia as he was really the one who "legalized" nationalism and "legally" ended brotherhood and unity. Milosevic bullied his way into power over Serbia through an illegal coup, and then managed to control yugoslavia when he was not even elected in serbia, well alone yugoslavia.
Isusa Krista i have never herd such bullshit in my life... how many serbs died in serbia? NONE the war was in Croatia! AGAINST CROATIAN INDEPENDENCE, this is complete bullshit we were under attcak, defending our homeland, and no shit croatia for croats? why do you think countries exist? everyone has a national identity their own people! IDIOTS who speak on this documentary!
THIS ALL TURTH...Serbia is not attacked simply because people in Serbia didnt have a wish to extremanate Croats in our own territory, and we didnt bring a Greeks,Russians,Romanians and others to kill Croats in Serbia, its Croats who brought Germans,Austrians and Englishman to kill Serbs in Krajina!
@hellotherejklmnop PLEASE TAKE IT EASY!!!THIS ALL,IN VIDEO CLIP IS TRUTH,I KNOW,I WAS THERE!!! SECOND WHAT'S HEPPENED WITH 500.000 SERBS WICH HAD LIVED IN CROATIA??250.000 SERBS FROM BOSNIA?AND AROUND 250.000 FROM KOSOVO?THEY HAD ETHNICALLY CLEANSED!!AND NOW IN SERBIA,AFTER SO MANNY WARS IN EX REPUBLIC'S OF YU,STILL LIVE CROATS,MUSLIMS,ALBANIANS,TELL ME HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?IF THE SERBS ARE REALLY GUILTY FOR THE WAR,WHY THEY DIDN'T FIRST ETHNICALLY CLEANED THE SERBIA?YOU COMMENT IS STUPID!
@hellotherejklmnop well.... united states/united kingdom are unions made of individual states/countries - spain has a very tenuous existance - really it is 3/4 countries - germany recent union of many ancient kingdoms and well russia etc etc yuogslavia is a union of slavic countries which the people wanted post world war1 - your fight for independance is illegal, it is a military coop, it is usurping yugoslavia - I believe it is wrong and this was orchestrated by the powers the be -not thepeople
how many serbs died at Jasenovac? that was the first time there was a declared independsnt state of Croatia and no i do not see the serbs as innocents but i see that the point this documentary is making is that in countries with an ethnic split one ethnicity cannot just proclaim themself a country and think that will be that, you are criminally oversimplifying things,
excuse me but.. Jugoslavia could of NEVER existed, there are separate people, nations and cultures within it, and once one claims dominance (Serbia, in this case) over the rest of course everybody will react! you cannot say we are all the same!!!! WE WERE ALL SUPPRESSED UNDER SERBIAN RULE!
The point of the documentary is that this war was encouraged by the western powers, just like other wars after it. I think that the yugoslavia war was an experiment, and then used in irak, libya, kosovo etc: helping with guns and money one side, making the villain of the other and then using their guns to inforce "peace".
stelistu83 3 months ago
ohh this video is also extremely incorrect about the attitudes of the majority of bosnians and croats during WWII and afterwards. verry verry few supported the nazis or ustase! tito himself was a full croat! and today most croats and bosnians supported tito and yugoslavia! no one wanted it to end except for nationalists in all countries who numbered only in the few until nationalists successfully brainwashed their people on all sides!
BijiApoCheHugoChavez 4 months ago
O pa da!!Sad je to propaganda kad je OBRNUTO!!!A ono nije propaganda koja je 20 g sataniz. Srbe i čuli i slušali ste ono koje je Vašim ušima odgavaralo!!!!hallooo!!!Lepo vam opisuje SVE kako je počelo u tom dokument!!!Iste slike je i HTV prikazivala kao npr. onu U Splitu koji je onaj(posle budući komand hrv.vojske u Bosni....)tip koji je davio vojnika u transporteru samo su bile NARAVNO druge reči!!Hrvati danas propagarišu kako su oni SAD jadni..Neka pogledaju svoju Bednu istoriju!!!
dusanovocarstvo 8 months ago in playlist Rat koji se mogao izbjeci
germany is such a major agitater..what is their issue....seriously?
allanro28 8 months ago
oh,and at 8:35 it's excessively,yes,Serbs were loosing jobs,but after the war they got compensation,they got everything what they would earn in that time+interest(that's really fair,isn't it'?),homes of Serbs weren't destroyed in this towns(only 1 granate in Borovo Selo),othervise I would know that...
Nikolajevic99 8 months ago
Well, this documentary was portraiting serbs as peaceful nation with everybody's best interest in mind. Big bull....
marinm777 8 months ago
No side in that war was bad, they all suffered equally.
giulianoisthebestyep 9 months ago
@giulianoisthebestyep Who told you such a lie?
bijou201 9 months ago
@bijou201 Well, when you take into consideration the amount of Krajina Serbs who were killed and displaced from Croatia, I think it's safe to say that everyone (Croats and Bosnians included) suffered.
giulianoisthebestyep 8 months ago
@giulianoisthebestyep Would you please take into consideration the amount of Croats(children also) who were killed/massacred in Vukovar, Borovo Selo, Škabrnja, Ovčara, Petrinja, Dalj, Baćina etc. and amount of Bosnians in Srebrenica (genocide), Sarajevo etc. Only in Bosnia 2 mil people were refugees. It's important to know who attacked who, who was aggressor and the wars weren't in Serbia. Croatia and Bosnia were devastated, economy and infrastructure destroyed. You can't say EQUALLY.
bijou201 8 months ago
5:40 in ex Yugoslavia nationalism was also when you were singing "ustani Bane, Hrvatska te zove"(that song is patriotic,not nationalistic),Tuđman wasn't xenophobic,he just said few silliness,so what?There is also no evidence that he was concted with ustaša-emigration...yeah,if croatian loby was stronger,why was Vukovar destroyed completely?What about Škabrnja,Kijevo,Vinkovci,Pakrac?7:35 that chess board exist more than 500 years,so it is logic that chess board is a symbol of independet Croatia
Nikolajevic99 9 months ago
1:05 Germany wanted to colonize the Balkan? You must be joking...2:45 Aleksandar was a dictator,who terorrized Croats and Slovenes,he deserve death,3:00,yes, ustaše were terrible,but demography said that ustaše,Germans and Italians together killed about 217000 serbian civilians(demography doesn't lie),and of course ustaše said they killed million Serbs,they boast themselves...5:23 that map is also almost indetical to map of medieval Croatian Kingdom so?
Nikolajevic99 9 months ago
Wait, does this documentary really imply that in a democratic country the will of an army should prevail over the will of the people? ROFL!
volodask 9 months ago
ONLY IN ''JASENOVAC'' KONCENTRATION-CAMP CROATIAN USTASHE HAS KILLED AROUND 700.000 SERBS!!!USTASHE HAD SPECIAL CONCENTRATION-CAMP SPECIALIZED FOR SERBIAN KIDS,CALLED ''JADOVNO''....AND MANNY MORE SUCH TERIBBLE PLACES AROUN CROATIA!!!AND IN BOSNIA WASN'T ANNY BETTER FOR SERBS!!!
MrDex369 9 months ago
Eto jadni srbi su napadnuti u domovinskom ratu od ekstremni fasista.Sram vas bilo kakav dokumentaraac snimite,ako se moze zvat dokumentarcom.Cista CETNICKA PROPAGANDA.zato i jeste sa di jeste.SRBIJA KO NOKIA A BILA JE DO TOKIA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kekezinjo 11 months ago 2
Eto jadni srbi su napadnuti u domovinskom ratu od ekstremni fasista.Sram vas bilo kakav dokumentaraac snimite,ako se moze zvat dokumentarcom.Cista CETNICKA PROPAGANDA.zato i jeste sa di jeste.SRBIJA KO NOKIA A BILA JE DO TOKIA HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kekezinjo 11 months ago
750 000? Koji još kreten može pušiti takve brojke?
Rusvi1 11 months ago
bullshit!!!
TheLegionar88 11 months ago
Nadam se da je ova baba koja jede govna,crknula i da je sada u paklu....
andrejcro1989 1 year ago 2
znate šta...dosta mi je svega...i vašeg prepucavanja i rata i fašizma i ustaštva i četništva..... Zar nije više vrijeme da svijet ugleda da nema smisla u ratu... ne podržavam ustaše, fašiste niti četnike.... što je bilo, bilo je, ne smijemo zaboraviti što se dogodilo, ali najgore je što se sve to nastavlja.... Zašto Hrvat i Srbin ne bi mogli biti opet prijatelji, bez ideja o velikoj Srbiji ili NDH....... gadi mi se sva politika i ljudi koji nevide dobro u svijetu nego samo loše... zaista žalosno
MrReefer14 1 year ago
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SwingBeatnik 1 year ago
What a load of bullshit?!!!! People who prepared this sort of fantasies must think that the entire world is very, very stupid. In actual fact they only proved the stupidity of the Serbian megalomanic propaganda machine!!!! I watched it as a good joke. Doesn't the fact that the "Yugoslav People's Army" was killing all non Serb people to save the Serboslavia, tell you anything?!!! Nevertheless it is so pleasing to see you cry for the loss of your former occupied teritories. No more Adriatic sea
seimour17 1 year ago
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Olusism 1 year ago
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This viedo is not a documentary based on real facts but human stupidity called politics ment to spread hatred between nations nothing more.
Modafaks 1 year ago
Slovenians Bosnians Croations wanted a peaceful break up for independence but NO serbia had to create hell for these countrys
BiHVeteran95 1 year ago
@BiHVeteran95 No, There was a deal signed meaning that Yugoslavia would be divided on ethnic lines rather then tito's lines (the Lisbon Treaty), But you broke that deal, not the serbs, that was the cause of the war. If the 25% or so of BIH that was Bosnian Muslim had claimed independence without taking the huge Serbian and Croat Population with them, then there would have been no war, its as simple as that
Piewayman 1 year ago
Movie's director is George Bogdanich. Google it and everything will become much clearer,
Frckavi 1 year ago
serbia has always has been given a bad name due to the american media and thats what we get for fighting against anyone that tried to invade it took america to take kosovo and give it to the muslim bosnians aka turks and also blaming us for a war where we tried to keep a solid yugoslavia together but some croats that didnt want to live among serbs anymore in yugoslavia by force they got what they deserved the croats asking for a war that they couldnt win by themselves
rokcod721 1 year ago
I don't know as much about the Balkans as I'd like to, but I do know a lot about Palestine. In part two, when this "documentary" intimated that the Bosniaks are descended from Ottoman Turks, I raised an eyebrow, because I've heard credible refutations of that canard. Here in part three, I find the director has Grand Mufti Hajj Amin al-Hussayni in Sarajevo supervising the genocide of Serbs. Now I'm confident this film is propagandistic bullshit. Get over the hatred you've dedicated your life to.
BostonFenian 1 year ago
Crotia during WWII. A shameful period. Will not cast a vote based on that.
Snatchpeeper01 1 year ago
Croats joined nazis just becouse it was the only way to have their own independent state . Fact : Croats had nazis ustase and the serbs had nazis cethniks which nobody mentions ... Fact : There were more croats in Partisans ( communists ) then serbs .
garioldwin 1 year ago
@garioldwin r u fucking joking...CHETNIKS-nazis??????????..r u fucking imbecil???..YES U R DUMB FUCK..look what US veterans think about Chetniks..who was No1 Hitlers Headache in New York Magazine..motherfucker..the only ppl who resisted the nazis were chetniks-the Yugoslav National Army..so fuck off!!!YEAH..TRUTH PAINS NEOFASHIST SCUM..lmao..there is actualy no worse ppl than Croats,Bosnian Muslims,and Albanians pricks..greed for land they don't deserve..justice will come sooner or later!!!
suchmachine 1 year ago
@suchmachine actualy the only real enemies to chetniks were the croats . chetniks did saved some US pilots but were also seen to cooperating with germans by american spies . they were the nazies who fought for great serbia with just serbs in their country and were no better then ustase .
garioldwin 1 year ago
@garioldwin LMAO..u just keep saying nonsences and talking about smthn u don't fucking know..ffs..CHETNIKS were Yugoslavian King's Army..TITO was revolutionist for comunism and he needed propaganda as such u repeating today for establishing party instead of King..Chetniks never colaborated with nazis,they just once accepted the garnison of ITALIAN soldiers who fought with ustashes since they attacked them in Dalmacia..partisans colaborated with both saying their only enemy are Chetniks..SO FOFF!
suchmachine 1 year ago
@suchmachine that just isnt thrue , chetniks didnt mind if they were with brits , americans , germans or italians long as they are fighting with croats .
garioldwin 1 year ago
@garioldwin ..nonsences..there was a lot of croats in chetniks,a muslims too..so don't fucking bring idiotic statements on something u just don't fucking know..i see that there is a problem for u to realise things if something is not black/white..just search for Crna Trojka ( Black Three ) and u will see that General Draza personaly shot every single triator during WW2 colaborating with nazis..and btw croats in 99% colaborated with NAZI to whipe out serbs..what was than Jasenovac for..ffs...
suchmachine 1 year ago
@garioldwin ..they were chearing on streets embracing SS...so what is ur fucking conclusion..that Chetniks were the enemies..that serbs are the enemies???..R U THAT STUPID???..Nazis had entire SS division from muslims,beside ustashes,the SS Skenderbeg...SO WHO FUCKING WANTED TO WHIPE OUT WHO..do u have at least IQ to see that in one side u have croats-ustashe,muslims-ss skenderbeg,under NAZI flags..and on other side serbs,and very few others-CHETNIKS as a resistance fighters against SS..
suchmachine 1 year ago
@garioldwin ..force that 1 brain cell u have,and think now who was a agressor and who was the deffender..who wanted new NAZI countrys,and who wanted to save country that allready existed and created from blood spilled over centuries by our ancients,and every time sold out by triators..do u see who is triator now..mofo..and regarding partisans and TITO..they were comunists,they wanted to shutdown EXISTING kingdom and the king..and they colaborated with everyone in that way..
suchmachine 1 year ago
@garioldwin ..that was their ultimate goal,and that's what most of muslims and croats accepted as a oportunity to save their asses from punisment of betreyal with colaborating,slaughtering,and numerous actrocities they commited under nazi flag..that's why they joined massivly to partisans-to disstinguish serbian resistance rolle in every war..TITO won only coz west supported him..later,even Churchil addmited in his memoars THAT WAS BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER..SO PLS..DON'T COMMENT ANYMORE..FUCK OFF!!!
suchmachine 1 year ago
@garioldwin at the end just one correction..or add,coz correction isn't needed..SS Skenderbeg were Albanians,mostly islamic ones..and bigger and more retarded division of muslims,were Bosnian muslims in division which is called SS Handzar..just to mention that so there is no confusion..however,the point i made stands rock solid and u just can't take it down,no matter how much idiotic comments u post and no matter u say..FACTS ARE FACTS..propaganda and lies have short life..sooner or later dies!
suchmachine 1 year ago
@suchmachine you are just a vile mouthed ignorant bombastic person who doesn't deserve to be heard
95moja 1 year ago
@95moja (Tvoja malo sutra) Listen my little ustashe, it's seem you didn't get the point so let's try to make it more simple for you ... World War 2:
Albanians - SS Skenderbeg NAZI
Bosnian muslims - SS Handzar NAZI
Croatian - Ustashe NAZI
Today, and in the 90', all of this Nazi bullshit revived again but not with the support of Hitler and Vatican but by the whole international community and Vatican satanist.
Danmagorez 1 year ago
Croats joined nazis just becouse it was the only way to have their own independent state . Fact : Croats had nazis ustase and the serbs had nazis cethniks which nobody mentions ... Fact : There were more croats in Partisans ( communists ) then serbs .
garioldwin 1 year ago
I think Death of Yugoslavia is a better documentary than this one. This does have some interesting interviews with many high-level westerners but it glosses over the initial problems that developed between Slovenia and Serbia and why Slovenia and Croatia walked out of the February 1991 Yugoslav Congress of 4000 members. Serbia had been trying to shut down Mladin and Slovenia objected.
EdwardRommel 1 year ago
is this fucking joke ?? lol who did make this movie. People realy dont know what is patriotism.
numerocro 1 year ago
istina boli!
3rados 1 year ago
pička van materina ovo nije video o ratu nego crnjenje hrvata i iskrivljavanje istine
juuuznovoce 2 years ago 7
@juuuznovoce Ne.. ovo je delom istina.. koja kao takva moze samo Hrvate i da Crni. Takva je vasa prica, ko ti tu kriv. Kada zaseres, mora i da smrdi.
Izadji iz te caure gluposti u kojoj se nalazis. Ah da, zaborav.. ti si idiot.. ti neces da znas, nikad i neces znati. Koj kurac ti uopste pricam...
Budala sto trosi samo bezveze vasduh i resurse. Hrpa mesa, sto smeta. To si ti. Nista vise.
Danmagorez 1 year ago
@juuuznovoce znaci, ako glavas vec u septembru 1990 ih okolo pozira sa pistoljem, onda je to lazne crnjenje Hrvata?
Molim za malo objektivnost, svako je imo svoju ulogu u ovom ratu, a nitko nije cist, to je cinjenica
Mastakilla91 1 year ago
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@juuuznovoce znaci, ako glavas vec u septembru 1990 ih okolo pozira sa pistoljem, onda je to lazno crnjenje Hrvata?
Molim za malo objektivnost, svako je imo svoju ulogu u ovom ratu, a nitko nije cist, to je cinjenica
Mastakilla91 1 year ago
@juuuznovoce
kakvo crnjenje hrvata, ovo je sve istina, ono sto su Srbi uradili vama nije ni 2% zla od onog zla koje ste vi Hrvati uradili njima u drugom svetskom ratu, vi njih pobili milion a oni vas nekih 80 000, po meni (Makedoncu) vi hrvati ste veci zlocinci
03nj 1 year ago
@03nj majmune glupi,kakve ja veze imam sa 200.000 ustaša,rodio sam se trideset godina kasnije,pa kako mogu bit zločinac?
Pojma nemaš koliko je Hrvatai pobijeno nakon '45,imaš 600 masovnih grobnica po Sloveniji,i 900 po Hrvatskoj.
Mani se hrvatsko srpskih odnosa,bolje gledaj da sačuvaš ono malo svoje države.
superbijes 1 year ago
@superbijes
Govorim o tome ciji narod je vise zla ucinio, a to su sigurno hrvati, brojke sve govore, vise Srba je poginulo od ruke Hrvata, nego sto su Hrvati izginuli od ruke Srba. A drugo ne brini se ti za Makedoniju mi smo svoju zemlju sacuvali, i bili smo ovde dok ste i vi hrvati i srbi, bili tamo negde u zabitima Rusije, mi Makedonci smo osvojili pola sveta
03nj 1 year ago
@03nj zvanična brojka u Jasenovcu,je manja od 100.000,sve drugo je mit i pokušaj da se što veća ratna odšteta zaračuna Njemačkoj.A samo na križnom putu od austrijskog Bleiburga pa do Vojvodine pobijeno je 300.000 ljudi.Zato i spominjem onih 1500 jama u HR i SLO.
A ovu glupost kako ste vi bili tu dok smo mi bili u Rusiji bolje da nisi spominjao.Skoro sam pao na dupe od smijeha.
Zašto pričate slavenskim jezikom?Zar taj makedonski ne bi trebao sličiti grčkom,a ne bugarskom?
superbijes 1 year ago
@superbijes
Ma necu vise da se raspravljam i vi i Srbi ste divljaci, samo znate da se ubijate, dok ste vi ziveli u kolibama i sumama kao varvari i niste imali nikakvo pismo, mi Makedonci smo osvojili pola sveta, gradili hramove i gradove. A to sto danas pricamo Slovenskim jezikom je nazalost sto smo se izmesali sa vama, bugarima i turcima nazalost.
03nj 1 year ago
@03nj pa kako grci i dalje pričaju grčki,albanci albanski?Samo vi preuzeli slavenski jezik.
Nema ti neke logike u tom što pričaš.
Imaš slavenske korijene ko i mi,samo ste naselili područje drevne Makedonije i preuzeli ime.Zbog toga vas grci ne priznaju pod tim imenom.
superbijes 1 year ago
The director of this movie was serbian. Figures...
Truthseeker1412 2 years ago 11
The writer of the above comment is croatian. Figures....
Prophettessa 2 years ago 23
@Prophettessa You are full of shit
avnumber01 1 year ago
@Prophettessa it's true, George Bogdanić is a Serb and a known serb-activist, his view on this is NOT neutral and this is a strong serbian propaganda that shows our Croats as nationalists and criminals.... you can't demand these facts
MrReefer14 1 year ago
@Truthseeker1412
That's doesn't makes the F***** war any different right?And let's be honest-this war was idea of all of you:Serbians,CROATIANS,Bosnian Muslims and Slovenians.JNA wasn't attacking Croatia,the army was just trying to protect SFRJ and it's constitution.And yes you are both same CROATS-SERBS (like it or not)full with nationalism and hate and I personally know far more ultra nationalistic Croats then Serbs.
ThePukalo 1 year ago
It is sad that people are missing the point of this documentary. It is the most fair and extensive expose of the situation I have seen. I have no side in this debate - my side is JUSTICE.
There was no justice for the Serbs, who were made the scapegoats in the most foul and inhumane way for crimes committed by all involved.
Like many today they have the greater claim to land that the parasitical and rabid muslims rampage and urinated over to claim as their own.
ENOUGH - not in my name!
Prophettessa 2 years ago 6
@Prophettessa STOP TALKING! You War Mongerer! How are we parasites? Of course it's all serbian land, even though we've lived there just as long, it doesnt matter though because its all serbian land. I hear Serbs have a claim to Somalia too. The genocide was against Bosnjaks and yet we're evil because we broke away because we didnt want to be oppressed in by the Serbs in Greater Serbia.
You have no side? Your side is justice? Thats an oxymoron, you moron.
zmaj54 1 year ago
@Prophettessa You say that you don't have no side in this "debate" but your comment speaks very different. The only SAD thing here is that this documentary is not based on real facts and all sides KNOW that. It's based on some old-west-shitty people's opinion who don't give a damn about ex-YU and they had no clue what was going on. Balkans had enough propaganda during the 90s and now this oldschool-brainwashed bullshit. And what is funny, some "foreign" guy would believe in such things. lol
bijou201 9 months ago
@Prophettessa yes hear hear - finally some sense - I agree with your sentiment whole heartedly and it is the position my father held at the time - this is just a part of the great game, played by those in power - enough is enough, and now it really really is - everything we are told is a lie - everything! cheers ;) although you have to accept the crusades fanatacised/radicalised islam, it is alongside israel, the chief cause of their understandable bitterness... but cheers anyhooooo ;)
rugbyboy198127 5 months ago
yet, they killed more people and innocent civilians than anyone else, sooo... ??? i dont get your point. especially if you look at milosevic and his amazingly clever power strategies which essentially ended yugoslavia as he was really the one who "legalized" nationalism and "legally" ended brotherhood and unity. Milosevic bullied his way into power over Serbia through an illegal coup, and then managed to control yugoslavia when he was not even elected in serbia, well alone yugoslavia.
BijiApoCheHugoChavez 4 months ago
Isusa Krista i have never herd such bullshit in my life... how many serbs died in serbia? NONE the war was in Croatia! AGAINST CROATIAN INDEPENDENCE, this is complete bullshit we were under attcak, defending our homeland, and no shit croatia for croats? why do you think countries exist? everyone has a national identity their own people! IDIOTS who speak on this documentary!
hellotherejklmnop 2 years ago 12
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darkogav 2 years ago
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what about all the people who are 1/2 croat and 1/2 something else? do you cut them in 1/2 and throw out the other 1/2?
darkogav 2 years ago
THIS ALL TURTH...Serbia is not attacked simply because people in Serbia didnt have a wish to extremanate Croats in our own territory, and we didnt bring a Greeks,Russians,Romanians and others to kill Croats in Serbia, its Croats who brought Germans,Austrians and Englishman to kill Serbs in Krajina!
SERBIANGIRL19 2 years ago
@hellotherejklmnop PLEASE TAKE IT EASY!!!THIS ALL,IN VIDEO CLIP IS TRUTH,I KNOW,I WAS THERE!!! SECOND WHAT'S HEPPENED WITH 500.000 SERBS WICH HAD LIVED IN CROATIA??250.000 SERBS FROM BOSNIA?AND AROUND 250.000 FROM KOSOVO?THEY HAD ETHNICALLY CLEANSED!!AND NOW IN SERBIA,AFTER SO MANNY WARS IN EX REPUBLIC'S OF YU,STILL LIVE CROATS,MUSLIMS,ALBANIANS,TELL ME HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?IF THE SERBS ARE REALLY GUILTY FOR THE WAR,WHY THEY DIDN'T FIRST ETHNICALLY CLEANED THE SERBIA?YOU COMMENT IS STUPID!
MrDex369 9 months ago
@hellotherejklmnop well.... united states/united kingdom are unions made of individual states/countries - spain has a very tenuous existance - really it is 3/4 countries - germany recent union of many ancient kingdoms and well russia etc etc yuogslavia is a union of slavic countries which the people wanted post world war1 - your fight for independance is illegal, it is a military coop, it is usurping yugoslavia - I believe it is wrong and this was orchestrated by the powers the be -not thepeople
rugbyboy198127 5 months ago
@hellotherejklmnop
how many serbs died at Jasenovac? that was the first time there was a declared independsnt state of Croatia and no i do not see the serbs as innocents but i see that the point this documentary is making is that in countries with an ethnic split one ethnicity cannot just proclaim themself a country and think that will be that, you are criminally oversimplifying things,
47issa 5 months ago
excuse me but.. Jugoslavia could of NEVER existed, there are separate people, nations and cultures within it, and once one claims dominance (Serbia, in this case) over the rest of course everybody will react! you cannot say we are all the same!!!! WE WERE ALL SUPPRESSED UNDER SERBIAN RULE!
hellotherejklmnop 2 years ago